The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Wiz Khalifa To Discuss Kush + Orange Juice 2, Raising His Kids, Coachella, Mac Miller, Max B. Listen For More!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yep, it's the World No Dangerous Morning Show to Breakfast Club,
Charlamagne and God Laura La Rossa. Envy's on his book tours,
so he had to step out. Jesse Larius is home.
But we got a legend in the building. It's okay
to call you that.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Right, Yeah, I'm cool with that.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, with Khalifa's hip. What's happening to my brother? Seen
you in a minute, not in person.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I know it's been a while.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, yeah, you've been working out, COVID happened, been taking
care of my kids.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I'm amazing, Thank you? How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
You're still doing the MMA and all that?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Absolutely every day?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, you wake up and do it early in the morning.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I have like a routine, so I go to the
gym five days a week. I do martial arts as well,
so I'm like, uh lifting, martial arts, and I do
hot yoga three times a week. So I'll get up
at like six with my kids, take care of my
dogs and my kids. Then I eat breakfast, then I
(00:56):
go to the gym, probably around like nine ish, and
then you know, from nine to about one or two
in the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
That's my program time. And then after that I got
the rest of my.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Day program telling me what to smoke.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
No, no, no, program is like workout, got yeah yeah,
whatever the program is for today, that's what I do.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
So you work high stone smoking between all of that. Yeah, yeah, No.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I smoke on the way to the gym and then
on my way to the next event. Yeah, yeah, for sure,
I stay stone.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
How long have you been smoking now.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I've been high for longer than I've been not high. Okay,
yeah consecutively.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, yeah, you be doing the shrooms?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
No, I quit doing shrooms.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I did it for a minute, so I don't really
need I feel like I need to keep doing them
over and over.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I'm glad you said need right because I was going
to ask, what is your intention when you smoke weed? Nowadays?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I just love being stoned. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I like the way it makes me feel. I like
the decisions that I make when I'm stoned. I like
the way movies look when I'm stoned. I like playing
with my kids when I'm sting. I just love being high.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah. Off marijuana though, just marijuana, not anything crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
The Cushion Orange Juice, Range Juice too. Yeah, great project.
I love I love the first time second apid though
th tough it. I really love the first asp thank you.
But it got like a nineteen ninety now G funk
sound for sure. Was that intentional?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah? Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I think that was like the original sound of Cushion
Orange Juice For a lot of people, it was like
nostalgic for the nineties or G funk or you know,
just riding around in.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
The car going to house parties getting fresh.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
It just got that whole you know, player vibe to
it and a little bit of funk to it as
well as just like the way the beats slap and
the way that the base is there. So a lot
of the productions Cardo and Sledgron and E Dan and
just the original people who you know, put that sound together.
So it was really easy to just bring it back. Yeah,
I'm glad you like it. Slaps thank you.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
You had announced in twenty twenty four that this project
was done and now it's here.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
The release of.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
It, so is it traditional release to streaming or like
how you're going to do because Cushion Orange just one
it was like you do did your own thing. You dropped,
you kind of changed the way people were listening to
music mixes at the time.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Right now, this one's going to streaming.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
We're releasing it through BMG, and uh, they've been really
really cool at letting me kind of just curate the
vibe and what the feeling of it is, and they
understand what the project is.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And we've had meetings, you know, weekly just.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
How we're going to attack it and you know, make
it last and making something real. So I've just been
really excited about updating, you know, the format. I think
that's what's most important, especially for like being an OG
in the game, is you know, releasing things with the
times how they are now, but also still being innovative
as well. And that's why you see, like in between
(03:48):
I've been dropping freestyles and doing a lot of stuff
like just entertaining my fans because I still have that freedom,
I'm able to do that as we get ready for
the album too, So just to put it all together
and make it current, I think that was the idea
for all of us.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
You know, yesterday was the fifteenth anniversary of Cushion Ars.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Yeah, yeah, I did hear that April fourteen, So you
did hear that, Yeah, album, I dropped so many albums
and stuff like that, like every month is an anniversary
of another project.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
But fifteen years, Yeah, that's tight.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
And I think we're really lucky to be able to well,
I'm grateful to be able to drop you know, the
sequel as close to as I did with the original one.
I feel like that's like a sign that just you know,
feels now it just worked out like that.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
It is divine alignment.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Like that.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Do you remember your mind state? April fourteenth, twenty ten.
I do, Okay, Yeah, what was it. I was just
getting off tour. I was in Miami.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I was working on rolling papers the album, but I
already had Cushion or Orange Juice done, and I had
been hyping it up for a lot of months before,
so my fans knew it was about to come out.
And I remember just going to the hotel room. I
was in a nice ass hotel on the beach, and
I was like, yeah, I'm about to drop it, and
I just released it from my computer that day. I
(05:12):
was really I was still am super confident, but I
was really really like super duper confident about the music
and just my connection with my fans, So that was
the time to do it.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Did it pissed the label off when you dropped in.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I really wasn't signed at that point. They were kind
of thinking about signing me, working on signing me. But
it didn't piss them off at all. They knew how
important it was for me to still curate that organic
thing because at that time I was doing a lot
more for myself than any label could do. And it's
still like that, Like I promote myself, I do my
social media, I do my merch, I do my marketing,
(05:47):
and I do all I just give you a whole
package and then you could just you know, you look
like a genius.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Well because changed everything though, that was like your that's
like your section eighty.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
That's so far gone that like beanded the tailor game. Yeah,
Like we were talking about it before you came in.
Like I remember the feeling when Cushion orangees came out,
and like I was a senior in high school and
like they would throw parties where you would literally come
to smoke and only listen to Cushion Orange jeps, and
like it was it was such a movement that it
was like really such a movement.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, yeah, that's what it was for. So it's good
that that happened.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It was all intentional and it was like, like you said,
that's like my you know, or my doggy style or
my illmatic Like I knew I had to make something
that was like that, and you know that was a
good one to be attached to. And yeah, it was
just I always tell people it's bigger than the music.
It's stuff like what you're saying, like, that's what makes
it what it is. Like even this album now, it's
(06:39):
amazing music wise, but you can't just sit there and
listen to it.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You gotta experience that shit.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
You gotta go to a beach, you gotta go on vacation,
you gotta kick it with the homies, you gotta hang
out super duper late. You got to hook up with
somebody who you've been you know, or you got to
meet somebody who you never even understood understood that with you.
That's what makes it what it is, and that's what
I'm excited for people to experience, as well as the
music being good.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
People don't realize that though. When you put out music,
music just provides the soundtrack to whatever you're experiencing in life. Yeah,
that's why you can never argue with certain people about
certain albums because the time of life they were experiencing
that album. Yeah, you can't like when somebody says, oh,
this is this is gonna remind you of whiz Kalif
for cushion Ards. Nah, right, I'm on something totally different
(07:24):
than I was than twenty ten exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
It's personal.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, I think people do have those personal moments or
those life decisions and what you're listening to at the
time definitely, you know dictates, you know what your memories
of that are, so it gets deep.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Do you think that because I saw that you have
like it's twenty two or twenty three songs on the project.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yeah, it's twenty two I.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Think so full Bonus records, four five Bonus record.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Bonus record.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
So normally with people who put that many songs on
in one place, it's like, you think people are gonna
listen to start to finish. But like I and me
listening to it, I don't have any doubt that people will.
Do you think that the conversation that you're having at
the beginning and then the conversation you haven't at the end,
is it cohesive? Or do you just throw songs on there,
like how do you kind of flowing out of well?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
With this project, the last maybe four songs we put
out before the album came out. We use this method
called the waterfall method, where you put songs out and
then add them.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
To the album later.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
And that was a conscious decision because I didn't know
what people were gonna want to hear. So those songs
helped me dictate what I was going to do with
the album. And I still like those songs, but they
weren't exactly what you were going to get from the
full album. So I used that as an opportunity to,
(08:43):
you know, do some promo and get the idea of
the album out there. But by the time you get
the actual real album, those eighteen songs are brand new.
Those are an experience that nobody has yet and that
everybody's going to get together. And that's where to me,
the more the conversation is is from the intro to
(09:04):
the eighteen song, and.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, it's pretty simple.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
It's the whole album is just about keeping it players motivational.
It's get stoned, and there's songs for the ladies and
their songs to ride around to. So as long as
I'm in that pocket. Yeah, the conversation is good in
my opinion. I know what my fans want and what
they expect, so I didn't go outside of that at all.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Why a sequel after all of these years, because that
could be hit of miss too.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah, I just again listening to the fans. Man, everybody
was telling me like how much they missed that sound
or that pocket of what I was doing at that time,
or how much they enjoyed it. So it's nothing for
me as an artist to like, you know, dig in
my bag and get with the producers that I trust
and really not recreate that but do what.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
That sounds like now.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
But it's the same feeling though, like you know what
I mean, and I'm not scared to do that. And
it's all about the fans. It's offered them and it's
what they want, you know. Like a lot of nostalgic
stuff is coming back. And my era, like you said,
is fifteen years ago, so it's way yeah, it's way
further removed than it is close. So why not just
go ahead and just revisit something that was you know,
(10:16):
big to us and that people appreciate the.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Problem with fans though they fickle and they don't want
you to grow. So you so you so even though
you've grown, like you're a father now, like your life
might be totally different than it was fifteen years ago,
They're like, no, I want twenty ten. Yeah, that's impossible.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I don't think it's impossible, really, yeah, because I think
they just want the best. Like I can experiment and
I can sing, and I can do country songs or
pop records, but they're like, yo, we like when you rap,
or I could wear you know, high fashion and you
know runway stuff, but they're like, we like when you
wear streetwear. And it's not hard for me to just
get right back into that. It's like, Okay, I'm trying
(10:52):
what I like and I'm still gonna do that in
my off time or if I get an opportunity to
do it, I'm gonna throw a suit on and I'm
gonna do a pop record, but it's not be my song.
It'll be somebody else's and I could still chart and
perform it all over the world.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
But for my fans, I'm gonna give them what they want.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
But you are Dad now Dada too, and making the
music and putting this project together like it does still
sound like whisky. For it's new and it's innovative, but
it's it's still the same feeling. How do you because
you are different, your dad is so different.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Now yeah, yeah, I think I'm just like a little
I mean, I just keep it one hundred like that's
what I always did. I always just talked about my life.
I talked about my day. I talk about my week.
So like I've never run out of bars.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
What's it like doing this whole run?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I so you got your coach, they don't go nowhere, Man,
I need some cisors.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I got.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Get some scissors.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
But it was you were and you did you stay?
You did a stage right here, you did perform.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I came I came out with with my Fia, and
I came out with Tie on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
And now though when you running around, you got to
make time to get back to family too.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
So how is that going to because you're about to
go on the tour.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
It's cool like with me because I feel like I
do a great balance of each So I've spun spun,
I've spent so much time at home and you know,
having my regular schedule, it's okay for me to step
away and do this for now, because this is what
I've been playing, this is what I've been working tours,
so you know, it's all part of the same process,
like it all goes together.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I feel like Coachella was quiet this year.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Now I wasn't quiet this year. It was it was
pretty rowdy.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I think they're trying to just take it back to
the essence of like what Coachella is about. So they
getting rid of like all the hype and all the
parties and stuff, and it's really about going to the
festival and a lot of people ain't down and like
you know, go in the desert and get dusty like that.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
How was the energy ill? Did you? Because I saw
people complaining that the crowd. Crowd was dead, not for
your not just for yoursel, but just in general.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
In my opinion, I think Coachella is all about like
the production and stuff like that. It's not really about
like seeing the crowd go crazy because they've been out
there all day, hot as hell, on drugs, sleeping in
tents and.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Stuff like that, so you can't really expect like too much.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
But I think it was I think it was really
like what Coachella is all about Yeah, I had a
good time.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
It was cool. I don't think it was dead.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
I saw you were you and Amy were dancing on
the side of stage.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
P Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Why are people so mad that you that's your girlfriend?
Why aren't mad that you dancing with your girl?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I don't think people were mad.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I think people just need clickbait, Like that's what the
world we live in these days. But I don't live
my life based off of that. I'm still gonna if
I'm hearing some music like I'm I'm.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
A dance But you never have like kind of leaned
into all of that stuff though, Like you've always kind
of like just even if it was happening, you did
your own thing, but we didn't know what Like people
the clickbait stuff. So like even when you were dating
and Baroles now with Amy, just people are really invested
in your life because you're such a big start and
now your kids are growing up and they're on social
media as well too.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
People just want to know things and they throw things
on Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I know I'm in control all of that though.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I give him enough to you know what I'm saying, Like,
like I said, I don't live my life based off
of it. Yeah, but I know that people are nosy,
like you haven't even seen my daughter and she's almost
a year old.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
So I can keep some stuff quiet.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
But this is the entertainment industry, so at the end
of the day, people are going to have their perception
of whatever whatever. But as long as my intentions are good,
I know I'm out here doing exactly what I'm supposed
to be doing, and nobody who really knows me and
loves me is ever going to be embarrassed by my
actions when I'm outside, So you can say whatever they
want to.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah, you won't be doing nothing, you literally really do.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
How do you talk to like a Sebastian's older getting
older now, which is crazy because it's just crazy to see.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Him get older.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
No, but it's literally.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Like when you think about when he was first born
to now and just being a fan and watching him grow,
there's probably so much things that you guys decide when
to talk to him about or not talk to him about.
But your celebrity, so it's different. How do you kind
of like what is your discretion on, Like here's what
I allow him to know or see or whatever, because
you can't guard kids from it everything.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, we just keep it one hundred with him too.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
He's a smart boy and these kids are we were
you know, grew up fast, but they're growing way faster
on the Internet and everything. So it's just about keeping
it real and you know, just allowing him to make
his own decisions as well. It's like I can tell
you what to do, but you know what's right and wrong,
and just instilling that in him. And also his friend
(15:23):
group too. That's a real big thing now, is his
friend group. But I feel like just him being a kid.
He's a normal kid. He goes through the same things
that normal kids go through. He gets in trouble at school.
We have to get on zoom calls with his teachers,
Like all of it's on a.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Zoom call with a teacher.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
How is it?
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Like, how did the teachers react. I mean they probably
used to celebrity parents.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
They'd be cool.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
They be chill, Like I think it helps him a
little bit more too, They're like, oh shit, we get
to see what here?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
You can pass this class?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
How is it being a father of a daughter, Now,
I got four daughters, got his daughter, so I know
daughters bring out a different energy.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah, man, it's it's super duper sweet. She's really young still,
she's only eight months, she'll be nine months, so her
personality hasn't come out yet.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
But it is a little bit different having a little girl.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
And I'm older now too, as apparently I was twenty
five when I had Bash. I'm thirty seven now, so
it's just like a whole different mind state, like having
a new child and it's a girl.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
It was crazy to watch y'all all get older.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Not kids get older.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I'm because you know what it is. And I don't
know if it's because of the Internet. I don't think
we've had another movement like that when I think about
the you and Nick Kendricks and.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, I feel like twenty sixteen, like Uzzi and Cardy
and them, they.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Had a movement.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
But I will say it's because I know what you
talking about with Uzzi, especially because I'm from Delaware, from Philly.
But it was it's still just different, like I can't
really describe it, Like the way that the whole tailor
gang and like how we were dressing.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
It was really different.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
But the kids are doing that tozi them now.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah. Yeah, we were the blog era.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, and I would say, like the SoundCloud air like
trippy red and all of them like SoundCloud, and then
now it's more like the TikTok like the viral.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, and then streamers as well, like you know, so, yeah,
we've had some good errors.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Man, I guess we don't know when the temperature changes
now because back in the day you could you can
see it on TV, you could hear it on radio.
Now in that kind of makes everything seem like it's
all yeah together, You don't you don't really see when
it's weird season or season. Nah.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
See, I don't mean to keep disagreeing with you. I
think you just got to be tapped in. But that's
how it was back then too, Like you had to
be tapped in and know who the new up and
coming blog era rappers were, and then the older dudes
didn't really understand.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
They're like, man, these dudes got on.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Tight pants and book bags like that ain't rap music,
so we look weird to them. It's just always the
next generation looks weird to the other general, so you
really don't like see them on their way up.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
You really don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Your pants, crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Brow, your.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Essentially right now.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Back then those pants were tight h and them and
like American apparel getting like really tight hats.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
You had the people going and doing it.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I remember with the.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
US yeahs on like I'm shocked you had kids.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
How tight they were?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Type of those pants were tight?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Bro, How often do you revisit the first Christian?
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I say, I'm a lie before I answer a question.
I gotta stop doing that. You think that's smart, You're right.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I can't give it away though. Now. I listened to
it a lot because we perform it a lot.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, there's a lot of like festivals and places where
they're like, can you come through and perform the whole
catalog or give us three songs off of there or
something like that. So I listened to it, and I
listened to it for inspiration too. Sometimes I like, I
sampled a couple of songs on this new one from
the old one. I like threw it in there you
wouldn't even know, but just to like keep the DNA.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
There, Yeah, can you get can you tell me so
I can go?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
You figure it out? Then I got to do it
again exactly and again and again because.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
It feels literally I said that ear it feels like
the original cushion orangees even though it's new music.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
But and a lot of artists can't do that, not
this far apart. H.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
It's not it's not obvious stuff. It's nothing that you
would be like, oh, this is that. But if somebody
told you, you'd be like duh.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
But what is it that you do that?
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Is it the beat or the melody? Like what is
it that you hid in?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
There's so many ways to manipulate music these days.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, we just we just really, like I said, we
updated it, like we use new formulas for the same
thing that we already have. Like and then my producers,
uh Cardo, it sound never went out of style. And
even with him producing with like Cardi and all of that,
he still has his original drum kits and stuff like that.
So he's just getting right back in his bag. Sledgering.
(20:03):
I work with Mike and Keys and Problem and DJ
Quick and just like throwing a lot of ideas around
to make something.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
That you know, like you said, remind you of the original.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
How much is LA an influence?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I would say.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
The La, like the lifestyle of LA is an influence.
I love LA, but I'm not from La. So I
didn't grow up like wanting to be a West Coast dude,
Like that's just how I.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Am, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
And being from Pittsburgh, we would probably resonate the most
with some place like LA or the Bay or even
like Detroit, Chicago, like we have a lot in common
with them too, But I wouldn't necessarily say like I'm
LA influenced, but I'm definitely embraced in LA like a mom,
just because of the similarities like in the production and
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the way that we talk and the way that we dress.
Like a lot of people associated me with being a
West Coast artist.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, and then the Snoop affiliation as well.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah, the Snoop affiliation too, But that wasn't even just
like I wasn't like, yo, I need to be best
friends with Snoop Dogg. He heard my music and was like, man,
this dude's tight. He embraced me, you know what I mean.
Like so that was like that, I'm grateful as heck
for that, Like you know what I mean, Like did
that ever get.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
On your nerves though, because like you're not from Like
did you ever feel like I needed because we I
think we all thought you were from.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Very long time.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Just the whole look, the whole vibe, like that's on
the East Coast. Like I feel like the way you sound,
your look everything. I didn't know that people over this
way at all could look or emulate that, Like I
thought you had to go to La to look.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, and that's the thing. I wasn't even emulate nothing.
That's just how I am. Like that's just what I
be on.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Like there's pictures of me in high school on the
same vibe, and I listened to Dipset.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Like that's my favorite group.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah, like Camera on my favorite So yeah, I just
love I mean, like I think it's just my demeanor.
My swagger remind people more like West Coast smoking weed
for sure, being tatted, you know a lot of those things,
like the Chucks like you're saying, like you associate that
with people from the West Coast. And then my beat
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selection too, is real funky, like it's more like top down,
right around type of music. And I think that came
more into play for me hanging out with currency, like
just being in New Orleans, we would just be more
on some smooth vibe type stuff rather than like really
turned up or trapped out type of music, and that
just became the you know, the style of beats that
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you know, we both kind of went after.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I love how you keep Max B's name a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, he's on the new project. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
He's also one of my favorite artists as well. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, Oh did you speak to them?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
You said?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
How often do I here and there? Yeah, especially now
that the album's coming out and he's coming home too. Yeah,
we talk here and there. It's nothing too crazy to
just be like, I see big bro.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
How Didy'll get them on the project over the phone. Yeah,
that's just not good as that would be a yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah, well the voice notes. It's easy to do it
on voice notes now and then just line it up.
Like I told you, we manipulated music these days.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So you take your vocal, didn't put the beat behind it.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I don't want people to start getting their friends in
jail on their records.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
The whole album.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I don't know how much. I don't know, but don't
do it. They out of trouble.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
The other thing I was gonna say too, Man, do
you see the moments in your life when like your
courage just went up, Like, for example, like when you
put out weed and boys, that's another level. You put
out uh the other black and yellow, that's another level,
and then see you again.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
That's every white person in America's favorite funeral.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Anthem favorite funeral. It is. Yeah, No, I think I had.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I look at my career like like a basketball.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Player or something like that, like me being signed to Atlantic.
I did really well, like being a major artist. So
I look at it like that.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
You just recently sold your home in Pittsburgh too, Yeah
all that the decision to do that, why just because
it was time or like because I know it's you know,
that was a that was when you were on your
come up and you know, like letting that go.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, why because I just had my daughter and I
wanted to move my mom out to LA. She was
tired of she was staying in that house. She was
just tired of being there.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Wow, it wasn't like a bad house.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
No, no, it's a nice house.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
I just can't believe she hasn't already like moved to
LA at this point now, because.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
You know, you got it's hard to get older people
to move out.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Of there, it is, I mean, yeah, just being from Pittsburgh,
like you know, She moved around a lot when we
were younger because of the military. So when she got
back to the burg, like she was just there, like
she was set up there. And when I left, that
was me leaving as an adult. But we hadn't lived
in the same city in a long time. So when
I had my daughter, she wanted to move out to
LA and it just made sense. Just go ahead and
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you know, move on to the next chapter.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
And she with y'all now living with y'all, doesn't live.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
With me in LA.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
She has her own house and you know, we're in
a good distance from each other where we see each
other all the time.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Okay, because I know people do that when they first
have babies, like just to get the extra help, have
mom there and just kind of step in.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
It's pretty much like that. But she she has her
own spot, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
And it's super duper convenient because, like I said, I
haven't lived in the same city as my mom in
like fifteen years. So I'll be driving out of my
house and she'll be coming through the gates. So it's
super cool to just see my mom like randomly during
the day.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
What you get with her grandkids yeah, she loves it.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yo, she's like full time OG.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
How do you feel about your children being open to
public scrutiny like motherfuckers on social media commenting?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
And yeah, no, it is what it is like.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I feel like they're going to go through that anyway
at school, Like they guys snapchat and they be doing
all that stuff at school. So that's just the world
that we live in now. And like back in the day,
we used to rip on each other too, so we
just didn't have the computer to do it. But it
builds tough skin and it is what it is like.
I've always been able to still be confident in myself
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and function and not crash out, you know, due to
what anybody says about me.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
So I feel like they'll be all right.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
If it's the week whenever you feel yourself about the
crash out or like no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
No, it's not the weirdest the confidence man, I breathe,
I do yoga, I believe in myself. I got a
higher calling. Yeah, and sometimes they might be right. I
do look funny sometimes my.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Feet my feet are ugly or not ugly but messed up.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
But like you can't get mad at like you know,
people pointing out your flaws because we're not perfect. So
if you point out a flaw, you might be right.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
So you practice yoga.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I do hot yoga too. It'll be one hundred and
thirty degrees in there.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I did that shit a couple of a couple of
I did like a week and a half ago with
my wife. I couldn't. I did it, But that's shit.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
It is yoga.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Yeah, there's like some old ladies in there. They go
every day. I'm like, y'all are gangster. They might do
it three times in one day.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
I'm like, that's really gangsta.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
But the thing I didn't like about it, they don't
give you no tutorial like you gotta. It's like you're
just just like double Dutch word up. It's just like
your hold up, what you mean do this?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
It means it's more of a flow. Yeah, it's a flow.
So you watch everybody around you. You can look at
the instructor, you can look at you know, whoever makes
you comfortable in the room. Like you said you was
with your partner, so she probably went a couple of times,
so you get, you know, fill it out.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
But it just helps you let go.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
And there's a lot of stuff that you probably won't
be able to do it for a long time, but
you'll start to see progress.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
And that's what it's about too. It's just about learning yourself.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Why don't you talk about stuff like that? I do?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I said, I said it in my song. I was
like she working out, we're doing yoga and hiking. I said,
I say it in my music and the new music hiking.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I say it.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
But like there's ways to do it and wrap me
music because at my age, people will quickly call you
unk and al yeah, no, no, no, I think said that.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
He said, don't call me unk, call me big dog.
That's the.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Y'all are not giving unk. He gives unk. Y'all don't
give no.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I'm not unk. I could be unk. But if I'm
unk and I'm calling you nephew.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
And you don't and you don't want me to do that,
three years, once you hit forty, you officially, well, them
is going to be my nephews.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Then that's a lot of people. That's what I'm saying though,
But like they want to be they don't want to
be nephews. So don't call me unk, but them, there's
not wrong with being a un because un sign of respect.
But the the derogatory term of it is just like
out of style, out of day. We don't want to
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hear that slow, you know, to not it's just in
a way that they're like, all right, you know what
I mean. It's not like advice that they really want
to like live up to. And that's what I'm putting
it in a form and in a way where I'm
packaging it where you still can see yourself doing this
in the next couple of years. You could be twenty
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three and listen to my music and be like, I'm
just a little bit more advanced.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I'm not. I'm just you know what I mean, I'm
on a different vibe. I'm on another level.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
And then a lot of the stuff that I say
too is personal to me, so it's not even really
for you to actually go out and do. I'm just explaining,
you know, the things that are important to me, and
I hope that inspires you.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
So, you know, kids, respect though, respect it's like old
nigga old ahead, yeah, old head, oldhead still okay o,
g oh head still.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
And you know how you say oh head.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Like if you're like yo, oh hey, that's that's disrespectful me.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Like, yo oh hey, whatever's yo old head is like
that sounded real fragile, like.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Get out of the way from laid out in the
street or.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
No, I love getting older. I think certain people get
better when they get older.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
They start to you know, different stages of their life,
reveals things that their twenties and thirties never have. So
I think that, you know, I'm pretty much on my
way to that, and I'm enjoying myself, like at the
age that I'm at. I love being this age.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I love telling people my age and then being like
damn because it catches a lot of people off guard.
But it is what it is though.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
But that's what I like about you opening up about
the yoga and the hiking and whatever other mindfulness things.
You may be right because you talk about how first
chrishion Ards juice influenced the generation of stoners. I'm like, well, damn,
what's this part two gonna influence?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
See that's the thing about the first Christian orange juice.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
It did inspire a lot of stoners, but it created
a lot of bosses too. A lot of people bossed
up and did things on their own and put their
teams on and they're successful now based off of listening
to Cushion Orange Juice or that era, a lot of
people was like, Yo, I'm grab a camera or I'm
gonna start promoting shows, or I'm gonna start a clothing
line or I'm gonna start a blog or whatever whatever,
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and they're still like they're successful. So like that's what
kush norms used to is gonna do as well. It's
positive thinking. It ain't hunk, So it's gonna spark you
know a lot of bosses, a lot of young players
and a lot of women who boss up as well
and expect you know, the same from you know what
I mean. So it's just going to create a really
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a really cool energy for people to creat And.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
That's what I want.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
You said, getting older, you're getting better at things. What
have you gotten better at?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Uh? Physically, I've gotten better, decision making, I've gotten better,
patience wise, I've gotten better, creatively, I've gotten better and
just as all around, like human being.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Like that's that's my main focus.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Like when I was younger, I was focused on being
the best artist or the best performer or the flyes nigga,
like now I just care about being adope, being like
and being happy for that day. Like, that's all I
care about. As long as I'm happy at this moment
in this day, I'm good. And I try to live
every day like we'll not try to live every day.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I do live every day like that.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Since you like, there are people that are younger than you,
just in music that I'm sure call you about different things,
because creatively your music does inspire people like you mentioned,
but like, just as a dad and in a relationship,
a lot of your stuff is public. Like I saw
a conversation an interview where I think it was Ambert.
She was talking about you guys had to sit down
Sebastian have a conversation he found her only fans or
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something like that. How do you guide first of all
yourself and have that conversation with your son, But when
your friends your peers are calling you like yo, my
girl's doing this online or like whatever, what's your conversation
with people? Because you handle things so well and so gracefully.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Nah, I think I don't. I don't expect everybody to
handle things the way that I do. So my advice
is sometimes is like man, shit be.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Fucked up dog like, that's it. That's just how it is.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
But you have to accept it and you have to
understand that that's a part of it as well. And
it be like that sometimes. But we make these decisions
based off of what we think we can handle and
what we can't handle. So or you're given a lot
of responsibility based off of what you can handle and
you don't even know you ready for it like that.
So if you really want this, you're gonna deal with
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the good.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
And the bad. Like I'm built for it.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I know how to smile, I know how to you know,
put on a face in front of people who I
know might have talked shit on me or tried to
cut my throat or one up on you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
But it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Well, I don't get no further by exposing all of that.
I get further just by being me. But a lot
of people ain't built for it like that.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
So you know, you really you really got to be
like that as a parent, Are you ever really ready
to have those like really public conversations with us, Like
that's such a public thing to have to talk about
in your child to see, and then in private you
have to deal with it. But then also in public,
you have to deal with it because then y'all talk
about the fact that it happened.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
I think, like.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Me, I just keep it pushing, like as long as
I'm good, Like in the household, you're gonna have to
deal with that or things like that, regardless if it's
not even directly involved with you. You're still gonna have
to have some type of conversation like that with your kid.
And it's not easy for anybody. So as soon as
they start finding that stuff or looking at that stuff
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or hearing things about you know, it might be their parent,
it might be their sibling, it might be you know
what I mean, it could be whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
There's no age limit to that.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Either it happens through their teens, it's gonna happen in
their twenties.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Oh I heard your son is out here. Da da
da da da. Right.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
I don't even know what that's like yet, But we
go through the stages. Every parent's gonna go through the stage.
But as far as publicly, I don't live my life
for the public, so I don't even like, I don't
even consider that when I'm making my moves.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
I don't care like I don't hear it, I don't
digest it. It's not it ain't real to me.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
And if it pops up, then it's something that I
you know what I mean, I'll deal with it in
the moment, but like I ain't tripping on.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
None of that.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Are you going to keep secrets from your kids?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
What kind of secrets? Just in general?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Like you know, always tell people that you know, you
should always have conversations with your parents because you'll find
out that they had a life before they were your parents.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, I think having how old are your kids?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Sixteen nine sixty three.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Yeah, having a twelve year old, it's like I'm finding
out that they know way more than.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
You actually think that they know.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
So it's hard to keep secrets when they're telling you
shit that they know that you thought that they didn't know.
So it's like, damn you, there ain't no secrets, like
for real, for real you I'm I didn't even know
I was going to have to explain that to you.
But it's just part of it, like because I think
the benefit of that is them not having to hear
it from somebody else. I was raised by my cousins,
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and you know what, I mean a bunch of eighteen
year olds and twenty year olds when I was his age,
so I was learning things a little bit differently, Like
the filter was totally different. So I would rather be
able to give my kids.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
That knowledge than like the streets. Yeah, hell yeah, because
it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
What is a drake move with?
Speaker 3 (36:12):
What's what's a drake? A very smart business decision? I know,
that's right, That's what a drake move is.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
You know what I want to ask you to, man,
You've been a mentor to a lot of great people.
And I recently saw this thing called the Mount Rushmore
White rappers and the good brother mac Miller was on it.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
You know how.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
I don't know if you saw it, but how did
that make you feel? Knowing that you was a mentor
to He's the greatest rapper was Eminem, it was mac Miller.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
They shouldn't be separating white rappers and black rappers. They're
all rappers.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
And mc miller is an amazing artist, bro, Like I
watched some you know, come from just being a kid
in the studio to like really changing how people digest
and listen to music, like on his own And of
course we started he started like kind of after I
was doing what I was doing, so it was people
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associated me and him together like like.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
I was doing that for him or something like that.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
But he was just inspired by what he was around,
and as soon as he like branched off and started
doing his thing, he gained his own identity, his own
fan base, his own expectations of what his music is,
and his own you know, love and legacy for what
his music is.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
So I love I love that kid.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
I don't even know if this is a question you
can answer, But what are you and Mac? What do
y'all mean to Pittsburgh? You and Mac in particular case,
I can't think of anybody else who was big as
either one of you in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
There's a lot of people like big on a street level,
like Jimmy Woppo, Like there's a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
But I think to Pittsburgh, I don't even know. I mean,
we're just Mac and Withiz that's it. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
you got to.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Be inspiring the whole city in somewhere.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
Yeah, I think you're the first who else would I've
known from Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
I think it's like, yeah, as far as music and
as far as on that level, like traveling the world
doing collabse with major artists.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, me and Mac for Shore.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah yeah, it's been it's been seven years since macpast.
Do you have those moments where you like, Mac not here?
Speaker 1 (38:30):
It kind of still bothers me, just because it's like
he's not here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
And that's the that's the part that sucks because it
happened like close to my birthday. So every time it's
around my birthday, they celebrating them, well you know, celebrating
his life too, so I'm always reminded.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I'm like, damn, bro, Like that one.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
That was just like it's like sometimes when people past,
it's like, Yo, that's fucked up, bro, Like yeah, you
never really it never really sit sits well, like you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
So that's one of them to shift anything in your life.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Nah, not really, because I knew him personally, so we
would have conversations and you know, he was like I think,
out of respect, everybody don't speak on like how what
he was dealing with, you know what I'm saying, So
we just like talk about his legacy. But it was
it was it was a lot to see him go
through that.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
Yeah, yeah, just legacy conversations wise, what were some like
what conversations still stick out to you that y'all had
you and Macnilla.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Really just how talented he was, like just playing all
the instruments and like in the studio creating like he
created totally different than I did. And just watching him
like put stuff together or like bring his ideas to life.
That was really fun for me. And like seeing him
on stage too. He is a really good performer as well.
Speaker 7 (39:48):
Yeah, just to see you smile mm hmm. Was that
a difficult record? No, okay, No, I like to make
like I like to make real songs. Yeah, yeah, it was,
Like I said, it was in a moment, and I
talk about my mom on there. I talk about like
the original like what was going on when I first
started making music and I brought it till now, and
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then I talk.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
About my siblings who passed away on there as well.
So no, it's not difficult for me.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Is it therapeutic in a way?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I will say that. I think it's
just like for me, I have to talk about everything,
like I can't just I can't.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Just give you like one side of like what's going.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
On, and a lot of people they may or may
not want to hear that, But for the people who do,
I make sure that that stuff is there, and I
make sure that it's current and that it's real for
them to go through too.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
The thing I like about you Will is like you
I've never seen you do no goofy shit fifteen years
and that's hard being an artist of your caliber, how
do you keep from doing goofy?
Speaker 4 (40:54):
And of your age too.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
You were young, I think, being from Pigs, got done
all my goofy shit before the camera was on, so
like I didn't need to, you know, get to my
twenties and you know, learn.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Those same lessons.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
I was on some bars shit, and everybody around me
you gotta be on my boss level or like we
can't communicate. And that was the main thing, is like,
you know, not only elevating my mind, but elevating the
minds of the people around me, and just taking it
to the next level and continuing to take it to
the next level.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Because I could have.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Got to a point where I was satisfied, but I
was like, now I'm gonna keep working, I'm gonna keep going,
and even at this point, now I see things that
people don't even see for myself. So these are the
things that I'm going after while I'm doing what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Even the team, you know, I see Will's still around.
You know, you got Chevy Woods on the as, Juicy's
on the AS. Like it's like tie, Like does that
all keep you grounded in a way?
Speaker 3 (41:54):
I mean that's yeah, that's really who's in my phone,
like all the homies. Like I don't hang out with
you know, new people. I don't hang out with a
lot of artists. I don't hang out with like people
who do things in their city that is, you know
like that. I don't be in niggas hoods like that.
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I just I be with my my team, my dogs,
I create content.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
I be in the studio, I be with my kids.
I be in a gym.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
So like there, mister, people who do that stuff with me.
And that's why the album is what it is like
with the group of people who it is. And even
even even with Gunner on the album, like Gunna is, yeah,
he's partners with some of my my real homies. So
like we just never got in the studio and recorded,
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but we felt like, you know, this would be a
good time to do something like that, but it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
It's never you know, you know how the industry is. Yeah,
it's not like that with me.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
People can't get First of all, Gun is super talented
number one, and you you're not. You're not a street
artartists never have that exactly. But they can't give you
no flak for that.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah, I don't. I don't associate with all of that.
That stuff, I don't. That doesn't dictate anything when I'm
making my decisions. So I'm we're not on that.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
People try because I didn't see that, what try to
give you flat for working with going on another project?
Speaker 1 (43:17):
If they did, I didn't see it either.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Okay, is that baby bottom.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
On you a baby bottom? Dots are spraaking, Yeah, it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
Look like a baby bottle.
Speaker 7 (43:30):
The coy fish still on the other side's still there.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
You remember when you Yeah, you're trying. You're trying to
go viral again.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
No, I wasn't here. What happened, no matter it met.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
An old joke, this new ship period.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Hey whe is man, Keep doing what you do. Man,
you are a blueprint. Thank you, whether people realize it
or not. App you know what I'm saying from the
music aspect even to the entrepreneur aspect. You got strange,
you got mushrooms.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
You got liquid Death.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Liquid look with Death, so brand for you?
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Explain that. How did you get involved early.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Before they even took off?
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Like it was like hey, boom boom bam and the
whole business thing and the whole you be a part
of this, we do that and lick with Death. Yeah,
this was Yeah, I've been I've been a part of
this company almost ten years now.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Liquid Death.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Wow, that ship everywhere.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
Yes, that's so everywhere. The first time I saw it,
I was like, what, why are you drinking that? And
then they explained that it was water yeah, and I
was like, oh okay. But even the can in the
way that is branded, it just fits your whole esthetic. Yeah,
that's what else do you do business wise on the
back end at Like I mean, if you want to
talk about it, like, there's a whole portfolio back there
that the people might not like.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
You said McQueen, but we we're part of that whole
company though, the whole Ducet and bel Air and all
of that.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
A frog When you say a part of the company
there's ownership there are you because I know you have
the alcoholic brands, but yeah, that's what.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
We're talking about. Yeah, there's ownership there.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
It's like it's like with business and being a part
of companies and having some of these companies aren't even
you know, public yet. So you buy into companies, you
have ownership, you have percentage.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
There's a lot of different.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Ways to you know, become a part owner or just
be a part of a business without starting it. And
that's where you know, the best the best decisions come in.
And it's all about timing too. Oh, p f L
as well. I don't know if you guys ever heard
of Professional Fighters League, but I'm involved with them too.
We just bought Bellator's and UFC and there's PFL. That's yeah, yeah,
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I'm down with them too.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
And you gotta fight in one of those.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
No, I don't think I'm a fighter. I don't think amateur.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
You built for that.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
I'm definitely built for it, But I don't want to
do it, like that's not what I trained or I
just trained to feel good.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
I don't train to you know, risk my life. Those
dudes risk their lives in there. Like somebody could die,
and like what's the point of me getting in there
and like risking half of my face not working to
just to you know what I mean, entertain everybody.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Like what I do is on stage and I'm good
with that.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Like my celebrity squabbles though, like just to keep people
out of trouble. Like I saw too Damn, who was it?
I just seen two rappers square up?
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
I think I think like rappers should meet in the
gym and they should fight, for sure, like with with gloves, mouthpiece,
with a clock, you know, like you.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Should set it up like if you really got a
problem with somebody.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
And that's the thing about like training martial arts or
just any type of you know, combat sport is like
you don't want to do it randomly, you feel me Like,
if we're really going to do this, if you feel
like that tomorrow or next week or next month, then
like by all means, please come down here, let's meet
up and let's get it cracking.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
I think that more people would benefit off of that,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Fight.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
I don't fight bro.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
The sparring.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Oh I spa all the time.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't
fight in the streets. So that's that's that's out.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Wi's Khalif for mana.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
Yes, like I made it through.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Come on, it's easy for y'all cool. I came to
see y'all.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Cush and you're about to go on to the Tailor
Gang World.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
Tailor game in the world. Yeah, Taylor gag the world.
Cushing os used to follow me on all socials. TikTok
Wiz Khalifa Instagram, Wis Kalifa x Wiz Khalifa.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Yeah, it's Wiz Kalif for the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yep, it's the World No Dangerous Morning Show to Breakfast Club,
Charlamagne and God Laura La Rossa. Envy's on his book tours,
so he had to step out. Jesse Larius is home.
But we got a legend in the building. It's okay
to call you that.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Right, Yeah, I'm cool with that.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, with Khalifa's hip. What's happening to my brother? Seen
you in a minute, not in person.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I know it's been a while.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, yeah, you've been working out, COVID happened, been taking
care of my kids.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I'm amazing, Thank you? How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
You're still doing the MMA and all that?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Absolutely every day?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, you wake up and do it early in the morning.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I have like a routine, so I go to the
gym five days a week. I do martial arts as well,
so I'm like, uh lifting, martial arts, and I do
hot yoga three times a week. So I'll get up
at like six with my kids, take care of my
dogs and my kids. Then I eat breakfast, then I
(00:56):
go to the gym, probably around like nine ish, and
then you know, from nine to about one or two
in the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
That's my program time. And then after that I got
the rest of my.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Day program telling me what to smoke.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
No, no, no, program is like workout, got yeah yeah,
whatever the program is for today, that's what I do.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
So you work high stone smoking between all of that. Yeah, yeah, No.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I smoke on the way to the gym and then
on my way to the next event. Yeah, yeah, for sure,
I stay stone.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
How long have you been smoking now.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I've been high for longer than I've been not high. Okay,
yeah consecutively.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, yeah, you be doing the shrooms?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
No, I quit doing shrooms.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I did it for a minute, so I don't really
need I feel like I need to keep doing them
over and over.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I'm glad you said need right because I was going
to ask, what is your intention when you smoke weed? Nowadays?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I just love being stoned. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I like the way it makes me feel. I like
the decisions that I make when I'm stoned. I like
the way movies look when I'm stoned. I like playing
with my kids when I'm sting. I just love being high.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah. Off marijuana though, just marijuana, not anything crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
The Cushion Orange Juice, Range Juice too. Yeah, great project.
I love I love the first time second apid though
th tough it. I really love the first asp thank you.
But it got like a nineteen ninety now G funk
sound for sure. Was that intentional?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah? Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I think that was like the original sound of Cushion
Orange Juice For a lot of people, it was like
nostalgic for the nineties or G funk or you know,
just riding around in.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
The car going to house parties getting fresh.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
It just got that whole you know, player vibe to
it and a little bit of funk to it as
well as just like the way the beats slap and
the way that the base is there. So a lot
of the productions Cardo and Sledgron and E Dan and
just the original people who you know, put that sound together.
So it was really easy to just bring it back. Yeah,
I'm glad you like it. Slaps thank you.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
You had announced in twenty twenty four that this project
was done and now it's here.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
The release of.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
It, so is it traditional release to streaming or like
how you're going to do because Cushion Orange just one
it was like you do did your own thing. You dropped,
you kind of changed the way people were listening to
music mixes at the time.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Right now, this one's going to streaming.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
We're releasing it through BMG, and uh, they've been really
really cool at letting me kind of just curate the
vibe and what the feeling of it is, and they
understand what the project is.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And we've had meetings, you know, weekly just.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
How we're going to attack it and you know, make
it last and making something real. So I've just been
really excited about updating, you know, the format. I think
that's what's most important, especially for like being an OG
in the game, is you know, releasing things with the
times how they are now, but also still being innovative
as well. And that's why you see, like in between
(03:48):
I've been dropping freestyles and doing a lot of stuff
like just entertaining my fans because I still have that freedom,
I'm able to do that as we get ready for
the album too, So just to put it all together
and make it current, I think that was the idea
for all of us.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
You know, yesterday was the fifteenth anniversary of Cushion Ars.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Yeah, yeah, I did hear that April fourteen, So you
did hear that, Yeah, album, I dropped so many albums
and stuff like that, like every month is an anniversary
of another project.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
But fifteen years, Yeah, that's tight.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
And I think we're really lucky to be able to well,
I'm grateful to be able to drop you know, the
sequel as close to as I did with the original one.
I feel like that's like a sign that just you know,
feels now it just worked out like that.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
It is divine alignment.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Like that.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Do you remember your mind state? April fourteenth, twenty ten.
I do, Okay, Yeah, what was it. I was just
getting off tour. I was in Miami.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I was working on rolling papers the album, but I
already had Cushion or Orange Juice done, and I had
been hyping it up for a lot of months before,
so my fans knew it was about to come out.
And I remember just going to the hotel room. I
was in a nice ass hotel on the beach, and
I was like, yeah, I'm about to drop it, and
I just released it from my computer that day. I
(05:12):
was really I was still am super confident, but I
was really really like super duper confident about the music
and just my connection with my fans, So that was
the time to do it.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Did it pissed the label off when you dropped in.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I really wasn't signed at that point. They were kind
of thinking about signing me, working on signing me. But
it didn't piss them off at all. They knew how
important it was for me to still curate that organic
thing because at that time I was doing a lot
more for myself than any label could do. And it's
still like that, Like I promote myself, I do my
social media, I do my merch, I do my marketing,
(05:47):
and I do all I just give you a whole
package and then you could just you know, you look
like a genius.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Well because changed everything though, that was like your that's
like your section eighty.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
That's so far gone that like beanded the tailor game. Yeah,
Like we were talking about it before you came in.
Like I remember the feeling when Cushion orangees came out,
and like I was a senior in high school and
like they would throw parties where you would literally come
to smoke and only listen to Cushion Orange jeps, and
like it was it was such a movement that it
was like really such a movement.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, yeah, that's what it was for. So it's good
that that happened.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It was all intentional and it was like, like you said,
that's like my you know, or my doggy style or
my illmatic Like I knew I had to make something
that was like that, and you know that was a
good one to be attached to. And yeah, it was
just I always tell people it's bigger than the music.
It's stuff like what you're saying, like, that's what makes
it what it is. Like even this album now, it's
(06:39):
amazing music wise, but you can't just sit there and
listen to it.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You gotta experience that shit.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
You gotta go to a beach, you gotta go on vacation,
you gotta kick it with the homies, you gotta hang
out super duper late. You got to hook up with
somebody who you've been you know, or you got to
meet somebody who you never even understood understood that with you.
That's what makes it what it is, and that's what
I'm excited for people to experience, as well as the
music being good.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
People don't realize that though. When you put out music,
music just provides the soundtrack to whatever you're experiencing in life. Yeah,
that's why you can never argue with certain people about
certain albums because the time of life they were experiencing
that album. Yeah, you can't like when somebody says, oh,
this is this is gonna remind you of whiz Kalif
for cushion Ards. Nah, right, I'm on something totally different
(07:24):
than I was than twenty ten exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
It's personal.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, I think people do have those personal moments or
those life decisions and what you're listening to at the
time definitely, you know dictates, you know what your memories
of that are, so it gets deep.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Do you think that because I saw that you have
like it's twenty two or twenty three songs on the project.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yeah, it's twenty two I.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Think so full Bonus records, four five Bonus record.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Bonus record.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
So normally with people who put that many songs on
in one place, it's like, you think people are gonna
listen to start to finish. But like I and me
listening to it, I don't have any doubt that people will.
Do you think that the conversation that you're having at
the beginning and then the conversation you haven't at the end,
is it cohesive? Or do you just throw songs on there,
like how do you kind of flowing out of well?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
With this project, the last maybe four songs we put
out before the album came out. We use this method
called the waterfall method, where you put songs out and
then add them.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
To the album later.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
And that was a conscious decision because I didn't know
what people were gonna want to hear. So those songs
helped me dictate what I was going to do with
the album. And I still like those songs, but they
weren't exactly what you were going to get from the
full album. So I used that as an opportunity to,
(08:43):
you know, do some promo and get the idea of
the album out there. But by the time you get
the actual real album, those eighteen songs are brand new.
Those are an experience that nobody has yet and that
everybody's going to get together. And that's where to me,
the more the conversation is is from the intro to
(09:04):
the eighteen song, and.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, it's pretty simple.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
It's the whole album is just about keeping it players motivational.
It's get stoned, and there's songs for the ladies and
their songs to ride around to. So as long as
I'm in that pocket. Yeah, the conversation is good in
my opinion. I know what my fans want and what
they expect, so I didn't go outside of that at all.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Why a sequel after all of these years, because that
could be hit of miss too.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah, I just again listening to the fans. Man, everybody
was telling me like how much they missed that sound
or that pocket of what I was doing at that time,
or how much they enjoyed it. So it's nothing for
me as an artist to like, you know, dig in
my bag and get with the producers that I trust
and really not recreate that but do what.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
That sounds like now.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
But it's the same feeling though, like you know what
I mean, and I'm not scared to do that. And
it's all about the fans. It's offered them and it's
what they want, you know. Like a lot of nostalgic
stuff is coming back. And my era, like you said,
is fifteen years ago, so it's way yeah, it's way
further removed than it is close. So why not just
go ahead and just revisit something that was you know,
(10:16):
big to us and that people appreciate the.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Problem with fans though they fickle and they don't want
you to grow. So you so you so even though
you've grown, like you're a father now, like your life
might be totally different than it was fifteen years ago,
They're like, no, I want twenty ten. Yeah, that's impossible.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I don't think it's impossible, really, yeah, because I think
they just want the best. Like I can experiment and
I can sing, and I can do country songs or
pop records, but they're like, yo, we like when you rap,
or I could wear you know, high fashion and you
know runway stuff, but they're like, we like when you
wear streetwear. And it's not hard for me to just
get right back into that. It's like, Okay, I'm trying
(10:52):
what I like and I'm still gonna do that in
my off time or if I get an opportunity to
do it, I'm gonna throw a suit on and I'm
gonna do a pop record, but it's not be my song.
It'll be somebody else's and I could still chart and
perform it all over the world.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
But for my fans, I'm gonna give them what they want.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
But you are Dad now Dada too, and making the
music and putting this project together like it does still
sound like whisky. For it's new and it's innovative, but
it's it's still the same feeling. How do you because
you are different, your dad is so different.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Now yeah, yeah, I think I'm just like a little
I mean, I just keep it one hundred like that's
what I always did. I always just talked about my life.
I talked about my day. I talk about my week.
So like I've never run out of bars.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
What's it like doing this whole run?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I so you got your coach, they don't go nowhere, Man,
I need some cisors.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I got.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Get some scissors.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
But it was you were and you did you stay?
You did a stage right here, you did perform.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I came I came out with with my Fia, and
I came out with Tie on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
And now though when you running around, you got to
make time to get back to family too.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
So how is that going to because you're about to
go on the tour.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
It's cool like with me because I feel like I
do a great balance of each So I've spun spun,
I've spent so much time at home and you know,
having my regular schedule, it's okay for me to step
away and do this for now, because this is what
I've been playing, this is what I've been working tours,
so you know, it's all part of the same process,
like it all goes together.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I feel like Coachella was quiet this year.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Now I wasn't quiet this year. It was it was
pretty rowdy.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I think they're trying to just take it back to
the essence of like what Coachella is about. So they
getting rid of like all the hype and all the
parties and stuff, and it's really about going to the
festival and a lot of people ain't down and like
you know, go in the desert and get dusty like that.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
How was the energy ill? Did you? Because I saw
people complaining that the crowd. Crowd was dead, not for
your not just for yoursel, but just in general.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
In my opinion, I think Coachella is all about like
the production and stuff like that. It's not really about
like seeing the crowd go crazy because they've been out
there all day, hot as hell, on drugs, sleeping in
tents and.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Stuff like that, so you can't really expect like too much.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
But I think it was I think it was really
like what Coachella is all about Yeah, I had a
good time.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
It was cool. I don't think it was dead.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
I saw you were you and Amy were dancing on
the side of stage.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
P Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Why are people so mad that you that's your girlfriend?
Why aren't mad that you dancing with your girl?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I don't think people were mad.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I think people just need clickbait, Like that's what the
world we live in these days. But I don't live
my life based off of that. I'm still gonna if
I'm hearing some music like I'm I'm.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
A dance But you never have like kind of leaned
into all of that stuff though, Like you've always kind
of like just even if it was happening, you did
your own thing, but we didn't know what Like people
the clickbait stuff. So like even when you were dating
and Baroles now with Amy, just people are really invested
in your life because you're such a big start and
now your kids are growing up and they're on social
media as well too.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
People just want to know things and they throw things
on Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I know I'm in control all of that though.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I give him enough to you know what I'm saying, Like,
like I said, I don't live my life based off
of it. Yeah, but I know that people are nosy,
like you haven't even seen my daughter and she's almost
a year old.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
So I can keep some stuff quiet.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
But this is the entertainment industry, so at the end
of the day, people are going to have their perception
of whatever whatever. But as long as my intentions are good,
I know I'm out here doing exactly what I'm supposed
to be doing, and nobody who really knows me and
loves me is ever going to be embarrassed by my
actions when I'm outside, So you can say whatever they
want to.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah, you won't be doing nothing, you literally really do.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
How do you talk to like a Sebastian's older getting
older now, which is crazy because it's just crazy to see.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Him get older.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
No, but it's literally.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Like when you think about when he was first born
to now and just being a fan and watching him grow,
there's probably so much things that you guys decide when
to talk to him about or not talk to him about.
But your celebrity, so it's different. How do you kind
of like what is your discretion on, Like here's what
I allow him to know or see or whatever, because
you can't guard kids from it everything.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, we just keep it one hundred with him too.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
He's a smart boy and these kids are we were
you know, grew up fast, but they're growing way faster
on the Internet and everything. So it's just about keeping
it real and you know, just allowing him to make
his own decisions as well. It's like I can tell
you what to do, but you know what's right and wrong,
and just instilling that in him. And also his friend
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group too. That's a real big thing now, is his
friend group. But I feel like just him being a kid.
He's a normal kid. He goes through the same things
that normal kids go through. He gets in trouble at school.
We have to get on zoom calls with his teachers,
Like all of it's on a.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Zoom call with a teacher.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
How is it?
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Like, how did the teachers react. I mean they probably
used to celebrity parents.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
They'd be cool.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
They be chill, Like I think it helps him a
little bit more too, They're like, oh shit, we get
to see what here?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
You can pass this class?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
How is it being a father of a daughter, Now,
I got four daughters, got his daughter, so I know
daughters bring out a different energy.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah, man, it's it's super duper sweet. She's really young still,
she's only eight months, she'll be nine months, so her
personality hasn't come out yet.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
But it is a little bit different having a little girl.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
And I'm older now too, as apparently I was twenty
five when I had Bash. I'm thirty seven now, so
it's just like a whole different mind state, like having
a new child and it's a girl.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
It was crazy to watch y'all all get older.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Not kids get older.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I'm because you know what it is. And I don't
know if it's because of the Internet. I don't think
we've had another movement like that when I think about
the you and Nick Kendricks and.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, I feel like twenty sixteen, like Uzzi and Cardy
and them, they.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Had a movement.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
But I will say it's because I know what you
talking about with Uzzi, especially because I'm from Delaware, from Philly.
But it was it's still just different, like I can't
really describe it, Like the way that the whole tailor
gang and like how we were dressing.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
It was really different.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
But the kids are doing that tozi them now.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah. Yeah, we were the blog era.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, and I would say, like the SoundCloud air like
trippy red and all of them like SoundCloud, and then
now it's more like the TikTok like the viral.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, and then streamers as well, like you know, so, yeah,
we've had some good errors.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Man, I guess we don't know when the temperature changes
now because back in the day you could you can
see it on TV, you could hear it on radio.
Now in that kind of makes everything seem like it's
all yeah together, You don't you don't really see when
it's weird season or season. Nah.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
See, I don't mean to keep disagreeing with you. I
think you just got to be tapped in. But that's
how it was back then too, Like you had to
be tapped in and know who the new up and
coming blog era rappers were, and then the older dudes
didn't really understand.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
They're like, man, these dudes got on.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Tight pants and book bags like that ain't rap music,
so we look weird to them. It's just always the
next generation looks weird to the other general, so you
really don't like see them on their way up.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
You really don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Your pants, crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Brow, your.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Essentially right now.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Back then those pants were tight h and them and
like American apparel getting like really tight hats.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
You had the people going and doing it.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I remember with the.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
US yeahs on like I'm shocked you had kids.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
How tight they were?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Type of those pants were tight?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Bro, How often do you revisit the first Christian?
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I say, I'm a lie before I answer a question.
I gotta stop doing that. You think that's smart, You're right.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I can't give it away though. Now. I listened to
it a lot because we perform it a lot.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, there's a lot of like festivals and places where
they're like, can you come through and perform the whole
catalog or give us three songs off of there or
something like that. So I listened to it, and I
listened to it for inspiration too. Sometimes I like, I
sampled a couple of songs on this new one from
the old one. I like threw it in there you
wouldn't even know, but just to like keep the DNA.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
There, Yeah, can you get can you tell me so
I can go?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
You figure it out? Then I got to do it
again exactly and again and again because.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
It feels literally I said that ear it feels like
the original cushion orangees even though it's new music.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
But and a lot of artists can't do that, not
this far apart. H.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
It's not it's not obvious stuff. It's nothing that you
would be like, oh, this is that. But if somebody
told you, you'd be like duh.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
But what is it that you do that?
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Is it the beat or the melody? Like what is
it that you hid in?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
There's so many ways to manipulate music these days.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, we just we just really, like I said, we
updated it, like we use new formulas for the same
thing that we already have. Like and then my producers,
uh Cardo, it sound never went out of style. And
even with him producing with like Cardi and all of that,
he still has his original drum kits and stuff like that.
So he's just getting right back in his bag. Sledgering.
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I work with Mike and Keys and Problem and DJ
Quick and just like throwing a lot of ideas around
to make something.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
That you know, like you said, remind you of the original.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
How much is LA an influence?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I would say.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
The La, like the lifestyle of LA is an influence.
I love LA, but I'm not from La. So I
didn't grow up like wanting to be a West Coast dude,
Like that's just how I.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Am, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
And being from Pittsburgh, we would probably resonate the most
with some place like LA or the Bay or even
like Detroit, Chicago, like we have a lot in common
with them too, But I wouldn't necessarily say like I'm
LA influenced, but I'm definitely embraced in LA like a mom,
just because of the similarities like in the production and
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the way that we talk and the way that we dress.
Like a lot of people associated me with being a
West Coast artist.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, and then the Snoop affiliation as well.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah, the Snoop affiliation too, But that wasn't even just
like I wasn't like, yo, I need to be best
friends with Snoop Dogg. He heard my music and was like, man,
this dude's tight. He embraced me, you know what I mean.
Like so that was like that, I'm grateful as heck
for that, Like you know what I mean, Like did
that ever get.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
On your nerves though, because like you're not from Like
did you ever feel like I needed because we I
think we all thought you were from.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Very long time.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Just the whole look, the whole vibe, like that's on
the East Coast. Like I feel like the way you sound,
your look everything. I didn't know that people over this
way at all could look or emulate that, Like I
thought you had to go to La to look.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, and that's the thing. I wasn't even emulate nothing.
That's just how I am. Like that's just what I
be on.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Like there's pictures of me in high school on the
same vibe, and I listened to Dipset.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Like that's my favorite group.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah, like Camera on my favorite So yeah, I just
love I mean, like I think it's just my demeanor.
My swagger remind people more like West Coast smoking weed
for sure, being tatted, you know a lot of those things,
like the Chucks like you're saying, like you associate that
with people from the West Coast. And then my beat
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selection too, is real funky, like it's more like top down,
right around type of music. And I think that came
more into play for me hanging out with currency, like
just being in New Orleans, we would just be more
on some smooth vibe type stuff rather than like really
turned up or trapped out type of music, and that
just became the you know, the style of beats that
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you know, we both kind of went after.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I love how you keep Max B's name a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, he's on the new project. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
He's also one of my favorite artists as well. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, Oh did you speak to them?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
You said?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
How often do I here and there? Yeah, especially now
that the album's coming out and he's coming home too. Yeah,
we talk here and there. It's nothing too crazy to
just be like, I see big bro.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
How Didy'll get them on the project over the phone. Yeah,
that's just not good as that would be a yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah, well the voice notes. It's easy to do it
on voice notes now and then just line it up.
Like I told you, we manipulated music these days.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So you take your vocal, didn't put the beat behind it.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I don't want people to start getting their friends in
jail on their records.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
The whole album.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I don't know how much. I don't know, but don't
do it. They out of trouble.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
The other thing I was gonna say too, Man, do
you see the moments in your life when like your
courage just went up, Like, for example, like when you
put out weed and boys, that's another level. You put
out uh the other black and yellow, that's another level,
and then see you again.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
That's every white person in America's favorite funeral.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Anthem favorite funeral. It is. Yeah, No, I think I had.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I look at my career like like a basketball.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Player or something like that, like me being signed to Atlantic.
I did really well, like being a major artist. So
I look at it like that.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
You just recently sold your home in Pittsburgh too, Yeah
all that the decision to do that, why just because
it was time or like because I know it's you know,
that was a that was when you were on your
come up and you know, like letting that go.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, why because I just had my daughter and I
wanted to move my mom out to LA. She was
tired of she was staying in that house. She was
just tired of being there.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Wow, it wasn't like a bad house.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
No, no, it's a nice house.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
I just can't believe she hasn't already like moved to
LA at this point now, because.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
You know, you got it's hard to get older people
to move out.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Of there, it is, I mean, yeah, just being from Pittsburgh,
like you know, She moved around a lot when we
were younger because of the military. So when she got
back to the burg, like she was just there, like
she was set up there. And when I left, that
was me leaving as an adult. But we hadn't lived
in the same city in a long time. So when
I had my daughter, she wanted to move out to
LA and it just made sense. Just go ahead and
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you know, move on to the next chapter.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
And she with y'all now living with y'all, doesn't live.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
With me in LA.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
She has her own house and you know, we're in
a good distance from each other where we see each
other all the time.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Okay, because I know people do that when they first
have babies, like just to get the extra help, have
mom there and just kind of step in.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
It's pretty much like that. But she she has her
own spot, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
And it's super duper convenient because, like I said, I
haven't lived in the same city as my mom in
like fifteen years. So I'll be driving out of my
house and she'll be coming through the gates. So it's
super cool to just see my mom like randomly during
the day.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
What you get with her grandkids yeah, she loves it.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yo, she's like full time OG.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
How do you feel about your children being open to
public scrutiny like motherfuckers on social media commenting?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
And yeah, no, it is what it is like.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I feel like they're going to go through that anyway
at school, Like they guys snapchat and they be doing
all that stuff at school. So that's just the world
that we live in now. And like back in the day,
we used to rip on each other too, so we
just didn't have the computer to do it. But it
builds tough skin and it is what it is like.
I've always been able to still be confident in myself
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and function and not crash out, you know, due to
what anybody says about me.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
So I feel like they'll be all right.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
If it's the week whenever you feel yourself about the
crash out or like no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
No, it's not the weirdest the confidence man, I breathe,
I do yoga, I believe in myself. I got a
higher calling. Yeah, and sometimes they might be right. I
do look funny sometimes my.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Feet my feet are ugly or not ugly but messed up.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
But like you can't get mad at like you know,
people pointing out your flaws because we're not perfect. So
if you point out a flaw, you might be right.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
So you practice yoga.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I do hot yoga too. It'll be one hundred and
thirty degrees in there.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I did that shit a couple of a couple of
I did like a week and a half ago with
my wife. I couldn't. I did it, But that's shit.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
It is yoga.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Yeah, there's like some old ladies in there. They go
every day. I'm like, y'all are gangster. They might do
it three times in one day.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
I'm like, that's really gangsta.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
But the thing I didn't like about it, they don't
give you no tutorial like you gotta. It's like you're
just just like double Dutch word up. It's just like
your hold up, what you mean do this?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
It means it's more of a flow. Yeah, it's a flow.
So you watch everybody around you. You can look at
the instructor, you can look at you know, whoever makes
you comfortable in the room. Like you said you was
with your partner, so she probably went a couple of times,
so you get, you know, fill it out.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
But it just helps you let go.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
And there's a lot of stuff that you probably won't
be able to do it for a long time, but
you'll start to see progress.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
And that's what it's about too. It's just about learning yourself.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Why don't you talk about stuff like that? I do?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I said, I said it in my song. I was
like she working out, we're doing yoga and hiking. I said,
I say it in my music and the new music hiking.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I say it.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
But like there's ways to do it and wrap me
music because at my age, people will quickly call you
unk and al yeah, no, no, no, I think said that.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
He said, don't call me unk, call me big dog.
That's the.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Y'all are not giving unk. He gives unk. Y'all don't
give no.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I'm not unk. I could be unk. But if I'm
unk and I'm calling you nephew.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
And you don't and you don't want me to do that,
three years, once you hit forty, you officially, well, them
is going to be my nephews.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Then that's a lot of people. That's what I'm saying though,
But like they want to be they don't want to
be nephews. So don't call me unk, but them, there's
not wrong with being a un because un sign of respect.
But the the derogatory term of it is just like
out of style, out of day. We don't want to
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hear that slow, you know, to not it's just in
a way that they're like, all right, you know what
I mean. It's not like advice that they really want
to like live up to. And that's what I'm putting
it in a form and in a way where I'm
packaging it where you still can see yourself doing this
in the next couple of years. You could be twenty
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three and listen to my music and be like, I'm
just a little bit more advanced.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I'm not. I'm just you know what I mean, I'm
on a different vibe. I'm on another level.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
And then a lot of the stuff that I say
too is personal to me, so it's not even really
for you to actually go out and do. I'm just explaining,
you know, the things that are important to me, and
I hope that inspires you.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
So, you know, kids, respect though, respect it's like old
nigga old ahead, yeah, old head, oldhead still okay o,
g oh head still.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
And you know how you say oh head.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Like if you're like yo, oh hey, that's that's disrespectful me.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Like, yo oh hey, whatever's yo old head is like
that sounded real fragile, like.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Get out of the way from laid out in the
street or.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
No, I love getting older. I think certain people get
better when they get older.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
They start to you know, different stages of their life,
reveals things that their twenties and thirties never have. So
I think that, you know, I'm pretty much on my
way to that, and I'm enjoying myself, like at the
age that I'm at. I love being this age.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I love telling people my age and then being like
damn because it catches a lot of people off guard.
But it is what it is though.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
But that's what I like about you opening up about
the yoga and the hiking and whatever other mindfulness things.
You may be right because you talk about how first
chrishion Ards juice influenced the generation of stoners. I'm like, well, damn,
what's this part two gonna influence?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
See that's the thing about the first Christian orange juice.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
It did inspire a lot of stoners, but it created
a lot of bosses too. A lot of people bossed
up and did things on their own and put their
teams on and they're successful now based off of listening
to Cushion Orange Juice or that era, a lot of
people was like, Yo, I'm grab a camera or I'm
gonna start promoting shows, or I'm gonna start a clothing
line or I'm gonna start a blog or whatever whatever,
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and they're still like they're successful. So like that's what
kush norms used to is gonna do as well. It's
positive thinking. It ain't hunk, So it's gonna spark you
know a lot of bosses, a lot of young players
and a lot of women who boss up as well
and expect you know, the same from you know what
I mean. So it's just going to create a really
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a really cool energy for people to creat And.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
That's what I want.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
You said, getting older, you're getting better at things. What
have you gotten better at?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Uh? Physically, I've gotten better, decision making, I've gotten better,
patience wise, I've gotten better, creatively, I've gotten better and
just as all around, like human being.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Like that's that's my main focus.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Like when I was younger, I was focused on being
the best artist or the best performer or the flyes nigga,
like now I just care about being adope, being like
and being happy for that day. Like, that's all I
care about. As long as I'm happy at this moment
in this day, I'm good. And I try to live
every day like we'll not try to live every day.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I do live every day like that.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Since you like, there are people that are younger than you,
just in music that I'm sure call you about different things,
because creatively your music does inspire people like you mentioned,
but like, just as a dad and in a relationship,
a lot of your stuff is public. Like I saw
a conversation an interview where I think it was Ambert.
She was talking about you guys had to sit down
Sebastian have a conversation he found her only fans or
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something like that. How do you guide first of all
yourself and have that conversation with your son, But when
your friends your peers are calling you like yo, my
girl's doing this online or like whatever, what's your conversation
with people? Because you handle things so well and so gracefully.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Nah, I think I don't. I don't expect everybody to
handle things the way that I do. So my advice
is sometimes is like man, shit be.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Fucked up dog like, that's it. That's just how it is.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
But you have to accept it and you have to
understand that that's a part of it as well. And
it be like that sometimes. But we make these decisions
based off of what we think we can handle and
what we can't handle. So or you're given a lot
of responsibility based off of what you can handle and
you don't even know you ready for it like that.
So if you really want this, you're gonna deal with
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the good.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
And the bad. Like I'm built for it.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I know how to smile, I know how to you know,
put on a face in front of people who I
know might have talked shit on me or tried to
cut my throat or one up on you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
But it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Well, I don't get no further by exposing all of that.
I get further just by being me. But a lot
of people ain't built for it like that.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
So you know, you really you really got to be
like that as a parent, Are you ever really ready
to have those like really public conversations with us, Like
that's such a public thing to have to talk about
in your child to see, and then in private you
have to deal with it. But then also in public,
you have to deal with it because then y'all talk
about the fact that it happened.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
I think, like.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Me, I just keep it pushing, like as long as
I'm good, Like in the household, you're gonna have to
deal with that or things like that, regardless if it's
not even directly involved with you. You're still gonna have
to have some type of conversation like that with your kid.
And it's not easy for anybody. So as soon as
they start finding that stuff or looking at that stuff
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or hearing things about you know, it might be their parent,
it might be their sibling, it might be you know
what I mean, it could be whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
There's no age limit to that.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Either it happens through their teens, it's gonna happen in
their twenties.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Oh I heard your son is out here. Da da
da da da. Right.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
I don't even know what that's like yet, But we
go through the stages. Every parent's gonna go through the stage.
But as far as publicly, I don't live my life
for the public, so I don't even like, I don't
even consider that when I'm making my moves.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
I don't care like I don't hear it, I don't
digest it. It's not it ain't real to me.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
And if it pops up, then it's something that I
you know what I mean, I'll deal with it in
the moment, but like I ain't tripping on.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
None of that.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Are you going to keep secrets from your kids?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
What kind of secrets? Just in general?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Like you know, always tell people that you know, you
should always have conversations with your parents because you'll find
out that they had a life before they were your parents.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, I think having how old are your kids?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Sixteen nine sixty three.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Yeah, having a twelve year old, it's like I'm finding
out that they know way more than.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
You actually think that they know.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
So it's hard to keep secrets when they're telling you
shit that they know that you thought that they didn't know.
So it's like, damn you, there ain't no secrets, like
for real, for real you I'm I didn't even know
I was going to have to explain that to you.
But it's just part of it, like because I think
the benefit of that is them not having to hear
it from somebody else. I was raised by my cousins,
(35:50):
and you know what, I mean a bunch of eighteen
year olds and twenty year olds when I was his age,
so I was learning things a little bit differently, Like
the filter was totally different. So I would rather be
able to give my kids.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
That knowledge than like the streets. Yeah, hell yeah, because
it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
What is a drake move with?
Speaker 3 (36:12):
What's what's a drake? A very smart business decision? I know,
that's right, That's what a drake move is.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
You know what I want to ask you to, man,
You've been a mentor to a lot of great people.
And I recently saw this thing called the Mount Rushmore
White rappers and the good brother mac Miller was on it.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
You know how.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
I don't know if you saw it, but how did
that make you feel? Knowing that you was a mentor
to He's the greatest rapper was Eminem, it was mac Miller.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
They shouldn't be separating white rappers and black rappers. They're
all rappers.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
And mc miller is an amazing artist, bro, Like I
watched some you know, come from just being a kid
in the studio to like really changing how people digest
and listen to music, like on his own And of
course we started he started like kind of after I
was doing what I was doing, so it was people
(37:12):
associated me and him together like like.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
I was doing that for him or something like that.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
But he was just inspired by what he was around,
and as soon as he like branched off and started
doing his thing, he gained his own identity, his own
fan base, his own expectations of what his music is,
and his own you know, love and legacy for what
his music is.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
So I love I love that kid.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
I don't even know if this is a question you
can answer, But what are you and Mac? What do
y'all mean to Pittsburgh? You and Mac in particular case,
I can't think of anybody else who was big as
either one of you in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
There's a lot of people like big on a street level,
like Jimmy Woppo, Like there's a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
But I think to Pittsburgh, I don't even know. I mean,
we're just Mac and Withiz that's it. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
you got to.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Be inspiring the whole city in somewhere.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
Yeah, I think you're the first who else would I've
known from Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
I think it's like, yeah, as far as music and
as far as on that level, like traveling the world
doing collabse with major artists.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, me and Mac for Shore.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah yeah, it's been it's been seven years since macpast.
Do you have those moments where you like, Mac not here?
Speaker 1 (38:30):
It kind of still bothers me, just because it's like
he's not here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
And that's the that's the part that sucks because it
happened like close to my birthday. So every time it's
around my birthday, they celebrating them, well you know, celebrating
his life too, so I'm always reminded.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I'm like, damn, bro, Like that one.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
That was just like it's like sometimes when people past,
it's like, Yo, that's fucked up, bro, Like yeah, you
never really it never really sit sits well, like you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
So that's one of them to shift anything in your life.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Nah, not really, because I knew him personally, so we
would have conversations and you know, he was like I think,
out of respect, everybody don't speak on like how what
he was dealing with, you know what I'm saying, So
we just like talk about his legacy. But it was
it was it was a lot to see him go
through that.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
Yeah, yeah, just legacy conversations wise, what were some like
what conversations still stick out to you that y'all had
you and Macnilla.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Really just how talented he was, like just playing all
the instruments and like in the studio creating like he
created totally different than I did. And just watching him
like put stuff together or like bring his ideas to life.
That was really fun for me. And like seeing him
on stage too. He is a really good performer as well.
Speaker 7 (39:48):
Yeah, just to see you smile mm hmm. Was that
a difficult record? No, okay, No, I like to make
like I like to make real songs. Yeah, yeah, it was,
Like I said, it was in a moment, and I
talk about my mom on there. I talk about like
the original like what was going on when I first
started making music and I brought it till now, and
(40:10):
then I talk.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
About my siblings who passed away on there as well.
So no, it's not difficult for me.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Is it therapeutic in a way?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I will say that. I think it's
just like for me, I have to talk about everything,
like I can't just I can't.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Just give you like one side of like what's going.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
On, and a lot of people they may or may
not want to hear that, But for the people who do,
I make sure that that stuff is there, and I
make sure that it's current and that it's real for
them to go through too.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
The thing I like about you Will is like you
I've never seen you do no goofy shit fifteen years
and that's hard being an artist of your caliber, how
do you keep from doing goofy?
Speaker 4 (40:54):
And of your age too.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
You were young, I think, being from Pigs, got done
all my goofy shit before the camera was on, so
like I didn't need to, you know, get to my
twenties and you know, learn.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Those same lessons.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
I was on some bars shit, and everybody around me
you gotta be on my boss level or like we
can't communicate. And that was the main thing, is like,
you know, not only elevating my mind, but elevating the
minds of the people around me, and just taking it
to the next level and continuing to take it to
the next level.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Because I could have.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Got to a point where I was satisfied, but I
was like, now I'm gonna keep working, I'm gonna keep going,
and even at this point, now I see things that
people don't even see for myself. So these are the
things that I'm going after while I'm doing what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Even the team, you know, I see Will's still around.
You know, you got Chevy Woods on the as, Juicy's
on the AS. Like it's like tie, Like does that
all keep you grounded in a way?
Speaker 3 (41:54):
I mean that's yeah, that's really who's in my phone,
like all the homies. Like I don't hang out with
you know, new people. I don't hang out with a
lot of artists. I don't hang out with like people
who do things in their city that is, you know
like that. I don't be in niggas hoods like that.
(42:15):
I just I be with my my team, my dogs,
I create content.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
I be in the studio, I be with my kids.
I be in a gym.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
So like there, mister, people who do that stuff with me.
And that's why the album is what it is like
with the group of people who it is. And even
even even with Gunner on the album, like Gunna is, yeah,
he's partners with some of my my real homies. So
like we just never got in the studio and recorded,
(42:42):
but we felt like, you know, this would be a
good time to do something like that, but it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
It's never you know, you know how the industry is. Yeah,
it's not like that with me.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
People can't get First of all, Gun is super talented
number one, and you you're not. You're not a street
artartists never have that exactly. But they can't give you
no flak for that.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah, I don't. I don't associate with all of that.
That stuff, I don't. That doesn't dictate anything when I'm
making my decisions. So I'm we're not on that.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
People try because I didn't see that, what try to
give you flat for working with going on another project?
Speaker 1 (43:17):
If they did, I didn't see it either.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Okay, is that baby bottom.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
On you a baby bottom? Dots are spraaking, Yeah, it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
Look like a baby bottle.
Speaker 7 (43:30):
The coy fish still on the other side's still there.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
You remember when you Yeah, you're trying. You're trying to
go viral again.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
No, I wasn't here. What happened, no matter it met.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
An old joke, this new ship period.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Hey whe is man, Keep doing what you do. Man,
you are a blueprint. Thank you, whether people realize it
or not. App you know what I'm saying from the
music aspect even to the entrepreneur aspect. You got strange,
you got mushrooms.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
You got liquid Death.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Liquid look with Death, so brand for you?
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Explain that. How did you get involved early.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Before they even took off?
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Like it was like hey, boom boom bam and the
whole business thing and the whole you be a part
of this, we do that and lick with Death. Yeah,
this was Yeah, I've been I've been a part of
this company almost ten years now.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Liquid Death.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Wow, that ship everywhere.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
Yes, that's so everywhere. The first time I saw it,
I was like, what, why are you drinking that? And
then they explained that it was water yeah, and I
was like, oh okay. But even the can in the
way that is branded, it just fits your whole esthetic. Yeah,
that's what else do you do business wise on the
back end at Like I mean, if you want to
talk about it, like, there's a whole portfolio back there
that the people might not like.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
You said McQueen, but we we're part of that whole
company though, the whole Ducet and bel Air and all
of that.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
A frog When you say a part of the company
there's ownership there are you because I know you have
the alcoholic brands, but yeah, that's what.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
We're talking about. Yeah, there's ownership there.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
It's like it's like with business and being a part
of companies and having some of these companies aren't even
you know, public yet. So you buy into companies, you
have ownership, you have percentage.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
There's a lot of different.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Ways to you know, become a part owner or just
be a part of a business without starting it. And
that's where you know, the best the best decisions come in.
And it's all about timing too. Oh, p f L
as well. I don't know if you guys ever heard
of Professional Fighters League, but I'm involved with them too.
We just bought Bellator's and UFC and there's PFL. That's yeah, yeah,
(45:48):
I'm down with them too.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
And you gotta fight in one of those.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
No, I don't think I'm a fighter. I don't think amateur.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
You built for that.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
I'm definitely built for it, But I don't want to
do it, like that's not what I trained or I
just trained to feel good.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
I don't train to you know, risk my life. Those
dudes risk their lives in there. Like somebody could die,
and like what's the point of me getting in there
and like risking half of my face not working to
just to you know what I mean, entertain everybody.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Like what I do is on stage and I'm good
with that.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Like my celebrity squabbles though, like just to keep people
out of trouble. Like I saw too Damn, who was it?
I just seen two rappers square up?
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
I think I think like rappers should meet in the
gym and they should fight, for sure, like with with gloves, mouthpiece,
with a clock, you know, like you.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Should set it up like if you really got a
problem with somebody.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
And that's the thing about like training martial arts or
just any type of you know, combat sport is like
you don't want to do it randomly, you feel me Like,
if we're really going to do this, if you feel
like that tomorrow or next week or next month, then
like by all means, please come down here, let's meet
up and let's get it cracking.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
I think that more people would benefit off of that,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Fight.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
I don't fight bro.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
The sparring.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Oh I spa all the time.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't
fight in the streets. So that's that's that's out.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Wi's Khalif for mana.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
Yes, like I made it through.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Come on, it's easy for y'all cool. I came to
see y'all.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Cush and you're about to go on to the Tailor
Gang World.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
Tailor game in the world. Yeah, Taylor gag the world.
Cushing os used to follow me on all socials. TikTok
Wiz Khalifa Instagram, Wis Kalifa x Wiz Khalifa.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Yeah, it's Wiz Kalif for the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club
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