October 17, 2022 • 43 mins
In this interview with Lil Baby, we sit down and discuss his new album, activism, friends locked up, issues with Akademiks + more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy
were all the breakfast club. We got a special guest
in the building. Indeed, albums out right now, Little Baby,
welcome back, brother. So what's y'all doing. How are you
feeling this morning? Man? Good? We were just saying, it's
the most press we've ever seen a little Baby do
ever in life. You came a long tell me about it,
(00:23):
interview everybody. It's still hard to get me doing. Now
what's the hardest Yeah, what's the hardest part about them? Now?
I still just don't like interviewed and now I like
talking about because and I watched it Invies, I'm like, da,
I wish I would have said that. I wish I
would ye. Now I feel like if I am going
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to do an interview, I'm trying to sell a little more.
And you got a lot going on, I think, even
just as far as in the world of activism, like
we talk about you in that space a lot too,
and I think originally you might not have thought about
yourself like that, but you can see that you are
somebody who is really active in the community. I saw
you talking about bringing arts to the schools with Jimmy
(01:07):
Ivan and Doctor Dry. Of course, the bigger picture was
a huge deal when you put that song out for
people to feel like they could relate to you and
other positive things that you've been doing. Is that something
that you felt like, what something you wanted to do,
or was that just kind of came about without you
even thinking about it. It's something that I actually been
on my mind the whole time. Like so from from
(01:31):
the beginning, I always knew like it's what I wanted
to do, or not even what I wanted to do.
What I've been doing far as a rapper up with
fiving maybe to man, I always like trying to take
care of my community and stuff. But then that's I
getting bigger. How how much you say I said take
care of my community or another thing you made doing
a million I wish I didn't hear that either something,
(02:01):
but go ahead, So you said you've always wanted to
take care of it. I always want to take care
of my community. Stiff like that something. Now I'm in
a position and I could like help take care of
the world. Well, imagine question you are you wanted to
humanitarian award recently? Right for your contributions in your hometown.
But then you ain't gonna just went diamond for for
drip too hard? So which feels better or do they
feel the same? Which means more to you? Hemanitar? What
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mean more than me? You know what I'm saying? But
it record means a lot too. The oh yeah a lot,
but it's like two different fields. Yeah, all right, that
was a great music accompliment a little baby, and then
tearing war was a great accompliment. Yeah, your family probably
cares about one more, right, and your mom like, oh
humanitarian a ward apparently understand you have a really understand
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the influence you have with these kids, Like you know
where you're from, of course your neighborhood. You're a huge
influence because they see somebody who made it. But then
when you travel this world, in this country and even overseas,
how much these kids really follow you and love you?
And does that ever hit you? Yeah? Definitely a lot.
And do you feel like you have to live up
to a certain way of living because you got these
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kids following it all the time. I try how to
say certain stuff, I try how to post a certain stuff,
and like I know, for in fact and not even
just all the other kids because I think about them,
but my kids like they do everything I do, so
I had to like be honest. So they helped me
for like the other kids too, because you got the
new album. It's only me with the album covered with
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all your faces on the Mount Rushmore break that down. Um,
you know, I like, I guess at the time I
made an album cover is just like people probably in
them that Mount Rushmore stage and posting. Everybody put their
own pitches and stuff, so I just thinking, like I'm
gonna just use my face follow them, um um. Ashley
(03:55):
man Cash from the eight So we came up with
the idea thinking about it too because it's like your
first generation millionaire in your family, so that that title
probably reflects your personal life too, right, Well, I ain't
really like think about it like in my personal life,
but it's more so on the fact of like I
don't really worry about nobody else. I'm only focused on me,
(04:18):
So it's like most or something like that. I would say,
you're one of the very few artists that have been
has super super success but still do records with a
lot of people, still fun with a lot of artists.
It's almost like you still challenge yourself to see if
you can challenge them a lot of times when when
when rappers get to a certain part in their life,
they don't want to do records with certain people, or
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it's about the number what you or the course of
the price. But what you I see you do that
a lot more. Why is that? Um? It's just basically
like number one ain't no hater and number two. I
feel like it's a it's a it's a team sport,
just like it is like everybody's solo artists as a team.
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I feel like we do more because you'll do an
you'll do an artist of course with you know, with
this artist with which is known, Like you do a
record with Doug or with Gunner, right, that's family. But
then you'll do a sleazy but then you do ice
with Vessel, But then you do this one. Like it
seems like you like the competitive sport of it for sure.
Definitely Vessel QC. Right now, But you got twenty three
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songs on this album. No, you only got about six
or seven rap features though you kept them low for reason.
What do you mean that was a lot think for
twenty three three songs? Now it would be a feature
on every song, feel like from these rappers. I feel
like seven was a lot. Okay, okay, why I'm twenty
three songs too? That's a lot. And I know it's
been a while people have That's the reason I put
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out a lot because i't so they say I plan
on dropping again like nine ten minutes something. I want
to have twenty three songs song. But since I ain't
dropping like almost two years, I just like it. But
why was it so long? Was it because those other
records were still ringing and still top new records? Well?
I think because COVID kind of like I dropped my
last album, like right, folks, So I was like a
(06:05):
year that I wasn't gonna drop none or even a
year and a half, and just like coming out of COVID,
trying to get my cell together, get back to working
stuff like that. This had a different title first two right,
originally I ain't never had no time at first? Okay,
how did they convince you to do a documentary? Man?
Because he seemed like you're very private. How did you
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beat you to do a doctor? It really wasn't It
really wasn't right. But what you mean meaning like they
had a cameraman for like four five months. I don't
let him come with me, like two or three times,
you do know, you were wrapper down, like like I
get it what you're doing with nobody? He was like,
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who did dude with this boy? Oh? He's young too. Still,
you know, I might be on the phone time to somebody.
I don't know. It's just my person in space. You
had to be in a house, that your house, me
and my children, stuff like that. But now I look
at that document, I kind of wish I would have
let him come with me a little more because streets,
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you like, it's your career, it's your life. You gotta
be like squeez stuff though, Like ain't like I don't
want a round because we might do something just I
just ain't comfortable with. Yeah, I feel record me. Did
you know what he was there for? I don't. But
it's like natural. So it's like you just record all day,
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I'm saying, or whenever you pick the phone or I
ain't really fun in that. Yeah, but like even being
in the studio or doing a show, that's a good
time to film stuff, just to see the business aspect
of things, right, And when it came to negotiating. Like
I saw before you were talking about how you get
three hundred and fifty thousand dollars for a feature now,
and I remember previously you had said it was like hundred, yeah,
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one hundred thousand, So um, when people are asking you
for features, you just tell them it's three fifty. Like
I really only do features no more. I ain't in
that space right now because people getting afford them, people
could afford them. People called I turned her right, two
three features a day. Damn yeah, probably two fifty, I'm saying.
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I ain't say three fitty either. I said like three
hundred to two fifty. Maybe I even take two hundred,
But I ain't really I ain't trying to do it.
So if you want me to do it, I got
a fee. What makes you during the reason for turning
them down? I ain't really trying to do them, but
like just because you have your project out or you
(08:36):
just don't. Yeah, maybe because like like recently, I've been
working on my project and I already had enough features
out and I knew you need to least drop a project.
I just keep doing feature So I just didn't want
to do them. Who's the one person you haven't worked
with that. You would love to get in the studio
with and and go back and forth with Really three stacks?
Have you reached out to them more? Yeah? I actually
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could have been on an album for sure. He's send
him the song like, but I didn't feel like I
had the one for them. I really want to, like
you know that would versus like sending him the song.
He was an outcast fan of course grown up. No,
not really really, I like too young for that, But
I mean, of course, of course I'm a fan of
under thy Thousand. I'm saying once I got like older
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and I went to like the bad story and stuff.
But growing up I knew they like big songs. I want,
like I had to get an album, I just look
under thoth thouans. But I love how the Doctor you
showed how I'm not getting the nomination for my Turn
for the Grammy impacted you. But what did you do
creatively around that time? After that? And I know you
did the performance, but how did that affect how you
(09:40):
approach this? Up? It? Then? I don't really think about
stuff like that. Honestly, I ain't never gonna be like,
I gotta get me a Grammy out of it. I
don't think I'm ever gonna be like that. What is
important to you when you put together a project and
they do well, you know what I'm saying That also
that they do well for a long period of time, Like,
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that's what it matters to me. I wanted to stick.
That's how I really care about. I only care about
first week normous like all that type of style. I
wanted to stick. You know. You know, you're at the
point now where you've been winning so much they're waiting
on you to feel see that. Yeah, it's like, no
matter what you put out, they're gonna be like it
ain't ye. But that comes with the territory, you know that.
(10:21):
I guess so because I saw this video the other day.
Alan obviously was saying, I told Lebron, they love you now,
but eventually they're gonna hate you. It just comes with it. Though.
Oh yeah, they they've been Yeah, they've been that long
time ago. But it don't matter because he keep winning
and he keeps doing the thing right. How do you
handle that when you see when you see things people
saying like, oh I don't like that, I don't like
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that record. Uh baby could have can't hard enough. I
just keep working. I gotta do. Everybody that's not gonna
not like it, everybody entire their own opinion. Do you
listen to your old music? I do? And so when
you reflect, like even looking at this album cover and
you look at the space that you were in in
each one of those pictures, what are your thoughts about,
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like your growth as an artist, not even just my
music or anybody music. When I hear it, I automatically
go back to like the time I was at when
I like remember playing a song a lot, So I
don't ready just look at look at the album covern,
think about the time I was at something. But different
songs on the album put me back in the spot
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from the last two years when I've been making a song,
because some of the songs from like two and a
half years ago then someone kind of recent. Were you
afraid to reveal so much about yourself in the documentary? No,
because I don't feel like I just reveal everything, right,
So maybe the documentary was like, well teaser to me then,
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like I mean, you know what they're anges tell like
this this day I gave like major power points to
get you to understand the story. But even really like
a right down to my life, like I told you
how what I did and stuff, and ain't like getting
the details and I could have really gotten in details.
Do you own with everything that's going on in the world, right,
do you move differently? The reason I ask is, you know,
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when I talk to other DJs, whether it's in other
cities and other markets, but like now, a little baby
was saying, I was talking to somebody in La there
was like Noah, a little baby came to the club
by himself. It was just him and look outside. No now,
But what do you mean differently now because of what's
going on in the world and recession and you know
what's happening with everybody or what's what's your mind frame
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with that? All the way earnestly all the way I'm
on that. What you say i'd be by myself, you
would think i'd beat like I know, I'm going somewhere,
I'm with a lot of people. But when I just
go somewhere on my leisure, most of the time, I
myself and I hate secure. But p Ma sh Yes
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is right. He is absolutely right. And you shouldn't be
sliding by yourself nowhere either because man, mother fucker's crazy.
Out of the story I heard about it, La, They said,
a little babies crazy, A little babies comfortable. They said,
don't worry, I'm good. I ain't saying nothing can't happen
to you think I'm saying like so like what I'm saying, like, man,
I want to live in my life. Yeah, you work
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something though, you know Forty told me one time you said, Man,
when you work something, you gotta protect it. You gotta
protect it. But I ain't gonna just be at no where,
Lola yagging man me like I'm I'm not being do
what I gotta do. Get on even sometimes a lot
of people be a headache, should be stretched. Sometime I
just want to put my hoodie on. Then sometimes if
you know me, you know me, you know me like
I know how to I could come in the room
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when y'all y'all want to know a man feel me like,
I don't gotta be loud. I could be by myself. Look,
I might don't even I don't know drip Like, yeah,
we've seen video. I've seen the video. You slide into
the store by yourself. One timebody was open the video. Okay,
actually somebody was in the car. Oh, I was walking out,
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but I did go and stow by myself though that
We've seen your interview with with Loony and Loony, and
he said, I think in the interview said now you're
you're into skinny girls. You're not. You're not mad at
just talking to kicking it to skinny girls, right? What
made you start liking skinny girls? I don't know. At first,
I just like like a previce. I just like, I
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like thick girls. Say you like thin girl now, I
just like, I don't know. I think I'm on my
supermodel phase. So all your thick girls got into your
d ms and started texting you like fuck you. Nah,
I ain't saying I don't like thick girls. I like girls. Now.
You got a couple of records for the ladies on
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this on this project, what's the joint called? Uh? What
was it? What was what? I forgot? Which one? It was? Forever? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
yeah Friday feature Friday? Who was that to somebody too?
We kind of fucked up on it. I already had
a song Ain't for Ever on another project. I ain't
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catch the last project. Yeah, well wine, different type of
record though. Yeah. But when he had the same song,
changing your girl's name that you wrote it about. You
can tell ain't any about it? Girl? Something you talking
about a girl on that record? Maybe seven girls? Oh
so okay, all right, every particularly, It's just I when
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I rapped, I kind of speak in general. I try
to say stuff that could go to like anybody's situation.
I don't really got to be my situation, but it
could be something that I went through that I know
everybody go through. You know what I'm saying. So anyway,
just like try to sing to one girl or like
sing to a personal because I know I got an audience,
so I try to make it like, well, talk about
stuff I know everybody go through. Yeah, so you're just
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wrapping it's it's entertainment. So how do you How do
you feel about them trying to use lyrics in court
now days? I hate that sure that you think you
could love more than one girl at a time. UM,
be careful how you answer this. Probably not, probably not.
I mean you can have a love for everybody, but
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in love, I don't think I could be in love
with two people at one time. I think I'm one
of the lyricism. I got a lot for you, but
you got a little for you. You could be with
a woman who was with other men too, like you said,
we could, we could share her or whatever. That's fine
with you, because you're not ready to settle down, right,
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So you don't expect somebody to be committed to you
if you're not committed to them exactly, all right, that's
open minded. Some people feel like they don't. I'm with you.
I don't want you to be with anybody else. Did
you used to be like that? Ain't on it, ain't
on it like I do. Only make sense. I ain't selfish. No,
no kind of way that'll be selfish me. You ever
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had a guy hit you up about you messing with
this girl I'm messing with and try to confront you.
How do you handle something like that? What's the conversation?
Like he missed a little baby? Can you please stop
knocking down my girl? Yeah, you don't have those I
had like that? It should be wow, give me one
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more time next week. Sent it back home December, December,
you get it back into something. It's just a year
at least. I don't know. I feel like he went
in towel, like he's you know. I feel like you
gotta have those conversations, especially when you're dealing with two
brothers with money, because you might be doing stuff for
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her financially and he might be doing it. They don't
need you. All the bump heads like that, right, they
ain't been I don't know nobody else. Do focus on
what I do? Yeah, that's everybody. Don't get a burke in, right, Hey,
I say so, Like a couple of times somebody wants
to ask you for a breakin. He was like, hell, no, don't.
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I really only need to come out like ask me
for a breaking I don't talk, so it's kind of
harder like ask me for something. Relationship, you got kick it,
but we don't. We don't. We don't do too much
talking to the you know you gotta I'm certing. Sh up,
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we ain't gonna make it that far. Are you talking bad? No,
I'm like a little awkward sex quietly. Yeah, I don't
say too much. I'm focused. I'm trying. I'm trying to talk.
You don't even say you give her nothing. You tell
her you call the uber. I ain't never called a girl.
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I don't got uber and stuff like she needed that
stuff set up. She got to get her own car service. Ye. You,
I don't got that type of stuff. I just don't.
You got about a hundred cars, baby, I know you
can get somebody to drive home. He probably don't want
to put the address. I do all that type stuff.
I was saying, I ain't. I got my driver something.
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But I just don't don't use stuff, right, I get
it because then you gotta put your address, and then
they know and then they see where you're getting somebody
dripping or I will get somebody to sing your all right.
I see you getting into TV too, man. You co
produced with the show to BT The Impact Impact Atlanta.
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What got you getting into the TV now? Like we
got a new little film company? Yeah? What are your
baby moms on the show? Did you have any reservations
about putting her out there like that? I mean, I'm
not against whatever somebody want to do. It was an option.
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You talked about it before she did what I'm saying.
I mean, we brought out and she's a bit Jada
is a businesswoman, sure, and she seems like a great mom.
Great most we've seen you had a couple of shouts
of academic on the album It's only two run shot,
I thought it was on two songs. I thought the
song was huge and on the turning point record academic
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niggas that they can't get touched, meaning somebody who would
be on the computer all day. It wasn't really trolling,
wasn't add h him as an example. Man. But I
seen another interview he like rappers broke they least their
cards more money. To me, I never thought about it.
I never, never in my mind did I even think
to compare y'all financially time though, that's what I'm saying,
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Like you say me, that's all you said? Your name, Yeah,
a little baby right like all their cards least they oh,
they labeled this they he had like a breakdown. My son, See,
this is what pissed me out with my son showed
me something. My son showed me something he liked, like
what he got more money than us? Man, He asked
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that though he said it to you. He was just like,
pull it up and show me everything. I've seen the
titles about forty year cars. Now, I never had a
car on. You know, he doesn't wrap his you know,
people wrap the cars, you know, when you want to
wrap the cars. That's the difference. People don't know people
down all the card jobs like screen paint, Like man
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is that smart though his hands, he don't want to
do what I'm saying. The cars already de appreciate with
value right his cars they're like they like go up
or even though they did appreciate their like collect them. Yeah,
but they don't appreciate for the most part of cars.
Are you sure he said that, I don't doesn't even
see that. Academics me more money in a a little baby.
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I don't know if I said that. I know baby
said that on the record. Future though rappers, I don't
like that, you know what I like? I like that
people think rappers are broke because a lot of rappers
are broke. You are blessed. I think the majority of
artists I'm getting people to like benefit do like I
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don't under estimate people. I try to like overestimate people, right,
but this ups and downs too. Like there sometimes it's open.
Don't care how much money you get for sure, And
it's also how you financially handle your money, because sometimes
it takes a lot to figure out investing, making sure
that you're good. During the pandemic, a lot of people
did struggle because they didn't have things put up and save.
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So I think, but that that's across the board. That's
just not rappers, that's like anybody. Yeah, absolutely, but it's
just something about rappers. People got like a little because
rapper front the most, right, they floss the most, like
they talk about having the most image that people feel
like they have to. Now, I just like that you
call yourself a rapper because you got a lot of
people that I ain't no rapper on Muslim rapping it
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all the way artists, that's right, artists, man's see, that's right. Now.
You also said, God watch my friends. I can handle
my enemies right on, never hating. And so do you
feel like part of the reason why you're a lone
is that you've had a lot of things happen with
your friends because of the people that can betray you
the most, the people closest to you. It's crazy. I
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don't really get portrayed by my friends though, because you
kind of know people traits as the sun. So even
if they was to betray me, I kind of already
knew that I'd do that anyway, if you understand what
I'm saying. So like, I'm alone just because I'm alone
like I'm just used to being alone. I'm like kind
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of product, and I can't. I can't take you where
I'm taking my money. I can't show you where my
baby moms stay. I can't. So like that's why I've
always been like alone, because that's how I live. Like product,
do you feel like um in certain ways coming from
where you came from that you need to open up
more in certain situations. What you mean, like, let's just
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say going to events or maybe even befriending people and
having like interactions. It might not be a friendship, but
just being a little bit more open to those things,
right I would I wouldn't speak or nothing. You know
what I'm saying now, you know how trying to mean
And that's like a part of like for me, even
saying like I am a rapper, like not saying that
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I'm screaming like me thinking like you're screaming and ship
like I don't want to kick any stuff, but like
as a rapper and it's my job and needs to
my co workers, you know what I mean. I need
to mingle a little, got to be friends or whatnot.
But I still take the time to see if I'm
interested in something and I'm sure the more you grow
like you, you kind of just naturally distance yourself from
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people because there's folks who can't relate for sure. As
an executive, what type of relationships do you have with
artists that are you know that you want to sign
or that you work with? Um, I try to just
get I can keep a real relationship. I meaning like
I ain't gonna sugar color and I ain't gonna try
to make it sound what it ain't like. It is
what it is and everything on the table. That's that's
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the way I like to keep out of this ship.
Out of this ship, understood. I just artist, just pick.
Like you said, you get your advice with Mike Rubin,
what advice is as Mike ruve been giving you, that's
help you up. I'm crease your empire. He gave me
a lot of advice understand in a short period of time.
Like main advice would be like it'd be something simple
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about business that just we don't know could because when
into business, you know what I'm saying, it could be
like something real simple, like something simple simple you could
do a ten nine years change, like you get money,
you could clarify to care where you're gonna get the money,
and you could tell them what you're gonna buy, and
you could go on and buy it and then know
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how to pay taxes on it until you sell it
for forty years before you sit like simple stuff. But
definitely I got a lot of advice from on this album.
You talk about having dinner with Chris Jenner and somebody else.
Corey Gamble, Corey my main man, I just what's what's
the conversations? Like, Man, Corey, we're just kicking on some
(25:54):
like cool shit. I just s immaggen just because that's
a girl. Whatever, right, Yeah, y'all can now you connect
with them kind of people. Um, it's crazy because the
people are connect with really be onest and like real
shit Like it's the people who can you can have
like a courtire conversation with it and it don't be weird.
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You could just like feel like, damn, you're like me.
Thing like that. Sometimes you talk to somebody, it just
don't you just don't want you can laugh they laughing.
It just y'all don't really click. And sometimes you could
just talk and talk and talk and talk with the
person I love one the doc you know, a shoulder relationship,
of how you know, Pee and and Thug you know,
really really believed in you in a in a real way.
(26:37):
I think that was one of the most important takeaways
from the dock, Like if you believe in somebody, like
really pour into him. So so, so what that said,
you know, being at Thug's not here right now, how
did that? How does that impact you? Um, definitely impact man,
like you know, st my personal friend. So it's like
one of my friends being on tight situations, staning like
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gunna what I'm saying it's not my personal friend, Well,
you're gonna talking more than me and sign probably probably,
So that kind of definitely put me in a little
I don't even know how to explain it feeling, honest,
like a little uneasy feeling. Then like even just then,
it wouldn't make it so uneasiest because it's them, Like
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all right, and one of the guys go to gym,
so I feel a certain type of way. But like
with them, it's like you hear them everywhere, you see
their pigs like a reminder like, so it's kind of different.
You feel like it's an attack on the industry, especially
with the artists, Like you know, we've seen recently that
I don't think he's got nothing doing industry. It's just
not Atlanta. But in Atlanta. You feel like they're attacking
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artist in Atlanta because you look at Gunna and said
there was nothing violent in this case and they still
didn't know we talk, which seems wild like in any
other case they would let him go immediately. So does
it feel like it's an attack on rappers in Atlanta?
For sure? For sure? And you think that's due to what,
because I mean it's it's due to the y'all got out,
y'all making the rise of violence. I don't don't understand
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its people like them took working more, not in jail
to like and you stop the violet stuff like that,
Like yeah, I don't make sense because y'all providing an
opportunity and not even providing an opportunity. You just got
a voice, ye y'all wanted to. I feel like if
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if if y'all wanted to be like on something and
like imprisonate somebody something, I just make them do what
you want them to do, versus meaning like all right,
y'all got to go to hunting schools. They y'all got
to do this. So y'all got like making them do
something that askca change or better the community. If y'all
felt like somebody was doing something wrong, whatever the case
may be, versus like clean in jail. Yn't really I'm saying,
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I don't stopping. I saw a dog said, if you don't,
if you don't drop this album Friday, y'all ain't brothers
that it was a rule that you paid sixteen thousand
dollars to sleep with a porn star. And that's so untry,
so untry. I never paying I'm like, sixteen thousand to
do nothing. Where did that come from the star? Yeah? Yeah,
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not sie. I ain't no sucker. What's the most you
don't pay? I you ain't pay the cat. By the way,
it's indirect to we have you buy the bag, you
buy the flight, take them shot. I still even sixteen
that's a lot. I ain't doing it. I ain't just
fining you out to take your shop, ain't. I ain't. Yeah,
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I pay you to leave. What they say about hiring,
what's the most of the pay somebody to leave? Baby?
Coming down? When are you? You know what? I gotta go? Ha?
How quick I need you to leave? It depends on product. Man,
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we saw that video of you paying accidentally. I guess
you got charged two hundred and fifty thousand instead of
twenty five thousand. People were like, damn, he got it
because he was like crazy, like who would like? You
know what I'm saying. I just let the dude to
just keep two hundred and twenty five thousands. I knew
he was joking. He knew I was joking. Man, like,
maybe you were joking. I ain't gonna front. I'm like,
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that's They were like, you're not leaving here right now.
He made a mistake, so you don't even got the
store credit my car for two viny He just playing.
I know he was playing shit. The Internet got to
be a mind fucker, you know what I mean, because
the Internet believe whatever you want. If you learn that,
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you know, I don't run the internet, how much attention
do you pay to that stuff? Like right, because I
know I don't feel like you be online to a minimum.
I try to try my bag now to see a
lot of stuff. You know, I'm on the internet, so
I see a little stuff, but I ain't trying to
go shad, ain't you know coming. I ain't trying to
do that that's good. I don't think sometimes you people
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understand these these folks real life. They're dealing with them
because I feel like sometimes they talk about things online
they shouldn't be talking about, almost like wishing things on
people that they shouldn't be wishing things. I see people,
I see people, they say stuff they don't even believe,
but they just just coming. But somebody else could read
they got everything. I ain't into that. I don't really
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I try to stay away from that's oh a little cycle.
You check your dms though I don't know. I used
to m I don't know why you stop. You stop,
I just stopped checking be so big and shit. Now
he's just like, I ain't looking for them. I was
just thinking about how t Pain missed all of these
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dms from like, because I'm sure I'm missing a whole
I don't know. I'm your team ain't missing nothing, though
I'm sure you're probably not. Opportunities. I don't think opportunities
come in my DM like that. That's why I really
ain't looking anyway. But it'd be like brands and stuff
who will reach out to you. Pressure stuf too though
you know what I'm saying, Or like other other people.
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It could be somebody supporting me or something. It'd be
like stuff I really wish I would have seen, you
know what I'm saying something like that was their pressure
making this album because so many people have been putting
you on like the top rappers list and stuff. Later.
I don't think like that. I don't. I don't. It's
like why I put myself like. I don't put myself
as a top rapper list or the bottom rapper lists.
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I'm not on the list in my head. So I
just gotta do what I gotta do. That's it. So
I don't really be no pressure. For the only time
pressure colors weren't I do shit like get my label
a date, but then then we gotta get that we
got deadlines, but then it becomes pressure like that. But
as far as me making music still, I don't like
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no pressure on that. What's your process like in the
studio when it comes to you putting us on together?
Is it? Do you write to the beat and then
um or do you get like an idea first right
at home bring it to the studio. How do you
work that with people around you? I don't like people
in the studio with me these people handing me every day,
they never seen me rap before. Like I'm like a
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cat wrapper. Everybody go to sleep. I like sneaking rap.
You know what I'm saying. Why is that? I don't know.
It's just I feel comfortable. Wren't comfortable that way, and
I just listen to beats. The beat give me the
vibe when I if I hear the beat that I like,
and I'll just wrapped to it, like I don't write
a man like punching. Is that because early on that's
how you learned how to wrap. Probably it's probably just
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how it used to rap, because I used to only
go to the studio, like I want the clock any
morning to like clock in the morning something that everybody
usually sleeping stuff. So now I go to the studio
at one and everybody else be there on one, you know,
like everybody hang't out your studios. So but I'll go
to sleep, and then I wake up at like four
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or five where everybody going was up here. And see
when they did the record, they said that they all
to diverse and you were sleeping sleep. When I woke up,
everybody's gone. I heard the sound. I don't get. Yeah,
that's what they said your ceg on this album with
the back and Forth record. Detroit rappers are some of
your favorite people to collaborate with. It seemed like from
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Kentucky though, Wait from Tucky. Yeah, I don't know why
from from all your friends ain't around right now. Dug
get out of day though, Dug get out of there.
That's what it is. Ain't nobody knew that? I told
you why nobody announced everyday. You probably got other stuff
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going on too, though, But you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
this situation better. I think you gotta how're like nah,
like I ain't like half halfway? Do you stay in
contact with them like him thug? Yeah, okay, I try
to try to. I know how this shit get. Man.
You know, you can need help. It don't even matter
like any money here, Like you can just need shit.
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I try to like hit them up and they don't
need nothing. So you don't feel any guilt just because
you're out here, like you know, you see your man. Okay.
You know, I'm just saying when some of your men
call you from jail and you damn having such a
good guilt, But it ain't the right word. They're probably
not the right word not guilt. What's the word guilt?
Either for a feeling, like a feeling maybe maybe like
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uh nah, because I get it and they called, like
what you're doing? You know, we know we're turning the
fuck up. Ain't even gonna ship, you know what we're doing. Yeah, ship,
we're grown. Ain't like kids, and it's not like they're
gonna be in there forever they come out. Yeah, I
saw you with Stacey Abrams too. Right, do you feel
like you since you come from that environment that needs
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that kind of assistance, you know, how to have those
conversations with politicians in ways that they probably don't get
from other people. That's why I feel like I come
in and I come in that like it's like a
bridge from the hood to like on a politician though,
so like I don't want to be a politician or
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even get into politics, but I know that I understand
the hood or just say the minority, and then I
can understand what they're saying in politics, because we don't
know nothing about that and what I'm saying, we asked
the minority. I don't abody explaining politicians play this work.
Nobody don't really know that. Like if everybody in the community.
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Won't seething that happening. It can happen, Like we got
control of that, but nobody don't know that for real,
Like nobody to tell you, Hey, long story short is
I'm gonna I'm gonna help them figure it out. When
you're talking to people like Stacy, you know, if she
becomes governor, like what would you what resources would you
tell her? Like this is what we need in order
to make our communities better. I'm all for the kids.
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I feel like the kids control the community because older
people gonna die and the kid's gonna be older. He's
just gonna you know circus. So my focus be like
the youth, we get the problem, start with it you
and then you still helps it dus because anything we
get it youth doing. We still got to put ads
on in charge of this stuff. But I think it
would just start from the route. I mean, the youth.
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Do you vote? Definitely? Okay, that's important and that's what
I'm on too. I'm not even more on so like
kind of getting a politicist say with him, I'm with her,
or I just want people to vote to know that
if you do vote, it can't make a difference and
then one vote. I know you're like, my vote ain't
gonna matter, but it's like collectively, it's like if we
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could come together and with y'all vote, we really can
make a change. Absolutely, we can actually come up with
a law. Yeah I don't know that. We could come
up get somebody to sponsor it. You come up with
the idea. Now we gotta do it. Vote for people
don't know. It's like it's control for we can't win.
We do it right, and you can exercise your power
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by everybody coming together, Like if you like, we're gonna all,
I have a whole group of us. We're all gonna
put our power behind this candidate if we get these
things done. And that's how you make it happen. Yeah,
we ain't gonna hold you much longer because we know
you don't want to be here. But I do have
one more question. How do you control your gambling? Because
you see I always hear you rap about gambling. You
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see the documentary, We know you was a big gambler
more most people get more money and gamble more. How
do you control you're gambling habit? Well, I used to
be like a screet gamma, so I ain't even screet
no more so, I don't even got nobody to gamble.
I don't gamble with my friends like people I know.
I don't ain't go around. So I'm really good. But
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now I got like a casino that's like way worse
than screak. But I don't. I haven't woke up one
day and like I'm going to the casino. I'm dear,
no I gam but I'm really over that stage in
my life. How you good at walking away when you're up?
Or do you just how to do it right? Now?
That's how I've been winning, and I don't know how
to do that. Like if I went to two hundred thousds,
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I'm still trying to win a mill now, I'll just
be like I legit leave with a two hundred You
know this, dude, if you talk about losing but then
getting it back the same night, Yeah, like I didn't
been down million dollars man, all my money back in
the screet of the casino. Casino, Okay, we had we
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had men and all dice game before the screek. Though
I ain't never went down man screaked. I don't went
down and screak like two hundred thousand down to a
thousand and then got my two hundred back one night.
You always gamble with the always lose that. It's just
to lick every telly. See, I ain't gonna put them
out there like you run. It's he wanted. I can't
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for show him't got no him. He ain't no gambler
for real, Like I need somebody who's gonna I can't
lose five tenth thous. I don't want that. I'm trying
to like, fuck you up. Yeah, I'm trying. So when
you do, you know, usually when you when you bust
somebody down, you get him a little bit so he
could be happy on the way, pending on who it is, Yeah,
him a little bit like you do here you go, Yeah,
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depending on who it is and something. Some people be
like suckers, like they won't give me nothing bad. Yeah,
So you talk to them to the point where they
want to cry for sure, for sure, so they want
to fight, shoot whatever. That's that's my goal. They shouldn't
be They shouldn't be asked betting what you then don't.
They shouldn't bet what they don't got. I ain't got it, okay,
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Just nobody don't want to be what's the most somebody
don't hurt you for um, probably one time I lost,
like I don't know, and like two days to the
same person or just a couple of people. Yeah, like
in the house, it's a bad weekend. I gotta signed
it the next day. You gotta signed the next I
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gotta be the record there gonna sign. Do you refer
to gamble against Drake or me? Because they both seem
like their gambles, like like man meet and kind of
build a person relationship that I was telling y'all, like
gam with my friends, but Meet used to shouting that
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up on this ship. We didn't get them. But but Drake,
he won't. I won't to get them when he's like Drake,
he won't, he won't. I ain't saying they'd be scaring me,
but like stories and ship ain't like that. Drake more
like a casino gambler anyway, mh. Do you have to
tell somebody to stop? Like, look, I think we gotta
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people try to Like my people don't even tell me
to stop though, because because I'm like a comeback kid,
feel me like, so telling me to stop really gonna
piss me off because I could get my money back.
So like I kind of like the casino because I
get I'm with the credit line. I mean, let's say,
if I get a credit line for twenty thous, I'm
only gonna be able to lose twenty thous. So I first,
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it's like gambling in the street. You can lose everything
you got. You just keep going getting more and more.
Once you get to the casino and I get to
a certain match, it's like no other way for me
to get no more money now, Like I can't unless
like I can go to the bank nine times tens nighttime.
It's gonna be when I lose, It's just I'm done, Lece,
I go to sleep and wake up. I ain't gonna
wake up like I got to get my money back.
It's just gonna be yes today. All right, Well, let's
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get into a jil off down. What you want here?
What you want to play? Man? M hm, I'm only
never never hating, never hate it. All right, Well we'll
get into that. Baby. It's only me out right now.
I'm out right now. And I always want to say
thank you because every time I do it cost whatever
I need. You open up the doors and you allow
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me to ball you and use your car, so I
appreciate that. I just want to thank you for coming
doing an interview because I know it's gonna be a
point in your career where you ain't doing documentary to
appreciate it. Oh, absolutely absolutely, I know it's gonna be
a point where you ain't doing no more interviews, no more. Yeah,
it's being closer and closer yesterday. Yeah, my goodest little baby.
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It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy
were all the breakfast club. We got a special guest
in the building. Indeed, albums out right now, Little Baby,
welcome back, brother. So what's y'all doing. How are you
feeling this morning? Man? Good? We were just saying, it's
the most press we've ever seen a little Baby do
ever in life. You came a long tell me about it,
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interview everybody. It's still hard to get me doing. Now
what's the hardest Yeah, what's the hardest part about them? Now?
I still just don't like interviewed and now I like
talking about because and I watched it Invies, I'm like, da,
I wish I would have said that. I wish I
would ye. Now I feel like if I am going
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to do an interview, I'm trying to sell a little more.
And you got a lot going on, I think, even
just as far as in the world of activism, like
we talk about you in that space a lot too,
and I think originally you might not have thought about
yourself like that, but you can see that you are
somebody who is really active in the community. I saw
you talking about bringing arts to the schools with Jimmy
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Ivan and Doctor Dry. Of course, the bigger picture was
a huge deal when you put that song out for
people to feel like they could relate to you and
other positive things that you've been doing. Is that something
that you felt like, what something you wanted to do,
or was that just kind of came about without you
even thinking about it. It's something that I actually been
on my mind the whole time. Like so from from
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the beginning, I always knew like it's what I wanted
to do, or not even what I wanted to do.
What I've been doing far as a rapper up with
fiving maybe to man, I always like trying to take
care of my community and stuff. But then that's I
getting bigger. How how much you say I said take
care of my community or another thing you made doing
a million I wish I didn't hear that either something,
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but go ahead, So you said you've always wanted to
take care of it. I always want to take care
of my community. Stiff like that something. Now I'm in
a position and I could like help take care of
the world. Well, imagine question you are you wanted to
humanitarian award recently? Right for your contributions in your hometown.
But then you ain't gonna just went diamond for for
drip too hard? So which feels better or do they
feel the same? Which means more to you? Hemanitar? What
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mean more than me? You know what I'm saying? But
it record means a lot too. The oh yeah a lot,
but it's like two different fields. Yeah, all right, that
was a great music accompliment a little baby, and then
tearing war was a great accompliment. Yeah, your family probably
cares about one more, right, and your mom like, oh
humanitarian a ward apparently understand you have a really understand
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the influence you have with these kids, Like you know
where you're from, of course your neighborhood. You're a huge
influence because they see somebody who made it. But then
when you travel this world, in this country and even overseas,
how much these kids really follow you and love you?
And does that ever hit you? Yeah? Definitely a lot.
And do you feel like you have to live up
to a certain way of living because you got these
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kids following it all the time. I try how to
say certain stuff, I try how to post a certain stuff,
and like I know, for in fact and not even
just all the other kids because I think about them,
but my kids like they do everything I do, so
I had to like be honest. So they helped me
for like the other kids too, because you got the
new album. It's only me with the album covered with
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all your faces on the Mount Rushmore break that down. Um,
you know, I like, I guess at the time I
made an album cover is just like people probably in
them that Mount Rushmore stage and posting. Everybody put their
own pitches and stuff, so I just thinking, like I'm
gonna just use my face follow them, um um. Ashley
(03:55):
man Cash from the eight So we came up with
the idea thinking about it too because it's like your
first generation millionaire in your family, so that that title
probably reflects your personal life too, right, Well, I ain't
really like think about it like in my personal life,
but it's more so on the fact of like I
don't really worry about nobody else. I'm only focused on me,
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So it's like most or something like that. I would say,
you're one of the very few artists that have been
has super super success but still do records with a
lot of people, still fun with a lot of artists.
It's almost like you still challenge yourself to see if
you can challenge them a lot of times when when
when rappers get to a certain part in their life,
they don't want to do records with certain people, or
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it's about the number what you or the course of
the price. But what you I see you do that
a lot more. Why is that? Um? It's just basically
like number one ain't no hater and number two. I
feel like it's a it's a it's a team sport,
just like it is like everybody's solo artists as a team.
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I feel like we do more because you'll do an
you'll do an artist of course with you know, with
this artist with which is known, Like you do a
record with Doug or with Gunner, right, that's family. But
then you'll do a sleazy but then you do ice
with Vessel, But then you do this one. Like it
seems like you like the competitive sport of it for sure.
Definitely Vessel QC. Right now, But you got twenty three
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songs on this album. No, you only got about six
or seven rap features though you kept them low for reason.
What do you mean that was a lot think for
twenty three three songs? Now it would be a feature
on every song, feel like from these rappers. I feel
like seven was a lot. Okay, okay, why I'm twenty
three songs too? That's a lot. And I know it's
been a while people have That's the reason I put
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out a lot because i't so they say I plan
on dropping again like nine ten minutes something. I want
to have twenty three songs song. But since I ain't
dropping like almost two years, I just like it. But
why was it so long? Was it because those other
records were still ringing and still top new records? Well?
I think because COVID kind of like I dropped my
last album, like right, folks, So I was like a
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year that I wasn't gonna drop none or even a
year and a half, and just like coming out of COVID,
trying to get my cell together, get back to working
stuff like that. This had a different title first two right,
originally I ain't never had no time at first? Okay,
how did they convince you to do a documentary? Man?
Because he seemed like you're very private. How did you
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beat you to do a doctor? It really wasn't It
really wasn't right. But what you mean meaning like they
had a cameraman for like four five months. I don't
let him come with me, like two or three times,
you do know, you were wrapper down, like like I
get it what you're doing with nobody? He was like,
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who did dude with this boy? Oh? He's young too. Still,
you know, I might be on the phone time to somebody.
I don't know. It's just my person in space. You
had to be in a house, that your house, me
and my children, stuff like that. But now I look
at that document, I kind of wish I would have
let him come with me a little more because streets,
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you like, it's your career, it's your life. You gotta
be like squeez stuff though, Like ain't like I don't
want a round because we might do something just I
just ain't comfortable with. Yeah, I feel record me. Did
you know what he was there for? I don't. But
it's like natural. So it's like you just record all day,
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I'm saying, or whenever you pick the phone or I
ain't really fun in that. Yeah, but like even being
in the studio or doing a show, that's a good
time to film stuff, just to see the business aspect
of things, right, And when it came to negotiating. Like
I saw before you were talking about how you get
three hundred and fifty thousand dollars for a feature now,
and I remember previously you had said it was like hundred, yeah,
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one hundred thousand, So um, when people are asking you
for features, you just tell them it's three fifty. Like
I really only do features no more. I ain't in
that space right now because people getting afford them, people
could afford them. People called I turned her right, two
three features a day. Damn yeah, probably two fifty, I'm saying.
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I ain't say three fitty either. I said like three
hundred to two fifty. Maybe I even take two hundred,
But I ain't really I ain't trying to do it.
So if you want me to do it, I got
a fee. What makes you during the reason for turning
them down? I ain't really trying to do them, but
like just because you have your project out or you
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just don't. Yeah, maybe because like like recently, I've been
working on my project and I already had enough features
out and I knew you need to least drop a project.
I just keep doing feature So I just didn't want
to do them. Who's the one person you haven't worked
with that. You would love to get in the studio
with and and go back and forth with Really three stacks?
Have you reached out to them more? Yeah? I actually
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could have been on an album for sure. He's send
him the song like, but I didn't feel like I
had the one for them. I really want to, like
you know that would versus like sending him the song.
He was an outcast fan of course grown up. No,
not really really, I like too young for that, But
I mean, of course, of course I'm a fan of
under thy Thousand. I'm saying once I got like older
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and I went to like the bad story and stuff.
But growing up I knew they like big songs. I want,
like I had to get an album, I just look
under thoth thouans. But I love how the Doctor you
showed how I'm not getting the nomination for my Turn
for the Grammy impacted you. But what did you do
creatively around that time? After that? And I know you
did the performance, but how did that affect how you
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approach this? Up? It? Then? I don't really think about
stuff like that. Honestly, I ain't never gonna be like,
I gotta get me a Grammy out of it. I
don't think I'm ever gonna be like that. What is
important to you when you put together a project and
they do well, you know what I'm saying That also
that they do well for a long period of time, Like,
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that's what it matters to me. I wanted to stick.
That's how I really care about. I only care about
first week normous like all that type of style. I
wanted to stick. You know. You know, you're at the
point now where you've been winning so much they're waiting
on you to feel see that. Yeah, it's like, no
matter what you put out, they're gonna be like it
ain't ye. But that comes with the territory, you know that.
(10:21):
I guess so because I saw this video the other day.
Alan obviously was saying, I told Lebron, they love you now,
but eventually they're gonna hate you. It just comes with it. Though.
Oh yeah, they they've been Yeah, they've been that long
time ago. But it don't matter because he keep winning
and he keeps doing the thing right. How do you
handle that when you see when you see things people
saying like, oh I don't like that, I don't like
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that record. Uh baby could have can't hard enough. I
just keep working. I gotta do. Everybody that's not gonna
not like it, everybody entire their own opinion. Do you
listen to your old music? I do? And so when
you reflect, like even looking at this album cover and
you look at the space that you were in in
each one of those pictures, what are your thoughts about,
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like your growth as an artist, not even just my
music or anybody music. When I hear it, I automatically
go back to like the time I was at when
I like remember playing a song a lot, So I
don't ready just look at look at the album covern,
think about the time I was at something. But different
songs on the album put me back in the spot
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from the last two years when I've been making a song,
because some of the songs from like two and a
half years ago then someone kind of recent. Were you
afraid to reveal so much about yourself in the documentary? No,
because I don't feel like I just reveal everything, right,
So maybe the documentary was like, well teaser to me then,
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like I mean, you know what they're anges tell like
this this day I gave like major power points to
get you to understand the story. But even really like
a right down to my life, like I told you
how what I did and stuff, and ain't like getting
the details and I could have really gotten in details.
Do you own with everything that's going on in the world, right,
do you move differently? The reason I ask is, you know,
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when I talk to other DJs, whether it's in other
cities and other markets, but like now, a little baby
was saying, I was talking to somebody in La there
was like Noah, a little baby came to the club
by himself. It was just him and look outside. No now,
But what do you mean differently now because of what's
going on in the world and recession and you know
what's happening with everybody or what's what's your mind frame
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with that? All the way earnestly all the way I'm
on that. What you say i'd be by myself, you
would think i'd beat like I know, I'm going somewhere,
I'm with a lot of people. But when I just
go somewhere on my leisure, most of the time, I
myself and I hate secure. But p Ma sh Yes
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is right. He is absolutely right. And you shouldn't be
sliding by yourself nowhere either because man, mother fucker's crazy.
Out of the story I heard about it, La, They said,
a little babies crazy, A little babies comfortable. They said,
don't worry, I'm good. I ain't saying nothing can't happen
to you think I'm saying like so like what I'm saying, like, man,
I want to live in my life. Yeah, you work
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something though, you know Forty told me one time you said, Man,
when you work something, you gotta protect it. You gotta
protect it. But I ain't gonna just be at no where,
Lola yagging man me like I'm I'm not being do
what I gotta do. Get on even sometimes a lot
of people be a headache, should be stretched. Sometime I
just want to put my hoodie on. Then sometimes if
you know me, you know me, you know me like
I know how to I could come in the room
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when y'all y'all want to know a man feel me like,
I don't gotta be loud. I could be by myself. Look,
I might don't even I don't know drip Like, yeah,
we've seen video. I've seen the video. You slide into
the store by yourself. One timebody was open the video. Okay,
actually somebody was in the car. Oh, I was walking out,
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but I did go and stow by myself though that
We've seen your interview with with Loony and Loony, and
he said, I think in the interview said now you're
you're into skinny girls. You're not. You're not mad at
just talking to kicking it to skinny girls, right? What
made you start liking skinny girls? I don't know. At first,
I just like like a previce. I just like, I
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like thick girls. Say you like thin girl now, I
just like, I don't know. I think I'm on my
supermodel phase. So all your thick girls got into your
d ms and started texting you like fuck you. Nah,
I ain't saying I don't like thick girls. I like girls. Now.
You got a couple of records for the ladies on
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this on this project, what's the joint called? Uh? What
was it? What was what? I forgot? Which one? It was? Forever? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
yeah Friday feature Friday? Who was that to somebody too?
We kind of fucked up on it. I already had
a song Ain't for Ever on another project. I ain't
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catch the last project. Yeah, well wine, different type of
record though. Yeah. But when he had the same song,
changing your girl's name that you wrote it about. You
can tell ain't any about it? Girl? Something you talking
about a girl on that record? Maybe seven girls? Oh
so okay, all right, every particularly, It's just I when
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I rapped, I kind of speak in general. I try
to say stuff that could go to like anybody's situation.
I don't really got to be my situation, but it
could be something that I went through that I know
everybody go through. You know what I'm saying. So anyway,
just like try to sing to one girl or like
sing to a personal because I know I got an audience,
so I try to make it like, well, talk about
stuff I know everybody go through. Yeah, so you're just
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wrapping it's it's entertainment. So how do you How do
you feel about them trying to use lyrics in court
now days? I hate that sure that you think you
could love more than one girl at a time. UM,
be careful how you answer this. Probably not, probably not.
I mean you can have a love for everybody, but
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in love, I don't think I could be in love
with two people at one time. I think I'm one
of the lyricism. I got a lot for you, but
you got a little for you. You could be with
a woman who was with other men too, like you said,
we could, we could share her or whatever. That's fine
with you, because you're not ready to settle down, right,
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So you don't expect somebody to be committed to you
if you're not committed to them exactly, all right, that's
open minded. Some people feel like they don't. I'm with you.
I don't want you to be with anybody else. Did
you used to be like that? Ain't on it, ain't
on it like I do. Only make sense. I ain't selfish. No,
no kind of way that'll be selfish me. You ever
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had a guy hit you up about you messing with
this girl I'm messing with and try to confront you.
How do you handle something like that? What's the conversation?
Like he missed a little baby? Can you please stop
knocking down my girl? Yeah, you don't have those I
had like that? It should be wow, give me one
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more time next week. Sent it back home December, December,
you get it back into something. It's just a year
at least. I don't know. I feel like he went
in towel, like he's you know. I feel like you
gotta have those conversations, especially when you're dealing with two
brothers with money, because you might be doing stuff for
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her financially and he might be doing it. They don't
need you. All the bump heads like that, right, they
ain't been I don't know nobody else. Do focus on
what I do? Yeah, that's everybody. Don't get a burke in, right, Hey,
I say so, Like a couple of times somebody wants
to ask you for a breakin. He was like, hell, no, don't.
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I really only need to come out like ask me
for a breaking I don't talk, so it's kind of
harder like ask me for something. Relationship, you got kick it,
but we don't. We don't. We don't do too much
talking to the you know you gotta I'm certing. Sh up,
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we ain't gonna make it that far. Are you talking bad? No,
I'm like a little awkward sex quietly. Yeah, I don't
say too much. I'm focused. I'm trying. I'm trying to talk.
You don't even say you give her nothing. You tell
her you call the uber. I ain't never called a girl.
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I don't got uber and stuff like she needed that
stuff set up. She got to get her own car service. Ye. You,
I don't got that type of stuff. I just don't.
You got about a hundred cars, baby, I know you
can get somebody to drive home. He probably don't want
to put the address. I do all that type stuff.
I was saying, I ain't. I got my driver something.
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But I just don't don't use stuff, right, I get
it because then you gotta put your address, and then
they know and then they see where you're getting somebody
dripping or I will get somebody to sing your all right.
I see you getting into TV too, man. You co
produced with the show to BT The Impact Impact Atlanta.
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What got you getting into the TV now? Like we
got a new little film company? Yeah? What are your
baby moms on the show? Did you have any reservations
about putting her out there like that? I mean, I'm
not against whatever somebody want to do. It was an option.
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You talked about it before she did what I'm saying.
I mean, we brought out and she's a bit Jada
is a businesswoman, sure, and she seems like a great mom.
Great most we've seen you had a couple of shouts
of academic on the album It's only two run shot,
I thought it was on two songs. I thought the
song was huge and on the turning point record academic
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niggas that they can't get touched, meaning somebody who would
be on the computer all day. It wasn't really trolling,
wasn't add h him as an example. Man. But I
seen another interview he like rappers broke they least their
cards more money. To me, I never thought about it.
I never, never in my mind did I even think
to compare y'all financially time though, that's what I'm saying,
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Like you say me, that's all you said? Your name, Yeah,
a little baby right like all their cards least they oh,
they labeled this they he had like a breakdown. My son, See,
this is what pissed me out with my son showed
me something. My son showed me something he liked, like
what he got more money than us? Man, He asked
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that though he said it to you. He was just like,
pull it up and show me everything. I've seen the
titles about forty year cars. Now, I never had a
car on. You know, he doesn't wrap his you know,
people wrap the cars, you know, when you want to
wrap the cars. That's the difference. People don't know people
down all the card jobs like screen paint, Like man
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is that smart though his hands, he don't want to
do what I'm saying. The cars already de appreciate with
value right his cars they're like they like go up
or even though they did appreciate their like collect them. Yeah,
but they don't appreciate for the most part of cars.
Are you sure he said that, I don't doesn't even
see that. Academics me more money in a a little baby.
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I don't know if I said that. I know baby
said that on the record. Future though rappers, I don't
like that, you know what I like? I like that
people think rappers are broke because a lot of rappers
are broke. You are blessed. I think the majority of
artists I'm getting people to like benefit do like I
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don't under estimate people. I try to like overestimate people, right,
but this ups and downs too. Like there sometimes it's open.
Don't care how much money you get for sure, And
it's also how you financially handle your money, because sometimes
it takes a lot to figure out investing, making sure
that you're good. During the pandemic, a lot of people
did struggle because they didn't have things put up and save.
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So I think, but that that's across the board. That's
just not rappers, that's like anybody. Yeah, absolutely, but it's
just something about rappers. People got like a little because
rapper front the most, right, they floss the most, like
they talk about having the most image that people feel
like they have to. Now, I just like that you
call yourself a rapper because you got a lot of
people that I ain't no rapper on Muslim rapping it
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all the way artists, that's right, artists, man's see, that's right. Now.
You also said, God watch my friends. I can handle
my enemies right on, never hating. And so do you
feel like part of the reason why you're a lone
is that you've had a lot of things happen with
your friends because of the people that can betray you
the most, the people closest to you. It's crazy. I
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don't really get portrayed by my friends though, because you
kind of know people traits as the sun. So even
if they was to betray me, I kind of already
knew that I'd do that anyway, if you understand what
I'm saying. So like, I'm alone just because I'm alone
like I'm just used to being alone. I'm like kind
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of product, and I can't. I can't take you where
I'm taking my money. I can't show you where my
baby moms stay. I can't. So like that's why I've
always been like alone, because that's how I live. Like product,
do you feel like um in certain ways coming from
where you came from that you need to open up
more in certain situations. What you mean, like, let's just
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say going to events or maybe even befriending people and
having like interactions. It might not be a friendship, but
just being a little bit more open to those things,
right I would I wouldn't speak or nothing. You know
what I'm saying now, you know how trying to mean
And that's like a part of like for me, even
saying like I am a rapper, like not saying that
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I'm screaming like me thinking like you're screaming and ship
like I don't want to kick any stuff, but like
as a rapper and it's my job and needs to
my co workers, you know what I mean. I need
to mingle a little, got to be friends or whatnot.
But I still take the time to see if I'm
interested in something and I'm sure the more you grow
like you, you kind of just naturally distance yourself from
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people because there's folks who can't relate for sure. As
an executive, what type of relationships do you have with
artists that are you know that you want to sign
or that you work with? Um, I try to just
get I can keep a real relationship. I meaning like
I ain't gonna sugar color and I ain't gonna try
to make it sound what it ain't like. It is
what it is and everything on the table. That's that's
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the way I like to keep out of this ship.
Out of this ship, understood. I just artist, just pick.
Like you said, you get your advice with Mike Rubin,
what advice is as Mike ruve been giving you, that's
help you up. I'm crease your empire. He gave me
a lot of advice understand in a short period of time.
Like main advice would be like it'd be something simple
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about business that just we don't know could because when
into business, you know what I'm saying, it could be
like something real simple, like something simple simple you could
do a ten nine years change, like you get money,
you could clarify to care where you're gonna get the money,
and you could tell them what you're gonna buy, and
you could go on and buy it and then know
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how to pay taxes on it until you sell it
for forty years before you sit like simple stuff. But
definitely I got a lot of advice from on this album.
You talk about having dinner with Chris Jenner and somebody else.
Corey Gamble, Corey my main man, I just what's what's
the conversations? Like, Man, Corey, we're just kicking on some
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like cool shit. I just s immaggen just because that's
a girl. Whatever, right, Yeah, y'all can now you connect
with them kind of people. Um, it's crazy because the
people are connect with really be onest and like real
shit Like it's the people who can you can have
like a courtire conversation with it and it don't be weird.
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You could just like feel like, damn, you're like me.
Thing like that. Sometimes you talk to somebody, it just
don't you just don't want you can laugh they laughing.
It just y'all don't really click. And sometimes you could
just talk and talk and talk and talk with the
person I love one the doc you know, a shoulder relationship,
of how you know, Pee and and Thug you know,
really really believed in you in a in a real way.
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I think that was one of the most important takeaways
from the dock, Like if you believe in somebody, like
really pour into him. So so, so what that said,
you know, being at Thug's not here right now, how
did that? How does that impact you? Um, definitely impact man,
like you know, st my personal friend. So it's like
one of my friends being on tight situations, staning like
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gunna what I'm saying it's not my personal friend, Well,
you're gonna talking more than me and sign probably probably,
So that kind of definitely put me in a little
I don't even know how to explain it feeling, honest,
like a little uneasy feeling. Then like even just then,
it wouldn't make it so uneasiest because it's them, Like
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all right, and one of the guys go to gym,
so I feel a certain type of way. But like
with them, it's like you hear them everywhere, you see
their pigs like a reminder like, so it's kind of different.
You feel like it's an attack on the industry, especially
with the artists, Like you know, we've seen recently that
I don't think he's got nothing doing industry. It's just
not Atlanta. But in Atlanta. You feel like they're attacking
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artist in Atlanta because you look at Gunna and said
there was nothing violent in this case and they still
didn't know we talk, which seems wild like in any
other case they would let him go immediately. So does
it feel like it's an attack on rappers in Atlanta?
For sure? For sure? And you think that's due to what,
because I mean it's it's due to the y'all got out,
y'all making the rise of violence. I don't don't understand
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its people like them took working more, not in jail
to like and you stop the violet stuff like that,
Like yeah, I don't make sense because y'all providing an
opportunity and not even providing an opportunity. You just got
a voice, ye y'all wanted to. I feel like if
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if if y'all wanted to be like on something and
like imprisonate somebody something, I just make them do what
you want them to do, versus meaning like all right,
y'all got to go to hunting schools. They y'all got
to do this. So y'all got like making them do
something that askca change or better the community. If y'all
felt like somebody was doing something wrong, whatever the case
may be, versus like clean in jail. Yn't really I'm saying,
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I don't stopping. I saw a dog said, if you don't,
if you don't drop this album Friday, y'all ain't brothers
that it was a rule that you paid sixteen thousand
dollars to sleep with a porn star. And that's so untry,
so untry. I never paying I'm like, sixteen thousand to
do nothing. Where did that come from the star? Yeah? Yeah,
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not sie. I ain't no sucker. What's the most you
don't pay? I you ain't pay the cat. By the way,
it's indirect to we have you buy the bag, you
buy the flight, take them shot. I still even sixteen
that's a lot. I ain't doing it. I ain't just
fining you out to take your shop, ain't. I ain't. Yeah,
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I pay you to leave. What they say about hiring,
what's the most of the pay somebody to leave? Baby?
Coming down? When are you? You know what? I gotta go? Ha?
How quick I need you to leave? It depends on product. Man,
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we saw that video of you paying accidentally. I guess
you got charged two hundred and fifty thousand instead of
twenty five thousand. People were like, damn, he got it
because he was like crazy, like who would like? You
know what I'm saying. I just let the dude to
just keep two hundred and twenty five thousands. I knew
he was joking. He knew I was joking. Man, like,
maybe you were joking. I ain't gonna front. I'm like,
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that's They were like, you're not leaving here right now.
He made a mistake, so you don't even got the
store credit my car for two viny He just playing.
I know he was playing shit. The Internet got to
be a mind fucker, you know what I mean, because
the Internet believe whatever you want. If you learn that,
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you know, I don't run the internet, how much attention
do you pay to that stuff? Like right, because I
know I don't feel like you be online to a minimum.
I try to try my bag now to see a
lot of stuff. You know, I'm on the internet, so
I see a little stuff, but I ain't trying to
go shad, ain't you know coming. I ain't trying to
do that that's good. I don't think sometimes you people
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understand these these folks real life. They're dealing with them
because I feel like sometimes they talk about things online
they shouldn't be talking about, almost like wishing things on
people that they shouldn't be wishing things. I see people,
I see people, they say stuff they don't even believe,
but they just just coming. But somebody else could read
they got everything. I ain't into that. I don't really
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I try to stay away from that's oh a little cycle.
You check your dms though I don't know. I used
to m I don't know why you stop. You stop,
I just stopped checking be so big and shit. Now
he's just like, I ain't looking for them. I was
just thinking about how t Pain missed all of these
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dms from like, because I'm sure I'm missing a whole
I don't know. I'm your team ain't missing nothing, though
I'm sure you're probably not. Opportunities. I don't think opportunities
come in my DM like that. That's why I really
ain't looking anyway. But it'd be like brands and stuff
who will reach out to you. Pressure stuf too though
you know what I'm saying, Or like other other people.
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It could be somebody supporting me or something. It'd be
like stuff I really wish I would have seen, you
know what I'm saying something like that was their pressure
making this album because so many people have been putting
you on like the top rappers list and stuff. Later.
I don't think like that. I don't. I don't. It's
like why I put myself like. I don't put myself
as a top rapper list or the bottom rapper lists.
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I'm not on the list in my head. So I
just gotta do what I gotta do. That's it. So
I don't really be no pressure. For the only time
pressure colors weren't I do shit like get my label
a date, but then then we gotta get that we
got deadlines, but then it becomes pressure like that. But
as far as me making music still, I don't like
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no pressure on that. What's your process like in the
studio when it comes to you putting us on together?
Is it? Do you write to the beat and then
um or do you get like an idea first right
at home bring it to the studio. How do you
work that with people around you? I don't like people
in the studio with me these people handing me every day,
they never seen me rap before. Like I'm like a
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cat wrapper. Everybody go to sleep. I like sneaking rap.
You know what I'm saying. Why is that? I don't know.
It's just I feel comfortable. Wren't comfortable that way, and
I just listen to beats. The beat give me the
vibe when I if I hear the beat that I like,
and I'll just wrapped to it, like I don't write
a man like punching. Is that because early on that's
how you learned how to wrap. Probably it's probably just
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how it used to rap, because I used to only
go to the studio, like I want the clock any
morning to like clock in the morning something that everybody
usually sleeping stuff. So now I go to the studio
at one and everybody else be there on one, you know,
like everybody hang't out your studios. So but I'll go
to sleep, and then I wake up at like four
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or five where everybody going was up here. And see
when they did the record, they said that they all
to diverse and you were sleeping sleep. When I woke up,
everybody's gone. I heard the sound. I don't get. Yeah,
that's what they said your ceg on this album with
the back and Forth record. Detroit rappers are some of
your favorite people to collaborate with. It seemed like from
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Kentucky though, Wait from Tucky. Yeah, I don't know why
from from all your friends ain't around right now. Dug
get out of day though, Dug get out of there.
That's what it is. Ain't nobody knew that? I told
you why nobody announced everyday. You probably got other stuff
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going on too, though, But you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
this situation better. I think you gotta how're like nah,
like I ain't like half halfway? Do you stay in
contact with them like him thug? Yeah, okay, I try
to try to. I know how this shit get. Man.
You know, you can need help. It don't even matter
like any money here, Like you can just need shit.
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I try to like hit them up and they don't
need nothing. So you don't feel any guilt just because
you're out here, like you know, you see your man. Okay.
You know, I'm just saying when some of your men
call you from jail and you damn having such a
good guilt, But it ain't the right word. They're probably
not the right word not guilt. What's the word guilt?
Either for a feeling, like a feeling maybe maybe like
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uh nah, because I get it and they called, like
what you're doing? You know, we know we're turning the
fuck up. Ain't even gonna ship, you know what we're doing. Yeah, ship,
we're grown. Ain't like kids, and it's not like they're
gonna be in there forever they come out. Yeah, I
saw you with Stacey Abrams too. Right, do you feel
like you since you come from that environment that needs
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that kind of assistance, you know, how to have those
conversations with politicians in ways that they probably don't get
from other people. That's why I feel like I come
in and I come in that like it's like a
bridge from the hood to like on a politician though,
so like I don't want to be a politician or
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even get into politics, but I know that I understand
the hood or just say the minority, and then I
can understand what they're saying in politics, because we don't
know nothing about that and what I'm saying, we asked
the minority. I don't abody explaining politicians play this work.
Nobody don't really know that. Like if everybody in the community.
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Won't seething that happening. It can happen, Like we got
control of that, but nobody don't know that for real,
Like nobody to tell you, Hey, long story short is
I'm gonna I'm gonna help them figure it out. When
you're talking to people like Stacy, you know, if she
becomes governor, like what would you what resources would you
tell her? Like this is what we need in order
to make our communities better. I'm all for the kids.
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I feel like the kids control the community because older
people gonna die and the kid's gonna be older. He's
just gonna you know circus. So my focus be like
the youth, we get the problem, start with it you
and then you still helps it dus because anything we
get it youth doing. We still got to put ads
on in charge of this stuff. But I think it
would just start from the route. I mean, the youth.
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Do you vote? Definitely? Okay, that's important and that's what
I'm on too. I'm not even more on so like
kind of getting a politicist say with him, I'm with her,
or I just want people to vote to know that
if you do vote, it can't make a difference and
then one vote. I know you're like, my vote ain't
gonna matter, but it's like collectively, it's like if we
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could come together and with y'all vote, we really can
make a change. Absolutely, we can actually come up with
a law. Yeah I don't know that. We could come
up get somebody to sponsor it. You come up with
the idea. Now we gotta do it. Vote for people
don't know. It's like it's control for we can't win.
We do it right, and you can exercise your power
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by everybody coming together, Like if you like, we're gonna all,
I have a whole group of us. We're all gonna
put our power behind this candidate if we get these
things done. And that's how you make it happen. Yeah,
we ain't gonna hold you much longer because we know
you don't want to be here. But I do have
one more question. How do you control your gambling? Because
you see I always hear you rap about gambling. You
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see the documentary, We know you was a big gambler
more most people get more money and gamble more. How
do you control you're gambling habit? Well, I used to
be like a screet gamma, so I ain't even screet
no more so, I don't even got nobody to gamble.
I don't gamble with my friends like people I know.
I don't ain't go around. So I'm really good. But
(38:59):
now I got like a casino that's like way worse
than screak. But I don't. I haven't woke up one
day and like I'm going to the casino. I'm dear,
no I gam but I'm really over that stage in
my life. How you good at walking away when you're up?
Or do you just how to do it right? Now?
That's how I've been winning, and I don't know how
to do that. Like if I went to two hundred thousds,
(39:20):
I'm still trying to win a mill now, I'll just
be like I legit leave with a two hundred You
know this, dude, if you talk about losing but then
getting it back the same night, Yeah, like I didn't
been down million dollars man, all my money back in
the screet of the casino. Casino, Okay, we had we
(39:40):
had men and all dice game before the screek. Though
I ain't never went down man screaked. I don't went
down and screak like two hundred thousand down to a
thousand and then got my two hundred back one night.
You always gamble with the always lose that. It's just
to lick every telly. See, I ain't gonna put them
out there like you run. It's he wanted. I can't
(40:07):
for show him't got no him. He ain't no gambler
for real, Like I need somebody who's gonna I can't
lose five tenth thous. I don't want that. I'm trying
to like, fuck you up. Yeah, I'm trying. So when
you do, you know, usually when you when you bust
somebody down, you get him a little bit so he
could be happy on the way, pending on who it is, Yeah,
him a little bit like you do here you go, Yeah,
(40:27):
depending on who it is and something. Some people be
like suckers, like they won't give me nothing bad. Yeah,
So you talk to them to the point where they
want to cry for sure, for sure, so they want
to fight, shoot whatever. That's that's my goal. They shouldn't
be They shouldn't be asked betting what you then don't.
They shouldn't bet what they don't got. I ain't got it, okay,
(40:49):
Just nobody don't want to be what's the most somebody
don't hurt you for um, probably one time I lost,
like I don't know, and like two days to the
same person or just a couple of people. Yeah, like
in the house, it's a bad weekend. I gotta signed
it the next day. You gotta signed the next I
(41:12):
gotta be the record there gonna sign. Do you refer
to gamble against Drake or me? Because they both seem
like their gambles, like like man meet and kind of
build a person relationship that I was telling y'all, like
gam with my friends, but Meet used to shouting that
(41:32):
up on this ship. We didn't get them. But but Drake,
he won't. I won't to get them when he's like Drake,
he won't, he won't. I ain't saying they'd be scaring me,
but like stories and ship ain't like that. Drake more
like a casino gambler anyway, mh. Do you have to
tell somebody to stop? Like, look, I think we gotta
(41:56):
people try to Like my people don't even tell me
to stop though, because because I'm like a comeback kid,
feel me like, so telling me to stop really gonna
piss me off because I could get my money back.
So like I kind of like the casino because I
get I'm with the credit line. I mean, let's say,
if I get a credit line for twenty thous, I'm
only gonna be able to lose twenty thous. So I first,
(42:19):
it's like gambling in the street. You can lose everything
you got. You just keep going getting more and more.
Once you get to the casino and I get to
a certain match, it's like no other way for me
to get no more money now, Like I can't unless
like I can go to the bank nine times tens nighttime.
It's gonna be when I lose, It's just I'm done, Lece,
I go to sleep and wake up. I ain't gonna
wake up like I got to get my money back.
It's just gonna be yes today. All right, Well, let's
(42:41):
get into a jil off down. What you want here?
What you want to play? Man? M hm, I'm only
never never hating, never hate it. All right, Well we'll
get into that. Baby. It's only me out right now.
I'm out right now. And I always want to say
thank you because every time I do it cost whatever
I need. You open up the doors and you allow
(43:03):
me to ball you and use your car, so I
appreciate that. I just want to thank you for coming
doing an interview because I know it's gonna be a
point in your career where you ain't doing documentary to
appreciate it. Oh, absolutely absolutely, I know it's gonna be
a point where you ain't doing no more interviews, no more. Yeah,
it's being closer and closer yesterday. Yeah, my goodest little baby.
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