January 2, 2025 • 32 mins
Pollster John Mclaughlin on just why Biden lost the election and what Republicans can learn from this past election.
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to one, Shawn open Line Thursday. Yes it is Thursday,
and now it's all off kilter. During this Christmas lash,
New Year's Break where the holidays are in the middle
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are working. Many of you, hopefully you're still off where
you get like the seventeen day vacation basically starting on
Christmas all the way through January Seventh's that's not a
bad deal when these holidays fall in the middle of
the week. Anyway, Let's bring in Jimmy Fala. He is
the host of Fox Across America, a very active comedian
on tour as well, and we seems like he has
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a gig going every weekend. And Jimmy, why we working?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
What? What? What?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
What led us to this moment?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Some of us weren't as lucky betting the College Bowl
games as others.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Uh, that's true.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
No, I'm actually I'm in I'm in good shape right now.
And uh, I'm with you, Kanca. I got to host
a Saturday night TV show, so I had to show
up today and start putting together a comedy show in
the aftermath of two terror attacks and another another subway pusher,
who's ready for some comedy?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I mean, seriously, a comedy is much harder to do
than the serious stuff, right, and that's why it always
bothers me that we never have a good comedy ever.
Be up for an actor, be up for best you know,
best actor for example, like from There's Something About Mary.
Would you give that to Ben Steller? I would consider it?
Or Cameron Diaz was great in that as well, that's
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like the first movie that popped into my mind. Or
Bill Murray and Stripes, like they're never considered when when
you're giving out the awards, are they.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Well, Ben Steeller should have won an Oscar for acting
in that Commo ofvity, know where he endored Yeah, because
if December it was totally like the most hostage situation ever.
He goes, well, I'm voting Kamala because of my daughter,
and like he looks away from the camera, like you
remember those old Frosted Flakes commercials where the adults admit
to eating frosted flakes, Yeah, black out their faces. That
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was the Kamala endorsement video. I'm doing it because of
my daughter. Frosted flakes are great.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, And then he's also forced to say because she
will bring change, you know, the vice president over the
last three and a half years. So that was that
was pretty interesting. But you know it's amazing we're seeing
these terror attacks and I read it last hour, but
it bears repeating. There's this weird now correlation going on
where we have the suspects in yesterday's attacks and Bourbon
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Street in New Orleans, Trump Tower Las Vegas. They both served
at Fort Bragg and that's the same military base that
Ryan Ruth who tried to assassinate Trump back in September
when he was golfing down at Trump International Miami. Ryan
Ruth visited that particular base over one hundred times before
attempting to take Trump out. So, I mean, what's going
on here?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah? Is there a tie? And I guess would be
the answer the.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Ryan Ruth guy.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I didn't you know, I was reading about that reporting
on Acts a little earlier. That dude is. I mean,
he looked like he gets paid in tiede pods and
the cheap homemade mess he would if anything, at the
very least, I think he'd be connected to some type
of drug dealer or something, because that was a real
space cadet moonbat guy. And you know, obviously thank god
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that got him. But I don't, you know, Joe, I
don't know what to make of this. I just know
that we're living in this moment where there's such a
distrust of a lot of these institutions. Like the FBI
did a good job today, but as I'm sure you noted,
didn't do the best job yesterday when the woman got
out to the podium, Yeah, hours after finding an ISIS
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terror flag and possible IEDs and dismiss the possibility of
terror like if there's an ISIS flag and explosive devices
allegedly at the time, like was this a gender reveal
gone awry? Like what do they want us to believe
this was? And that's where developed that distrust is the
messaging was so in e f Now it turns out
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it was just a proposal, you know, come on, man,
And that's why people get upset. So I'm glad the
FBI did a better job today to start there.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
But I honestly, I don't know what to believe because.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I don't think anyone's bargaining with us in good faith
at the moment. Like John Kennedy of Louisiana said that
yesterday too, He's like, I don't know if they're telling
me the truth?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Do you I heard that? No, I was saying before
the ten years ago, I would buy yees the FBI.
Of course it's not politicized, as there's no DEI. They're
not gonna lie to us in any way, shape or form.
But they just feel half weaponized and happened half an AFT.
I'm not saying all of them, of course, but in
this situation you had to say it's not a terror attack.
Then they walk it back that the head of the
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field office down there is wearing a nose ring that
she has to take out because you're not supposed to
wear that in public or something. I mean, who the
hell knows what's going on, But guys could if we
could play the Kennedy clip that Jimmy was just referring to,
let's refresh people on what he said right in the
middle of that press conference, which which was seriously like
a disturbing eye opener the Kennedy cup.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Go there's just too much stuff we don't know, and
it's it's it's just not move. But I guess my
final point is I will promise you this. I will
when when it is appropriate and this investigation is complete,
you will find that what happened and who was responsible,
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or I will raise fresh Hill and I will chase
those in the federal government who are responsible for telling
us what happened, like they stole Christmas.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
There's Kennedy. You ever have him on your show because
he gives the best sound bites like ever, But he's
hard to book. I understand he is.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
A good SoundBite guy. And you know, as I I
tweeted yesterday, I think you're aware, like at this point,
I have more trust for those FBI hats that say
Federal Bikini Inspector.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I got to get one of those. It's got to
be on EVA somewhere. Yeah, you may be right about that.
And you made a great point on Twitter this morning.
X I still can't call it exits hard to get
used to. Like two years later, you said, the Biden
administration spent the last four years renaming our military bases
while terror plots are being hatched literally inside of them.
We've never been led by a bigger group of idiots.
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And that's where we're at this point. We have no
trust in many of the institutions that we grow up
absolutely trusting. And that's not just the FBI, but that
is the current president who just shuffled out there yesterday.
You know, he talks for three minutes out of a teleprompter,
doesn't take any questions and shuffles back. What do you
think the Biden legacy will be? This may be too
easy of a t ball question for you, but I'm curious.
(07:49):
I want to hear different perspectives on this. Everybody agrees
that he's a bad president. But what ultimately when the
first thing you hear the name Joe Biden said, say
like two three years from now, what do you think
the first thing will be that comes to mind?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It's the movie Kingpin, So let meplain it to you now.
In Kingpin, the Woody Harrelson character is a bowler and
he goes out hustling with Bill Murray and Munson No yeah,
Roy Munson and Bigger and mcrackett, and they come up
with the phrase.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
At Munson on me.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Roy Munson finds out that he was such a failure
that looking back, they coined a phrase like, oh my
car monsened on me Biden did Biden? Biden will become
a verb, a word, you know it bidened on me.
That will be his legacy. He will be synonymous with failure.
The only like historic upside to this presidency is, you
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know I've mentioned like he got Arson down. Arson was
lower under Biden because people couldn't afford to burn down
your house at these gas prices. And he will, of
course have the first presidential library that scratch and sniff,
So that's not nothing, Well, it's nothing.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You really got to get them there are you using
this stuff on the road, because this just feels like
completely organic, Like if you're just doing this on a fly,
I'd be insanely impressed. But if this isn't your act,
I'd say also impressive, because this is some good stuff
you're giving us right here, Jimmy, thank you. Anyway, do
you know comedian Tim Dillon? Is he a friend or anything?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
He's not, Like I don't like hang out with him, No,
but I know of him Oka really good. What do
he got on him?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Well, this whole thing where he played the ghost of
the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, who got you know,
shot in the back like five blocks from Fox a
couple of weeks ago because Luigiana Luigi Mengioni decided, you
know that he had to take him out because he
didn't like what he was paying for healthcare, even though
he doesn't even get you know, insured, by United Healthcare
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but regardless, and then Luigiana MANGIONI ended up being like
a guy who you know, basically became a sex symbol.
And I don't know, I mean, where do you draw
the line as a comedian as far as I mean,
should we really be joking about this guy? I mean,
I hate to like sound all you know dad like,
but I do have two kids, I have a wife.
I mean there is like a it's a horrible tragedy,
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but is is there a line? Or am I being
two PC on this one?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Well, here's the deal. I mean, the truth is like, yeah,
the bit was tasteless, but that's kind of what Tim does.
Is like, if you're tuning in for him, it's because
you know, you've got someone who doesn't care, who's intentionally
gonna go too far. So like the you know, the
answer is yeah, obviously we don't have to watch it.
But my bigger takeaway having watched that whole Netflix roast
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of twenty twenty four is those guys don't do political
or topical comedy night at in, night out. So I'm
telling you because I care that Netflix roast it was
like loaded with jokes that would be b pluses on
a Gutfeld episode C plus is on my show, Like nothing, kiddy,
That's what I thought. I watched all their takes on
the news and it wasn't a single joke where I
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was like, Man, how'd they do that? You know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah? Like the Brady vote roast, what I thought was excellent.
I mean it was. It was awkward to watch it
that moment before Tom. Then again, he's signed up for it,
but and he's getting paid three hundred and eighty five
million dollars from Fox Sports, so you can't feel too
bad for him. But that I thought was next level.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
But the Brady roast, it was so funny because everybody
was like, but what.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
About his kids?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
And I was like, yo, yo, yo, the Brady kids
are gonna be fine. They have the DNA of the
greatest quarterback of all time and the greatest supermodel.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Of full time.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, and there worth a billion dollars. Okay, let's talk
about my kids. If I die, he's gonna be battling
in court for custody of a Nintendo. Okay, the Brady
kids are gonna be.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Okay, Yeah, they'll they'll be just fine. If you've ever
seen his house down in Tampa. Yeah, trust me, it's
a whole zip code. And we're talking to Jimmy Falla.
He is the host of Fox across America. Any shows
coming up that we should know about Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Well, okay, obviously, contractually I have to tell you to
watch Fox New Saturday Night every Saturday at ten pm
in the Fox News channel, of course, and we have
a live audience beginning this weekend. So now we start
with our live audience version of the show.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Really, can I stop you there real quick? That's so?
So you're gonna do where Gutfelt tapes because that's the
only place where we kind of have like an audience
where we have the ability to house noise. I guess
I could do it in studio am also where they
do Fox and Friends, where they have some audiences there
as well. It's more makeshift than anything else, but that
that is awesome. Going live, I think that that's really
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gonna be. There's just a different energy to it when
you pre tape. There's something about it. But I think
once Gutfeld added a studio audience, I think the show
took on. It went to a different level because I
think you need that with comedy, you need reaction, right,
and you feed off of that as a comedian. This
is gonna be awesome. You're gonna fill that place every
Saturday night, and I think you're probably gonna have some
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people that may be overserved when they show up to
the show.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Well, well the night, yeah, then but enough about the panelists.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, the panelists in the hotel, Well, we'll pump.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
We're pumped out of that. I don't go back on
the road for stand up till February because we're in
this new format and we got to like make all
that magic cappen. Yeah, especially coming out to January ninth.
On Nation it's called the Night of Comedy. It's me
Adam Carolla, Jim Brewer, Anthony Rodilla. Wow, and I hosted
that shindig. We did it out at Long Island University.
So what was funny about it is we shot it
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at Long Island University a week after the Patriot Awards.
So think about this Thursday, December fifth, I'm on stage
telling jokes President Trump's and the audience surrounded by Secret Service.
To go back a week later, it felt a little
bit like he got invited to the orgy after the
girls went home.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
That's true. Trump was at the Fox Nation Awards, right,
and then yes, so you're performing for the president. You're
almost like Marilyn Monroe, right, like happy Birthday This to President,
which happened at Maison Square Garden, which apparently like that
was a Nazis thing also, But yeah, then afterwards then
you're lu and it's not quite the same audience. But
that's that's an all star lineup. Okay, So that's that's
on Fox Nation and that is on the ninth.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
The ninth, Yes, January ninth at debuts. And I have
a new series coming out in My Taxi. You know,
we do all these taxi interviews.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
It's the older Kataxi too. I've seen it parked outside
the network.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, we hit tomorrow for another shoot. But that's called
Taxi Cab Comedy because they really killed themselves to come
up with a creative name.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Is it like the Seinfeld you know the episodes having
coffee in cars with I forget what it was called.
It was kind of long, but the same kind of
format where you're driving along and just having a conversation.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, jokes on wheels, but yeah, that's what it is.
A series of like, you know, short form interviews in
taxis with random people. Though, like what we do on
my TV show is it's Fox talent that I pick
up and drive around and yap with about stuff. What
we do in this series is it's just randos on
the street that I pick up in drive places and
talk to. So it's a little exciting. You'll get a
contact high just from watching it. People New York or
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a special breed.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Yeah, like it. And it's well, you know, funny.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Concient is like they're totally making me shoot stuff in
a taxi. Is like a scared straight just to remind
me to behave because that was my job, you know
obviously cab driving and doing stand up before I got
started here at Fox. So that's just it. This is
the way of reminding me to keep playing good ball.
Are they going to stick me back on the van
Wick Expressway in traffic?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Well that's the amazing story about about Jimmy fall and
unfortunately we got to go. So I'll just fill in
the blank here. I mean, you were a cab driver
also doing comedy and then before you know, you're doing
some appearances on I think it was with Kennedy, right,
and from there you did so well with your hits
that just everything took off. And here you are now
Fox Nation shows, Fox News Saturday Night, which is awesome.
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That's on a ten pm Saturday. Now it's gonna have
a live audience, whole new vibe to it. So that's
gonna be great. And Jimmy, I mean, congratulations on all
your success. Twenty twenty five is only gonna get.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Better for you.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It's our year.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Let's get him.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I'll see you, all right, Let's get him. He is
Jimmy Fayler. Thank you so much, Jimmy. We really appreciate it.
I mean, that's a true success story right there. From
CAB National Television, multiple formats, books, the whole deal. Jimmy Fayler,
one of the good ones over a Fox. Well, they're
all good, but when the when the great ones over
a Fox. Anyway, This is Joekancha in for Sean Hannity,
eight hundred and niney four one Seawan. That is your
number to call and your call, I swear, I promise
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that's coming up next. And welcome back everybody. Joe Concha
in for Sean Hannity, eight hundred nine for one Sean
We got a quick segment here, and when we come back,
we got some more great guests for you. We have
John McLaughlin coming up. I met him at the Republican
National Convention in Milwaukee, and his numbers were right all along,
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which is probably why you saw Trump so confident on
the campaign trail, even when ridiculous polsters like Anne Selzer.
We're showing Kamala Harris up by three points in places
like Iowa, and then other morning consult or you Gov
showing Kamala Harris up four or five points leading some
swing states. Now Trump was leading all along, and then
after the election it turned out that the Harris campaign
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admitted that, Yeah, our internal showed us that all along,
we knew we weren't up. While McLaughlin always had Trump up.
In the guy who was right in twenty sixteen, he's
right again and we're going to talk to him coming
up after the break. Please do stick around. This is
Joe Conshent, Fox News contributor in for Sean Hannity, back
with more in just a.
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Sean Hannity is on and welcome back everybody. Joe Kanca
in for mister Hannity, eight hundred and ninety four one
Sean is your number to call. Let's get to our
next guest. He is John McLaughlin. He is the founder
of John McLaughlin and Associates. And we met, I believe
in Milwaukee for the first time at the RNC. John,
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and I remember talking to you off the record that
you were confident in the president's position at that point.
Obviously Joe Biden was the opponent on July eighteenth, nineteenth
when that convention went on. But now we're hearing from
the sitting president. Yes, he still is a sitting president,
saying that, well, if he didn't drop out and stayed
in that he probably would have beaten Trump. Did you
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laugh hard or very hard when you heard that?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
By the way, the first time we met, we met
it's a Jersey shore. Here's a goup few that's right, yes, yes,
well it's like yeah, but by the way, it's like,
you know, so we've met before, and it was great
to see in Milwaukee again. But at the time we
were beating Joe Biden and to prove our polls right
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on July twenty first. When you think about it, we
put out a poll the day before the debate between
Biden and Trump at the end of June, and Trump
was up to. Now, Trump had been ahead in the
polls since September of twenty one, when inflation kicked in
and Biden decided to surrender Afghanistan. And surrendering a country
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is that what American and presidents are supposed to do.
But Trump was leading him in the popular vote. From
that point on. We had to win the primaries and
all that, which Trump did in historic fashion. But the
day before the debate, Trump was up to Trump destroys
him in the debate. Biden goes down the media polls.
Trump survived by the grace of God an assassin's bullet,
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and we have a great convention tal you saw the
party was united, it was coming out strong, ready to
win the election. And that Sunday on July twenty first,
Biden withdraws Haim, picks Kamala Harris to be his replacement,
and we do Paul. The first week of August. Trump's
still up too. I mean, all those historics happened and
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nothing changed, and really a lot happened. But from that
point on through the election. But Trump was always leading
in our popular vote ever since Biden took office. In fact,
at one point that's interesting me being an old timer.
You know, I'm much older than your producer Linda McLaughlin
and did a relationship, but still she's much younger. So
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but but I had met with President Trump during the
second apeachment. Jason Miller, myself, a couple of as we've
done a poll in the battleground states for Trump and
it was during impeachment, and we went and we met
with President Trump and his office in marri A Lago
and he's watching on he's watching the impeachment hearings, and
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I said to him, I said, you realize sixty three
percent of the Republicans want you to run again. And
we were going through the poll numbers, and I'm saying,
you know, when Biden fails, this is going to be
like Jimmy Carter. When Jimmy Carter, you know, he basically failed.
And there was Buyer's remorse that the Republicans had nominated
Reagan in seventy six. Those of us who volunteered and
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helped Reagan when I was a young man in college,
et cetera, in the eighty race, Reagan beat Carter soundly
and states, yeah, yeah, and President Trump knew him. And
President Trump, you know, I said, when when Biden fails,
which he will do, because he's done, you know, undoing
your he's going to undo your policies, and he's going
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to put in policies in place you there'll be buyer's
remorse and you'll be able to beat him again. Little
did we know Biden would sail as gloriously as he
sailed this country where we did a survey in December
and two thirds of the voters sixty six percent say
the country's on the wrong track. They say the economy
is getting worse, not better, fifty five to thirty seven,
eighty four percent negatively impacted by inflation forty eight percent
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to the point where they can't afford basic necessities. And
Trump's policies are seen as he ran a very policy
orients a campaign seen as a relief to this where
you have you know, they want to they there's no
tax on tips, they support seventy one to twenty one.
No tax on so security they support eighty two to eleven,
no tax on overtime sixty six twenty five all voters support,
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and they want the Trump tax cuts made permanent because
they're supposed to lapse this year, which they would have
if Harris had won seventy to seventeen. So so President
Trump has basically a mandate to get these things done
and turn the country around. But you know, people are
counting the days until he gets sworn in because you know,
it's it's things. People have some optimisms, some reason of
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hope right now, but we've got a lot of problems
to turn around. President Trump has a real challenge behind him.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Well, John, I'm not sure anybody's counting the days. Oh,
who were kidding? It's seventeen days and twenty two hours
if you want an exact account. So there you go.
But yeah, people have been counting the days for some
time now. And we're talking to John McLaughlin, founder of
McLaughlin and Associates. So, John, I have a book coming out,
and that's why I was at the convention, and I
was at a rally for Trump. I was at mar
(22:23):
Alago just on New Year's I want to get as
much behind the scenes as I can because it really
is a fascinating campaign and a fascinating person. Quite frankly
to chronicle. But one chapter in the book, I talk
about a rally that I attended and covered at Madison
Square Garden, and there was a joke made like five
hours before Trump took the stage. And we all know
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where I'm going with this, as far as a joke
about the garbage problem in Puerto Rico, which actually is
a very real thing by a comedian that most people
hadn't heard of before. And then we heard from the
Harris campaign that their internal polling was showing that there
was a large shift among Hispanics, Latinos, Puerto Rican, Puerto
Rican Americans. They're all going to Harris now because of
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this joke. They said, you know what, A yeah, our
gas prices are too high, our grocery prices are too high.
The border's not secure, we don't like that crime is
out of control, we don't like these wars overseas. But
because a comedian not named Trump, total joke at a
rally at Mason Square Garden, that's going to change everything.
I mean, when you heard this stuff, you must have
just been shaking your head, being like this is all
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gas lighting, right right.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Plus I was at the rally and I was like
set through that. And but we had a great week
that week because you remember that was the week that
President Trump did Donalds. He did McDonald's Al Smith. He
was on the Joe Rogan. The Al Smith was before
I was at that there. President Trump was great extreme
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and she skipped it. But this is my bath. She
skipped it. She wouldn't do Joe Rogan. She wouldn't do
she wouldn't do the rallies. Trump was doing three or
four rallies a day in the end, and you know
he went when they called us. Remember they had no message.
They were calling President Trump and nazi and a fascist.
And that's why he and they said, as President Biden said,
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his supporters were garbage. So he had the garbage truck.
So the end, by the way, in the end of
the post election survey, and these surveys I'm quoting are
on our website. I'm a glauclin online dot com. But
President Trump on election Day and our post election survey
had an approval of fifty six proof forty three disapproved.
It was and he was liked by the majority of Americans,
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and Biden and Harris were disliked and disapproved. The majority
of Americans in the December poll. By the way, I've
got fifty seven percent of all voters disapproved of the
John Biden's doing to the state. He's getting worse and
so so you know, like you have so much to
write about for your book, which is great, But it's
like when you think about when you think about how
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historic this a campaign was and the kind of determination,
Like you were very flattering about our polls. But I'm
fortunate that for Donald Trump for a long time before
he even got into this race and advising him, and
he made this happen. And it's like when you think
of all the adversity he went through in this historic
campaign where they tried to take away as wealth, they
tried to put him out of business, they tried to
(25:14):
put him in jail this year, last year, it is
now with the new year. And in June sixth, they
had ten Americans thought that all these indictments against Trump
were political. The majority thought Joe Biden was behind it
to try to stop him from taking the White House,
which he was, And you know, it's like he overcame
all that. Plus he only came to assassination attempts and
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he you know, our opponent had one point five billion
dollars she raised over the internet somehow, and Trump still won.
He never backed down. He's really a historic figure. It's
unbelievable that he was able to. As I said to him,
he proved that poll's right. I just happened to be
taking the polls for this historic figure. Now he's got
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a lot to He's got a lot to work on
as president because the country's certainly not in a good place.
And he's got wars, he's got an open border, he's
got high crime, he's got worries about economic growth. So
it's quite a challenge for the president try to turn
the country around.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, lots to fix, no question about. And we're talking
to John McLaughlin. And don't forget two impeachments as well,
being called a Russian agent for the better part of
the three years of his first presidency, taken off of
state ballots, remember Colorado and Maine tried to do that.
I mean, you could just go down the list. And
when I interviewed him about a week or so ago,
and he was nice enough forgive me about forty minutes,
(26:36):
that was my first question, Like all these things are
thrown at you, why would you want to stay around
for this. I mean, it's just it's not a fair fight, right,
a fair fight. You know, maybe you do, but with
all these things being thrown at you, what keeps you
moving forward? And he just said, you know, these are
sick people destroying the country, and I love my country
and I have to do what I can to save
(26:56):
it. It was like one of the more unselfish things that
you'll ever hear. And it wasn't a politics talking that.
This was a person who genuinely a thinks that the
country is going in the wrong direction, as do like
seventy percent of Americans, of course, and b that he
has the wherewithal to fix it. And I think this
time around John, it's different from twenty sixteen to twenty
seventeen when he took office that first time, because he
(27:18):
didn't know Washington then, right, And he didn't know some
of the players in his own cabinet, didn't know them
well anyway, right, and didn't know if they were on
the same page as him exactly. And obviously you know,
the House Speaker then and the Senate Majority leader as well.
You know, perhaps they weren't on the same page as
him as well. I think this time around, with Mike
Johnson in his House, Speaker John Thune in the Senate
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that he could probably get a lot more dumb. But
I think that all depends on Johnson because with such
a slim majority, you got to hurt all those cats.
I think that's the biggest challenge right now. Can the
Trump agenda move forward if Republicans don't. I don't want
to say get in line, because it sounds like there's
no like original thought or debate or anything like that.
But at the same time, if they're going to start straying,
or if they take Johnson out, which I think it
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would be very ill advised going into his presidency because
we saw what happened with Kevin McCarthy, it's hard to
find for anybody to agree on to a replacement. I
think the whole key is the Congress. Did you agree
with that?
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I would agree it's a then margin in the House,
and you know, we saw it in the first term
when we lost the majority, they instantly tried to impeach him,
and it was on fake stuff, stuff that wasn't even true.
So President Trump, what's critical right now is that he
tries to get his tax cuts passed quickly as possible,
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because in the first term he did healthcare first. And
I asked him, I said, why did you do healthcare?
You got to do tax cuts, and because tax cuts
will help you defy the historic downturn in a midterm.
If you have economic growth, you can keep your majorities.
And he said, at the time Ryan and McConnell had
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told him they needed the savings quote unquote savings where
the savings come from. It's only in Washington. They take
your money and they call it savings, savings from you know,
reforming healthcare whatever, and then they would do the tax cuts. Well,
the tax cuts are what you need to grow the economy.
Ronald Reagan got reelected because his tax cuts worked in
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eighty three and eighty four into the reelection, but we
lost twenty six Republicans in the midterms in eighty two
because the tax cuts didn't go into effect until eighty three.
Trump's tax cuts were slowed down because they didn't get
pissed till December because he was doing healthcare first, which
is like doing stalin rid before you try to get
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something done. But in the meantime, this time around, he's
got a majority and smart people like Larry Cudlows, Steve Forbes,
Steve Moore. They're telling him, get the tax cuts done first,
get economic growth in their let Americans feel good, feel better,
get you know, peace and prosperity going. Maybe we can
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do like we did in two thousand and two where
the Republicans kept their majorities in the House and Senate.
At the time, it was because it was after nine
to eleven. Hopefully God forbid, nothing like that ever happens again.
But you got to be vigilant. But now it's like,
if we can grow the economy, we can bring peace back.
President Trump should be able to maybe expand these majorities
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so that maybe even make them by partisan, bring some
Democrats on board that it's a good idea to grow
the economy, that it's a good idea to reduce inflation
and seal the border and do good things to turn
the country around.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
So we'll say it will be interesting. I think some Democrats,
you know, not a lot, but enough may come on board. John,
because again they just watched this election. You want to
just continue to resist. Okay, well, in two years you
very well can lose, and you don't have to listen
to everything that keem Jeffreys or Nancy Pelosi tells you
because that they're enough, the stars, the moon, and the sun.
(30:57):
I mean, think on your own and do what's right
for the country. That's what I say. Anyway, John, Jersey
Shore guy, good to talk to you again. Yes we
had met. It's all coming back to me now. Sorry
about that. But are you going back down the summer.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
You're writing a book? I do. It's like it's I'm
down here now and it's really cold.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Oh God, well trust me, it is up here as well.
So get ready for January in the Northeast. Anyway, John,
thanks so much for joining us. Happy New Year. So
Jimmy Carter will lie in state in the Rotunda at
the US Capitol in Washington. That will be on the ninth.
And somebody sent me the electoral map from the nineteen
seventy sixth election when Carter defeated Jarl Ford. And if
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you you got to take a look at this sometime.
Here's the states that went red. Okay, Illinois went red,
Vermont went red, Maine went red. New Jersey went red,
Virginia went red, California went red, Oregon went red, Washington
went red blue, Texas Florida, oh Hi, Io, West Virginia, Georgia,
(32:02):
South Carolina, North Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi. I mean it is
completely backwards. I mean, so things change, I guess, but
that's just crazy. California went red and Texas went blue.
Will go figure anyway. This is Joe conca in for
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New Year's Break where the holidays are in the middle
of the week. But yep, it's Thursday. Some of us
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are working. Many of you, hopefully you're still off where
you get like the seventeen day vacation basically starting on
Christmas all the way through January Seventh's that's not a
bad deal when these holidays fall in the middle of
the week. Anyway, Let's bring in Jimmy Fala. He is
the host of Fox Across America, a very active comedian
on tour as well, and we seems like he has
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a gig going every weekend. And Jimmy, why we working?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
What? What? What?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
What led us to this moment?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Some of us weren't as lucky betting the College Bowl
games as others.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Uh, that's true.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
No, I'm actually I'm in I'm in good shape right now.
And uh, I'm with you, Kanca. I got to host
a Saturday night TV show, so I had to show
up today and start putting together a comedy show in
the aftermath of two terror attacks and another another subway pusher,
who's ready for some comedy?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I mean, seriously, a comedy is much harder to do
than the serious stuff, right, and that's why it always
bothers me that we never have a good comedy ever.
Be up for an actor, be up for best you know,
best actor for example, like from There's Something About Mary.
Would you give that to Ben Steller? I would consider it?
Or Cameron Diaz was great in that as well, that's
(02:48):
like the first movie that popped into my mind. Or
Bill Murray and Stripes, like they're never considered when when
you're giving out the awards, are they.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Well, Ben Steeller should have won an Oscar for acting
in that Commo ofvity, know where he endored Yeah, because
if December it was totally like the most hostage situation ever.
He goes, well, I'm voting Kamala because of my daughter,
and like he looks away from the camera, like you
remember those old Frosted Flakes commercials where the adults admit
to eating frosted flakes, Yeah, black out their faces. That
(03:19):
was the Kamala endorsement video. I'm doing it because of
my daughter. Frosted flakes are great.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, And then he's also forced to say because she
will bring change, you know, the vice president over the
last three and a half years. So that was that
was pretty interesting. But you know it's amazing we're seeing
these terror attacks and I read it last hour, but
it bears repeating. There's this weird now correlation going on
where we have the suspects in yesterday's attacks and Bourbon
(03:44):
Street in New Orleans, Trump Tower Las Vegas. They both served
at Fort Bragg and that's the same military base that
Ryan Ruth who tried to assassinate Trump back in September
when he was golfing down at Trump International Miami. Ryan
Ruth visited that particular base over one hundred times before
attempting to take Trump out. So, I mean, what's going
on here?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah? Is there a tie? And I guess would be
the answer the.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Ryan Ruth guy.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I didn't you know, I was reading about that reporting
on Acts a little earlier. That dude is. I mean,
he looked like he gets paid in tiede pods and
the cheap homemade mess he would if anything, at the
very least, I think he'd be connected to some type
of drug dealer or something, because that was a real
space cadet moonbat guy. And you know, obviously thank god
(04:31):
that got him. But I don't, you know, Joe, I
don't know what to make of this. I just know
that we're living in this moment where there's such a
distrust of a lot of these institutions. Like the FBI
did a good job today, but as I'm sure you noted,
didn't do the best job yesterday when the woman got
out to the podium, Yeah, hours after finding an ISIS
(04:52):
terror flag and possible IEDs and dismiss the possibility of
terror like if there's an ISIS flag and explosive devices
allegedly at the time, like was this a gender reveal
gone awry? Like what do they want us to believe
this was? And that's where developed that distrust is the
messaging was so in e f Now it turns out
(05:13):
it was just a proposal, you know, come on, man,
And that's why people get upset. So I'm glad the
FBI did a better job today to start there.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
But I honestly, I don't know what to believe because.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I don't think anyone's bargaining with us in good faith
at the moment. Like John Kennedy of Louisiana said that
yesterday too, He's like, I don't know if they're telling
me the truth?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Do you I heard that? No, I was saying before
the ten years ago, I would buy yees the FBI.
Of course it's not politicized, as there's no DEI. They're
not gonna lie to us in any way, shape or form.
But they just feel half weaponized and happened half an AFT.
I'm not saying all of them, of course, but in
this situation you had to say it's not a terror attack.
Then they walk it back that the head of the
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field office down there is wearing a nose ring that
she has to take out because you're not supposed to
wear that in public or something. I mean, who the
hell knows what's going on, But guys could if we
could play the Kennedy clip that Jimmy was just referring to,
let's refresh people on what he said right in the
middle of that press conference, which which was seriously like
a disturbing eye opener the Kennedy cup.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Go there's just too much stuff we don't know, and
it's it's it's just not move. But I guess my
final point is I will promise you this. I will
when when it is appropriate and this investigation is complete,
you will find that what happened and who was responsible,
(06:34):
or I will raise fresh Hill and I will chase
those in the federal government who are responsible for telling
us what happened, like they stole Christmas.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
There's Kennedy. You ever have him on your show because
he gives the best sound bites like ever, But he's
hard to book. I understand he is.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
A good SoundBite guy. And you know, as I I
tweeted yesterday, I think you're aware, like at this point,
I have more trust for those FBI hats that say
Federal Bikini Inspector.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I got to get one of those. It's got to
be on EVA somewhere. Yeah, you may be right about that.
And you made a great point on Twitter this morning.
X I still can't call it exits hard to get
used to. Like two years later, you said, the Biden
administration spent the last four years renaming our military bases
while terror plots are being hatched literally inside of them.
We've never been led by a bigger group of idiots.
(07:26):
And that's where we're at this point. We have no
trust in many of the institutions that we grow up
absolutely trusting. And that's not just the FBI, but that
is the current president who just shuffled out there yesterday.
You know, he talks for three minutes out of a teleprompter,
doesn't take any questions and shuffles back. What do you
think the Biden legacy will be? This may be too
easy of a t ball question for you, but I'm curious.
(07:49):
I want to hear different perspectives on this. Everybody agrees
that he's a bad president. But what ultimately when the
first thing you hear the name Joe Biden said, say
like two three years from now, what do you think
the first thing will be that comes to mind?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It's the movie Kingpin, So let meplain it to you now.
In Kingpin, the Woody Harrelson character is a bowler and
he goes out hustling with Bill Murray and Munson No yeah,
Roy Munson and Bigger and mcrackett, and they come up
with the phrase.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
At Munson on me.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Roy Munson finds out that he was such a failure
that looking back, they coined a phrase like, oh my
car monsened on me Biden did Biden? Biden will become
a verb, a word, you know it bidened on me.
That will be his legacy. He will be synonymous with failure.
The only like historic upside to this presidency is, you
(08:37):
know I've mentioned like he got Arson down. Arson was
lower under Biden because people couldn't afford to burn down
your house at these gas prices. And he will, of
course have the first presidential library that scratch and sniff,
So that's not nothing, Well, it's nothing.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You really got to get them there are you using
this stuff on the road, because this just feels like
completely organic, Like if you're just doing this on a fly,
I'd be insanely impressed. But if this isn't your act,
I'd say also impressive, because this is some good stuff
you're giving us right here, Jimmy, thank you. Anyway, do
you know comedian Tim Dillon? Is he a friend or anything?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
He's not, Like I don't like hang out with him, No,
but I know of him Oka really good. What do
he got on him?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Well, this whole thing where he played the ghost of
the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, who got you know,
shot in the back like five blocks from Fox a
couple of weeks ago because Luigiana Luigi Mengioni decided, you
know that he had to take him out because he
didn't like what he was paying for healthcare, even though
he doesn't even get you know, insured, by United Healthcare
(09:38):
but regardless, and then Luigiana MANGIONI ended up being like
a guy who you know, basically became a sex symbol.
And I don't know, I mean, where do you draw
the line as a comedian as far as I mean,
should we really be joking about this guy? I mean,
I hate to like sound all you know dad like,
but I do have two kids, I have a wife.
I mean there is like a it's a horrible tragedy,
(09:59):
but is is there a line? Or am I being
two PC on this one?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Well, here's the deal. I mean, the truth is like, yeah,
the bit was tasteless, but that's kind of what Tim does.
Is like, if you're tuning in for him, it's because
you know, you've got someone who doesn't care, who's intentionally
gonna go too far. So like the you know, the
answer is yeah, obviously we don't have to watch it.
But my bigger takeaway having watched that whole Netflix roast
(10:23):
of twenty twenty four is those guys don't do political
or topical comedy night at in, night out. So I'm
telling you because I care that Netflix roast it was
like loaded with jokes that would be b pluses on
a Gutfeld episode C plus is on my show, Like nothing, kiddy,
That's what I thought. I watched all their takes on
the news and it wasn't a single joke where I
(10:44):
was like, Man, how'd they do that? You know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah? Like the Brady vote roast, what I thought was excellent.
I mean it was. It was awkward to watch it
that moment before Tom. Then again, he's signed up for it,
but and he's getting paid three hundred and eighty five
million dollars from Fox Sports, so you can't feel too
bad for him. But that I thought was next level.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
But the Brady roast, it was so funny because everybody
was like, but what.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
About his kids?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
And I was like, yo, yo, yo, the Brady kids
are gonna be fine. They have the DNA of the
greatest quarterback of all time and the greatest supermodel.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Of full time.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, and there worth a billion dollars. Okay, let's talk
about my kids. If I die, he's gonna be battling
in court for custody of a Nintendo. Okay, the Brady
kids are gonna be.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Okay, Yeah, they'll they'll be just fine. If you've ever
seen his house down in Tampa. Yeah, trust me, it's
a whole zip code. And we're talking to Jimmy Falla.
He is the host of Fox across America. Any shows
coming up that we should know about Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Well, okay, obviously, contractually I have to tell you to
watch Fox New Saturday Night every Saturday at ten pm
in the Fox News channel, of course, and we have
a live audience beginning this weekend. So now we start
with our live audience version of the show.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Really, can I stop you there real quick? That's so?
So you're gonna do where Gutfelt tapes because that's the
only place where we kind of have like an audience
where we have the ability to house noise. I guess
I could do it in studio am also where they
do Fox and Friends, where they have some audiences there
as well. It's more makeshift than anything else, but that
that is awesome. Going live, I think that that's really
(12:19):
gonna be. There's just a different energy to it when
you pre tape. There's something about it. But I think
once Gutfeld added a studio audience, I think the show
took on. It went to a different level because I
think you need that with comedy, you need reaction, right,
and you feed off of that as a comedian. This
is gonna be awesome. You're gonna fill that place every
Saturday night, and I think you're probably gonna have some
(12:40):
people that may be overserved when they show up to
the show.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Well, well the night, yeah, then but enough about the panelists.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, the panelists in the hotel, Well, we'll pump.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
We're pumped out of that. I don't go back on
the road for stand up till February because we're in
this new format and we got to like make all
that magic cappen. Yeah, especially coming out to January ninth.
On Nation it's called the Night of Comedy. It's me
Adam Carolla, Jim Brewer, Anthony Rodilla. Wow, and I hosted
that shindig. We did it out at Long Island University.
So what was funny about it is we shot it
(13:11):
at Long Island University a week after the Patriot Awards.
So think about this Thursday, December fifth, I'm on stage
telling jokes President Trump's and the audience surrounded by Secret Service.
To go back a week later, it felt a little
bit like he got invited to the orgy after the
girls went home.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
That's true. Trump was at the Fox Nation Awards, right,
and then yes, so you're performing for the president. You're
almost like Marilyn Monroe, right, like happy Birthday This to President,
which happened at Maison Square Garden, which apparently like that
was a Nazis thing also, But yeah, then afterwards then
you're lu and it's not quite the same audience. But
that's that's an all star lineup. Okay, So that's that's
on Fox Nation and that is on the ninth.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
The ninth, Yes, January ninth at debuts. And I have
a new series coming out in My Taxi. You know,
we do all these taxi interviews.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
It's the older Kataxi too. I've seen it parked outside
the network.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, we hit tomorrow for another shoot. But that's called
Taxi Cab Comedy because they really killed themselves to come
up with a creative name.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Is it like the Seinfeld you know the episodes having
coffee in cars with I forget what it was called.
It was kind of long, but the same kind of
format where you're driving along and just having a conversation.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, jokes on wheels, but yeah, that's what it is.
A series of like, you know, short form interviews in
taxis with random people. Though, like what we do on
my TV show is it's Fox talent that I pick
up and drive around and yap with about stuff. What
we do in this series is it's just randos on
the street that I pick up in drive places and
talk to. So it's a little exciting. You'll get a
contact high just from watching it. People New York or
(14:44):
a special breed.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Yeah, like it. And it's well, you know, funny.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Concient is like they're totally making me shoot stuff in
a taxi. Is like a scared straight just to remind
me to behave because that was my job, you know
obviously cab driving and doing stand up before I got
started here at Fox. So that's just it. This is
the way of reminding me to keep playing good ball.
Are they going to stick me back on the van
Wick Expressway in traffic?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Well that's the amazing story about about Jimmy fall and
unfortunately we got to go. So I'll just fill in
the blank here. I mean, you were a cab driver
also doing comedy and then before you know, you're doing
some appearances on I think it was with Kennedy, right,
and from there you did so well with your hits
that just everything took off. And here you are now
Fox Nation shows, Fox News Saturday Night, which is awesome.
(15:29):
That's on a ten pm Saturday. Now it's gonna have
a live audience, whole new vibe to it. So that's
gonna be great. And Jimmy, I mean, congratulations on all
your success. Twenty twenty five is only gonna get.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Better for you.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It's our year.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Let's get him.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I'll see you, all right, Let's get him. He is
Jimmy Fayler. Thank you so much, Jimmy. We really appreciate it.
I mean, that's a true success story right there. From
CAB National Television, multiple formats, books, the whole deal. Jimmy Fayler,
one of the good ones over a Fox. Well, they're
all good, but when the when the great ones over
a Fox. Anyway, This is Joekancha in for Sean Hannity,
eight hundred and niney four one Seawan. That is your
number to call and your call, I swear, I promise
(16:01):
that's coming up next. And welcome back everybody. Joe Concha
in for Sean Hannity, eight hundred nine for one Sean
We got a quick segment here, and when we come back,
we got some more great guests for you. We have
John McLaughlin coming up. I met him at the Republican
National Convention in Milwaukee, and his numbers were right all along,
(16:21):
which is probably why you saw Trump so confident on
the campaign trail, even when ridiculous polsters like Anne Selzer.
We're showing Kamala Harris up by three points in places
like Iowa, and then other morning consult or you Gov
showing Kamala Harris up four or five points leading some
swing states. Now Trump was leading all along, and then
after the election it turned out that the Harris campaign
(16:45):
admitted that, Yeah, our internal showed us that all along,
we knew we weren't up. While McLaughlin always had Trump up.
In the guy who was right in twenty sixteen, he's
right again and we're going to talk to him coming
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Sean is your number to call. Let's get to our
next guest. He is John McLaughlin. He is the founder
of John McLaughlin and Associates. And we met, I believe
in Milwaukee for the first time at the RNC. John,
(17:30):
and I remember talking to you off the record that
you were confident in the president's position at that point.
Obviously Joe Biden was the opponent on July eighteenth, nineteenth
when that convention went on. But now we're hearing from
the sitting president. Yes, he still is a sitting president,
saying that, well, if he didn't drop out and stayed
in that he probably would have beaten Trump. Did you
(17:50):
laugh hard or very hard when you heard that?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
By the way, the first time we met, we met
it's a Jersey shore. Here's a goup few that's right, yes, yes,
well it's like yeah, but by the way, it's like,
you know, so we've met before, and it was great
to see in Milwaukee again. But at the time we
were beating Joe Biden and to prove our polls right
(18:15):
on July twenty first. When you think about it, we
put out a poll the day before the debate between
Biden and Trump at the end of June, and Trump
was up to. Now, Trump had been ahead in the
polls since September of twenty one, when inflation kicked in
and Biden decided to surrender Afghanistan. And surrendering a country
(18:36):
is that what American and presidents are supposed to do.
But Trump was leading him in the popular vote. From
that point on. We had to win the primaries and
all that, which Trump did in historic fashion. But the
day before the debate, Trump was up to Trump destroys
him in the debate. Biden goes down the media polls.
Trump survived by the grace of God an assassin's bullet,
(18:57):
and we have a great convention tal you saw the
party was united, it was coming out strong, ready to
win the election. And that Sunday on July twenty first,
Biden withdraws Haim, picks Kamala Harris to be his replacement,
and we do Paul. The first week of August. Trump's
still up too. I mean, all those historics happened and
(19:19):
nothing changed, and really a lot happened. But from that
point on through the election. But Trump was always leading
in our popular vote ever since Biden took office. In fact,
at one point that's interesting me being an old timer.
You know, I'm much older than your producer Linda McLaughlin
and did a relationship, but still she's much younger. So
(19:43):
but but I had met with President Trump during the
second apeachment. Jason Miller, myself, a couple of as we've
done a poll in the battleground states for Trump and
it was during impeachment, and we went and we met
with President Trump and his office in marri A Lago
and he's watching on he's watching the impeachment hearings, and
(20:04):
I said to him, I said, you realize sixty three
percent of the Republicans want you to run again. And
we were going through the poll numbers, and I'm saying,
you know, when Biden fails, this is going to be
like Jimmy Carter. When Jimmy Carter, you know, he basically failed.
And there was Buyer's remorse that the Republicans had nominated
Reagan in seventy six. Those of us who volunteered and
(20:25):
helped Reagan when I was a young man in college,
et cetera, in the eighty race, Reagan beat Carter soundly
and states, yeah, yeah, and President Trump knew him. And
President Trump, you know, I said, when when Biden fails,
which he will do, because he's done, you know, undoing
your he's going to undo your policies, and he's going
(20:45):
to put in policies in place you there'll be buyer's
remorse and you'll be able to beat him again. Little
did we know Biden would sail as gloriously as he
sailed this country where we did a survey in December
and two thirds of the voters sixty six percent say
the country's on the wrong track. They say the economy
is getting worse, not better, fifty five to thirty seven,
eighty four percent negatively impacted by inflation forty eight percent
(21:09):
to the point where they can't afford basic necessities. And
Trump's policies are seen as he ran a very policy
orients a campaign seen as a relief to this where
you have you know, they want to they there's no
tax on tips, they support seventy one to twenty one.
No tax on so security they support eighty two to eleven,
no tax on overtime sixty six twenty five all voters support,
(21:34):
and they want the Trump tax cuts made permanent because
they're supposed to lapse this year, which they would have
if Harris had won seventy to seventeen. So so President
Trump has basically a mandate to get these things done
and turn the country around. But you know, people are
counting the days until he gets sworn in because you know,
it's it's things. People have some optimisms, some reason of
(21:57):
hope right now, but we've got a lot of problems
to turn around. President Trump has a real challenge behind him.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Well, John, I'm not sure anybody's counting the days. Oh,
who were kidding? It's seventeen days and twenty two hours
if you want an exact account. So there you go.
But yeah, people have been counting the days for some
time now. And we're talking to John McLaughlin, founder of
McLaughlin and Associates. So, John, I have a book coming out,
and that's why I was at the convention, and I
was at a rally for Trump. I was at mar
(22:23):
Alago just on New Year's I want to get as
much behind the scenes as I can because it really
is a fascinating campaign and a fascinating person. Quite frankly
to chronicle. But one chapter in the book, I talk
about a rally that I attended and covered at Madison
Square Garden, and there was a joke made like five
hours before Trump took the stage. And we all know
(22:45):
where I'm going with this, as far as a joke
about the garbage problem in Puerto Rico, which actually is
a very real thing by a comedian that most people
hadn't heard of before. And then we heard from the
Harris campaign that their internal polling was showing that there
was a large shift among Hispanics, Latinos, Puerto Rican, Puerto
Rican Americans. They're all going to Harris now because of
(23:07):
this joke. They said, you know what, A yeah, our
gas prices are too high, our grocery prices are too high.
The border's not secure, we don't like that crime is
out of control, we don't like these wars overseas. But
because a comedian not named Trump, total joke at a
rally at Mason Square Garden, that's going to change everything.
I mean, when you heard this stuff, you must have
just been shaking your head, being like this is all
(23:27):
gas lighting, right right.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Plus I was at the rally and I was like
set through that. And but we had a great week
that week because you remember that was the week that
President Trump did Donalds. He did McDonald's Al Smith. He
was on the Joe Rogan. The Al Smith was before
I was at that there. President Trump was great extreme
(23:49):
and she skipped it. But this is my bath. She
skipped it. She wouldn't do Joe Rogan. She wouldn't do
she wouldn't do the rallies. Trump was doing three or
four rallies a day in the end, and you know
he went when they called us. Remember they had no message.
They were calling President Trump and nazi and a fascist.
And that's why he and they said, as President Biden said,
(24:09):
his supporters were garbage. So he had the garbage truck.
So the end, by the way, in the end of
the post election survey, and these surveys I'm quoting are
on our website. I'm a glauclin online dot com. But
President Trump on election Day and our post election survey
had an approval of fifty six proof forty three disapproved.
It was and he was liked by the majority of Americans,
(24:31):
and Biden and Harris were disliked and disapproved. The majority
of Americans in the December poll. By the way, I've
got fifty seven percent of all voters disapproved of the
John Biden's doing to the state. He's getting worse and
so so you know, like you have so much to
write about for your book, which is great, But it's
like when you think about when you think about how
(24:53):
historic this a campaign was and the kind of determination,
Like you were very flattering about our polls. But I'm
fortunate that for Donald Trump for a long time before
he even got into this race and advising him, and
he made this happen. And it's like when you think
of all the adversity he went through in this historic
campaign where they tried to take away as wealth, they
tried to put him out of business, they tried to
(25:14):
put him in jail this year, last year, it is
now with the new year. And in June sixth, they
had ten Americans thought that all these indictments against Trump
were political. The majority thought Joe Biden was behind it
to try to stop him from taking the White House,
which he was, And you know, it's like he overcame
all that. Plus he only came to assassination attempts and
(25:39):
he you know, our opponent had one point five billion
dollars she raised over the internet somehow, and Trump still won.
He never backed down. He's really a historic figure. It's
unbelievable that he was able to. As I said to him,
he proved that poll's right. I just happened to be
taking the polls for this historic figure. Now he's got
(25:59):
a lot to He's got a lot to work on
as president because the country's certainly not in a good place.
And he's got wars, he's got an open border, he's
got high crime, he's got worries about economic growth. So
it's quite a challenge for the president try to turn
the country around.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, lots to fix, no question about. And we're talking
to John McLaughlin. And don't forget two impeachments as well,
being called a Russian agent for the better part of
the three years of his first presidency, taken off of
state ballots, remember Colorado and Maine tried to do that.
I mean, you could just go down the list. And
when I interviewed him about a week or so ago,
and he was nice enough forgive me about forty minutes,
(26:36):
that was my first question, Like all these things are
thrown at you, why would you want to stay around
for this. I mean, it's just it's not a fair fight, right,
a fair fight. You know, maybe you do, but with
all these things being thrown at you, what keeps you
moving forward? And he just said, you know, these are
sick people destroying the country, and I love my country
and I have to do what I can to save
(26:56):
it. It was like one of the more unselfish things that
you'll ever hear. And it wasn't a politics talking that.
This was a person who genuinely a thinks that the
country is going in the wrong direction, as do like
seventy percent of Americans, of course, and b that he
has the wherewithal to fix it. And I think this
time around John, it's different from twenty sixteen to twenty
seventeen when he took office that first time, because he
(27:18):
didn't know Washington then, right, And he didn't know some
of the players in his own cabinet, didn't know them
well anyway, right, and didn't know if they were on
the same page as him exactly. And obviously you know,
the House Speaker then and the Senate Majority leader as well.
You know, perhaps they weren't on the same page as
him as well. I think this time around, with Mike
Johnson in his House, Speaker John Thune in the Senate
(27:39):
that he could probably get a lot more dumb. But
I think that all depends on Johnson because with such
a slim majority, you got to hurt all those cats.
I think that's the biggest challenge right now. Can the
Trump agenda move forward if Republicans don't. I don't want
to say get in line, because it sounds like there's
no like original thought or debate or anything like that.
But at the same time, if they're going to start straying,
or if they take Johnson out, which I think it
(28:01):
would be very ill advised going into his presidency because
we saw what happened with Kevin McCarthy, it's hard to
find for anybody to agree on to a replacement. I
think the whole key is the Congress. Did you agree
with that?
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I would agree it's a then margin in the House,
and you know, we saw it in the first term
when we lost the majority, they instantly tried to impeach him,
and it was on fake stuff, stuff that wasn't even true.
So President Trump, what's critical right now is that he
tries to get his tax cuts passed quickly as possible,
(28:33):
because in the first term he did healthcare first. And
I asked him, I said, why did you do healthcare?
You got to do tax cuts, and because tax cuts
will help you defy the historic downturn in a midterm.
If you have economic growth, you can keep your majorities.
And he said, at the time Ryan and McConnell had
(28:54):
told him they needed the savings quote unquote savings where
the savings come from. It's only in Washington. They take
your money and they call it savings, savings from you know,
reforming healthcare whatever, and then they would do the tax cuts. Well,
the tax cuts are what you need to grow the economy.
Ronald Reagan got reelected because his tax cuts worked in
(29:15):
eighty three and eighty four into the reelection, but we
lost twenty six Republicans in the midterms in eighty two
because the tax cuts didn't go into effect until eighty three.
Trump's tax cuts were slowed down because they didn't get
pissed till December because he was doing healthcare first, which
is like doing stalin rid before you try to get
(29:39):
something done. But in the meantime, this time around, he's
got a majority and smart people like Larry Cudlows, Steve Forbes,
Steve Moore. They're telling him, get the tax cuts done first,
get economic growth in their let Americans feel good, feel better,
get you know, peace and prosperity going. Maybe we can
(30:00):
do like we did in two thousand and two where
the Republicans kept their majorities in the House and Senate.
At the time, it was because it was after nine
to eleven. Hopefully God forbid, nothing like that ever happens again.
But you got to be vigilant. But now it's like,
if we can grow the economy, we can bring peace back.
President Trump should be able to maybe expand these majorities
(30:21):
so that maybe even make them by partisan, bring some
Democrats on board that it's a good idea to grow
the economy, that it's a good idea to reduce inflation
and seal the border and do good things to turn
the country around.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
So we'll say it will be interesting. I think some Democrats,
you know, not a lot, but enough may come on board. John,
because again they just watched this election. You want to
just continue to resist. Okay, well, in two years you
very well can lose, and you don't have to listen
to everything that keem Jeffreys or Nancy Pelosi tells you
because that they're enough, the stars, the moon, and the sun.
(30:57):
I mean, think on your own and do what's right
for the country. That's what I say. Anyway, John, Jersey
Shore guy, good to talk to you again. Yes we
had met. It's all coming back to me now. Sorry
about that. But are you going back down the summer.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
You're writing a book? I do. It's like it's I'm
down here now and it's really cold.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Oh God, well trust me, it is up here as well.
So get ready for January in the Northeast. Anyway, John,
thanks so much for joining us. Happy New Year. So
Jimmy Carter will lie in state in the Rotunda at
the US Capitol in Washington. That will be on the ninth.
And somebody sent me the electoral map from the nineteen
seventy sixth election when Carter defeated Jarl Ford. And if
(31:37):
you you got to take a look at this sometime.
Here's the states that went red. Okay, Illinois went red,
Vermont went red, Maine went red. New Jersey went red,
Virginia went red, California went red, Oregon went red, Washington
went red blue, Texas Florida, oh Hi, Io, West Virginia, Georgia,
(32:02):
South Carolina, North Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi. I mean it is
completely backwards. I mean, so things change, I guess, but
that's just crazy. California went red and Texas went blue.
Will go figure anyway. This is Joe conca in for
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