July 7, 2024 • 32 mins
This time will be the best time of all! Episode 52 is soaring high with a Christopher Reeve Legacy favorite! Paul Kaethler, who played Ricky in Superman III, not only got to fly on the big screen but also got behind the controls of some super explosives! All the stories you’ve been waiting for are here, and this episode is also a special video podcast with tons of never-before-seen photos and stories! Join Jim, Jay, Paul, and maybe even Buster! The Caped Wonder Superman Podcast is back! Don't miss this video podcast on capedwonder.com, youtube, and facebook!
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On today's Cape Wonder Superman Podcast,we are celebrating nineteen eighty three's Superman three
and we're talking with yet another childactor who worked on the ground and in
the air, with Christopher Reeve Nothe Cape Wonders Superman Podcast with Jay Cowis
and Jim Bowers on Iinheart Radio.Hello again, and welcome to the Cape
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Wonder Superman Podcast in Detroit. I'mJay Towers and just outside of Las Vegas
as always the founder of Capewonder dotCom. Jim Bowers. Jim, Hello
to you. Hello Jay, Thankyou for that great intro. It is
nice and toasty here in Las Vegas. How about Detroit. Detroit is feeling
fine. We're excited. We've alreadyhad a great year in the world of
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Superman and we want to recap someof that coming up in just a little
bit. We also have some excitingthings to tell you about still to come.
But we're excited because we're going totalk to a guy that, again,
I mean, was right there inthe middle of our childhood on the
set of Superman three and a prettyprominent role. That's right, and he's
the guy who tells Superman he's justin a slump and then he'll be great
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again. And who is that PaulKaitler Little Ricky. Hello, Yeah,
thanks thanks for having me on that'ucha pleasure to have you with us,
Paul, And I have to tellyou that last year when Superman three came
out on four KUHD, it gotpeople excited all over again about these movies,
particularly the sequels, because they've neverlooked so good. So if you
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haven't seen that four K yet ofSuperman three, I think it's going to
blow your mind. One of thesenior most colorists at Warner Brothers in Burbank
was in charge of mastering this film, and I have to tell you,
I think it looks better than itdid on the big screen back in eighty
three. If you can't find one, we can certainly send one to you.
We have a couple, Paul,We'll send one to you. Whatever.
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Let's talk a little bit, solet's take people back. We know
that you can roll when you wereeleven years old, but for people that
don't know the story, just talka little bit about about how that happened
and maybe start the fact that youactually saw some of the original Superman film
in production. Yeah, that's right. And so when when the Original Superman
was being filmed, we were touristingaround Canada and we were heading parts.
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So I live in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, so it's on the sort
of western side of the of thecountry. Anyway, we were driving around
and this is my parents because Iclearly wasn't driving. I was like,
you know, seven or eight orwhatever however old I was. And we
did actually see them filming the partwhere where they're about to steal the rocket.
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This is the Lex Luthor and hisgang. And you know, you
drive up and there's a bunch ofmilitary sort of trucks and we're like,
wow, look at that. Andwe didn't really think too much of it,
not thinking it was necessarily a movie. But then you went and saw
the movie and well, heck,we were right there kind of thing.
And so that was kind of funny. And I seem to recall that I
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said, well, wouldn't it becool to be in a movie like that?
Right? And then lo and behold, you know a number of years
later, you know, here Iam or there I was, I guess
forty five years ago. That's incrediblethe timing of that, though, Yeah,
a bit weird, right, Andyou know, as you pass forward
to where I got the part,my family had moved to England and I
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was attending a they called it aninternational school, but it really was an
American school in London, south ofLondon. In my I think it was
fifth grade teacher that hey, therewas this this addition coming up, and
I think I think you should tryout. And you know, so paper
were consued and I brought this backto my parents and they go, well,
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yeah, that's easy, signed thatoff and you know, lo and
behold. A couple of weeks later, you know, they phoned me up
and said, hey, we'd liketo, you know, have you out
for an interview. So a coupleof ladies came to the school and we
sat down a little outside area thereand they interviewed me. And I don't
remember too too much of that interaction, but they were pleasant and just just
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talked. Really that was about it. And a couple of weeks after that,
you know, got a phone callagain and said, well, the
director would like to meet with you, and you know, we'll pick a
time and we'll come get you.And so they did just that and drove
me into me and my mom droveinto London and I had an interview with
Richard Wester and they said great,thanks very much. You know, a
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few weeks later later from that,they kind of focused and said, well
you're our pick from England. Andwe're like, oh, that's kind of
neat. Yeah, And so atthat point they were going to head across
candidate actually and find some other candidates, I guess, and they said,
well, you know, we'd likeyou to have a screen test, and
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so we did that and and againpicked me up and drove me off to
Pine the studios and your role inthere. Of course, that's an amazing
experience, and you know, justall the stuff that's going on and crazy
big buildings and warehouses and all thatstuff, and of course you don't know
what's necessarily going on, how thesausage is made, as it were,
quite yet, and you know,we we go through this screen test and
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you know, rolling into a dressingroom and and there's my name on the
wall. It didn't take very longand they said, okay, thanks very
much, and you know, offwe went. You're not a child actor.
It's not like you had done withshoals and things, and you're just
a regular kid that just happened tofill out the form. Yeah, absolutely,
so, you know, just agrade five kid, right and struggling
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with school, just like the restof every grade five kids, and not
a child actor, not a nota model, nothing. So and so
it was a bit it was abit weird, you know, to get
thrown into those situations sort of brandnew. But it was exciting as well.
I mean, you know, asan eleven year old, twelve year
old kid, you know, sotwo weeks later, you know, they
kind of phoned me up and said, well, congratulations, you've got the
part, and and things you know, happened fairly quickly from there, and
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you know, they they shipped meback to Calgary where you know where I
moved from to film you know,the various bits here, and so that
was kind of neat Rea, thisis Rickie, this is Quak. You
know. We stayed downtown at afancy ish hotel for a while, and
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yeah, it was it was prettyfascinating. I love that fancy ish Yes,
we've Jay and I have actually madea trek to Calgary and to the
Alberta area last summer, but HighRiver was certainly a fascinating place. We
stayed there and saw where you werewearing your baby blue suit and bow tie
and rights at the ceremony. Yeahit's a pretty spot, you know,
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and high River has grown quite abit since those those times. I guess
that's forty three years. I havetwo years anyway, Are we right in
saying that some of the first footagethat was shot with you was the flying
scenes? And was that done inwas that done in London? So some
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of the flying scenes were and socertainly the aerial shots where you know,
I'm unconscious and and Ricky wakes upand you know Superman, Superman, that's
me and you're in the air,that was kind of a blue screen I
guess they did at that time.You know. Obviously the scene where lifts
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me up and drops them down justoutside of the high River there Blackie was
the area and I wouldn't be ableto drive to that site if you if
you, if my life depended onit. Yeah, some of that stuff
was was was filmed you know insideyou know, I remember because they had
Christopher Reeve on this platform on thispost that hung out from the wall.
Yeah, I sat there in thissort of position that I was to be
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lying in and they made a plastercast and a model of me, and
and so that was one of thefirst things. I think the very first
scene that we filmed was some ofthe scenes at Atlanta Lang's house and you
know, I'm doing homework and Supermanor or whatever says you'll be at my
birthday party kind of thing or so, if I remember correctly, it was
about ten weeks of filming in thein the studio, and it was about
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ten weeks of filming in Canada,and I remember, you know, folks
on the sets and and you know, the other actors kind of saying,
yeah, there's a saying here's hurryup and wait and you know, go
get ready, and then you sitaround for a while and you know,
okay, well and true enough wedid right while they're getting everything ready and
all that kind of stuff. Soyou know, it took the advantage of
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the buffet line and all that stuff, and in watching, you know what
they're kind of up to. Didyou get your own director's chair with your
name on it? I think therewas a chair at various locations. For
me. It depends on what wasgoing on, but it was it was
very chaotic. I mean, you'redoing stuff and then there's you know,
they got to reset the shots andthen go back and get makeup done and
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things like that, and it wasbusy. Almost the same number of people
who have walked on the Moon havehad the opportunity to fly with Christopher Reeve
as Superman and to be a partof that that little little group of just
precious amount of people that have hadthat experience. I know, at the
time, you're a kid and you'redoing something cool. But looking back,
yeah, fancy that fan, seeyou. And it's just we saw that
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movie as kids, so it's itwas as measurementrizing does as it probably was
for you. Yeah, fair enough, you know. It's it's sometimes you
forget how unique an experience this is, right, And you know, I
did the filming and then we livedin a time but we'd actually moved to
Scotland right after the filming, sothe filming was done and I was about
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two weeks late for school in Scotland. It just became a normal school kid
again, right, And so Scotland, Aberdeen Stalvin is about as far from
from Hollywood as you can possibly get. And I remember distinctly not trying to
sell myself based on this notoriety youknow, through the movie. So I
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really downplayed it quite a bit,you know, growing up. So now
I've got a really good story atthe at the cocktail bar or a corporate
events or whatever. You know what, name name one thing that's unique about
you, Well I got a prettyunique one kind of thing. Well,
speaking of flying scenes, I thinkfor me one of my favorite from all
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the Christophee films is when Chris launchesin the air holding you leaving the wheat
field thrasher. That's a really uniqueflying moment that's you don't see again.
By that film, they had reallyperfected the flying techniques, and I know
Christopherie was very much I had ahand in that, encouraging and pushing the
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British crew to improve it and refineit so he could land on one foot
okay, or he can make itright fluid and that takeoff is really great
and it doesn't look like you're onwires. It looks like he's really holding
you. He is actually holding methere, so you know he there was
a joke on set that I youknow, I kind of said, oh,
at least you know Superman can holdlike eighty pounds however much I weighed.
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So but yeah, that that's exactlywhat it was. And I mean
that combine harvester was was real.And you know, they assured me that
they sort of disconnected the threshing wheel. You know, that's sort of important
for both Christopher Evan my and mycontinued success. And so when he was
able to you know, stop itwith his with his hands kind of thing.
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And and uh, of course theimage of the wheels sort of cherning
in the sand and they're in thedirt, and you know that was that
was pretty neat. But you know, I had my eyes closed. I'm
lying there, you know, restingon my rock pillow, and you know,
it's it was a bit nerve wracking, and you know that, you
know, they assured me that no, no, this is under control.
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We know what we're doing. We'reprofessional, you know kind of thing,
and you have to trust them.And sure enough it all worked out super
well. Nobody but the people thecompany hires gets to fly with Superman.
I mean it's great, it's it'sgreat. I mean it's it's perfect.
And you could say he'd make everybody'sholiday file working we were flying, Mom,
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what were you doing anyway, Iwas looking for Buster or a Buster.
What was your relationship like with Busterthe dog? I'm going to admit
that that he was not a fanof me as much as as much as
I was maybe a fan of him. You know, we had a we
had a dog when we lived inCanada. Unfortunately it didn't make its way
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to England. But uh, youknow, I was. I was a
fan of dogs. But yeah,he was definitely more of a Prima Donna
actor than I was. Star that'smister, kids soon us here what yes,
he really was. But tell usabout the bowling Alley scene, Paul,
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I mean, sure, thirty minutesinto the film is when you first
appear and you're being picked or notpicked for the team. I've never been
able to get a definitive answer onwhere that bowling alley was. You mean,
we've got to take Ricky. Butyou guys lost a toss, all
right? Come on? So itwas in England. It was. It
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was near the place where I lived. So that's south of south of London,
you know, in that vicinity ofPinewood Studios. And we weren't very
far away actually, And so thekids in the class or the kids in
my class were the kids in thein the scene, So they were all
from my classroom. And actually Ifound a photo of them. They dulled
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this bowling alley up in all thiswestern know stuff and and and I honestly
don't know how much of that wasoriginal and how much of that was that
was the set, but you knowit was. It was a it was
a real bowling alley there, itwas. We came inside, we did
the we did the scenes. Youknow that the kids were all excited to
be there, and I think theyfed them lunched. That was the you
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know, that was the value propositionfor them. And yeah, we did
a number of takes and and youknow, I want to be clear here.
My instructions were to you know,go right for a cutter ball better.
I'm a better bowler than that,but not by money, thank you.
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Uh. Yeah, it was thatwas fun. We know it's probably
a question you get a lot butto talk about obviously, listen, you
spend a lot of time with ChristopherReeve and filming those scenes. Talk about
the first you met him and howyou were introduced to him and and just
kind of like what that what youcan remember of that experience sure, you
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know, yeah, obviously met himand was introduced and and uh he was
he was very pleasant, and wetalked a little bit about scenes and things
like that, and and uh inconcert with the with the director to say,
hey, we want to do thingsthis way. This is the way
we're going to look at stuff.But it was a little bit more business
than than pleasure, you know,in that in that conversation. And and
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you know, here you are asa as a kid, you're kind of
awestruck. You know, this isthis is Superman kind of thing. So
you know, there was definitely somestar power there and and and that was
that was interesting. I had actuallymore conversations with Elena Lang, you know,
and at a tool you know,by by far, and she was
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just a lovely, very warm personat the time, and we hit it
off and she she kind of itwas sort of my onset mom really you
know, through this kind of stuff. And so I have very very fond
memories of that. I also,you know, spoke quite at length with
Richard Pryor in High River, youknow, and one of his first questions
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was, well, you know,how many movies have you been in kind
of thing? Well? None?And he was a quiet sort of guy
and just matter of fact, youknow, but but he was really a
really pleasant person to nice to chatwith. Excuse me, Superman, it's
me Ricky, Ricky from Smallville.I have to tell you. One of
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the most quoted piece of dialogue inthe film is you during the voiceover of
Superman burning Evil. He's not listeningto you, Ricky, Yes he is.
He can hear me. He's gotsuperhering You'll be great again. It's
a man. You're just in aslump. You're just in a slum.
You're just in a slum. You'llbe great again, I sayd Superman say
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that right. Yeah, that scenewas That scene was actually a lot of
fun. You know, the wholeNew York taxicab h you know s or
Metropolis taxicab, you know, kindof showing up in downtown Calgary, and
and the and the Louis Hotel,which is which had a storied past,
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not always in the best way,uh, you know, from from the
history there, and and you know, going into the bar and seeing the
you know, the flicking of thepeanuts and and so I actually pressed the
button for the explosives at Parent Studiosthat actually lit those off you know,
that behind behind the scenes stuff.Yeah, so that was what were some
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of them. Anyway, there werethere were multiple takes, but you know,
it's pretty uh, it's pretty fascinatingwhen you're sort of behind the scenes
and watching all this stuff. Andand at one point they gave me a
little uh dry run of flying,so they put me in a harness and
I was able to zoom around thestudio a bit and you know, pretty
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fascinating. So yeah, bringing backmemories. So that's that's good. What
about the actual premiere of the film. Sure, so, yeah, we
moved to move to Scotland and thenyou get an invite. Well, first
of all, there was a coupleof voice over things that we had to
do, so they shipped me backto London and had had a handler from
the studio who who drove me aroundand I think I was there for two
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or three nights type thing, andand you know a little bit of work
during the daytime. But and thenshipped me back and of course they you
know, got all their magic editingand all that kind of jazz to to
fluff up the film for release.And and then we get an invite for
the for the premiere and so itwas Leicester Square. So we went there
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and of course, now you go, I got to get a tuxedo,
you know that kind of thing,and right, so went and got fitted
for that, and the same withmy parents and and because it was my
sister and my parents and I whowere invited, and so we went,
you know, and there was areceiving line and you show up in this
old Rolls Royce limo and you know, they pick you up and drop you
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off at the receiving line. Yeah, you go and watch the movie and
then have dinner sort of thing.So it was it was a pretty fancy
there we go. That's awesome.That's Waldorf at the party after the premiere.
Okay, the Waldorf. Nice?Right, And then the next day
you went to a press luncheon andthere's a picture of your mom and you're
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eating pizza. Have you ever seenthat picture? Nice? I'm not sure
I have. Actually, i'll getthings to you, but I found these
last night. I appreciate that itsays she's encouraging her son to finish his
pizza. You remember that, ofcourse she is. She still does that.
So you got to be and someamazing places, even after the movie
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and you're on a TOPS card andsay that, Paul, you're in six
Tops cards and this is my favoriteone, spotting Superman And yeah, that
was a fun scene. Well,that's why why we why we're here.
We talked about so much about nostalgiaas Jay It's one of Jay's favorite words,
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which I love, and uh,you know, trying to hear new
stories from people that were there anduh, and all the great memories they've
had and so many of the actorsare still connected and are still communicating and
it is like one big, happyfamily and we love finding great folks like
you to relive all of this andhopefully it's all great memories. Paul,
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it was great having you on theCape Flunder Superman podcast today. I know
fans are going to be really excitedto learn some of these new things,
and hopefully coming up in the futurewill have an opportunity for you to interact
with them a little bit more.But as Jim will tell you, Superman
three does have a very very specialplace in the hearts of Christopher Reeve fans,
especially knowing that this new documentary iscoming out this fall, that it
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was put together by his children andpeople just want to connect with this character
and this actor and the people thatwere around him more now than ever,
which is pretty cool. You know, you mentioned that the four K version
of Supermanetreial, I'll definitely have toto watch that. In my position,
everybody, you know, growing up, said well, let's watch the movie.
Let's watch the movie and the movieson TV. And so I have
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seen the film a great many times, and which is fine, but you
know, at some point you kindof get sick of seeing yourself on on
camera and what, in your ownopinion, a crappy way of acting.
But you know, it is excitingto hear that people excited about this and
and interested, and it's certainly,yeah, it's it's a it's a it's
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a fabulous and experience for sure.I see Superman every day, you do.
Could you get me his autograph?Thank you so much, Paul,
And wow, what a great storyteller. Just exciting to hear about his time
on Superman three. And Jim,how about the fact that who knew that
he was, you know, lightingoff the explosives for the peanuts in the
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bar scene with Evil Superman. Youknow what I did the other day,
Jay I watched the four k uhdversion of the film, which of course
came out last year, but Ihave a version on my computer and I
was you know, I love makingscreenshots and I post them on social media
all the time. So I wasgoing frame by frame during the bottle explosions
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just to see how they did that. And you can see each bottle,
you know, the glass or whateverit was it was exploding. It was
really fun to watch that. Youknow, I call me crazy, but
I just love that scene. Anduh yeah, that's the kind of stories
that we can't wait to hear.Is the unexpected stuff, the little nuggets
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back there and yeah, that interesting. Here, Paul, come here,
you get to blow up the liquorbottles. Well, kid was probably the
kid was probably sitting around so manydays in a row, wait, and
they probably gave him something to do. That's great. So we're going to
do some more stuff with Paul comingup this year. We're excited to tell
you about, and we'll definitely getinto that soon. Let's just talk about
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a little bit of some of thethings that have happened already. First of
all, Superman and Concert was agreat time at the Walt Disney Concert Hall,
right at the Walt Disney Concert Hall, and it was our first time
being there. What a beautiful buildingit is. And we stayed in a
hotel right across the street, soit was easy to walk across and meet
all the fans. And of coursewe had many celebrity friends there, Sarah
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Douglas, we had David Michael Petrue, author of them Making a Superman,
and Ilia Salkind was even there andwhat an exciting evening. So many fans
were Jeez, they were so excitedto meet David. And I know he
stayed connected with us for many years. He's so into it with us and
we're grateful for that. Hey,we've also got coming up this September.
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Jay We've got a documentary. Yeah, it's called super Man and really the
story of Christopher Reeve after his accident. Put together by his family. It's
going to have release on September twentyfifth. It's something we've been waiting for.
I got to see a sneak peakof the trailer at CinemaCon this year
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in Las Vegas and it was justtremendous. There wasn't a dry eye in
the house. People that have seenthis documentary really are moved by it.
This is something again the family,rare behind the scenes videos and home movies
and things that we haven't seen beforeof Chris and his life, right,
and it runs just over one hundredminutes from what I understand, and one
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of my friends in France just toldme today it's coming there probably October,
so it is a very limited releasehere in the United States. It's coming
out through Fathom Events. It's aFathom event yep, right, and so
look for that. I've got onthe website recently and then typed in my
city and zip code and nothing's comeup yet, but I think it'll start
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populating hopefully soon, so you don'twant to hesitate on getting tickets for that.
And maybe we'll even see that ona home video release down the road.
I also would like to announce anotherdocumentary that's coming out, hopefully in
October. It's coming out through TCMFrance, so it'll be in Europe first
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and then hopefully in North America sometimein the near future after that. I've
been in touch with and met boththe writers and directors, as well as
the director of cinematography who actually cameto La Jade, and I got them
into the concert and three wonderful peoplefrom France and they interviewed me on camera.
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They interviewed David Michael Petru on camera, among many other stars who we
can't reveal yet, And I reallywish I could reveal the title of this
documentary, but I got to keepmy lip shut for a little bit longer.
This is Turner Classic Movies, TurnerClassic Movies France, so it's being
distributed through them first, and it'llbe in French and dubbed in English,
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so we'll see what that's like.But that's going to be about sixty minutes.
Now. The difference between that one, from what I understand versus Superman
the Christopher Reeve Story, which ofcourse debuted in Sundance Film Festival, is
that this is going to focus moreon the legacy of Christopher Reeve and his
portrayal of Superman and Clark Kent moreso than his family experience with his kids
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and Dana Reeve. So you know, it's a different approach. But I'm
really excited about it, very honoredthey asked me to get involved, so
they are really really great people.I'm going to do my best to try
to pronounce their names. The twowriters and directors are Philip Gauge and Philippe
Roarer, and I also promised themi'd mentioned their dp's name, and it's
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Prune Bregier, and I'm again apologizeif I didn't get your name quite right.
But three great people, so passionateabout their love of Christopher Eve and
his portrayal of Superman. So I'mreally looking forward to being able to share
more with you about this soon.Listen to any new documentaries. We're always
thrilled to hear about that, sothat'll be great. Other than that,
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I want to thank everybody for comingout to see Mark Pillow and Metropolis at
the Superman celebration. He had sucha good time, really good experience meeting
fans, people dressed as Nuclear Man. We had a guy dressed as Lenny
Luthor, which I'd never seen beforein my life. Who knew you could
coseplay Lenny Luthor. But that wasa lot of fun and hopefully we're going
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to have some more things coming upthroughout the year and some more podcast guests
as well. Jim absolutely Man,wasn't there a live action Nuclear Man in
costume? With Mark two? Therewas a live action Nuclear Yeah, and
he got on the stage and Mark, I think Mark imitated the nuclear Man
voice with him, and that youposted a video that was just great.
Mark, by the way, ison cameo, which is fantastic. As
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many of the Superman stars are Jackand Sarah and Aaron all on cameo.
So as the holidays come around andas birthdays and things like that, if
you've always wanted a message from youknow, stars of the Superman films,
now you can get that. Markloved doing it. He's done a bunch
already, and support all of ourSuperman stars with cameo. Hey, Jay,
I've got to let you and everybodyelse know about this if you don't
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know already. In June of thisyear, DC Comics released this gigantic,
oversized graphic novel in a hard slipcase called Absolute Superman. And the logo
for Superman is the Superman movie logo. And this is a collection of Gary
Frank and Jeff John's artwork and comicbooks. And as we know, many
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people consider Gary Frank the definitive ChristopherReeve artist of modern day. And I
just got it in the mail.It weighs almost six pounds and it's just
this enormous, impressive thing with lotsof unreleased artwork, alternate covers, and
Jeff Johns dedicates it to Richard Donner. Wow, and it's just a fantastic
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book, and he calls Richard notonly his friend but the super godfather.
And I never heard anybody called DickDonner that before. And it's just great.
But I flipped through the pages.Definitely recommend this. Not an inexpensive
book, but definitely worthwhile. We'reall Superman movie fans to pick up.
And that's available where, Jim,how do people get that? Well,
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On today's Cape Wonder Superman Podcast,we are celebrating nineteen eighty three's Superman three
and we're talking with yet another childactor who worked on the ground and in
the air, with Christopher Reeve Nothe Cape Wonders Superman Podcast with Jay Cowis
and Jim Bowers on Iinheart Radio.Hello again, and welcome to the Cape
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Wonder Superman Podcast in Detroit. I'mJay Towers and just outside of Las Vegas
as always the founder of Capewonder dotCom. Jim Bowers. Jim, Hello
to you. Hello Jay, Thankyou for that great intro. It is
nice and toasty here in Las Vegas. How about Detroit. Detroit is feeling
fine. We're excited. We've alreadyhad a great year in the world of
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Superman and we want to recap someof that coming up in just a little
bit. We also have some excitingthings to tell you about still to come.
But we're excited because we're going totalk to a guy that, again,
I mean, was right there inthe middle of our childhood on the
set of Superman three and a prettyprominent role. That's right, and he's
the guy who tells Superman he's justin a slump and then he'll be great
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again. And who is that PaulKaitler Little Ricky. Hello, Yeah,
thanks thanks for having me on that'ucha pleasure to have you with us,
Paul, And I have to tellyou that last year when Superman three came
out on four KUHD, it gotpeople excited all over again about these movies,
particularly the sequels, because they've neverlooked so good. So if you
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haven't seen that four K yet ofSuperman three, I think it's going to
blow your mind. One of thesenior most colorists at Warner Brothers in Burbank
was in charge of mastering this film, and I have to tell you,
I think it looks better than itdid on the big screen back in eighty
three. If you can't find one, we can certainly send one to you.
We have a couple, Paul,We'll send one to you. Whatever.
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Let's talk a little bit, solet's take people back. We know
that you can roll when you wereeleven years old, but for people that
don't know the story, just talka little bit about about how that happened
and maybe start the fact that youactually saw some of the original Superman film
in production. Yeah, that's right. And so when when the Original Superman
was being filmed, we were touristingaround Canada and we were heading parts.
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So I live in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, so it's on the sort
of western side of the of thecountry. Anyway, we were driving around
and this is my parents because Iclearly wasn't driving. I was like,
you know, seven or eight orwhatever however old I was. And we
did actually see them filming the partwhere where they're about to steal the rocket.
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This is the Lex Luthor and hisgang. And you know, you
drive up and there's a bunch ofmilitary sort of trucks and we're like,
wow, look at that. Andwe didn't really think too much of it,
not thinking it was necessarily a movie. But then you went and saw
the movie and well, heck,we were right there kind of thing.
And so that was kind of funny. And I seem to recall that I
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said, well, wouldn't it becool to be in a movie like that?
Right? And then lo and behold, you know a number of years
later, you know, here Iam or there I was, I guess
forty five years ago. That's incrediblethe timing of that, though, Yeah,
a bit weird, right, Andyou know, as you pass forward
to where I got the part,my family had moved to England and I
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was attending a they called it aninternational school, but it really was an
American school in London, south ofLondon. In my I think it was
fifth grade teacher that hey, therewas this this addition coming up, and
I think I think you should tryout. And you know, so paper
were consued and I brought this backto my parents and they go, well,
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yeah, that's easy, signed thatoff and you know, lo and
behold. A couple of weeks later, you know, they phoned me up
and said, hey, we'd liketo, you know, have you out
for an interview. So a coupleof ladies came to the school and we
sat down a little outside area thereand they interviewed me. And I don't
remember too too much of that interaction, but they were pleasant and just just
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talked. Really that was about it. And a couple of weeks after that,
you know, got a phone callagain and said, well, the
director would like to meet with you, and you know, we'll pick a
time and we'll come get you.And so they did just that and drove
me into me and my mom droveinto London and I had an interview with
Richard Wester and they said great,thanks very much. You know, a
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few weeks later later from that,they kind of focused and said, well
you're our pick from England. Andwe're like, oh, that's kind of
neat. Yeah, And so atthat point they were going to head across
candidate actually and find some other candidates, I guess, and they said,
well, you know, we'd likeyou to have a screen test, and
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so we did that and and againpicked me up and drove me off to
Pine the studios and your role inthere. Of course, that's an amazing
experience, and you know, justall the stuff that's going on and crazy
big buildings and warehouses and all thatstuff, and of course you don't know
what's necessarily going on, how thesausage is made, as it were,
quite yet, and you know,we we go through this screen test and
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you know, rolling into a dressingroom and and there's my name on the
wall. It didn't take very longand they said, okay, thanks very
much, and you know, offwe went. You're not a child actor.
It's not like you had done withshoals and things, and you're just
a regular kid that just happened tofill out the form. Yeah, absolutely,
so, you know, just agrade five kid, right and struggling
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with school, just like the restof every grade five kids, and not
a child actor, not a nota model, nothing. So and so
it was a bit it was abit weird, you know, to get
thrown into those situations sort of brandnew. But it was exciting as well.
I mean, you know, asan eleven year old, twelve year
old kid, you know, sotwo weeks later, you know, they
kind of phoned me up and said, well, congratulations, you've got the
part, and and things you know, happened fairly quickly from there, and
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you know, they they shipped meback to Calgary where you know where I
moved from to film you know,the various bits here, and so that
was kind of neat Rea, thisis Rickie, this is Quak. You
know. We stayed downtown at afancy ish hotel for a while, and
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yeah, it was it was prettyfascinating. I love that fancy ish Yes,
we've Jay and I have actually madea trek to Calgary and to the
Alberta area last summer, but HighRiver was certainly a fascinating place. We
stayed there and saw where you werewearing your baby blue suit and bow tie
and rights at the ceremony. Yeahit's a pretty spot, you know,
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and high River has grown quite abit since those those times. I guess
that's forty three years. I havetwo years anyway, Are we right in
saying that some of the first footagethat was shot with you was the flying
scenes? And was that done inwas that done in London? So some
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of the flying scenes were and socertainly the aerial shots where you know,
I'm unconscious and and Ricky wakes upand you know Superman, Superman, that's
me and you're in the air,that was kind of a blue screen I
guess they did at that time.You know. Obviously the scene where lifts
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me up and drops them down justoutside of the high River there Blackie was
the area and I wouldn't be ableto drive to that site if you if
you, if my life depended onit. Yeah, some of that stuff
was was was filmed you know insideyou know, I remember because they had
Christopher Reeve on this platform on thispost that hung out from the wall.
Yeah, I sat there in thissort of position that I was to be
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lying in and they made a plastercast and a model of me, and
and so that was one of thefirst things. I think the very first
scene that we filmed was some ofthe scenes at Atlanta Lang's house and you
know, I'm doing homework and Supermanor or whatever says you'll be at my
birthday party kind of thing or so, if I remember correctly, it was
about ten weeks of filming in thein the studio, and it was about
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ten weeks of filming in Canada,and I remember, you know, folks
on the sets and and you know, the other actors kind of saying,
yeah, there's a saying here's hurryup and wait and you know, go
get ready, and then you sitaround for a while and you know,
okay, well and true enough wedid right while they're getting everything ready and
all that kind of stuff. Soyou know, it took the advantage of
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the buffet line and all that stuff, and in watching, you know what
they're kind of up to. Didyou get your own director's chair with your
name on it? I think therewas a chair at various locations. For
me. It depends on what wasgoing on, but it was it was
very chaotic. I mean, you'redoing stuff and then there's you know,
they got to reset the shots andthen go back and get makeup done and
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things like that, and it wasbusy. Almost the same number of people
who have walked on the Moon havehad the opportunity to fly with Christopher Reeve
as Superman and to be a partof that that little little group of just
precious amount of people that have hadthat experience. I know, at the
time, you're a kid and you'redoing something cool. But looking back,
yeah, fancy that fan, seeyou. And it's just we saw that
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movie as kids, so it's itwas as measurementrizing does as it probably was
for you. Yeah, fair enough, you know. It's it's sometimes you
forget how unique an experience this is, right, And you know, I
did the filming and then we livedin a time but we'd actually moved to
Scotland right after the filming, sothe filming was done and I was about
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two weeks late for school in Scotland. It just became a normal school kid
again, right, And so Scotland, Aberdeen Stalvin is about as far from
from Hollywood as you can possibly get. And I remember distinctly not trying to
sell myself based on this notoriety youknow, through the movie. So I
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really downplayed it quite a bit,you know, growing up. So now
I've got a really good story atthe at the cocktail bar or a corporate
events or whatever. You know what, name name one thing that's unique about
you, Well I got a prettyunique one kind of thing. Well,
speaking of flying scenes, I thinkfor me one of my favorite from all
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the Christophee films is when Chris launchesin the air holding you leaving the wheat
field thrasher. That's a really uniqueflying moment that's you don't see again.
By that film, they had reallyperfected the flying techniques, and I know
Christopherie was very much I had ahand in that, encouraging and pushing the
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British crew to improve it and refineit so he could land on one foot
okay, or he can make itright fluid and that takeoff is really great
and it doesn't look like you're onwires. It looks like he's really holding
you. He is actually holding methere, so you know he there was
a joke on set that I youknow, I kind of said, oh,
at least you know Superman can holdlike eighty pounds however much I weighed.
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So but yeah, that that's exactlywhat it was. And I mean
that combine harvester was was real.And you know, they assured me that
they sort of disconnected the threshing wheel. You know, that's sort of important
for both Christopher Evan my and mycontinued success. And so when he was
able to you know, stop itwith his with his hands kind of thing.
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And and uh, of course theimage of the wheels sort of cherning
in the sand and they're in thedirt, and you know that was that
was pretty neat. But you know, I had my eyes closed. I'm
lying there, you know, restingon my rock pillow, and you know,
it's it was a bit nerve wracking, and you know that, you
know, they assured me that no, no, this is under control.
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We know what we're doing. We'reprofessional, you know kind of thing,
and you have to trust them.And sure enough it all worked out super
well. Nobody but the people thecompany hires gets to fly with Superman.
I mean it's great, it's it'sgreat. I mean it's it's perfect.
And you could say he'd make everybody'sholiday file working we were flying, Mom,
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what were you doing anyway, Iwas looking for Buster or a Buster.
What was your relationship like with Busterthe dog? I'm going to admit
that that he was not a fanof me as much as as much as
I was maybe a fan of him. You know, we had a we
had a dog when we lived inCanada. Unfortunately it didn't make its way
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to England. But uh, youknow, I was. I was a
fan of dogs. But yeah,he was definitely more of a Prima Donna
actor than I was. Star that'smister, kids soon us here what yes,
he really was. But tell usabout the bowling Alley scene, Paul,
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I mean, sure, thirty minutesinto the film is when you first
appear and you're being picked or notpicked for the team. I've never been
able to get a definitive answer onwhere that bowling alley was. You mean,
we've got to take Ricky. Butyou guys lost a toss, all
right? Come on? So itwas in England. It was. It
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was near the place where I lived. So that's south of south of London,
you know, in that vicinity ofPinewood Studios. And we weren't very
far away actually, And so thekids in the class or the kids in
my class were the kids in thein the scene, So they were all
from my classroom. And actually Ifound a photo of them. They dulled
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this bowling alley up in all thiswestern know stuff and and and I honestly
don't know how much of that wasoriginal and how much of that was that
was the set, but you knowit was. It was a it was
a real bowling alley there, itwas. We came inside, we did
the we did the scenes. Youknow that the kids were all excited to
be there, and I think theyfed them lunched. That was the you
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know, that was the value propositionfor them. And yeah, we did
a number of takes and and youknow, I want to be clear here.
My instructions were to you know,go right for a cutter ball better.
I'm a better bowler than that,but not by money, thank you.
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Uh. Yeah, it was thatwas fun. We know it's probably
a question you get a lot butto talk about obviously, listen, you
spend a lot of time with ChristopherReeve and filming those scenes. Talk about
the first you met him and howyou were introduced to him and and just
kind of like what that what youcan remember of that experience sure, you
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know, yeah, obviously met himand was introduced and and uh he was
he was very pleasant, and wetalked a little bit about scenes and things
like that, and and uh inconcert with the with the director to say,
hey, we want to do thingsthis way. This is the way
we're going to look at stuff.But it was a little bit more business
than than pleasure, you know,in that in that conversation. And and
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you know, here you are asa as a kid, you're kind of
awestruck. You know, this isthis is Superman kind of thing. So
you know, there was definitely somestar power there and and and that was
that was interesting. I had actuallymore conversations with Elena Lang, you know,
and at a tool you know,by by far, and she was
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just a lovely, very warm personat the time, and we hit it
off and she she kind of itwas sort of my onset mom really you
know, through this kind of stuff. And so I have very very fond
memories of that. I also,you know, spoke quite at length with
Richard Pryor in High River, youknow, and one of his first questions
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was, well, you know,how many movies have you been in kind
of thing? Well? None?And he was a quiet sort of guy
and just matter of fact, youknow, but but he was really a
really pleasant person to nice to chatwith. Excuse me, Superman, it's
me Ricky, Ricky from Smallville.I have to tell you. One of
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the most quoted piece of dialogue inthe film is you during the voiceover of
Superman burning Evil. He's not listeningto you, Ricky, Yes he is.
He can hear me. He's gotsuperhering You'll be great again. It's
a man. You're just in aslump. You're just in a slum.
You're just in a slum. You'llbe great again, I sayd Superman say
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that right. Yeah, that scenewas That scene was actually a lot of
fun. You know, the wholeNew York taxicab h you know s or
Metropolis taxicab, you know, kindof showing up in downtown Calgary, and
and the and the Louis Hotel,which is which had a storied past,
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not always in the best way,uh, you know, from from the
history there, and and you know, going into the bar and seeing the
you know, the flicking of thepeanuts and and so I actually pressed the
button for the explosives at Parent Studiosthat actually lit those off you know,
that behind behind the scenes stuff.Yeah, so that was what were some
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of them. Anyway, there werethere were multiple takes, but you know,
it's pretty uh, it's pretty fascinatingwhen you're sort of behind the scenes
and watching all this stuff. Andand at one point they gave me a
little uh dry run of flying,so they put me in a harness and
I was able to zoom around thestudio a bit and you know, pretty
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fascinating. So yeah, bringing backmemories. So that's that's good. What
about the actual premiere of the film. Sure, so, yeah, we
moved to move to Scotland and thenyou get an invite. Well, first
of all, there was a coupleof voice over things that we had to
do, so they shipped me backto London and had had a handler from
the studio who who drove me aroundand I think I was there for two
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or three nights type thing, andand you know a little bit of work
during the daytime. But and thenshipped me back and of course they you
know, got all their magic editingand all that kind of jazz to to
fluff up the film for release.And and then we get an invite for
the for the premiere and so itwas Leicester Square. So we went there
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and of course, now you go, I got to get a tuxedo,
you know that kind of thing,and right, so went and got fitted
for that, and the same withmy parents and and because it was my
sister and my parents and I whowere invited, and so we went,
you know, and there was areceiving line and you show up in this
old Rolls Royce limo and you know, they pick you up and drop you
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off at the receiving line. Yeah, you go and watch the movie and
then have dinner sort of thing.So it was it was a pretty fancy
there we go. That's awesome.That's Waldorf at the party after the premiere.
Okay, the Waldorf. Nice?Right, And then the next day
you went to a press luncheon andthere's a picture of your mom and you're
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eating pizza. Have you ever seenthat picture? Nice? I'm not sure
I have. Actually, i'll getthings to you, but I found these
last night. I appreciate that itsays she's encouraging her son to finish his
pizza. You remember that, ofcourse she is. She still does that.
So you got to be and someamazing places, even after the movie
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and you're on a TOPS card andsay that, Paul, you're in six
Tops cards and this is my favoriteone, spotting Superman And yeah, that
was a fun scene. Well,that's why why we why we're here.
We talked about so much about nostalgiaas Jay It's one of Jay's favorite words,
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which I love, and uh,you know, trying to hear new
stories from people that were there anduh, and all the great memories they've
had and so many of the actorsare still connected and are still communicating and
it is like one big, happyfamily and we love finding great folks like
you to relive all of this andhopefully it's all great memories. Paul,
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it was great having you on theCape Flunder Superman podcast today. I know
fans are going to be really excitedto learn some of these new things,
and hopefully coming up in the futurewill have an opportunity for you to interact
with them a little bit more.But as Jim will tell you, Superman
three does have a very very specialplace in the hearts of Christopher Reeve fans,
especially knowing that this new documentary iscoming out this fall, that it
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was put together by his children andpeople just want to connect with this character
and this actor and the people thatwere around him more now than ever,
which is pretty cool. You know, you mentioned that the four K version
of Supermanetreial, I'll definitely have toto watch that. In my position,
everybody, you know, growing up, said well, let's watch the movie.
Let's watch the movie and the movieson TV. And so I have
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seen the film a great many times, and which is fine, but you
know, at some point you kindof get sick of seeing yourself on on
camera and what, in your ownopinion, a crappy way of acting.
But you know, it is excitingto hear that people excited about this and
and interested, and it's certainly,yeah, it's it's a it's a it's
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a fabulous and experience for sure.I see Superman every day, you do.
Could you get me his autograph?Thank you so much, Paul,
And wow, what a great storyteller. Just exciting to hear about his time
on Superman three. And Jim,how about the fact that who knew that
he was, you know, lightingoff the explosives for the peanuts in the
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bar scene with Evil Superman. Youknow what I did the other day,
Jay I watched the four k uhdversion of the film, which of course
came out last year, but Ihave a version on my computer and I
was you know, I love makingscreenshots and I post them on social media
all the time. So I wasgoing frame by frame during the bottle explosions
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just to see how they did that. And you can see each bottle,
you know, the glass or whateverit was it was exploding. It was
really fun to watch that. Youknow, I call me crazy, but
I just love that scene. Anduh yeah, that's the kind of stories
that we can't wait to hear.Is the unexpected stuff, the little nuggets
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back there and yeah, that interesting. Here, Paul, come here,
you get to blow up the liquorbottles. Well, kid was probably the
kid was probably sitting around so manydays in a row, wait, and
they probably gave him something to do. That's great. So we're going to
do some more stuff with Paul comingup this year. We're excited to tell
you about, and we'll definitely getinto that soon. Let's just talk about
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a little bit of some of thethings that have happened already. First of
all, Superman and Concert was agreat time at the Walt Disney Concert Hall,
right at the Walt Disney Concert Hall, and it was our first time
being there. What a beautiful buildingit is. And we stayed in a
hotel right across the street, soit was easy to walk across and meet
all the fans. And of coursewe had many celebrity friends there, Sarah
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Douglas, we had David Michael Petrue, author of them Making a Superman,
and Ilia Salkind was even there andwhat an exciting evening. So many fans
were Jeez, they were so excitedto meet David. And I know he
stayed connected with us for many years. He's so into it with us and
we're grateful for that. Hey,we've also got coming up this September.
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Jay We've got a documentary. Yeah, it's called super Man and really the
story of Christopher Reeve after his accident. Put together by his family. It's
going to have release on September twentyfifth. It's something we've been waiting for.
I got to see a sneak peakof the trailer at CinemaCon this year
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in Las Vegas and it was justtremendous. There wasn't a dry eye in
the house. People that have seenthis documentary really are moved by it.
This is something again the family,rare behind the scenes videos and home movies
and things that we haven't seen beforeof Chris and his life, right,
and it runs just over one hundredminutes from what I understand, and one
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of my friends in France just toldme today it's coming there probably October,
so it is a very limited releasehere in the United States. It's coming
out through Fathom Events. It's aFathom event yep, right, and so
look for that. I've got onthe website recently and then typed in my
city and zip code and nothing's comeup yet, but I think it'll start
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populating hopefully soon, so you don'twant to hesitate on getting tickets for that.
And maybe we'll even see that ona home video release down the road.
I also would like to announce anotherdocumentary that's coming out, hopefully in
October. It's coming out through TCMFrance, so it'll be in Europe first
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and then hopefully in North America sometimein the near future after that. I've
been in touch with and met boththe writers and directors, as well as
the director of cinematography who actually cameto La Jade, and I got them
into the concert and three wonderful peoplefrom France and they interviewed me on camera.
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They interviewed David Michael Petru on camera, among many other stars who we
can't reveal yet, And I reallywish I could reveal the title of this
documentary, but I got to keepmy lip shut for a little bit longer.
This is Turner Classic Movies, TurnerClassic Movies France, so it's being
distributed through them first, and it'llbe in French and dubbed in English,
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so we'll see what that's like.But that's going to be about sixty minutes.
Now. The difference between that one, from what I understand versus Superman
the Christopher Reeve Story, which ofcourse debuted in Sundance Film Festival, is
that this is going to focus moreon the legacy of Christopher Reeve and his
portrayal of Superman and Clark Kent moreso than his family experience with his kids
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and Dana Reeve. So you know, it's a different approach. But I'm
really excited about it, very honoredthey asked me to get involved, so
they are really really great people.I'm going to do my best to try
to pronounce their names. The twowriters and directors are Philip Gauge and Philippe
Roarer, and I also promised themi'd mentioned their dp's name, and it's
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Prune Bregier, and I'm again apologizeif I didn't get your name quite right.
But three great people, so passionateabout their love of Christopher Eve and
his portrayal of Superman. So I'mreally looking forward to being able to share
more with you about this soon.Listen to any new documentaries. We're always
thrilled to hear about that, sothat'll be great. Other than that,
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I want to thank everybody for comingout to see Mark Pillow and Metropolis at
the Superman celebration. He had sucha good time, really good experience meeting
fans, people dressed as Nuclear Man. We had a guy dressed as Lenny
Luthor, which I'd never seen beforein my life. Who knew you could
coseplay Lenny Luthor. But that wasa lot of fun and hopefully we're going
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to have some more things coming upthroughout the year and some more podcast guests
as well. Jim absolutely Man,wasn't there a live action Nuclear Man in
costume? With Mark two? Therewas a live action Nuclear Yeah, and
he got on the stage and Mark, I think Mark imitated the nuclear Man
voice with him, and that youposted a video that was just great.
Mark, by the way, ison cameo, which is fantastic. As
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many of the Superman stars are Jackand Sarah and Aaron all on cameo.
So as the holidays come around andas birthdays and things like that, if
you've always wanted a message from youknow, stars of the Superman films,
now you can get that. Markloved doing it. He's done a bunch
already, and support all of ourSuperman stars with cameo. Hey, Jay,
I've got to let you and everybodyelse know about this if you don't
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know already. In June of thisyear, DC Comics released this gigantic,
oversized graphic novel in a hard slipcase called Absolute Superman. And the logo
for Superman is the Superman movie logo. And this is a collection of Gary
Frank and Jeff John's artwork and comicbooks. And as we know, many
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people consider Gary Frank the definitive ChristopherReeve artist of modern day. And I
just got it in the mail.It weighs almost six pounds and it's just
this enormous, impressive thing with lotsof unreleased artwork, alternate covers, and
Jeff Johns dedicates it to Richard Donner. Wow, and it's just a fantastic
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book, and he calls Richard notonly his friend but the super godfather.
And I never heard anybody called DickDonner that before. And it's just great.
But I flipped through the pages.Definitely recommend this. Not an inexpensive
book, but definitely worthwhile. We'reall Superman movie fans to pick up.
And that's available where, Jim,how do people get that? Well,
(29:56):
you can get it on Amazon.There are also a couple of links on
our social media pages that fans havesent me where you can get it at
a discount. So just check outthe Caped Wonder Superman podcast Facebook page,
look for the post that I recentlymade about Absolute Superman. Go down to
the comments and you'll see a coupleof purchase links. It is about one
(30:19):
hundred and fifty bucks from Amazon,but I think you can get a cheaper
elsewhere if you act quickly. Ithink this is going to be big,
definitely one of the biggest, physicallybiggest graphic novel collections I've ever seen,
and it's really impressive at this size. Don't forget everybody. You can continue
to follow the Cape Wonder Superman podcaston social media, of course, look
(30:40):
for our videos on Instagram, onx and of course for all the behind
the scenes photos and stories and greatarticles. Cape Wonder dot com has been
around a long time, Jim,and still going strong, still going strong.
We're approaching our twenty third year.And I have to tell you on
the air, Jay, how muchI appreciate, and I know so many
other fans do, how much dedicationand time and effort you put into these
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amazing social media reels, these videosthat show behind the scenes footage, rare
photos, et cetera. They're prettypopular because we're seeing other people show an
interest, if you will, andso keep checking those out. Jay loves
doing those for caped Wonder and forall of you. And we'll keep finding
more rare photographs and slides and keepscanning and sharing and having a great time.
(31:30):
So make sure you pick up thefour k's if you haven't yet,
because it's the best way to enjoythese movies today. Sounds great, all
right, everybody. We'll talk toyou again on the next episode of the
Cape Wonder Superman podcasts. Have aWonderful Day and don't forget Day super You've
been listening to the Cape Wonders Supermanpodcast on the iHeartRadio app. Jay Towers
(31:52):
is a Detroit TV anchor and morningradio host on one hundred point three WNIC
Detroit. Following Jay on Instagram andTwitter at Jay Towers. Jim Bowers is
the founder and editor of kapewonder dotcom, the home of Cape Wonder Superman
imagery. Follow Jim on Instagram atCape Wonder and on Twitter at Cape Wonder Jim
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