Slightly Messy Show: You Haven't Even Seen It!!

On this weeks episode of the Slightly Messy Show Mike and Meaghan fight about the Joker 2, talk about musicals, then we dive into hurricanes and mental health. Yeah I can't explain how those are connected but we seemed to make it work. It's a wild ADD trip. If I'm being honest but we have a really nice heart to heart by the end of the podcast you don't want to miss. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
I have a problem, Michael, and I am so sorry
that you faced part of it. There is one joy
of being single with no kids, and it's I have
no real responsibilities.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
This is the slightly messy Show with Mike and Megan.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Slate means a messy shows, messy Mike and Megan. It's
a slightly messy show with Mike and Megan.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Did you like my singing there? He's like, uh, like
I hit those notes.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
The god you said it's so good.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
You are a liar. You are a liar. You are
a liar. Can you take me high?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
You?

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh my god, Creed, are you? Are you here?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Are you here with us? Yes? That was gonna go
down a way weird rabbit hole. So what speaking of?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
You know what that reminds me of? It reminds me
of the stupid, stupid movie that they've completely ruined and
I we talked about it before the podcast and you
I have a feeling you're gonna tell me you loved
it and it's going to make me angry. But let's
discuss the new Joker movie. It should have just been
called Joker Too, it's not. It's called Joker Father. And yeah,

(01:30):
and from what I'm told it's part musical, part like
fan fiction, rewrite at the end, part a million other things.
And let me first off start by saying, first off,
it is it is a slightly messag show. My name
is Mike from the B ninety three Morning Show along
with Megan from Mojo in the Morning. We do this
every Wednesday. You can check out the podcast on the
More Mojo podcast on Apple or iHeart or wherever you

(01:53):
get podcasts. So I have only heard that this is
those things, right. I've only seen TikTok, I've only read reviews.
I've only looked at Rotten Tomatoes. I have not watched
this movie yet.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, nobody has, and yet everybody seems to have an opinion.
But please fucking continue.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
But I'll tell you right now. When they said it's
part musical, I went, m what, Because I do like musicals.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
My favorite one is the Greatest Showman.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Now I am not super cultured super cultured in musicals.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
I'll say that.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
No, he knew that every musical person knew that when
you said your favorite was your favorite was the Greatest Showman.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
That's fine.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
This thing really works when you mumble your way through it.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, that's fine, I don't care, but this movie was
not supposed to be. This is not the hey, we're
gonna turn this into a slight musical type of movie
like this is just like, hey, this is a second
uh part two to what a movie that was pretty dark,
pretty wild, came out of kind of no where and

(03:00):
then won a bunch of awards and then just butchered it.
Just from what I hear, just butchered a movie that
could have been very good. Now again, I have not
seen this movie, but everybody can't be wrong. If everybody
says this movie sucks, there's gotta be some bit of

(03:20):
truth to it.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Tell tell me why that's not correct, Mega makers.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
So here's the thing. Number one, I think people in
general just don't like musicals right off the bat. And
I don't know why everybody is acting like this being
a musical was a surprise either y'all really be do
uh either? Oh my, I'm sorry, it's been a long day, Mike.

(03:44):
I swear to god, I have good points for this.
It just might take a second for them to come out.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Sure, Sure, I'm here ready.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
So I don't know why people are acting like it
wasn't announced. Doesn't music cool because it was a long
time ago, like in twenty twenty two when Lady Gaga
was announced as being a part of this. It is
because there was going to be musical elements of the movie.
Number one.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
That's something I remember hearing.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Number two. If you paid attention to any of the trailers.
In the most recent one that was released before the
movie came out, Joaquin Phoenix has heard singing three different
songs in the trailer, so it's not even like, yeah,
there was a musical number. There are three different musical
numbers featured in the trailer and him singing them, and

(04:30):
Lady Guy got singing a different song, so we knew
there were gonna be four different songs from the last
trailer alone.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
I think at some point though I just thought it
was I never if you would ask me, I watched
this movie very the first one, like a few times.
I was excited when they announced the second one. I
can tell you this. I don't remember them ever mentioning
music and the singing in it. If there was singing.
If there was singing, I'm assuming good trailers. I don't
remember hearing the singing in the trailers, but if I

(04:58):
did hear it, I would have assume.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
I would assume that this.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Is just him being crazy, Like there's no actual it's
not gonna be a it's gonna be a musical.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
You're telling me there's a Marvel musical.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
But this is why it's funny to me that everybody's
talking about how it's a musical and what you just said, Mike,
and you're like, if it was him spiraling out of
control and he's going crazy, it's the Second Joker. What
happened in the First Joker where it was kind of
confusing as to whether or not it was real life
or not what happened. Yeah, there was like a recurring

(05:33):
theme him being on that late night show over and
over and over again, was like is this real or
is this in his mind? Is this real? Or is
this in his mind? They did the same thing with music.
This time it was is this real or is this
in his mind? And it's really interesting how it's all done. Now,
let's break down superhero movies in general, because personally I

(05:55):
love a good superhero movie. Same but also I think
if you're a movie fan or just like a fan
of Hollywood in general, you know that the superhero movie
industry actually has kind of destroyed movie making because they
were so cheap to make and made so much money.
It kind of changed how producers and backers funded movies,

(06:17):
and so now we're always talking about how cookie cutter
everything is and how they've ruined Hollywood and if it's
not a superhero movie, then it's not good and it's
got to be filled with explosions. Well, we finally have
a superhero movie that's taking the artistic choice and we're
shitting all over it in a way that is wild.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
It's terrible, but you don't know it's seen it. I
probably won't see it.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
I'm not gonna pay money to see it because they
took a story which I know. I don't want to
spoil anything, but I know I had an idea of
going into it on the ending, right. I had an idea,
and I'm pretty sure that I'm right, based on some
stupid tiktoks that I've watched, I'm pretty sure I'm right.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
On the very end.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
The outcome could have told you that from the beginning,
but there this could have been a origin story for
an incredibly dark villain that they haven't done before. Now
they the reason that the cookie Cutter stuff happened with
the Marvel movies is because they were they were doing
the same damn thing every single time, and then they decided,

(07:21):
you know what, PG thirteen isn't the route to go.
Let's take it up a notch. Then Deadpool comes along.
He changes up the game a little bit. Right now,
we have an opportunity for one of the greatest villains
in comic book history, that is DC. So this is
not the best, but it's still good. It's still very,
very good. They had a chance to make this incredibly
dark and incredible, and for me personally, this might not

(07:45):
be everybody's take on this, but I just think the
music throws it off completely.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Now I haven't seen it, and I could.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
I am opening the right to change my mind once
I watch this, but I'm gonna tell you right now,
from what I've read, from what I've heard from the uh,
from what from every review that I've ever seen, there's
people walking out of the theaters.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
There's nobody is.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Is There's even videos of like Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga,
and I don't know it's lip readers who knows saying
like this is this is horrible?

Speaker 1 (08:16):
That was so not even accurate. It's not even funny.
But here's here's what I will say for the people
who are walking out of theaters. I truly want to know, Okay,
at what point did you think the movie was so
miserable that you.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Walked out that's good?

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Was it just because it was a musical, or was
there something that happened within the story that you just
thought this is terrible? Now, I think when I defend
this movie, everybody's like, you thought it was good. I
didn't think it was as bad as everybody said it was.
I think it's like a solid six and a half.
Like I do not think it's a great movie. I
don't think right now. I just looked it up again

(08:53):
on Rotten Tomatoes. I believe it has like a three
point three, and then on it has like a five
point eight or a six point one or something. I
don't have it pulled up in front of me anymore.
But I think it becomes popular to jump on bandwagons,
and specifically with bad movie reviews, because you don't want
everybody to say the movie is bad, and you say

(09:14):
it was good, and now we can't take your opinion
as credible because you said a bad movie was good.
So I think sometimes when a few bad reviews come out,
immediately everybody goes, oh, it must be bad or I'm
not good at reviewing movies' that's my first opinion. And
then on top of that, it's not terrible, it's not great.

(09:35):
You can say a movie is in the middle. And
I think this movie specifically shouldn't even be called a musical,
because a musical keeps the narration going and the storyline moving,
whereas the music incorporated and Joker was not narration from
characters of scenes, but more of a way to evoke

(09:56):
the emotional spiral of a mental health decline. And so
instead of it saying like then singing my lines at you,
that's not what's happening, They're singing a song about a
feeling that makes you feel that same feeling while they're spiraling.
It's more of an opera than it is a music hall.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Okay, I understand what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
I don't think I agree that there are times where
people are afraid to say what they think because they
think they're gonna get shit on for what their opinion is.
And I'm not the one to say, like, if I
liked it, I liked it. If I didn't like it,
I didn't like it. I've already said I have not
seen this movie. I am hesitant and very cautious to
pay money to go watch this movie because this is

(10:40):
an overwhelmingly this is bad response. This isn't one of
those well it's fifty to fifty. I don't really know
if I like it. I don't really know if I
do like it. If I had to pick the amount,
it's like eighty twenty. It feels like, again, this is
just what I've seen on the internet. I've yet to
meet a person. You were the first person I've met
who said, no, this wasn't You didn't even say it
was good. You just said it wasn't as bad as

(11:02):
everybody's saying, which I respect that. I respect that because
I that's I mean, that's that's your opinion. But like,
outside of that, it probably isn't as shitty as But they.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Should just they should just embrace this.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
I would just at this point just embrace it because
people are more interested once they think it's not that good,
like they want like, is it that bad?

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Maybe I should go check it out.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
So here's what I will say when I walked out
of that theater. I immediately thought, if it was anybody buddy
other than Joaquin and Lady Gaga, this would have been
absolute fucking garbage. Okay, truly needed the acting ability of Joaquin,
and quite frankly, Lady Gaga is a pretty good actress.

(11:45):
I don't like if you have the key and her
and stuff, she's terrible. She's pretty good. And I think
she genuinely thought, and this is where I feel bad
for her. I think she thought this was her shot
at an Oscar because everybody thought Joaquin might win it
for The Joker the last movie, and she thought, oh,
it's a musical, and I'm going to act, well, this
might be my opportunity to get my egot. And I

(12:08):
don't think that's going to be the case. But I
do think she and him did a fenomenal job with
the material. He sings really well, she acts her ass off,
and it's interesting to watch the two of them. There
are huge plot holes in this movie that are actually irritating,
and I wish people were talking about that instead of

(12:29):
the fact that it was a musical.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
So it's I think it's I don't think it's only
the musical thing.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
That's just the first thing that I took away from
it was that there's also there also is what you're
saying right now is the plot hole? Is that a
lot of it issitating because it's a in to nerd
out a little bit over like comic books, it is
a is it one of the greatest super villains of
like our childhood, like one of the greatest. And then

(12:54):
Harley Quinn, who everybody's got a mindset of kind of
who she is. I thought the pictures of Lady Gaga,
pictures of the movie, I'm like, she's gonna she's perfect
for this role, absolutely perfect. And then and then for
it to be what it was again, I only know
certain parts, and I have an idea of the end,
and I'm pretty sure based on a few things, like

(13:17):
if you really nerd it out about who Joker really.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Is, like you kind of know, you kind of get
an idea.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
So I just I feel like they they did so
well on the first one and then like half assed
the second one, Like it wasn't what it wasn't the same,
it wasn't the same vision even as the first one.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
In my opinion, again, I have yet to see it.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
I also you know what I also just did, and
this is gonna fucking upset you even more. I just
watched Beetle Juice for the first time. Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. I
didn't get it. I didn't the original, the original movie
with Michael Keaton and the original I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
I'm sorry. If you've ever not heard any of her,
maybe are new to this podcast. I fucking love Beetle Tree.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I know you do. I know you do. That's why
I say, why did you not get it?

Speaker 3 (14:03):
I didn't understand because I think it was from a
certain time in our life and you remember it then
and you just hold on to the bad.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
No, if that's what makes it.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Great, No, I promise you it's not a fucking hook
hook if Robin Williams Peter Pan hook, you have to
watch it as a kid or a hit. I promise
you Beatles Juice that.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
I watched it for the first time and I didn't
get it.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Now, I will also say when I when I, when
I truly like want to get an opinion on somebody,
I'll do it three times.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
I call it the Mortal Kombat role. I do it
with songs. It's stupid.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
I know, but I do it with songs because I
don't feel like I feel like you have to be
in a mindset.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, you, I can't watch. I can't watch.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
I watched Beetlejuice because the new Beetlejuice movie was coming out. Okay,
that's not fair, because I've I've I've watched other I've
watched that. In general, I've watched other Michael Keaton movies
where I have him in my brain as something else.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
And then the the the the when did that movie
come out? Eighties? Nineties?

Speaker 1 (14:59):
There's yeah, late eighties, early nineties.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
The effects are so outdated that like it's hard to know,
there's your opinion.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
I'm sorry, so I'm genuinely listening.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
They're very outdated.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
So like you noticed little things that you wouldn't have
noticed then, and you wouldn't Yeah, you wouldn't have noticed.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
As a kid.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
What I'm so curious his.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Makeup and stuff is just like this is just like unreal.
I don't know, it's that realistic.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
I'm sorry. Okay, he's a demon. What does a realistic
demon look like to you? And also, I think there's
a difference between what I actually really appreciate about Beatle Juice,
And here's where I'm gonna nerd out. The movie came
out in nineteen eighty eighth. It uses practical effects, which is,
and I know you haven't seen the new one yet,

(15:50):
what they implemented in the majority of instances in the
new movie is practical evecs versus CGI, so that it
doesn't look outdated and old. And it looks very much
similar to the original. And I loved the fact that
it even though the movies are thirty odd years forty
odd years of close to forty years apart, they look

(16:11):
like they fit together still.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Okay, which I respect that.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
I love Tim Burton too, honestly, and I part of
me has seen parts of that movie and didn't realize it,
like that part with the long when his face gets
really long until like a point, Yes, I've seen that before,
and I don't know where I've seen that before. Now
I will say I haven't watched it during Halloween, so
I'm gonna watch it again, and I haven't been in
the right the same mindset this was. I forced myself

(16:38):
to watch it because I knew it's an iconic movie,
and I, for some reason have there's like random iconic
movies that I haven't watched, and I don't know why.
There's no rhyme or reason. I just didn't and then
never got back to it. And that's one of the
ones that I'll give three chances. But off the bat
right away, my first thought was, I don't get why
everybody loves this. I don't hate it. It's a good
tim Burton movie. It's a great Tim Burton movie. But

(17:01):
I didn't like I didn't understand why, like everybody was
so excited. I in fact, my introduction to Beetlejuice was
the cartoons. It wasn't even that movie. I watched the
cartoons before I ever watched this movie.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
You are telling me you didn't eat it the fuck up.
When she goes, if you do not let me get
this house and get me.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
I will go with that. I love her. I do
love her so much.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
I have a sign in my bathroom at my house
in Toledo. I left it behind, unfortunately, but it's my
favorite line from Beetle Juice, and it's when she's touring
the house and she goes, oh, look an indoor outhouse.
I fucking love that line. Like there's so many good
parts of that movie.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
I cannot Is here a movie though? Is there a
movie though?

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Let me, there's got to be a movie that you
that everybody says I is iconic, Right, is a classic?

Speaker 2 (17:54):
People quote it?

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Everybody knows it that you've never seen. Yeah, Goonies, Okay, okay, watch.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
I know truffle Shuffle. But I don't think Goodies is
going to be bad.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
I don't think it's gonna be what everybody says it
is either. I think on the opposite end of everybody
saying everything is bad, right, people saying things are bad.
When people are like this is the greatest movie of
all time and you go to watch it, you almost
have that same effect of like, yeah, I mean it.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Was, it was. It was good.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
I get why it was good. So tell me why
it's iconic. Tell me why it's one of the greatest,
because it is.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Right.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
I know that that Friendship and the truffle shuffle. No,
that's still iconic. That's not an age thing, Mike. If
you don't value friendship and the truffles. Talking about beetlejuicello like,
what's iconic about beetlejuice? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, tell me what?

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Honest to god, I truly think it's the comedy of
Catherine O'Hara matched with the Michael Keaton was known as
a serious actor and just seeing him be a fucking
dufas is fun to watch. And I love hearing him
like he had only serious roles and he did it.
Interview with hit Jimmy Fallon was it on the Tonight

(19:04):
Show and he was like, I loved it because I
just thought, how do she can I.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
Get the whole time he's talking real dud and he's hunched,
and he he walks with his hips a forward like
he like, and he's just like creepy and weird and
he's just an idiot, and I love that.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
It's silly. It's so silly.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
I gotta watch it. I got it like mindset. I
gotta be in the right like I was the same
with songs. I'm sure you do this too. I have
to be there. I listened to it once in the car,
I listen to it once on the phone in some
air pods, and then I listen to it with like
a group of people, and I'll see those are my
three ways I listen.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Or I'll listen to the studio.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
But I always have to have like a mindset of
when I'm listening to it, because I feel like you
hear songs the same way you watch movies. If you're
if I'm watching the Beetlejuice and there's like a bunch
of people talking, or or it's not even close to
Halloween for some reason, it just feels a little different.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
It feels a little different.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, no, I get that, And for most people, Beatlejuice
is a Halloween movie. I love that movie so much.
I don't even associate it as a Halloween movie, Like,
that's just a movie to me, Like I watch it
multiple times that the year. But if you want my
if you want to hear how I'm very unbiased when
it comes to movie reviews because even with the Joker
Too being discussed earlier Beatlejuice, Beetlejuice is cute and has

(20:20):
a lot of problems really so I loved how they
incorporated everybody back into the story, including actors that weren't
and shouldn't have been there with their history. The dad
is the dad is in the movie, but the actor
is not, and the way that they work around it

(20:43):
is fucking hysterical, to the point where when it first
happened in the movie. I was like, why are they
and then oh, but wait, oh yeah, and then I
was like, this is hysterical. He's not gonna be in it.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
There's a there's a scene in the in the first one,
and this is one of the there was a couple
things in there.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
I went, oh, that wouldn't fly today.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, right, there was a couple of things in the
first one that it wouldn't be able to do that.
There was a scene with the dad where he smacks
went on a rider on the butt and to tell
her to get out of the room.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
And I'm like, hmm. First off, I don't know that
that was supposed to be in the movie. Second, the
way that that was done was so weird and I
don't know why. And I told Ali and I'm like,
I don't know why, but that was weird, right, And
She's like, yeah, isn't that his daughter.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I'm like yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
But outside of that, like still weird, there was there
was something. Yeah, the way he did it, the way
it was done, everything about it, even if it was
written in the movie, was like.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Hmm, guy was a creep and we all saw it
before we all heard that. I was gonna say what's
creepier that being in the movie, or let's be honest
Lydia Deed's aka Rider is a child bride at the
end of that movie.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Oh, I forgot about that too.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, the musical has a really funny song about it.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
So what's her names?

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Creepy creepy old guy and it's about her being a
child bride in the movie.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
How does that play out in the in the in
the musical, Like how does the movie itself play.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Out in the musical?

Speaker 1 (22:16):
So it's very, very, very funny at the very beginning
of the musical. I love that musical, by the way,
if you've never seen it, it's very funny. It's definitely
like a book of Mormon comedy, Like it's it's more
making not lovingly kind of making fun of the movie
and the characters themselves. Okay, but very much like we
honor the original source material. But in the first song,

(22:38):
they change the parenthood dynamic than from the movie. I mean,
this isn't really gonna spoil it. It starts with Lydia
Detz's mom's funeral, and obviously Catherine O'Hara plays her mom
in the move, like Mom's not dead, Mom is very
much involved in the movie and in the musical. It
starts with Mom's funeral. So when the song ends, beatle

(22:59):
to just like up to the front of the stage.
He goes, what a crazy departure from the original source material.
So like they acknowledge that it's going to be a
little bit different, okay from the movie, so they take
some liberties and they change some things so it makes sense.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
But okay, I saw Ellie and and Schmidty just went
and saw it in its Broadway here.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
They just went saw it last night. I said it
was really good.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Did they call it Broadway and grown Rapids because they
call it Broadway and Toledo and Broadway in Detroit. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I love that program that's going on right now to
come to I don't know what shows your city is getting,
but I'm really pleased with the lineup this year.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
I'm not sure they would know better they go there,
you know, Like I said, I dabble, but apparently I've not.
My love for The Greatest Showman is apparently just the
just the tip of the iceberger.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
It's just the tip of the iceberg.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
It's very pleasant, it's very fine.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
It's just memory. But you know what, as a musical lover,
I think we get very frustrated when people shit on musicals.
So munch so to have anybody like any of them,
You're like, I'll take it. I mean, I'd like to
educate you.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
But fine, I mean educate me, like tell me ones
that I will watch.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
But like I, I am not like in love with
it like you are. I don't dislike it, but I could.
For me, it's a once in a while kind of
kind of movie. Like some people can't watch superhero movies
all the time, right for sure, but I could watch those.
I could literally quote everything from every movie and tell

(24:35):
you why what he's wearing in that moment with that,
you know, dumb stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Dude, I love movies. I love movies. I really can't
stand westerns. I totally get it. I'm more of a
fan of like modern day westerns, like like the True
Grit remake or The Hate Plate or whatever like those
I can get more on board with. I even like
Westworld and stuff. It's a little different, but like old
school western.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
You never watch Tombstone, the movie Tombstone.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
I have watched Tombstone.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Oh that's a great movie.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
I can't stand John Wayne movies. I really can't.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
It's not John Wayne.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
No, but I'm just saying in general, like I'm adding
on to the repertoire. I don't think Clint Eastwood movie.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
I never really got into those, if I'm being on,
those are a little little before me, and I never, like,
I never watched him, but like Tombstone with the dude
with a super deep voice and it's got a big
white muster and I forget his name right now?

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (25:28):
And are you talking about Ron Uh?

Speaker 3 (25:32):
He's he looks like a cowboy, like a real cowboy.
I forget his name. He's still alive, Yeah, no, but no,
but he kind of looks like him.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Oh are you talking about the diabetes.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Guy Sam Elliott? No, Parks and rec he is. Oh
I didn't know he was.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Okay, he's the mayor of Eagleton. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Sam Elliot's in it, Kurt Russell's in it, and Val
Kilmer and Val Kilmer does an incredible job in that movie. Okay,
it's a solid movie. That's a solid Western. But you're right,
there aren't a lot that are like that. I mean Yellowstone.
I like Yellowstone don't know if that's considered a Western,
but I.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Would consider it a Western's terrible.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
I love that show.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
The first ten minutes of that show. Go back and
rewatch and say it's good.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
I will absolutely car.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
What's going on around here? Not lease so dramatic.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
I love it. I love everything about it.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
So I don't know. There are definitely things that I
love and I look at with like admiration. But if
I had to get people into musicals, I feel very
proud that my brother was a giant musical hater, and
I've concocted the perfect formula to introduce him to musicals.
Announce us into it. You gotta start with Book of Mormon, Okay,
every man, If you're trying to get him to watch
a musical, start with Book a Mormon. Same guys who

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did South Park. And it's absolutely inappropriate, hysterical, and a
great place to start.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, that's yeah. So it's Matt Stone and Trey Parker yep.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
And they wrote it when they were in college. What
very good, very good, very inappropriate, and it's about obviously Mormons.
My favorite fun facts about the Book of Mormon is
that the Church of Latter day Saints aka the Mormons,
that's not what their religion is actually called. But Church
of Latter day Saints paid for an ad the entire

(27:26):
Broadway run in the bill the playbill to promote like,
now you've heard their story, you want to hear the truth.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Oh wow.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
And then it was their website, which I thought was
fucking hysterical. Uh huh. Well that and the South Park
guy's got more money from the church to them, so
they made money off of the Mormons on their whole thing.
And then I would say, like a great next step

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to a little bit more serious and heartwarming is Come
from Away, which is currently on Apple TV. Okay, so
it's about nine to eleven, which seems very awful, but
it's about people being good on nine to eleven and
it's a true story. Okay, So brief synopsis because this
will not ruin everything. When nine to eleven happened, they

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obviously landed all of the planes across the globe, and
there was a airport in Nova Scotia that used to
be the largest international airport in the world. Because planes
couldn't make it across the Atlantic in one go they
didn't have enough gas, so there was an airport to
stop form or gas. And when nine to eleven happened,
there were thirty or fifty airplanes that all landed in

(28:38):
this airport that essentially had closed. I mean, it wasn't
really used anymore. There was very few flights going in
and out, and all of the people were stranded for days,
and the city of a couple hundred people had to
open up and feed cloth and shelter a whole bunch
of strangers from across the globe, and not everybody spoke English.
And it's like a beautiful story of community.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
I love that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yeah, it's both ends of the spectrum too, Like it's
it's super like hilarious and funny and inappropriate.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
And also and there's like.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Ten people and that come from away and they all
play multiple characters throughout the show by changing like small
aspects of their costume. And it's really interestingly done.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
To check that out, To check both of those out.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Okay, maybe start me, slow, start, slow.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Me follow the slightly messy show. One I g at
slightly messy show. Shall we keep going? Or do you
have do you get a jet?

Speaker 3 (29:36):
No?

Speaker 1 (29:36):
I want to, I want to. I enjoy our time
to go there.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
I do too, I need too.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Okay, so I don't We talked about two separate topics here.
Why don't you introduce this next one because I don't
remember which one you chose.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Okay, Oh the hurricane?

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Oh yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Because I would stop singing the part of Hamilton.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
That's how we got to the musical.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
That's how we got Okay, that's how we got the
hurricane game.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
You've never seen Hamilton. Please go listen to that song specifically,
it's the only one Marolyn Man Wilmerando sings and it
is not good. But there is obviously so much hurricane
content on TikTok right now with people getting ready for Milton.
Is that what it's called?

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:23):
By the way, can we get somebody new in charge
of naming the hurricanes? I get that we're going back
and forth with genders alphabetically.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Sure, Milton.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Would you want, though, it to be like a regular name,
like if it was Hurricane Megan then and this destroys Tampa,
Like there's not many Miltons out there.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Let me tell you, I would be like Hurricane mecan
l She's coming for you, baby. The content I.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Could make she shut down Disney, she ripped apart Disney.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
I'm here to fuck your ship up, which is not
funny because people like genuinely are in harm's way. Like,
I'm not making fun of hurricanes. I just think the
jokes I could make about a hurricane being named Megan
would be fun.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
I just think they picked names so that, like, there
isn't a Stacey someday who's like, oh my mom died
from Hurricane Stacey and you're like, oh shit, sorry, like Milton, Katrina,
not many, not many people. I guess people forget after
a few years anyways, But there was a hurricane Michael
back in the days too.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Oh yeah, I forgot about a hurricane. But I also,
like I would do all of my exes that like
scorned me. Like if there's a j there's got to
be like a Josh in there, or a Jake. There's
definitely a logan hurricane logan, for sure.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
How funny would it be if it's just a bunch of.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Like eighty year old women and men who are are
scorn and it's like some Debor out there or probably
older name than Deborah, like a Gertrude out there who's
like motherfucking Milton Milton. Yeah, that's that's who there was, Milton.
Who the the worst hurricane in years is going to
be Milton.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
But that I would love for, like a Hurricane Connor.
Think we all know a Connor that was kind of weird.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Chad, Hurricane ch.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Chad would throw all of your shit in the yard.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
You know, Chad, or like a Kyle or like a Randy.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Oh my god, Hurricane Randy would be his circle.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
He starts bar fights and he also tears up your towns.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Somebody just commented this, and I just love that I'm
not the only person that thinks this way, because I
brought up Hurricane Katrina and immediately my mind is now
rotted from the Internet and I can't think of anything
without a vine reference, and in my head, I go,
Hurricane Katrina more like Hurricane Tortilla. And somebody literally just

(32:47):
commented that in the chat. I was like, I'm glad
it's not just my fucked up brain that goes there.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
What is your feed right now with all the hurricane stuff?

Speaker 5 (32:56):
So it's everybody packing, right, And I think people were
very scared or giving genuinely helpful information, right, like don't
forget to pack up your.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Kids, medicines, pets, pet food, like, don't forget that. Don't
forget all of your important house documents, so like your mortgages,
your insurance papers, your Social Security cards, birth certificates, like,
don't forget to bring all of those with you. Don't
forget to bring any like important documents, photographs. That's what's

(33:32):
important people in pets. Yeah, the later you get in this,
which is helpful and I think so important in those scenarios,
like don't forget to spread like, don't forget to grab
that stuff. Medicine is important. The longer people wait, the
more bullshit the videos become. And that's what I live
for because of somebody not needing to pack and needing
help make them.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Photo And it.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Started turning into don't forget to grab your ex's sweater
that's been in the closet for three years that you
won't get rid of, or I'm like all of the
shit you really shouldn't grab, like road snacks are super important.
You know that ramen that's been sitting in the pantry
for four years, You're gonna have no access to a
potted boiling water, make sure you grab that, like I

(34:19):
was dying at some of the stupid shit people would pack.
But is there something stupid that you have to pack
because you like, for me, I'm taking my heated blanket
with me. I know that I probably won't even have
access to a way to plug it in to use it,
but that shit is important to me and I'm not
losing it.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Oh yeah, because once you find a good one too,
and you've you've molded it to your to your liking,
and you know how to wrap it around you perfectly,
and you know where to plug it.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's the good of bluetooth.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
So I can control it from my phone, so while
I'm laying in bed, I can adjust the heat. Oh,
I'm serious about heated blankets.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
What is this this wizardry. I've never even heard it.
I don't know that was a thing.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
King sized covers the whole bed. You can control both
sides of the blanket with its own heat temperatures. Jesus,
it is my prized possession. Like, let me tell you.
For the first night where it drops down to like
fifty degrees at night and everybody's like, oh, it's so cold,
falls coming, I'm like, oh.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Shit, motherfucker. Turn off the heat, turn off.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
The asty, the electric blanket's coming out.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
I wouldn't know what to Honestly, I wouldn't know what
to grab. Everybody's like, grab your you know your mortgage.
Wouldn't think to grab my mortgage and grab your picture.
What if I grab pictures right, and I go to
grab like Milo's my five year old or Cecily my
ten year old. But like the newborn, you know, he's
not new, he's one. He he doesn't have a lot

(35:49):
of household like good household picture. What if I forget
to grab his, any of his at all, and we
get somewhere someday. Cecily and Milo have these boxes of
like their childhood. Sebastian is like, you're alive, Like you're here.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
As the youngest child, I can tell you it doesn't
matter if there was a disaster or not. His file
will be lacking. Because the more kids that come, the
less important those milestones are to you, guys, and so
they're not documented nearly as frequently. Your first food, your

(36:28):
first steps, your first rollovers. The time the third one
comes around, oh good you're eating, Thank god, you just
made my life easier. Is the parent mentality we ever talked.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
About, like he's got to get his first haircut here soon,
He's got to do all these We saved Cecily's hair
with Milo, I'm pretty sure we did the same thing.
But I'm pretty sure we also took pictures with Sebastian,
Like I mean, we might, we might, we try to,
we do try, but we started looking at everything. We

(37:00):
got baby photos done. We had a whole entire photo
session Milo. He definitely got like posts and like also
at the time, I was, you know, still I was,
you know, fairly new on Mojo, so there was a
lot of like like me calling from the hospital and
Max the singers sang to him and and then then

(37:22):
yeah and then Sebastian like like it was also on
the air too, But like, there's no photo shoot for Sebastian.
There's no there's no there's no artists singing to Sebastian.
There's pretty pretty cool Michael Jordan picture.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
I have no pictures from prom. I have no pictures
from my high school graduation. I have no pictures from
my college graduation. I have no pictures of milestone moments
in my life as the youngest child. Everybody, you know
what I'm gonna start a fight with all siblings right now,
right all siblings that aren't the baby. Listen up, your fuckers,

(38:02):
and I say that with all of my heart and soul.
Y fuckers complain that babies get away with everything.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
You know why they do?

Speaker 1 (38:11):
We do, We absolutely do because our parents have actually
given up on caring about how we're raised, because they
spend all of their energy on you. Yes, we get
to go to the mall when we're younger, and yes
they give us more money because they don't want us
around because they're sick of having children. At this point.

(38:31):
They spent their time and energy loving you and raising
you and and caring about who you turn into. And
by the time they rolled around, they said, I'm sick
of this shit. Get out of my hair. I want
my peace and quiet. It's been so long.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
No, no, no, no, this is this is how it works.
This is how it's played out.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
The oldest for the oldest, I'll speak for the oldest.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
You are.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
You are, You are a a test gerbil, you are
a hey.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
We'll see if this works. Uh.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
And you can either ride along with it and sometimes
it'll be good, sometimes it'll be bad. But then you're
expected to kind of make sure that everybody behind you,
uh younger than you, is also doing okay. But then
you'll be Then there'll be the pressure of like you're
the oldest, like you gotta show them how it's you
got it, you gotta do it, you gotta uh, and
then they'll be the therapy and the trauma and anxiety
because your parents didn't know what the fuck they were

(39:27):
doing the first time around. Then I feel bad, honestly,
I feel the worst for the middle chi.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
The middle child gets it rough because then they have
to go off of whatever the first child has uh
has fucked up right, So everything is way more strict,
way more protective, way more all those things, and then
you're one hundred percent right. They realize that that over
protectiveness doesn't need to be a fucking thing. So then
the youngest comes and it's like, eh, whenever, whenever you

(39:54):
can go, go do go do what you want to do,
Go do what you want to do. But I truly
feel bad for the middle because they forget, They get
forgotten sometimes they really do.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
You know what the oldest and the youngest can agree on,
we both don't have the worst. The middle but I
do think we never got like the cool like I
think even when it comes to the oldest child, parents
want to give their kids everything they didn't have, right,
you want to make their life better, and I that

(40:25):
is not sitting on you. I get that. So when
that kid comes and goes, I really want to sweat
your or these jeans or these shoes. You guys are like,
I want to get that for you. I remember what
it was like to not have that, So let me
get that for you. You you remember how that mattered.
And then when the other kids start rolling around and
you're like, what do you think of I'm made of

(40:46):
fucking money. Absolutely not hand me down. I'll give that
it's not that important. One day you learn I don't
care about your disappointment. Right now, phone's ringing and the
food on the snope is boiling, and I gotta go.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah the day this is yesterday, yesterday. We go to
get out of the car. Cecily, I just picked the
kids up from school.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Cecily gets out right, and I don't know if she
shut the door or how the door got closed.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
I go get Sebastian. We all walk inside.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
I'm asking him about their day I'm talking to him,
you know, Sebastian's dancing and talking or whatever. He's just
like a little ham right now. Cecily is telling me
about whatever it is she's telling me about.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Everybody goes Smilo.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Milo is stuck in the back of the car because
the child locks are on, and so he's sitting in
the garage just yelling at the top of his lungs
because he can't get anybody's And now, had he honked
the horn, he probably could have got her attention. But
we didn't even realize the dude was still in the
fucking car, and I went, oh my god, I'm so
suck Oh yeah, I've there's there's like I do.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
We work very well.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
We work so hard to try to make sure every
kid gets the equal amount of attention so that we
don't build this middle child syndrome with him, specifically him.
Cecily's has got the attention she needs, and I think
Sebastian's got the attention she needs. And Milo, he's he's
just like Luckily for us, he's a he's a he's

(42:15):
a black cat energy like he very much doesn't very
much black cat energy. My sisters or my sister my
daughter is a golden Retriever, like very much golden retriever.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah, like look could be like very much like her dad.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
And and Milo's very much like uh like Allie with
like her. Like he's sweet, he's a sweetheart, but it's
very much he loves you, yes.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Like cats can be so indifferent or wild towards other people,
but if they love you, they're gonna sit on your
lap and cuddle and snuggle and love and part and
just think you're the greatest and follow you around. And
he's so sweet and he's so loving, but he can
also be cuezy. Yes, that is absolutely bi yeh.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
So we're we're trying so hard to nurture like not
because there also are times where we're like, dude, you're
doing so great.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
We're so like all these positive.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Things will say to him, and he's just like he's like,
I don't want to talk right now. We're like, oh,
all right, okay, okay, well we'll talk to you a
little bit then. So it's like we don't want to
build a middle child mentality, but we I don't know
what the fuck else to do. I guess if you
lock him in a car and he gets pretty upset
about that one.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Those are health see communication skills.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Sure, if you say so, you.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Got to be proud of that dude.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
How old is he? He's five and he can say.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Not right now. I'm not in the mood. It's huge.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Yeah, if you I never looked at it that Honestly,
I don't. I don't fully understand it. So it's frustrating
to me. But you're probably right. You're probably this day.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
I have a problem with that. I have just started communicating.
I would love to hold this conversation in another time.
I cannot right now because I do usually just sit
quietly cry and then snap. So you know what, I
don't take this one as a win.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Uh, you might, You're probably not wrong. I see.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
I have a tough time because I am very much
like I have to communicate it or it just sits
inside of me. And it's Uh, my daughter's having this
thing at school where they're telling her, hey, you gotta stop.
They're calling it blurting. You gotta stop just blurting out
whatever pops in your head. And I'm like, yes, that's

(44:26):
I apologize for that. That is one hundred percent me there. Yeah,
I can't, I can't. I can't for some reason. It
Usually it's to contribute to whatever the conversation is, but
sometimes it's just words. It's just thoughts, unfiltered thoughts that
have now popped out of my mouth.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
And sometimes the.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Proper reaction is huh okay, So anyways, uh.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
I trually don't even understand how it's possible, Like I
I when people are like, you don't have to say
that out loud, I don't think that's true. I don't like,
I don't have that capability. That worked very hard. It's
not like I'm choosing like. It's not like I'm like
I shouldn't do that. It's not like that. It's just
it must be said.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
That you always want to Sometimes there are times where
I just want to come back, come back in, come
back into my mouth. I mean to say that, but yeah,
now I never looked at it that like that.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
With him. That's a good point.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
He does, because he'll do that, like if you ask
him how his day went, and you asked the dude
how his day went. Sometimes I'll just go I don't
want to talk about it right now, or I don't.
He'll turn it around and talk to you like he
wants to talk about it, but it's almost like a
decompressing thing for him. And I'm like, why isn't this dude?
Like what I thought, like this is this is super lame.
But I thought if my dad had asked me, like anytime, hey, dude,

(45:43):
how was your day?

Speaker 2 (45:44):
As at a certain age, he just stopped doing it.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
I think, I don't know if you just thought I
was a man at that point or whatever, and we
didn't we didn't talk about that kind.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
I don't know what the reason was, but I can't.
I can't give you a time when my dad was like, hey,
how was your day? I cannot tell you an exact time.
Probably did when I was a kid, but like, if
my dad had asked me how my day, I would
literally talk his fucking ear off. And he's like I
don't want to. And my daughter is a complete opposite,
Like I'm like, hey, says, you don't have to tell
me that you sneezed at two thirty three pm. And

(46:12):
it was a sneeze that sounded like what you imagine
a unicorn would sound like if a unicorn, like every
every detail, every every single detail of every and I
love that I eat that up.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
But I'm just I never looked at it like that's
such a great point.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Do you You don't have to answer to this. I
feel like this is so firstal Izor, how do you decompress?
What kind of a dec impressed are you?

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Um? I am a I don't know what kindness. I
don't know if there's certain kinds or whatever. But I
very much will drive or sit or sometimes I've started
working out and just sometimes it's listened to nothing. Sometimes
it's do nothing. But I don't, Uh, I have to

(46:55):
be away from everybody for a minute. I have to
be by my myself for a minute. But I can't
do it very long.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
I have to. I don't make phone calls.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
I sometimes do it even before work, Like I'll do
the complete opposite of like decompressing. I'm already like preparing
myself for whatever the day is coming, and I'll just
sit in silence for like a good half an hour.
It used to be the pickup line that was a
good place to do it. But the way that the
pickup line runs now, it's it's so different. So I'll

(47:28):
I'll work out and I'll just listen to music and
just not talk or do anything. But that's that's basically it.
And I get about thirty minutes. I get like thirty
minutes in the day to do it in most days.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
But why what do you do?

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Oh, I'm so opposite. I cannot quietly process and let
things go. I must tell someone what has happened in
a way that is almost like a purge, like a
violent purge, not a' at that person. But I just
like aggressively speak my problems and get all of my

(48:06):
emotion out. And I don't want like, I don't want solutions.
I don't need solutions. I know the solution. I just
need to tell you what's bothering me so that it's
not inside of me. And no matter what emotions or
anything happens during that conversation, as soon as I'm done
telling it to you, I'm fine. Oh really, Oh I

(48:28):
can have the worst day in the entire world. I
can call my dad. I'll call my dad and he's like, Hey,
there's your day going. I'm like, I need ten minutes.
Do you have ten minutes? And he'll be like, I
really don't like, Okay, call me back when you have
ten minutes, and he's like, we'll do that. Could be
an hour later, I'll be fine. I'll be absolutely fine.
I will feel no emotions. I will be not no emotion,

(48:48):
but like, I won't be upset about it. I want anything.
And then as soon as he picks up the phone,
he's like, I got a spirit. Ten minutes everything will
come out and I'm mad at so and so, and
I can't believe this and nobody this and why does
this always happen to me? And then he'll be like,
what else happened? Nothing, I'm good, And then I'm totally good.

(49:09):
I like, it's fine, I'll move on, but I have
to get it out.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Yes, So my wife and some people I know pretty
closely do this too. I have the issue of, and
I'm learning to get better about this, is I want
to give a solution or fix whatever the problem is,
and you can't do that.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
You can't do that. I need. So what my wife does,
and I need.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
To do this with other others as well, is tell
me if you want a solution, or tell me if
you just want me to listen, Like, tell me that
in advance. Otherwise I'm trying to fit like not fix it,
but like trying to help you with a solution. To
relieve whatever stress. And some people, a lot of people
out I guess, don't want that. They do not want
a solution. They just want you to listen to what

(49:56):
they're saying.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
And that's it.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Because I know the solution. I know what the solution is.
I don't need you to tell me. I know it,
but I'm still upset about it right now, and I
just need somebody to tell me I'm valid and being
upset about it like that it's okay then I'm this
sad or this angry or this frustrated or whatever it is. Yeah,
And I love the men of my life. I love

(50:19):
them so incredibly much. They have just started getting where
I will go on these these tirades about my day
on a bad day, and they'll they'll this is this
happened recently with my dad. He started giving me solutions
and then all of a sudden, he goes, man, I'm
giving you solutions and I know you don't want to
hear them. I'm sorry. That is so fucked up that

(50:41):
that happened today. And I was like, this is the moment,
thank you? And he was like, what an asshole?

Speaker 2 (50:53):
And I was like, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
I don't know if it's in guys nature just to
do that, Like, I don't think it's I don't think
it's it comes from a place of like we think
you can't fix it, right, we think you don't have
a solution.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
I don't know where it comes. I can't tell you.
Because it's helpful.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
That's how you help, that's how you make it better.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Probably, probably it comes from a good place. I know that.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
I also know the feelings sometimes of wanting to just vent,
wanting to just get it out. But guys don't do
that that often. I don't feel like like there are
times where we'll just I'll sit in a car and
just because I don't want to walk inside with it,
and whether I'm pissed or angry or upset about something,
I have to just sit there and let it all
come out of me because I can't walk in the

(51:38):
house and bring that energy inside because it'll just go, it'll,
it'll I don't know. I've never like, I'm pretty good
about that kind of stuff. I'm pretty good about that.
But there are times where my wife will have to
be like, hey, what's going on, Like I I can't
I can't control whatever it is, and I'm just not
great in that moment, uh with expressing what's what's going on,

(52:04):
what's wrong, I'm not great at that because I feel
like that's a sign of weakness, like I need to
I need to, uh, I need to be able to
fix it and solve it myself, like nobody wants.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Oh that makes me so sad. And I know it's
not a youth thing, and it's a it's a guy thing.
I think so totally get that. But every time we
talk about like toxic masculinity and people are like krazy feminists,
this is also what I mean. It's it frustrates me
on behalf of men that you don't have the accessibility

(52:33):
to express your emotions in a way that is never
then used against you in a negative manner. And that
breaks my heart for you, because it's not normal to
not feel emotions, especially with the people you love and trust.
I'm not saying you wouldn't share with Allie. I know,
out of anybody in the world, that's the person you're
absolutely sharing with. You guys are best friends and confidants,

(52:57):
and I know you trust her more than anything. But
I think there are men out there who don't even
do that. With their wives because it isn't manly and
they're not supposed to do that.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
I'll say this, I don't. I don't not so I
share everything with her, right, but I don't bring the
energy that I have initially, So I don't say I'm
really upset about something, I'm so angry. I don't approach
her with that with that same anger that I have
about it.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Now.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
It might when I explain it to her, it might
escalate to that level where I feel angry about it right,
not towards her, but just like in general.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
That's the thing. But I've found if I if I react.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
To things or express things based on the emotion that
I'm feeling right in that moment, that I don't think straight,
I don't act straight.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
I don't like it's it's we call with our kids.
It's the big emotions. I don't.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
I don't handle that some big emotions. If I respond
in that moment with big emotions, I say or do
things that I don't necessarily mean and that I regret later.
So I've gotten better about this, but it's taken years
and years of and having kids, honestly, of screwing that
up and then realizing that I screwed that up. So
that's the thing I'll share every There's nothing that my

(54:12):
wife doesn't know about me I don't think, or that
I haven't experienced in a day. There's just the way
I bring it to her isn't always like I'm so fun,
I'm so angry about this about because it and maybe
I should. I don't know, maybe it's healthy to come
at it like that. I just I feel like she
doesn't need that on top of whatever she's got going
on in her day, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (54:35):
And there's and maybe that's not right.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Maybe I should, maybe I should, Maybe I should talk
to somebody, maybe.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
I should sit down because it's not directed at her.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
But I also I don't think she would care if
I brought it to her in any sort of way.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
I just I know, for me personally, I feel grateful, yeah,
that I can be that person for somebody else. I
don't judge people for feeling that way. I feel honored
that somebody feels close enough to me that I can
be that way around.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Them, Okay you know what I mean? Yeah, Like I
wouldn't show.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
That version of me to anybody like I wouldn't I mean,
I think a great example is, like I've cried on
the show. Don't get me wrong, We've had these like
big emotional conversations. But if I'm truly like upset about
something at work, I don't come here and like sit
in a studio and cry, you know what I mean,
Like that's not me. I can get it, like, I'll

(55:29):
keep it together. But like if I call my dad
and cry and be like, dude, I'm just overwhelmed with
what's going on right now, and I'm just so I
don't know, you feel like you're just running in circles
or just taking step backwards or whatever it is, and
you just sit there and cry. And he's like, well,
what do you do when you're at work? And I'm like,
I keep my shit together. I call you because I

(55:51):
trust you to help me through this. Like I can
be like this around you can't be like this around
people at work, you.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what
I mean. And that's why. That's why.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
And I'm getting better about this when the emotion, when
a big emotion hits right, and it's not like sadness
where you know, you could cry on the show and
that's just something you did on the show, and then
you work through it and you're done. Usually when it's
like a like a upset about something or whatever the
emotion is, I have to take it out of out

(56:25):
of work because if I react at work with a
it's not like something that's super bad. But I know
for a fact that there are there have been times
before and in less than a handful, but still more
than once is too many in my opinion, where I've
reacted on emotions, right, I've reacted, you know, initially on emotions,
and that just it's not good.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
It's not healthy, you know, And I.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Wonder if you feel the same way, because you and
I are very similar in some ways. And it's very
funny because I think you come off and I don't
mean this in a negative way, and I really hope
you don't take it this, but I think we're both
very sensitive. But I think you do a great job
of like showing and communicating that, whereas I am an

(57:09):
extremely sensitive person, but I don't show it in a
way that is like I'm more like I like to
jab at the people that I like, and I definitely
put on more of like a tough fuck you exterior
but then on the inside, it's like, why doesn't this
stranger who I've never met before? I think I'm fucking great,
Like I think I'm pretty very wonderful. What's the po

(57:32):
then how do I fix it? Like that's how I
take everything on? Do you? Or we are also just
loud personalities in different ways. I think people would be
shocked to know that. Like around the building, especially in Toledo,
I was like the loud kind of shitster, not in
a bad way, but like if things were quiet or
things are too serious, like I tried to lighten the mood.

(57:53):
That was my role around there was to be. I
was the fucking personality higher like I'm shouting and laughing
and getting everybody together to have a good time about something.
Because I think we feel emotions so strongly and really
so quickly. It's more quickly than anything else. Sometimes I
feel like I've been hit by like a floodgate that's
not necessarily the strongest, but just how fast it comes

(58:16):
on from zero to one hundred.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
When I get upset, I don't obviously lash out at work,
but what I find interesting is I get very quiet
and reserved and because of that, people take that as
lashing out or being responsive. Yeah, and it's used as
a negative against me. And it's so interesting that there
are people in the office who can be quiet and
reserved all the time and that's finding that's normal and

(58:40):
that standy. But as soon as I get quiet and
reserved because I'm upset about something, but I'm not causing problems,
I'm not. Yeah, causing problems is just the best way
to put that. I'm just saying to myself and I'm
working through it and it is what it is, and
I'll handle that is all also now a problem.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Yeah, I don't. I don't even I know what you mean.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
I don't under I don't understand how that works either,
because it's like you, it's like they've they've put you
in this bubble of like you have to have this
personality all the time, and if you're not that personality,
then there's there's something wrong. And if you're not that
personality then then because I've I've done that before too, honestly,
where I've just stopped because I know if I say anything,

(59:28):
it's gonna come from a place of like instant reaction
and instant like like it give me twenty.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Minutes and I'll work through it.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
And I'll obviously, but if if you if I'm upset
in that moment or you know, something has happened in
that moment, Yes, I need a I need a moment,
I need I need a second. I'm saying same in that,
But I uh, And maybe it's maybe it's the job
we do. I don't know, maybe it's this because if
it was if we worked in a in a factory,
nobody's gonna say anything, you know, unless you were bothering somebody, right,

(59:56):
But in this it's like you have to be not on,
but you have to be like what you are on
a daily basis. Every day there's no there's no off days.
And if there's an off day, like somebody will say something.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
And it doesn't have to even be work related, But like,
why is it always kind of on certain people's shoulders
to no matter how they're treated or what they're going through.
You've got to make everybody else's day more pleasant. And
if you don't, then your problem now too.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
I genuinely don't know. I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
I can't couldn't tell you that I understand exactly what
you're saying one hundred percent give what you're saying there.
I've had times where I've gotten phone calls, you know,
later in the day they're like, hey, I notice you
were quiet today. What's what's going on? And I had
to explain, like, hey, just you an off day. Well,
I can't can't do that on the air. Can't do that. Yeah,

(01:00:53):
And that's.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
In this building, and it's it's it's everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
It's they're they're, they're and so you you almost have
to build up a wall to be like, all right,
I guess when that microphone turns on, when the radio,
when radio starts, you know what I mean, you have
to shut it off.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
And it's I don't know how to explain how you
do it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
I don't know how to explain how you don't feel
and how you how you just turn the smile on
and I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Know, it's funny because you're bright and I've definitely done
it on the air before, but I was thinking even
off of the air.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
I've done it on the air before a couple of times.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
I mean not all the time, but it's it's it's
basically just emotion, you know, was it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
That mic or did you just take another nap, and
you say it was that one fucking time I take
a nap, one goddamn time. You don't know I overslept recently.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Stuft recently. And literally it's funny because you were there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
The last time I overspot the police were there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
The police were also there. That's that's true. If you
missed the story, I overslip slept so bad for work
one day, they genuinely thought I was dead in my
apartment and knee cops broke into my place to see
if I was still alive or not, because my boss
lived in the same building knew where I lived and
was pounding on my door and was like, she's not
responding lips and my dad was like she's not responding,

(01:02:13):
and everybody was like, what the fuck is going on?
But I overset for the first time in and that
was before Smith was born, so seven eight years. It
was like or just around when Smith was born, and
everybody was like, oh, I can't believe you overspoket, and
I was like, it's been that long and I really
fucked up. And then the whole day it was like,

(01:02:33):
don't sit silently, standish.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Because you're like.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Freaking out and you're scared and you're like I can't
believe I did this, and you're like keep the conversation going.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
There is no and there's that feeling of waking up
late too, is such a terrible feeling because you don't
know where you are. You're totally thrown off, and then
now you have to run in and like jump in
the car and drive over and you're like, oh my god,
I feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
An a hole.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
I've never lived so far from marine. I used to
be like, oh, so we have a meeting. Every morning
they called me for the meeting. So I woke up
to Lydia's phone call and I was like fuck, like
she's calling me. It's not good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
It's not good, not good, like I know. I'm like
she's so sweet. It's that such a soft voice, like
you know what she calls?

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Are you okay?

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
And I was like fuck and she was like, we'll
see you when we see you, don't rush, and I
was like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
That's so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
But I've never lived so far away either, so like
before it was like I'll get there before the show
starts because we have a meeting. So you called me
because I missed the meeting. I'll still be there in
like twenty minutes. Well we're got none of the audiences.
I didn't get there until like six forty. I was like, well, hi, breakfast,
I'd be late.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
There was a period when I first started on Mojo,
and this was maybe right before you started, or right
about the time that you started to where I fell
asleep more than once, not only at the on the board,
but like at home. I overslept. They were remote. I'm
surprised I didn't get fired. If I'm being honest with.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
You, I was never there, but I did hear.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Oh it was bad. It was. It was.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
If there was ever a menty Be moment in my life,
like a real life one, that was it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
That was. I don't know if it was the transition.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
I don't know. If it was a lot of uncertainty, uh,
not necessarily by anybody specifically, but like the feeling of uncertainty,
the feeling of not know a million different things in
one moment, right, a lot of things in my personal
life happening all at the same time. If there was
ever a menty Be moment that was, Oh, that was it.

(01:04:40):
I apologized to people that didn't even know that they
needed to be apologized to. I overslept, I didn't show
like I would have a remote in the middle of
the day and I would sleep through it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
I would you had a lot going on. I mean,
it doesn't there's no exit. I worked through it, yes,
but I worked through it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
And thankfully the people that, like the Tony's and the
Mojos and others, Stick and some others really probably put
stuck their neck on the line for me, because I
I'm surprised I had a job after that. Like, there
was just moments where I'm like, I'm gonna get fired.
There's no way that I said it on the drive in.

(01:05:18):
There's no way they're two different shoes on. There's no
way they're not going to fire me. There's no way
I showed up to work two different shoes on one day.
I was so sick. I was like and whatever it
might have been, I don't know if I was actually
sick or if it was anxiety and was throwing up
in the studio like just a mess, an absolute mess.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Seventy eight years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
That's also normal, very normal for people who are new.
Maybe when I was new to the morning radio all
the time. It's a shit schedule. It really. I love
our job. I love our job so much it's not
even funny. Yeah, it is a shit schedule. It is
very hard tough. I actually think thirds would be easier

(01:05:59):
because we're like split in between thirds and first. It's
like getting up at three o'clock in the morning every
day is incredibly difficult.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
I I yes, I agree. I do love.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
I have a love for it now in the morning,
not for getting up that early, because it's a shit
time to get up, Like it's in between everything, like
you just said, but like waking up on the weekend
and everybody's awake and I have to like work around
people to get ready. It like at a normal like
a normal day would be like, but getting up at

(01:06:31):
four or three or three thirty four o'clock, I hate you.
There's nobody away, motherfucker. There's nobody awake at four o'clock
in the morning. There's nobody awake. There's nobody on the road.
I don't have to sneak around to get ready. Commute
is real, it's the greatest. What's the last time you
drove at four o'clock in the afternoon, five o'clock in

(01:06:53):
the afternoon every day on my way home, you stay
till five o'clock. Sometimes it's a different conversation. That's a
whole other conversation. What I was gonna say is, I
remember the last time I drove home at five o'clock.
If I didn't have an event or something and the
traffic is a nightmare.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
I could not do that every day.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
I could not do It's great for radio, like thank
you because you probably have us on, but I could
not ride home at five o'clock in five o'clock traffic
every day.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
The current road rage that I have in not rush
hour traffic. I don't know how y'all do it, because like, literally,
if three people are on the road, I'm mad.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Yeah, so mad. What is your commute time?

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Like, how long does it take you from Okay, so,
from my apartment to my car to out of the
garage because I have to park on the sixth floor
apartment to like essentially the gate of my garage is
about ten minutes and then it's forty minutes from my
apartment or my parking garage to the building.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
I guess that's not bad. It's not bad for being
in downtown. Yeah, And then.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Remember when I lived in Toledo, I lived two blocks
away in my apartment, and my house was six minutes away.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Yeah, now, I mean, you're gonna have that here soon,
like whenever you guys move into that building, you guys
have that again.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
But like I don't. I haven't. I haven't lived on
this side.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Of the state more than eighteen minutes away from here
ever ever, And that's I've been in many different places,
and I think the farthest I could go away from
here is a half an hour.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Like you did, hit Water, it starts to get kind
of far.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Yeah, a little bit, A little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
At this point, How about this if I moved back
to Toledo, if when we moved studios to downtown Detroit,
the commute would be the same as what it currently
is for me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Right now, do you kind of win you kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
All the cost of living? Do I kind of wish
that I lived in fucking Toledo and all of my
bills would be half of what they are now? Abs
A fuckutely? Are you kidding?

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
My car?

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
I'm still mad about this. My car insurance went from
ninety seven dollars a month to three hundred and fifty
dollars a month. Do I think about moving back to Toledo
every goddamn day, every day, every day.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Why the fuck did it go up somewhere?

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Because Michigan car insurance is fucking insane. Everybody here is
sick of me talking about it. I don't understand why
the entire state has tolerated this and we have it rioted.
This is fucking insane.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
I just had to pull a thing because they tried
raising mind where I used our insurance from our company
instead of getting pip insurance or whatever that's called. I
took that off and use our company's insurance. It saved
me like a not a lot, but it saved me
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
I don't know why we haven't set the state on fire.
Why is this acceptable? This is not normal Michigan. It's
not normal. Why are you tolerating this?

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
We're gonna end with that. It's a slightly missy show up. Pathetic,
absolutely pathetic. Love the show. You guys are doing a
great job with Mike and Megan. Yeah, I we'll edit
with that.