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Speaker 1 (00:05):
I'm a joy.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
No good.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Does Zach have his own microphone?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yeah? So do this mic sucks? Oh my god, there
she go.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
That's uh, that's the mic that Megan normally sits at.
She's uh not with us today, Zach. She had to
go to an appointment.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
But we can do this next week.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
No, you cannot, I am I'm getting nervous.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Such a good job.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Seriously, anyway, what are we talking about Zach today?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
As you all know, I love my job, and I'm
an audio file and I'm also a numbers guy if
you haven't heard about that. But I'm sick of talking
to Tony and Mojo about like our podcast numbers. So
I figured we could dive into it and you guys
can ask questions.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Okay, so you can tell like the most listened to,
the least listen to?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
What, Like how many are downloaded?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Zach? What's the most listened to podcast that we've ever had?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Off the More Mojo or off our show?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Off the show podcast?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
One second?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
This is, oh shoot, most listened to podcast ever.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Ever in the last twelve months? Or ever?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Do we can you do both? Twelve? Do the last
twelve months? If that's what you got it's got to
be a war of the roses.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Right, War the Roses Part two, Part two.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Which is not the cheating situation.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
It usually is the caller situation.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, when we take callers in the.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Last twelve months, we got sixty three thousand plays.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Wow, which one which one of the roses was it?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I couldn't tell you it is? What's eight April seconds
of twenty twenty four? So this year.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
April twenty second at twenty twenty four. I cannot look
it up for second. We're taping this thing in the
same here. Let me, you know what, Let me do
this while we're doing or I can pull it up.
You know, I'm gonna sign into the system here and
I'm gonna pull up another log and I'm gonna find
this we got technically, you know, I just don't know
if people know this, but we are technically fucked. I'm
(02:18):
pulling it up right now, all right. Stand by by
the way, this isn't to the listeners. I don't know
how interested they get in numbers like this, but I
get interested in this because what it means to me
is that that particular War the Roses either got viral
through somebody that was maybe the person that got cheated
(02:38):
on or it got.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Viral through because it was so juicy.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah, sometimes sometimes what ends up happening is and I've
noticed this with War of the Roses, it's sometimes people
who are big fans of the War of the Roses
that have a decent social media following will share it,
and then it's people from other areas that don't even
know our sh sho that then start listening to us,
(03:02):
and You're like, holy shit, how are these people like
checking us out?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
See? I I love that people love our content, for real,
that's the goal. I have a beef with it, just
a little bit, just a little because the people who
do this, and I'm not trying to hate on them
because they're just doing their thing, but they do it
to steal our views, because they're trying to like repost
(03:28):
our content to their page secretly to get views, and
then they make money off our content.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I said I said that this morning KP on the radio,
and everybody kind of looked at me, like whatever, I
think what they're doing is. I think that they are.
It's like it you know what It's like, It's like
how you know, we get in trouble if we use
somebody else's pictures. Yeah, that's pretty much.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
It's a blatant copyright infringement and there's nothing we can
do about it because.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I see that and I see that perspective. But what
if some of their followers are then like, wait, I
want to see more of this stall and then come
to us.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
That's not how so TikTok. The algorithm is fed to you.
So if they are reposting our content, there's no reason
for somebody to follow us anymore.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
They want to see more if.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
They see their content first of them copying ours, they
don't know there's an original creator, So they're just going
to stay on that page and they're going to follow
that page and that content.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
So are these people doing it every like twice a week,
so there's.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
A ton of people every time. It just random like
body accounts will steal our videos and repost, and then
creators will take our video and then post themselves side
by side reacting to it. It's like, we don't really
need your reaction to a video that already has reactions. Okay, yeah, sure,
if they're cute, I guess, but.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Like, no, no, I.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
I just I just get beef when people take other
people's stuff, like make your own content.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I want bat guys listening to War the Roses, I
already okay, wait, what's the date again? April second, April second?
Let's go. You know what that War the Roses was?
Are you ready? Can anybody guess?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Visit a three way call?
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Do those typically do better?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah? Yeah, do so much better. I don't know what
they like? The conflict?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, January, February, March April's four, right, the fourth month
of the year. April second of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Fuck, so four to two, not twenty second, just two.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Four to two? Can I be honest with you guys?
And this is no joke. We have got to have
the slowest other computers.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Yes, we do.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
It gives me hours. I want to do a podcast
if we can. Can we do a podcast of us
rolling tape of Shannon when she gets in in the
morning and uh Lydia and myself trying to figure out
a fucking computer.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Oh my god, it's so I like slam things. I
it's so bad.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I think the good thing about my computer is I
bought it because these computers are way too slow.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
There's no way.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Also, I like Mac.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Microsoft doesn't work the bus.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
See what We're not allowed to have those for the
for ours? Oh yeah for the system for the system we.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Can Which is so funny because I called sorry, I'm
not going to crap on the company way. I called
I Heart support because I was using my Mac for
stuff and they're like, oh, we don't. We only service
Mac to the New York office. I'm like, oh, so
we do service Mac, we just don't do it here. Uh.
They are head of digital, so I get that they
(06:37):
have a larger stack.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
In we're going to call out for als tent all, right,
here we go, Here we go. The second said, yeah,
the second, I finally got it. I finally on the
second delay is crazy. It's craziness, or are the roses?
It is counseling his coworker, the guy that was counseling
the therapist, the guy that yeah, it was a three
way call, you're right? Why is that the three way
(07:00):
calls no better than the non three way calls?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah? People just really love the confrontation, which I don't
like at all.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
But that's interesting that the calls, So it's interesting. So
I had a radio consultant that told me that they
don't think that people care for the the you know,
I would just call it analysis of the War the Roses,
like you know, the you know, how you watch a
game and the game's going on. He gave me the
(07:28):
example of people want to watch the game, they don't
care about the post game show, and I said, that's bullshit,
because you watch the NBA on TNT more. People like
love when they hear Charles Barkley, you know, and Kenny
Smith and those guys arguing with each other. That's kind
of what we do for the part twos of these
War A the Roses.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
But when we when we hear your comments, like you
let people call in and sare their comments or their
theories or like today, the War the Roses had so
many different like theories, what the noise was in the background.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I think that's fun because we all after a while,
we all kind of start thinking the same because we
are in the radio mind right, So it's nice to
have the callers and get their perspective of it.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Zach, what question for you on the podcasting thing. What
has been the biggest complaint that you've ever gotten about
the podcast? Oh Man, either from sales listeners.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Or whoever listeners, Lydia, do you have one off the
top of your head.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Well, our text line is always filled with why don't
you upload?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
It's Throwback Throwdown all the time, Zach, Zach's not doing
his job. Zach needs to uh to learn how to
upload the podcast faster because Throwback Throwdown is not on
but unfortunately we can't do it because of copyrights. But
I don't know, I think that, and uh, not uploading
the full show but which is three hours long?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Uh in uh why okay, cause it has to be
and listen if we if we complain about not being
able to play the music. It's like kp good point
that she made about people making money off of us
and uh and doing our bets. We're you know, we
got to pay these artists, I guess.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
So, yeah, we can't even make money off our content
right now, which makes me more frustrated. We're in the
process of trying to figure out a way for the
company to like there's a bunch of financial details behind
the scenes, and it I guess it just kind of
boils my blood to see how much work we put
into creating such amazing content and then having somebody else
just take it and then we can't even like report
(09:22):
it to TikTok. They don't like accept our appeals. So
like that's what like kind of.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Grinds my ears? Not like grinds your gears.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I feel like I'm on an episode of of a
Duke's of Hazard or that show Alice with Flow when
she used to say, kiss my grits, you love its,
kiss my grits. Not every episode is a good episode.
Which episode or which podcast is the least listen to podcasts?
(09:52):
Which one? Did we suck balls? By the way, no,
no balls to me, would be the ugly thing in
the world to suck. I don't get to sucking. I
never ugly. Balls are balls are ugly. If you're a man,
you should take your balls off, get rid of your balls.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Okay. Do you want like the least popular war the
roses in the last year or just.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
The topic least popular? Like or not? When I say
the least popular the because it could also be like
nobody happened holidays.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah it might be, Okay, so it is war the
Roses from three twenty eight twenty.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Four three twenty eight twenty four. Let's see which one
that is, and let's make sure.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
That that's actually part two. That's our least.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Three twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So I'm guessing it's not a three way call, and
I'm guessing that that is.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
So that is one that you that you did not title. Yeah,
it did not title. So it's just okay, there's a
two parter on that one. It's interesting that you say that.
You know what's interesting is the the second part of
it was like more than thirteen minutes long, so that
means that it was We talked for a while about it.
Usually War the Roses is an interesting one. I told
(11:07):
you this act, didn't I The War of the Roses.
Ratings on the air are higher on Tuesdays than they
are on Thursdays. But podcast listenership are higher from the
Thursday War of the Roses than they are from the yeah, Tuesdays,
And you know what I attribute that to?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I think it's because people tend to work on Tuesdays
and they're listening in their cars and they're working at
the work, so they're going there. Thursdays, a lot of
people work from home. Yeah, so I think that we
get more that makes sense, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, yeah, do you want to I want to show
you this. Okay, I'll tell you this on our Thursdays. Oh,
hold on, hold on on our Thursdays. In the last month,
one of our Thursdays got like seventy thousand one day,
which is one day. Yeah, what are those real?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Lowbar?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Sorry, I'm looking over the ex shoulder like a creep
and there's like bar grafts and yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
So this is Saturday and this is Sunday.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Oh so nobody's really downloading a.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Lot of I mean, they are eleven thousand on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Okay, but compared to seventy eighty thousand on these other ones, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Which is kind of cool.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
So the seventy thousand one is that the whole show
or is that the entire.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Is that that's combining them all throughout the day. So okay,
it could be like, you know, The Dirty four was
listened to forty eight times, Yeah, but War the Roses
was listened to six thousand.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
On the Dirty No, nor can.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I ask you on the things that we do. Do
people listen to the you know, dirties and the five, six,
fifty fives and second date updates. I know that War
the Roses is obviously a lot bigger, because that's our
biggest thing that we do. But those other features that
people will get just as into.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, people of five, I think because people want to play,
But that is our second and then the dirty In
the last month, our five a six fifty five. Yeah,
getting like six a day.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Questions question about the more Mojo podcast, because I know
that we have you know, different, you know versions of it.
We have this one here, which is the whole show,
and then we have the We Don't and we have
Mike and Meghan's podcast, which is the slightly messy podcast.
Out of those ones, which ones have gotten some of
the better listens and which topics have been.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Of all time in the last month, within.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
The last even year or so? Yeah, which ones? Which
ones have people gone, Oh, I kind of like that
one or whatever. Mike and Meghan's podcast, by the way,
is it does really huge? It's yeah, it does great.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
So Actually Megan is featured on this one. But our
number one download of the year is the We Don't
podcast where Meghan opens up to you and Chelsea.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
That was with Meghan and Lydia. Right Lydia, you were
on that one too.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Yeah, we were breaking an entering wrapping, like we were
doing all the gift wrapping and stuff, and then we
ended up recording we.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Don't We talked about that was where the first time
that Lydia kind of opened up a little bit about
her mom too on that and her relationship with her mom,
and then Megan talked about her mom and that too,
which I like doing the after show podcast, but like
Zach had has an idea for a podcast that he
wants to do, and I'm like, do that on the air,
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like bring it to the air, because I like, I
want the listeners to be able to participate in them.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
So, wait, what's your idea for a podcast?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Missed Opportunities with uh? What sucks? Did you know?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
And this is a tease. You know he's got a
side hustle and his other job that he's doing. He's
been getting fucked by girls.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
No wait wait wait wait wait, okay, no, no, no,
I don't miss He's like my little brother.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
No connections like they used have on Craigslist where you'd say,
I saw.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
You opportunities, this opportunity, so like, uh, let's say I
could have this big titty bitch, but I.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
So then you'd come on and hope that she would
hear it, so you.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Could, you could.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
That wasn't my team.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Okay, I don't understand. I'm more interested in this than
the podcast. Maybe he just said you can't just breeze
past that.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Basically, I had a job in New York where I
was a dog walker and my new okay, that was
one of my.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Jobs's part of the skill.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
I see this, and I see.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
I started a new job recently where I'm a dog
walker again, and it reminds me of this one lady
that I used to dog walk for in New York.
And that's the story I was going to bring up.
And I don't know if you want to even is that?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Is that a euphemism for sex?
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Can do this tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I wish. So that's that's the missed opportunity.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I wish tomorrow. All Right, we got to put this
in the podcast or for the kids are in the card? Yes, God,
I love I love Zach.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I did not think of you that way.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Okay, So so here here's something saying it.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, I like seeing the reaction.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Here's something interesting, you guys. You know, our show UH
has some really loyal people that listen to it, and
they're not just in Grand Rapids, Toledo, and uh Detroit.
But one of the things that I've noticed since Zach
joined the show and since KP started doing the great
job with the TikTok wore the roses, the ratings have
(16:52):
been fantastic. Okay, We've had great you know, listenership on
our rating stuff. I've had conversations with other shows that
have gotten more viral having listened to our show and
seeing what we're doing where we're podcasting during the show.
(17:13):
Isn't it archaic to think how we did it before,
where we did our entire show and we waited till
the end of the show to put a podcast up, like.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
And it wouldn't go up until like two or three o'clock.
You know, there is so much missed opportunity.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
You know what it reminds me of. It reminds me
of how remember TV shows and they still do this.
They'll air like Law and Order SVU on Thursday nights
and it won't appear on Apple or on your Comcast
whatever it is, you know, pay per view. It won't
(17:46):
appear on there for like months, And I'm like, why
would you not put it on there for right away?
So that people can watch it if it just aired.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
You know, I don't get that.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
And there are some there are some radio shows. I
was having a conversation with a radio show in Phoenix,
and thank god they don't work for our company, because
they they were kind of idiots, but they were for
another company, and they were saying to me, they're like, yeah,
you know, we've got like a you know, a show
of like four people, and we don't podcast or we
don't put our podcasts up there for like a week
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and a half because we're afraid that people because they
said and they didn't understand how dumb that sounds.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Wait, why why don't they Because.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
They they said that they didn't want to put it
up there because they didn't want other radio shows to
hear their topics because they figure out other radio shows
will steal from who cares.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
You need to be confident, you know, in your own content.
To just do it like that is just ridiculous, and.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
You got to like, you got to put it out.
If you're double thinking about it, then it's the moment's
already passed.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But also, it's not like your listeners are going to
be listening to a morning show in like Portland, Maine.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
We steals your crap.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
The funny thing is that I remember the day when
we used to as radio shows, go listen at seven
twenty tomorrow morning. Remember that while we would do the
teas seven thirty tomorrow morning, we're going to tell you
the big announcement that we're going to make. Now it's
almost like, here's the fucking big announcement. Yeah, and let
everybody just know what it is.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
My favorite thing like reminiscing for just a second that
you used to do, and I was not used to
it when I first came on this radio show. But
we cut loo They're called sweepers after the show every day.
So like Mojo is saying, we promote you know what
tickets were giving away for tomorrow or whatever. What you know,
big contest we have, and we used to do a
ton of interviews with celebrities.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
This is great.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
We would we'd stand here in Mojo and be like, Okay,
we're gonna tape for tomorrow, Okay, okay, and he'd be like, okay.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Coming up.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
On Wednesdays, Mojo in the morning, we're talking to Justin
Bieber and uh and Selena Gomez and Kim Kardashian at
listen at.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Eight o'clock and we'd get done taping.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
And I'd be like, holy shit, we have Bieber and
Selena and and you know whatever I just said, and
he'd be like, no, fuck no, but we just want
people to listen.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
It was so runny. I was like, Wow, I can't wait.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
I'm going to prep tonight for b board. He's like, yeah, no,
he's not calling it.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
But the best was the best was when the guests
were so big. It'd be like, tomorrow morning at eight o'clock,
Oprah is going to be on the show, and I
would have salespeople walking up to us, going, fuck you guys,
have Oprah. But the greatest part was that people would
and this is actually something I stole from Man Cow
(20:31):
who was a morning guy in Chicago for years. He
would do that and I would listen to hear his interview,
and I noticed he never had the people on for
the interview, and I realized, I don't think listeners give
a shit about the interviews. But it sounds good, like
you sound like the show that everybody is right right,
Because you know how the late night talk shows always
like will put like big celebrities on there, and I'm like,
(20:51):
we're just a dumb radio show. That the funniest ones
when we would have the celebrities Shannon, people.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Were like, yeah, I don't believe.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Well, you wouldn't even believe of us.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
He would be like, oh, I wouldn't prep and I'd
be like, damn it, Barack Obama.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, no, it really was Obama, and I was like,
oh my god, I thought he was joking. All right, Zach,
what else we're taking over your podcast? What else is
going on besides you dog walking girls?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I don't even know?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
What do you guys pick question for Zach real quick
on this? And Kevin, you know Zach about as well
as anybody, right, you guys hang out with each other
and stuff. What do you think Zach is? Is he
a top or a bottom? Which one is he?
Speaker 5 (21:37):
What?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
What kind of what do you think?
Speaker 5 (21:40):
So?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, like when you picture him having sex, he's on top.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
I think that Zach is a little more intense than
we think.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
You think, so, oh, yeah, let's go.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
I think he's a very I think he's a very
generous lover. Oh and I think that he knows what
he's doing, what he from what he's told me because
back when our guys shown Stripe was here, we would
get very deep about each other's lives, and from what
Zach was telling us, I had a feeling that he's
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good in the bedroom.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Wow, Zach, it's interesting because I know you're great with podcasting.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
My hands.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
That's oh boy, that's pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
The The amazing thing is when I picture Zach, I
picture that he sits there and goes, Okay, hey, how
you doing? What's going on? Like he's really kind?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Do you think he screams let's go before it happens?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I don't know. It's if you were going to have
if you're gonna have a porn, would would your porn
be titled Let's Go?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I can't even look at you, right.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
I literally can't.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
This podcast.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
I don't know, Zach side business is gonna be busting
after this.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I actually watched that movie last night. That's the only
reason I have that.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah, oh my god, disappointed. Oh question for you because
this used to be something too that our bosses used
to hate when we talk sex on the show, and
then we would do certain topics that were you know,
very I would say risk and they would do very
(23:28):
well in both ratings, but then they would also do
great in our podcast. Can you see titles of things
or is it just dates? Look look through some of
the podcasts and read the titles out, and let's see
which ones are titled to be like very very good show,
the show just yeah, like like segments because I remember
one time our boss, Uh this is an old boss,
(23:51):
not Tony, but I remember him. He used to say,
you know, you should never title it. You know, uh,
what was the name of that movie? You said back
door or backdoor Horse, And you shouldn't do it that
way because people aren't gonna like, who wants to listen
to backdoor Horse? Well, it found that it's bullshit. When
you title it something that is you know what it is,
(24:13):
it makes people want to listen to it.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I feel like the more clickable it becomes.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, I will. What people don't know is I'm actually
bad at naming podcasts. So I will shout out to
Mojo and Shannon for helping me name them.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Here's a question, Yeah, if you can go back to
because I just saw this on that thing here three
twenty six, twenty twenty four See how the podcast keV
pulled what out of his throat? See how that that podcast.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I will also say, while I'm looking for this, a
lot of like personal topics like Shannon doesn't want to
walk down the aisle, or Kevin Cherrell get in a fight,
or keV is the best, greatest boyfriend ever? Like those
do really well. So, like I guess, doing well in
(25:04):
relationships people love hearing that okay, or.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Not doing well or not doing well.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
But that got six and eighty five Uh on the
day of on the day of, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Wow, okay compared to seventy thousand. Cav's got to pull
some better stuff out of his throat?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Well, that was just.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Okay, Okay, we should be keV pulled. keV pulled a
big giant you know, something out of his throat? Go ahead?
What are some of the other ones entitled?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
She? She was blown dry? Wait, she was blown That.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Was mine the lady at the gym.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
keV has food phobia. Okay, popular movies. You haven't seen
Megan's Girl Math. This is just in the last month.
By the way, uh, do you bring a gift to
an out of town wedding? We have some in studio
visits that people love. Oh, guys. You want to know
how well we did on our live Mojo podcast. Yeah, yeah,
(26:12):
I think we got like ten thousand views, really ten
thousand plays and just like the last few days.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Wow. Which is funny because I talked to Steve Gabara.
He wasn't there. He listened to the whole thing really,
and I said to him, I go, was it boring
to listen to? He said, no, it's extremely entertaining to
listen to.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
It's the very first top one. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
That's awesome, which was pretty wild because you would think
that if you weren't there. It was so visual because
of all the guests and stuff.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I think people love hearing that stuff though.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Yeah, and they also like to hear themselves back like
they like to. It's like watching a movie twice that.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
You loved, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
It's something I started doing, uh, and I need to
do it more often. I started doing a little bit
at the beginning and of the year was I would say, hey, Julie,
you know when you're at first time a long time people,
hey send this send this podcast to your friends so
that they can hear you on the air. Because it's
kind of like you remember when a TV station would
(27:10):
be out and you'd be the one in the back
waving or hey this. I would like send that video
all the time to people and go, look I was
on TV. Well radio has got more people listening to
it than people are watching TV, so that's kind of cool.
We should almost. I wish that we had like really
good marketing department and and and stuff like. I wish
(27:31):
we had that and we could put out there. Well,
I would love to have I would love to have
a T shirts made up of first time, long time,
and I would love to have T shirts that were
made up of Oh.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
You have no idea? What's coming?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Oh? Really?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Okay? What about journal cakes? Oh my god? Should you
should you have like the face on there? Or should
it be like I'm and my boyfriend whore cheated on
me on War the Roses, All the girls don't have
urinal cakes in theirs? Or yeah, what else, sach, I'm
(28:09):
taking over your finger?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
No, no, you're good. You want to know My least
favorite thing about the podcast, like hands down on Spotify
and Apple, It's will only play up to like a
year year and a half, Like it only has a
year maybe two years of.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Old podcasts They don't save everything.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
It does not because we upload so frequently that Yeah,
there's like a quota. So if you listen on that
and or if you save that link, make sure you
find it on the iHeartRadio app or spreaker dot com.
We have them all saved.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
But what is spreaker dot com.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
It is a third party app that iHeart owns. That's
how I upload the.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Podcast and you can actually have an account down there. Yeah,
Joe told me this. My son Joe from The Joe
Show said, he goes dad, he goes I listened to
a lot of radio shows and he has a lot
of friends that are in you know, radio, like we
all do. And he said, you know what is really amazing,
it's amazing to see how your full podcast of your
(29:11):
full show is three hours and some odd minutes, and
an other show that is considered to be like what
your show is, you know, a show on a top
forty radio station, there's like an hour and twenty something.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
We do talk a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
We talk a lot, and I wish people could see
that we don't even get through like twenty percent of
what we plan for our show. Yeah, because we're talking
so much and we we digress or we get a
great call, or we take the time to you know,
like a topic's really good and we stay on it.
For we That's probably one of the number one questions
(29:48):
excuse me, I always get is how do you guys
find so much to talk about for five hours?
Speaker 4 (29:52):
I'm like, you don't understand.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
We have extra when we're done, and we have extra
that will usually roll over to the next day or whatever.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Well, having this conversation with Joe, and I said, because
I think that those should their show should talk more.
They have great content. And I said to him, I go,
here's the problem, Like, we can't podcast the throwback throw
down because there's music. If you're a show and you're
playing six or eight songs an hour, that's six or
(30:20):
eight times what three minutes or so or three minutes
and thirty seconds each one, that's how much time you
don't get listeners to hear twenty four so all they're
hearing is the songs, and so you're not getting rated
for that period of time. Basically, when you're able to
listen to, you know, people get you give us ratings
by listening to these podcasts.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
Question for you, yes, do you feel like radio stage,
and not all are the same, right, maybe some of
them are doing it for different reasons, But do you
feel like they're cheating the listeners?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Because of cheating? Give me any not talk as long
is Yeah, if they're a good show, I feel like,
you know, no offense to you know, like KP does
our midday shift, but I'd rather hear you know. People
I don't necessarily think come to radio stations as much
for just the music. I think they come for the
(31:14):
entertainment of value of the people. And I think that
these music shows that just play a ton of music,
like I get during the day you have office listening
and stuff like that. But realistically, if you want to
listen to music, just go to the iHeart app and
just play the song yeah right yeah, or play a
playlist that's on there.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
I always say, like when I do my show, if
I'm not saying something interesting, relevant or new every single break,
like something that provides value to the listener, what's the
fucking point? Like why are you talking if it's not
worth listening to, Like you're not an announcer, you're not
a secretary, you're not the news, Like just share things
(31:52):
that people learn more from what you're saying or entertaining. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
I'm not a of throwaway breaks just because that's just
what's the point of what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yeah, yeah, just because it says you should have a
talk with.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
You like hearing your voice, Okay, then go like do
your own podcast.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Well and I but I also say this that there
are those people that definitely want to know the title
in our you know song, name of the song, because
a lot of times people don't necessarily know, so that
you may get some people that get pissed at you
for never saying that. But I do think that there's
race there.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Tony does have us like those are like the basics
of on your stuff, like you have to like talk
out or into songs. So but yeah, it's not all
the time that we do that.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
But I'm thinking of a morning show, like if if
you're a morning show and you're playing, you know, twelve
songs an hour, you know which, I know that there
are some shows in our radio market here that do that.
I'm thinking that you're wasting a lot of potential ratings
time by doing that, you know which, I don't even
know why I'm giving these guys they had advice talk more.
(32:57):
But but then I'll say that when I first started
doing this thing, even Channing, when we started together, you know,
I've been doing it for a little bit, I don't
think we were good enough to talk as much as
we talk now.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Yeah, we definitely played a lot more music.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah, So I mean I think they you know, sometimes
you know, as time goes on and you get to
know people, you get better content.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
You have to show them your skills first.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah, and then there's also some Mondays or Fridays where
I'm going, fuck, can we just play a bunch all right, Zach? Yeah,
what a great podcast? This is great. How will you
feel if this podcast has like great numbers or bad numbers? Well,
will you go back and look at it? Since you're
(33:39):
an analytical.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Guy, I probably will, to be honest with you, but
you know, sometimes you just gotta roll with it and
then we're on to the next thing. So I'm looking
forward to that topic tomorrow and looking forward to next Tuesday.
Whoever's hosting, I think that's keV No sorry bro' that
is KP.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
That
I'm a joy.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
No good.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Does Zach have his own microphone?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yeah? So do this mic sucks? Oh my god, there
she go.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
That's uh, that's the mic that Megan normally sits at.
She's uh not with us today, Zach. She had to
go to an appointment.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
But we can do this next week.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
No, you cannot, I am I'm getting nervous.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Such a good job.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Seriously, anyway, what are we talking about Zach today?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
As you all know, I love my job, and I'm
an audio file and I'm also a numbers guy if
you haven't heard about that. But I'm sick of talking
to Tony and Mojo about like our podcast numbers. So
I figured we could dive into it and you guys
can ask questions.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Okay, so you can tell like the most listened to,
the least listen to?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
What, Like how many are downloaded?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Zach? What's the most listened to podcast that we've ever had?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Off the More Mojo or off our show?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Off the show podcast?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
One second?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
This is, oh shoot, most listened to podcast ever.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Ever in the last twelve months? Or ever?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Do we can you do both? Twelve? Do the last
twelve months? If that's what you got it's got to
be a war of the roses.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Right, War the Roses Part two, Part two.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Which is not the cheating situation.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
It usually is the caller situation.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, when we take callers in the.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Last twelve months, we got sixty three thousand plays.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Wow, which one which one of the roses was it?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I couldn't tell you it is? What's eight April seconds
of twenty twenty four? So this year.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
April twenty second at twenty twenty four. I cannot look
it up for second. We're taping this thing in the
same here. Let me, you know what, Let me do
this while we're doing or I can pull it up.
You know, I'm gonna sign into the system here and
I'm gonna pull up another log and I'm gonna find
this we got technically, you know, I just don't know
if people know this, but we are technically fucked. I'm
(02:18):
pulling it up right now, all right. Stand by by
the way, this isn't to the listeners. I don't know
how interested they get in numbers like this, but I
get interested in this because what it means to me
is that that particular War the Roses either got viral
through somebody that was maybe the person that got cheated
(02:38):
on or it got.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Viral through because it was so juicy.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah, sometimes sometimes what ends up happening is and I've
noticed this with War of the Roses, it's sometimes people
who are big fans of the War of the Roses
that have a decent social media following will share it,
and then it's people from other areas that don't even
know our sh sho that then start listening to us,
(03:02):
and You're like, holy shit, how are these people like
checking us out?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
See? I I love that people love our content, for real,
that's the goal. I have a beef with it, just
a little bit, just a little because the people who
do this, and I'm not trying to hate on them
because they're just doing their thing, but they do it
to steal our views, because they're trying to like repost
(03:28):
our content to their page secretly to get views, and
then they make money off our content.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I said I said that this morning KP on the radio,
and everybody kind of looked at me, like whatever, I
think what they're doing is. I think that they are.
It's like it you know what It's like, It's like
how you know, we get in trouble if we use
somebody else's pictures. Yeah, that's pretty much.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
It's a blatant copyright infringement and there's nothing we can
do about it because.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I see that and I see that perspective. But what
if some of their followers are then like, wait, I
want to see more of this stall and then come
to us.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
That's not how so TikTok. The algorithm is fed to you.
So if they are reposting our content, there's no reason
for somebody to follow us anymore.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
They want to see more if.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
They see their content first of them copying ours, they
don't know there's an original creator, So they're just going
to stay on that page and they're going to follow
that page and that content.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
So are these people doing it every like twice a week,
so there's.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
A ton of people every time. It just random like
body accounts will steal our videos and repost, and then
creators will take our video and then post themselves side
by side reacting to it. It's like, we don't really
need your reaction to a video that already has reactions. Okay, yeah, sure,
if they're cute, I guess, but.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Like, no, no, I.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
I just I just get beef when people take other
people's stuff, like make your own content.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I want bat guys listening to War the Roses, I
already okay, wait, what's the date again? April second, April second?
Let's go. You know what that War the Roses was?
Are you ready? Can anybody guess?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Visit a three way call?
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Do those typically do better?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah? Yeah, do so much better. I don't know what
they like? The conflict?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, January, February, March April's four, right, the fourth month
of the year. April second of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Fuck, so four to two, not twenty second, just two.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Four to two? Can I be honest with you guys?
And this is no joke. We have got to have
the slowest other computers.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Yes, we do.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
It gives me hours. I want to do a podcast
if we can. Can we do a podcast of us
rolling tape of Shannon when she gets in in the
morning and uh Lydia and myself trying to figure out
a fucking computer.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Oh my god, it's so I like slam things. I
it's so bad.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I think the good thing about my computer is I
bought it because these computers are way too slow.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
There's no way.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Also, I like Mac.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Microsoft doesn't work the bus.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
See what We're not allowed to have those for the
for ours? Oh yeah for the system for the system we.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Can Which is so funny because I called sorry, I'm
not going to crap on the company way. I called
I Heart support because I was using my Mac for
stuff and they're like, oh, we don't. We only service
Mac to the New York office. I'm like, oh, so
we do service Mac, we just don't do it here. Uh.
They are head of digital, so I get that they
(06:37):
have a larger stack.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
In we're going to call out for als tent all, right,
here we go, Here we go. The second said, yeah,
the second, I finally got it. I finally on the
second delay is crazy. It's craziness, or are the roses?
It is counseling his coworker, the guy that was counseling
the therapist, the guy that yeah, it was a three
way call, you're right? Why is that the three way
(07:00):
calls no better than the non three way calls?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah? People just really love the confrontation, which I don't
like at all.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
But that's interesting that the calls, So it's interesting. So
I had a radio consultant that told me that they
don't think that people care for the the you know,
I would just call it analysis of the War the Roses,
like you know, the you know, how you watch a
game and the game's going on. He gave me the
(07:28):
example of people want to watch the game, they don't
care about the post game show, and I said, that's bullshit,
because you watch the NBA on TNT more. People like
love when they hear Charles Barkley, you know, and Kenny
Smith and those guys arguing with each other. That's kind
of what we do for the part twos of these
War A the Roses.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
But when we when we hear your comments, like you
let people call in and sare their comments or their
theories or like today, the War the Roses had so
many different like theories, what the noise was in the background.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I think that's fun because we all after a while,
we all kind of start thinking the same because we
are in the radio mind right, So it's nice to
have the callers and get their perspective of it.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Zach, what question for you on the podcasting thing. What
has been the biggest complaint that you've ever gotten about
the podcast? Oh Man, either from sales listeners.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Or whoever listeners, Lydia, do you have one off the
top of your head.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Well, our text line is always filled with why don't
you upload?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
It's Throwback Throwdown all the time, Zach, Zach's not doing
his job. Zach needs to uh to learn how to
upload the podcast faster because Throwback Throwdown is not on
but unfortunately we can't do it because of copyrights. But
I don't know, I think that, and uh, not uploading
the full show but which is three hours long?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Uh in uh why okay, cause it has to be
and listen if we if we complain about not being
able to play the music. It's like kp good point
that she made about people making money off of us
and uh and doing our bets. We're you know, we
got to pay these artists, I guess.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
So, yeah, we can't even make money off our content
right now, which makes me more frustrated. We're in the
process of trying to figure out a way for the
company to like there's a bunch of financial details behind
the scenes, and it I guess it just kind of
boils my blood to see how much work we put
into creating such amazing content and then having somebody else
just take it and then we can't even like report
(09:22):
it to TikTok. They don't like accept our appeals. So
like that's what like kind of.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Grinds my ears? Not like grinds your gears.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I feel like I'm on an episode of of a
Duke's of Hazard or that show Alice with Flow when
she used to say, kiss my grits, you love its,
kiss my grits. Not every episode is a good episode.
Which episode or which podcast is the least listen to podcasts?
(09:52):
Which one? Did we suck balls? By the way, no,
no balls to me, would be the ugly thing in
the world to suck. I don't get to sucking. I
never ugly. Balls are balls are ugly. If you're a man,
you should take your balls off, get rid of your balls.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Okay. Do you want like the least popular war the
roses in the last year or just.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
The topic least popular? Like or not? When I say
the least popular the because it could also be like
nobody happened holidays.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah it might be, Okay, so it is war the
Roses from three twenty eight twenty.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Four three twenty eight twenty four. Let's see which one
that is, and let's make sure.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
That that's actually part two. That's our least.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Three twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So I'm guessing it's not a three way call, and
I'm guessing that that is.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
So that is one that you that you did not title. Yeah,
it did not title. So it's just okay, there's a
two parter on that one. It's interesting that you say that.
You know what's interesting is the the second part of
it was like more than thirteen minutes long, so that
means that it was We talked for a while about it.
Usually War the Roses is an interesting one. I told
(11:07):
you this act, didn't I The War of the Roses.
Ratings on the air are higher on Tuesdays than they
are on Thursdays. But podcast listenership are higher from the
Thursday War of the Roses than they are from the yeah, Tuesdays,
And you know what I attribute that to?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I think it's because people tend to work on Tuesdays
and they're listening in their cars and they're working at
the work, so they're going there. Thursdays, a lot of
people work from home. Yeah, so I think that we
get more that makes sense, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, yeah, do you want to I want to show
you this. Okay, I'll tell you this on our Thursdays. Oh,
hold on, hold on on our Thursdays. In the last month,
one of our Thursdays got like seventy thousand one day,
which is one day. Yeah, what are those real?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Lowbar?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Sorry, I'm looking over the ex shoulder like a creep
and there's like bar grafts and yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
So this is Saturday and this is Sunday.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Oh so nobody's really downloading a.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Lot of I mean, they are eleven thousand on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Okay, but compared to seventy eighty thousand on these other ones, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Which is kind of cool.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
So the seventy thousand one is that the whole show
or is that the entire.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Is that that's combining them all throughout the day. So okay,
it could be like, you know, The Dirty four was
listened to forty eight times, Yeah, but War the Roses
was listened to six thousand.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
On the Dirty No, nor can.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I ask you on the things that we do. Do
people listen to the you know, dirties and the five, six,
fifty fives and second date updates. I know that War
the Roses is obviously a lot bigger, because that's our
biggest thing that we do. But those other features that
people will get just as into.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, people of five, I think because people want to play,
But that is our second and then the dirty In
the last month, our five a six fifty five. Yeah,
getting like six a day.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Questions question about the more Mojo podcast, because I know
that we have you know, different, you know versions of it.
We have this one here, which is the whole show,
and then we have the We Don't and we have
Mike and Meghan's podcast, which is the slightly messy podcast.
Out of those ones, which ones have gotten some of
the better listens and which topics have been.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Of all time in the last month, within.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
The last even year or so? Yeah, which ones? Which
ones have people gone, Oh, I kind of like that
one or whatever. Mike and Meghan's podcast, by the way,
is it does really huge? It's yeah, it does great.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
So Actually Megan is featured on this one. But our
number one download of the year is the We Don't
podcast where Meghan opens up to you and Chelsea.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
That was with Meghan and Lydia. Right Lydia, you were
on that one too.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Yeah, we were breaking an entering wrapping, like we were
doing all the gift wrapping and stuff, and then we
ended up recording we.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Don't We talked about that was where the first time
that Lydia kind of opened up a little bit about
her mom too on that and her relationship with her mom,
and then Megan talked about her mom and that too,
which I like doing the after show podcast, but like
Zach had has an idea for a podcast that he
wants to do, and I'm like, do that on the air,
(14:30):
like bring it to the air, because I like, I
want the listeners to be able to participate in them.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
So, wait, what's your idea for a podcast?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Missed Opportunities with uh? What sucks? Did you know?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
And this is a tease. You know he's got a
side hustle and his other job that he's doing. He's
been getting fucked by girls.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
No wait wait wait wait wait, okay, no, no, no,
I don't miss He's like my little brother.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
No connections like they used have on Craigslist where you'd say,
I saw.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
You opportunities, this opportunity, so like, uh, let's say I
could have this big titty bitch, but I.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
So then you'd come on and hope that she would
hear it, so you.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Could, you could.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
That wasn't my team.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Okay, I don't understand. I'm more interested in this than
the podcast. Maybe he just said you can't just breeze
past that.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Basically, I had a job in New York where I
was a dog walker and my new okay, that was
one of my.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Jobs's part of the skill.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
I see this, and I see.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
I started a new job recently where I'm a dog
walker again, and it reminds me of this one lady
that I used to dog walk for in New York.
And that's the story I was going to bring up.
And I don't know if you want to even is that?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Is that a euphemism for sex?
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Can do this tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I wish. So that's that's the missed opportunity.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I wish tomorrow. All Right, we got to put this
in the podcast or for the kids are in the card? Yes, God,
I love I love Zach.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I did not think of you that way.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Okay, So so here here's something saying it.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, I like seeing the reaction.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Here's something interesting, you guys. You know, our show UH
has some really loyal people that listen to it, and
they're not just in Grand Rapids, Toledo, and uh Detroit.
But one of the things that I've noticed since Zach
joined the show and since KP started doing the great
job with the TikTok wore the roses, the ratings have
(16:52):
been fantastic. Okay, We've had great you know, listenership on
our rating stuff. I've had conversations with other shows that
have gotten more viral having listened to our show and
seeing what we're doing where we're podcasting during the show.
(17:13):
Isn't it archaic to think how we did it before,
where we did our entire show and we waited till
the end of the show to put a podcast up, like.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
And it wouldn't go up until like two or three o'clock.
You know, there is so much missed opportunity.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
You know what it reminds me of. It reminds me
of how remember TV shows and they still do this.
They'll air like Law and Order SVU on Thursday nights
and it won't appear on Apple or on your Comcast
whatever it is, you know, pay per view. It won't
(17:46):
appear on there for like months, And I'm like, why
would you not put it on there for right away?
So that people can watch it if it just aired.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
You know, I don't get that.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
And there are some there are some radio shows. I
was having a conversation with a radio show in Phoenix,
and thank god they don't work for our company, because
they they were kind of idiots, but they were for
another company, and they were saying to me, they're like, yeah,
you know, we've got like a you know, a show
of like four people, and we don't podcast or we
don't put our podcasts up there for like a week
(18:16):
and a half because we're afraid that people because they
said and they didn't understand how dumb that sounds.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Wait, why why don't they Because.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
They they said that they didn't want to put it
up there because they didn't want other radio shows to
hear their topics because they figure out other radio shows
will steal from who cares.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
You need to be confident, you know, in your own content.
To just do it like that is just ridiculous, and.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
You got to like, you got to put it out.
If you're double thinking about it, then it's the moment's
already passed.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But also, it's not like your listeners are going to
be listening to a morning show in like Portland, Maine.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
We steals your crap.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
The funny thing is that I remember the day when
we used to as radio shows, go listen at seven
twenty tomorrow morning. Remember that while we would do the
teas seven thirty tomorrow morning, we're going to tell you
the big announcement that we're going to make. Now it's
almost like, here's the fucking big announcement. Yeah, and let
everybody just know what it is.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
My favorite thing like reminiscing for just a second that
you used to do, and I was not used to
it when I first came on this radio show. But
we cut loo They're called sweepers after the show every day.
So like Mojo is saying, we promote you know what
tickets were giving away for tomorrow or whatever. What you know,
big contest we have, and we used to do a
ton of interviews with celebrities.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
This is great.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
We would we'd stand here in Mojo and be like, Okay,
we're gonna tape for tomorrow, Okay, okay, and he'd be like, okay.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Coming up.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
On Wednesdays, Mojo in the morning, we're talking to Justin
Bieber and uh and Selena Gomez and Kim Kardashian at
listen at.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Eight o'clock and we'd get done taping.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
And I'd be like, holy shit, we have Bieber and
Selena and and you know whatever I just said, and
he'd be like, no, fuck no, but we just want
people to listen.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
It was so runny. I was like, Wow, I can't wait.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
I'm going to prep tonight for b board. He's like, yeah, no,
he's not calling it.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
But the best was the best was when the guests
were so big. It'd be like, tomorrow morning at eight o'clock,
Oprah is going to be on the show, and I
would have salespeople walking up to us, going, fuck you guys,
have Oprah. But the greatest part was that people would
and this is actually something I stole from Man Cow
(20:31):
who was a morning guy in Chicago for years. He
would do that and I would listen to hear his interview,
and I noticed he never had the people on for
the interview, and I realized, I don't think listeners give
a shit about the interviews. But it sounds good, like
you sound like the show that everybody is right right,
Because you know how the late night talk shows always
like will put like big celebrities on there, and I'm like,
(20:51):
we're just a dumb radio show. That the funniest ones
when we would have the celebrities Shannon, people.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Were like, yeah, I don't believe.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Well, you wouldn't even believe of us.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
He would be like, oh, I wouldn't prep and I'd
be like, damn it, Barack Obama.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, no, it really was Obama, and I was like,
oh my god, I thought he was joking. All right, Zach,
what else we're taking over your podcast? What else is
going on besides you dog walking girls?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I don't even know?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
What do you guys pick question for Zach real quick
on this? And Kevin, you know Zach about as well
as anybody, right, you guys hang out with each other
and stuff. What do you think Zach is? Is he
a top or a bottom? Which one is he?
Speaker 5 (21:37):
What?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
What kind of what do you think?
Speaker 5 (21:40):
So?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, like when you picture him having sex, he's on top.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
I think that Zach is a little more intense than
we think.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
You think, so, oh, yeah, let's go.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
I think he's a very I think he's a very
generous lover. Oh and I think that he knows what
he's doing, what he from what he's told me because
back when our guys shown Stripe was here, we would
get very deep about each other's lives, and from what
Zach was telling us, I had a feeling that he's
(22:12):
good in the bedroom.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Wow, Zach, it's interesting because I know you're great with podcasting.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
My hands.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
That's oh boy, that's pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
The The amazing thing is when I picture Zach, I
picture that he sits there and goes, Okay, hey, how
you doing? What's going on? Like he's really kind?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Do you think he screams let's go before it happens?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I don't know. It's if you were going to have
if you're gonna have a porn, would would your porn
be titled Let's Go?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I can't even look at you, right.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
I literally can't.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
This podcast.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
I don't know, Zach side business is gonna be busting
after this.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I actually watched that movie last night. That's the only
reason I have that.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah, oh my god, disappointed. Oh question for you because
this used to be something too that our bosses used
to hate when we talk sex on the show, and
then we would do certain topics that were you know,
very I would say risk and they would do very
(23:28):
well in both ratings, but then they would also do
great in our podcast. Can you see titles of things
or is it just dates? Look look through some of
the podcasts and read the titles out, and let's see
which ones are titled to be like very very good show,
the show just yeah, like like segments because I remember
one time our boss, Uh this is an old boss,
(23:51):
not Tony, but I remember him. He used to say,
you know, you should never title it. You know, uh,
what was the name of that movie? You said back
door or backdoor Horse, And you shouldn't do it that
way because people aren't gonna like, who wants to listen
to backdoor Horse? Well, it found that it's bullshit. When
you title it something that is you know what it is,
(24:13):
it makes people want to listen to it.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I feel like the more clickable it becomes.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, I will. What people don't know is I'm actually
bad at naming podcasts. So I will shout out to
Mojo and Shannon for helping me name them.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Here's a question, Yeah, if you can go back to
because I just saw this on that thing here three
twenty six, twenty twenty four See how the podcast keV
pulled what out of his throat? See how that that podcast.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I will also say, while I'm looking for this, a
lot of like personal topics like Shannon doesn't want to
walk down the aisle, or Kevin Cherrell get in a fight,
or keV is the best, greatest boyfriend ever? Like those
do really well. So, like I guess, doing well in
(25:04):
relationships people love hearing that okay, or.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Not doing well or not doing well.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
But that got six and eighty five Uh on the
day of on the day of, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Wow, okay compared to seventy thousand. Cav's got to pull
some better stuff out of his throat?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Well, that was just.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Okay, Okay, we should be keV pulled. keV pulled a
big giant you know, something out of his throat? Go ahead?
What are some of the other ones entitled?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
She? She was blown dry? Wait, she was blown That.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Was mine the lady at the gym.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
keV has food phobia. Okay, popular movies. You haven't seen
Megan's Girl Math. This is just in the last month.
By the way, uh, do you bring a gift to
an out of town wedding? We have some in studio
visits that people love. Oh, guys. You want to know
how well we did on our live Mojo podcast. Yeah, yeah,
(26:12):
I think we got like ten thousand views, really ten
thousand plays and just like the last few days.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Wow. Which is funny because I talked to Steve Gabara.
He wasn't there. He listened to the whole thing really,
and I said to him, I go, was it boring
to listen to? He said, no, it's extremely entertaining to
listen to.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
It's the very first top one. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
That's awesome, which was pretty wild because you would think
that if you weren't there. It was so visual because
of all the guests and stuff.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I think people love hearing that stuff though.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Yeah, and they also like to hear themselves back like
they like to. It's like watching a movie twice that.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
You loved, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
It's something I started doing, uh, and I need to
do it more often. I started doing a little bit
at the beginning and of the year was I would say, hey, Julie,
you know when you're at first time a long time people,
hey send this send this podcast to your friends so
that they can hear you on the air. Because it's
kind of like you remember when a TV station would
(27:10):
be out and you'd be the one in the back
waving or hey this. I would like send that video
all the time to people and go, look I was
on TV. Well radio has got more people listening to
it than people are watching TV, so that's kind of cool.
We should almost. I wish that we had like really
good marketing department and and and stuff like. I wish
(27:31):
we had that and we could put out there. Well,
I would love to have I would love to have
a T shirts made up of first time, long time,
and I would love to have T shirts that were
made up of Oh.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
You have no idea? What's coming?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Oh? Really?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Okay? What about journal cakes? Oh my god? Should you
should you have like the face on there? Or should
it be like I'm and my boyfriend whore cheated on
me on War the Roses, All the girls don't have
urinal cakes in theirs? Or yeah, what else, sach, I'm
(28:09):
taking over your finger?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
No, no, you're good. You want to know My least
favorite thing about the podcast, like hands down on Spotify
and Apple, It's will only play up to like a
year year and a half, Like it only has a
year maybe two years of.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Old podcasts They don't save everything.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
It does not because we upload so frequently that Yeah,
there's like a quota. So if you listen on that
and or if you save that link, make sure you
find it on the iHeartRadio app or spreaker dot com.
We have them all saved.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
But what is spreaker dot com.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
It is a third party app that iHeart owns. That's
how I upload the.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Podcast and you can actually have an account down there. Yeah,
Joe told me this. My son Joe from The Joe
Show said, he goes dad, he goes I listened to
a lot of radio shows and he has a lot
of friends that are in you know, radio, like we
all do. And he said, you know what is really amazing,
it's amazing to see how your full podcast of your
(29:11):
full show is three hours and some odd minutes, and
an other show that is considered to be like what
your show is, you know, a show on a top
forty radio station, there's like an hour and twenty something.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
We do talk a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
We talk a lot, and I wish people could see
that we don't even get through like twenty percent of
what we plan for our show. Yeah, because we're talking
so much and we we digress or we get a
great call, or we take the time to you know,
like a topic's really good and we stay on it.
For we That's probably one of the number one questions
(29:48):
excuse me, I always get is how do you guys
find so much to talk about for five hours?
Speaker 4 (29:52):
I'm like, you don't understand.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
We have extra when we're done, and we have extra
that will usually roll over to the next day or whatever.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Well, having this conversation with Joe, and I said, because
I think that those should their show should talk more.
They have great content. And I said to him, I go,
here's the problem, Like, we can't podcast the throwback throw
down because there's music. If you're a show and you're
playing six or eight songs an hour, that's six or
(30:20):
eight times what three minutes or so or three minutes
and thirty seconds each one, that's how much time you
don't get listeners to hear twenty four so all they're
hearing is the songs, and so you're not getting rated
for that period of time. Basically, when you're able to
listen to, you know, people get you give us ratings
by listening to these podcasts.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
Question for you, yes, do you feel like radio stage,
and not all are the same, right, maybe some of
them are doing it for different reasons, But do you
feel like they're cheating the listeners?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Because of cheating? Give me any not talk as long
is Yeah, if they're a good show, I feel like,
you know, no offense to you know, like KP does
our midday shift, but I'd rather hear you know. People
I don't necessarily think come to radio stations as much
for just the music. I think they come for the
(31:14):
entertainment of value of the people. And I think that
these music shows that just play a ton of music,
like I get during the day you have office listening
and stuff like that. But realistically, if you want to
listen to music, just go to the iHeart app and
just play the song yeah right yeah, or play a
playlist that's on there.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
I always say, like when I do my show, if
I'm not saying something interesting, relevant or new every single break,
like something that provides value to the listener, what's the
fucking point? Like why are you talking if it's not
worth listening to, Like you're not an announcer, you're not
a secretary, you're not the news, Like just share things
(31:52):
that people learn more from what you're saying or entertaining. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
I'm not a of throwaway breaks just because that's just
what's the point of what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yeah, yeah, just because it says you should have a
talk with.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
You like hearing your voice, Okay, then go like do
your own podcast.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Well and I but I also say this that there
are those people that definitely want to know the title
in our you know song, name of the song, because
a lot of times people don't necessarily know, so that
you may get some people that get pissed at you
for never saying that. But I do think that there's
race there.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Tony does have us like those are like the basics
of on your stuff, like you have to like talk
out or into songs. So but yeah, it's not all
the time that we do that.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
But I'm thinking of a morning show, like if if
you're a morning show and you're playing, you know, twelve
songs an hour, you know which, I know that there
are some shows in our radio market here that do that.
I'm thinking that you're wasting a lot of potential ratings
time by doing that, you know which, I don't even
know why I'm giving these guys they had advice talk more.
(32:57):
But but then I'll say that when I first started
doing this thing, even Channing, when we started together, you know,
I've been doing it for a little bit, I don't
think we were good enough to talk as much as
we talk now.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Yeah, we definitely played a lot more music.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah, So I mean I think they you know, sometimes
you know, as time goes on and you get to
know people, you get better content.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
You have to show them your skills first.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah, and then there's also some Mondays or Fridays where
I'm going, fuck, can we just play a bunch all right, Zach? Yeah,
what a great podcast? This is great. How will you
feel if this podcast has like great numbers or bad numbers? Well,
will you go back and look at it? Since you're
(33:39):
an analytical.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Guy, I probably will, to be honest with you, but
you know, sometimes you just gotta roll with it and
then we're on to the next thing. So I'm looking
forward to that topic tomorrow and looking forward to next Tuesday.
Whoever's hosting, I think that's keV No sorry bro' that
is KP.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
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