May 23, 2024 • 37 mins
More KSR Live from KSBar & Grille talking all the latest UK sports news, UK Football, and the Scottie Scheffler case in Louisville.
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Speaker 4 (01:29):
All right, welcome back Kentucky Sports Radio Way. I don't
know what to tell you about the technical stuff, but uh,
you know what more fitting way to have our last
show here in Lexington than to have things.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Not work that'll ease your worries as you go on.
They there for two months.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
There's no doubt that if you wanted to make it
to where I felt better about everything, this.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Is exactly the way to do it.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
And I hate it because we got a great, a
lot nice group of people here who clearly wanted to
come out for the final uh for the final one
here and I hate it, but we'll we'll do the
best we can. We've certainly run enough commercials I think
for most of the show, Drew, so we should be good.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
Uh, nowhere to go up after you leave today. I mean,
what's what's Ryan's topics? If we can't even talk about
him through the equipment?
Speaker 5 (02:15):
I know, So there you go.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
So the thing is, we ran a brand and people
don't care A five nine two eight oh twenty two
eighty seven. The text machine is seven seven to two
seven seven four five two five four.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
A little bit of an update on the thing.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
We've talked about for the last couple of days, on
that college football basketball settlement.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
I know it's dry, but I want to talk.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I want to go over it while I'm here because
it's gonna happen while I'm gone.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
And I learned more about it yesterday.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
So the SE, so the ACC and Big twelve have
approved it. We're down to the SEC and Big ten.
They were ones that the ones that crafted the settlement,
so they're almost certain to approve it.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
So it's happening now.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I talked to one of the people involved in the
crafting of the settlement yesterday for a couple hours because
I really was curious, and I'm just gonna tell you,
big picture, this is really good for college sports. Big picture.
If you want to save college sports. This was really
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the only way to do it, So in that respect,
I'm glad it's happening. Small picture, it's going to be
a circus for the next two years, twenty twenty six,
twenty twenty seven, college sports will be kind of in
a place that I think will all be if not happy,
well it'll be all right. But until then, it's going
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to be a circus. It's gonna be a good time
to be a college athlete. But let me just give
you a couple of examples of how this is going
to be complicated. A lot of people don't know this.
This settlement doesn't have anything to do with football. Start
with that. You know, the NCAA doesn't get any money
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from football. I don't know if people realize that, but
when you talk about the NCAA football goes through the conferences.
There is no NCAA.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Tournament for football.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
So the NCAA makes all of its money, all of
its money really from the NCAA men's basketball tournament and
now is starting to make a little bit from the
women's tournament. All the rest of this stuff loses money,
all of it, but they make a ton of money
from the NCAA Men's basketball tournament. So this settlement is
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actually about basketball football the SEC. All the money SEC
teams get from football comes through the conference office, not
from the NCAA office, and the College Football Playoff is
not run by the NCAA. I don't know if people
always realize that, but it's not. So this two point
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eight million dollar settlement actually doesn't have anything to do
with football players. As a matter of fact, I expect
you will see groups of football players now start to
sue their conferences.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I would say the.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
SEC will ultimately be sued by SEC football players and etc.
So this is basically basketball and every sport. But these
schools want to, as part of the future, fix football.
So even though the settlement will be for basketball players
and others, the future will include the football players. And
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so I ask more about the future because a lot
of us don't care about the pain of the past.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
It's gonna cost your school a lot of money, but
it is what it is in the future.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
The number is twenty two million dollars, So I want
you to think about what this means. You're every team
in a power conference will be allotted basically twenty two
million dollars to spend in the SEC and the Big
ten that twenty two million dollars comes from really big
TV contracts. But in the ACC and Big twelve they
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will have the ability to pay twenty two million dollars,
but they're getting significantly less money from television.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
So actually, the person I was talking to was like,
you know.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
The schools that are in the most trouble with this
ACC and Big twelve because if they want to compete
with the SEC and Big ten, they're gonna have to
spend the twenty two million dollars, but they have less
money to get for it. You see what I'm saying,
So that these ACC and Big twelve schools are left
with a choice spend half as much money as the
SEC and Big ten and be less competitive, or spend
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it and have less money.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Tough choice, for it is a tough choice.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Then each school is gonna get this twenty two million dollars.
And here's what's key. It applies to every athlete at
the school. So it is going to be up to
the school to decide what they want to spend money on.
Do you want to vote to vote fifteen million of
your dollars to football three to basketball.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Fans, us as fans.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
We will know what our school is prioritizing by how
much money they put into Huh. Mitch Barnhart will have
to decide how much money is Mark Stoop's gonna get
for players, how much money is Mark Pope gonna get?
How much money is Kenny Brook's gonna get. The schools
do not believe that Title nine will require them to
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pay men and women the same amount of money. They
will still have to give men and women the same
amount of scholarships, but they will not have to pay
them the same amount of money. I won't go into
the complicated reason. I think the schools are probably right
about that. Why you'd have to know the history of
Title nine. Let's just assume they're right about it. But
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just think about what Mitch Barnhardt or any athletic director
is gonna have to do when when their basketball coach
comes and says I need seven million, their football coach
comes and says I need twelve million. But here's another
thing that I didn't think about. Because this money is
going to be paid by a university, we will all
know what every kid is paid because it will be
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public record now. So just like we know what every
player make or coach makes. Now we will know what
every player makes. And I want you to think about
what happens when you when a school pays five percent
of its school wide salary cap to a player who's
not performing.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Drew criticism is gonna change a little.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
What's that gonna be like? What's it gonna be like?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Remember when I said yesterday schools are gonna have to
choose which sport they like. What's it gonna be like
If Kentucky says we're gonna give a million dollars to
volleyball and we lose a basketball player because that money
went to the volleyball per what's our fan base gonna say?
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Then? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Now, here's what can happen and what will happen. Private
collectives will be able to spend more money than the
twenty two million dollars if they want, but it can
now be banned officially from being part of recruiting and
can get you on probation for it.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Now, we'll team.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Still do it, of course they will, but they can't
be as blatant about it.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
This will be back to the old days of rules.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
But if you sit and think about what that means
when we watch Kentucky play and player A is starting
over player B when player B is better, but we
know the money each of them are paid. It's gonna
be I don't It's going to be a massive, massive shift.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
And the other thing is schools are considering whether to
allow private equity involved. Also very complicated.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
But now there's a chance that an investor Mario Investments
could say to UK, I'll give you twenty million dollars
this year, but you have to give me five percent
of your profits. Is the public gonna like that? Is
the public gonna see Mario as a positive? Are they
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going to see him as a negative? Everyone will know
Mario gave the money because that will have to be
public record.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
There will be schools that will do that. It's almost
as I was talking to this person yesterday and they
were going all over all of the ramifications. I was thinking,
this is probably gonna end up better, but it's gonna
be a completely different thing, like a completely different thing,
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and schools will have to choose. That whole conversation we
had two years ago about basketball versus football schools, here's
a little secret.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Schools are gonna have to choose. They're gonna have to choose,
and they're gonna have to choose a right. Do you
want to care about baseball? Do you want to care?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
And I I think I don't know what's gonna happen,
to be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Drew, But I I'm a legal dork, so I probably
care about this more than most. But it will affect
all of us as fans in a way that I
don't think we realize it.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
We should all care about it because the way we've
consumed college sports has changed so much in the last
couple of years will look completely different in a couple
more years. I think what's gonna be interesting is what
you're saying about how you know a player's say salary,
and this used to be you know these are kids,
don't say that, don't say this if he's taking a
big chunk of your university's money and not playing well.
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People won't be able to help themselves in criticism of players.
No longer the kids the student athletes anymore. This is
a pro sport.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
And by the way, now when a school promises a
player money, they will have to do it. Like right now,
we've talked about how a lot of these kids do
not get the money they're told. I'll go so far
as to say I think eighty percent of these kids
don't get the.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Money they're told.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Well, that won't be true anymore because you're not gonna basically,
you're not gonna be able to do that anymore because
it'll be a state contract. These collectives that exist will
now basically merge into the school. The school will have
a collective and it's just gonna be very, very different.
And is it better probably in the long run, but
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these are gonna be a bumpy couple years.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
It's another reason to be glad win the SEC because
it sounds like these conference.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
As I was this guy talks. As I was listening
to this guy talk, here's what I thought. Everybody focuses
on what this will mean for Eastern and more Head.
I think those schools will be able to adjust. They'll
just work within their budgets. The schools that are gonna
be under a lot of pressure if you're not in
the SEC or Big ten and you want to compete
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with them, those schools are gonna have the hardest times.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Louisville and schools like Louisville.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
This probably affects them more than anyone, because Louisville's gonna
have to play Kentucky every year, making half as much
money and trying to build a roster to do it.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
How do they do that? That's gonna be hard.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
It's more than likely. I'm guessing like a school like
Kansas that wants to be ultra competitive in basketball.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Perfect example, and then take a duke in basketball. All right,
So Duke might make this decision. You know what, most
of you schools are spending fifty percent on your money
on football. How about we spend fifty percent of our
money on basketball. Yeah, and just kind of go eh whatever.
In football it's duke football. All of a sudden, Duke
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basketball has three times as much money as anybody else does.
Maybe Kansas chooses to do that, all right, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Those are two schools that could do it, not a
lot of history in the sport.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
And then a school like Gonzaga or Villanova who either
doesn't have football or it's not major football, might just
decide it a basketball and it all on basketball. There's
gonna be so many different ways to do it. And
whichever here's what I think, is Osco gonna whichever school's
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the smartest is gonna win.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
You better hire smart people. The days of hiring Joe
Bob who used to play football to be your athletic director,
that's over. You better hire some dude that went to
Harvard that knows how to do analytics and statistics and
money in order to make your basketball and football programs good.
So who's next?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Fake Ralph Hacker?
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Fake? I'll tell you what make fake? Ralph Hacker? Hold,
We'll come back.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
He's been holding the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I mean making hold another one, all right, because that
that's not the exact response to.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
This I want.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
But so first time, long time, I was calling in
because I had an idea about our what we could
do instead of the painted rock that Tennessee does. Back
in the forties, and Ryan can probably help with the
names of everybody. Back in the forties, there was a
buzzer beater that was shot from pretty far back, maybe
about half court, and it was such a big game
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that the governor came in and nailed putting nail in
on the floor to mark the spot. So I thought,
maybe our thing to do what died into their He
put a nail in the floor, So he went and
drove nail into the floor of the court to mark
where that shot happened because it was such a big
deal or whatever. So if we kind of got our
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if we kind of staged a photo op where we
had a big recruits driving nail. I think it was
a nail like a railroad spike. I'm real big, And uh,
they could do that. Talk about like an Instagram photo
op or something like that. We could graze their names
on a big old railroad spike that they drive in.
And I thought that'd be a good idea.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
So you think, to the Tennessee painted rock, we get
a railroad spike in customize.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
It's better than a paint and rock.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Well, I mean, I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
First of all, I'm baffled that a painted rock has
that much persuasion on where a kid would go to school.
I don't know if it actually does. I don't know
if it's tongue in cheek, you know. Obviously, Lanier thought
it was cool enough to post on his Instagram story
with the caption woe.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
So I guess maybe it had some impact.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
And maybe, you know, that's the one thing about Kentucky
for a team in a school that has so much history,
in tradition. We don't have We almost lack tradition in
that sense, you know, like we don't we don't have
an object that the players can go out and and uh,
you know, paint or you know, customize to welcome into recruit.
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So I don't know, maybe you're onto something.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Good a suggestion that we've heard it from anybody else.
So thank you for the call. Yeah, well, we appreciate
it quickly. Ralph Hacker, go ahead, I'll try to put
you on. I'm gonna give you your thirty seconds.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Go ahead.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Oh shaty.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
This is the barber voice of the Wildcats. I was
calling in to wish Matt a safe in summer traveling
through Europe, and I wanted to push him, just safe travels,
and I hope that he has better weather. I did
when I was in France back in the summer of
twenty nineteen, and it was the hottest as Ralph Hacker
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has ever been. But I hope that Matt has a
safe summer vacation. Don't worry about things back here, because
I'm sure we got it.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
We got it, We're gonna be over up against it.
I hope that his vacation's a lot better than this show.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Today.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
We're going to take a break. We'll be right back KSR.
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Speaker 2 (17:55):
Here's Matt Jones.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Well we're on for right now.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Keep your fingers crossed.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
We'll see.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
We are here at Chaos Bar and Girl. Thank thank
you to the patience of the folks who came here.
It's very nice of you all to come here on
the uh on the on the last day that we'd
be in.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Lexington, but unfortunately it hasn't been great. Tuck.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
You just hit a home run though, So now three
nothing cats here in the in the SEC tournament.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Tran Nicholson. He's a kid from Saint X.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Just so you know, if we go off again, Shannon
has a best of ready to Run, so that we
don't play another three and a half minutes of were
Wolves of London.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
You go to you go to Europe, and you don't
worry a bit about this show. It'll just well, like
the smooth oil train.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I'm not gonna act like this was the smoothest the
smoothest entrance into into going.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
But that's okay.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
If this happens Tuesday and I take a baseball bat
to it, what's next step?
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Is he doing? Like an office space?
Speaker 7 (18:53):
There?
Speaker 4 (18:53):
I mean there, and we just pound that thing until
it until it works. I don't know what are you
gonna do? Uh eight, I'm nine twenty two eighty seven.
Couple open lines. I'd love to talk to you. I
did want to. We'll talk about one fun thing. Did
you see the videos You saw the videos of all
the snakes at the PGA term? Yes, like there were
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twice snakes got on the tee or on the green
and two different people reached and picked them up and
walked away from right.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Would you do that?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I have a fear of snakes.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
I couldn't do it.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I would probably try to get somebody else. If not,
I'm looking for a shovel. I'm not picking it up
with my hand.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Would you pick up a snake and move it by
yourself to while ESPN is watching, so you look like
a hero to the country because you picked up a
snake and you moved it.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
No, I'm not really afraid of snakes. I've picked one
up before, but I'm not gonna go out of my
way to get one to be on TV.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
What's the scenario where you've picked up snakes before? Uh?
Speaker 6 (19:52):
We had one in college. Uh, but it I haven't
had the head of it, like all the way in
my mouth too. We'd mess around with them a fun
little snakes.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
What what you did?
Speaker 8 (20:01):
What?
Speaker 6 (20:02):
Yeah? I think his name is Myrta.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
But why would you put the head of the snake
in your mouth?
Speaker 6 (20:07):
And off? Had had a few cocktails at that point
night probably was a there might have been some money
on the table, just goofing off. Yeah, just you and
the I don't think the snake still here, but we're
all still here. You and the boys just put snakes
in your mouth. I will say I have a current
issue right now. I'm meant to bring this up. My
next door neighbor posted on our Facebook like neighbor Facebook
group a gigantic snake that he found in his yard,
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which is next to my yard. I mean it's a
big guy, and he I thought.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Yes, is it poisonous?
Speaker 6 (20:36):
This thing's big though, And I'm I'm barefoot in my
yard a lot. I am a little uneasy when I'm
walking around these days, So even though I'm not afraid.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
We don't have so we have really poisonous snakes in Lexington.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
I know there are some like are there.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Like there's copperheads.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Copperheads in Lexington in the little ponds and lakes and things.
Here's telling me there's.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Copper heads in the city of I think I know
they're out in the Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Yeah, this is what was found in the yard next
to me. Would that intimidate you a little bit?
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Yeah, so that's running around my neighborhood.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Well you say, yes, we say go for a hike.
There's nowhere to hike in Lexi.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
There's no parks.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Well, I mean there are parks, but there's copperheads. Tell
me there's copperheads in parks, Like.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, I would guarantee that they're everywhere.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
There ain't there native to Kentucky for sure?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Well for sure, like in the mountains and stuff that
you're saying even here. Oh yeah, so if I'm walking
down the street, I could see a coppy.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
They're not gonna get an uber.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I mean, goa be right there.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Instance, it wasn't a copperhead, but I mean snakes are everywhere.
I went for a walk in a park a couple
of weeks ago and there's huge snake as like, why
as the road was right in front of me, I
didn't touch that thing.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I just let let it go on its own time.
I completely stopped.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
I was prassed at Valhalla that these dudes would just
reach up and grab it. And it was like it
was not people that worked at Valhalla, it was like
just regular.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Some dude from Shelbyville is one of them, regular dudes
from Shelbyville doing it? And I was, I'll be honest
with you, quite impressed with that. Who's up next?
Speaker 7 (22:13):
J J?
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Craig Craig by the way, is that Craig Greenberg is
on the Golf Channel? Can we get that on the
on the TV? I'd like to see that go ahead?
Speaker 8 (22:24):
Yeah, what's up? Man?
Speaker 7 (22:25):
I want to get with your safe trip and happy
but you have fun over there heron.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Thank you, sir, Drew.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
I was, I was.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
I was the one that tweeted you yesterday about the
L s U game.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I'm glad you want.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I'm sad we got our win.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
We needed to win more than.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Do so I'm glad you got one runs and I'm
glad we got the win. So sorry, I wanted both
wins with congratulations.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
That's all, good man, Matt, I was did you hear
about the kid suing the coach from Florida?
Speaker 5 (22:54):
I did.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah, I can't sue the coach for not giving him
the amount of his n I l D. I think
that will continue to happen, at least until this new
system that we talked about UH gets into place.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Yeah, because I was wondering that it canna be the
nor them now and intend the SEC is gonna be interesting.
The big team can be powerful, but that might be
the norm, you think, Yeah, I mean, I appreciate the call.
I mean the reality.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Okay, So here's a piece of law that people don't
always realize. You can have a contract without it being
written down. They're verbal contracts. So like if I if
I were to say to you, sir, like I'll take
the guy right here. If I were to say to you,
I will give you five hundred dollars to mow my
grass right and you say, okay, I will mow your grass.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
We have a contract at that point right now. It's
gonna be hard for you to prove it.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
That's why you always want to write something down, because
there's a difference between having a contract and proving you
have a contract. So if this guy was promised X
amount of money and he didn't get it, technically he
had a contract and they owe it to it. But
he's gonna have to be able to prove that they
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had that agreement. And if I've offered you five hundred
dollars to mow my grass and we didn't write it down,
and the only two people were you and I, and
you said I did and I say I didn't, you're
gonna not be able to prove it. But if you
had gone out and mowed my lawn, you'd actually have
some proof because the judge would go, why in the
world would he mow his lawn?
Speaker 5 (24:31):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Yeah, Well, so this dude came to Florida and so
he's gonna have to prove somehow that that amount of
money was offered to him. I don't know what proof
he has, but the idea that a contract could have
existed without it being written down, that can't happen.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Ryan, It's just you got to prove it, and that's hard.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I think this is the first incident where this is
going to happen A lot. I think some kids will
probably promised money, maybe didn't get all that they would promise,
start suing the universities or coaches.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Yeah, I'm just interested to see if is there any
way maybe not with how things change so much. If
one of these NIL lawsuits, could they get into investigating
the football program at Florida? And that leads to other
things like how do they even look into the NIL
stuff here without uncovering more they could possibly be doing so.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
According to Mayor Greenberg in Louisville, there is a fixed
camera video inside the police there's a fixed camera video
from a pole outside of the on the street, and
there is a dash cam on the on the police car.
But they do not believe that there's a camera that
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captures the initial interaction.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Between Scheffler and the police department.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
So the sixty four thousand dollars question of the interact,
the first interaction that spawned this, it doesn't look like
there will be a camera about that.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
First I heard there's dashboard camera. I didn't know that
was even out there.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
But a dashboard camera though in the police car after
it wouldn't be a dashboard camera in Scottie Sheffer's car.
It would be in the police car, so that probably
would not be very helpful.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
To the case.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
At it.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
You have to get really lucky that it was on
the right spot. Yeah, So so it looks like it'll
just be kind of what we just talked about. It'll
be one words, one person's word over another.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Af I'm nine two eight zero twenty two eighty seven,
One person writes, Matt, do you think Mark Pope by
the time you get back will have commitments for next
year's class? So the guys in the twenty twenty five class. True,
you follow that a little more closely than I do.
Do you think that'll happen by the time you're back?
I'll say no, but not too far away from one.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
You know he's putting the pressure on Malachymarino up a
great crossing and Jasper Johnson here in town. That might
be a good way to get that class started by
both those guys.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Two guys from Kentucky name to the under seventeen team
USA Team?
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Yeah, which is Has that ever happened before? Do you
think there's ever been two two Kentucky players named to.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
That not to the USA team?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
No?
Speaker 6 (27:16):
No, I think I think Scotty Hopson might have played
for it. Scotty, I don't even know who else would
be on that. It's just the only someone recently I
could think that even played for it.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Yeah, so that's uh, that's a great honor. Do you
think he gets those two guys? I had a high
school assistant coach I know. Tell me he thinks he
ends up with certainly Jasper Johnson and maybe Malachi as well.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
If I was betting, I'd say yes, the odds are
probably in our favor to get both of them right now.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Yeah, I hope so too. I love the Perry Noah
connection into just keeping the homegrown talent coming. That would
be great to start Pope's career in a second season.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Dude, I agree with this texter who goes, why are
they not spending more time talking about Drew Franklin putting
a snake in his mouth?
Speaker 5 (27:59):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
You said that though, Like you said that, like you
did a keg stand like that was normally. I understand
that that's not the same thing. Putting a snake in
your mouth is a much more bizarre thing.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
I think there's photo epens of it. Uh, you know,
might have might have the next day been like, no,
I didn't and then oh, yeah, there's the video. Yeah,
I guess we did do that.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Do you know anybody else? What do you mean just
goofing off? That's not a thing, guys.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Just so. The snake lived in the basement, and occasionally
I won't say his name, but Corey would be like, hey,
you can't find a snake, and we'd all just have
to keep our feet up on the couch because we
weren't sure it'd be It was just one of the boys.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Okay, all of those things, Mario, just make sure I'm
not going crazy. Like, all of those things make sense
to me. They have a snake. There are people that
have snakes. They're boys hanging out. They were drinking. I
was around Drew in that era. I can buy that
we had a good time.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
I might have gone in for a little good night
smooch with the snake, telling a good night, tucking it in,
and then and then what then, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
One thing led to another. I don't know it happened.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
It's a big deal with how much of the head
did you put inside your head? You put the whole
head in your mouth.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
It lived with us.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
It was fine.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
It would you know, we could leave it on our
arm for an hour to time. It would just rest.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
It was one of us.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
It was everything was fine.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Everything.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
I wouldn't go out and do it with it.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
One in the wild. Oh, so it was like a snake,
you knew. So it wasn't.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Six months. We had six months of building this relationship.
And I mean, I'm sure I fed it at one point.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
If you walk snake hang on, is that how you
would feed it?
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Just I don't know.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
It wasn't my snake. It was my roommate snake. It
just we all felt very comfortable with it. You know,
I've known you a long time. That's one of the
strangest things I ever heard. One time thing I wouldn't
even gonna say it on the radio. Now I feel
like it's gonna be I have to live with this. No, No,
you are the guy that put a snake in Have
you seen road Trip with Tom Green?
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I have.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
It's kind of kind of like that.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Yeah, you know, I just got a little pet snake.
I feed it occasionally.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Well, he put the mouse in his mouth, right, It
wasn't the snake. I think Tom Green had the mouse.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
I didn't have a mouse.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Wow, that that's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Oh well, let me tell you what else we did
in college.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Well, maybe you can do that while I'm gone.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven,
couple open lines, give us a shout. Kentucky leads three
to nothing going into the bottom of the fifth. They're
playing really well. Knock on wood, Let's see if they
can hold on. We'll take a break.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Be right back. This is k S.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Welcome back Tucky Sports Radio. Here Kentucky hit a home
run during the break. Now four nothing in the bottom
of the fifth against Arkansas and a chance to knock
Arkansas out of the turnament. Here's why this would also
be a big deal for Kentucky right now. If the
NCAA Tournament were to start today, they probably would be
the number two seed in the tournament. I think if
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they lost today, the team most likely to pass them
is Arkansas. So maybe by beating Arkansas you ensure they
don't pass you any overall seeds and drew you might
be able to lock in that number two overall seed
in the tournament.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
You agree with that.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
I don't know where they're ranked in all the seeding,
but I know in the RPI Kentucky's four, Arkansas's three,
So we didn't think you could do a whole lot
of resume building. But you beat Arkansas in the second
day of the SEC tournament, that will help.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
D one Baseball, which has kind of been historically the
most accurate, went into this tournament as Kentucky as the
number one overall seed with Tennessee to Arkansas three. But
Tennessee and Arkansas both lost in the first round as well.
And then if you beat Arkansas, who knows, maybe you
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even have a shot at the number one overall seed.
If Tennessee were to lose tonight or something, tenn season
one loss from going home today.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
It looks like if they win this one, they play
the loser of LSU in South Carolina tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Yeah, they could play LSU again.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Could play LSU again, but they've already thrown They threw
their really good guy yesterday, so like you wouldn't have
to necessarily play they're really good pitch. First, you need
to win this one. One thing about Kentucky games we've
seen over the years, over this year, they're never over
for nothing for either team. They are, They're never over.
We'll keep you, keep you up to date on it.
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If I'm nine to two eight zero, twenty two eighty seven,
one person rides Matt. I see your your frustration on
Twitter and on the show yesterday about Antonio Reeves not
being drafted. I'll make you a prediction he's not playing
in the league three years from now. I love him,
but he can't play enough defense. I don't think he
stays in the NBA. I'll take that bet. I think
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he I mean, I'm all for projections, but let's be real.
Who have we had at Kentucky in the last twenty
five years? Who could ball? I mean really ball eighteen
points plus a game. Who's not made the NBA?
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Nobody?
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Do we know anybody? The only one might be Oscar?
First of all, Oscar's on a roster. But Oscar couldn't shoot.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
And I feel like I.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Wish Deeron Lamb would have last longer. But even he
had a couple of years in the league.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Yeah, I just see this.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
I don't see the scenario where you put that guy
on the court and he's not gonna make shots. He's
I bring these numbers up a lot, but like think
about this stat. He scored double digits for US in
every game but one. You know any players in UK
history have done that?
Speaker 6 (33:43):
Three?
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Wow, there's only three players in the UK history you've
had an entire season where they never scored less than
ten points in a game. Dan Issel, Jamal Mashburn And
I want to say Jody Meeks had a year like
that and that's it.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
I feel like reason we will those guys and maybe
people still don't believe a nym. He will go to
the G League average twenty twenty five a game and
then a team will like give him a shot and
he'll make it.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Do you think we will Like in ten years when
you're ranking cal Perry players, will people even put him
in the top twenty.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
I think he'll be forgotten because his two postseason teams.
Really but if you were rand the ways we associate
the memories was what they did in the end.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
All right, let's do a ranking for a second. Would
you rank him ahead of Robin Reid?
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Oh for what they did cour yes? Yes, yes, for
college yes.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
No.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
For the NBA no, But if you're ranking what they
did in college, he's definitely ahead of them. He's not
ahead of Oscar. Okay, but let's just keep going back years.
Is he ahead of anybody on the uh?
Speaker 8 (34:53):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Is he ahead of everybody on the team? Did we
score again? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Scored one, score two six nothing Kentucky? All right, okay,
so is he a head? He's ahead of everybody on
the COVID team?
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Right?
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Yeah, all right?
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Now go to the year before that, Maxy Hagen's quickly?
Is he ahead of those guys?
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Quickly?
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Was the SEC player of the year. That's a close one.
I could hear both arguments there. Okay, let's just for
sake of argument, let's put quickly. I would even lean
Reeves though, I think might certainly head of Hagens. Yes,
probably certainly ahead of Maxie. Go to the year before
Tyler hero PJ. Washington, Nick Richards ahead of that group
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for what they did.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
My point is, I think if you're talking about who
did more at Kentucky, you're gonna have a hard time
putting eight or ten guys.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Ahead of me. Yeah, And yet I just don't think
he'll be remembered like that. Unfortunately.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
I think as time goes on, we just those other
guys were more what you call a fan favorite that
came in with more excitement than or higher expectations, maybe
a little more personality. I just just think over time
and it's not fair to him because he's the leading
score of the cal Era. I think he'll just slowly
drop a little farther and farther down that list.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
I mean, if I'm ranking the best players at Kentucky
this season, Antonio Reeves is number one, Reed Shepherd is
number two, and Rob is probably number three.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
But I think most fans that are not like their
natural instinct would not be to put it like that,
absolutely flip it.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
But that's what it should be. Huh right, yeah, just
so you can do it. Their production, their numbers on
the court. Antonio Reeves had one of the best season
in the cal Era.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
That's exactly right. Hey, thank all of you very much
for coming.
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Speaker 5 (02:28):
A little bit of an update on the thing.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
We've talked about for the last couple of days, on
that college football basketball settlement.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
I know it's dry, but I want to talk.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I want to go over it while I'm here because
it's gonna happen while I'm gone.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
And I learned more about it yesterday.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
So the SE, so the ACC and Big twelve have
approved it. We're down to the SEC and Big ten.
They were ones that the ones that crafted the settlement,
so they're almost certain to approve it.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
So it's happening now.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I talked to one of the people involved in the
crafting of the settlement yesterday for a couple hours because
I really was curious, and I'm just gonna tell you,
big picture, this is really good for college sports. Big picture.
If you want to save college sports. This was really
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the only way to do it, So in that respect,
I'm glad it's happening. Small picture, it's going to be
a circus for the next two years, twenty twenty six,
twenty twenty seven, college sports will be kind of in
a place that I think will all be if not happy,
well it'll be all right. But until then, it's going
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to be a circus. It's gonna be a good time
to be a college athlete. But let me just give
you a couple of examples of how this is going
to be complicated. A lot of people don't know this.
This settlement doesn't have anything to do with football. Start
with that. You know, the NCAA doesn't get any money
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from football. I don't know if people realize that, but
when you talk about the NCAA football goes through the conferences.
There is no NCAA.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Tournament for football.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
So the NCAA makes all of its money, all of
its money really from the NCAA men's basketball tournament and
now is starting to make a little bit from the
women's tournament. All the rest of this stuff loses money,
all of it, but they make a ton of money
from the NCAA Men's basketball tournament. So this settlement is
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actually about basketball football the SEC. All the money SEC
teams get from football comes through the conference office, not
from the NCAA office, and the College Football Playoff is
not run by the NCAA. I don't know if people
always realize that, but it's not. So this two point
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eight million dollar settlement actually doesn't have anything to do
with football players. As a matter of fact, I expect
you will see groups of football players now start to
sue their conferences.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I would say the.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
SEC will ultimately be sued by SEC football players and etc.
So this is basically basketball and every sport. But these
schools want to, as part of the future, fix football.
So even though the settlement will be for basketball players
and others, the future will include the football players. And
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so I ask more about the future because a lot
of us don't care about the pain of the past.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
It's gonna cost your school a lot of money, but
it is what it is in the future.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
The number is twenty two million dollars, So I want
you to think about what this means. You're every team
in a power conference will be allotted basically twenty two
million dollars to spend in the SEC and the Big
ten that twenty two million dollars comes from really big
TV contracts. But in the ACC and Big twelve they
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will have the ability to pay twenty two million dollars,
but they're getting significantly less money from television.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
So actually, the person I was talking to was like,
you know.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
The schools that are in the most trouble with this
ACC and Big twelve because if they want to compete
with the SEC and Big ten, they're gonna have to
spend the twenty two million dollars, but they have less
money to get for it. You see what I'm saying,
So that these ACC and Big twelve schools are left
with a choice spend half as much money as the
SEC and Big ten and be less competitive, or spend
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it and have less money.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Tough choice, for it is a tough choice.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Then each school is gonna get this twenty two million dollars.
And here's what's key. It applies to every athlete at
the school. So it is going to be up to
the school to decide what they want to spend money on.
Do you want to vote to vote fifteen million of
your dollars to football three to basketball.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Fans, us as fans.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
We will know what our school is prioritizing by how
much money they put into Huh. Mitch Barnhart will have
to decide how much money is Mark Stoop's gonna get
for players, how much money is Mark Pope gonna get?
How much money is Kenny Brook's gonna get. The schools
do not believe that Title nine will require them to
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pay men and women the same amount of money. They
will still have to give men and women the same
amount of scholarships, but they will not have to pay
them the same amount of money. I won't go into
the complicated reason. I think the schools are probably right
about that. Why you'd have to know the history of
Title nine. Let's just assume they're right about it. But
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just think about what Mitch Barnhardt or any athletic director
is gonna have to do when when their basketball coach
comes and says I need seven million, their football coach
comes and says I need twelve million. But here's another
thing that I didn't think about. Because this money is
going to be paid by a university, we will all
know what every kid is paid because it will be
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public record now. So just like we know what every
player make or coach makes. Now we will know what
every player makes. And I want you to think about
what happens when you when a school pays five percent
of its school wide salary cap to a player who's
not performing.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Drew criticism is gonna change a little.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
What's that gonna be like? What's it gonna be like?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Remember when I said yesterday schools are gonna have to
choose which sport they like. What's it gonna be like
If Kentucky says we're gonna give a million dollars to
volleyball and we lose a basketball player because that money
went to the volleyball per what's our fan base gonna say?
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Then? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Now, here's what can happen and what will happen. Private
collectives will be able to spend more money than the
twenty two million dollars if they want, but it can
now be banned officially from being part of recruiting and
can get you on probation for it.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Now, we'll team.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Still do it, of course they will, but they can't
be as blatant about it.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
This will be back to the old days of rules.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
But if you sit and think about what that means
when we watch Kentucky play and player A is starting
over player B when player B is better, but we
know the money each of them are paid. It's gonna
be I don't It's going to be a massive, massive shift.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
And the other thing is schools are considering whether to
allow private equity involved. Also very complicated.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
But now there's a chance that an investor Mario Investments
could say to UK, I'll give you twenty million dollars
this year, but you have to give me five percent
of your profits. Is the public gonna like that? Is
the public gonna see Mario as a positive? Are they
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going to see him as a negative? Everyone will know
Mario gave the money because that will have to be
public record.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
There will be schools that will do that. It's almost
as I was talking to this person yesterday and they
were going all over all of the ramifications. I was thinking,
this is probably gonna end up better, but it's gonna
be a completely different thing, like a completely different thing,
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and schools will have to choose. That whole conversation we
had two years ago about basketball versus football schools, here's
a little secret.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Schools are gonna have to choose. They're gonna have to choose,
and they're gonna have to choose a right. Do you
want to care about baseball? Do you want to care?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
And I I think I don't know what's gonna happen,
to be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Drew, But I I'm a legal dork, so I probably
care about this more than most. But it will affect
all of us as fans in a way that I
don't think we realize it.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
We should all care about it because the way we've
consumed college sports has changed so much in the last
couple of years will look completely different in a couple
more years. I think what's gonna be interesting is what
you're saying about how you know a player's say salary,
and this used to be you know these are kids,
don't say that, don't say this if he's taking a
big chunk of your university's money and not playing well.
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People won't be able to help themselves in criticism of players.
No longer the kids the student athletes anymore. This is
a pro sport.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
And by the way, now when a school promises a
player money, they will have to do it. Like right now,
we've talked about how a lot of these kids do
not get the money they're told. I'll go so far
as to say I think eighty percent of these kids
don't get the.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Money they're told.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Well, that won't be true anymore because you're not gonna basically,
you're not gonna be able to do that anymore because
it'll be a state contract. These collectives that exist will
now basically merge into the school. The school will have
a collective and it's just gonna be very, very different.
And is it better probably in the long run, but
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these are gonna be a bumpy couple years.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
It's another reason to be glad win the SEC because
it sounds like these conference.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
As I was this guy talks. As I was listening
to this guy talk, here's what I thought. Everybody focuses
on what this will mean for Eastern and more Head.
I think those schools will be able to adjust. They'll
just work within their budgets. The schools that are gonna
be under a lot of pressure if you're not in
the SEC or Big ten and you want to compete
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with them, those schools are gonna have the hardest times.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Louisville and schools like Louisville.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
This probably affects them more than anyone, because Louisville's gonna
have to play Kentucky every year, making half as much
money and trying to build a roster to do it.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
How do they do that? That's gonna be hard.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
It's more than likely. I'm guessing like a school like
Kansas that wants to be ultra competitive in basketball.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Perfect example, and then take a duke in basketball. All right,
So Duke might make this decision. You know what, most
of you schools are spending fifty percent on your money
on football. How about we spend fifty percent of our
money on basketball. Yeah, and just kind of go eh whatever.
In football it's duke football. All of a sudden, Duke
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basketball has three times as much money as anybody else does.
Maybe Kansas chooses to do that, all right, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Those are two schools that could do it, not a
lot of history in the sport.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
And then a school like Gonzaga or Villanova who either
doesn't have football or it's not major football, might just
decide it a basketball and it all on basketball. There's
gonna be so many different ways to do it. And
whichever here's what I think, is Osco gonna whichever school's
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the smartest is gonna win.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
You better hire smart people. The days of hiring Joe
Bob who used to play football to be your athletic director,
that's over. You better hire some dude that went to
Harvard that knows how to do analytics and statistics and
money in order to make your basketball and football programs good.
So who's next?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Fake Ralph Hacker?
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Fake? I'll tell you what make fake? Ralph Hacker? Hold,
We'll come back.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
He's been holding the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I mean making hold another one, all right, because that
that's not the exact response to.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
This I want.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
But so first time, long time, I was calling in
because I had an idea about our what we could
do instead of the painted rock that Tennessee does. Back
in the forties, and Ryan can probably help with the
names of everybody. Back in the forties, there was a
buzzer beater that was shot from pretty far back, maybe
about half court, and it was such a big game
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that the governor came in and nailed putting nail in
on the floor to mark the spot. So I thought,
maybe our thing to do what died into their He
put a nail in the floor, So he went and
drove nail into the floor of the court to mark
where that shot happened because it was such a big
deal or whatever. So if we kind of got our
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if we kind of staged a photo op where we
had a big recruits driving nail. I think it was
a nail like a railroad spike. I'm real big, And uh,
they could do that. Talk about like an Instagram photo
op or something like that. We could graze their names
on a big old railroad spike that they drive in.
And I thought that'd be a good idea.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
So you think, to the Tennessee painted rock, we get
a railroad spike in customize.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
It's better than a paint and rock.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Well, I mean, I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
First of all, I'm baffled that a painted rock has
that much persuasion on where a kid would go to school.
I don't know if it actually does. I don't know
if it's tongue in cheek, you know. Obviously, Lanier thought
it was cool enough to post on his Instagram story
with the caption woe.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
So I guess maybe it had some impact.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
And maybe, you know, that's the one thing about Kentucky
for a team in a school that has so much history,
in tradition. We don't have We almost lack tradition in
that sense, you know, like we don't we don't have
an object that the players can go out and and uh,
you know, paint or you know, customize to welcome into recruit.
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So I don't know, maybe you're onto something.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Good a suggestion that we've heard it from anybody else.
So thank you for the call. Yeah, well, we appreciate
it quickly. Ralph Hacker, go ahead, I'll try to put
you on. I'm gonna give you your thirty seconds.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Go ahead.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Oh shaty.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
This is the barber voice of the Wildcats. I was
calling in to wish Matt a safe in summer traveling
through Europe, and I wanted to push him, just safe travels,
and I hope that he has better weather. I did
when I was in France back in the summer of
twenty nineteen, and it was the hottest as Ralph Hacker
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has ever been. But I hope that Matt has a
safe summer vacation. Don't worry about things back here, because
I'm sure we got it.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
We got it, We're gonna be over up against it.
I hope that his vacation's a lot better than this show.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Today.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
We're going to take a break. We'll be right back KSR.
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Speaker 1 (17:51):
Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio present it by Stockton Mortgage.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Here's Matt Jones.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Well we're on for right now.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Keep your fingers crossed.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
We'll see.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
We are here at Chaos Bar and Girl. Thank thank
you to the patience of the folks who came here.
It's very nice of you all to come here on
the uh on the on the last day that we'd
be in.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Lexington, but unfortunately it hasn't been great. Tuck.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
You just hit a home run though, So now three
nothing cats here in the in the SEC tournament.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Tran Nicholson. He's a kid from Saint X.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Just so you know, if we go off again, Shannon
has a best of ready to Run, so that we
don't play another three and a half minutes of were
Wolves of London.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
You go to you go to Europe, and you don't
worry a bit about this show. It'll just well, like
the smooth oil train.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I'm not gonna act like this was the smoothest the
smoothest entrance into into going.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
But that's okay.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
If this happens Tuesday and I take a baseball bat
to it, what's next step?
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Is he doing? Like an office space?
Speaker 7 (18:53):
There?
Speaker 4 (18:53):
I mean there, and we just pound that thing until
it until it works. I don't know what are you
gonna do? Uh eight, I'm nine twenty two eighty seven.
Couple open lines. I'd love to talk to you. I
did want to. We'll talk about one fun thing. Did
you see the videos You saw the videos of all
the snakes at the PGA term? Yes, like there were
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twice snakes got on the tee or on the green
and two different people reached and picked them up and
walked away from right.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Would you do that?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I have a fear of snakes.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
I couldn't do it.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I would probably try to get somebody else. If not,
I'm looking for a shovel. I'm not picking it up
with my hand.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Would you pick up a snake and move it by
yourself to while ESPN is watching, so you look like
a hero to the country because you picked up a
snake and you moved it.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
No, I'm not really afraid of snakes. I've picked one
up before, but I'm not gonna go out of my
way to get one to be on TV.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
What's the scenario where you've picked up snakes before? Uh?
Speaker 6 (19:52):
We had one in college. Uh, but it I haven't
had the head of it, like all the way in
my mouth too. We'd mess around with them a fun
little snakes.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
What what you did?
Speaker 8 (20:01):
What?
Speaker 6 (20:02):
Yeah? I think his name is Myrta.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
But why would you put the head of the snake
in your mouth?
Speaker 6 (20:07):
And off? Had had a few cocktails at that point
night probably was a there might have been some money
on the table, just goofing off. Yeah, just you and
the I don't think the snake still here, but we're
all still here. You and the boys just put snakes
in your mouth. I will say I have a current
issue right now. I'm meant to bring this up. My
next door neighbor posted on our Facebook like neighbor Facebook
group a gigantic snake that he found in his yard,
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which is next to my yard. I mean it's a
big guy, and he I thought.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Yes, is it poisonous?
Speaker 6 (20:36):
This thing's big though, And I'm I'm barefoot in my
yard a lot. I am a little uneasy when I'm
walking around these days, So even though I'm not afraid.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
We don't have so we have really poisonous snakes in Lexington.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
I know there are some like are there.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Like there's copperheads.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Copperheads in Lexington in the little ponds and lakes and things.
Here's telling me there's.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Copper heads in the city of I think I know
they're out in the Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Yeah, this is what was found in the yard next
to me. Would that intimidate you a little bit?
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Yeah, so that's running around my neighborhood.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Well you say, yes, we say go for a hike.
There's nowhere to hike in Lexi.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
There's no parks.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Well, I mean there are parks, but there's copperheads. Tell
me there's copperheads in parks, Like.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, I would guarantee that they're everywhere.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
There ain't there native to Kentucky for sure?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Well for sure, like in the mountains and stuff that
you're saying even here. Oh yeah, so if I'm walking
down the street, I could see a coppy.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
They're not gonna get an uber.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I mean, goa be right there.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Instance, it wasn't a copperhead, but I mean snakes are everywhere.
I went for a walk in a park a couple
of weeks ago and there's huge snake as like, why
as the road was right in front of me, I
didn't touch that thing.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I just let let it go on its own time.
I completely stopped.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
I was prassed at Valhalla that these dudes would just
reach up and grab it. And it was like it
was not people that worked at Valhalla, it was like
just regular.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Some dude from Shelbyville is one of them, regular dudes
from Shelbyville doing it? And I was, I'll be honest
with you, quite impressed with that. Who's up next?
Speaker 7 (22:13):
J J?
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Craig Craig by the way, is that Craig Greenberg is
on the Golf Channel? Can we get that on the
on the TV? I'd like to see that go ahead?
Speaker 8 (22:24):
Yeah, what's up? Man?
Speaker 7 (22:25):
I want to get with your safe trip and happy
but you have fun over there heron.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Thank you, sir, Drew.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
I was, I was.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
I was the one that tweeted you yesterday about the
L s U game.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I'm glad you want.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I'm sad we got our win.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
We needed to win more than.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Do so I'm glad you got one runs and I'm
glad we got the win. So sorry, I wanted both
wins with congratulations.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
That's all, good man, Matt, I was did you hear
about the kid suing the coach from Florida?
Speaker 5 (22:54):
I did.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah, I can't sue the coach for not giving him
the amount of his n I l D. I think
that will continue to happen, at least until this new
system that we talked about UH gets into place.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Yeah, because I was wondering that it canna be the
nor them now and intend the SEC is gonna be interesting.
The big team can be powerful, but that might be
the norm, you think, Yeah, I mean, I appreciate the call.
I mean the reality.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Okay, So here's a piece of law that people don't
always realize. You can have a contract without it being
written down. They're verbal contracts. So like if I if
I were to say to you, sir, like I'll take
the guy right here. If I were to say to you,
I will give you five hundred dollars to mow my
grass right and you say, okay, I will mow your grass.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
We have a contract at that point right now. It's
gonna be hard for you to prove it.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
That's why you always want to write something down, because
there's a difference between having a contract and proving you
have a contract. So if this guy was promised X
amount of money and he didn't get it, technically he
had a contract and they owe it to it. But
he's gonna have to be able to prove that they
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had that agreement. And if I've offered you five hundred
dollars to mow my grass and we didn't write it down,
and the only two people were you and I, and
you said I did and I say I didn't, you're
gonna not be able to prove it. But if you
had gone out and mowed my lawn, you'd actually have
some proof because the judge would go, why in the
world would he mow his lawn?
Speaker 5 (24:31):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Yeah, Well, so this dude came to Florida and so
he's gonna have to prove somehow that that amount of
money was offered to him. I don't know what proof
he has, but the idea that a contract could have
existed without it being written down, that can't happen.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Ryan, It's just you got to prove it, and that's hard.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I think this is the first incident where this is
going to happen A lot. I think some kids will
probably promised money, maybe didn't get all that they would promise,
start suing the universities or coaches.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Yeah, I'm just interested to see if is there any
way maybe not with how things change so much. If
one of these NIL lawsuits, could they get into investigating
the football program at Florida? And that leads to other
things like how do they even look into the NIL
stuff here without uncovering more they could possibly be doing so.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
According to Mayor Greenberg in Louisville, there is a fixed
camera video inside the police there's a fixed camera video
from a pole outside of the on the street, and
there is a dash cam on the on the police car.
But they do not believe that there's a camera that
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captures the initial interaction.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Between Scheffler and the police department.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
So the sixty four thousand dollars question of the interact,
the first interaction that spawned this, it doesn't look like
there will be a camera about that.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
First I heard there's dashboard camera. I didn't know that
was even out there.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
But a dashboard camera though in the police car after
it wouldn't be a dashboard camera in Scottie Sheffer's car.
It would be in the police car, so that probably
would not be very helpful.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
To the case.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
At it.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
You have to get really lucky that it was on
the right spot. Yeah, So so it looks like it'll
just be kind of what we just talked about. It'll
be one words, one person's word over another.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Af I'm nine two eight zero twenty two eighty seven,
One person writes, Matt, do you think Mark Pope by
the time you get back will have commitments for next
year's class? So the guys in the twenty twenty five class. True,
you follow that a little more closely than I do.
Do you think that'll happen by the time you're back?
I'll say no, but not too far away from one.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
You know he's putting the pressure on Malachymarino up a
great crossing and Jasper Johnson here in town. That might
be a good way to get that class started by
both those guys.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Two guys from Kentucky name to the under seventeen team
USA Team?
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Yeah, which is Has that ever happened before? Do you
think there's ever been two two Kentucky players named to.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
That not to the USA team?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
No?
Speaker 6 (27:16):
No, I think I think Scotty Hopson might have played
for it. Scotty, I don't even know who else would
be on that. It's just the only someone recently I
could think that even played for it.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Yeah, so that's uh, that's a great honor. Do you
think he gets those two guys? I had a high
school assistant coach I know. Tell me he thinks he
ends up with certainly Jasper Johnson and maybe Malachi as well.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
If I was betting, I'd say yes, the odds are
probably in our favor to get both of them right now.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Yeah, I hope so too. I love the Perry Noah
connection into just keeping the homegrown talent coming. That would
be great to start Pope's career in a second season.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Dude, I agree with this texter who goes, why are
they not spending more time talking about Drew Franklin putting
a snake in his mouth?
Speaker 5 (27:59):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
You said that though, Like you said that, like you
did a keg stand like that was normally. I understand
that that's not the same thing. Putting a snake in
your mouth is a much more bizarre thing.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
I think there's photo epens of it. Uh, you know,
might have might have the next day been like, no,
I didn't and then oh, yeah, there's the video. Yeah,
I guess we did do that.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Do you know anybody else? What do you mean just
goofing off? That's not a thing, guys.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Just so. The snake lived in the basement, and occasionally
I won't say his name, but Corey would be like, hey,
you can't find a snake, and we'd all just have
to keep our feet up on the couch because we
weren't sure it'd be It was just one of the boys.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Okay, all of those things, Mario, just make sure I'm
not going crazy. Like, all of those things make sense
to me. They have a snake. There are people that
have snakes. They're boys hanging out. They were drinking. I
was around Drew in that era. I can buy that
we had a good time.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
I might have gone in for a little good night
smooch with the snake, telling a good night, tucking it in,
and then and then what then, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
One thing led to another. I don't know it happened.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
It's a big deal with how much of the head
did you put inside your head? You put the whole
head in your mouth.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
It lived with us.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
It was fine.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
It would you know, we could leave it on our
arm for an hour to time. It would just rest.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
It was one of us.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
It was everything was fine.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Everything.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
I wouldn't go out and do it with it.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
One in the wild. Oh, so it was like a snake,
you knew. So it wasn't.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Six months. We had six months of building this relationship.
And I mean, I'm sure I fed it at one point.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
If you walk snake hang on, is that how you
would feed it?
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Just I don't know.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
It wasn't my snake. It was my roommate snake. It
just we all felt very comfortable with it. You know,
I've known you a long time. That's one of the
strangest things I ever heard. One time thing I wouldn't
even gonna say it on the radio. Now I feel
like it's gonna be I have to live with this. No, No,
you are the guy that put a snake in Have
you seen road Trip with Tom Green?
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I have.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
It's kind of kind of like that.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Yeah, you know, I just got a little pet snake.
I feed it occasionally.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Well, he put the mouse in his mouth, right, It
wasn't the snake. I think Tom Green had the mouse.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
I didn't have a mouse.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Wow, that that's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Oh well, let me tell you what else we did
in college.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Well, maybe you can do that while I'm gone.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven,
couple open lines, give us a shout. Kentucky leads three
to nothing going into the bottom of the fifth. They're
playing really well. Knock on wood, Let's see if they
can hold on. We'll take a break.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Be right back. This is k S.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Welcome back Tucky Sports Radio. Here Kentucky hit a home
run during the break. Now four nothing in the bottom
of the fifth against Arkansas and a chance to knock
Arkansas out of the turnament. Here's why this would also
be a big deal for Kentucky right now. If the
NCAA Tournament were to start today, they probably would be
the number two seed in the tournament. I think if
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they lost today, the team most likely to pass them
is Arkansas. So maybe by beating Arkansas you ensure they
don't pass you any overall seeds and drew you might
be able to lock in that number two overall seed
in the tournament.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
You agree with that.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
I don't know where they're ranked in all the seeding,
but I know in the RPI Kentucky's four, Arkansas's three,
So we didn't think you could do a whole lot
of resume building. But you beat Arkansas in the second
day of the SEC tournament, that will help.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
D one Baseball, which has kind of been historically the
most accurate, went into this tournament as Kentucky as the
number one overall seed with Tennessee to Arkansas three. But
Tennessee and Arkansas both lost in the first round as well.
And then if you beat Arkansas, who knows, maybe you
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even have a shot at the number one overall seed.
If Tennessee were to lose tonight or something, tenn season
one loss from going home today.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
It looks like if they win this one, they play
the loser of LSU in South Carolina tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Yeah, they could play LSU again.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Could play LSU again, but they've already thrown They threw
their really good guy yesterday, so like you wouldn't have
to necessarily play they're really good pitch. First, you need
to win this one. One thing about Kentucky games we've
seen over the years, over this year, they're never over
for nothing for either team. They are, They're never over.
We'll keep you, keep you up to date on it.
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If I'm nine to two eight zero, twenty two eighty seven,
one person rides Matt. I see your your frustration on
Twitter and on the show yesterday about Antonio Reeves not
being drafted. I'll make you a prediction he's not playing
in the league three years from now. I love him,
but he can't play enough defense. I don't think he
stays in the NBA. I'll take that bet. I think
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he I mean, I'm all for projections, but let's be real.
Who have we had at Kentucky in the last twenty
five years? Who could ball? I mean really ball eighteen
points plus a game. Who's not made the NBA?
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Nobody?
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Do we know anybody? The only one might be Oscar?
First of all, Oscar's on a roster. But Oscar couldn't shoot.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
And I feel like I.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Wish Deeron Lamb would have last longer. But even he
had a couple of years in the league.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Yeah, I just see this.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
I don't see the scenario where you put that guy
on the court and he's not gonna make shots. He's
I bring these numbers up a lot, but like think
about this stat. He scored double digits for US in
every game but one. You know any players in UK
history have done that?
Speaker 6 (33:43):
Three?
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Wow, there's only three players in the UK history you've
had an entire season where they never scored less than
ten points in a game. Dan Issel, Jamal Mashburn And
I want to say Jody Meeks had a year like
that and that's it.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
I feel like reason we will those guys and maybe
people still don't believe a nym. He will go to
the G League average twenty twenty five a game and
then a team will like give him a shot and
he'll make it.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Do you think we will Like in ten years when
you're ranking cal Perry players, will people even put him
in the top twenty.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
I think he'll be forgotten because his two postseason teams.
Really but if you were rand the ways we associate
the memories was what they did in the end.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
All right, let's do a ranking for a second. Would
you rank him ahead of Robin Reid?
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Oh for what they did cour yes? Yes, yes, for
college yes.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
No.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
For the NBA no, But if you're ranking what they
did in college, he's definitely ahead of them. He's not
ahead of Oscar. Okay, but let's just keep going back years.
Is he ahead of anybody on the uh?
Speaker 8 (34:53):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Is he ahead of everybody on the team? Did we
score again? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Scored one, score two six nothing Kentucky? All right, okay,
so is he a head? He's ahead of everybody on
the COVID team?
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Right?
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Yeah, all right?
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Now go to the year before that, Maxy Hagen's quickly?
Is he ahead of those guys?
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Quickly?
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Was the SEC player of the year. That's a close one.
I could hear both arguments there. Okay, let's just for
sake of argument, let's put quickly. I would even lean
Reeves though, I think might certainly head of Hagens. Yes,
probably certainly ahead of Maxie. Go to the year before
Tyler hero PJ. Washington, Nick Richards ahead of that group
(35:38):
for what they did.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
My point is, I think if you're talking about who
did more at Kentucky, you're gonna have a hard time
putting eight or ten guys.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Ahead of me. Yeah, And yet I just don't think
he'll be remembered like that. Unfortunately.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
I think as time goes on, we just those other
guys were more what you call a fan favorite that
came in with more excitement than or higher expectations, maybe
a little more personality. I just just think over time
and it's not fair to him because he's the leading
score of the cal Era. I think he'll just slowly
drop a little farther and farther down that list.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
I mean, if I'm ranking the best players at Kentucky
this season, Antonio Reeves is number one, Reed Shepherd is
number two, and Rob is probably number three.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
But I think most fans that are not like their
natural instinct would not be to put it like that,
absolutely flip it.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
But that's what it should be. Huh right, yeah, just
so you can do it. Their production, their numbers on
the court. Antonio Reeves had one of the best season
in the cal Era.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
That's exactly right. Hey, thank all of you very much
for coming.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
You got to see an Absolutely you got to see
KSR and it's the most raw and uh never know
what's gonna happen. We will tomorrow be in Somersett, Don Franklin, Nissan.
Hopefully the tech will work better. We edited a lot
of the bad stuff out of the podcast, so you
only got to hear it. If it's live, we'll see
you later. This has been in Kentucky Sports Radio.
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