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Speaker 4 (01:06):
It is our number two here on Kentucky Sports Radio.
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a lot of stuff going out around the world of sports.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Get the aj Debonsa. Apparently his NIL.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Deal drew between five and six million dollars a year.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
To go to BYU. That's uh. I think that's a
lot of money, don't you Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:43):
The money has been the story around him for a
while now. He he's one of those kind of generational
talents we don't see come through the high school ranks
very often.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
His number was reported very early, is very high, and
BYU is quick to get in the conversation say they'll
pay it. So, I mean their coach is from the
NBA coach Kevin Durant a little bit. Those are the
that's how he ended up in Utah. I guess yeah. Still,
it's a lot of money, right, Don't you think that's
a lot of money? Absolutely?
Speaker 7 (02:09):
I guess, you know, the Pope probably mad he was
at b YU. Where was his money when I was
at b YU. He leaves and they get all this nil.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
But I know what, I'm fine with it today. Got
us here him.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
If he'd had all the nil money, maybe so may
he may not have he may not have come here.
Speaker 8 (02:25):
Right, what's the what's the minimum contract in the NBA
at the moment, because he's he's going to be in
and what two or three times some of the players
in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
All I think you wouldn't get five or six million
dollars unless you were top five to six pick.
Speaker 8 (02:38):
I saw that because the other day when Michigan signed
that quarterback for it was supposedly ten million dollars or something.
They had all the like graphic of people like quarterbacks
in the NFL that weren't even making ten million dollars.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
It's it's crazy.
Speaker 9 (02:51):
I'm just glad he's out there.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
I mean, he is going to be very good and
barring yeah, I mean Alabama, Kansas and Carolina three teams
will likely play over the course of well, I guess
he's a one and done. But I mean, at least
he stays out West and away from us. All right,
let's talk about UK football for a second. Nineteen players
have entered the transfer portal. That's a lot. It's the
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third most of any team in the country. It's looking
like that'll be. If that's not it, that'll be almost it.
Here's the way.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I'm gonna just kind of big picture look at it,
because I think a lot of people can get overwhelmed
this time of year, especially in football, as to what's
going on and who's what. I think if you ask
the UK coaches and you put him on a lie
detector and said who would you who did you lose
that you wanted to keep? I think there's no doubt
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they wanted to keep Dane Key. I think they were
disappointed that Dane left. I think I can say with
some confidence they were a little surprised that he decided
to transfer and not go to the draft.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
So I think that is a disappointment. There are some.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
People who would like to have seen Keishawn Silver stay,
But then there's other people who are like, you know what,
production wasn't great. We can do the same and cost
less money because he's gonna go for a lot of
money in the portal and I think they were like,
you know what, we can replace that and it'll be
a lot cheaper.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
But those are two.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Guys that I think if you asked him, they'd have
said would have been nice to have. I think of
what I've seen the other sixteen or seventeen that went,
I don't think they're gonna cry necessarily about any of them.
There was a couple guys making a significant amount of
money chip traying them. Anthony Brown Stevens we talked about.
I don't think people realize how much of money he
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was getting in the portal. Berry and Brown. I think
some of those guys, I don't think they look at
as a as a big loss. Now they also have
to knock it out of the park in the portal themselves.
The problem is a lot a lot of the guys
on good teams are not gonna be in the portal
till after their bowl game, or if they're in the playoffs,
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until after the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
So a lot of the guys you're.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Hearing associated with now are on teams that were either
not very good or mid major teams. I think there's
one guy Kentucky's almost certainly to get the linebacker from
Marshall and I think he'll play here next year and
be pretty good, but it's gonna be a wild circus.
I expect Kentucky to take fifteen guys, ten to fifteen
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guys in the portal, so Ryan, I mean, this is
gonna be a long process, and the reality is we're
not gonna really know if this team is very good.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Maybe until they play next year.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
There's also the quarterback position with Gavin wims At going,
Kentucky's gonna go get somebody in the portal. I mean,
they just are and are they gonna get somebody to
try to start?
Speaker 5 (05:50):
I don't know what do you think.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
It?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
It's things when Luci these guys are transfer portal.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
Absolutely, I was kind of happy they were able to
keep Cutter, will Cox, Patterson, you know, some of the
younger players, Willie Rodriguez. You know, you gotta re recruit
those guys as well as going to recruit players coming
in again.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
For Macklin, they got him back. That was a surprise
for me.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Actually, yeah, I think that was a big surprise.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I think they got Macklin because barry On and Dane
left and I think Macklin now thinks probably Drew he'll
be the number one guy next year.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
He's the top guy now. I mean, everybody knows they
needed a culture change. They needed to overhaul the roster.
You had to see twenty something guys go just to
make room to go to the portal.
Speaker 9 (06:32):
They don't.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
They didn't have that many open spots with and the
season ended because the scholarships didn't go up like they
thought it might have. They have the signing class that
they just added last Wednesday. They needed nineteen people to
go and maybe even a few more so they can
go shopping for immediate needs.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
As far as coaching, I think you will unless somebody
comes and steals a guy. I don't think you're gonna
see another change. I think personally, there should have been
a couple changes. Doesn't look like that's gonna happen. It's
sort I mean, there they're run. I mean, here's the deal.
Mark Stoops is putting his entire legacy at Kentucky on
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the line.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Next year. He can't have another bad year.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
If he has another bad year, if you're Mitch Barnhardt,
there comes a point if he has another.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Bad year, you can't do it again. As I've talked about.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Many times, the future of college football starts the next year,
and you can't go into it with a coach that's
coming off back to back three or four win season.
He's putting his whole legacy on the line for next year.
He's all in and it'll be up to him to
see if he can make a better team with a
tougher schedule.
Speaker 8 (07:40):
In my opinion, yeah, I'm not completely against just having
some consistency in the coordinated positions and the coaching positions.
I think after a while, you know, you can't just
keep turning guys over and starting afresh. It's good to
have some consistency and maybe we see some improvement. Obviously,
we needed to get rid of a bunch of players
because we went for and eight. The other thing that
I would say for people that uh, you know, following
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and tracking it, don't be disappointed if we go and
get a player from Western Kentucky or Murray State or
well maybe Murray State might be disappointed just somewhere else,
because it doesn't really work. When we've seen when you
go get Florida's back up, Tennessee's back up, because they're
getting rid of them for a reason, if they have
any value they would keep them. I think we kind
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of do need to go to those lower levels and
get the stars in those places.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
It's an interesting point you made. I mean that.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I think we've kind of all taken the view of, yeah,
let's go get Ohio State's I mean I was like this,
Ohio State's back up, Georgia's backup.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
It hasn't really worked, to be honest.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Where we've done well was we took an old miss starter,
remember the linebacker. We took a Mississippi State starter, we took, yeah,
a Vandy starter. I kind of wonder if that's the
way to go now, is actually go get guys that
have performed, maybe not at this level and just say, okay,
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let's do that here, rather than say, well, he didn't
play at Ohio State, so maybe it'll work out here.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
I think there's some validity into that argument, to be honest.
You know, Zion Childrens guy that they brought in, and
Macklin was a starter at North Texas and I think
he still could be a really really good player here,
just didn't get the target.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Tell this all season.
Speaker 8 (09:22):
I mean, there's no better example than they auhead basketball
coach right now. I know he's not a player, but
we when it first started unpopular, maybe people like, how
can this guy do it? We should have gone and
got a big name that's worked out pretty well.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I think his players. I mean, we look at our
roster right now. I mean, with the exception of Jackson Robinson,
who was kind of well known at a kind of
good school in BYU, we took a bunch of dudes
that none of y'all had seen play, right, and it's
it's kind of worked out.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Yeah, And there's it's different case by case, but just
generally speaking, maybe these guys coming from North Texas that
are taking a step up, they have a hunger where
some of these guys who've taken for Tennessee Florida, they're
kind of double dipping on the portal a little bit.
They already got a big bag once they go to
the portal trying to get that again. I just wonder
if the motivation is the same for each guy. Where
you've got a kid still climbing and making the most
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out of his career, where another one's just bouncing around
and getting money.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
I will say.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Some things that I had a long conversation on Friday
where I got a sense of kind of where things
are behind the scenes. I think they feel like they
have the money to compete in the portal this year.
I'm not sure what changed, to be honest with you
about that. I'm not sure how all of a sudden
that has become something that's not a worry. But I
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was told definitively, we've got the resources to go get guys.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
That's good. I think there was.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I think the staff has finally sort of come to
the realization that they let the culture slip, and they're
i think determined to fix it. Whether it work or not,
I don't know, but I finally got a I finally
felt like I got a realization from them, Yeah, we
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let this thing slip.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I have invited uh Mark Stoops to come on the show.
He says he will. I think he has to have
like some sort of medical issue, like not a serious one,
but a medical procedure done this week and so that
I think it'll be after that. But he I've you know,
I sort of said, I think Mark should come on
and I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna be I'm gonna
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ask the hard questions, and he said he would do that.
I think that's good. And now I mean, like it's
up to him. He's gonna have to win the fan
base back. I think the fan base he's lost a
lot of them. We'll see what happens now.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
It's honestly, it's good as a as a fan sitting
here here, you say that that they understand that maybe
they did have some some slippage in the culture and
the way they ran the program, and you know, some
self reflection sometimes the best, if they're able to.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
We may look at the MINSI going and getting food
at the concession stand as a big moment.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
I mean we may look at that as a.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I mean, you can't argue that right, there's like there's
no arguing around. Well, you know, when you hear a
story behind the scenes, Drew, somebody can just go, ah,
that's not exactly true. We have a video of a
player in a uniform going and getting food during the game.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Ain't much you can argue about that, not.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
At all, And that went very, very very viral. Unfortunately
for Stoops though. I mean a good interview would help.
But overall, I don't know what he can do to
win it back till they play football. I agree, because
we all thought they had a great portal class last year.
Now a chip that was injury Brock got banged up,
but it just didn't turn out to be what anyone
thought it was on paper. So even if they go
out and get some big names, is anyone gonna be
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that enthusiastic until they actually see what.
Speaker 8 (12:53):
Two things? Well, First, I've loved that they've gone, hey,
we need to go out and actually assess these guys
character before we bring them in rather than just going
most talented. Second thing, I hadn't heard about that, not
so mock best of luck with the head transplant surgery
going on in Turkey. It's it'll be a long flight
to Turkey, but I hope it goes well.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
That was Max, Yeah, that was Max Duffy, And I
don't think that's the procedure. And people will think that's question. Well,
people will think you're being serious about that we go ahead.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
Were you surprised that they are not going to make
coaching changes?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
I mean, I don't know about surprise. I think it's
a mistake. I mean, I think you know, I think
it's a hard sell. I don't know how you look
at these fans and say we're running it back everybody ready,
you know, I think that's hard, but like it's their
sell to make, not mine. You know, there is a
sense I remember I said this about cal there's a
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sense where if you're gonna go down, you should go
down with the dudes you believe. But then if you
go down, it's on you. Like if they don't perform,
guess what you will pay the price. And so we'll
find out next year. I will say this, I'm fine
with stupents coming back. I think it was the only
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choice you can have. I get a sense that there's
some renewed energy from me. That's good, that's good to hear.
But if we have another year like last next year,
if we have another year next year like we had
last year, we're gonna have to make a change because
the twenty twenty five twenty twenty six offseason, so after
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next year, college sports as we know it will change,
and if we're not in a position to amp that up,
we gotta go in a different direction or else we'll
get behind and we might never come back.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
And so.
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back to basketball as well. This is KSR, welcome back.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Take you sports radio. What person of rights on text machine? Matt?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
We're thinking about giving up our tickets next year? Do
you think we should? Well? I mean that's up to you.
I don't know what the money means to you and
your family, but assuming you can afford it financially, I
would do it.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
You'll wish you did.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
I mean, we got Texas coming in, we got Tennessee
coming in, we got Florida coming in, got Old Miss
coming in.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
That's a good schedule.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
I would say keep them, but then again, I don't
know what these tickets mean to your family financially, so
that might be different.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
During the Louisville game, I went out in halftime when
everybody was leaving, I was interviewing them, and a lot
of season ticket holders were livid with how things have gone.
But then they added the caveat I've had these tickets
for thirty years. I can't just split up with them.
My dad had them, my grandfa you know, things like that.
So there's a lot of tradition involved for Kentucky football fans.
Speaker 8 (16:38):
Could I potentially throw out one bit of advice for
the Kentucky football stoff?
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Is that? Is that fine if you won, if you
would like to.
Speaker 8 (16:44):
Yeah, there's a witchcraft place that it has an amazing
track record. It doesn't want one to buy the candle,
buy the soap.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
It touched Ryan's head.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Can I tell you another great Ryan moment on the trip?
You know, we bought tooth it. We bought a candle,
and we bought incense. We were going to save the
incense for a future thing we needed to cast away.
Ryan kept it in his coat pocket, which was nice
because we didn't know when we were going to use it.
But we were about to go out to eat or
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something like that. We're gonna walk to lunch, and Ryan
had it in his pocket and he said, I don't
want to take this, as if he would be arrested
for having incense on him. And I said, well, hey,
just set it right there on the step and we'll
get it when we come back. And for reasons that
only Ryan Lemon knows, he took the incense and just
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put it in a pool of.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Water to where.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Consistent to where it will never work ever, and so
I'll just know it was a stupid thing to buy.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
But it was fifteen dollars.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
You just took fifteen dollars a mind and just threw
it away, So thank you.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Yeah, it was a flower bed and the if water
was still. I didn't realize it was water until I
touched it, and then it was too late when I
put it in there.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
So he saw the water shining, but as with everything,
he doesn't believe what it is until he touches it.
And at that point, he had already thrown the incense
into the.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Wall, so that he knew what he was doing first
of all. So that means only half the curse has
been broken.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Yeah, I think we got the basketball case.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
She said, you got to do both of them.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
So yeah, I think Mark stoops.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
You know, maybe go to the witchcraft place there in
Denver and see what you could do.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Who's up next? Let's go to don don How are
you done?
Speaker 10 (18:36):
Hey, I'm fine, guys. Appreciate you taking the call.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
And happy holidays, Mary Christmas, Happy holidays to you.
Speaker 11 (18:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (18:44):
I was just curious about the getting back to the
basketball schedule again. Did Coach Pope have any input on
this year's.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Hey? None.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
He might have helped it, yeah, I don't think the
schedule would have been done there.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
He might have helped with one.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Or two of the stinky team games, but the major
games were already situated, and honestly, most of the major
games for next year are already situated too. I think
you'll start, excuse me to see Pope's imprint on the
schedule the year after that.
Speaker 10 (19:18):
Copy of that. Appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
I think you'll see like, for instance, excuse me. I
think you'll see Pope games. We still got to finish
the Gonzaga series. We start Indiana, you'll see Pope games
after that.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
And then you know he's already talked about maybe trying
to look at getting out of the CBS Classic. I
think that'd be one thing to do where maybe he
can after next year and they can just not renew it. Yeah,
and maybe I look for him to pick up a
home and home series with a power team.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I mean next year, I believe Drew will play uc LA.
We were talking about this. I think our schedule next
year is Champions Classic versus is it Kansas or Michigan State.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Next year in the Champions Classic would be Michigan State.
I don't remember who we played last year. We played Duke.
Last year, we played no We played Kansas year before
because we played Hunter Dickinson, right.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Right, So that's right.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
So we will play Michigan State and the Champions Classic
we play UCLA in Vegas. So I think we played
Vegas next year, and then we will play Gonzaga in Nashville,
and I think we play Indiana in rupp. I think
that's the four. Those are the four games, then Louisville
at Louisville, so that's five power games.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
If you throw in.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
The ACC SEC Challenge, I think that's six.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
We get a home game in that next year.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
So if you're looking at the schedule next year, you're
looking at Vegas against the UCLA, Gonzaga and Nashville Champions
Classic I believe is in New York Madison Square Garden,
and then you've got ACC Challenge here, LOUISVA on the road,
and then Indiana at home. The way, that's a heck
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of a schedule. That's a that's a great year. That's
we played five power games this year. That's six next year.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Pope had a lot of things that are already in place.
But one of the first things he did was schedule
that Western Kentucky game. So that's one I thinks, okay,
that's what I think we all know. That would have
been scheduled before anyway, uh because call didn't like those games.
But that is one thing Pope added to the schedule
that he was able to do.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
I also have heard that we will at some point
play byun say, I don't know, it may not be,
probably won't be next year, but I would venture to say,
when the Gonzaga series ends, you might see a uh
BYU game where we go to Salt Lake one year
and they come here.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Which the Saint John's game happened.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
It sounded like Patino thinks that won't happen. And again,
I think the reason is I think we can't play
Saint John's because of the Indiana series in you know,
whe everybody wants a Marquee home game. This is why
I didn't want to add Indiana. It sort of locks
you in to playing Indiana like that can be your
only game because they really only have time on the
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schedule for one true home and home. And I think
we've chosen it for it to be Indiana, even though
that's not who I would have chosen.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
But I think that's what we're gonna.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Get now that it's here. Indiana better get better at basketball.
This can be a good rivalry if they will just
stop sucking. But if twenty five years, which is why State,
I'd be happy.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
That's why I didn't want to do them. I mean,
like I'd rather do one of these other teams. You know.
The good thing is the ACC challenge will help us
play Duke and Carolina some Kansas is in the Champions Classics,
so you get them. But I'd love to play a Yukon.
Right to go play a team like that or a villain. Oh,
I mean the fact in fact we're gonna get locked
in the Indiana. But I know for a lot of
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people it matters. It doesn't matter for me, Ryan, but
like for you, it does. So that's fine.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
That was the old head, old Head. That was the
game of the year for a long time. I like
this Gonzaga series that we've got going on right now.
You know we're playing a high profile team.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Yeah, I think that'll end after next year.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
But we are gonna play in Nashville in the regular
So when's last time we've had a regular season game.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Bruce Field. It's been probably a long time.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
That's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 9 (23:02):
So it's like a cowboy hat trip.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Oh, the Cowboy will definitely be on for that one.
Trying to figure out the first time to bring it out.
When did I get here?
Speaker 6 (23:10):
I'm waiting. I was a little disappointed it wasn't. I
was expected Abby to hand them to me when I
got home, but it hadn't delivered yet.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yeah, I mean I was ready to maybe wear it
for the Colgate game for.
Speaker 9 (23:17):
The show today, not we don't have it yet.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
We'll take a break, but come right back. It's KSR. TJ. Smith,
personal injury attorney called TJ.
Speaker 9 (23:26):
He'll make them pay.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
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Here's Matt Jones.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Here we go, cowboy baby a fine two eighty seven.
If he comes in, Colgate's kind of team, you do
it like it's he break out toothpaste, good academic school,
Donald Foyle. A lot of reasons to break break it
out for that one could be a cowboy head game.
I could use some Colgate. After that road trip, I
still haven't really gotten back to where I need to be.
Did anybody watch the Simpsons broadcast last night?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Watch a little bit of it?
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Gave it a chance.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
I watched a little bit like it.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Well, you know, I live in a cowboys household. I
had a big parlay going. I just needed the real broadcast.
I gave it a minute or two men the contractor store,
I would go to it and watch.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
I loved it.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I mean it was a couple of minutes behind the
real broadcast, so it was clear that like they would
know a big place coming, and then they would check
the Simpsons characters in.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
So if you if you watched when.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Mill House or when Bart or Homer came in, you
knew something big was about to happen. I mean, I
may be a child, but when Homer threw the touchdown,
I loved it.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Bart with a little out route to uh.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Ralph, to Ralph, who knew he could tap his toes
in bounds like that.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
I enjoyed that. Ralph was the big surprise for me.
Speaker 8 (24:42):
I don't think anyone saw that one coming. You know,
you could say Homer is a Ben Roethlisberger type and
Bob obviously has some illusionness about him.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
To Ralph, who would have thought.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
My favorite part was how they captured that stupid block
punt and the fumble. With all that chaos in the play,
they still managed to make it. You know, you could
follow the ball look like it With the Simpsons, I
enjoyed it.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
I thought it was a good little uh, good little
side thing.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
And I like the Simpsons.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
It's amazing to me that that show is still on
the air thirty seven years after it debuted.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
Right I after Jamar Chase touched out at the end,
I flipped over to see how they were gonna do it,
and with Lisa. Lisa was the one that ended up
being Jamar Chason' scorn getting the touchdown.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
And by the way, Lisa, if a lot of you
wrote noted the same problem I have with the sticks.
Did you hear Lisa say it's twenty twenty four and
we have all this technology, why do we still have
two dudes with a stick and a chain? I was like,
thank you, Lisa. I've been saying that for years. Why
do we still do it this way?
Speaker 8 (25:38):
I gotta get Lisa on the pregame postgame show for
Football now on.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
That'd be great.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
I don't know the Simpsons characters very well. Who was
the field goal kicker? I enjoyed watching that one too.
I mean when Aubrey kicked one for Dallas, I didn't
see it. Who can look at me?
Speaker 5 (25:53):
But I didn't.
Speaker 9 (25:53):
I don't know the character.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
I'd have to look it up. I don't know who's
up next? David, David, how are you? David?
Speaker 12 (26:00):
It was questioning a clown.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
First of all, it was crusty the clown.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
David k new, so shut up, Max. Go ahead, David.
Speaker 12 (26:09):
Yeah, Well, first of all I was. I was going
to ask you this about the game on center. When
did you first realize that there's a feeling that they
might come back. Did you feel about during the first half, because.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
I felt that when Andy Katz was talking my ear
off about politics, that was the moment I was like, Oh,
we're only down seven, We're only down five. And I
was like, if Andy will stop asking me about this,
I think we might actually come back and win. But
I have to tell you, in the first half, I
was I mean, I'll be honest, I thought we were
gonna be embarrassed. I mean, it felt like we were
I was watching two teams of different levels. But then
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in the second half, I think I think there was
when when they called time out. We had cut it
to like five or six and they called time out.
That was the first time I let myself believe, Hey,
wait a minute, uh maybe we'll maybe we'll come back.
Speaker 12 (26:57):
Yeah, I had this. I don't know why, but I
still have this feeling that we might if I said
it does, if we cut it to at least twelve
and the second half, we might have a chance. And
I have a question for all three of you guys.
It's that time of the year again, so I gotta
ask you, what are your favorite Christmas movies?
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Favorite Christmas movie?
Speaker 4 (27:17):
I appreciate the call we usually get this, Uh, yours
is like elf.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
Elf.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
It starts and ends with Elf.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Yeah, yours is usually Elf. That's your your kind of thing.
I'm partial to Christmas Vacation.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
I just enjoy the the whole vibe of it, and
it makes me laugh every year, so that's probably probably mine.
I like Bad Santa too, although that's more not Bad
Santa two, just Bad Santa as well.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
I think that one's really funny.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
Both the Bad Santa's are really good. Where I go
down in South Georgia, we it's not really Christmas movie
for sure, but we watch Lord of the Rings extended
versions just for a whole day. So that's not my.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Yeah, that's just a movie.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
There's no movie, including Forrest Gump, that I have seen
more than Christmas Vacation. There have been years where starting
December one, I'll watch it twenty five times. I'll turn
it on every single day. I can almost quote it
from start to finish.
Speaker 9 (28:12):
It is by far my favorite.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
I'm a big Christmas Vacation guy.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
One more I want to know because with David's question,
I appreciate the call David about believing at halftime. Maybe
this is why Mario was like being so optimistic to
me after the postgame show. I didn't realize until Sunday
that I'd become an object of debate on Facebook about
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my negativity about basketball. I had no idea why, and
part of it was Jack Pilgrim had written a post
on KSR the website, which again he's allowed to write.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
By the way, I don't run that website anymore.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I feel like after four years people would know that,
but they still whatever anyone posts people yell at me about.
But then my tweets at halftime, they were like, you're
being too negative, And all I was saying is that
we were stinking in the first half, which we were.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
We did, and I was like, what do you people want?
Speaker 4 (29:15):
And then that led to a long series of posts
I saw where people will say they were gonna boycott
KSR because we're too negative, while and also at the
same time saying they hadn't listened in eight years, And
I was like, well, first of all, you're already boycotting
it sounds like and secondly, how would you know if
you didn't listen.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
But we as a fan base, this is gonna be
my helpful hint.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
As a fan base, we gotta stop policing how other
people are fans like this. Stop this notion of you're
too negative, you're too positive, you're this, you're that. We
all want the team to win, right, and if we
want the team to win, some of us do it.
Like I said next to Mario in that game, Mario
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is universally positive.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
When we're down eighteen, he was like, we just need
a three here and it'll be fun. Right six and
we got it. We're in this, we got it.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
He hit me in the stomach like ten times, going
here we go, here we go, we got this. You well,
I don't know if any of you are relentlessly negative,
but I have a couple friends that are relentlessly negative,
Like we got no chance.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
I'm like, we're up twenty, we got no chance. They're
gonna come back.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
I kind of lean towards positivity, but like, you don't
have to say the whole game, we're awesome. This eighteen
point lead, it's just a fluke. It's fine, you know,
even though we've never come back from this deficit. In
the history of our program. Of course we're.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Gonna do it this time.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Like it's okay for people to have different opinions, this
idea of this group.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Think we had it last year with cal.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
This notion that you could not be critical of Cal
or you didn't love Kentucky.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Now you won't find one person to take up Cow.
Now we're doing the same thing.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
I will remind people of what Mark Pope said to
me in his office. He looked at me right in
the eye and he said, if we lose, I want
you to rip me he goes, cause the day you
stop ripping me, this is not Kentucky basketball. That was
his words. I'm sure he would say. He said that
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if Mark Pope feels like that, then you guys can
chill out. If people are being a little negative. And Ryan,
I don't even think I'm negative.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
I love this team. We all we all have eyes.
We saw what was going on in the first half.
It looked bad, looked like there was no coming back.
But I love that quote from Pope. You know it,
because that's that's what makes Kentucky basketball special because we
do care about you want to see what happens if
you stop Camper, go look at the Louisville fan base.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Louisville used to have the third or fourth best college
basketball fan base in the country. And Pat Kelsey can't
even get him to care. And he's trying, he's credit,
he's trying, and they just won't care.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
They've hit apathy. We can't ever get to that point.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
Max, No, we can't. I mean, and he is the
thing for the fans. Something about that. He's an emotional guy.
He's an emotional guy, and sometimes it's positive, sometimes negative
emotions what makes the show.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
He's trying to take it to the next level.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
You bring these emotions to the show, to bring.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
It to the show.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
I didn't go back and read your tweets during the
first half, but I assume most people weren't feeling great
in the first half, really live tweeting that this isn't
going well.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I mean, you could just choose, Yeah, you could just
choose not to tweet anything, which maybe that's the best
thing to do. I'll actually, why don't I go back
and I'm just gonna read you these are the tweets
from the first play. Okay, pace of play is exactly
what Kentucky Want's gonna be hard for you, K to
stop the zag offense.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Gotta finish the.
Speaker 9 (32:57):
Easy layouts, just a ton of lips.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
The center initiated dribbling from the top of the key
will be the death of me.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
This season.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Kentucky is getting absolutely torched defensively and man handled at
the rim.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
But they were, they were They called a technical for that.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Emotional, very emotional.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
When Gonzaga gets Kerr and Amari Williams in a pick
and roll, it's death for UK.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
A lot to talk about death, that's Nations, but it
was it sounds.
Speaker 9 (33:32):
Like you're single handling trying to tear down the program.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
I said, ike E k killed Kentucky's bigs last year
and rub and he's doing it again this year.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
He had eighteen points in the first half.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Had eighteen points in the first half, and then the
last one was just like Clemson, Gonzaga is extending their
defense beyond the three point line and dares UK to
beat them off the dribble. We just don't have guys
who can go by their man and make them pay.
By the way, I'll note in the postgame press conference,
Mark Pope said that exact same thing, and he said,
we countered that by doing backdoor cuts, which is exactly.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
What they did.
Speaker 9 (34:04):
So those are your negative tweets.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Those were the ones that apparently made people say that
I'm not a.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Fan of UK basketball. Wow.
Speaker 8 (34:11):
Then you go to Ryan's and it says uk' is
the greatest team ever. UK's the worst team ever, UK's
the greatest teamfl It's just inconsistent, inconsistent weight.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
Yes, couldn't get anything.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
I gotta work on that.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
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even your whole home? But like me, you don't even
own a screwdriver?
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Why did they add that?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Because it's true, it's true, Shannon.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
Did they just slipped that in do you have?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Well, if it's true, it applies to you.
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Speaker 6 (35:10):
I have a confession. They wanted some KSR jokes in
the copy, and I'm the one that.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
You added funny. You're the funny. Then I don't have
a screwdriver? Yep, three, you know I don't have.
Speaker 9 (35:22):
Three different versions of that read that all include a joke.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
First of all, how do you know I don't have
a screwdriver?
Speaker 2 (35:27):
We've been around you for twenty years.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Yeah, I have a screwed.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
There are two different screwdriver do you have?
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Well, there are two different kinds. There's a flat screwdriver
and a philip.
Speaker 9 (35:38):
I think the other version says something about your pictures
leaning up against can.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
That part's true.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
But I have Where is your screwdriver? I don't look.
I don't tell you. I don't want people coming in
my house looking for my screwdriver. I'm not going to
tell you exactly where it is. Sorry about that. We'll
take a break. We are back, but welcome back.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
This is the song that was singing. They were singing
at the Pendleton Organ choch we had. There was a
guy up there who got up and sang, who called
himself the sole penetrator. He was awful, real quick.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
The Pendleton Organ, Cadillac, Jack's Bar Max.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
How would you if you were to describe to people
Cadillac Jackson, Pendleton Organ, What would you say if you were.
Speaker 8 (36:24):
Planning a bachelor a bachelorette party in the next six
to twelve months. Yeah, you could go to Nashville, you
could go to New York, you could go to Bourbon Street.
Pendleton's the place to be.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I'll put it.
Speaker 8 (36:35):
The Nazis, whay, I can possibly put it. A lot
of inner beauty, a lot of beautiful people that were
really Yeah, just a lot of.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
No.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
I will tell you what you said, Hugh said, it
was the ugliest collective group of people you've ever seen
in one place.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
You could literally count the combined number of teeth on
the people in there. On one hand. There was a
lot going on. There was a hyena that.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Looked like a dog.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Buddy brought in a hyaena. There was a lady chuck
in drinks but then was on a oxygen mark. What
she like that?
Speaker 4 (37:05):
There's a woman that walked in with an oxygen machine,
had just walked in the door and said, give me
a double whizzy.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Salt Penetrator was singing these lungs out.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Mario challenged a seventy five year old woman in a
sweatsuit to a game of pool, and she turned him down.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
She basically didn't think he was good enough.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
She was there plain pool.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
She was seventy five years old, had on a sweatsuit
and had her own pool glove.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
You know that, you like she had her own pool glove.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
On a Friday night at nine o'clock in Oregon, the
sheriff turned up. A sheriff turned up. He brought seven
college age kids and him. Not sure what was happening there,
but he was. He was there the worst country, the
worst karaoke singer I've ever heard in my life, who
sang some of you may know the net song Paint
Me a Birmingham by Tracy Lawrence. He sang that he
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was a good shin and two seconds behind the beat,
right as he was.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
But Soul Penetrator came in and made good on the
whole situation.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
And then that guy saying this unbelievable. I have some
news here shit, and then I guess we have to
get Ryan to comment on it. News No this is
like just a scuttle book.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Rivals dot Com is reporting this is this is their
national recruiting right, Okay, okay, he writes. Dane Key led
Kentucky with forty seven receptions for seven and fifteen yards. Louisville, Nebraska, Georgia,
and South Carolina are the most involved in his recruitment.
Key is planning to visit Louisville early next week, as
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there continue to be rumors that Vince Marrow could join
the staff to Louisville as well. It's from the National
Rivals recruiting writer. I'm skeptical about the Vince Merrow part
of that, not saying it's impossible, but skeptical.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
But what about the day and Key part of that?
He wouldn't go to Louisville, would he?
Speaker 7 (38:54):
I honestly have no idea, because they were gonna set
up some visits. I think yesterday we were flying back.
So I'm not to anybody connected the Dante, Nicole, Dane, nobody,
So I have I have no clue.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Are you lying to us?
Speaker 2 (39:06):
No, I'm telling you the truth, because you.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Lied to us that one day.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
I said, you looked us right in our eyes. What
was the question to us, I don't remember, but you
didn't answer it truthfully.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I think you're answer.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
I would say, I'm not saying he won't go to Louisville,
but from my I won't speak for Ryan, I would
think Georgia is where I would see.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
I mean, like you look at that list.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Nebraska, his wide receivers coach is there, but I'm not
sure that relationship is as close as people just assume.
South Carolina is where he almost went last time, but
the guy that recruited him is not there anymore, right,
Ryan correct, So he's not there, So that I think
your people are throwing that in and may not know Georgia.
I mean, Dane has basically said he wants to play
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for a team that can win a title. Louisville's not
gonna win a title, so Georgia Drew seems to me
that would make the most sense.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
Yeah, in Georgia's receiver room hadn't been good recently by
their standards. I don't know what they have going into
next year, but I assume he has a great opportunity
if that's where he would he would pick.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (40:10):
We mentioned it's got the girlfriend Angel there. That would
seem to be a heavy favorite, just guessing with what
he has in front of him.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
I will say, though, if you were to drop up
on a sheet of paper and say, how what is
the worst that could happen for Mark Stoops in the
next week, dang key and Vince Merrill going to Louisville
would be pretty high on that list. That would be
That would be a backbreaker for a guy for a
way you're trying to turn this around.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
He was our best player this year.
Speaker 8 (40:35):
If he goes to Louisville of old Tames, I mean,
I'm not shedditia.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
That would be ten. That would be terrible and also
on a personal level, that would suck for this guy.
And I hope that doesn't happen. Who's up next, Chuck, Chuck?
Go ahead, Chuck.
Speaker 11 (40:49):
Man Hey, thanks for having me, Uh Chuck from Nebraska.
I was gonna drive two hours one way to see
you guys in Carney, but had I had work day
and it just didn't work out.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Sorry, Well we would have. We'd love to have had you.
But thank you for thinking about Man.
Speaker 11 (41:08):
You're talking My license plates say k N T U
C K Y. So you got a big thing here.
So uh number one UK is the best team ever.
I've been making some notes here. Number go ahead with
Luigi on the with Luigi logo on the toboggan. You
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got to explain that because most of UK fans everywhere
outside of Kentucky doesn't a toboggan is an eight foot
would sled with a curve at the top.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
Number Three.
Speaker 11 (41:40):
Apathetic about anything. Come on thirty years of Nebraska football.
We we got the APC thing. And then on Gonzaga
real quick. They shot well, but they just missed. They
could not rebound because they were overpowered by us on
the boards. They couldn't hit a free throw. And all
of that being said, UK did to shoot the three
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as well. Either if we had if we had hit
the three like we usually do here in the first
few games we've had, We're.
Speaker 5 (42:09):
I agree with all that. I appreciate the calling.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
They we did overpower them on the glass, which is
amazing because they overpowered us at the beginning of the game.
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Speaker 5 (42:20):
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Speaker 4 (42:23):
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our pick of the night. John Caliperry's Arkansas Razorbacks are
at home playing fourteenth rank Michigan's in the garden, but
it's in the garden. Who you got, Arkansas with the upset?
I kind of think Arkansas with the upset too. They're
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four and a half point underdog. Might be betting on cow.
Speaker 9 (42:47):
They play right after Tennessee and a doubleheader two.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Yeah, those are the games night. We'll see tomorrow. This
is