2025-01-24- KSR - Hour 1

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Speaker 3 (00:33):
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Speaker 3 (02:20):
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So big weekend. We've had a week without Kentucky basketball.
But that goes back to being over On Saturday. Kentucky

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play Vanderbilt two thirty. Sort of an odd start time,
but two thirty in Nashville, Ryan, I already know a
bunch of people going. But more more importantly, the this
could end up being, besides the Arkansas game, the most
expensive Kentucky ticket on the market this year. I guess
it's the small gym playing in Nashville, Western Kentucky on

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a Saturday, and he's been pretty good. They're kind of
on the bubble of the NCAA tournament right now. I'm
surprised by how hard it's gonna be getting in. But
I can tell it's hard because I have random people
sort of in the Nashville Are you going, hey, Matt,
Now thing's been What do you think about our cats?

Speaker 6 (03:41):
Got any tickets?

Speaker 7 (03:42):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (03:42):
What are you hearing about tickets Saturday? You know X's
that they reappeared in my life, like people want to
get into the game.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
Kentucky has always had great crowds, and they played Memorial
Gym just because although the Western Kentucky folks the fans,
they're closer. They get to go to watch and play.
But Yeah, it is amped up, and I think Drew
hit it yesterday. Because it's a Saturday afternoon in Nashville.
You can spend Friday night, go to the game, spend
Saturday nights, have a whole weekend there.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
I even with that, though, I mean I'm shocked, like
I I'll look here in a minute on the stub hub,
but like it's crazy, and I think that's going to
lead to an awesome atmosphere tomorrow. I mean, I don't
know what it'll be, maybe sixty forty Vandy, but we
will have a significant presence in there. I think it's
gonna be almost like I don't know, almost like an

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NCAA tournament game where the arena's kind of split and
you're in one place.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
You may see that tomorrow.

Speaker 7 (04:31):
Yeah, it's gonna be a great environment and not much
of a surprise. One of my friends are already there.
I was getting the where you're at? Are you here yet?
Last night? So I think a lot of UK fans
are gonna make the most of this and be very
excited for that game. But on the Vandy end, even
though they just lost that Alabama, the two games before
that were at home, both big wins that came down
to the final second. So the last two times Vandy's
been at home, they've beaten Tennessee at the very end

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in South Carolina at the very end. So they got
a little magic going there that I'm sure their fans
want to keep going.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
I know you're a fan of them, Shannon, but when
I've seen Vandy this year, with the exception of that
Alabama game, it's like every game is closed. They don't
really beat I mean, Tennessee's number one team in the country.
That game was closed and then they won. But then
they also played South Carolina, the worst team in the conference,
and that game was close, but they won. In the
non conference, they barely beat a couple stinky teams, but

(05:18):
then they did get one or two good wins. You've
watched them. What is Kentucky gonna play tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Vandy's gonna play very physical. They don't have a whole
lot of height, they don't have a whole lot of
great shooters. If they get into a shootout with Kentucky,
Kentucky's gonna win that every time. Vandy's gotta be physical,
get to the line and win the game with the
free throw line.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
So give me some of their players, tell me what
they what they like, because all the guys I knew
on that team are now gone. So who's there.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Jason Edwards is their leading scorer. He transferred in. It's
just like Kentucky, Mark Byington, their new coach brought into
all transfers.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
I would have never known his name, Mark.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Biden from James Madison.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
From James Madison.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Aj Hilgard is a guy who played four years at
Michigan State under Tom Izzo. He's another one of their
good players. And then they have kind of like their
version of Kobe Bray that comes off the bench. Tyler
Nichols a good three point shooter.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
So what do they do that can like? What is
their strength? You know a lot of these teams we've
played have been really good rebounding, etc. What is the Vandy.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Strength creating points off turnovers? Okay, they think average sixteen
turnovers that they create on defense per game. So if
they can get to that number, I think that that's
their advantage over Kentucky. Create turnovers and then score points
off of that.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah. I heard the announcer during the Alabama game, Drew
say that Vandy.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Likes to kind of have a tempo.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
This is not like the stackhouse Vandy teams that I
thought kind of slowed it down.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
That's what we want. We want to play teams like that.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
I think if we can get into tempo, we're better
than them, and that would be good for us.

Speaker 7 (06:44):
Yeah, they're similar. Adding to Shannon's point about turnovers. About Kentucky,
their turnover ratios a lot of like Vandy's, like top
twenty in both creating turnovers and not turning it over.
So I think whoever protects the ball could be big.
Kentucky's face. A lot of good rebounding teams lately. That's
one thing Vandy doesn't do really well. They did well
against Tennessee getting second chance points, but I think they

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might even be last in the conference in rebounds.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Well, that game against Tennessee they were up by sixteen points.
They don't close out well at all. The South Carolina
game they nearly lost.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
They so we could come back.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah, So if Kentucky's down by let's say, double digits
in the second half, I wouldn't be too concerned.

Speaker 7 (07:19):
All right, So what's interesting thing about Vandy is they
have a six nine two D and fifty pound point
guard because everyone on the roster is listed as a
point guard if you go to Vandy's website point guard.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
I forgot about that that was his thing as he
was putting every single player as a point guard.

Speaker 7 (07:36):
I think Brandon Garrison and mari Williams are already in
the portal.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Want to go to Vandy. I'll tell you yeah. Mariy
Williams thinks he's a point guard.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Every single game he's he's clear out left hand, only
dribble and go to the go to the rim right.
So for me, this game is actually a really important
game for Kentucky. Again, I really don't give us a
chance of winning the SEC now, but I do think
we can be a top I mean, my goal for

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the team at the end of the year, I like
to see him be a top four seed. I don't
think that's certain. I'm not even sure if it's likely,
but I do think it's attainable. If you're gonna be
a top four seed, you gotta win this game, right.
If you want to be a top four, three or
four seed in the NCAA tournament, I think you need
to win this game. You're gonna There are still losses
on the schedule. There are still hard games on the schedule.

(08:23):
There's probably even still an upset on the schedule. But
you win this one, you'll play them at home later,
get a big win. I think this game Ryan at
fifteen and four, what are we.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Set fourteen fourteen and four?

Speaker 3 (08:36):
At fourteen and four, this is this is one I
think you need to get, especially at Tennessee and the
or Horizon.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
I think it's very important because you know, if Vanderbilt
is fifteen and four, I think we're fourteen and four.
Kind of ironic, we're both coming up losses to Alabama.
I thought that was kind of unique. But for vent,
for Vanderbilt, they're gonna beat teams at home. They're good enough,
they're gonna like they've already got Tennessee, they're gonna they're
gonna get a lot of wins.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
So if you can sneak in there and get this one, that.

Speaker 6 (09:00):
Absolutely helps you at the end of the season.

Speaker 8 (09:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
I mean, Vanderbilt's been fortunate in the sense that their
non conference wasn't great, so they have less room for
error in the in the SEC than we do. But
you know, just look at the games at Tennessee, at Alabama,
home Tennessee home Auburn. You know, those are four extremely
difficult games left. You still gotta go at Missouri, at Texas,

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at Oklahoma. I mean, you got tough, tough games going.
This is one of those kind of like when we
played at Mississippi State Drew a week or week or
two ago, where you go, let's get this one and
then put everything else to the side if.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
You want to win.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
I think you want to win half your road games.
This is one you need to get.

Speaker 7 (09:42):
Yeah, And so far after the three losses, they've able
to play a game afterwards. They've they've bounced back, haven't
dropped to in a row yet they've always responded, well,
you want to see them do that again. Also, just
look at it, looking at the standings, I consider Kentucky
and Tennessee kind of in a race for the same spot.
With Tennessee just dropping this game at Vandy Reesey, I
kind of see it as a way to get us light,
you know, half a game edge on them in the race.

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How Vandy helped you out last week?

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, I mean Florida.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
You know, Florida's kind of in that group too, and
they had a chance to drop that game at South
Carolina and they ended up coming back. I also, you
know noticed when you watch those games, Tennessee dropped it,
but the couple other teams Arkansas was one of them,
but then sept Florida was as well, where they were
down the whole game and then came back and got

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the lead right at the end and won. Shannon, that
might be what Kentucky has to do, because you're right,
Vandy has quick starts, poor finishes.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah, I could see that. And if that's the situation,
comes down to free throws at the end of the game.
Like I was watching Vandy Tennessee, they're guys tightened up, but.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
We're surprisingly this team has not. Kentucky has not been
great on free throws. I mean, it's weird to me
for a team that's such a good shooting team, we
really struggle on the line. It seems like, especially in
close games. We actually did okay against Alabama, but some
of those other games otega o Way will go up there,

(11:02):
miss too, you know, Butler will miss them. I don't
understand why this team is not.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
It feels like to me.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
With how good they shoot the ball, they should be
like the team was last year that when the guards
got the ball, the free throws were in.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
It just hadn't been like that this.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
Yeah, and I'm starting to hear more and more that
you're right, Butler Otega and Amari, those are guys.

Speaker 6 (11:19):
He would beat the free throw line all the time.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
I don't miss Oddly, I don't blame Amari a lot
like he's I mean, he's a big guy. He's actually
shooting what sixty eight percent from the line. That's probably
better than I thought he would do, honestly. But it's
the guards for me that that missed those free throws
at the end. That's really frustrating.

Speaker 7 (11:35):
Yeah, Butler's been surprised to there yet. Well, I even
think Gonzaga game we had a chance to club. Was
that Andrew Carr at the line car Yeah, he made
the defensive play right after missing it, but that was
a chance to put it away. It rattled out. Another
thing that surprises me with free throws. Although it's been
like this his whole career, Kobe Bray has only taken
like six free throws this season, maybe seven. I mean,
that's just a guy that's a great shooter. That just

(11:56):
I know it's not how he plays, but to never
go to the line when you're that good as Yeah,
he just.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
I mean never goes the rim. And even when he does,
he falls away. They did. I did see that. Mark
Pope said they you know, he spent the whole week
trying to draw fouls. So Shannon, we'll see do we
do we do we do what these other teams are doing.
Fly into guys, take a foul, you know, I mean
we we have not done that.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
I think it has hurt us.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
We'll see if they do it this seeing other teams
do this against Kentucky. The flop, I mean was a
game of.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
I don't think it's a flop.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
There was one a couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Ago that was definitely a flop, but I'm talking about
that was on a rebound, right, I'm talking about the
you go up for a layup. You can either put
your shoulder into the guy. Keith Bogens is always a
dude who I think used to do this. Put the
shoulder into the guy and then and you can get
the foul, or you could try to miss the guy

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go farther.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
From the rim, and that usually you don't make the
shot and you don't get.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
The call right and Mark Pope's been studying the referee,
so he should have an understanding on where they're gonna
make calls and where they're not.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
When I look at these games, I always like to
think of famous ones so at Vandy Ryan over the years. Obviously,
I think the one most people would think about if
the Mahama under underhanded shot with Tubby running off the
court looking at everybody while off the court, off the court.
That was before the monitor reviews of different Yeah, get
off the court, get off the court. There is the game.

(13:22):
Often think of the Billy Glassie game where we lost
by like a thousand with Ashley Judd in the stands,
kick Dusty Mills off the team after the game because
he and uh more at ken Yo Williams were laughing
on the bench during that one.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
I think of the John Wall game against what was
the center?

Speaker 3 (13:41):
You all had Ogilvy, aj A j Olivie and DeMarcus
Cousins uh making fun of him. What other games at
Vandy do you think of?

Speaker 6 (13:50):
Those are the three top ones for sure?

Speaker 5 (13:52):
I think I remember right it seemed like I think
saw Smith that his best game ever at Vandy one
team and had like over twenty points to come from
behind them.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
There was game I think it was two thousand and
three where Kentucky came in and just blew them out
in Dandy, Vandy's point guard couldn't even get the ball
across center court because Kentucky just had so many turnovers.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
We have had a couple of those games, especially in
the last ten or twelve years, where we've just blitzed
Fandy off the court. In those games, we get an
early lead and it's just over. Is there one that
six out me?

Speaker 7 (14:21):
Last year they won by thirty five. Yeah, it was
pretty impressive. The ninety six team, I think score one
hundred and twenty something won by a million. Oscar had
his career high there. He had like thirty and sixteen
when he was just getting started. I think about the
COVID team got to win there, like Daveon Men's had.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
A big game.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
That's right. Theact.

Speaker 7 (14:39):
The very recent success or years have been very good
for Kentucky there. I mean, they have some absolute blowouts
against Vandy.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
By the way, the game at Vandy during to Billy
Glaspie year's was maybe the wildest game in UK history.
We lost by a million. We kicked a player off
the team after the game. They made George ride home,
made George stay in the baffle room stall at halftime,
and then made him ride home when the managers didn't
even allow him to go home on the team plane.

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That was maybe the Billy Gillespie era at its native
right there in the Vandy years.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
Yeah, you mentioned Ashial Judge. She set on the end
of the bench. She was right there on the bench
that game. I was there that game. That was horrible, awful.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Could you imagine if we had a show like this
show back then? Oh yeah, I'd like to be able
to talk about that. I mean when that game was over.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Just as a side note, when that game was over,
I got a text message from one of the player's
parents that said they made Josh Harrelson sit in a
toilet stall at halftime. You have to put that on
the website. And I was like, oh, what do I
put that on the website? But that that happened right

(15:46):
right during the sea right there in the during the season.
If I'm nine to EIGHTHO twenty two eighty seven Kats
and Vanderbilt tomorrow at as the old Dennis joke Tooth
thirty two, turn on Tooth thirty.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
That's no, don't don't shake your head man. Man, that
was a that was a good You know.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
If Ryan made that, you would have made him sit outside.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
But exactly it's different. We'll take a break very back.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
It's the kso wad image is Kentucky Sports Radio here
at Franklin, Hyundai and Lexington.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Like I said, if you pull up, you can just park.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Anywhere here done Franklin and you'll be parking next to
a great deal in savings. Oh nice, No, dude, how
good was that? Eight five, eight oh, twenty two eighty
seven where we're beat we're doing the old guy thing
where we just remember games the uh digger Phelps telling us, uh,
what was it? Listen to me, listen to me, listen.

(16:39):
That was in twenty twelve. I forgot one year this
this game at Vandy was a game that Bobby Knight
called where he got confirmed or whether or not you
remember that.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
He goes, what's this number?

Speaker 9 (16:50):
Well?

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, what is this?

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Well?

Speaker 4 (16:51):
This is the game clock? Well what's this one done?

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Where are we?

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Who am I?

Speaker 3 (16:56):
You know?

Speaker 5 (16:56):
There was that was that was during this game one
time I remember the incident for got completely was against
the Vanderbilt at Vanderbilt.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, we were down on the Billy Glasspie year at
halftime forty one to eleven.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
I was just asking you during the break, is that
the lowest halftime point total for Kentucky?

Speaker 6 (17:12):
You said, I think it was.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
I think, like you know, back in the day, they'd
played like the final score be like thirteen to ten.
So it was before but the shot clock era for sure,
and the shot clock era, I don't think we've ever
only scored eleven points.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
You gotta remember that that was a good Kentucky team
had Romel Joe Patterson. I mean, they were good and
with this guy smoked that night.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
And then in three you were talking about that was
the That was the game where we turned the season around.
You remember Tubby, I think you might remember for people
that time he got that look on the sideline where
his eyes bugged out and he started ah And then
they in that second half win Rowland and then they
were great the rest of the year.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
They came out and clamped down on Vandy that second
half You're right, and carried that through where they did
not lose another game until what was it got that Yeah,
so Drew.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Had one more good one. Well was it Riley chance?
Oh yeah, okay, well.

Speaker 7 (18:03):
He choked twice. He choked there too, not the famous
free throwing. But he had another game. We had a
chance and didn't anything with it chanced.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
All right, So if I'm not two thirty, that's really good.
That's what time it is in a dentist office, Liam Cohen.
So it turns out my text I almost really screwed
it up because I almost like took it back in
the afternoon I was rooting, and then he would have

(18:32):
come back at night. I ended up I did not
take it back. But Liam Cohen flips and ends up
going to Jacksonville. The story is kind of amazing. So
apparently he tells Tampa on Wednesday that he is going
to sign a long term deal. Then they start calling
him Wednesday night like, hey, man, haven't signed it yet,

(18:54):
what's up when you come in tomorrow? No response? Thursday,
no response. Apparently he's on a plane in Jacksonville meeting
with the Jaguars the GM. He said he didn't want
to work for that GM, so they just fired that dude.
They fired the GM told Liam he could pick the GM.

(19:14):
Think about that. They said, you can pick your boss,
which is one of the more amazing things I've ever heard.
You would think he's Vince Lombardi if they're telling him
he can pick his boss. Still doesn't call Tampa Bay,
looks like Tampa Bay. Goes to the media and is like,
we haven't heard from Liam. We don't know what's going on.
The media then leaks that out and he ends up

(19:35):
signing last night with Jacksonville. Crazy story, and then I thought,
all that different than what happened here at UK, might
as well just say so when that was going on
with him talking to Tampa Bay, you know, I'll just
say I got a phone call that was like, why

(19:56):
are you saying I'm going to Tampa Bay. I'm not
going to tamp Tampa Bay. And I was like, Okay,
I guess you're not going. I guess you're not going
to Tampa Bay. And then the next day he was
in Tampa Bay. So Liam Cohen Ryan, I just think
that's how this dude rubbles like great coach, good dude.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Maybe you can't trust what he says in any given moment.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
Maybe I can talk about it now. He bought my
buddy's house the second time I was a listing agent.
I was involved in the real estate deal where he bought.
When he came back the second time and said, this
is the house we're gonna raise our kids in. They
just had a baby.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
We are planting our roots, we are staying like you're
gonna raise our kids in this house.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
But I mean literally, And I again, I like Liam,
So this is I'm not and I'm not just saying
that like and I like you, but I do like Liam.
But I was in I remember where I was was.
I was walking down the street in New York City.
He called me and goes, why did you tweet out
that I'm looking at Tampa Bay. And I was like, wow,
I'm not the one that reported it the Tampa Bay whatever.

(20:56):
He was like, I'm staying here. Why did you tweet
that out?

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Man, it's just what they said, all right. And he
goes say that I'm staying and I didn't because I
was walking down the street in the cold. And two
hours later he was in Tampa Bay like like like
that that it's just how he is. I guess, yeah,
that's weird.

Speaker 7 (21:17):
Last night, his resume looks like he's running from the FBI.
How he's in like one city every year and on
to the next one.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Five years. Right.

Speaker 7 (21:25):
I get that he's advancing his career, and you know
he deserves this climb, But it seems like every time
he's at a place, he's like the Joker walking away
from the hospital, burning behind him, like he's blowing up
everything as he leaves. Yeah, every place he's been, it seems.
I think Mark Stoop still likes him. I think I think,
hopefully not enough to ever bring him back to But
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
It'll be a third time. I do think Mark likes him.
But you know, I know, I know the I will
say this. I know he told Mark, I promise you
I will be here two years the second time, and
then he wasn't, and so you just you just don't
know with him. With all that said, he ends up
in a situation where he's the head coach. He gets

(22:05):
the GM fired, like and my text ended up still
being true. It just twenty four hours after I thought
it was.

Speaker 7 (22:13):
You should go back and hit the thumbs up on
your own. Tex No, I will let him know that.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
That's a really good gon thumbs up the text, Like, see,
I knew it all the time, Tony All you had
to do was trust me. I knew he'd end up
in your in your hand.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
Was there one part of the story where he told
Tampa Bay he didn't answer his funk because his kid
was sick.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
But his kid wasn't sick. He was in Even if
this kid was sick, it doesn't have anything to do
with that.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah, yeah, so what I don't like him?

Speaker 4 (22:46):
I mean, you don't want any left the first the
first time I gave him the benefit of the doubt,
he came back, he lied again.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Done with that guy?

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Wow, Shannon will not be sharing the meal with Uh,
he wouldn't.

Speaker 7 (22:59):
If you go the facts, What if you gotta go
somewhere next year exactly.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
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Speaker 3 (23:11):
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(23:33):
I really enjoyed your interview the other day with Jay Williams.
But I have to tell you all my friends and
I are talking about is the fact that he called
you MJ. For some reason, it annoyed us. Yesterday I
was in the pharmacy get medicine. Guy came up to
me on the way out said, I loved your interview,
but why did he call you MJ? Why Drew you said,
I've got a text?

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Why Why did that bothers people so much?

Speaker 3 (23:57):
He called J?

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Billis JB?

Speaker 7 (23:59):
What was on minutes? I'd say the first ten minutes.
I can't tell you what he said because I was
just like, stop saying m J.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
In my head, it was just like, but MJ, but MJ.

Speaker 6 (24:06):
But boy, we're boys?

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Were I noticed that? But is it just because m
J is Michael Jordan?

Speaker 6 (24:16):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 3 (24:17):
You don't want to give?

Speaker 7 (24:18):
Let me be It's felt like a forced nickname that okay?

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yeah, so if I what if I had said hey,
it would have been already if I said hey, J will.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
Yeah, for whatever reason, I've heard that one. But I've
never heard anybody call you MJ.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Not one time.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
That's why it sounded odd.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Well, clearly people did not enjoy it.

Speaker 9 (24:36):
Who's up first, Rick, God Grant up first, Grant, go ahead, grant.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Corner.

Speaker 10 (24:43):
Matt, I have a question when it comes to the
Arkansas game.

Speaker 11 (24:47):
Uh, I bet cal Perry this fair share beres and
he comes into rep But yes, I understand because you
know he's that for a conference rival.

Speaker 10 (24:55):
But the same time, you.

Speaker 11 (24:56):
Know he's trying to get Kentucky fans what they wanted
because you know we needed an.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, okay, I'm gonna let you make your second point,
but let me say about the he gave Kentucky fans
what they wanted. He didn't do that for us. He
did it for him. He didn't sit around and go,
this will be better for Kentucky fans if I leave.
He sat there and said, I'm going to meet with
these guys. I may go down there, or I think

(25:22):
what he really thought is I'm gonna act like I'm
taking this job and they're gonna give me more money,
and that's gonna leave me to stay. And then Mitch
called his bluff. So while we got what we wanted,
or at least what some of the fans wanted. It
wasn't like an act of benevolence. He was doing what
he thought was best for him, and then it turns

(25:42):
out that was also I think probably best for our
fan base.

Speaker 10 (25:49):
Well, my second point was, you know when Rick Patino
came back into upt with Louisville and he got food, Yeah,
you know over time. You know, he came back to
Big Blue Madness this year and he was like, you know,
he was left and learn everybody loved it. How long
do you think it'll be before the kind of towerness
of that?

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Well, I mean that took twenty years. That took twenty years.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
I appreciate the call, but part of the reason it
took twenty years, Ryan is he was at Louisville for
ten or eleven of those years and he flipped us
off and there was all this. You know, he sort
of stirred the pot for years and years and years.
So Cow will not take twenty years. Like, Honestly, if
Cow wed to retire at the end of this year,
he probably could get cheered in three years if he

(26:33):
came back, But it won't happen while he's at Arkansas,
and it'll still take a year or two. I do
think this fan base will eventually embrace him. I don't
know if it'll be as much as they embraced Rick
last year, because part of why we embraced Rick was
Mark Pope was here. I think if Mark Pope's not here,

(26:54):
Rick would have still gotten applause, but I don't think
he would have gotten as much applause.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
I think Mark Pope being here.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
So if one day we made Tyler you list the
coach and then they brought Cal back, that might be different.
But I think the Mark Pope factor is a big
part of why Patino got the reaction he did.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
I totally agree with that, and I also agree that
one cow will get the standing innovation applause.

Speaker 6 (27:15):
Someday at Rupperna.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
Maybe it's after he retires and they do the twenty
year anniversary of the twenty twelve team.

Speaker 6 (27:20):
There'll be a moment.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
Maybe there'll be a day where we'll welcome him back
the way he's expecting. But it ain't happening while he's
at Arkansas.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
I mean, we're gonna be talking about this obviously a
lot next week, but he has not done anything to
be fair to him, to like say, like take shots
at Kentucky. To his credit, I think he's been pretty
good about not doing that, so I think that has helped.

(27:47):
But the love of Pope then contrasts with what happened
last year. It's just natural that it's gonna take a
little while.

Speaker 7 (27:55):
That And I think the booing isn't symbolic of you know,
all of John Caliperry's way with Kentucky. It's that he's
walking to Reperena to beat Mark Pope. He wants Kentucky
to lose that day. He should be booed. I think
every coach that comes in should be booted.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
It's not just because it's him.

Speaker 7 (28:10):
He is on the other team coming in and trying
to give Kentucky a loss on a Saturday night in Reperena.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
Another I will say another part of that too is
if Caliperry were good at Arkansas, that would make us,
I think, hate him even more. But when he goes
there and he loses that, I think a lot of
you know, some people on the show kind of feel
sorry for him. So I think that maybe some of
our fan base too.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
I mean, I'm the one that feels sorry for him
more than anybody, and I'm the one that gets accused
of being the biggest hater Vice, so Vice Television they're
doing a documentary series about Arkansas and cal So. He
contacted me yesterday, Shannon, I need your advice on what
to do here. Okay, So they contacted me. They're doing
an in season documentary, but it's starting. The show is

(28:52):
going to start with the game that's here.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
So episode one is going to be the Kentucky Arkansas game.
So they actually have not done all that's led to this.
They're doing now till the end of the year. It
may ended up being a bad decision if Arkansas didn't
go to the tournament or anything happen, but they are
starting with this, so they're coming here. They asked me
if they could come to the remote next week. I

(29:15):
said that was fine. The Arkansas dude's gonna do his
radio show from our bar for a little while, so
he's gonna they're gonna come to that. But in the
process they said, and I was a little nervous because
they were like, we want They said, there's a lot
of public clips of things people have said, so I'm
assuming they mean me and we want to make sure
we get like your side of it on this documentary,

(29:39):
So I told him I'd talk to him, but it'd
be interesting. I wonder if this Vice documentary, if the
first episode is just gonna be like Kentucky fans versus
Cow or even maybe me, because the way he talked
about it was like, you know, we're doing Kentucky Arkansas
and we just want to make sure we hear from
both groups.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Well, if you're asking me, should you do it or not,
the answer is absolutely yes you should. And they do
an amazing These are the same people that do that
dark side of the ring, yeah wrestling, So this is
gonna be must watch TV.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
It'll be very good. And they're turning around quick.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yeah. So like our Games February first, they said that
episode will be out February tenth, so like it will
come out. I mean, they are turning around quick, so
so it'll be interesting to see, you know. I mean
we did this with the Netflix show, so I kind
of know how these things go. But uh, they're gonna
come to the pregame show or like you know, the

(30:33):
Games at nine, they're gonna come to the bar during
the day. They want to talk to fans that are
at the bar. So I would say, if you got
things you want to say, you can probably find your
way into it.

Speaker 6 (30:43):
You should be comfable with that role.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
Netflix kind of made you to portray you as somewhat
of a bad guy the first couple episodes of Wrestler.
Now that you thanks thanks a lot, do you think
they'll try to portray portray you the bad flick trying
to portray you.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
As a bad guy we did, thank you?

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Uh yeah, I mean I can't think of anything I've
said at any point about him that was not how
I felt and was not fair. So so I'm okay
with it, right, Like I mean, I you know, I
think it's fine. What's gonna be interesting is what happens
after Saturday, you know, after we play them. If we

(31:20):
were to lose, this will be the same for the
next however long. But I do wonder if we win,
if it's like, okay, we don't think about them again
for the rest of the year. Yeah, I mean, I
think if we win, that would sort of help take
some of the stuff off, do you know what I mean?
I think so too.

Speaker 7 (31:39):
And if we were to win that one, and you know,
if they were to lose tomorrow against to the point
like they're not even in the conversation at all. Part
of it was let's get a better seat than Arkansas,
or we got to make it far of the tournament
in Arkansas. If they're one and eight and not even
in the conversation, it is going to be much easier
to forget about them and move on and be excited
about the rest of our team because they will literally
be irrelevant to college basketball.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Who's up next? Rick Sawyer is up next?

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Sawyer?

Speaker 3 (32:04):
How are you? Sawyer?

Speaker 4 (32:06):
I'm doing good?

Speaker 8 (32:07):
First time, long time?

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Who what what's up?

Speaker 8 (32:11):
I just gotta say, you guys have been talking about
feeling sympathy for cal and I just got to say,
every time he loses, it brings me pure joy. I
hate Cow, my family hates Cow, my friends with Cow.
I mean, he he want us to national championship. I'm
not attacking him as a person, but we should have
won three or four. I'm my girlfriend surprised me with

(32:33):
tickets at Arkansas game, and I'm gonna boo until my
throat bleeds.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
So well, I hope you enjoyed being on the Vice
documentary because I think they're listening today for calls, So
there you go. You may end up on there with
that with that comment.

Speaker 8 (32:49):
I hope they record me and they can put me
on because I believe it in his house is the
ugliest house on Richmond Road. That's all I gotta say.

Speaker 6 (32:56):
Whoa Slammity's house?

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(33:36):
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Speaker 2 (34:16):
We have some breaking news Rick. Whenever you there you go.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Rick's getting quicker on that trigger. Pete Carroll will be
the new coach of the Oakland Raiders Las Vegas right,
same thing, Las Vegas Raiders. Whatever tells you how? Yeah,
I only host an NFL show on ESPN. Don't listen
to me. He will be the new coach. He is,

(34:43):
I believe, ninety four years old. So do you think
that'll work.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
I don't see how that's gonna work.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
I mean, he's a great football mind, but man, they
need they need to look elsewhere. I think that I'm
trying to jump start that program.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
It's Tom Brady a part of the hiring process.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Especially he must have been. Yeah, I mean that that
was Uh, that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
I didn't think about that angle because Brady didn't play
for Pete Carroll. But Pete Carroll was the coach of
New England right before Belichick, so uh so that's interesting.

Speaker 8 (35:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (35:13):
I know Jerry Jones interviewed him for the Cowboys too,
and I thought that was funny. I didn't think it
was a serious candidate for any jobs, but I guess,
you know, he's got a long hair through football. Maybe
he can put the age aside and Vegas stay out
late the culture.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
He would be coaching until he's seventy six if he
goes throughout this three years that he just saw.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
We just we just we just swore in a president
at seventy six. So if you could be president, I
guess you could run the country, you can run the
football team. Yeah, speak uh speaking of that, did did
you all do what I told you a few weeks
ago and go get your eggs?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Have you seen what's happening across the country right now
with eggs? As I predicted?

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Remember I told you, yeah, they're gonna run out of
eggs here in a few weeks. And everybody goes, oh,
you said the same thing about butter. Well, it's happening
all across. Eggs are expected next week to be the
highest price of eggs ever. Really, yes, wow, And in
most of America, if you were to go to the
grocery store right now, no eggs, because everybody is hearing

(36:13):
there's going to be a massive shortage over the next
few weeks of eggs. So I hope you followed the
followed my advice Ryan and went and got your eggs.
And if you didn't, you better go get your eggs now.
They say again, I don't know that the price over
the next two weeks might go up fifty percent of
my gosh, because that's how because that's because of the
combination of economy stuff but also the bird flu that

(36:36):
the eggs we're about to get egg it's gonna be
egg terrible, it's eggtrocious.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
I'm just gonna go out and buy a hen at
the wait. I mean, how much there's a hand costs.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
I don't know. I don't even know where you'd put
a hen.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
You give it, you get out one on radio, all right,
and just give you all the eggs.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
So watch out.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
I hope you went and got your eggs.

Speaker 6 (36:56):
I didn't. I think I still have some of my
refrid fitter, but I think I should go buy some now.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Well they showed I think they was in Louisville. Somebody
took a picture.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
They went to like three different grocery stores and none
of them, Wow, had eggs.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
It's amazing to me when things like that happen.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
I don't know if it's Facebook groups that tell each other,
or like how everyone knows church.

Speaker 7 (37:16):
Potlucks, it just starts spreading around town that way.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
How does everybody know we better go get our eggs
right now?

Speaker 4 (37:22):
I think I'm onto something here. A hen can cost
between twenty and fifty dollars, So you got to play
the long game. Here he's gonna give you a lot
of eggs. I think they would be more cost efficient
to buy a hen and still going where he's gonna
keep a hen in your backyard in a cage.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
They you're gonna need a rooster to go along with
that hen.

Speaker 7 (37:38):
Okay, you're gonna need an extra bedroom for that.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
No, they're saying, no, you don't have to.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not how eggs work.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
They don't. I don't want to explain the anatomy.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Let's give you that. Let's give you the chickens and
the hens talk. You know that the hen just has eggs.
The chicken cut that comes in, the rooster comes in.
That's when they want to make more babies. But the
eggs still which but you know the eggs are still coming.

Speaker 6 (38:10):
Yeah, I thought, you know you want to keep these
hand's gonna struck this business. He needs a roof.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
I don't want a family. I'm not I'm not starting
Tyson's Chicken at my backyard.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Right, and those are gonna come anyway, you know that.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Right, he didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
He didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
He's gonna act like he knew that. He did not
know what he thought.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
You know what he thought?

Speaker 6 (38:29):
He thought in a hen to make eggs?

Speaker 2 (38:31):
No, No, and you've had children.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Who's up next?

Speaker 2 (38:38):
It's even Rix, Devin, go ahead, Devon.

Speaker 10 (38:43):
All right.

Speaker 12 (38:44):
I wanted to I wanted to bring up since you
guys were talking about John call Perry last segment.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Years ago.

Speaker 12 (38:53):
I thought this a couple of years ago. I wanted
to see what you guys thought about it.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Now.

Speaker 12 (38:58):
I compared John cal Perry jimbo Fisher. They won a
championship around the same time they had to have the
national player of the year they were at marquee programs
to win this, and then they kind.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Of, yeah, he was better than Jimbo Fisher, I mean
to be better than to be fair to Cow, he
was better than Jimbo Fisher.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
COL went to the final four.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
The amount of yeah, but that's not you can't just
do it on that, especially in a one and done,
a one and done sport like college basketball. Cal went
to the final four a U mass Cow went to
the final four and was one play away from winning
the title at Memphis. COL went to four final fours
in five years at Kentucky. All of those things, like
Jimbo had like a two or three year amazing run

(39:48):
and otherwise a fairly average career, CAL has been to.
He's one of the only like two or three coaches
to been to three fight to final fours at three
different schools, including schools that once he laughed collapsed. I
don't think you can. I mean, he in his prime. Yeah,

(40:10):
how many other how many other teams did Jimbo Fisher
take to a playoff.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
That?

Speaker 3 (40:17):
The answer is zero, So that's what that's well just
about doesn't do it, so I appreciate the call he did. Again,
if we're going to criticize, we got to be fair.
In his prime, Cal was as good as anybody except
the top three or four guys. So in his prime
he's just not in his prime anymore. Right.

Speaker 5 (40:38):
He's a Hall of Fame coach for a reason. Man,
He's one of the best we've seen in our lifetime.
He deserves to be that in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
When's the last time you thought about U mass basketball?
Huh Marcus Camby and who was the coach that I mean,
That's what I'm saying. I do think you you do?
You do have to give him like his fair props.

Speaker 7 (40:56):
Yeah, I mean the run he head of Kentucky those
early days. We're not gonna forget that. And the issue
is that his prime had fallen off. That's that's why
things went south here at Kentucky. But when he was
in his prime, he was as good as anyone.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
And in college basketball, I mean I sort of judged
about how many years did you have the best team?

Speaker 2 (41:14):
I think we definitively had the best team three years.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
I think in twenty ten, twenty twelve, and twenty fifteen
we were the best team, and in twenty eleven twenty
seventeen we probably were one of the two to three
best teams. Twenty fourteen we got kind of lucky and
went on a run. And then I think last year
we should have had one of the best teams, but

(41:38):
it just didn't. It didn't end up happening.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
There's a run there that's hard to match what cal
did here. I mean a few coaches can match what
he did here. That's why he deserves all this high praise.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
He probably does. He probably should have gotten Shannon won more. Yeah. Yeah,
we were the best team in the country three years.
He probably should have won two of those three years,
and we ended up winning one. Twenty fifteen, twenty fifteen,
that one.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
There'll never be a title that a team should should
have won.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
More than that one. That twenty fifteen team that should
go down as one of the three or four best
teams in the history of college basketball. And then we
just let the shot clock, yeah, which did not require sex. Well,
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