A Frogman Friday (Hour 1) 6/27/25

BFF Don Maclean joins the show to talk about the Lakers and Clippers draft picks. DVR with Dave Vassegh. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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But responsibility hardens the heart. It must.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Why everybody? What's cracking? And welcome back from yesterday.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
The petros In Money Show is on a flex alert.
We have started at two o'clock because the Dodgers start
at four. Dodgers on deck at four with the one
and only Tim Kates first pitch at five. Ten Dodgers
at Royals. Very exciting matchup, more exciting show. Aotani pitches tomorrow.

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David Vasse is out there doing TV all weekend. We'll
talk to him in the very next segment. We will
talk to David Vase.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
So when he does TV, he doesn't do radio like
the postgame or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
He does like Kates does.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, Tim Kates takes over and takes you straight on
till morning. And I have gotten various texts. I mean,
since that is your whole plan is to derail everything,
I will have gotten various texts that lawd Tim Kates
and his ability to deal with the callers in a

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different way from the more combative filled with vinegar and
you're in, David Vesse. Yeah, Tim, much more diplomatic. Indeed,
that's a good way to put it either way. That's
what's coming up. We have an F one report. You
heard his voice. You know the man. You know that
the snakes are running scare all over Burnbank, California. The

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leading scorer in the history of the PAC twelve Conference.
Welcome Texas State.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
I looked it up today. Where it is avally no
San Marco, San Marco, in between Austin and San Antonio.
Where is that in relation to the Golden Gate River there? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:38):
All right, yeah, Texas State. So we'll never have a
basketball player that touches Don McLean's record, and they'll never
have a statue for anybody at Lemon Park and see
me Valley.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Why should they are there? Bob Kats and see me Valley.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yes, Yes, the baron of Box Canyon, Big ten Network,
see a fan dual sports. He is not only a
legendary basketball analystic player, but his son Trent McClain getting
ready to start his freshman year at the great Saint Mary's,
which is a great university for basketball. So I mean

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there might be a Petros in money imagine that kates
a Petros and Money show trip to go to LMU
to watch Trent play.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
I'm in follow you.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Right up to probably a seven pm tip go right
into tip off.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Ops live from the stadium. Yeah, knock LMU radio right out. Hey, fellas,
excuse us. You ever heard of a little thing called
great sports Talk? Great sports Talk Catholics. We do have
intern band who's an LMU guy here. That's why we're
chopping it up about that. But okay, we have a

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few items. It is early, so hopeful music can do.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Oh come on, oh, I remember the.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
What it used to be.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Japanese song? I love that dog? You don't even remember
what it used to be. This has got a lot
more fight song at Japanese Dude, I've gotten comfortable.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
We'd had a few early shows and I haven't been
hit with the susie Q at two, But today I
got two of arts at two by susie Q.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
Kicking myself. Don A couple of weeks ago, she was
at the Burbank Marriott by the airport. You could have
done like a show thing, brought the y and she
was there.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
She what do you mean? She played a show at
the Bourbank Marriott.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
And all sprint said. I went to that early put
on her compression songs.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
I went to, Man, I've never seen a show at
the Bourbank Marriott, and I don't think I ever will.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well, we missed this opportunity, hardy. Are you happy with yourself?

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Can we move on now?

Speaker 3 (04:59):
We can?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I'm sorry, but it's too hot to be.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
I mean, well, I got admit, I mean it is.
It is catchy, you know, Tom doesn't doesn't Hey, it's
got some pop.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
I like it. It's got a great beat and you
can dance to it, right, bring some life energy to
the show. Early.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Well, it's a Frogman Friday as well as Palm as
the Sea, but as devastating as it becomes on a
Frogman Friday. The Petrosen Money Show celebrates the greatness and
the frightening nature of the sea, specifically the Pacific Ocean,

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and many people that protect us from its wrath. We're
talking about Coastguard, lifeguards, the Navy, maybe mounted beach police,
and the great Mike Nelson played by Lloyd Bridges, one

(06:05):
of the greatest actors of our time.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
And the greatest television show ever. See her.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
And I saw a cave nearby, and the music seemed
to be coming from it. As I swam toward the cave,
the music grew louder. Suddenly, some powerful force pushed me
toward the rocks like a giant hand.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
I was being sucked into the cave.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
I held on with all my might to the ledge
above the opening, and finally squeezed over it to safety.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
But I had been knocked around.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Like a leaf.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Todd Light's thirteen five, What are you nuts? We still
got to take that Florida man. You know what that's
like these days?

Speaker 7 (06:56):
You got the Navy everywhere, You got frogmen, the E
C twos with the satellite tracking, you got the bell
two nine of salt choppers up the ass we're losing
one out of.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Every nine loads. That's no duck walk anymore. Let me
tell you forget about money. What do you suggest that's reasonable?
She lapped in a room.

Speaker 8 (07:22):
Oh you know, you know, you go, you know, you know.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
You're.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
You're going, you're oh you do, you go, you go.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
You go, you go, you go, yours go.

Speaker 6 (07:39):
You know, your.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
Dog, yourna, your your doll, your dum dog dog, you dog, you're.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, you know
you oh yeah, oh yeah, you know, you.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Know, you know, you know you.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Uh, all right, welcome back. That's all the stuff. That's it.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
I believe that's it. Is there anything else? Did I
miss anything?

Speaker 8 (08:18):
Tim?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
I did? I did?

Speaker 3 (08:21):
I did miss something? We need a baseball organ because
we've agreed on a theme.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
We have an event. Wait what, we've agreed on a
theme for our next event.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Oh, it's gonna be Baseball orient because we're gonna bring
the Dodgers to the ie brother.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
I feel like the Dodgers are all over the endow. Okay.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
But the second stop of the twelfth annual Petricks of
Money Summer Tour is Friday, July eleventh, from three to
six to the place called September's Tapram and Eatery, very
popular Dodger themed restaurant. They have like a Dodger logo
on their margarita. They have the Dodger Rita, a blue margarita.

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There's one in Redlands, there's one in Paris, there's one
in Chino Hills right by Levar's house. And there's the
one in Ranchall Kook right by the Quakes Stadium where
the Dodgers. That's why we're bringing the Dodgers to the ie.

Speaker 8 (09:27):
You like it.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I mean I didn't want to wear a cowboy hat
at another remote.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
I've since the trend that you guys have most of
these remotes at a brewery, tap room type play.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, it turns out the listeners enjoyed drinking. Now, if
we had an event at like a distillery, you know,
we might not make it past. You know, it's a
three hour show. That's a pretty long drinking session when
you're hitting the hard stuff. Yeah, good point, but it
is going to be a hell of a show. We
got Dodger tickets. We've got a two night getaway to

(09:55):
MGM Resort in Vegas to give away.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Lively.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
You know, you had a pool party at the MGM
for years, you know, a year, it could be years.
I haven't been to Dodger Gammet this year, but it's
been a little busy. So now it's time.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I know a guy you can ask for tickets, David Vassa.
I heard they were hard to come by. They're not.
David Vasse's gonna join us.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
If I do ask Dave. I'm gonna make sure I
ask him the day of the game.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, I want to go. Yeah, like maybe an hour
before I'm outside, can you come out and get me?
All right?

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Well, look, Don McClain has come to the end of
a very long process.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
As you know, how many years has it been? Ten years?
Maybe not doing this, Yeah, no longer than longer.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Twenty years of training draft prospects for CAA uh not
just any geek off the street either. Cooper Flagg was
one of his guys. All nine of Don's players got drafted,
six in the first round, three in the second round.
The total of twenty three international players from fifteen countries

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were selected, and the twenty twenty five NBA draft six
players from France. Don McClain has been deeply involved in
this for many years and the draft for him is
not entertainment because let's be honest, it's not very entertaining anymore.
It's business. And so now that it's all over, and

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you know, every year is a different group, has a
different character, yep, has a different feel.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
What's the aftermath feel like?

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Well, what's fun and why I continue to do it
is there's an endgame to it, Pete. And you know
there's a lot of guys that train basketball players and
work them out in the offseason and all that, but
there's there's really no quantifying endgame. You hopefully have a
better season next year, whatever level you're at.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
That one shot that that guy made, I want't done
that with him.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yeah, but like we have, you know, Wednesday night and
Thursday night to see how you did. And so this
year was different because it was bigger, and we've talked
about this. We had nine get drafted. We had more
than that in the camp. But when you have to
make the decision to stay in the draft or go
back to school, we're usually pretty accurate in assessing where

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they're probably gonna go. And so we had I'm gonna
say four guys that went back to school that were
with us the entire time. Did had a couple team workouts,
and then you know, we made the assessment that look,
best case, it's probably second round, so let's go back
to school and improve your stock and come back next year.

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You know, everybody keeps saying not everyone, but like you, guys,
what was interesting about having Cooper flag there was is
I wasn't interested in him in the sense that I
can't help him. He was going number one no matter
what he did, right, So it's like, there's nothing that
that doesn't interest me. What interests me is guys that
have big ranges, Guys like Drake Powell, who his range

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was probably, you know, twenty to forty and he went
twenty second. That's good, you know, Jase Richardson, we had
Lee mcneith. The only disappointing part and it's really not
all that disappointing because their first round picks is we
thought and I thought that Danny Wolf and Liam McNeely
would go a little bit higher. But what you have

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to understand about the draft in the first round is
one one team doing something out of character or out
of what anyone thinks changes the whole dynamic of the draft.
And two things happened. Malawak sliding to ten to Phoenix
started a bit of a change in things, But what
really threw it off course was Portland trading back to

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sixteen and then taken the guy from China, Chinese guy.
That messed everything up, especially for us, because we believed
that if Portland was supposed to take Yakachonas who Miami
ended up taking at twenty because he had fallen. But
if Portland had taken Yakachonas, Miami probably takes Lee McNeil
at twenty. So that's nothing that Leam McNeely wasn't ready.

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It wasn't that he's a worst player. But when dominot
cir circumstances in like a domino falls and it changes
the direction, and sometimes it just happens. And that's what
happened for sure to McNeely, and I think with a
couple other guys that weren't supposed to go as hih
that's why Danny Wolf went. But look, there's still first
round pick, sure, And you know what, the one thing

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that these guys don't understand that I have the luxury
of the experience knowing, yes, you want to get drafted higher,
yes you get paid more the higher you get picked,
but it's really about going to a place where you
can play and get to that second contract. That's the
biggest deal is getting to the second contract. And you
talk to any agents and people that know this would

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be I'd rather go twenty five to a team with
a good opportunity than go fifteen, and I'm not going
to play it.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
All that holds throughout pro sports, baseball and football as well.
Basketball is just so much more exclusive because they're such
less players, less guys, and that's what you guys deal
with every year. A lot of college guys, big name guys,
didn't get drafted or were disappointed. So you don't think,
or I'm not to put words in your mouth, you

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think that's more of just the circumstance of this particular
draft and not a message to all these college players
like hey, stay in school and take that nil money.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yes, well that's what's changed. Everything is nil and how
much money, especially this year.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Let those guys you sent back, Yeah, I bet they
didn't go back as looking like Bassett Hounds like they
would have three years ago.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
You know what I'm saying, We had a kid in
with us, so I'm not going to say who it
is or where he goes. But he really wanted to
stay in the draft, and we just said, look, you
want to be in the first round. There's a slight
chance you get to the first round, but more than
likely you're going to get picked in the second round.
And this kid really wanted to be a first round pick.
So we said, look, you should go back to school.

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And normally it would be like, go back to school
and prove your stock, I said earlier. Now it's going
He got a million six to go back to school.
A million six. So let's say you're the let's say
you're the thirty third pick, which is like the third
pick in the second round. You're probably getting a three
year deal for four million dollars total. We had another

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kid to make We had another kid. This really won't
make sense. Older guy went in the second round. We
told him he was going to go in the second round.
He had an offer on the table for four million
dollars to go back to school, go to school. But
he's old, he's been in school for a while. He's
almost twenty four years old.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yell, I don't care. I'll be Van Wilder for four million.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Yeah, so he ended up going to the second round
and that's what he wanted and hopefully, you know, he
can make some of that money.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
People want to start their journey, y and I understand
that part of it, Yeah, but it is interesting that
a lot of big name college guys didn't go at all.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
You know what it's in.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
I've known this for a long time, even going back
to when I played. It's what translates to the next level.
Just because I was telling Tim earlier one of the
best quotes I've ever heard, which is a many from
the late great Jerry West. There's no shame in being
a great college player, meaning what you are, what you
do works in college, but it ain't gonna work at

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the next level. And so guys like Hunter Dickinson when
people are onund he was like the first guy that
really got paid in NIL. He got like two million
to go from Michigan to Kansas and everybody, Oh, I
can't believe he's He knew Drew Timmy Gonzaga, same thing
state at Gonzaga for five years. Why because he knew
he would make more Gonzaga than he would because he's
not gonna play in the NBA. Hunter Dickinson, great, great

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college player. I don't know how much totally made, but
made way more than he was gonna make either going
to the G League or going overseas because he wasn't
an NBA player. So these big name college guys, yes,
they're really good college players, but they're not attracted to
the NBA because of measurables, skill level, whatever it is.
They just aren't going to translate like that quarterback.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
The big story from the draft was Quintin Yours, the
guy from Texas. Here's a guy who insisted on going
into the draft. They're pushing him out because of the
arch Manning and il deal. He's much better than arch Manning.
Arch Manning's not proven, but that's modern college football. This
guy's got to go. He goes to the draft falls
what did he go in the fifth round.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Or something like that.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
And now the poor guy could have made like three
million dollars at least transferring somewhere and playing college football
for one more year. And these are not the decisions
that these young guys used to have to make, because
you go when you go, and that's that. Some guys
made big, bad decisions, like Maurice Claret and Mike Williams

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twenty years ago or whatever, trying to take on the
NCUBA when the NCUBA was more powerful. But for the
most part it is. It is kind of a brave
new world, but not a bad thing if guys are
making more money.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
No, And I think you know everybody, if you watch
the draft, you see this, you heard it twenty times.
This has been my lifelong dream as a kid to
hear my name called. And that's that's more powerful than
any money you can get, I think. And the thought
is is everybody believes in themselves, so they're like, well, yeah,
I'm giving up money to go back to college. Maybe
more money, but I want to start the clock on

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my NBA career and I think I can make it.
And I think the sooner I get into the league,
the faster I get to free agency, and that's where
you make the real money.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
You know, we were supposed to have Ben come in
here and go toe to toe with don you know,
because Ben was supposed to be like our draft expert.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Remember that, remember where is he? Well last week or.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Like two days ago, Ben was like, you're to talk
about the draft and I was like, no, you know
where we're on from you know, we're on early, the
Dodgers are playing. You know, Don's coming in on Friday. No,
And he looked like really disappointed, like sour faced.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Well, the Lakers didn't have a first round pick. Well,
you had the thirtieth pick in the first round, and.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
We'll get into that. We'll talk about who they picked
and what Don thinks at the forty five. We'll talk
to David Vasse in the very next segment. Don McLain
is here and we have him at our disposal. We
didn't need to talk about the NBA draft and sounds
stupid like we always do when he wasn't here. But
you know, I will give Ben credit. It's really hard

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for people to do this. And I asked him like, hey,
like what do you think about this guy? What do
you think about that guy? And he's like, I don't
know that guy. And that's hard for people to say.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I don't know. You know what I'm saying. I come
my radio partners never said that. You know, I see it.
You know, it's hard. It's hard to say it.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
Hey, Don, with all those euros that went in the draft,
I think a lot of people are like, who is
this guy?

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Kate is pissed about it. Why is he going thirteen
or whatever?

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Jim is such a xenophobe. Don you know he's pissed
him out. All these foreigners.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Well, the one thing, and I think we've talked about
it on a show, is all these teams, there's always
they get wrapped up in a theme. Like it used
to be five years ago, you couldn't take four year guys.
Now all they want is four year guys. It used
to be you draft European guys to stash them and
then bring them over three or four years later. Now
everybody wants Europeans because of win Bin Yama and Giannis

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and these guys have had success football.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
When I was growing up, it's like, we can't. We
can't draft that quarterback. He runs around.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Guy runs around too much right here, looking at me,
Look at m loud the rush. We can't have that.
That screws up our topic as an offense. Now you
have to be able to run. Yeah, this guy's a statue.
He can't move. Wait a minute.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
David Vassa will join us next the latest from Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
He's high on his horse.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
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Speaker 3 (22:09):
However, David vass is in Kansas City and he's got
a TV cameraman because he's doing TV all week nice
on Spectrum Sports Net LA all weekend, I should say, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
And he's doing it in Kansas City. There's a TV
camera guy from Kansas City. So Dave's getting the strutting

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with some barbecue treatment.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Dave, Dave looks cleaner than a Safeway chicken on TV.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
He looks good.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
You like those good that the vast very? John Papadakis
Taverna asked. But anyway, it's time for.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Day the Home of the Dodge with an inside look
at the Dodgers. This is the Vassie Report with David Vasi.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Spectrum Sports Net LA tonight tomorrow the next day, right
here on M five seventy LA Sports MLB Network, it
is David Vast say out to you by service Titan
dot com.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
What's cracking, Dave? How are you?

Speaker 9 (23:04):
I'm doing great and I may have made a wardrobe
mistake because I was thinking with the night game, I
should be professional and have a sport coat with no tie.
But it is really toasty out here, and I'm hoping
it cools off by first pitch, which is seven to
ten Kansas City times.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
So hoping.

Speaker 8 (23:24):
Uh, my white shirt and my coat hold up between
now and the end of the game.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
You can always remove the coat and roll up the sleeves. Yeah,
you know that's what they do at the desk. Oh yeah,
well yeah, can you borrow a tie from like an ushirt?

Speaker 8 (23:40):
No, I left it at home.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
It can be He's gonna look like Sean Miller on
the sidelines tonight.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Well, hey, would be.

Speaker 9 (23:46):
The first time I'm thinking about wrapping out on the sidelines.
Maybe getting a tap out on the sidelines. Maybe just
do it from the press box if they need an
in game hit. You never know, because it's so hot.
It's so hot, so hot, Dave.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Overall, though it's been a great road trip, the Dodgers
sweep the Rockies, there is a rumor swirling around. Okay,
I have to explain this to Dawn. Dave gives the
dead fish handshake too always, or gets the dead fish
handshake from a guy to give him good luck because
of after he hurt his hand, Jad Martinez gave him

(24:22):
a dead fish handshake and turned his thing around. Now
it's Confordo dead one and he's turned it around. And
the word on the street is that Freddie Freeman received
a dead fish handshake today.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Four for four, two bombs tonight.

Speaker 8 (24:39):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 9 (24:40):
Freddie received the dead fish handshake in the clubhouse today
because he's struggling. He got his first hit of the
series yesterday at at Corsefield. It was a big one
to go ahead base it, but he still.

Speaker 8 (24:53):
Is not happy.

Speaker 9 (24:54):
And just about half hour ago he was in the
cage alone with no bat of simulating swinging the bad
and trying to get back on track. But that won't
be needed because he received the dead fish handshake. So
let's see whether or not it works tonight.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
Dave, how many how many a year do you give?
Is it one of those things where if you do
it too much it might wear off and not work.

Speaker 9 (25:18):
One hundred per don you know it? You don't just
hand it out to anybody struggling. But Confordo was in
a season long slump and he joined us on the
pregame show, and it was spontaneous, you know, I thought, hey,
you want to do this dead fish handshake. It got
JD Martinez rolling, so Freddie was not. Freddy did not

(25:39):
receive it as a pregame guest, so I'm not sure
if that kind of waters down the handshake or not,
but we'll have to wait and see.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, I wanted to ask you about Kershaw.

Speaker 9 (25:50):
By the way, don it's only CONFORDO and JD that
have received the deadtation well and Freeman.

Speaker 8 (25:56):
Now now Freddie, yes.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Okay, want to ask you about Kershaw. I was thinking
drug to day with the Green Jerseys. Yeah, you know,
it's like you won't go too often.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
You keep going and keep going, you lose your second
althlete to BC. That's right, we'll see, that's right.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
So Dave, I was thinking on the way in and
I obviously I'm a Dodger fan watch the Dodgers, and
I don't have numbers in front of me, but it
feels like Kershaw's off to a really good start this year,
like better than he has in a while.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
A Is that the case?

Speaker 3 (26:25):
And B?

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Why is it the case? If it is?

Speaker 9 (26:29):
Okay, well, that's reality, it's not just perception. Don This
is the best start to kershaw season since twenty nineteen,
when he was undefeated in his first nine starts. He
has undefeated this season in his first eight starts. He
went five to oh to start his year in twenty
nineteen with an ERA of three zero three. This year

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four and oh with an ERA of three zero five.
The biggest difference is is he's just doing it differently.
In twenty nineteen, he was still throwing in the mid nineties.
Now he's throwing in the high eighties, low nineties. But
one thing that hasn't changed is his stubbornness and his
will to outcompete whoever's in that batter's box. That has

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never changed, will never change, and that's the reason why
he has been the best starter since he returned.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
David Vasse here's our guest. You'll see him on Spectrum Sportsnet.
Tim Kaits will do the duty all weekend long on
Dodger Talk and Dodger Clubhouse. David vass on TV and
on TV for another show. Hey Otani start tomorrow, slated
to start against Lugo, and he's gonna pitch maybe more

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than one inning is the word.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
On the street.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Dave, do you think that you will have the same
kind of scene in the stadium before the game starts
that we've had at Dodger Stadium with Otani pitching.

Speaker 9 (27:55):
Yeah, that's a great question, because this will be the
first time as a Dodger he is pitching on the road,
and not in San Diego or San Francisco, but out
here in the middle of nowhere. If Kansas City, MIZZI
I mean, I mean, it's in the middle of nowhere,
the paris of the play. I mean, I mean, let's
see how many Dodger fans show up. But Kansas City

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is a great baseball town, so I would imagine even
Royals fans would want to come out and see Otani
for one or two innings tomorrow. I don't see him
pitching more than two innings tomorrow as this gradual uh
rehab return continues tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
Here in case you just said that p had a
great question, I may be asking a stupid question, but
I'm gonna ask it anyways. If they know, Dave, that
he's only going one inning like these last couple starts,
why does he have to start? Why can't that that
inning be at any point during the game. But if
you know he's only pitching one inning.

Speaker 9 (28:50):
Well, because you know, he's obviously unique, Don, he's the
two way player. How would he warm up in the
bullpen in the middle of the Yeah.

Speaker 8 (28:57):
As he is hitting.

Speaker 9 (28:58):
And also, you know, they want him to get used
to the pregame starter routine and he does as well.
So it gives him the opportunity to go through the routine,
get his elbow and body ready to go. Because, as
you know, fatigue is the greatest risk to injury, and
that's part of the reason why the Dodgers are having

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him finish his rehab in major league games rather than
throwing a simulated game at one o'clock in the afternoon,
cooling down, then getting hot again. So they're just trying
to limit the fatigue factor because that becomes the greatest
injury risk. Dave left his tie at by the way, Don,
great questions. Unlike Petros's other co host, You've done phenomenal

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compared to the other guys whoa.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
A lot of Jonas. Poor Jonas Knox, you know what,
and he didn't deserve that.

Speaker 8 (29:51):
Yeah, it doesn't know who Jonas Knox is.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, I think it's you know, that's not nicely.

Speaker 8 (29:56):
It's Kareem Garcia.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Here isam Garcia. That's Dave. That's how kind you know.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
That's Jonas knocks. You just don't like his associate. I
agree he lays down with Fred too often on the
Rogan and Rodney Show. But you know, the guy's trying
to get ahead in the world of radio. He appreciates that,
ain't it.

Speaker 9 (30:14):
I got I got news for him. That ain't the
way to go to get ahead. Wow, you're not wearing
his leather jacket the other two days.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Sometimes you gotta ride the horse before they galled it,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 8 (30:26):
Dame like it ain't God Don's back, Thank God Don's back.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Geez, Dave, you don't have to be that way, all right?
What are the Royals like?

Speaker 8 (30:35):
They can't hit, They can't hit, They cannot hit.

Speaker 9 (30:39):
And actually the head ground screw keeper told me that
they changed the grass here in Kansas City, and ever
since they changed the grass, they haven't won a game.
They just got swept by the Rays. They got shut
out yesterday, and they have lost ten in a row
in their home ballpark, and they have scored a total
of twelve runs in those ten long here in their

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home ballpark. So if you're putting that all together, the
Dodgers only need to score maybe two three runs to
win a game.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Why is changing the grass affect your hitting? It doesn't.

Speaker 9 (31:13):
It's just a coincidence or a superstition. But ever since
they changed the grass, they haven't won.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah don't, yeah, don Hey, why don't you attack Don
like you attacked for Jonas?

Speaker 8 (31:23):
He's the all time leading scorer in Pac twelve history.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
And I buy the meals.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Hey, at least Jonas put on a football uniform, played
one thousand oggs, O line, D line?

Speaker 8 (31:32):
Who is Jonas Knucks?

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Who is John Gould?

Speaker 3 (31:36):
All right, thank you Dave, and have a great night
on television, and we'll all be watching on Tommy Pitch,
no doubt about it. Take care and have a good time. Man,
Just send somebody to get you a tie or a
TV guy. Send a runner, Send a runner.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
From the truck.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Thank you, guys, I appreciate you can always send a
runner from the truck. You've endeared yourself to that TV crew.
Send a runner, thank you, am I go get me.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
There can't be a men's warehouse too far away.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Sometimes one time, one time, I believe. I was in Stillwater, Oklahoma,
between the car and the booth, I had no more tie.
I don't know what happened to my because I put
it on when I get there, and no more tie.
So I took the tie off the neck of the
director who liked to wear a tie. So give me
that tie, really, yeah, snatch it right off his neck.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
It's the first director I've ever heard wearing a tie.
Ernardo Lowe, you know why, smooth dude from Howard you
know d C.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yeah, but it wasn't a bow tie, even though he's
a DC Black fraternity guy.

Speaker 8 (32:37):
Was it was a regular look for a guy with
the tie.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Do you hear that? And snatch it off his neck?
All right?

Speaker 3 (32:42):
There he goes David Masse on ampi's WLA Sports, your
Home of the Dodgers. Will be right back and we'll
talk to Don McClain, our guest host today because he's here.

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Speaker 3 (33:17):
App say oh yeah, really feeling his oats in Kansas
City with that TV microphone in his hands. He's got fans,
he does, He's got fans Fassay's podcast. If they only
knew what we knew, if they knew years ago. Yeah,

(33:38):
but if they knew what he was really lying, maybe
they do. I don't.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Don McClane is here.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
We're on early Dodgers on Deck starts at four, so
we got another hour and ten. We had a riveting
basketball conversation. It really was very interesting. Uh before we
had to talk to Vassay, So let's get back to it.
Because we didn't talk about what happened with the local teams.
The Lakers traded up in the second round to the

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number thirty six overall pick, and we still didn't talk
about it as much as last year's second round pick
for the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
But a due fearah.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Average fifteen point one points and fifty four and a
half percent shooting from the field from Arkansas is an
Arkansas razor back makes you think of Corliss Williamson and
forty minutes of hell Nolan rich and Richards in Fayetteville.
But I mean, I'm sure you're aware of this player.

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It's not like we're talking about D'Angelo Russell when the
Lakers picked him.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
But what did you think.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
Started at Kentucky with Caliperry, then when Caliperry went to
Arkansas followed him down there a explosive I mean explosive athlete.
Not a great skill guy, but a lot of teams
based on you know, is he gonna play around way?
Probably not, But let's start with the athleticism. If we
can get him to be able to knock down a

(35:04):
corner three, now he's gonna be one of the best
three and D guys in the league. When you when
you evaluate guys like Thiero and they're in the athleticism
is off the charts. All you're thinking is how good
of a defender could this guy be with the physical
tools he has? And I'm sure that's what the Lakers
are thinking they need and that's what they need. And
so if he can buy into converting, not converting, but

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but being a high, high level defensive guy that can
make an open shot, I mean, you're playing with Luke
and Lebron, So go over there in the corner and
if we don't have something, we're gonna kick it out
to you. And you need to be able to knock
that one down. But I like to pick because you
don't see guys that big and that explosive athletically every

(35:49):
day now.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
The Lakers signed former Villanova forward Eric Dixon to a
too not Wan. Dixon, who became a reality star, really
got onto the Real Housewives of Something Potomac, Oh, Real
Housewives of Potomac, back and forth with his high school sweetheart,
file for divorce, come back, put his personal life out

(36:11):
there on display. Well anyway, Dixon, this one was the
league scorer in the country in college, averaging twenty three
points a game at Villanova. Lakers signed him. We talked
about the Jerry West comment of there's no shame in
being a great college player.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Where does this guy fall there? Well, he led the
country in scoring last year. Dixon and so big body
started his career at Villanova being kind of a big,
strong rebounder, interior presence and expanded his game, became a
good shooter in a big time scorer at Villanova. Where
does he fit in? I think the one conversation we

(36:46):
should have pee it was prevalent last night, especially with
our guys, is the second round. The second round has
become very interesting for this reason. You know, we talk
a lot about salary cap and aprons and second aprons
and teams. You know, in the luxury you know, you
use the second round to find players that can help you,
but where you are financially matters, and so the agents

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really control a lot of the second round because you
can say, my player is not going to take a
two way contract. So the difference and we talked a
lot about this with Bronni last year. The Lakers gave
Bronnie a standard contract, which means you are on the roster.
It's usually a three year or whatever it is, four year,
eight million, whatever it is. But if you're on a

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two way, you're not taking up a roster spot, and
the financial part is way less you get if you're
on a two way, you max out a two way
contract because you get a maximum of fifty days up
with the big team. So if you do that, it's
still way less money than if you're on a standard contract.
But that's a way for teams to draft players keep

(37:51):
their rights, send them to the G League and hopefully
they develop.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
And now people aren't taking those some people aren't.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Like we had a situation last night where one of
our players went farther or lower than we thought in
the second round, but it was on purpose because the
team that he was falling to was going to give
him a standard contract, and all these other teams were
only offering a two way, So even a better situation
for situation, even though he went lower, you do not
want to be on a two way because there's no guarantee.

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If you're on a standard contract, you at least get
that money guaranteed.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
The Clippers picked the guy from Penn State. I was
shocked that Penn State had never had a first round
pick in the NBA Draft. You were shocked by that, Yeah, well,
I guess it's the kind of like the same shock
where like people say, God, look at USC, why isn't
USC basketball a thing? And you have to explain, like
the sports arena, you know, and like, but you know,

(38:45):
Penn State Athletics, yeah is something? Or behold and never
but they got this guy, Yannick Conan Kniederhauser. Yeah, thirtieth
and final pick of the first round on Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Who is he?

Speaker 4 (38:58):
Big athletic kid. It's funny that the Clippers drafted him
because I remember this year and I don't see him
a lot, once or twice a year, but I saw
Lawrence Frank at a USC game I was doing, and
it was a Penn State game, and he said, have
you seen this Niederhauser play? And I'm like, this is
my first Penn State game I've done. He's like, he's
big enough, he thought.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
I mean, they're a real powerhouse. I'm amazing.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Yeah, he's big and athletic. He's a rim protector, pretty
raw offensively. But again, what I was just saying earlier,
let's take him. I mean, he's a first rounder, but
for sure a kid that will spend time in the
G League developing and hopefully in a year or two
that he can help him.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
The Knicks drafted this guy, Kobe Sanders, one of the
Nevada guys, and it was alfered now and they drafted
him at number fifty, but they traded him to the
Clippers for the fifty first pick. Sanders is a six
to nine wing guy. He did pretty well last year
at Nevada. Well, here's the interesting part. And we've talked about,
you know, why guys don't translate and big name guys

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we were saying earlier that aren't NBA guys.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
Sanders was third team. Think about this third team All
Mountain West. So there's ten guys in the Mountain West
or twelve or whatever it is that were selected ahead
of him, is all Mountain West, and he's the one
that got drafted because of the measurables, because of what
may or what may translate to the NBA. And so

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that's the best example I can give you of what
we were talking about earlier, that you have to have
either a skill or the athleticism or the size that
makes you translate to the NBA level.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
It is pretty wild.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
The number one story from this NBA draft first was
a Harper's mom, but now it's about Ace Bailey. He
didn't want to go to Utah. I mean, Utah's obviously
not the most attractive place to NBA players. I guess
if you've been to Salt Lake City, I would say
it's just about as vibrant as any other downtown in the.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
NBA save you know, Miami, New York, in LA.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
You know places these guys really want to go, but
this doesn't seem like a winning formula for the young
man out of.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
Rounds, and it would scare me as a team. A
number one, you didn't do any workouts, So what are
you hiding? Yes, you're really good, but you know you're
not above anyone else in this draft. And so my
thing would be, why do you care so much about
what city you're living in. I'm worried about I want
to get on the court and help my team win

(41:33):
and then you know, get a second and third contract.
That's the focus, not where you're living or you know
what the demographic of the city you are going to care?
Who cares you're a basketball player exactly? And he's gone down,
you have to go outdoors. You know a couple of
things here, Pe, he's messing with the wrong dude. Danny
Aing ain't playing around in Utah. So if he thinks
he's gonna win some battle, then Danny's gonna.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Well, what does he think's gonna happen? They'll trade him.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
Yeah, they'll kill Cave and facilitate a trade or something.
And I don't even know if you can trade picks yet.
I don't know when you can do that, but hey,
that's not gonna happen, and b what is the guy?
So let's say you lose this battle of trying to
get somewhere else and you're on the Utah Jazz. What
are all the veteran guys looking at you going? You
didn't want to be here? You didn't want to be here?

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Who do you think you are? Like, it's a bad situation.
I don't think this kid realizes the mess is he
has created for himself.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Is somebody gonna get to him, Michael Jordan, call him
or something, tell him to lock it up?

Speaker 2 (42:29):
I mean, but he's gonna have some explaining to do
wherever he goes.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Don McLean a hero to us all. That's some real
strong draft talk. I feel a lot better about my
draft knowledge. No shame in being a great college play.
I like to hear from Ben though, first, to get
his thoughts on everything.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Where is he? I mean, we're just chopping it off
off air.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
Every time you made a comed He's like, yep, yep,
Don's right, Yeah I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah, okay, yeah yep, yep. What did he say? He
got you? He really did.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
He acted real strong the other day and then like
I was like, well, they're fine, if you know so much,
come in and talk about the draft.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
And then I went in a different direction and he
got real butt hurt.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
I like Ben, and I've known his dad for a
long time, but I don't think that's a conversation he'd
want to have with me on air.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
I don't think so that sounds like the gauntlet's been
thrown down.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
I mean, I don't think it would go as well
for him as.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
We just go player for player, just you know, I mean,
I mean Ben's not as involved with measurables. He Ben
likes to grit, you know, unfactorables, grit background.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
How do you quantify this guy's girlfriend? Like, how do
you quantify.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
We'll be right back with your word number song in
the day. We got the F one report too, coming
up for the next hour. DoD McClay is here.