January 22, 2025 • 43 mins
Jack Harris from the LA Times on to talk about his article that took a deep dive into the Dodgers' courtship of Roki Sasaki. We take a listen to a couple of New York radio hosts who are fed up with the Dodgers' aggressiveness in free agency. A surgeon performed a vasectomy on himself
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, we continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on
a five to seventy LA Sports. A reminder the media
in Los Angeles will officially meet Roki Sazaki three o'clock.
We will have that for you here on the radio station,
and David Vasse will be out there joining us. Now.
Our dear friend from the LA Times who just does
a terrific job every day, Jack Harris, who covers the Dodgers,
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and Jack welcome back to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hey, how you guys doing.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
We're doing well. Jack, you nailed it this morning. What
a great piece on what went on behind the scenes
and the recruiting that went on to get Sazaki first.
How long did it take you to find all that information.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Out in real time? Probably not as fast as I
would like. There is a lot of it wasn't quite
the level of Otani free agency secrecy. But yeah, I
think teams were being pretty cautious about sharing, you know,
too much about what was going on in their respective
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recruiting processes and how they were trying to make their
pitches for a Kisusaki. But I think afterwards, you know,
obviously people around the Dodgers involved in their pitch process
were pretty pleased with how it went down, with the
message that they got across, and you know, ultimately being
able to land this picture that they've coveted for the
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last several years.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Here and Jack, let's be let's be honest. The Dodgers
have with this process, did everything above board. You know,
there are people out there that suggesting that they didn't.
And there's you know, there's other folks that saying they're
manipulating the rules of of MLB with the deferral payments
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and all that stuff, to the point where there's a
bill in the state trying to trying to stop what
the Dodgers have done. But they've done everything under the
rules of MLB. But this happens.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
This happens all the time if you're whether you're a
four player or not. But there it happens. Recruitment happens
with guys.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
If you're familiar with somebody, you can say, yeah, hey,
i'm an let's go to dinner. If you have Mooie
Betts and you got a buddy who's really really good,
you gotta go to dinner and say, hey, why don't
you come be a Dodgers. There's nothing wrong with that.
Why are people so up and arms. Is it because
it's the Dodgers And obviously the Yankees went through this too,
But now that the Dodgers have spent money, people are jealous.
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Other owners are jealous now because it feels like it's
coming for the other owners.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I mean, I think generally this offseason, when it's come
to the money the Dodgers have spent, the way they've
used these big deferral, big signing bonus contracts to land
star players, it's created some consternation around the league about,
you know, can anybody compete with them? And I think
most people would point back and say, look, what the
Dodgers are doing is is what you'd expect a team
like the Dodgers to do that makes as much money
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and has as many resources as they do. And it's
up to the other teams to find ways to compete
with them. And then when it came to the Roki
Sasaki free agency specifically, you know, this is something that
I know obviously has been talked about a lot publicly
over the last couple of weeks, this idea that maybe
the Dodgers had a handshake deal, maybe they had some
sort of advantage in this This is something that people
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around the sport had been speculating about, even going back
to the last offseason, when it looked like for a minute,
Roki Susaki might come over to the big leagues last year.
And yeah, to some people, there was this idea that,
you know, the Dodgers were going to get him, not
just because they were the most logical landing place and
the best fit, but because maybe something below board had happened. Now,
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before MLB even approved Roki Susaki's posting to where he
would be allowed to sign with big league teams, they
did investigate some of this stuff. They didn't find any
evidence to corroborate it. They even poked around with Sasaki's
Japanese team to make because obviously they didn't get it's
like a one point six million dollar posting fee out
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of this, to make sure there was no you know,
illegal kickback scheme or something like that. So there's been
a lot of chatter about this, but as far as
you know, people with the league are concerned, they haven't
seen any evidence or anything else to suggest that this
didn't play out in a fair and proper way. I
think when you look at how it did play out,
you know, because Rokie, in consultation with MLB, ended up
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signing in the twenty twenty five signing period. It put
the Dodgers in a little bit of a financial disadvantage
because they had the smallest signing pool with which to
try to pursue him out of any team in the
big leagues. And obviously we're able to overcome that in
a couple other ways. And you know, in this situation,
money wasn't the number one factor. So yeah, this has
been something that's been talked about a lot with this
specific situation and then against the backdrop of all the
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other spending that the Dodgers are doing. But you know,
if you talk to people with the Dodgers will say, look,
we're just I think Andrew Freeman said it earlier this offseason.
We look at this as rewarding our fan base and
taking the resources that we have and the money they've
made off of all their on field success and trying
to reinvest it back in the team to be as
good as they can be moving into the future.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Jack Harris at the Times is with us. All right, Jack,
if you would through your reporting, because on that piece
was great. Today, let's talk about the initial meeting and
what you learned was part of the homework assignment for
each team, and then the second meeting when players were
allowed because you wrote about them both.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, so I think the Dodger pitch in this situation
kind of played out in two ways. There was this focus,
especially in the initial meeting, on you know, pitching development,
player development, what teams could do for Rokie. He assigned them, Yes,
this homework assignment now as his agent termed it, which
is basically asking teams to identify why they thought his
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past ball velocity dropped off a little bit last year
from you know, ninety eight ninety nine outs like ninety
six ninety seven, and what they would do to try
to fix it. This is something that the Dodgers felt,
as I wrote about, like, was kind of in their
sweet spot right for all the problems that they've had
with pitching injuries, they are really good at helping pitchers
develop stuff and maximize their talent and be the best
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versions of themselves. So that was always going to be
something that in addition to you know the prestige of
playing for the Dodgers and the chance to compete for
a World Series and all the other selling points that
they had. I think there was a pretty big focus
on Hey, if you want to become the kind of
player you think you can be, we are the best
place for you to do that. Then that was all
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backed up by the actual messaging from the players.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Some of this started with shohey O Tani and Yoshinobu
Yamamoto's personal relationships with them, as I wrote about, like
they took them out to a dinner early in the process.
Tyler glasnow talked about the message he sent Roki during this,
which was, hey, if you you know, whatever your motivations are,
the Dodgers of the place that can help you, you know,
achieve everything you want to. And then yeah, last week
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the team had their second meeting with him. He granted
meetings to his three finalists where he went in person
and to see each of them. And then the Dodgers
case they because of the renovations going out of the stadium,
they had it at one of their co owners' houses.
They had a sushi dinner, but the big crux of
that event was having a handful of players there in person.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Mookie Betts stood up and gave this long speech about
the special place that Los Angeles and the Dodgers have become,
you know, in the second half of his career. Will
Smith was there talking about the pitcher catcher dynamics and
you know, all of that goes into that with the team.
The team got videos from a lot of the players
who couldn't attend in person talking about, you know, how
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much they've enjoyed the Dodgers, why they thought it was
a great place, you know, telling him how excited they
were at the possibility of playing with him. And I
think the people around the team that were involved in
this process, it was that ability to take what they
felt like was a strong message on paper and then
have it backed up by so many star players and
big voices, and then obviously sho hee Otani himself, who
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was the person who could most closely relate to the
experience that Sasaki was going through this in this entire
posting process. People around the team thought that that really
helped their their message land that it resonated with Roki.
You know, Mooki bet is in Japan right now on
a promotional tour actually, but was talking about this with
reporters there and said, you know, even during that dinner,
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he could just tell how much Roki, you know, is
going to enjoy playing with Otani and Yamamoto. And I
think especially with Otani, that was a question coming into this,
right that Rokie Susaki said, I want to be the
number one player in the world, and it was fair
to wonder did he feel like he could do that
if he's playing with the current best player in the
world and show hey Otani and maybe being in his
shadows someone and being around all the attention that comes
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with it, and I think being able to have all
of the players help deliver that message, you know, attest
to the kind of place that the Dodgers organization is
to play again to people around the team. They felt
like that was a really big part of helping them
land their message and ultimately why Rokey Susaki is going
to be introduced here in a couple flowers at Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Jack, do you know anything about who was at the
other meetings for the other clubs or how those went?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, they had players there too, I think obviously with
the padres, you know, there were videos of some players
being around. There was the the U Darvish connection that
he had with Roki Saki is something that you know,
a lot of people in the sport, especially as it
got closer to his, you know, his decision. There was
a lot of buzz about the Padres feeling confident, feeling
like that Darvish relationship in particular, you know, was going
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to be a plus for them. It seems like, especially
among the three finalists, each of them you know, were
able to present something that really struck Rokie Soaki. You know,
obviously he hasn't talked about this publicly yet. We'll probably
learn more about, you know, what some of the de
factors were for him at the end. But when it
came to the Dodgers again, like on paper, they checked
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so many boxes for what it seemed like would matter
to Roki Sisaki in his future. And yeah, when you
can back to up with just the star power that
the Dodgers have, obviously, the players that already knew him personally,
all the other big names that could talk about, you know,
why they've enjoyed playing for the team so much. You know,
it's it's easy when you kind of look back at
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all of this on totality now to see, yeah, that
that probably makes for a pretty compelling pitch for for
somebody who has followed MLB for a long time, has followed,
you know, what happens in the league pretty closely, and
getting to hear all that firsthand, I'm sure ended up
being a pretty key factor and why he ultimately picked
the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Hey, Jack, With all that being said, how how real
do you believe the other two teams had a shot
when it's all said, given the history, given the players
that we talked about, given the relationships communication with Sazaki
and Yamamoto and Otani, the Dodgers as a whole, as
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an organization, because a lot of people believe in and
like you talked about, we talked about that that this
may have been done before, and it was like, you know,
Dodgers had had a handshake deal in the past. How
much do you believe that that the other team's actually
had a shot to land him?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I mean, it seems like they felt pretty confident to
various levels. I think the Padres all along like their chances.
Mike Schilp during the winter meetings spoke pretty bluntly about
you know, I really think that we have a good
shot with Rokie, and obviously the Darvish piece of it
fueled a lot of their their optimism as well. And
then with the Blue Jays, you know, that was the
surprise team included in his list of finalists. They felt
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strong enough to, you know, a few hours before he
announced his decision to go out and acquire a bad
contract in Miles Straw to be able to get a
couple million more in signing bonus money to try to
to woo him with. So, you know, I think the
actions of the teams kind of speak to the fact that, Wow,
a lot of people in the sport always kind of
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thought the Dodgers would end up with Roki Sasaki at
various points of this process, I think other teams did
feel confident or at least did feel like they had
a real shot at getting him, And on the flip side,
you know, people with the Dodgers were ever certain that
they were getting him. I think kind of similar to
how Shoheo Tani's free agency played out last year, where
they always liked their chances and you know, if you're
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reading some of the tea leaves, it might have looked good,
but they didn't know up until the very end, until
they made his decision that they were getting him for sure.
So yeah, I think it at different points of all this,
there were teams that felt like they had a real
shot at getting him, but all along, again, there was
a reason why so many people thought the Dodgers were
favorites in this, and I think ultimately why he ended
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up being in l A.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, they were getting them all along, Jack, you want
to cut should we slice it and dice it and
just get right to it. They were getting them all along,
right and.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Sit on this Miles Straw contract. Now, Like I was
texting the people in the industry about that, and it's
just you know, at that time, there was a lot
of like surprise that, wow, Toronto's doing this. This must
mean that either they think they're getting him or they
think they might not be, but they still have a
shot too. So you know, I think some of those
things I think did surprise people that maybe this was
a little bit more of a competitive process than they
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were figuring. Even if you know, he ends up with
the Dodgers in the end.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Two things about that, First, while you got a dog
Miles Straw, maybe Toronto really loved them, maybe that's their guy.
And second of all, maybe yeah, And second of all,
how about this, Maybe it's the surprise in people the
Blue Jays maybe it surprised them, but nobody else because
you know something, nobody takes their money. Think about it,
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the Tati debacle of last year. The people there hate
him and he didn't do anything to him. They're gonna
hateazaki now too. They're gonna hate him now.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I would imagine, Yeah, I would imagine. Maybe not at
the level like if we go back to the Hockey
Hall of Fame, I don't think he's gonna be on
like the don't let this guy in list of the
other you know, shoplifters or whatever. But but yes, that
was That was one of the subplots of all is
like the poor poor Blue Jay fans who had to
endure all of this and back to back years to
watch these players end.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Up in l A. Yeah, well you know what, Jack,
just tell everybody were sick of their whining. How do
you like that? Let everybody know we are we're not
putting up with it. Jack enough, great job, man, you
you you you're all over that just terrific work.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
As always appreciate it, guys, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Right, we'll talk to you. There was our buddy, uh
Jack Harrits at the times he really does a good job.
He really does. Yeah, he does. And you know, honestly, well,
there might have been a surprise. You know, people might think, hey,
there might be something here, maybe in Toronto. I don't know.
Maybe Dean Spanos thought the Chargers were gonna win. Maybe,
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but they weren't. And at the end of it, when
you and still got here. But at the end of it,
when you look at it and you just look at it,
there was one place he was coming. I kept saying that, yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
And you know what, two friends on that if if
he didn't end up and say he ends up in
Toronto or he's in San Diego, it would have been
one of those.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
God, I could have been a Dodger, you said, even
outside of it, yes, outside people, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
What are you doing? You know what I mean? It
would be like what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
If people that don't even know baseball be like, wait,
let me get this straight. You got a chance to
be a Dodger, a Padre, or a Blue Jay, and
you chose the Padres, and you chose you chose the
Blue Jays over the Dodgers to play on that team
that's gonna be in the world series every single year
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and as the best organization. What come on, what gives gif?
Come on? Come on, man, come on, man, come on,
who's got a gun to your head?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Come on? Yeah, and that's why it made zero sense.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, it made really Really did the other teams believe
that they were actually in the mix?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Did they really actually believe that they had a chance. Well,
Mike Schild during the winter meetings, the povery manager, we
think we're really in it. Well you're really not.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
You're done, and you never really wear right and you
never really wear right.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
You never were in that. Look, every team should do
whatever they can and sign whoever they can and be
the best they can. But what are we doing? It's
like you said, Rodney, if you don't sign here with
Otani and yeah, all of the stuff. People were saying, Oh,
I don't think you want to live in the shadow.
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We can't have that. That's not who he is. I mean,
what are you doing? Come on, you would have for
the rest of your life. You'd have to answer that
question exactly what we think?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
What were you thinking as you watch the Dodgers when
World series after World series go to LEDCs and all
those things and be on TV every single week. You're
gonna have to sit back and go. I turned that down.
I turned that down. What am I thinking?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Right? There was just family witness on him. Yeah, there's
no way, and that's why he ended up here. I
heard something last night and it was a perception I
think many people have of the Dodgers. We're gonna let
you hear that next. So how do people around the
country feel about the Dodgers and what they're doing. Well,
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we see social media and we read the stories. Got
some audio that we're gonna let you hear next. Oh yeah,
up day.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Rodney Pete Fred Rogan on a Wednesday. Come on, now, come.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
On, Rodney had to people around the country feel when
you hear the Dodgers. Now, I told you they are
the villains of sport. I'm not talking about baseball. I'm
talking about every sport. It's a a much respected moniker
to acquire. People are so envious and jealous. You become
the villain, and again you have to win it on
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the field. All they've done is put themselves in position
to win it again and to be in the conversation.
So I'm on X last night and I see a post.
I think it was from w f A N in
New York. And if it is in fact that it's
a number one sport okay, good, number one sports station
of the biggest market in the country. That's kind of
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a powerhouse, a boomer, just like we are, Rodney. They're
killing it. And two of the people on are talking
about the Dodgers. This came out of New York last night.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Listen, he's got Dodgers just signed Kirby pretty soon. How
many rosters that I have?
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Enough?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
My god, what is going on here?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Guys? Get beat you?
Speaker 5 (19:12):
How many guys did the Dodgers get? They get, Tanner's
got and kirbyates?
Speaker 6 (19:17):
Who else?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
This is amazing what they've done.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Soasaki tanner'scott worn enough now even Kirby ATE's like, what
are we doing? I understand how they're doing it. Just
every player that's available that's decent is going to the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Hundred and fifteen wins.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
There's not gonna be any underbelly of the Dodgers roster.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I'm betting the under on principle, I'm betting the under.
I'm betting the pants off of the under. One hundred
and fifteen wins. No, something will go wrong. I just
don't believe that you could build a team like that
and have sixty What.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
The next move is comingtable? They introduced the first million
dollar bat boy. That is where it's going. The guy
in the warm up the pictures, he's signed two point
seven million dollars deal.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I think you just found piece next role maybe.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
And there you go, Edie, let me tell you this. Hey,
I'm ready for our j RJ is sitting pretty now.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
You gonna be the first million dollar clubby That's what
I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Hey, listen, I'm glad they had some levity with that
because they're in New York. They understand, and they better
not be jealous because that's the way people felt about
them for years. They were the evil empire that had
more money than anybody else and spent it. And there's
teams that over the years in all sports that have money,
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they just don't spend it. They're just cheap. And the
Dodgers are spending it again. But it doesn't guarantee you
you win it all, but it does guarantee you gonna
be in that conversation. What's crazy is that? Imagine Imagine
what Oklahoma City's gonna be like, imagine that triple A
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franchise and how good that franchise is going to be,
and the players that are coming through there or just
playing there just kind of, you know, biding their time,
waiting their time. Oklahoma City. Oklahoma City, they might draw
better than Cincinnati Fred based on the prospects, based on
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the people that are playing in Oklahoma City. They may
draw better than Cincinnati and Pittsburgh. Yeah, they may have
better records too. And if you're trying them out there,
they probably went two out of three in a series
they could.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, I just loved because we kind of touched on it,
but I thought they did a great job. Are there
any players left for the Dodgers to sign? Because they
sign every single person they want.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Just think about that, Like the guy said, how many
roster spots do they have? What I'm saying, like, the
Dodgers farm system is gonna be loaded because everybody can't
be on the big league club, you know, So there's
gonna have to be placed, is for these guys to
And they don't want you guys just sitting either, so
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they gonna want guys to be playing, pitching, hitting.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
All those things. So those minor league rosters are gonna
be stacked, stacked. But again, like he said, how.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Many do they have more roster spots than everybody else?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I thought he did a great job of explaining that,
because honestly, I was thinking the same thing every time
they sign somebody. How many guys can they sign? Yeah? Yeah,
how many? Because in the fact, it seems like they
signed whoever they want.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
When he said the Dodgers just signed Kirby Yates, He's like, oh.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It was like that laugh, like.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Oh, Gody, this this is incredible. This is incredible. Do
you think that's a good thing? I mean, obviously there's
there's always pressure, and the Dodgers have handled it well,
especially Dave Roberts has handled the pressure well of everybody
expecting them to win and and win one hundred games
plus every year and then go on and cruise to
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the World Series. But the pressure now is like no other. Right,
It's like, come on, come on. If you don't win
three in a row, two in a row at least,
and something wrong, it is going to be it might
be the toughest year for the Dodgers because everyone, I
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mean every team out there is going and We've said
this in the past. Every team is going to play
their best against the Dodgers, and the Dodgers is going to.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Get everybody's best every single series starting the season. If
I was the Dodgers, I'd just start laughing. I wouldn't
I would start laughing. I would be so confident, so confident.
I wouldn't laugh at people, but I would just laugh
at what people are saying.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Well, you got to get ready for it because people, Yeah,
people are going to be, you know, very talkative. But
as soon as Dodger's going a three game losing streak,
you know, the sky's gonna fall.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Look, they said the over under what they say?
Speaker 3 (24:10):
The guys said, I'm waiting the record on Seattle had
the record? What was the record when it was one
fifteen or when sixteen? We're going to look it up.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Uh So he said he's taking the under on principle.
I said this at the beginning of last season, so
I'm gonna say it again. I don't care how many
games I win means nothing to me, absolutely nothing. At
least it's got to be one hundred, though, Fred I
don't care one hundred when ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
They don't win one hundred, Fred, and then something's off a
little bit, don't you.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Think, Rodney, you know what's off? Nothing until they get
to the playoffs. Are they giving games away? No?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I mean yeah, so they should win just on just
on trotting out there. What they got is you win
one hundred games. Now after that you can say debate, Well,
we're resting guys, or we're trying guys at new spots,
we're gonna not gonna pitch, we're gonna do bullpen sessions,
we're gonna do all these things. But I think one
hundred is a threshold where you could do one hundred
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with this roster in your sleep.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Uh what?
Speaker 6 (25:14):
One sixteen, by the way, is the record for the
Seattle Mariners that tied the Cubs in nineteen o six.
By the way, so that was the two thousand and
one Marritors. Right now, the couple of sportsbooks I'm seeing
for the Dodgers over under is one hundred and three
and a half. I do not see one fifteen, all right.
Between one hundred and three and a half and one
hundred and three is kind of what I'm seeing right now.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, and here and here's the thing, and I hear
you get they got to want a hundred.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
On that bet the farm on a on the over
on that one. Don't you right now that dumb is
only gonna go up. The number will go up. I agree, yeah, yeah,
the number go up, But I don't care.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
We learned last year the years before, during the regular season,
you're thinking these guys are invincible, and then they laid
an egg last year at the right time. They got pushed,
they got challenged, they got hot, and they wanted And really,
when you've signed Otani and Yamamoto and Sazaki and Mookie
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Betts and Freddie Freeman doted the exclamation point for this argument,
Freddie Freeman, when you're signing guys like that, they're only
here for one reason. Yeah, They're here to put you
in the seats at Dodger Stadium for eighty one games.
They're here for you to ooh and ah over how
incredibly talented they are. They're here to win in the playoffs.
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That's why they're here. That's it. Really, you are paying
all of that money to all of those people for
exactly one reason, the playoffs. Because when you make that
kind of money, and I made this argument last year,
when you make that kind of money. You've got to
perform in the biggest spots. Well, they're human beings. It
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doesn't matter. That's why you're paid. You're a human being.
Then work for the minimum and nobody expects anything of you. Well,
people have a bad game, and they do, except then
you need to perform. That's it. That's why all those
guys are paid. And it worked last year. It worked
Freddie Freeman, who struggled during the regular season, who had
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a bad ankle. Thank god his son is okay. It
was not a typical gold star Freddy Freeman season got
to the playoffs. Whole new ball game. Then, wasn't it
whole new game? Then? Yeah, buddy, it was so everything
he did during the regular season, which was not typical
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Freddie Freeman when he got to the playoffs, that's why
he got paid. Oh, Tony didn't have the greatest playoff series.
He came up with a couple of big hits, but
I think you can argue it wasn't the greatest playoff series.
He'll be more adjusted this year. He won't be his
app to just start swinging or chasing as he did.
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And maybe it was the big stage in that arena
because he's used to performing in big stages. But maybe
he was a litt uncomfortable. Okay, they got over that.
Mookie Bets. Mookie Bets couldn't hit his hat size in
the playoffs a couple of years ago. Couldn't, Sorry, didn't.
People are gonna, what the hell's wrong with Mookie? Nothing?
(28:17):
Thank you? Oh, nothing's wrong with Mookie. You saw what
he did. So when people are saying, well they want
one hundred and three, they won one hundred and twelve.
I don't care how many games they won, good luck
to everybody. Everybody should win whatever they want. All those
guys get paid to play in October. First they get
paid to get to October. Then they get paid to
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play in October, and anything along the way is fun
and exciting. And we want everybody to be the best
at every position. But that's why they get paid. That's
why they have ten pitchers. Now, could their pitching staff
could be ten people? Do you really need ten pitchers? Well,
last year they could have used twelve. But yeah, that's
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the thing.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Last year they looked up and go, man, we ran
into a situation and thank god it worked out because
we had to rely on our bullpen who turned in
turned out to be lights out. But can you imagine
anyone else with the injuries that were specifically targeted towards
the pitching staff, and how you have to overcome that
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as a Dodger and as an organization. You can have
Freddie Freeman and Mookie Betts and Otani and all those guys,
but if you're giving up nine ten runs a game, Fred,
you still you're not gonna win. And so yeah, the
bullpen and the pitching staff and the coaches and Mark
Pryor and all those guys, they all need a raise
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because what they did last year with a depleted and
injured pitching staff was nothing but incredible, nothing but incredible.
So yeah, that was the focus of this offseason and
they got it done. And so now they're insulated. But again,
they ain't enough spots for everybody, Fred, they have too
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many players.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
And that's a good problem to have. Just ask Gavin Lux, Oh,
I'm sorry he was traded.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Hey, Freddy, come on, fred why Wow?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I'm sorry? Why no? I remember Brendon Gomes. That's a
good problem to have. Remember that, That's what he said,
that's a good problem to have. He did well. They
fixed the problem. But you brought up.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Gavin Lux and I know he's sick because this is
where he was drafted, this is where he was groomed,
this is where he wanted to be.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Injury really set him back.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
But he came on last year and had some big
moments and he's not going to be part of this
next run. But he did get his ring, which was
really cool and we wish him the best.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
But man, you know he wants to still be here.
All right? Who would you rather be right now? You
can be one of these two people you pick. You
can be Gavin Lux or Micel Rojas. Come on, would
you rather be right now? Now?
Speaker 3 (31:10):
You took me back to the visual Migo in that
Chicago White Sox dugout.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Man Vargus, Miguel Vargus bargains, bargains, bargains.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, come on, man, no, no, you don't want you
don't want to be with the White Sox.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
They're going absolutely nowhere fast. And so you see for
Gavin Lux, it's a good thing. Mm hm that you
thought that was a shot at Gavin Lucks. I was
celebrating his new Uh, Gavin Lucks got two rings. He's
good to go.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
And but again, man, you want, you want five, you
want six rings? You want you want to build that
be a part of that dynasty and be a part
of that winning culture and winning program.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
It's uh, it's tough, man, It's tough.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
But again, all the people complaining and chastising the Dodgers
for doing what they're doing. Namely, if you're a fan
of any fan base around the country, aren't you, I mean,
you're not angry, You're more envious. It's like, I wish
our ownership would do what the Dodgers are doing. You
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have to be well if you're smart, I don't get mad.
Don't get mad, go complain to your ownership. Why are
we not doing this? I read somewhere, I saw somewhere,
I heard whatever I did. Like the Marlins. Their payroll
is like fifty million dollars or less than that. And
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there are a few other teams that you know, I
think second or last is the Sacramento A's. I mean
they have any shot to win it all? No at
A at a.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Thirty million dollar payroll? No, come on, man, what are
we doing?
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Don't short change in Rodney they have a forty two
million dollars pay roll.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
The Mimmy Marusan. Okay, the Marlins had forty two.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Forty two million, and the Oakland whatever they're called, Oakland
Sacramento fifty four million.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Oh see, Now both those teams could win their division
this year. I mean when they've up their payroll to that.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
I will say the Rays come in at number twenty
eight out of thirty teams at fifty nine. But you
always say, it's not how much. It's not how much
you spend, is how you spend it, to your point, Fred,
and they find their way to be competitive every single year.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
That's true. But is that right?
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Yes, this is cool. This is according to sport Track.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, I was listening to something this morning where they
were running down the different teams in their payrolls, and
so the Dodgers at three seventy and the next the
next team is not even over three.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
Now, this might not have been fully updated over the
last couple of weeks or so, because right now it
has a Dodgers at two hundred and seventy four. It's
not Yeah, so it's not fully updated. But now, so
you haven't heard about Miami going on some giants spinning
spree this offseason, so it's not gonna it's not that
far off of where it is right now.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Are you telling me? In totality show? Hey, o, Tani
makes double the payroll of the Sacramento Ads.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Yes, fifty four point one million dollars. That's almost hit
the A. The a's payroll for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
So one player makes more money than the entire team
in Sacramento, or for that part Miami is Actually he's
at seventy million though, right, Yeah, but I'm saying he's
if he's saying there payroll is fifty four million. Yeah,
he much further than all of them, the whole team.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Well, with his deferrals, technically he doesn't well yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
That's yeah, but on paper he does.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, mean on paper without the deferrals, he's a seventy
million dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Guy, I mean, what do they defer in Miami fifteen
cents a year with a payroll thirty nine million dollars
or whatever it was, We're going to defer twenty five
dollars a year, That's what When you hear that, that's
all you need to know. And your point, Rodne need
to finish this. Your point, well, people shouldn't be mad,
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but they are. They are mad. Well, they should be
mad at their own ownership. Well they're not. They're not,
because that's how people think. They're sheep. They get in
the flock and they follow. Dodgers are bad. You're damn right.
I agree. Everybody should hate them. I hate them. They're villains.
They spend too much money, they cheat, they abuse the rules,
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they find loopholes. We hate them. That's what it is.
The majority of people don't even look deeply into anything
to understand what's happening. They just say, now, no, if
I got a feeling, given what's gonna happen this year,
they're gonna hate him even more. Oh, they gonna hate them.
Hell oh oh, oh, all right, do you know? Uh ching.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Go twenty eight and one to start the season, Fred, Yeah,
everybody's gonna hate him.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Oh, they're gonna hate him. It doesn't matter. They're gonna
really hit him. You know, Chen Wine Winong, Chen Winong.
You know who that is? How do I know? And
you're not even pronouncing it right, Winong? He's Chad Winong
chen Winong. No, I don't know who that is. Okay,
(36:28):
well he's a doctor and uh well, ready set snip.
We'll we'll talk about that. Come on, yoh, it's a
home take.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan And unfortunately there are some a
new fire that broke out north on the five off
the five Stag Lake area. Be careful if you're traveling north,
going home or wherever you're going, please please be careful.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I don't know what's going on in the Oxnard, Ventura area,
but my son Josh is out there. Showed some video
and those guys look nasty out there. Yeah they are. Yeah, yeah,
so be careful, all right. So look, I don't want
to get too personal. It's a story about plastic surgeon
(37:21):
Chen wine On. I think we all know who he is.
Accomplished in his field of endeavor. Yeah yeah, Okay, show
a hands who's out of a sectomy looking around checking
it out. Nothing to be shy about. I mean I
had one years ago. I actually went on the air
(37:44):
at fifteen forty to ticket during the procedure and describe
what was going on. Sure, it's not the most pleasant
thing you'll ever go through. But if you have a
trained professional handle it, and you know you'd make that decision,
you make the decision. Yeah. The one thing I would
think the one thing if you have someone operating on
that type of equipment, they need to be very skilled,
(38:08):
very focused, and there's very not a lot of room
or margin of error. You know, one thing the wrong way,
it's gonna go south on you, and that's gonna be
bad south on you. Yeah, for any number of reasons. Well,
look doctor Wangong plastic surgeon again, doctor wine On, win
(38:34):
On On think he said, wang On, Well, that's what
I thought it was originally, which would have made it funnier,
but it's win On. Anyway, he decided that he was
gonna have a vasectomy, okay, and then he decided, look,
this should be an educational process. So what I'm gonna
(38:56):
do is I'm actually going to record it and then
what I'm going to do is play it for people,
because there's nothing to be embarrassed about or anything. This
is good. It's good that people know how to do it.
We did do your own, how do well, we'll get
to me right, Okay. It's good that people know the
(39:18):
procedure right, and the procedure right. I'm gonna put that
up informational informational sure, like going to Harvard Med. Yeah,
all right, the issue became he wasn't really having a vseectomy.
He was giving himself a a sectomy. He himself was
(39:40):
performing the vasectomy on him which, to me, right off
the bat says he might be one of the most
flexible people you'll ever meet in your life.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
At least, how do you do that on yourself? As
you mentioned Fred, first of all, you got to be
the most flexible person in the world. But then it
begs the question as to why why would you want
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to perform this procedure on yourself.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
It shows the surgeon in his chair performing the operation
on himself as he casually talks viewers through the process
as if he was doing a makeup too, torol.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Is he trying to make to think that people can Hey, listen, folks,
you can do this yourself if you just follow this video.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Well apparently he thinks that. Now here's what you need
if you want to try that. First you need some
You need something to anesthesize your genitals and numb them.
So he applied that cream to himself. Then he used
(41:01):
to scallopol and a surgical clamp and went to work.
Oh my god, suit your death thing up ten to
thirty minutes It's kind of like making a quick meal.
You know, you look online and I like to make chicken.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Say it was a quick snip snip, Yeah, I'd like
to make chicken minutes.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Is that what we said? Ten to thirty minutes. I'd
like to make chicken cord on blue in twenty minutes. Well,
this is the same thing. I'd like to give myself
a vasectomy in twenty minutes. Well, this guy makes it simple.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
No need to go to the hospital, go see it
surgeon or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Just do it yourself. Yeah, he can handle it. You know,
it's kind of like going to lowos. Social media has
really ruined the world.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Because you know, you know there will be a number
of people that try to do this themselves.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Oh yeah, no, well you go, what are you gonna
see yourself?
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Hell but if somebody tries this based on his tutorial, well.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
He's not tenant goes wrong to it. He's just saying
you could do it like this. Now here's one thing
that I didn't mention. Am I bad? You know, things
could go wrong, even in a short procedure like this,
Something could happen. There was one point in time where
he looked to be an excruciating pain, you think, listen,
(42:30):
I don't question the work of doctor. Why not excruciating pain?
But what he did he leaned back in his chair
in apparent pain. Then he gathered his tools and resumed
the operation. I'm not sure exactly what they were referring.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
To as tools. And this is all visual online. You
can go check this out.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah, Kevin, see if you can find it. How about you?
Speaker 6 (43:02):
How about you goa find it?
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Fred?
Speaker 6 (43:03):
I'm Okayikes, you have all the information that you need
in the article.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
You have his name. I want to see it now.
I'm gonna look at it.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
I really want to see if you're a male, do
you really want to see that? I'm gonna look it up.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
By the way, most commenters praise the self sufficient surgeon
for his bravery. I bet they did. Glad it ain't
me what they said? Better you than me? Fred, Well,
all right, during the break, I will look up on
the I'm gonna look it up right now, Dan, like
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you joined us. Next, we'll talk about the Lakers and
why is everybody mad at Jeanie Buss. We'll try to
figure that out.
All right, we continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on
a five to seventy LA Sports. A reminder the media
in Los Angeles will officially meet Roki Sazaki three o'clock.
We will have that for you here on the radio station,
and David Vasse will be out there joining us. Now.
Our dear friend from the LA Times who just does
a terrific job every day, Jack Harris, who covers the Dodgers,
(00:23):
and Jack welcome back to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hey, how you guys doing.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
We're doing well. Jack, you nailed it this morning. What
a great piece on what went on behind the scenes
and the recruiting that went on to get Sazaki first.
How long did it take you to find all that information.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Out in real time? Probably not as fast as I
would like. There is a lot of it wasn't quite
the level of Otani free agency secrecy. But yeah, I
think teams were being pretty cautious about sharing, you know,
too much about what was going on in their respective
(01:01):
recruiting processes and how they were trying to make their
pitches for a Kisusaki. But I think afterwards, you know,
obviously people around the Dodgers involved in their pitch process
were pretty pleased with how it went down, with the
message that they got across, and you know, ultimately being
able to land this picture that they've coveted for the
(01:21):
last several years.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Here and Jack, let's be let's be honest. The Dodgers
have with this process, did everything above board. You know,
there are people out there that suggesting that they didn't.
And there's you know, there's other folks that saying they're
manipulating the rules of of MLB with the deferral payments
(01:43):
and all that stuff, to the point where there's a
bill in the state trying to trying to stop what
the Dodgers have done. But they've done everything under the
rules of MLB. But this happens.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
This happens all the time if you're whether you're a
four player or not. But there it happens. Recruitment happens
with guys.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
If you're familiar with somebody, you can say, yeah, hey,
i'm an let's go to dinner. If you have Mooie
Betts and you got a buddy who's really really good,
you gotta go to dinner and say, hey, why don't
you come be a Dodgers. There's nothing wrong with that.
Why are people so up and arms. Is it because
it's the Dodgers And obviously the Yankees went through this too,
But now that the Dodgers have spent money, people are jealous.
(02:27):
Other owners are jealous now because it feels like it's
coming for the other owners.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I mean, I think generally this offseason, when it's come
to the money the Dodgers have spent, the way they've
used these big deferral, big signing bonus contracts to land
star players, it's created some consternation around the league about,
you know, can anybody compete with them? And I think
most people would point back and say, look, what the
Dodgers are doing is is what you'd expect a team
like the Dodgers to do that makes as much money
(02:54):
and has as many resources as they do. And it's
up to the other teams to find ways to compete
with them. And then when it came to the Roki
Sasaki free agency specifically, you know, this is something that
I know obviously has been talked about a lot publicly
over the last couple of weeks, this idea that maybe
the Dodgers had a handshake deal, maybe they had some
sort of advantage in this This is something that people
(03:16):
around the sport had been speculating about, even going back
to the last offseason, when it looked like for a minute,
Roki Susaki might come over to the big leagues last year.
And yeah, to some people, there was this idea that,
you know, the Dodgers were going to get him, not
just because they were the most logical landing place and
the best fit, but because maybe something below board had happened. Now,
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before MLB even approved Roki Susaki's posting to where he
would be allowed to sign with big league teams, they
did investigate some of this stuff. They didn't find any
evidence to corroborate it. They even poked around with Sasaki's
Japanese team to make because obviously they didn't get it's
like a one point six million dollar posting fee out
(04:01):
of this, to make sure there was no you know,
illegal kickback scheme or something like that. So there's been
a lot of chatter about this, but as far as
you know, people with the league are concerned, they haven't
seen any evidence or anything else to suggest that this
didn't play out in a fair and proper way. I
think when you look at how it did play out,
you know, because Rokie, in consultation with MLB, ended up
(04:23):
signing in the twenty twenty five signing period. It put
the Dodgers in a little bit of a financial disadvantage
because they had the smallest signing pool with which to
try to pursue him out of any team in the
big leagues. And obviously we're able to overcome that in
a couple other ways. And you know, in this situation,
money wasn't the number one factor. So yeah, this has
been something that's been talked about a lot with this
specific situation and then against the backdrop of all the
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other spending that the Dodgers are doing. But you know,
if you talk to people with the Dodgers will say, look,
we're just I think Andrew Freeman said it earlier this offseason.
We look at this as rewarding our fan base and
taking the resources that we have and the money they've
made off of all their on field success and trying
to reinvest it back in the team to be as
good as they can be moving into the future.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Jack Harris at the Times is with us. All right, Jack,
if you would through your reporting, because on that piece
was great. Today, let's talk about the initial meeting and
what you learned was part of the homework assignment for
each team, and then the second meeting when players were
allowed because you wrote about them both.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, so I think the Dodger pitch in this situation
kind of played out in two ways. There was this focus,
especially in the initial meeting, on you know, pitching development,
player development, what teams could do for Rokie. He assigned them, Yes,
this homework assignment now as his agent termed it, which
is basically asking teams to identify why they thought his
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past ball velocity dropped off a little bit last year
from you know, ninety eight ninety nine outs like ninety
six ninety seven, and what they would do to try
to fix it. This is something that the Dodgers felt,
as I wrote about, like, was kind of in their
sweet spot right for all the problems that they've had
with pitching injuries, they are really good at helping pitchers
develop stuff and maximize their talent and be the best
(06:08):
versions of themselves. So that was always going to be
something that in addition to you know the prestige of
playing for the Dodgers and the chance to compete for
a World Series and all the other selling points that
they had. I think there was a pretty big focus
on Hey, if you want to become the kind of
player you think you can be, we are the best
place for you to do that. Then that was all
(06:29):
backed up by the actual messaging from the players.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Some of this started with shohey O Tani and Yoshinobu
Yamamoto's personal relationships with them, as I wrote about, like
they took them out to a dinner early in the process.
Tyler glasnow talked about the message he sent Roki during this,
which was, hey, if you you know, whatever your motivations are,
the Dodgers of the place that can help you, you know,
achieve everything you want to. And then yeah, last week
(06:53):
the team had their second meeting with him. He granted
meetings to his three finalists where he went in person
and to see each of them. And then the Dodgers
case they because of the renovations going out of the stadium,
they had it at one of their co owners' houses.
They had a sushi dinner, but the big crux of
that event was having a handful of players there in person.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Mookie Betts stood up and gave this long speech about
the special place that Los Angeles and the Dodgers have become,
you know, in the second half of his career. Will
Smith was there talking about the pitcher catcher dynamics and
you know, all of that goes into that with the team.
The team got videos from a lot of the players
who couldn't attend in person talking about, you know, how
(07:37):
much they've enjoyed the Dodgers, why they thought it was
a great place, you know, telling him how excited they
were at the possibility of playing with him. And I
think the people around the team that were involved in
this process, it was that ability to take what they
felt like was a strong message on paper and then
have it backed up by so many star players and
big voices, and then obviously sho hee Otani himself, who
(07:57):
was the person who could most closely relate to the
experience that Sasaki was going through this in this entire
posting process. People around the team thought that that really
helped their their message land that it resonated with Roki.
You know, Mooki bet is in Japan right now on
a promotional tour actually, but was talking about this with
reporters there and said, you know, even during that dinner,
(08:19):
he could just tell how much Roki, you know, is
going to enjoy playing with Otani and Yamamoto. And I
think especially with Otani, that was a question coming into this,
right that Rokie Susaki said, I want to be the
number one player in the world, and it was fair
to wonder did he feel like he could do that
if he's playing with the current best player in the
world and show hey Otani and maybe being in his
shadows someone and being around all the attention that comes
(08:42):
with it, and I think being able to have all
of the players help deliver that message, you know, attest
to the kind of place that the Dodgers organization is
to play again to people around the team. They felt
like that was a really big part of helping them
land their message and ultimately why Rokey Susaki is going
to be introduced here in a couple flowers at Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Jack, do you know anything about who was at the
other meetings for the other clubs or how those went?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, they had players there too, I think obviously with
the padres, you know, there were videos of some players
being around. There was the the U Darvish connection that
he had with Roki Saki is something that you know,
a lot of people in the sport, especially as it
got closer to his, you know, his decision. There was
a lot of buzz about the Padres feeling confident, feeling
like that Darvish relationship in particular, you know, was going
(09:29):
to be a plus for them. It seems like, especially
among the three finalists, each of them you know, were
able to present something that really struck Rokie Soaki. You know,
obviously he hasn't talked about this publicly yet. We'll probably
learn more about, you know, what some of the de
factors were for him at the end. But when it
came to the Dodgers again, like on paper, they checked
(09:52):
so many boxes for what it seemed like would matter
to Roki Sisaki in his future. And yeah, when you
can back to up with just the star power that
the Dodgers have, obviously, the players that already knew him personally,
all the other big names that could talk about, you know,
why they've enjoyed playing for the team so much. You know,
it's it's easy when you kind of look back at
(10:14):
all of this on totality now to see, yeah, that
that probably makes for a pretty compelling pitch for for
somebody who has followed MLB for a long time, has followed,
you know, what happens in the league pretty closely, and
getting to hear all that firsthand, I'm sure ended up
being a pretty key factor and why he ultimately picked
the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Hey, Jack, With all that being said, how how real
do you believe the other two teams had a shot
when it's all said, given the history, given the players
that we talked about, given the relationships communication with Sazaki
and Yamamoto and Otani, the Dodgers as a whole, as
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an organization, because a lot of people believe in and
like you talked about, we talked about that that this
may have been done before, and it was like, you know,
Dodgers had had a handshake deal in the past. How
much do you believe that that the other team's actually
had a shot to land him?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I mean, it seems like they felt pretty confident to
various levels. I think the Padres all along like their chances.
Mike Schilp during the winter meetings spoke pretty bluntly about
you know, I really think that we have a good
shot with Rokie, and obviously the Darvish piece of it
fueled a lot of their their optimism as well. And
then with the Blue Jays, you know, that was the
surprise team included in his list of finalists. They felt
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strong enough to, you know, a few hours before he
announced his decision to go out and acquire a bad
contract in Miles Straw to be able to get a
couple million more in signing bonus money to try to
to woo him with. So, you know, I think the
actions of the teams kind of speak to the fact that, Wow,
a lot of people in the sport always kind of
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thought the Dodgers would end up with Roki Sasaki at
various points of this process, I think other teams did
feel confident or at least did feel like they had
a real shot at getting him, And on the flip side,
you know, people with the Dodgers were ever certain that
they were getting him. I think kind of similar to
how Shoheo Tani's free agency played out last year, where
they always liked their chances and you know, if you're
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reading some of the tea leaves, it might have looked good,
but they didn't know up until the very end, until
they made his decision that they were getting him for sure.
So yeah, I think it at different points of all this,
there were teams that felt like they had a real
shot at getting him, but all along, again, there was
a reason why so many people thought the Dodgers were
favorites in this, and I think ultimately why he ended
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up being in l A.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, they were getting them all along, Jack, you want
to cut should we slice it and dice it and
just get right to it. They were getting them all along,
right and.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Sit on this Miles Straw contract. Now, Like I was
texting the people in the industry about that, and it's
just you know, at that time, there was a lot
of like surprise that, wow, Toronto's doing this. This must
mean that either they think they're getting him or they
think they might not be, but they still have a
shot too. So you know, I think some of those
things I think did surprise people that maybe this was
a little bit more of a competitive process than they
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were figuring. Even if you know, he ends up with
the Dodgers in the end.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Two things about that, First, while you got a dog
Miles Straw, maybe Toronto really loved them, maybe that's their guy.
And second of all, maybe yeah, And second of all,
how about this, Maybe it's the surprise in people the
Blue Jays maybe it surprised them, but nobody else because
you know something, nobody takes their money. Think about it,
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the Tati debacle of last year. The people there hate
him and he didn't do anything to him. They're gonna
hateazaki now too. They're gonna hate him now.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I would imagine, Yeah, I would imagine. Maybe not at
the level like if we go back to the Hockey
Hall of Fame, I don't think he's gonna be on
like the don't let this guy in list of the
other you know, shoplifters or whatever. But but yes, that
was That was one of the subplots of all is
like the poor poor Blue Jay fans who had to
endure all of this and back to back years to
watch these players end.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Up in l A. Yeah, well you know what, Jack,
just tell everybody were sick of their whining. How do
you like that? Let everybody know we are we're not
putting up with it. Jack enough, great job, man, you
you you you're all over that just terrific work.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
As always appreciate it, guys, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Right, we'll talk to you. There was our buddy, uh
Jack Harrits at the times he really does a good job.
He really does. Yeah, he does. And you know, honestly, well,
there might have been a surprise. You know, people might think, hey,
there might be something here, maybe in Toronto. I don't know.
Maybe Dean Spanos thought the Chargers were gonna win. Maybe,
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but they weren't. And at the end of it, when
you and still got here. But at the end of it,
when you look at it and you just look at it,
there was one place he was coming. I kept saying that, yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
And you know what, two friends on that if if
he didn't end up and say he ends up in
Toronto or he's in San Diego, it would have been
one of those.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
God, I could have been a Dodger, you said, even
outside of it, yes, outside people, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
What are you doing? You know what I mean? It
would be like what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
If people that don't even know baseball be like, wait,
let me get this straight. You got a chance to
be a Dodger, a Padre, or a Blue Jay, and
you chose the Padres, and you chose you chose the
Blue Jays over the Dodgers to play on that team
that's gonna be in the world series every single year
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and as the best organization. What come on, what gives gif?
Come on? Come on, man, come on, man, come on,
who's got a gun to your head?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Come on? Yeah, and that's why it made zero sense.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, it made really Really did the other teams believe
that they were actually in the mix?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Did they really actually believe that they had a chance. Well,
Mike Schild during the winter meetings, the povery manager, we
think we're really in it. Well you're really not.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
You're done, and you never really wear right and you
never really wear right.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
You never were in that. Look, every team should do
whatever they can and sign whoever they can and be
the best they can. But what are we doing? It's
like you said, Rodney, if you don't sign here with
Otani and yeah, all of the stuff. People were saying, Oh,
I don't think you want to live in the shadow.
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We can't have that. That's not who he is. I mean,
what are you doing? Come on, you would have for
the rest of your life. You'd have to answer that
question exactly what we think?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
What were you thinking as you watch the Dodgers when
World series after World series go to LEDCs and all
those things and be on TV every single week. You're
gonna have to sit back and go. I turned that down.
I turned that down. What am I thinking?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Right? There was just family witness on him. Yeah, there's
no way, and that's why he ended up here. I
heard something last night and it was a perception I
think many people have of the Dodgers. We're gonna let
you hear that next. So how do people around the
country feel about the Dodgers and what they're doing. Well,
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we see social media and we read the stories. Got
some audio that we're gonna let you hear next. Oh yeah,
up day.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Rodney Pete Fred Rogan on a Wednesday. Come on, now, come.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
On, Rodney had to people around the country feel when
you hear the Dodgers. Now, I told you they are
the villains of sport. I'm not talking about baseball. I'm
talking about every sport. It's a a much respected moniker
to acquire. People are so envious and jealous. You become
the villain, and again you have to win it on
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the field. All they've done is put themselves in position
to win it again and to be in the conversation.
So I'm on X last night and I see a post.
I think it was from w f A N in
New York. And if it is in fact that it's
a number one sport okay, good, number one sports station
of the biggest market in the country. That's kind of
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a powerhouse, a boomer, just like we are, Rodney. They're
killing it. And two of the people on are talking
about the Dodgers. This came out of New York last night.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Listen, he's got Dodgers just signed Kirby pretty soon. How
many rosters that I have?
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Enough?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
My god, what is going on here?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Guys? Get beat you?
Speaker 5 (19:12):
How many guys did the Dodgers get? They get, Tanner's
got and kirbyates?
Speaker 6 (19:17):
Who else?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
This is amazing what they've done.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Soasaki tanner'scott worn enough now even Kirby ATE's like, what
are we doing? I understand how they're doing it. Just
every player that's available that's decent is going to the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Hundred and fifteen wins.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
There's not gonna be any underbelly of the Dodgers roster.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I'm betting the under on principle, I'm betting the under.
I'm betting the pants off of the under. One hundred
and fifteen wins. No, something will go wrong. I just
don't believe that you could build a team like that
and have sixty What.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
The next move is comingtable? They introduced the first million
dollar bat boy. That is where it's going. The guy
in the warm up the pictures, he's signed two point
seven million dollars deal.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I think you just found piece next role maybe.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
And there you go, Edie, let me tell you this. Hey,
I'm ready for our j RJ is sitting pretty now.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
You gonna be the first million dollar clubby That's what
I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Hey, listen, I'm glad they had some levity with that
because they're in New York. They understand, and they better
not be jealous because that's the way people felt about
them for years. They were the evil empire that had
more money than anybody else and spent it. And there's
teams that over the years in all sports that have money,
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they just don't spend it. They're just cheap. And the
Dodgers are spending it again. But it doesn't guarantee you
you win it all, but it does guarantee you gonna
be in that conversation. What's crazy is that? Imagine Imagine
what Oklahoma City's gonna be like, imagine that triple A
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franchise and how good that franchise is going to be,
and the players that are coming through there or just
playing there just kind of, you know, biding their time,
waiting their time. Oklahoma City. Oklahoma City, they might draw
better than Cincinnati Fred based on the prospects, based on
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the people that are playing in Oklahoma City. They may
draw better than Cincinnati and Pittsburgh. Yeah, they may have
better records too. And if you're trying them out there,
they probably went two out of three in a series
they could.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, I just loved because we kind of touched on it,
but I thought they did a great job. Are there
any players left for the Dodgers to sign? Because they
sign every single person they want.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Just think about that, Like the guy said, how many
roster spots do they have? What I'm saying, like, the
Dodgers farm system is gonna be loaded because everybody can't
be on the big league club, you know, So there's
gonna have to be placed, is for these guys to
And they don't want you guys just sitting either, so
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they gonna want guys to be playing, pitching, hitting.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
All those things. So those minor league rosters are gonna
be stacked, stacked. But again, like he said, how.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Many do they have more roster spots than everybody else?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I thought he did a great job of explaining that,
because honestly, I was thinking the same thing every time
they sign somebody. How many guys can they sign? Yeah? Yeah,
how many? Because in the fact, it seems like they
signed whoever they want.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
When he said the Dodgers just signed Kirby Yates, He's like, oh.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It was like that laugh, like.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Oh, Gody, this this is incredible. This is incredible. Do
you think that's a good thing? I mean, obviously there's
there's always pressure, and the Dodgers have handled it well,
especially Dave Roberts has handled the pressure well of everybody
expecting them to win and and win one hundred games
plus every year and then go on and cruise to
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the World Series. But the pressure now is like no other. Right,
It's like, come on, come on. If you don't win
three in a row, two in a row at least,
and something wrong, it is going to be it might
be the toughest year for the Dodgers because everyone, I
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mean every team out there is going and We've said
this in the past. Every team is going to play
their best against the Dodgers, and the Dodgers is going to.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Get everybody's best every single series starting the season. If
I was the Dodgers, I'd just start laughing. I wouldn't
I would start laughing. I would be so confident, so confident.
I wouldn't laugh at people, but I would just laugh
at what people are saying.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Well, you got to get ready for it because people, Yeah,
people are going to be, you know, very talkative. But
as soon as Dodger's going a three game losing streak,
you know, the sky's gonna fall.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Look, they said the over under what they say?
Speaker 3 (24:10):
The guys said, I'm waiting the record on Seattle had
the record? What was the record when it was one
fifteen or when sixteen? We're going to look it up.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Uh So he said he's taking the under on principle.
I said this at the beginning of last season, so
I'm gonna say it again. I don't care how many
games I win means nothing to me, absolutely nothing. At
least it's got to be one hundred, though, Fred I
don't care one hundred when ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
They don't win one hundred, Fred, and then something's off a
little bit, don't you.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Think, Rodney, you know what's off? Nothing until they get
to the playoffs. Are they giving games away? No?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I mean yeah, so they should win just on just
on trotting out there. What they got is you win
one hundred games. Now after that you can say debate, Well,
we're resting guys, or we're trying guys at new spots,
we're gonna not gonna pitch, we're gonna do bullpen sessions,
we're gonna do all these things. But I think one
hundred is a threshold where you could do one hundred
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with this roster in your sleep.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Uh what?
Speaker 6 (25:14):
One sixteen, by the way, is the record for the
Seattle Mariners that tied the Cubs in nineteen o six.
By the way, so that was the two thousand and
one Marritors. Right now, the couple of sportsbooks I'm seeing
for the Dodgers over under is one hundred and three
and a half. I do not see one fifteen, all right.
Between one hundred and three and a half and one
hundred and three is kind of what I'm seeing right now.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, and here and here's the thing, and I hear
you get they got to want a hundred.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
On that bet the farm on a on the over
on that one. Don't you right now that dumb is
only gonna go up. The number will go up. I agree, yeah, yeah,
the number go up, But I don't care.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
We learned last year the years before, during the regular season,
you're thinking these guys are invincible, and then they laid
an egg last year at the right time. They got pushed,
they got challenged, they got hot, and they wanted And really,
when you've signed Otani and Yamamoto and Sazaki and Mookie
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Betts and Freddie Freeman doted the exclamation point for this argument,
Freddie Freeman, when you're signing guys like that, they're only
here for one reason. Yeah, They're here to put you
in the seats at Dodger Stadium for eighty one games.
They're here for you to ooh and ah over how
incredibly talented they are. They're here to win in the playoffs.
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That's why they're here. That's it. Really, you are paying
all of that money to all of those people for
exactly one reason, the playoffs. Because when you make that
kind of money, and I made this argument last year,
when you make that kind of money. You've got to
perform in the biggest spots. Well, they're human beings. It
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doesn't matter. That's why you're paid. You're a human being.
Then work for the minimum and nobody expects anything of you. Well,
people have a bad game, and they do, except then
you need to perform. That's it. That's why all those
guys are paid. And it worked last year. It worked
Freddie Freeman, who struggled during the regular season, who had
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a bad ankle. Thank god his son is okay. It
was not a typical gold star Freddy Freeman season got
to the playoffs. Whole new ball game. Then, wasn't it
whole new game? Then? Yeah, buddy, it was so everything
he did during the regular season, which was not typical
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Freddie Freeman when he got to the playoffs, that's why
he got paid. Oh, Tony didn't have the greatest playoff series.
He came up with a couple of big hits, but
I think you can argue it wasn't the greatest playoff series.
He'll be more adjusted this year. He won't be his
app to just start swinging or chasing as he did.
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And maybe it was the big stage in that arena
because he's used to performing in big stages. But maybe
he was a litt uncomfortable. Okay, they got over that.
Mookie Bets. Mookie Bets couldn't hit his hat size in
the playoffs a couple of years ago. Couldn't, Sorry, didn't.
People are gonna, what the hell's wrong with Mookie? Nothing?
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Thank you? Oh, nothing's wrong with Mookie. You saw what
he did. So when people are saying, well they want
one hundred and three, they won one hundred and twelve.
I don't care how many games they won, good luck
to everybody. Everybody should win whatever they want. All those
guys get paid to play in October. First they get
paid to get to October. Then they get paid to
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play in October, and anything along the way is fun
and exciting. And we want everybody to be the best
at every position. But that's why they get paid. That's
why they have ten pitchers. Now, could their pitching staff
could be ten people? Do you really need ten pitchers? Well,
last year they could have used twelve. But yeah, that's
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the thing.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Last year they looked up and go, man, we ran
into a situation and thank god it worked out because
we had to rely on our bullpen who turned in
turned out to be lights out. But can you imagine
anyone else with the injuries that were specifically targeted towards
the pitching staff, and how you have to overcome that
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as a Dodger and as an organization. You can have
Freddie Freeman and Mookie Betts and Otani and all those guys,
but if you're giving up nine ten runs a game, Fred,
you still you're not gonna win. And so yeah, the
bullpen and the pitching staff and the coaches and Mark
Pryor and all those guys, they all need a raise
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because what they did last year with a depleted and
injured pitching staff was nothing but incredible, nothing but incredible.
So yeah, that was the focus of this offseason and
they got it done. And so now they're insulated. But again,
they ain't enough spots for everybody, Fred, they have too
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many players.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
And that's a good problem to have. Just ask Gavin Lux, Oh,
I'm sorry he was traded.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Hey, Freddy, come on, fred why Wow?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I'm sorry? Why no? I remember Brendon Gomes. That's a
good problem to have. Remember that, That's what he said,
that's a good problem to have. He did well. They
fixed the problem. But you brought up.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Gavin Lux and I know he's sick because this is
where he was drafted, this is where he was groomed,
this is where he wanted to be.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Injury really set him back.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
But he came on last year and had some big
moments and he's not going to be part of this
next run. But he did get his ring, which was
really cool and we wish him the best.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
But man, you know he wants to still be here.
All right? Who would you rather be right now? You
can be one of these two people you pick. You
can be Gavin Lux or Micel Rojas. Come on, would
you rather be right now? Now?
Speaker 3 (31:10):
You took me back to the visual Migo in that
Chicago White Sox dugout.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Man Vargus, Miguel Vargus bargains, bargains, bargains.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, come on, man, no, no, you don't want you
don't want to be with the White Sox.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
They're going absolutely nowhere fast. And so you see for
Gavin Lux, it's a good thing. Mm hm that you
thought that was a shot at Gavin Lucks. I was
celebrating his new Uh, Gavin Lucks got two rings. He's
good to go.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
And but again, man, you want, you want five, you
want six rings? You want you want to build that
be a part of that dynasty and be a part
of that winning culture and winning program.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
It's uh, it's tough, man, It's tough.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
But again, all the people complaining and chastising the Dodgers
for doing what they're doing. Namely, if you're a fan
of any fan base around the country, aren't you, I mean,
you're not angry, You're more envious. It's like, I wish
our ownership would do what the Dodgers are doing. You
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have to be well if you're smart, I don't get mad.
Don't get mad, go complain to your ownership. Why are
we not doing this? I read somewhere, I saw somewhere,
I heard whatever I did. Like the Marlins. Their payroll
is like fifty million dollars or less than that. And
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there are a few other teams that you know, I
think second or last is the Sacramento A's. I mean
they have any shot to win it all? No at
A at a.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Thirty million dollar payroll? No, come on, man, what are
we doing?
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Don't short change in Rodney they have a forty two
million dollars pay roll.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
The Mimmy Marusan. Okay, the Marlins had forty two.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Forty two million, and the Oakland whatever they're called, Oakland
Sacramento fifty four million.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Oh see, Now both those teams could win their division
this year. I mean when they've up their payroll to that.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
I will say the Rays come in at number twenty
eight out of thirty teams at fifty nine. But you
always say, it's not how much. It's not how much
you spend, is how you spend it, to your point, Fred,
and they find their way to be competitive every single year.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
That's true. But is that right?
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Yes, this is cool. This is according to sport Track.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, I was listening to something this morning where they
were running down the different teams in their payrolls, and
so the Dodgers at three seventy and the next the
next team is not even over three.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
Now, this might not have been fully updated over the
last couple of weeks or so, because right now it
has a Dodgers at two hundred and seventy four. It's
not Yeah, so it's not fully updated. But now, so
you haven't heard about Miami going on some giants spinning
spree this offseason, so it's not gonna it's not that
far off of where it is right now.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Are you telling me? In totality show? Hey, o, Tani
makes double the payroll of the Sacramento Ads.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Yes, fifty four point one million dollars. That's almost hit
the A. The a's payroll for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
So one player makes more money than the entire team
in Sacramento, or for that part Miami is Actually he's
at seventy million though, right, Yeah, but I'm saying he's
if he's saying there payroll is fifty four million. Yeah,
he much further than all of them, the whole team.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Well, with his deferrals, technically he doesn't well yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
That's yeah, but on paper he does.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, mean on paper without the deferrals, he's a seventy
million dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Guy, I mean, what do they defer in Miami fifteen
cents a year with a payroll thirty nine million dollars
or whatever it was, We're going to defer twenty five
dollars a year, That's what When you hear that, that's
all you need to know. And your point, Rodne need
to finish this. Your point, well, people shouldn't be mad,
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but they are. They are mad. Well, they should be
mad at their own ownership. Well they're not. They're not,
because that's how people think. They're sheep. They get in
the flock and they follow. Dodgers are bad. You're damn right.
I agree. Everybody should hate them. I hate them. They're villains.
They spend too much money, they cheat, they abuse the rules,
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they find loopholes. We hate them. That's what it is.
The majority of people don't even look deeply into anything
to understand what's happening. They just say, now, no, if
I got a feeling, given what's gonna happen this year,
they're gonna hate him even more. Oh, they gonna hate them.
Hell oh oh, oh, all right, do you know? Uh ching.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Go twenty eight and one to start the season, Fred, Yeah,
everybody's gonna hate him.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Oh, they're gonna hate him. It doesn't matter. They're gonna
really hit him. You know, Chen Wine Winong, Chen Winong.
You know who that is? How do I know? And
you're not even pronouncing it right, Winong? He's Chad Winong
chen Winong. No, I don't know who that is. Okay,
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well he's a doctor and uh well, ready set snip.
We'll we'll talk about that. Come on, yoh, it's a
home take.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan And unfortunately there are some a
new fire that broke out north on the five off
the five Stag Lake area. Be careful if you're traveling north,
going home or wherever you're going, please please be careful.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I don't know what's going on in the Oxnard, Ventura area,
but my son Josh is out there. Showed some video
and those guys look nasty out there. Yeah they are. Yeah, yeah,
so be careful, all right. So look, I don't want
to get too personal. It's a story about plastic surgeon
(37:21):
Chen wine On. I think we all know who he is.
Accomplished in his field of endeavor. Yeah yeah, Okay, show
a hands who's out of a sectomy looking around checking
it out. Nothing to be shy about. I mean I
had one years ago. I actually went on the air
(37:44):
at fifteen forty to ticket during the procedure and describe
what was going on. Sure, it's not the most pleasant
thing you'll ever go through. But if you have a
trained professional handle it, and you know you'd make that decision,
you make the decision. Yeah. The one thing I would
think the one thing if you have someone operating on
that type of equipment, they need to be very skilled,
(38:08):
very focused, and there's very not a lot of room
or margin of error. You know, one thing the wrong way,
it's gonna go south on you, and that's gonna be
bad south on you. Yeah, for any number of reasons. Well,
look doctor Wangong plastic surgeon again, doctor wine On, win
(38:34):
On On think he said, wang On, Well, that's what
I thought it was originally, which would have made it funnier,
but it's win On. Anyway, he decided that he was
gonna have a vasectomy, okay, and then he decided, look,
this should be an educational process. So what I'm gonna
(38:56):
do is I'm actually going to record it and then
what I'm going to do is play it for people,
because there's nothing to be embarrassed about or anything. This
is good. It's good that people know how to do it.
We did do your own, how do well, we'll get
to me right, Okay. It's good that people know the
(39:18):
procedure right, and the procedure right. I'm gonna put that
up informational informational sure, like going to Harvard Med. Yeah,
all right, the issue became he wasn't really having a vseectomy.
He was giving himself a a sectomy. He himself was
(39:40):
performing the vasectomy on him which, to me, right off
the bat says he might be one of the most
flexible people you'll ever meet in your life.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
At least, how do you do that on yourself? As
you mentioned Fred, first of all, you got to be
the most flexible person in the world. But then it
begs the question as to why why would you want
(40:18):
to perform this procedure on yourself.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
It shows the surgeon in his chair performing the operation
on himself as he casually talks viewers through the process
as if he was doing a makeup too, torol.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Is he trying to make to think that people can Hey, listen, folks,
you can do this yourself if you just follow this video.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Well apparently he thinks that. Now here's what you need
if you want to try that. First you need some
You need something to anesthesize your genitals and numb them.
So he applied that cream to himself. Then he used
(41:01):
to scallopol and a surgical clamp and went to work.
Oh my god, suit your death thing up ten to
thirty minutes It's kind of like making a quick meal.
You know, you look online and I like to make chicken.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Say it was a quick snip snip, Yeah, I'd like
to make chicken minutes.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Is that what we said? Ten to thirty minutes. I'd
like to make chicken cord on blue in twenty minutes. Well,
this is the same thing. I'd like to give myself
a vasectomy in twenty minutes. Well, this guy makes it simple.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
No need to go to the hospital, go see it
surgeon or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Just do it yourself. Yeah, he can handle it. You know,
it's kind of like going to lowos. Social media has
really ruined the world.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Because you know, you know there will be a number
of people that try to do this themselves.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Oh yeah, no, well you go, what are you gonna
see yourself?
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Hell but if somebody tries this based on his tutorial, well.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
He's not tenant goes wrong to it. He's just saying
you could do it like this. Now here's one thing
that I didn't mention. Am I bad? You know, things
could go wrong, even in a short procedure like this,
Something could happen. There was one point in time where
he looked to be an excruciating pain, you think, listen,
(42:30):
I don't question the work of doctor. Why not excruciating pain?
But what he did he leaned back in his chair
in apparent pain. Then he gathered his tools and resumed
the operation. I'm not sure exactly what they were referring.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
To as tools. And this is all visual online. You
can go check this out.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah, Kevin, see if you can find it. How about you?
Speaker 6 (43:02):
How about you goa find it?
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Fred?
Speaker 6 (43:03):
I'm Okayikes, you have all the information that you need
in the article.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
You have his name. I want to see it now.
I'm gonna look at it.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
I really want to see if you're a male, do
you really want to see that? I'm gonna look it up.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
By the way, most commenters praise the self sufficient surgeon
for his bravery. I bet they did. Glad it ain't
me what they said? Better you than me? Fred, Well,
all right, during the break, I will look up on
the I'm gonna look it up right now, Dan, like
(43:40):
you joined us. Next, we'll talk about the Lakers and
why is everybody mad at Jeanie Buss. We'll try to
figure that out.
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