5/31 H2: Dan Woike; Should USC schedule easier opponents?

Dan Woike hops on to update us on the Lakers' head coaching search. Should USC consider scheduling easier non-conference oppoents now that they are in the Big 10?

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Ellie continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Peeteon five seventy LA Sports. Uh,
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You'll have an opportunity to go.All right, Now, we've got the
NBA Finals set, we have Lakernews we must discuss, and there is

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only one man we can do thatwith, the esteemed Dan Wiki, our
insider from the LA Times. Dan, how are you today? I'm feeling
very esteemed, you know, Ithink you should. It's like one of
those like kind of like nice thisthis is like my favorite climate day.
I'm sitting outside of a coffee shoppinglong beach of your year, some traffic

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and it's like it's I can wearlike like warm clothes on top and like
shorts on the bottom. I lovethat. It's my favorite's top of the
shorts on the bottom. Huh,that's crazy. That's the look we're going
for, like early morning tea timeyet I have that cool. Yeah,

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you gotta be warm in the morning, but so you can take it off
in the afternoon. Yeah, yougotta be ready. You gotta be ready.
Look at that man. All right, Dan, let's get started with
the NBA Finals first. I understandit's television driven. We've all done this
for one hundred years. Don't youthink this is a little absurd this many
days off before they actually start playingthe finals? Yeah, I mean it

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is not ideal, right, LikeI think on one hand, right,
like ultimately, like it should helpthe oncourt product, right, like Christap
Sporzingis, it's an extra time forhim to get healthy, different things like
that. But no, I wantto like keep it going, right like
like these games. It's been kindof an interesting playoffs, guys. A
lot of blowouts, but a lotof like really like kind of like fun

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performances too, in like really interestingseries and interesting games. I will want
to see these two teams play,you know, And I would also like
to just officially close the book onlike the previous seas that move on to
what's next, and the NBA iskind of like, nah, see you
June sixth, see you in aweek, which and then this is just

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you have to do it because it'snot just TV though to Fred it's I
mean, it's buildings, right,and it's like you have to like you
have to lock in these dates tomake sure that like you know, like
BTS isn't coming through town or somebodylike that, you know what I mean,
you have to really no, absolutely, like you'll get K Pop right
out of it. You'll be playingyou'll be playing at Marist instead of the

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Guard. So like, yeah,I mean I think that's that's why you
lock all this stuff in and youfix it to dates. And it's just
like you know, in a perfectworld, your conference finals are more competitive
and they go deeper. Does thisdoes this hurt Dan? Though? I
mean, uh, first, we'llget your take on the on the teams,
but but does this hurt the theaverage fan or not even the kind

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of lukewarm fan. I know youand I are fans. We're fans of
the NBA. We're gonna watch.Yeah, like you just said, but
that that general person that's out there, the fact that it's this much time
off, is it gonna hurt thatfan base. That's just like I thought
it was over. Now I'm noteven gonna win. When does it start
again? I can't catch up withit? Yeah, I don't think so.

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I mean if there was maybe likeyou know, just like a plethora
of like other stuff going on,you know right now, like if it
was like, oh, I'm gonnalose myself in college football or I'm gonna
lose myself in this, you know, but like we're still so early in
the baseball season, right, Like, I mean, what is it OTAs
are going to distract the average trandfrom the NBA Finals? I think like

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if you're watching the finals, you'rewatching the finals probably either way. I
just think it's more of a momentumthing, you know, like like in
a way like you know, isthis good for the league? And the
way that you know that extra weekbetween the Super Bowl and the conference championships
at times can be good for theNFL where you're just like you have to
fill the time. So you justtalk about like you know, we're going
to talk a lot about Kyrie irvingover the next week, and about a

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time in Boston and kind of thetrade that's the Dallas in this image and
all of this stuff. And it'slike, is that good? Does that
drum up interest or does that causefatigue? I don't know. I think
generally three. I think the averagefanne'l find it one way or the other.
Right, like the finals or thefinals, like it's gonna be something

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you you're probably either gonna watch oryou weren't gonna watch. And if it
was on it started on Saturday,you'd be there. And if it starts
a week from Saturday, you'll probablybe there. Then two, Dan wi
is with, uh, all right, Dan, let's move to the Lakers
now, you know, And Ilove this the reporting. And it's funny
when you've done this as long aswe all have and you hear the same

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thing every year, it just makesyou go insane to to trains of thought.
First, here's what we gotta do. We're gonna go out and we're
gonna find a third star. We'regonna get a Tray Younger, a Donovan
Mitchell, and we're gonna do that. Or or the reporting we need depth
we can't fool around with a thirdstar, And in the reporting, Lebron

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seems to indicate he would rather havea team with depth than a third star.
I think from what we have gonethrough, we know depth is more
important than the third star. Soif that's the case, why are we
agonizing over this? Well, soI think I think Fred, generally speaking,

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you're right. I think if welook around the league and look at
teams that have had success, andlook, Boston has three stars, I
mean they really have, I meanfour, you know they Minnesota certainly has
three stars. Uh yeah, yeah, Dallas has I mean Dallas, Dallas
has two. Right, Like they'rea little bit of an outlier in that

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sense. But look like not allstars are created equal to right, Like,
when you're paying these guys max moneywhere they are at what stage in
their career, without like going likeway down the salary cap hole. I
mean, like there's just a differencebetween paying Jason Tatum at twenty seven and
Lebron James at thirty seven, Likea significant financial difference between those two numbers.

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And when you're paying older max players, it's just like fiscally, it's
harder to add a third one tothat group, right, Like, it
puts you up against things like thesecond Apron. It limits your ability to
use exceptions. You know, youunbalanced your roster. I think, like
look at Phoenix, there's like areally good example, you know, and
it's just you end up playing threequote unquote stars and then you know,

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largely like a bunch of minimum players, and it's just it's a really hard
way to win. The Lakers couldn'tdo it with Russell Westbrook, Anthony Davis,
and Lebron James. That all beingsaid, Fred, if the right
star was available, yeah, ata cost, the Lakers felt that was
palatable. Uh, there's no doubtin my mind that that's the road they
would go down. I don't thinkthat. I don't think that guy totally

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exists. So it is like areally so basically right, like, what
what that would look like is theLakers trading like their best offer, their
best offer they can put out onthe table and sort of a fun thought
exercises like you can trade Austin Reeves, you can trade your number seventeen pick

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this year's draft, Dan Stop.They can't do that. They're gonna use
that for James? Easy, Okay, you can trade your seventeen pick in
this year. Fred, you cantrade glad you made yourself laugh on that.
You can trade you can trade numbertwenty nine, I'm sorry, not

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twenty nine. You can trade twentytwenty nine your first round pick, and
on draft night you can trade yourtwenty thirty one first round pick. Now,
the caveat of those things is likethose picks. If you're going to
put both of those picks into atrade, you pretty much have to unprotect
them. You can't really, youcan't give yourself a lot of wiggle room
because of rules that you know theywould have to convey the second round picks.

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It gets it gets up, solike basically it's two unprotected first round
picks. You're seventeen in this year. Austin reaveson, if you want,
you can throw some swaps into there, that's your best offer. I don't
is Donovan Mitchell good enough to necessitatethat offer. I'm I'm willing to talk
about it. I'm not totally surethat I think it is. But it's

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on the flip side of that,it's Cleveland taking that offer. I mean,
I know there's no guarantee that youknow, they make it more uh,
you know, so, like sois Trey Young worth that I don't
believe. So, you know whatI mean, if Devin Booker was available,
and I'm not saying he is,but if Devin Booker was available,
sure, like you talk about it, you know, I think it's just

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a tier up of player right nowthan like what they the means they have.
So I think we can talk aboutthis as an option, you know,
for the Lakers, like really choosinga path. But I also kind
of believe the market will choose itfor them too, if that makes sense.
Yeah, what what do you becauseof? You know, Vincent didn't

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play at all? You know theythey did, you know they they lost,
right, but you know the closegames? How far off do you
really think they are? And doyou think that that if they word to
keep you know, the nucleus ofthis team, can they compete next year?
I mean, I think it's reasonable, Ronnie to think that, like
Lebron James will be slightly worse nextyear than he was this year. But

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that's just like a time thing,And I think it's reasonable to think that,
you know, Anthony Davis may dealwith some sort of injury that he
didn't deal with this year, becausethat's sort of a history thing, right,
So if you put those two thingsinto account, like yeah, no,
I mean, they're going to befurther off next year than they are
this year. But I think theyfeel like getting Gay Vincent Jared Vanderbilt back

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will will boost a lot of whatthey want to do. Defensively, they
think they're going to be upgrading ata head coach, you know, and
I think that they're going to beaggressive in other ways to try to get
better, you know. Plus youadd in things like, you know,
does Austin Reeves have a better season? Does he does he develop more?
Does is there a pathway from MaxChristie? And does he matter on your

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team? And different things like thatwith like young players. So those things
I think may negate some of theregression you might expect from from your top
two guys. But look, man, you look around the West and it's
just like, I mean, it'sDenver. I mean, I'm sorry,
it's Dallas this year. There's fiveother teams that could be there next year.

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There are five teams that could havebeen there this year if things have
broken slightly different, Like it's it'sgonna be hard, and you're gonna have
to be good and the Lakers aregonna have to win on the margins,
and they're gonna have to do itin a way that they haven't really done
as much, and certainly didn't dothis year. You know, they missed
on a lot of their free agencysignings, whether it be for injury,
because of fit or whatever. Theydidn't have a great off season. They

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need to have a great off seasonlike they do, and it's gonna be
a challenge. It's not a greatfree agency class. I'm writing about this
actually right now, I'm staring atmy computer. You know, it's not
a great free agency class. There'sgonna be a lot of competition on the
trade market, and so you haveto really like I guess, like you

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know, you have to like minefor diamonds out there in a way that
you look around. I mean,the thing and I'm writing this is what
I wrote about in the lead ofmy story, is like look at Derrick
Jones for Dallas. You know,a guy that's there on a minimum contract,
never really been considered like this,like key cog winning piece, put
into the right situation on the rightteam, and you know, he walked

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up the court a Conference champion.He's still a young player in the league
despite being experienced, and you know, like the Lakers should be on the
hunt for these kinds of guys.Yeah, and Dan does this speak to
also, And we talk about thisanother sport, especially baseball, as we
looked at, you know, teamsin the Dodgers, everybody thinking they should
win it every single year. Butit's really about the team that gets hot.

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Arizona got hot last year in theplayoffs at the right time and they
went to the World Series. Dallasgets hot right at the end of the
year. I don't I don't thinkmost people wouldn't have picked Dallas to be
in the finals. It's a longshot maybe, but not picking them be
in the finals. Everybody had Denvergoing and they had somebody, you know,
maybe somebody else care but Dallas.No, But they got hot.

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Kyrie and Luca figured it out wherethey play off each other better than anybody
right now, and they are justthe hottest. Their role players fed into
that as well, got hot withthem. So it doesn't always just mean
that you got to have the threestars, you got to have all the
stars. It's really about who getshot at the right time. Now,
the Celtics are a good team andben Aga team all year long. They're

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kind of the the opposite of whatI'm saying. But doesn't it always come
up to a team that happens toget hot at the right time. Well,
I think you need a window,right Rodney. And and when you're
assessing your team, you need toassess sort of like how wide your championship
window is. Boston has a verywide championship window, right, Like they

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have really young players that are undercontract. They have you know, it
is their time right now, rightto go for it and be in the
mix. Every season, Dallas madethat push. You know, they assessed
their situation and they saw window atthe trade deadline and they pushed their chips
in and two trades that at thetime people wondered if they were giving up

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too much, you know, tokind of go all in on PJ.
Washington and Daniel Gafford, And thosehave been highly impactful trades, you know,
for for for Dallas, and amassive reason why that they are,
why they're in the position they're in. They assess their window properly. I
mean, I think with the Lakers, it's fair to say that the window

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is closing to some degree unless theydo something or find way or find ways
to drop it open a little more. And I think that's you know,
look, you can't control getting hotlike that just kind of happens. Injuries
are a part of this. Yougot to be healthy, You got to
be lucky. It's really really hardto win, right, it's really really
difficult. But you need to putyourself in the as possible positions. And

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that's where I think again, likeyou know, hitting hitting in free agency,
uh, making sure that the guysyou sign and the guys you invest
in are available and on the floor, that you hire the right coach,
like I mean for the Lakers,like a lot of the stuff just had
like like this isn't a this isn'treally a summer I think where they can
afford to go two for three orthree for four even right, like this

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has to be a four for foursummer. You know, they gotta do
They got they got to use thepick, right, They've got to hire
the right coach. They've got tokeep their guys healthy and getting like their
younger players improving, and then theyneed to improve the roster. Like like
now that sounds like a lot it'sbecause it is. But if they do
it, you know, sure theycould be in the next chair. Of

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course. Well that you said,hire the right coat, who's the right
coach? Yeah, that's what I'dlike to know, Dan, because in
your reporting, uh, sources insidetell you you know, we're hey,
don't believe the noise from outside.We still got a long way to go
thing, All right? Do youbuy that? Uh? Maybe a little?

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You know. I look, Ithink they're going to ultimately land on
JJ Redick. I think that seemslike the momentum is moving in that direction,
and it has been for a longtime. I can say that James
Brago impressed a lot of people thisweek. I can also say that I
think, you know, should JJReddick get the head coaching job, the

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Lakers will have significant sorry about thoseguys, the Lakers will have significant interest
in trying to glure Jj Barrego fora top assistant position. So it's a
Frank Bogel model, Dan, It'sa Frank Bogel model. I mean,
I mean, it really is right, Like I think they're looking at it
that way where they are they arelooking. I mean, I've I've done

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some reporting, you know, Imean, they're talking about assistant coaches both
internally and externally, you know,with candidates and stuff like that. You
know, Scott Brooks is a nameI've heard. James Brago's a name I've
heard. Jared Dudley is a guythat you know, uh has real close
Lebron James ties and has obviously donea really good job in Dallas. You
know, Jean Rondo is a namethat I reported this week. They got

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a people in a tizzy a littlebit on the internets as as a player
that they could look to add totheir to a coaching staff. You know,
Greg Saint Gene worked for them whenthey won the title in twenty twenty.
These are some of the names thatI'm hearing right now. Obviously,
we'll see what happens when they hirea coach, but I think the front

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office is going to be more involvedin staffing than they were when they with
Darvin Ham, and it seems likethey're going to have They're gonna put more
resources behind it financially too. Yeah, I didn't answer a question. I
don't know who the right coach isthough it's a fred It is a it
is a very hard job head coachof the Lakers is always a hard job.

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Yeah, this version of it isa very difficult job. Fair,
But again we're we're kind of circlingback to where we were. Here comes
Frank Vogel. And by the way, we're picking your assistance, or at
least one of them, and it'sgoing to be Jason Kidd. Okay,
Darvin hand comes in. All right, Darvin, you you get your own
You get your own assistance. Yougot it, you got it. Okay.

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Now we go to a new coachand we're back to you're the coach
and meet your staff. Yeah.I mean, look, I think if
you're going to hire, particularly likein the case of JJ Reddick, right,
Like, if you're hiring a guywho hasn't been in this position before,
you're going to have the ability.Should you want it to have a

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very strong opinion on coaching staff?Like that's just the reality of it.
It's like the Lakers, if you'rethe Lakers, if you're the Lakers,
right, I mean, look,should And I mean I think it worked
with Frank Vogel. Like the issueswith Frank Vogel weren't coaching staff related,

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right, you know, and alot of the you know, the fear
about Jason Kidd and Tranqule. Thosetwo have a tremendous relationship, you know,
and and then that worked out,you know, incredibly. Well,
I think that's you know, butthat's the Lakers default to their past success
a lot. And so so that'skind of the that's kind of where we're

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at on that. You know,I think they're looking back at what's worked
for them in the past, andthat'll be you know, the place where
they correct. They do tend tokind of react to their mistakes by by
doing some version of the opposite.And I know in this case, I
would point to perhaps hiring a moreexperience coach that doesn't those guys really aren't

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out there in mass on this market. So maybe this is one of the
ways where they correct, you know, what they view to be a mistake,
which was you know, not havinga bigger voice, not not ensuring
that there was more experience, morehead former head coaching experience, Darnham staff,
you know then than the last thelast round. Yeah, I mean,

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and you mentioned Frank Vogue at work. It didn't work because he's gone
and it was gone in two years, I mean, and and and then
yes, they won a title.But I think it it just I think
three years it undermines that head coach. And and if you're Frank Vogel,
you don't think Frank Vogel, who'sbeen around and coached in the league before,
he doesn't know who's a good assistantand not a good assistant. J.

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J. Reddick has been around basketballeven though he's you know, he's
a broadcaster. Now, he knowswho's who, he knows what catches up.
Yeah, I mean, I mean, I think it's just that his
hands. I just think it's abad recipe for any head coach, as
friendly as they can be, it'sa bad recipe. Yeah, Runnie.
I think that it's one of thosethings like you know it works when it
works, and it doesn't, whantit doesn't. You know it is.

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I don't think there's a right orwrong way necessarily do this. I mean,
it's it's probably like hiring coaches,probably most akin to like drafting a
quarterback. It's so difficult. Youknow, at least when you draft a
quarterback you have much more information availableto you. But but it is it's
really really hard to know. Somuch depends on timing and situation. For

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guys and guys that were good coachesbefore or bad coaches now, or depending
on their roster and the personnel theyhave, the system they need to run
because of the players they have.You really, in a perfect world,
you want to get everybody aligned,you know, And I think when you
you know, when you do whenyou're hiring somebody like JJ Reddick who has
not been a head coach, ifyou're the front office and you want to

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have a voice in that, like, there's more opportunity to do it there,
certainly than if you were saying,I don't know, hiring Doc Rivers
or Nick Nurse or somebody like that. All right, well, we appreciate
your insight today, Dan, Andwhat will you do this weekend? That's
a great question. Kind of barbecuea little bit, hang it, hang

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a TV outside we're gonna do.We're gonna live my lifelong during a dream
of having an outdoor television, Okay, and uh yeah uh. And then
after that, I guess it's alldownhill from there for me. Guys,
I'll reach the mountain top. You'regonna love the outdoor TV. That's a
very cool thing. Yes, Ican't wait. I literally take the one
from our bedroom now and bring itoutside and like, just like, let

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it sit on a table. AndI love it. I just love it.
And I was able to do Iwas obviously so happy, but I
was able to luck my way intoa free television of decent size. And
so it's like, you know,let's throw it outside, like am I
worried to throw a cover on it. If it gets wet, it gets

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wet, like you know, we'llbe all right, all right, we'll
enjoy that TV. Thanks guys,speed up, yay, have a good
weekend. Yeah, you guys,do enjoy your weekend. Let's talk next
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All right. So here's the problem. USC goes to the Big ten
and it's gonna be tough in aBig ten. Now, Lincoln Riley and

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everybody at USC has one goal thatis to win a national championship. So
that means every game is precious andevery game counts. So when you're playing
a very difficult college schedule. I'mnot saying the pack wasn't difficult, but
it's not a Big ten. Whenyou're playing a Big ten schedule, you
really get no weeks off, nolittle sisters of the poor. Every week

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is tough. So in your nonconference games, many schools around the country
you've heard of this, you know, you know, we'll just line up
cream Puff Tech and we'll play themone week and one other week we'll play
somebody else that you've never heard of. Alabama Junior South Lincoln, we'll put
we'll put them in there and we'llrun them over, and we won't put

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ourselves in a position to lose agame when we are looking at who's going
to be in the national Championship.Yeah, I believe. I believe this
year USC opens with l s U. Yes, in vas right, that's
no, little sister. That iswhat we do. Though. You know,
we never played I believe in ahundred years, played in like a

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cream puff like that. And theone time we did, we got them
off the schedule. I think itwas. You see, but we we've
played LSU and Auburn and gone backto Ohio State and played uh, you
know every year. You see thoughAlabama does it every year. They've they've
got two or two teams at leastone to two teams that they played that

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are Alabama State or or you know, Michigan plays Appalachian State. Remember they
got beat by on one they did, matter of fact, yep. So
they schedule those teams so you know, it's when you're entering the Big ten
and I get it. You know, like you just said, Fred,
it's gonna be murderer's row. Everyteam you play, it's gonna be difficult.
Even you know, it's not justthe teams at the top of Ohio

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State, in Michigan and Penn State. You gotta face Wisconsin, you gotta
face Iowa. You know those thoseare gonna be tough matchups on a weekly
basis. And you don't want tolook up and you have a hiccup against
the team that you probably should havebeaten because you didn't get up for that
game. So, I mean,I understand it, but that's just not
who we've been. Okay, wellmaybe you should be that. Let to

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talk about eliminating Notre Dame too alittle bit. I think they wanted to
go to you know, only playingthem every every couple of years instead of
could you imagine that? I can'tnow that right? That is troubling to
me. That's troubling. I didn'tgo to us, So you did boy
to play Notre Dame like every coupleof years because they're going to be too

(29:03):
tough. What doesn't work, Idon't think so either that doesn't work at
all. That doesn't work. Andagain you know, it's obviously it's a
new day in college football, andyou got to plan for The thing is,
now that se is moving to theBig ten, do you think they
get in? Maybe Ucla for thatmatter, if they get it, ever

(29:26):
get it going again with Washington andOregon. Do they get a little bit
more of a leeway now that theplayoffs have expanded to be a team that
has two losses or even maybe threelosses sometimes because of the schedule, that
they may be able to get into these playoffs scenarios as opposed to when

(29:48):
they were in the pack. Ifthey lost to you know, Washington State
and the other loss was to Arizona, might be a little bit more difficult
for them to get in. Allright, twelve teams make the playoffs?
Right? How many go from theBig ten? Let's just try that sec
How many Big twelve? How many? Yeah? I don't know if there's

(30:08):
a guarantee number other than the conferencechampionship, correct, But I'm just let's
just go. There's six of them, say, six conferences, right,
six of them go automatically. Okay, So that means you've got six more
slots, right, yeah, Okay, So if you have six more slots.
How many do you think the Bigten get? How many losses will

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there be? How many do theSEC get, the Big twelve get?
How many? You only got sixleft? Now you think they're gonna take
four from the Big ten, threefrom the Big ten. No, they're
not gonna take four. They're notgonna take four. But you know,
if they say, okay, theconference championship, we're gonna take the two
teams that are playing in it,you're automatically going to to the playoffs if

(30:52):
you're in the Big ten or you'rein the SEC. And wait a minute,
you said there are six conferences thathave a guarantee. I think I
think I don't know if it's six. Off the top of my head,
I staying out there, I'm thinking, you know, Big ten, SEC,
ACC, you got the Big twelve. Really that's it now? Because
no more pat all right, soI don't know who else goes from major

(31:14):
conferences. Okay, so let's argumentto eight would be at large? Then
well no, if you use yourmodel, got four? Well oh yeah,
yeah, okay, So if youuse my model saying both teams that
go to the conference championship get in, is that what you're saying, right,
there's eight, you got four left. Right, USC's just got to

(31:34):
be better than the other into Bigten. If you third into Big ten
and your record was, you know, ten and two, but yet you
didn't make it to the conference championship, you still got a chance to get
in. I agree with that.So now that it becomes this and just
let's be realists, the USC gotto be ten and two this year.

(31:56):
Yes, No, I said let'sbe realist. I didn't say let's let's
hope against hope. I said,let's be realist. I'm about this.
I'll tell you after we beat Lsu. Okay, that's fair. Yeah,
I'll tell you after we beat Lsu. All right, So there's a chance
you'll never tell me blow them out. If we blow them out, it

(32:17):
says one thing. If we barelybeat him, it says one another thing.
So i'll tell you after we beatLsu. Okay. So again,
if somehow USC happens to lose thatgame, I guess you won't tell me
anything about the Trojans because you're onlytelling me after you beat them. Yes,
which means i'll tell you how canwe beat them? Right? Buying

(32:39):
that? Hey, if you're sellingif you're selling it, you want me
to buy it? Sitting right here, sir, I'll buy it. Whatever
this goes into vapor anyway, Sojust whatever. But here's the funny thing.
I won't forget you said that.I know you won't. I know
you won't. I know you won't. Oh no, you'll be texting me

(33:01):
right from I'll be in Vegas.You'll be texting me that night talking about,
Hey, okay, what do yougot? Yeah, what do you
think I will? I definitely will. Uh? You know what we should
do? Why don't we do thisnow? Why don't we play a little?
Uh? What should we play?Know your lateness? Play a little
know your squad right now, oneo'clock hour? Oh your squad? Why

(33:21):
not? Let's let's do that rightnow, come on call, let's call
in. Give me some give mesome work on a Friday. No,
no, no, no, Andlet's do this. Let's do this right
after the break. Let's do itright after the break. Uh, that's

(33:50):
right. That was the tease forKnow your Squad? Oh it was yeah,
a six nine, seven seventy firstcaller. We hope Ronnie's capable picking
you up and putting you on theair. And if he is, don't
count on it. Fred, Iunderstand the way today's gone. Anything can
happen. It's Friday. I don'tunderstand what happened. No one does anyway,

(34:10):
Uhlan, whoever calls, we're gonnaput you on. You're gonna play
Rodney and Ronnie next come on.Oh yeah, coming back to your breakdancing
days. Huh Ronnie, Yeah,get that cardboard down and do your spin

(34:30):
move Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan ona Friday, we don't care Friday.
That's apparent very much. So that'sabundantly obvious today. Yeah, because I'm
asking the question right now, whatare we doing? What are we doing?
We're gonna play a little uh playlittle know your lakers? Okay?

(34:59):
All right? Man in Diamond Bar? Are you there? Mac? Are
you there? All right? Herefor it? How you doing? Man?
Came back? Can you hear me? Yeah? We got you now?
All good with you today? Doinggood? Never long? There he

(35:21):
is all right there he is talkingabout let's go, baby, Mac.
We're gonna play. No your Lakers. I give you a question in five
choices. Answer before I give youall five choices, you're locked out.
You have a challenge. Use yourchallenge. It's upheld. You will retain
your challenge. Use your challenge.It's denied, you will be locked out
of the next question. You gotit? Got it? Ronnie? You

(35:42):
ready to fire this up? HappyFriday, Rogan and Rodney. I am
ready to have fired up. Let'sgo. Good luck to all. Which
of these players holds the record forhighest three point field goal percentage and a
single season of forty four percent?Anthony Peeler, Vladimir rod Monovic, Steve
Blake, Sasha will you chich SashaBaron Cohen, Vladimir red Monovitch. That
is rad Okay, it is notSteve Blake. Try Mac. The answer

(36:08):
was Vladimir red Monovitch. Ronnie,well done, seriously, thank you.
I mean that I'm not exaggerature.Yeah, I know, I'm impressed.
No, you don't care. It'sFriday. I don't care. Okay.
Lakers lost to the Pistons in fivegames in the two thousand and four NBA
Finals. By the way, thatis when my eyes burnt out of my

(36:31):
head and I had stigmata. Ifanybody cares about me, but they lost?
What Kevin? What is Kevin Mada? Where my eyes? Basically caught
on fire and were burning out ofmy head, and your palms were bleeding
profusely. Yeah, and that's whenthey gave me morphine. And I saw

(36:51):
like tigers with human heads eating peoplewhen I was on morphine, and I
said, stop giving me morphine.Are you sure that was morphine? Fred?
And not ellis not mushrooms tigers eatingtheir young. I just took it.
It was very odd. Well Freddoes do that? Doctor says you

(37:12):
can take this? And French?Yeah, sure, why not? Yeah?
Why not? Here you go?Oh no, I'm I'm mister barmore
doing this door? Fred, Yeah, I'll go in that door. Okay,
sure, film let me get lostin the bathroom. No, I
look at it like that closet fullof tain saws that's in there. What's
going on? Fredie, Like youtake your phone into that bathroom. Imagine

(37:34):
you'd be banging on door help,right, I could. I wouldn't have
been able to get out of thebathroom. See, I look at it
like this, Rodney. Let's sayyou're on medication. I don't know if
you are. You don't have totell me. But for the purpose of
the conversation, let's say you're takingsome sort of medication, and I am
very good. I don't know whatit's for. It's none of my business,
Yes I am, But you aretaking it in and it's doing something

(37:54):
for you. Fair. Fair,I don't even know what it is,
but I'll take it because your takecan get and I think it'll do something
for me. That's the way itworks with you. I'm big pharma for
me. It's good for you,it's good for me. You're an antibiotic.
It can't hurt you. Why shouldn'tI take it. That's how marais
ended up pregnant. Fred, Seeyeah, do that stuff. Maybe that's

(38:17):
why good, Kevin. Maybe that'swhat it explains the size of your ankles
here, Fred, get off myankle. Your ankles blew up. Fred,
get off my ankles, he said, Kevin Man. He said it
worked for her, and go workfor me. Now my ankles are pregnant.
Let's go to the next question.Lord. Lakers lost to the Pistons

(38:38):
in five games in the two thousandand four NBA Finals. Shaq and Kobe
led the Lakers and scoring with anaverage of twenty six and twenty two points
per game. Who was a Lakersthird leading scorer in that series with an
average of six points per game.Karl Malone, Gary Payton, Derek Fisher,
Devin George or Wally George. DevinGeorge. Yes, Rodney is okay,

(38:59):
Jesus no for Mac, Rodney alreadysaid Derek Fisher. Okay, now,
Mack, do you think you havea delay? No? Okay,
good, okay, all right,No, we know, we know,
but that was wrong. Here's thenext one. Come on. Who holds

(39:21):
a single season record for most seealsper game with an average of three point
four? All right, Kobe Bryant, Magic Johnson, Norm Nixon, Eddie
Jones or Rashita Jones Norman, Yes, Rodney j Right, right, o
red O, Magic Johnson. Allright, here's an next one. Lakers
missed the playoffs in two thousand andfive after Shock was traded to Miami.

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Kobe Bryant, the leading scorer thatseason with an average of twenty seven a
game. Who was their second leadingscore that season? Lamar Odem, Chuckie
Atkins, Chris Mim Karan Butler orGerrod Butler, Lamarrodem, Chuckie Atkins,
No, Chris Min Butler, RonButler, Rodney, No, it's not
Lamar odim whoa no, Mac,It doesn't matter how many times you say,

(40:09):
lamar owld him. It wasn't roomwait wait, wait, wait,
time out. I was stuck inthe bathroom time out. That's not all
I love it. Mag. He'sa listener. He've been listening. That's
my man. Way to go back. Man, that's a ripping my emotional
fabric. Man, My God gothim right between the eyes. I love

(40:29):
it all right. Here's the nextone. Magic Johnson, the Lakers career
leader and assists with ten forty one, who was second in team history and
assists was six Thy three hundred andsix, Nord Nixon, Kobe Bryant,
Jerry West, Gale good Richard B. F. Goodrick, Kobe Bryant,
Correct, Rodney, I mean Ronnie. So this is it the final question.

(40:52):
I already won. Well, notnecessarily, damn it. But you
can win, okay, you haveyou have three, Ronnie has two.
Max can get on the board.Here if Mac gets it, Rodney wins.
Simple, Come on, Matt,give me a celting who was the

(41:13):
Lakers leading scorer, and Mike d'AnTony's on a full seat. Whatever he
said, all right? Was thatMac? Yes, that was Ma,
How delayed is Mac? How howmuch of a delay is he? On?
I think Ma's messing with you,Fred, Mac, are you there?

(41:35):
I'm here mag mag playing the game. Mac Macs messing with you.
F should give him a prize,Fred, give him some Fred, Yeah,
you know what you can. Youcan shake Ronnie's hand. That's all
we got. No glossy, Fred, a black and white glossy. Come
on, No, we don't havelike, we don't have those glassy No,

(42:01):
I bet you do. No,I don't board. He got him
in his backpack? What are youtalking about? First of all, Max
said he already has a dartboard.Did you hear that? I did back?
I don't think I didn't hear that. All right, here's a final
question. Let's go, let's getdone. Who is the Lakers leading scorer
in Mike dan Tony's only full seasonas head coach in twenty thirteen twenty fourteen?

(42:23):
Pagasol, Nick Young, Jody Meeks, Jordan Hill or Jordan spark Gasol
Nick Young? Rodney has won thegame. But Swaggy Peaky Swaggy, well
there you go, and Iggy Ohno, Nick, thanks for listening.
We really appreciate it. It wasfine, all right, goodbye, Nick,

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