February 12, 2025 • 9 mins
Pastor Gale Kragt joins us to discuss Spiritual Care Consultants.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Talk of the Town on News reading a
with thirteen hundred and one oh six nine FM. It's
Steve Kelly and Brett Pikeita from West Michigan's Morning News,
and we are joined by Pastor Gail Kroct, who, by
the way, has a little radio show that you may
hear on Wood Radio called Healing Begins. You hear it
Saturday and Sunday nights at one am. Pastor Kroct, thanks
for coming in today, man.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It's really great to be with you guys. You know
a lot of people say, are you at the station
at one am in the morning. You go, no, pree record,
So thanks and thanks for having me on the show.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
For those that haven't heard the show or aren't familiar
with what you do, how do you define that.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Healing Begins means? The topics and for discussion on the
show are all focused around things that will strengthen people
in their faith, help them in their walk with the Lord.
None of it's ever political, none of it's denominational. Elhos said, i'mbominational.
Nothing's ever denominational. It's all focused on on g as,
(01:00):
focused on strengthening people and encouraging them and helping them
to deal maybe with stress, anxiety, depression, and it might
even be telling them a little bit about what we
do and how we can help them.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Now, Pastor, you have that as a media arm so
that is the name of your radio show, which you've
got cop podcast, you've got videos. But then also there's
a nonprofit Spiritualcareconsultants dot com is the website for that.
How did that get started?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Oh, that's a really good story. And two thousand and
seven I was in a Bible study with doctor Troy
Carlson and some other doctors that used to be Pente Hospital,
then Spectrum and now it's Carwell Health. And after one
of the Bible studies, doctor Troy said, you know, I
need something more than a pill to give people. People
(01:48):
need something more. There's some things that people go through
that medication cannot help them. And I said, well, he goes,
what do you think I need? Gaal? I said, you
need a spiritual care consultant. He stopped. He Hey, I
like the idea. What do you think one would do?
I thought, oh, no, I've got myself into counseling. Because
I really didn't want to do counseling. I was burned
(02:09):
out on that. I didn't really want to do healing ministry.
But you know, Isaiah ninety six says that Jesus said,
I am the wonderful counselor in the Prince of Peace.
And I said, Lord, if you help me help somebody
else find peace, we'll do. What it looks like. Started
in two thousand and seven with me a chair in
(02:30):
the corner of his breakroom, no team, no healing process.
We had nothing, no finance, and so I knew it
was a God idea, and so he said, he gave
me permission, why don't you develop it? So I went
out because I worked in the medical setting, and I
got a board a director. In two weeks, I got
(02:51):
a whole board. It was all medical doctors, pastors, arapists.
So I had a whole medical board and we were
starting a new adventure. And that's literally how it started
overnight like boom, and I knew it was a God idea.
The first six months nothing came in, but we were
developing the nonprofit. So Healing Begins is a part of
(03:12):
the nonprofit. It's just that I really felt the Lord said,
there's a lot more people that need healing, that need
to hear your voice, and we started to develop Healing
Begins with Relive Media out of fruit Port and it's
just blossomed.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
From there SCC Healing Begins dot com or Spiritualcreconsultants dot com.
So how does spiritual care affect health and mental health?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Well, that's really nice question, Steve, that's a big question actually.
So I asked the Lord for an illustration that would
help bridge the gap for people, because everybody needs a
good illustration. And what I came up with the soul slivers.
First Stessalonians five twenty three says, may the God of
Peace sanctify you through and through may your soul embody
(04:02):
be kept blameless the coming of our Lord. We know
according to the Bible we're made up of three parts spirit, soul,
and body. And we know that the soul, according to
the Bible, is the seat of the intellect, well and emotions. Now,
can you guys remember that for a minute. I'm gonna
tell you story. There might be a quiz we'll see.
One day I worked in the lumberyard. I should never
(04:23):
work in lumber I'm terrible at lumber and they got
a great big sliver in my finger. So I went
to somebody I held out of my finger and he
took appliers and he pulled it out. Now could I
leave it in there? Sure? Brat What would happen if
I left that sliver in that finger?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
No, you have a nasty wound eventually.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Well I'd be infected. Yeah, and that infection to go
up my arm to my be detrimental to my health.
In life, we experience events. They stick in our souls
like a sliver in the finger, and if we don't
get healing, we get what I would call as a
soul infection, which is evidence by stress, anxiety, depression, anger,
so wine, and so forth. And then because you got
(05:00):
all this going on, the first place that's going to
be affected as your mind, how by anxiety. So one
day you go to your doctor and you say, doctor, doctor,
I'm having a lot of anxiety in my mind. And
what does he give you? Steve Madison gives you a pill,
a medication. Now we're not against that, we say it's
like a bridge to a better place. But if you
don't deal with those events, not to stress, anxiety, depression,
(05:23):
you got a deal getting healing for the event. And
if you stack one event on another event, on another event,
it will begin causing chemical changes and reactions in your
body in which you eventually can cause physical sicknesses and
illnesses like epstein bar fibromyalgia, so on, so forth. And
then one day you go to your car, you go
dot your car. I was gonna say, your car prector.
(05:44):
You go to your psychiatrist and you say, and you
tell them about all these events and everything you're dealing with,
and what does he do. He puts a label on
you by gally, I think your bipolar or your manic depressive.
Now that's not how God, but it's the result of
what you've been through. So we do have spiritual care
(06:07):
that people are open, and we're Christian ministry. We go
to those hurting events. And I wrote the process through
which the Lord comes and removes actually the pain out
of the event.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
And when you hear the radio show or you see
a video, or you see it in action, talk about
the reaction that you get. Because people, sometimes I think,
and I'm throwing myself into this situation, you're blind to
what you just said is happening to you every day.
And so when the light bulb goes on, what is
(06:44):
the reaction you get from your audience, and what is
the feeling you get and how that's the first stage
right of trying to help them.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Is the reaction. So this this this father from Holland
brought his daughter in years ago, and when they realize
that we could actually help his kid, he said, man,
he said, I should have found you guys sooner. He said,
you know, I spent on I could have bought a
car on the counseling I paid for because we offer
(07:13):
it for no cost. Now it's not that it's no cost,
because I do the fund development. We have a staff
at thirty seven, and we raise the money to help people.
But they're surprised, literally, what you mean there's hope for me?
You mean I'm not a hopeless case. We said, no,
you can reverse that process. Now it's going to take
some work, but if you're willing to use our tools
(07:38):
and let us help you, you can get better. It's
and then the medication. Let's talk about that piece for
a minute. So I helped the military vet that no
one could help. But his mother asked that if we
could help him terrible PTSD, which people said, you can't
heal them. And so he came to me and he
(07:58):
was on fourteen psychiatric medications and long hair down to
his shoulders. Doc taggs, he's looking at me as I
was looking at him, as he was looking at me.
Long story short. In the year and a half his
PTSD was gone and working with his psychiatrist, he got
off all his medications because he got better. He didn't
(08:22):
have the depression the more, he didn't have the anxiety anymore.
His wife even let him come back. His son said,
I'll have nothing to do with him. He got his
son back, his wife back. Sounds like a country song. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
By the way, if you want to hear more about this,
listen to some podcasts as well. SCC Healing Begins dot
com Spiritual Care Consultants dot com will be listening to
Wood Radio Friday and Saturday nights. No wait a minute,
Saturday and Sunday nights at one am. We're out of time,
but again, those are great resources to find out more information.
(08:58):
Pastor Gail Kroft, thanks, thank you so much for your
time today.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
You're welcome. It's been fun, guys.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
This is Talk of the Town on News Radio with
thirteen hundred and one oh six nine FM.
This is Talk of the Town on News reading a
with thirteen hundred and one oh six nine FM. It's
Steve Kelly and Brett Pikeita from West Michigan's Morning News,
and we are joined by Pastor Gail Kroct, who, by
the way, has a little radio show that you may
hear on Wood Radio called Healing Begins. You hear it
Saturday and Sunday nights at one am. Pastor Kroct, thanks
for coming in today, man.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It's really great to be with you guys. You know
a lot of people say, are you at the station
at one am in the morning. You go, no, pree record,
So thanks and thanks for having me on the show.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
For those that haven't heard the show or aren't familiar
with what you do, how do you define that.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Healing Begins means? The topics and for discussion on the
show are all focused around things that will strengthen people
in their faith, help them in their walk with the Lord.
None of it's ever political, none of it's denominational. Elhos said, i'mbominational.
Nothing's ever denominational. It's all focused on on g as,
(01:00):
focused on strengthening people and encouraging them and helping them
to deal maybe with stress, anxiety, depression, and it might
even be telling them a little bit about what we
do and how we can help them.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Now, Pastor, you have that as a media arm so
that is the name of your radio show, which you've
got cop podcast, you've got videos. But then also there's
a nonprofit Spiritualcareconsultants dot com is the website for that.
How did that get started?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Oh, that's a really good story. And two thousand and
seven I was in a Bible study with doctor Troy
Carlson and some other doctors that used to be Pente Hospital,
then Spectrum and now it's Carwell Health. And after one
of the Bible studies, doctor Troy said, you know, I
need something more than a pill to give people. People
(01:48):
need something more. There's some things that people go through
that medication cannot help them. And I said, well, he goes,
what do you think I need? Gaal? I said, you
need a spiritual care consultant. He stopped. He Hey, I
like the idea. What do you think one would do?
I thought, oh, no, I've got myself into counseling. Because
I really didn't want to do counseling. I was burned
(02:09):
out on that. I didn't really want to do healing ministry.
But you know, Isaiah ninety six says that Jesus said,
I am the wonderful counselor in the Prince of Peace.
And I said, Lord, if you help me help somebody
else find peace, we'll do. What it looks like. Started
in two thousand and seven with me a chair in
(02:30):
the corner of his breakroom, no team, no healing process.
We had nothing, no finance, and so I knew it
was a God idea, and so he said, he gave
me permission, why don't you develop it? So I went
out because I worked in the medical setting, and I
got a board a director. In two weeks, I got
(02:51):
a whole board. It was all medical doctors, pastors, arapists.
So I had a whole medical board and we were
starting a new adventure. And that's literally how it started
overnight like boom, and I knew it was a God idea.
The first six months nothing came in, but we were
developing the nonprofit. So Healing Begins is a part of
(03:12):
the nonprofit. It's just that I really felt the Lord said,
there's a lot more people that need healing, that need
to hear your voice, and we started to develop Healing
Begins with Relive Media out of fruit Port and it's
just blossomed.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
From there SCC Healing Begins dot com or Spiritualcreconsultants dot com.
So how does spiritual care affect health and mental health?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Well, that's really nice question, Steve, that's a big question actually.
So I asked the Lord for an illustration that would
help bridge the gap for people, because everybody needs a
good illustration. And what I came up with the soul slivers.
First Stessalonians five twenty three says, may the God of
Peace sanctify you through and through may your soul embody
(04:02):
be kept blameless the coming of our Lord. We know
according to the Bible we're made up of three parts spirit, soul,
and body. And we know that the soul, according to
the Bible, is the seat of the intellect, well and emotions. Now,
can you guys remember that for a minute. I'm gonna
tell you story. There might be a quiz we'll see.
One day I worked in the lumberyard. I should never
(04:23):
work in lumber I'm terrible at lumber and they got
a great big sliver in my finger. So I went
to somebody I held out of my finger and he
took appliers and he pulled it out. Now could I
leave it in there? Sure? Brat What would happen if
I left that sliver in that finger?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
No, you have a nasty wound eventually.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Well I'd be infected. Yeah, and that infection to go
up my arm to my be detrimental to my health.
In life, we experience events. They stick in our souls
like a sliver in the finger, and if we don't
get healing, we get what I would call as a
soul infection, which is evidence by stress, anxiety, depression, anger,
so wine, and so forth. And then because you got
(05:00):
all this going on, the first place that's going to
be affected as your mind, how by anxiety. So one
day you go to your doctor and you say, doctor, doctor,
I'm having a lot of anxiety in my mind. And
what does he give you? Steve Madison gives you a pill,
a medication. Now we're not against that, we say it's
like a bridge to a better place. But if you
don't deal with those events, not to stress, anxiety, depression,
(05:23):
you got a deal getting healing for the event. And
if you stack one event on another event, on another event,
it will begin causing chemical changes and reactions in your
body in which you eventually can cause physical sicknesses and
illnesses like epstein bar fibromyalgia, so on, so forth. And
then one day you go to your car, you go
dot your car. I was gonna say, your car prector.
(05:44):
You go to your psychiatrist and you say, and you
tell them about all these events and everything you're dealing with,
and what does he do. He puts a label on
you by gally, I think your bipolar or your manic depressive.
Now that's not how God, but it's the result of
what you've been through. So we do have spiritual care
(06:07):
that people are open, and we're Christian ministry. We go
to those hurting events. And I wrote the process through
which the Lord comes and removes actually the pain out
of the event.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
And when you hear the radio show or you see
a video, or you see it in action, talk about
the reaction that you get. Because people, sometimes I think,
and I'm throwing myself into this situation, you're blind to
what you just said is happening to you every day.
And so when the light bulb goes on, what is
(06:44):
the reaction you get from your audience, and what is
the feeling you get and how that's the first stage
right of trying to help them.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Is the reaction. So this this this father from Holland
brought his daughter in years ago, and when they realize
that we could actually help his kid, he said, man,
he said, I should have found you guys sooner. He said,
you know, I spent on I could have bought a
car on the counseling I paid for because we offer
(07:13):
it for no cost. Now it's not that it's no cost,
because I do the fund development. We have a staff
at thirty seven, and we raise the money to help people.
But they're surprised, literally, what you mean there's hope for me?
You mean I'm not a hopeless case. We said, no,
you can reverse that process. Now it's going to take
some work, but if you're willing to use our tools
(07:38):
and let us help you, you can get better. It's
and then the medication. Let's talk about that piece for
a minute. So I helped the military vet that no
one could help. But his mother asked that if we
could help him terrible PTSD, which people said, you can't
heal them. And so he came to me and he
(07:58):
was on fourteen psychiatric medications and long hair down to
his shoulders. Doc taggs, he's looking at me as I
was looking at him, as he was looking at me.
Long story short. In the year and a half his
PTSD was gone and working with his psychiatrist, he got
off all his medications because he got better. He didn't
(08:22):
have the depression the more, he didn't have the anxiety anymore.
His wife even let him come back. His son said,
I'll have nothing to do with him. He got his
son back, his wife back. Sounds like a country song. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
By the way, if you want to hear more about this,
listen to some podcasts as well. SCC Healing Begins dot
com Spiritual Care Consultants dot com will be listening to
Wood Radio Friday and Saturday nights. No wait a minute,
Saturday and Sunday nights at one am. We're out of time,
but again, those are great resources to find out more information.
(08:58):
Pastor Gail Kroft, thanks, thank you so much for your
time today.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
You're welcome. It's been fun, guys.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
This is Talk of the Town on News Radio with
thirteen hundred and one oh six nine FM.
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