C*ck Zucking w/ Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai & Clint Russell

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I am David Lee Corbo aka the Raven That's top Lobster.
Today we are joined by Clint Russell of Liberty, Lockdown,
the Best political Show and most importantly Tower Gang, and
our guest today is a fellow New Jersey and and
inventor of email, doctor Shiva. Doctor Shiva, can you tell
the audience a little bit about what it is that

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you focus on and where they can find your work
and so.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
What part of New Jersey. Are you from, By the way,
I didn't know you're.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
I was born in Elizabeth and uh, so we are
both from very fantastic neighborhoods. And I moved all over.
So I lived in Edison, Woodbridge, Freehold, all the way
up north to h to Highland Lakes, right there at
the border where it meets New York. So I lived
up in the Boonies, so a little bit of a
little bit everywhere.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, so I'm from Jersey too. And so to get
to answer your question, what do I focus on? You know,
I'm a system signientists. And it's hard for people to
appreciate what that is because they hear those words which
are used individually a lot, systems and science and they
think sort of they understand it. But it's a very
very deep science that really goes to the essence of

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the knowledge that people need to learn today. So if
you go back about you know, one hundred years ago
or even sixty years ago, the elites used to make
sure that people weren't fed proper nutrition. Particular dude in
the ages, let's say zero to three, So you basically
created dumb people and they could use them to do
all sorts of menial labor that they needed. You know,

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this was where the cast system really came from. That's
same place like India and other places. This was actually
created because of the quality of food that you did
not give people. And it took many, many years for
people to realize that there's a particular period in your
life that you need. Essentially, you need certain amount of protein.
So in India, for example, in the sixties, there was
a guy who came from a civil rights reformer, came

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from the lower cast He said, look, my people aren't dumb.
You just feel high protein meal, you know, and you
see a significant change. So why do I give that
example because I was a product of that. You know,
my parents came from a cast system in India where
they weren't supposed to be anything except picking coconuts. Really,
and every cast had a particular job. Now you go

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at something like the scumbag Vivic the snake, he grew
up in a cast system and that's what he really is.
I mean, the guy's a complete fucking crook. Everything his
entire life has been that, and anyone who supports him
and gives any type of publicity to him should really
wake the fuck up because they're basically saying that I'm
a house nigger, you know, and with their own slavery,

(04:46):
because that's what he is, and most of these politicians
running that's who they are. But he grew up in
an environment of one of the elite Brahmin casts where
these people just designated themselves like Zionists who said that
they're the chosen people. So, you know, my parents came
out of that, and I am very very It's very
personal to me because I've fought that battle and I

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still continue to fight it. I went to an all
Zionist school in New Jersey, living Stone, which you may know,
you know the last three years, you know, you know,
Kushners live there. Christie's from there. So I grew up
among these guys and I competed with them, did better
than them. That really bugged them. But so I come
from this world of wanting to understand systems. Now, if
you transport that to today, we don't have you know,

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you could argue people are getting food. I mean, we
could have a whole discussion on food and how fucked
up the food system is.

Speaker 7 (05:36):
Can I ask you a question before I forget what's
going on between Israel and India. It seems like the
Indian people love Zionist Israel and.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
I not the nons the Brahmins do constripted distinguish it.
There's one point whatever six billion people in India. Only
a small set of them are the Brahman elites. And
so I'll come to that because it's a really really
good question. Brahminism equals naze you back to that. But
the bottom line is this in today's world. In the

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nineteen fifties and sixties, there was a real development to
unravel some of the real fundamental issues of the universe
natural laws, and there was this big contradiction with the
second law of thermodynamics and Newton's law of mechanistic laws,
and that resulted in a field called system science. And

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system science is the food for the brain that you
need as much as you need proper nutrition for the
physical body. So you have a vast majority of human
beings who don't understand how systems work, and that's why
they you have grifters thinking Trump is some hero, all right?
Are people thinking Booby fucking Kennedy's a hero or they

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want to suck off Joe Rogan? All these guys are
zion As cocksuckers and the grifters. That's who they are,
and you can look at their history, because then you
can you can apply a simple scientific litmus tests everyone's
quote unquote telling the truth. These days, truth doesn't matter
if you tell the truth. Okay, a lot of academics

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tell the truth, they get academic positions. How fucked you are,
and this is happening, that's happening. Truth is in some
ways irrelevant if you don't combine it with two other
essential ingredients. When did you tell the truth? Did you
tell at the right time when it fucking mattered? And
are you telling the truth to immobilize people, to mobilize people,

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to shatter the swarm? And that's what I've been doing.
So if you look at the legs of a stool, Yeah,
fucker Carlson tells the truth all the time. But he's
a fucking cia operative. Anyone who can't see that needs
to have their heads checked. Okay, the guy's so his
head has been so deep up the Zonus cocksucking Swarm's
ass his entire life. And he comes from a history

(07:56):
of Zionus cocksuckers. All right, Suddenly he's acting anti staffublishment,
and every fucking grifter is chasing his ass Kim iverson
every guy, and he exists to fly trap people back
to have you know, faith in them. Now, getting back
to your question.

Speaker 7 (08:11):
Wait, you know how I know you're right because we
deal in the conspiracy realm, very like Nephelum aliens, shit
like that. And Tucker Carlson came out a couple of
months ago and he was like, they're interdimensional saying Alex
Jones stuff saying. But he also did say, like, I
know more, but I just really can't say. So it's again,
it's telling the truth, but not quite soon.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
It's called the limited hangout. It's a particular I.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Was just gonna say, a limited hangout. It's all while
wearing his red Kabala bracelet.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, fucker Carlson, Booby fucking Kennedy. These people are very
dangerous human beings. They come from the deep State, and
you have to look at their entire arc of their history.
You know, the you know, the apple doesn't follow a
fall far far from the tree, Okay, but they have

(09:01):
enough deception that they do to manipulate people. So if
you look at every once in a while an issue
will come up. The issue of Zionism has been around
for a long time. You know, in nineteen eighties, this
guy mer Kahana came to Boston, one of the butcherers
who worked with Ariel Schroon to butcher a lot of Palestinians.

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And the same movement that you see now, the same
liberal Zionis movement cease fire now nonsense was going on. Then.
The Ceasefire now movement is owned and run by liberal Zionus.
Ceasefire now means two steps forward for Israel, one step back,
which means Israel keeps making one step forward. But all
of those Ceasefire now posters are run by one organization

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and controlled directly by Israel. It's not about ceasefire now.
It's about end the occupation of the United States by Zionism.
So now we need to understand go back to your question,
what is Zionism, What is Nazism, What is Brahminism. They're
the exacts at exact same political ideologies. Politically ideology is

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what we'll just understanding. That is what will determine whether
we want to get off the plantation and you know,
be a field slave or remain on the plantation. So
what do I say this if you go back to
the caste system. The caste system originally was a concept of, uh,
you know, we all worked hard. You know, you became

(10:29):
a carpenter, you became you know, Clint became a let's say,
a good athlete, and I became a you know, scientist,
and you became whatever, an actor or an artist.

Speaker 8 (10:39):
Right.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
It was based on your merit, all right, based on
your skills, your application. Now, over time, somewhere along the way,
someone decided, oh, I'm a doctor, my son gets to
be a doctor. I'm a priest, my son gets to
be a priest, okay, and they created some bullshit saying, oh,
the gods said that the priest it is the number

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one top cast you know. Then the kings, you know,
they created this very hierarchical system which was no longer
based on merit about you working, but it was based
on your birth lottery, you see what I'm saying. And
it also said that the people on the top, the priesthood,
the learned academics, were the chosen people and they should

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tell everyone else what to do. That was Brahminism, and
in the eighth century to the sixteen.

Speaker 7 (11:31):
Sounds like you're describing our current political system all the
way down to the top of our like mainstream media,
the paid, highly paid people, and you know, I mean
it makes a lot of sense as to why it
is that way, because if they do put somebody like
you in you're not from the family, this thing collapses
because in the end, I mean, the you know, the
government really isn't anything besides like a facade and also

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a facade of threat. Right, So if they start putting
in outsiders that illusion that they've created, because I don't
even think they can act enact that much violence on
the American people. If there were some we got to
get this off YouTube, if there were some kind of upright, Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Mean, the observation you're making is very important. Look, the reality,
this whole thing is driven by mind control, and it
requires massive, massive media manipulation, and it requires a core philosophy,
and the philosophy has to be ingrained into people that
a few know better than you. And I did the

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swarm video. That's what it was trying to get across
to people, right, that a small set of people Hollywood, right,
a few set of academics, a few elite people. They
actually know better than you, and in a relentless way
every microsecond this concept. Trillions of dollars has spent on

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this to manipulate people to think this is right, that
this is how it should be. And if you look
at the current presidential election, I'm the only one who
has the credentials and the you know who comes bottoms
up to be president. You can look at my entire
history four degrees from mit inventing things, creating email as
a kid, you know, a true American growing up here.
How the fuck can you even compare that to Booby

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fucking Kennedy or Trump? These guys have never worked a
day in their.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Lives, Doctor Shiva, I do have an important question. You
brought up the uh inventing of email, which I think
is tremendous, But how do you square the idea that
had you not invented email, Hillary Clinton would have never
been able to have found the resurrection chamber of Gilgamesh.

Speaker 8 (13:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (13:40):
I don't know a lot of this stuff.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
I don't know what that is, but I can tell
you that.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Wait, wait, this is something that you're you're unfamiliar with.
This is exciting. I want to tell you about this.
So there was these leaked to emails. I believe it
was the Podesta emails and uh, Hillary Clinton.

Speaker 8 (13:54):
And getting weird.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
So we're going to drag you.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Into a strange place, and this is my opportunity, Uh
Hillary Clinton.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
The emails were leaked.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
She's asking for the location of the resurrection chamber of Gilgamesh. Right,
this this hero of a Sumerian epic, children of the
Fallen angels and the and and human women, And it
was one of the many strange things to come out
during the the email scandal that happened. When you know

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all of her emails leaked, I'm.

Speaker 7 (14:25):
Fair, to be fair, she could be talking about fucking children.
But for us, this raises a lot of flags and
it should for you as well, because you're asking the
question why not why can't I get in? And I
can tell you why you can't get in? You don't
have the right bloodline.

Speaker 8 (14:38):
That's all.

Speaker 7 (14:38):
That's like, all this shit is about, man. So if
you start to look into the bloodlines, which we believe
go back to ancient like some ancient Nephelim stuff, that's
who rules the world. If you're not in it, that's
just there's your answer.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
You ever get that feeling that it's there's there's an
eliteism that goes beyond just a cast system, a cast
system that you know, you effectively lined out in India.
But it's also one of those systems that if it's
not broke, don't fix it. Right, it's an ancient system,
it's very effective, and they apply it the elites that
is across many spectrums. Do you ever get the feeling
that the reason that you're not in the club is

(15:15):
something that exceeds even just you know, sort of your
your surface level eliteism and may go deeper into something
like bloodlines.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Well, look among the swarm, right, they have their own rituals,
they have their own ethos, they have their own quote
unquote spirituality, whatever it is, right, They create their own worlds,
they have their own competitions, right, So if that's part
of their ritual, that makes sense. But here, we're not
here to compete with the swarm. We're not here to

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compete in their plantation. We're here to get off their plantation.
So my running for president has no illusions that the
fraud that they do to make sure people stay out
is quite multi layer.

Speaker 8 (16:00):
Right.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
First of all, they make sure that you're not given
visibility step one. Right, that's the first level of fraud.
Who even gets on any visibility, right, So they take
a guy who happens to repeat the stuff I'm saying.
This is not this has not happened since or Obama, right,
it is engineered. So that's one. The second level of deception,

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you know, or the fraud that they do is make
sure you can't even get on the ballot legitimately, which
we did do and we kept doing. And when you
overcome those two hindrances, then the third level is they
suddenly cancel all the debates. There's no more debates. And
then the last piece of the fraud that they do,
which I was, which I was the one to uncover,

(16:44):
was what they do with the machines and the signature
of verification, you know, in our work. So they have
four levels of deception. So obviously they do not want
anyone like us in. But check this out. If I
hadn't run in twenty eighteen against Elizabeth Warren in twenty twenty,
we would have never exposed the backdoor portal into Twitter, right,
which is what we did in twenty twenty, long before

(17:04):
Twitter files and Fucker Carlson did his limited hangout. Okay,
it was us who exposed the fact that the machines
have a weighted race feature. So by the fact that
one of us participates and jumps in which they do
not expect, we're able to uncover things and bring it
out to people and mobilize people in a way that
has not been done. So that's a good thing that collect.

Speaker 7 (17:27):
Me if I'm wrong. Were you on you were on
tinfoil hat years before the twenty twenty election saying that, right,
because I oh, that's when I first heard you.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, I mean, look, so that's why I'm saying fucker Carlson.
I call him fucker Carlson. Is that in twenty twenty
when I ran for offices all you can go to
winbackfreedom dot com? It's all there. You know, half a
billion people know about this all over the world. When
we ran, you know, on September of twenty twenty, we
we were headed to win that election. Three thousand volunteers,

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twenty five thousand bumper stickers, we were everywhere. We raised
two million dollars on a Republican primary in Massachusetts, which
is a pure blue state. The GOP colluded with the
Democrats to flip votes. In the own county we won
by ten points, where all the ballots are hand counted

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primarily in every other county. Was sixty forty sixty forty
sixty forty to a guy who didn't even have one
lawn sign up. And that's when I realized that election
fraud takes place in the United States at that level.
I filed the Foyer request to get the ballot images,
the digital images that should be preserved. The Massachusetts government
had deleted them, one point five million of them. I

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tweeted out on Twitter. Massachusetts deleted one point five ballot
images that went viral, and then I get thrown off Twitter,
first time ever been thrown off. I had to file
the lawsuit in federal court because we were still running
for Senate as a writing candidate, and in those cross
examination hearings, it was myself and the judge who uncovered
that the government of the United States and the government

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of every countries created a backdoor censorship portal to Twitter.
We expose that first. We got the preliminary injunction first,
and Kennedy's people came to our thing and were taking
crib notes saying with all the people in the Missouri
versus Biden stuff. They were jealous that this guy exposed it.
Why because we're not part of even their fake anti

(19:20):
establishment swarm. You follow what I'm saying. They didn't want
to give any limelight to us. You can go look
at winbackfreedom dot com. The communications we sent to Glenn
Greenwald and Fucker Carlson, who I've spoken to before, he
did nothing. He intentionally concealed this lawsuit because it would
give us limelight. We would be the heroes of the hour.
They don't want to do that, even though we did

(19:41):
the actual hard work. I mean, you cannot imagine that
I filed those lawsuits by myself, and it was us
against seven lawyers, me against seven lawyers. The head of
Wilmer and Hale, which is Twitter's law firm, could not
believe I did those lawsuits myself. She goes, these are
two good Okay, that's how good are my lawsuits were?
And anyway, in May of twenty twenty one, we uncovered

(20:03):
all the playbooks, step by step, detailed drawings which Mike
Ben's another operative has stolen from me, and Fucker Carlson
featured him and every other fucking grifter promotes Mike bens Verse.
Why because they have to suck to keep getting their views.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Seriously, let's right ask you this, doctor Shiva, what is
your in your opinion? What is the point of this
limited hangout? What is the what is it designed to do?
This slow dissemination of information that people who are in
the fringes who would be considered conspiracy theorists already believe
they have a firm grasp on. But now fast forward
a couple of years down the line. These things are

(20:39):
allowed to come to light, but they're allowed to come
to light through certain Yeah, they're permitted through certain mouthpieces,
and only on a slow drip. What is the point
of that?

Speaker 7 (20:47):
You see this a lot of comedy as well.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yes, yeah, So let me just correct you on a
couple of theory there, right. First of all, they did
not expect me to run or an office for senate,
an engineer, a guy from below. I should have been
co opted a long time ago, right, So that is
sort of a wrench in their entire thinking. Right. So

(21:12):
number two, when we discovered this, we went direct and
there was a period in twenty twenty when the censors
had not caught up. We got it out. But the reason,
there's two parts to answer to your question. First of all,
why did they not and it's related, why did they
not highlight what we did? Why did Tucker Carlson Glenn Greenwald,

(21:35):
who's part of all this, okay, did not highlight what
we did? Two reasons? Ay, they know I am not
a house nigger, Okay, I'm off the fucking plantation. No,
we should use that word, by the way, it's a
very important we're all we do. We are all niggas
on the white liberal plantation. Everyone should use that word

(21:55):
and should train their kids to use that. It is
not a black world or the white world.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
We have yactly the only word my kid knows.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Right, it's a very important word. Okay. So we're all slaves.
Some of us have chosen to get off the plantation now,
so I don't owe shit to anyone. You can look
at my entire history. I thought the Indian government. I
could have been co opted in Hollywood, co opted at MIT.
We cannot give him any publicity because if we do,
more people are going to come to him. Joe Rogan

(22:23):
intentionally concealed ourself. All of these guys did. However, if
you now realize that they also must they know the
truth is going to come out. So in December of
twenty twenty two, when Musk, when I was put back
on Twitter, must thought I would bow down to him.
And the day he put me back on Twitter, my

(22:44):
question to him was, will you make me your CEO?
You claim you're for free free speech. That got around
twenty million views. You can go see it. And then
I said, elon, are you going to remove the back
door portal to Twitter? Clayton Morris asked him in an
open Twitter space, Hey, doctor Shiva, expose the entire backdoor
portal into Twitter in twenty twenty how do you conform

(23:05):
that to your position on being a free speech absolutist?
And he acted like a fucking dummy. He goes, ooh,
that sounds like big brother. I'll get back to you,
and he never did. So the point is they knew
that I'm still here, right and I still exist, So
what the fuck do we do? So then they did
Twitter Files, which was a limited hangout released to what

(23:26):
I did. Then they did then Tucker fucker Carlson puts
Lee Fang on and the intercept is a total limited
hangout institution run by Pierre Omadar, who's the one who
created the back door portal to Twitter. He's the one
who funded it. It's in that diagram. And Lee Fang
another fucker doesn't even you know, he puts this breaking story.

(23:48):
Oh we found the back door portal to Twitter, which
is basically a plagiar a small, very small plagiarism of
my lawsuit. All right, so they did the drip. But
the reason they do the drip, to answer your question
is they must make the house slaves always think the
swarm is going to save them. You see, in the

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old days, they used to just shoot people right open fascism.
People rose up, we just execute you. Then they realized, shit,
we can't do that, and we don't want to create martyrs.
We don't Malcolm Xes. So they said, what we're gonna
do now is we're going to create fake Malcolm Xes.
We're going to create fake martyrs. Booby fucking Kennedy, Bernie
fucking Sanders, Toolsey Gabbert a warmonger. That's what she really is. Right.

(24:34):
Trump is the biggest fucker of the white working class
in this country. I mean, go look at w W
shit he's doing with Vince McMahon and just transport that
to what the fuck he does with this election's the
same thing, right, So they have so they've created a
whole you know, U league of these fake martyrs, Elon Musk,

(24:55):
Joe rogan To, and they say, after the shit has
hit the fan, after the house is burned down, then
they'll talk stuff. And the goal of that is to
keep people stuck to them. And this is why the
science of systems is so important, because they're like those
dumb kids who didn't get enough food between zero to three.
So you have a bunch of dumb people who didn't understand,

(25:17):
they didn't get the knowledge of this dynamics of manipulation.
And without that knowledge, people will always go one day,
I mean, sixty percent of people who voted for Obama
then voted for Trump, and then they'll vote for Tulci
Gabbard and they'll push Booby or they'll push fucker Carlton.
You say. So, they have it down to a science

(25:39):
because talk is cheap, right, and they confuse people to
think if you say enough good things that you must
be a good person, right when you never you're You
look at these people's entire trajectories they've done everything always
for the establishment.

Speaker 6 (25:54):
It also is it also it enables the vichy amongst
the population to to decrease, because if they go, it's
so obvious I'm being lied to. I'm being lied to.
I've spent years. They locked me down, they forced this
thing on my body, they made it so that I
couldn't I couldn't work. They mask my kid. My kid's
now suicidal and thinking that they're transgender. Well but now

(26:16):
here comes Tucker Carlson and he says, you're right. But
you're right, And that's that's enough for a lot of
people just to just to feel as if there is
there is, there is someone who's fighting for them, even
if they're not.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
There is the famous thirty third degree freemason, author of
the book Morals and Dogma, Albert Pike, who's famously quoted
as saying, when the people are in need of a hero,
we shall provide one for them. And so this is,
you know, one of those other systems. If it's not broke,
don't fix it.

Speaker 8 (26:48):
It works.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Well, it's been around for a while.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yeah, I mean I think that the you know, there
is a you guys know about this in this in
the in the mid sixties, the CIA did a lot
of work with mammals and animals, very gross experiments, and
particularly dogs. This area called learned helplessness. Where so you
guys know this experiment. They they took three, they took

(27:14):
groups of dogs. They would put them into a room.
So you had one room here and another room next
to it, and the dogs, one set of dogs would
go in and the room would be electrocuted. Okay, And
the dogs knew to hit a buzzer, and when they
hit the buzzer, a door would open to let them

(27:35):
jump out. Okay, all right, so dogs, so one set
of dogs knew to hit the buzzer, they'd leave another
set of dogs when they got the electrocution. No matter
how many times they hit the buzzer, nothing happened, okay,
And those dogs were essentially trained to be in learned helplessness.
When they put those dogs in the room again and

(27:57):
the electrocution started, they didn't even bother hitting the buzzer anymore. Okay.
So the frontal lobe of the brain remodels very rapidly,
in fact, Okay, so you can actually teach people that, well,
you can't do anything. See fucker said yeah, blah blah blah,
it's just the way it is. Oh, yes, see there's

(28:17):
election fraud. That's just the way it is. So this
is a and you have to look at RAN, one
of the leading intelligence information agencies in the US government.
He wanted to be in the intelligence agency. Most people know,
ninety percent of mainstream media is run by the CIA
in the United States. So you don't get to be
the chief anchor at Fox News without being part of

(28:39):
the government. So anyone who So this is where the
stupidity happens, where people think this guy suddenly left Fox
News and now he's working for independently, when you know
Twitter is completely a government controlled engine because the backdoor
portal to Twitter still exists, as my lawsuit exposed, and

(28:59):
Muscus done nothing because where Elon Musk begins and where
government ends, nobody knows. All right, it's he's wholly dependent
on government. Everything he does is essentially an act right
to keep this facade going, right, to keep this theater going.
So if you look over the last six months, you
will see the creation of this neo swarm established establishment media.

(29:24):
Alex Jones, right, Joe Rogan, Fucker, Carlson, Elon musk Viveke
the Snake right, all these people the day that fucker
Carlson did that interview with that operative Mike Benz who
literally wholesale plagiarized my material. Oh my god, Booby Kennedy says,

(29:44):
this guy should get a National Hero medal. And all
of Booby's people came to our lawsuits in twenty twenty.
They know I'm the one who did the work. I mean,
it's wholesale stealing, it's totally robbing. But they're absolutely fine
with this because they cannot have the darky from Newark,
New Jersey who got off the plantation ever get the

(30:08):
limelight because I'm leading an independent movement, because I'm teaching,
like Caesar in Planet of the Apes, for all the
other monkeys to rise up, and they cannot have that.
They cannot have that because and I wouldn't do it either.
I wouldn't put me on any of their shows either,
because it would be deadly to them.

Speaker 7 (30:21):
I don't know what if took a calls and reaches
out to you, that's that's what happens.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Well, he won't do it. It's gonna be over for him.
It will have to be live, not pre recorded.

Speaker 7 (30:34):
Okay, that's I do everything live because I don't like
to hide.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Teah. He won't do it because people will realize what
a fucker he is and all of his audience. Basically,
he has taken advantage of the white working class in
this country. And that's what him and Trump's role was
to manipulate the white working class. The American white working
class is the most powerful group on this planet. But

(30:57):
they've been castrated by fucking Trump, by fucking Rogan, by
fucking Elon Musk, by all these people claiming that they're
right wingers fighting for them. Because the white American working
class is the only group on the planet which has
the First and Second Amendments and the number of other rights.
And it has been a long policy since the eighteen
hundreds started out in Britain to make sure that the

(31:22):
American working class is completely debaald of the exercising those rights.
And that's what they've been doing. And this is a really,
really unfortunate situation. This is why Trump was brought in.
If you believe elections or selections, Trump was a selection.
And I know because I was in the middle of
all of this shit.

Speaker 7 (31:40):
So doctor Shiva, let me say something. Now I'm going
to ask you a question. Yeah, well you're describing it's like,
so obviously we operate in the WU, but what you're
describing is a form of like physical alchemy, where if
you're actually physically changing the makeup of someone's brain, this
is almost magic that we're dealing in. And I don't

(32:00):
think the American public looks at what we're doing as
like some kind of actual dark magic. You're talking about families,
old families, occult knowledge. They know this stuff. It's passed
down and like, like just I was wearing a shirt
that said four make four thirty two hurts great again
because they changed the frequency of music from four thirty
two to four forty because they know that it has

(32:21):
some kind of it can cause an imbalance or maybe.
But saying all that, you have a systems program, and
is this systems program sort of like working in the
opposite direction. Can you explain what exactly that is as
it pertains to.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, so you're asking a really good question. Look, so
the work of Ilia Pergroni, who won the No About
Prize in physics, he should have you know, his work
doesn't get enough highlight. But so here's been this fundamental
question on this question of alchemy. Okay, and what you're asking,
it's a really cool question. So a lot of people

(32:57):
don't know Isaac Newton. He was in two worlds, Isaac Newton.
And you know, in the mid sixteen hundred, t discovered
the laws of motion, right, which he wrote in Principia.
What people also don't know. Half of Isaac Newton's work
was also in mysticism. A lot of his papers got burned.
In fact, he did more work in mysticism than he
did in classical mechanics. But anyway, when the works of

(33:20):
Newton came out, where his works basically used mathematics to
describe the motion of objects, right, the motion of particles.
Now this the day that Newton presented his work. The
same day, the religious priesthood also got even more angry. Okay,

(33:42):
so you had the real separation of science and religion.
And why why because if you look at Newton's laws,
what was he actually saying? If you look at Newton's equations,
it predicts that using those equations, you could predict the
motion of every planet. Right, you could predict the of
any object or projectile forward in time, but also backward

(34:04):
in time. So what this means is Newton's equations basically
revealed that if we live in a mechanistic world, we
live in a clock, right, everything can be predicted. So
think about what that means. Using math and using the
laws of motion, we could predict things into the future,
and we could predict things into the past. Blen what

(34:25):
means I know exactly where the Earth is going to
be at a certain point in time, and I know
where it was a thousand years ago. So this really
affected the priesthood of the time because they said, shit,
if this is true, we don't have any power, or
this is the way they interpreted it, we don't have
any power over people because we're saying, you know there
is a God, and you're praying to God can change

(34:49):
your future miracles, right, you're bowing down and believing in
a higher being. But if Newton's equations are saying everything
is predictable and time can be predicted in the past
and the future of a mechanistic view of the universe.
So this separation of science and religion went on for
about three hundred years, oh, about two hundred years and

(35:10):
in the eighteen hundreds, when the laws of thermodynamics were uncovered.
They said, wait a minute, that everything in the universe
goes into the state of disorder. It's not perfectly organized. Right,
Newton's law say, everything's organized, you know, planets go around,
suns and all this kind of stuff, right, But the
second law of thermo dynamics said, if I, you know,

(35:31):
take this bottle and I put a little blue ink
in here, it just disperses to the greatest disorder. Right.
If I if someone comes in and opens up a
little perfume bottle in that corner of the room, it
goes everywhere. The universe actually likes to go to disorder.
And so this became a big contradiction. If the universe
likes to go to disorder, then why are there all

(35:52):
this organization when you look out right? Why is there
a human being? Because if if the second law is true,
an entropy, you know, maxim itself, there should be nothing.
So a guy called Boltzmann try to answer this, and
he really and he was sort of pooh pooed. It
was only nineteen fifty seven that Progroni's work found some
fascinating stuff in physical chemistry where they would see these

(36:15):
random chemical reactions taking place, and suddenly out of randomness
would come beautiful order, and then would go to randomness
again and other types of beautiful patterns. What was concluded
was that in the natural state, there's infinite disorder. Okay, chaos, right,
that's a natural state of the universe, and under certain

(36:36):
conditions we have these systems that emerge what we call
ordered universes, like a mechanistic world. Now, why is this important?
This means that where if you look at the mechanistic
path that, where does that lead to? That leads to
a world thinking, Oh, this whole thing's a simulation. I
can create robots, I can control people. I can gather
enough data. I can predict what Clint's gonna think tomorrow,

(36:59):
what you're going to buy tomorrow. You see what I'm saying.
The mechanistic view basically says that everything is pre ordered.
I just need to gather enough data and I could
predict the next thing doctor Shiva will say tomorrow. Okay.
Now that goes against a different concept. What if a
human being is not part of that mechanistic world, but

(37:19):
their thoughts, their free will, can move the universe into
a state of consciousness where you create self organizing systems.
So when one monkey figures this shit out, wait a minute,
I understand how the systems works. I understand the nine
principles of all systems, which you learn in engineering control
system theory. Then you become an unpredictive force. This is

(37:42):
why I was able to predict what Booby Kennedy was about,
what Trump was about years ago, because you're using these
physical principles. It's so obvious. And now if you start
passing on that consciousness to others, that is something that
they did not predict. You say, So what emerges is
what's called the self organizing system. That means individuals who

(38:04):
raise their consciousness. It's like the one hundred monkey thing, right,
One monkey in one island figures out to crack the
cocon and another one they don't know how, learns it. Now,
in physics, we know that particles communicate with each other,
they don't know how. So there's something else going on here.
And now the elites in the fifties and sixties they
learned the science of systems and they kept it to themselves.

(38:27):
If you want one of the leaders in systems science
on reflexivity theory, all of the elites that I talked
about in the swarm, know the science of systems. They
do not want us to be self organizing systems. This
fucks it all.

Speaker 7 (38:40):
Up, and that's because less predictable, less predictable.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
But this is what this is.

Speaker 6 (38:44):
Why they came down on the J six ers like
an anvil, because like they're running these psychological operations, they're
supposed to have already imbued in us, learned helplessness as
you described it earlier, and if we suddenly act as
if we aren't helpless, well then then they will demonstrate.
Oh yeah, hey, by the way, the state still has teeth, Like,
don't don't get it twisted. We've just been we've been

(39:06):
allowing you to think that you're real boys, but we'll
show you that your puppets too.

Speaker 7 (39:09):
It's interesting that you say that if only if only
we act like we don't even have to actually be
self sustaining or like unpredictable. If only you act like,
then the system crashes. That's how fragile it is. And
that's why you see so much control like this. The
whole COVID thing was it just it just feels like
they're getting towards the end of it because their reactions

(39:30):
to what people are doing have become obvious and like
overdrawn in a way.

Speaker 6 (39:34):
I think that the the the protocols that they utilize
are they are in tropic like that they are actually
deteriorating because as it becomes more and more painful for
the people that are living under this system, it becomes
less and less tenable for them to permit it to continue,
which is why I think it's fascinating. You'll see these
parents who like this, that one bitch that was saying

(39:55):
she's got two trans kids at home that was going
viral on the internet yesterday, and you're like, oh, yeah,
you're never waking up. In fact, you are, you know,
part of the destruction of civilization. But then you see
these other mothers at at parent teacher conferences that are
fucking flipping out and they're like they're ready to burn
shit down. And I'm like, this is this is the
divide amongst the people now. It's like those that are

(40:15):
are rising up and those that will literally never rise,
like the actual slave class. What's funny about it is
that the slave class is completely convinced of their superiority.
They think that they are actually they're the brilliant ones
because that Rachel Mattow or Tucker Carlson for that matter,
says and can pop it and repeat it. But in reality,
I think that the true, the true hope, if there

(40:36):
is any hope, is.

Speaker 8 (40:38):
The people that are, you know, starting to actually fight back.

Speaker 7 (40:41):
Shout out to Michael Malice, who I don't really watch anymore,
but he always points out these people are not impressive.

Speaker 6 (40:47):
They're so unimpressive, bro dude, especially now that I've interviewed
so many, you know, high profile people, and certainly some
of them are impressive, but the vast majority of people
that I interact with, I interact with like, really, you know,
highly claim folks, and you're just like, I hadn't had
a congressional representative on my show last week, and I
was like, this lady's like eighty five IQ you honestly, God,

(41:10):
it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Well, one of the things I think you cannot underestimate
as a following, you say, in engineering system science, there
are these nine principles that came out that are used
in every modern system. The elites know this quite well,
so don't underestimate them. You say, there is a thinking,
it's sort of the magical thinking. Which thinks that one

(41:35):
day things are going to get really bad and then
the masses will rise up. You see what I'm saying,
that if you oppress people enough, they'll rise up. And
this used to be a thinking that revolutionary leaders had
in the nineteen hundreds, and it turns out it's not true.
It turns out that the more you oppress people, oppression
leads to greatest oppression. So it's not true that if

(41:56):
you suppress people they rise up. So the reality is
that there periods in history where you have a chance
to sit back and actually study and learn and mobilize people,
really understand the physics of what's going on, and that's
when movements occur.

Speaker 6 (42:13):
Because is it that makes people finally rise? Obviously it
has happened historically. Well yeah, it sounds like you're going there,
so go ahead.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Yeah, so Clinton. So what happens is again it gets
back to fundamental understanding of what I call system science.
And this is why the elites do not want us
to learn. This look I used to teach us to
explain is as important as getting the right food teat
because what this knowledge reveals is this concept of a
self organizing system and the self organizing system. So let

(42:42):
me give you the experiment, and I'll come back to this.
If I if you guys were in this, if you
guys were looking into a fishbowl. Imagine you're looking into
a fishbowl and into that fishbowl, and let's say there's
a fan below, so you know, if I put stuff
in there, this be blowing around but containing that fishball.
Imagine I put a bunch of white little ping pong

(43:04):
balls and you're outside that fishball and lots and lots
of ping pong balls, millions of them. What would color
would you see? You would see white, right, because all
those ping pong balls are moving around randomly. Now imagine
I took cleaned it out, and I put in black balls.
What would you see? A beautiful black, all black, right.

(43:24):
What would happen if I suddenly put in half black,
half white ping pong balls? You would see You would
think you'd see gray, right, because they're going to be
randomly mixed that centropy pixelated right, pixelated about a gray color. So,
in these experiments called chemical clocks, what they uncovered was,
under certain conditions, suddenly the entire screen that you were

(43:49):
looking at would become bands of black, white, black, white
black white, which shouldn't occur. It should be random and
it would hold and then or black white black white
this way, or different patterns that are very ordered patterns.
And the conclusion was, this is what's called a self
organizing system. So under the right conditions, with the right communication,

(44:15):
what's called a system emerges which has order to it
all right, So this is what Pegroni discovered. The simple
example is if you take a pot of water or
pot of oil, don't do this right, and you start
heating it. First, it'll look like random bubbles and it
as certain to these beautiful patterns, and then at another
temperature it'll go into randomness and it'll form again. So

(44:38):
out of chaos comes order.

Speaker 7 (44:40):
So that's like the theory of somatics. You know, it's
like a vibration on a police with sand.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Yeah, yeah, so there are So the reality is that
how these molecules communicate. That's what the physicists say they're communicating.
So to your question, Clint is one individual who raises
their consciousness and becomes the observer of all of this illusion,

(45:07):
becomes a very powerful being because you're able to see
things as they truly are. And that is the science
of systems. Now, if one person learns that Clint, and
another person learns it, and another person learns it, we
will create a self organizing system, which I'm not going
to predict. The old model of change was a bunch

(45:28):
of band of guerrilla warriors got together and they said
we're going to go take up arms and we're going
to fight it was it still a top down model,
you see what I'm saying. But in this model, we're
talking about raising people's consciousness to the observed understanding of
this manipulation that takes place, the physics of it. And
my view is if enough people learn it, there will

(45:49):
be a new system that emerges that we can't even
predict what That is sure, But for me to try
to go people say, well, why are you teaching this,
Why do you want to what's your end goal? I said,
I don't have an end goal. The goal is to
raise consciousness because then you get caught up in that
old trap of me trying to manipulate it world to
create the utopia that I think is right, which ends
up in fascism.

Speaker 8 (46:09):
You don't want to be the technocrat. You want to
end the technofoucy.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Yes, you want to give people the yeah. So in many,
many ancient meditation techniques, the ultimate idea of meditation is
when you either repeat a mantrari, you're sitting observing the
breath whatever. There's many techniques. You're trying to become the
observer and you're trying to observe yourself so you see
things as they are. So when you see things as

(46:33):
they are, over here is this world you're fucking seeing
in the political world, and you have to apply to politics, okay,
because it's a wonderful place to learn a lot. Booby Kennedy,
you know all these people, these are all characters and
their job is to sucker you in. They're the disturbances
we say in system science, so you go off your goal.

(46:54):
They're nine principles in system science. A goal, you know,
the inputs, outputs, the concept of movement of energy, transport,
the conversion of energy, and then the storage of energy,
and then the ability for you to sense it and
redirect it. Okay, the elites know how to do that.
They have a very clear goal power, profit control, and

(47:14):
they have a disturbance that they put to us to
always keep us in their plantation. Once you understand this, dynamic.
You just see it so obvious. They have no intention
of us pursuing our goal, which is true freedom health.
Their goal is to maximize power, maximize power, maximized control.
So how do we get out of this? We have
to become observant of this process, this systemic process.

Speaker 6 (47:38):
It's an education and then a kind of a self
enlightenment process. A quick question for you, do you have
any theoretical understanding or an answer as to how these
particles are communicating? And what is this God consciousness? Like,
what do you think it is?

Speaker 3 (47:53):
I don't know. Man, it's a really cool thing. I
wish I had more time to explore. But but it's
you're asking a very central question, Clint. So there is
communication among particles. So in an engineering system theory, there
are three types of phenomenon, information, matter, and energy. Now,

(48:16):
Claude Shann and the great information theorists said information. He
so information, matter and energy. He related information to energy,
which he said, information is negative entropy. Okay, Einstein, you
know integrated energy and matter equals mc squared. Right, Indian systems,
yogic systems, right of unmanifest energy, which is basically nothingness,

(48:43):
and out of that of thought emerges information, and that
thought through energy materializes everything you see here. Right, So
it's obvious thought, which I don't think we fully understand
what thought is.

Speaker 7 (49:00):
Huh do you think any of our thoughts are our own?
We spend great license psychotherapist Jerrem Rozinski He thinks that
their entities, whether you're vibrating on a certain level, whatever
entities reach you, is where you get these ideas. What
do you think?

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Well, you're asking a very profound question. Look, if you
have spent some time in different types of meditative exercises,
you will realize that as you're sitting there, you have
all these thoughts come da da, da da, all these distractions,
and at a certain point you see yourself being the

(49:37):
eternal observer. Okay, you know I am that, I am
all right? That thing right? That's you know. So this
is a very important point. What is that eternal observer?
And is that a terminal observer? One mind? You say,
But you do realize in different parts of your life

(50:00):
that certain thoughts you get maybe downloads right or maybe
coming from a different point okay of consciousness. Many of
the ideas that I have gotten have come at typically
three in the morning. The creation of side, the creation
of wishing hour. Yeah, you see these things. You visualize
these things. I learned at a very very young age.

(50:21):
My great grandfather taught me how to meditate when I
went back to India when I was twelve, and you
learned how to observe the mind and visualize things. And
these are very very powerful techniques. Now, the problem is
these techniques can be used for black magic. Because you
can visual materialize pretty much anything you want. You realize
that you are why the time I was fifteen sixteen,

(50:42):
I could pretty much materialize anything I wanted. And we
could have a longer discussion on this. So by the
time I was seventeen, I started realizing, Wow, we could
do pretty much anything we want. And I went into
an interesting state not of deep reflection, wanting to wonder
why if I could do that this, what should I do?
Because you could do anything you want? Is a goal

(51:04):
to make a bunch of money?

Speaker 8 (51:04):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Goal is to have immense right? Yeah? And I realized
that the ald So you have to use these powers
from a realm of you can take a position of
you can use them for great good or great darkness.
So you have to do this self reflection to understand
where do you want to use it. So you have
books like The Secret or Anthony Robbins or all these techniques. Now,

(51:28):
these are powerful techniques, but they don't give people the
value system on why you should use these techniques. Now,
in ancient, ancient systems of yoga, when you know, between
the age of zero to twelve, your parents brought you up,
you know, and they let you be mischievous, etcetera, be
a child. But at the age of twelve, you were
typically given to a teacher like a Jedi master. And

(51:50):
that teacher job was to, you know, make you a
whole human being. And it was an interesting model. The
reason they did this was because they didn't want the parent,
you know, the parent the parents having be the teacher.
And kids always seem to hate their parents, right, so
the parents never seem to get the you know, they
end up getting the worst of both worlds. But the
teacher's job was to make you a whole human being. Now,

(52:12):
what's interesting is during that period they didn't teach you
meditation and yoga and karate, right, it was more they
taught you to work hard, to have disciplines, right, to
show up on time, to keep your bed clean, right,
all this kind of basic shit to serve other human
beings to be respectful. After many, many years of training,

(52:33):
a decative training, then within a few seconds, the master
would transmit to you the knowledge of yoga and meditation.
It was the end being. Now it's all fucking flipped.
All these new age people, I'm going to teach you
yoga and meditation come here, and then you're producing these narcissists,
yoga Nazis if you see them. So we flip the model.
So people are going and learning these methods without having

(52:56):
the moral integrity to be good human beings. They use them.
So you do have getting back to your question on alchemy,
you have people who use these methods for great, great
evil because they don't have any moral fiber where it
came from. So the goal of a real teacher was
to develop you, to see where you a good human being.
Would you help somebody right? He would give you tasks

(53:19):
to do? Would you work hard?

Speaker 8 (53:20):
Right?

Speaker 3 (53:20):
Would you be persistent in getting a job done? Would
you give up in the middle? Would you be disciplined?

Speaker 5 (53:25):
Right?

Speaker 3 (53:25):
All these things were built in and then you were
taught yoga and meditation. Yoga and meditation were the end
of a process, not the beginning.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Right.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
It was like wack.

Speaker 8 (53:35):
Perceive broad real quick, real quick. I gotta tell a
quick story.

Speaker 6 (53:38):
Because I discovered meditation in my mid twenties, and as
you guys know, by the time I was in my
early thirties, I was a millionaire, and I you know,
the reason the reason that I.

Speaker 8 (53:50):
I wasn't using meditation for that purpose.

Speaker 6 (53:52):
But what I realized through the meditation process is that
that this is also the reason that Tony Robbins talks
about goal setting and writing down your goals, and this
is why so many people talk about that. It's like
to me, when you're in a meditative state and you're
in that observer mode, that's the only time that you're
really you. The rest of the time, when my body
is actually like going and doing things throughout the day,
and I have all.

Speaker 8 (54:13):
Of these uh you know, these exhaust these.

Speaker 6 (54:15):
Thoughts that are just popping up over and over again.
I'm basically out of control. I'm like a like a robot,
and I'm just I'm just going. I'm just like an automaton.
I'm just going. But in this meditative state, and once
you realize that and then you set these goals. If
and and most importantly, if you've been raised right and
you have moral character and these traits that have been
imbued in you through your parents or.

Speaker 8 (54:36):
Whatever aspects of your life.

Speaker 6 (54:37):
Well, once you have these goals, set your your day
to day behavior, but we're consciously thinking about it just
draws you in. And I think that's like, that's why
I've been successful. And basically everything I've done is that
once I set these goals, they I'm very singular minded,
and they just stick with me. And like everything I
do throughout the day, constantly, I'm just going, going, going, going, going,

(54:58):
And it's not it's not tiresome, it doesn't, it doesn't
you know, absorb much of my energy.

Speaker 8 (55:02):
I just go.

Speaker 6 (55:03):
But I think that there's huge value in that. And
this is why people always say, right down your goals,
but if you're building more to it than that, right, like,
because I, yeah, you build the system exactly.

Speaker 7 (55:12):
Yeah, I'm of the same mindset. Like, actually, it's funny
how your your entire what you're doing here kind of
I mean, that's kind of why I'm here. I listened
to you. I was driving a truck one day and
you know, as things get worse and worse. I just decided,
like I'm going to go and move off. I wasn't
even doing any kind of social media stuff and basically

(55:32):
from like influences like yours and others, I've kind of
just decided to go off and be my own person.
Quit a state job that I had, open my own business.
And it's like it is like a there's a form
of systems, but there's also a form of influence that
you're talking about, Like there's this like subconscious manipulation or
conscious manipulation that you're doing to wake up another person.

(55:55):
And now my goal, I guess is I'm doing the
same shit but with like.

Speaker 8 (56:00):
And this is this is exactly what doctor c she was.

Speaker 6 (56:03):
You know, plan is essentially is that to replace the
technocracy but but allow like inspire enough people to to
have elevated consciousness. And you know the fact that I
could help you on that journey is incredible. Obviously I
had no idea that I was doing that when I
was just screaming into a microphone, But I think that
that's that's what we need more of, is like, and
what's cool about it is like you don't know the

(56:26):
exponential consequence of that, like because I because I did it,
Now I have I don't know how many dozens hundreds
of people that are doing the same thing. And you
know that's that's where you can make a real change
in the entire overarching system versus just kind of having
an individual life that's one of satisfaction.

Speaker 7 (56:45):
Yeah, you can share, you can present, and then I'll
bring it up.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Let me present here.

Speaker 8 (56:51):
I'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
This this, this, this will give you some context here.
Can you guys see this?

Speaker 7 (56:56):
Yep, it's very small, but yeah, we can see it.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Okay, I can make it a little bit bigger. Okay,
let me bring it up for our viewers here. Okay.
So the reason I wanted to bring this up to
you is that it's very pertinent to our discussion. You see,
when I was growing up, you know, my grandmother practiced
an ancient system of Indian medicine and yoga. Okay, it

(57:21):
was called sidda. All right, Sida means enlightened arve is
a modern thing, but sid that included all the yoga
systems of martial arts, et cetera. And I saw her,
you know, heal people using this ancient system of medicine
where she would observe people's face right, do all these techniques.
And then when I went through my mit, you know, education,

(57:42):
I learned control system science. And it was many years
later in two thousand and eight nine when I went
back to India, I had a big aha moment and
I realized that all these ancient systems of yoga and
medicine were actually related to engineering system science. I discovered
the missing link and so let me so I'll you know,

(58:03):
so this paper is a very interesting paper because I
don't write a lot of papers, but this was written
I published in the Journal of Systems of Systems Engineering.
But the paper really begins with looking at the history
of Western medicine. Okay, I'll just give you as I
scroll through this. So the history of Western medicine really
comes out of wartime medicine, very reductionist about putting a

(58:24):
soldier back on the field, right. So it was good
for that, but it was you know, someone's hard as
something happened, or as lungs are perforated, you got to
get them back, right. So Western medicine that was really
the modern healthcare system. We've created. Pharmaceuticals, drugs, et cetera.
The paper discussed that. Now that's called reductionism, where you
look at a whole system. You don't look at the
whole system, but you look at the parts. Now, the

(58:47):
field of systems in two thousand and three Western medicine said, shit,
this is not working. Look at what the healthcare costs are. Right,
we spend more and more money on R and D,
less and less even drugs are being found. So systems
biolog it was a field that I went back to
MIT to study, and systems biology has this view of
the body. Right, you have genes and proteins and mRNA

(59:10):
and you know so. But basically you build up the
body from understanding genes and proteins. So people spend millions
of years man hours. You win a Nobel Prize for
figuring out a structure of a protein. Right, So we're
trying to figure out the whole organism by understanding the parts. Now,
So this paper discussed that. And then what I did

(59:30):
in this paper was I said, look, let's go to
engineering systems theory. Now, if you take an engineering system
scurse at MIT, they will first teach you what's called
the dumb system input and an output. The movement of information, matter,
and energy, which is called transport, the conversion, and the storage.
You eat something, it moves through your bowels, your your

(59:52):
digestive system, your stomach converts it, and then the fats
are stored in you. This is called the dumb system.
All right, the establishment wants to make you a dumb system.
Watch us ad go do this action. By the way, Now,
an intelligent system has these other components. You have a
goal that you have decided or someone has decided for you,

(01:00:13):
or in conjunction. You want to make the output of
this system achieve this goal. So you're observing what's going on,
and then you make decisions. This is your mind. You decide, hey,
I'm going to take these inputs into my body. So anyway,
I'm not going to go into this. But this is
what's called a modern control system. And all of this
is occurring in the terms of a disturbance. The elites
have very specific goals maximize power, profit and control. As

(01:00:37):
I said in the swarm video, they're watching which way
things are going, and then they put more inputs to
keep people fat, dumb, and happy. Now, this is what's
called the engineering control systems. You this is why modern
world now went back and so by the way, these
are those systems. If you go back into ancient systems
of Indian medicine five thousand years ago, these rish easies teachers,

(01:01:02):
they didn't look at the body like this, right, They
didn't have maybe they did, maybe they didn't, maybe have
the understanding of energy, but they didn't see the body
like this, which is what we do. They saw the
body in a very different way. And so in this paper,
I teach people what are the ancient systems of Indian medicine? Okay?
And they saw the body coming out of nothing. You know,
I'm not going to but essentially there's a whole language

(01:01:24):
that they developed. It turns out what I uncovered was
they have Essentially I reformulated this into the concept of katama,
which you may have heard of. Karma doesn't mean something
in the past life. It means right action. There's another
word called katama fall, which means the fruits of action.
So when you look at this, you have they when

(01:01:44):
they when my grandmother would look at your face or
your body, or take your pulse, she was trying to
figure out how much vafa pit then kafa you had.
And if you ask most of these are a healers.
They can't explain it. What I uncovered was Vath, Pitt,
and Cough are same as transport conversion in storage and
in their worldview, you met with your master, you came
up with your goal, the manas where your decision making

(01:02:07):
capabilities of the injuries with your sensor, and the the
cars where your disturbance. Bottom line is what I'd uncovered
was that these ancient systems of yogic systems are the
same as modern control systems. Here this is what I
call there was at a stone and so when I
came back to MIT, I taught this for many years,
and this is what I believe is the foundations of

(01:02:28):
modern system science. Anyone who understands first of all, this
is a missing link between all the woo woo stuff
people talk about and modern control systems. So all these
yoga practitioners, you know, you just you know you guys
ran an ad for a detoxification, right. All these systems
are processes of either transport conversion or storage. And so

(01:02:50):
you can look at anything in the universe, how right
does it affect the force of transport conversion storage? Anyway?
You can apply this to politics truth freedom, health is
transport conversion storage vatha pitta kafa. So this knowledge that
I was fortunately able to uncover really gives people a

(01:03:10):
discipline way to understand system science.

Speaker 7 (01:03:14):
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Speaker 8 (01:04:58):
Before you as the karma question, can I make a
really quick point?

Speaker 7 (01:05:01):
Okay, go ahead, I got I gotta remember it.

Speaker 6 (01:05:03):
I just super fast to me what he was just
describing that basically science couldn't answer what is the placebo effect?
It was basically there like they it was the scientification
of Woo, where they're just like, but what it really
tells you is that the mind is extraordinarily powerful. Just
the belief that taking this pill that in fact isn't

(01:05:24):
doing anything for you, or not even taking the pill,
just fucking taking the sugar pill but still having the
same outcome as the pill that allegedly is efficacious. I
think that that answers a lot. Sorry, go ahead, top, Yeah,
I was so.

Speaker 7 (01:05:37):
Somebody that we talked to that says that they're in
contact with entities had explained to us at one point
about the karmic system. David, you probably can tell it
better than me.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Right, So we communicate with a lot of potentially schizophrenic people,
which we've come to terms with is not necessarily the
medical diagnosis that it seems to be. But one of
the people that we communicate with says that they were
in a sort of quid pro quo with an entity.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
And I'm kicking the door open on Woo Woo real hard.

Speaker 8 (01:06:08):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
We're gonna go to some strange places very soon. I'm
very excited about it. At the one hour mark, it's
time to get weird. But what ends up happening is
he communicates with this entity, this entity gets to essentially
loose off of his emotions and in return, he gets
to ask some questions. Now, I'm not saying that you
should believe this, gentleman, but one of the things he
says was conveyed to him by this entity is that

(01:06:29):
the Karmic system was actually a system created by the angels,
that God commissioned the angels to create this system, and
for that reason that it's not created by God. It's
actually an imperfect system and is essentially backed up right now.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
But as well as.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Getting your thoughts on that, I really want to I'm
gonna push this into a super weird place because we've
kind of been tiptoe tastic in my opinion, because I
see we're kind of tiptoeing towards it, and so it's
the playing field is ready for this.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
But when you talk about these.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Concepts of manifestation and meditation and you say that they
can be used for the betterment of people, but also
that some people use them for negative things, and you
alluded to I believe you even used the phrase black magic.
Now here in America we can look around and see
this sort of looming Satanism across all spectrums, from media

(01:07:30):
to politics. Jeffrey Epstein's Island, for all the terrible things
that happened there, was also equipped with a sort of
ceremonial temple. Marina Ambramovich, who hides her Satanism behind a thin,
very thin and transparent veil of artistic expression, has now
become the ambassador to Ukraine for the education.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
System, children's education.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
So politics across even the world state, it seems to
have this element of Luciferianism or Satanism hiding behind, like
I said, a thin veil.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
And across media.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Right, we're talking Super Bowl ceremonies, Hollywood constantly inundating us
with satanic imagery. There is no shortage of examples that
it is maybe individually, yeah he did, he right, So
there's no shortage of examples that maybe individually could be
swept away as just happenstance or coincidence or maybe misinterpretation.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
But when you back up them, there is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
A system, and it's a very demonic system, and it's
built up when you take all these anecdotal things and
you put them together and you go, well, that's a
very compelling body of evidence that there is and a
force operating behind the scenes. So my question to you
isn't necessarily do you see the force, because I think
in twenty twenty four everybody can see elements of it.
My question to you, doctor Shievn, I'm very fast approach things,

(01:08:57):
is what do you have Satanism or or fallen angel
sort of fuckery that seems to permeate so many different
things that, especially in Western culture, we hold up and
we present to the the plebs, the the the the
slave class of the United States.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Well, if you you know what's interesting is if you
look at all different cultures, right, this concept of good
and evil has existed, right, and in fact, the archetypes
are very very similar. I'll give you an example. I
don't have a picture of this, but you know in
the in the in the Christian and the Catholic religion,
you have this deity or the archangel Michael, right, and

(01:09:42):
Archangel Michael has two archetypes, right. One is people pray
to him for healings, right, if someone's sick. But he's
also the he's also the god of war. In some ways,
he's the one who chased you know, when he was
the one who led the army against Lucifer, right when
Lucifer was trying to come up against God. And his

(01:10:04):
staff is a it's not a trident, but it's a
single pointed spear, if you've seen it right. And his
feathers are that of the peacock. All right. So here's
a Catholic religion or Christian religion, and you have this
very ancient story of the fight of good versus evil
and archangel Michael leading that. Right now, I want to

(01:10:26):
take you to a completely different religion, Hinduism. In Hinduism,
there's a story of when the Asuras the devas had
taken over the earth. There's a and it was Mutigan Karthikan,
who was the son of Shiva. Shiva has two sons,

(01:10:49):
you know, the elephant god that you've probably seen. The
other one who's not unfortunately doesn't receive that much note,
but he's the one who also rides on a peacock.
The story goes is that Shiva transmitted the knowledge of
medicine to him and the knowledge of you know, fighting,
and he too has a single spear. So it's fascinating.
Two different religions. You have these archetypes which are almost

(01:11:11):
the exact same deities. Who, Yeah, I think that's m
U r U g A N. Yeah, I think that's yeah.
You got him right there? There you go? What again?

Speaker 8 (01:11:21):
Right? So, Shiva?

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Can I also make a point to aid in the
In the picture that you're painting here, Ball is depicted
as having this three pointed short staff. There's three points
on the top, three points on the bottom. You can
find images of Zeus holding the exact same thing. Ball
was described as the king of storms and of course Zeus. Uh,

(01:11:42):
that's kind of a no brainer there, So please go on.

Speaker 7 (01:11:45):
I got to ask quick question. Yeah, we're talking about
Shiva with doctor Shiva. What the hell is going on
with cern?

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
Oh, that's a good one. We gotta we gotta cate
our catalog.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
That something up with that, Sir. I don't know what
the background on that is, but you know, obviously we're.

Speaker 7 (01:12:00):
Doing a mock sacrifice to Shiva.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Is that what they were doing?

Speaker 7 (01:12:05):
They got colt and they were like, it's just a
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
It when they're actually doing a sacrifice, right, Isn't that
what they said?

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
But also it was a mock sacrifice at Bohemian Grove
at the foot of the twenty foot tall Statue of
Minerva that the elites just a mock sacrifice, no big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
Well, look, I mean, I mean I think those in
power they do all sorts of wacky stuff, right, some
of it comes out, some of it probably will never
come out because they can and they're probably connected to
a very you know, it's going back to what I
said earlier. There are very powerful forces that you can use.
The issues what for what purpose are you using it for?

(01:12:52):
And so you know there's rituals and things that they
may be doing. It doesn't seem that outlandish to me.
These things have existed in time immemorial. Many religion's cultures
have talked about this. Yeah, my great grandfather was a
farmer and then he became essentian ascetic. But he would
once every twice a year he would do great savinas.

(01:13:13):
You know, like you know how Christ would go into
the forest for forty days and forty nights, not do
those kinds of things these repentances people did. Now, the
theory of this is if you look at the physical
body that when you put your body, when you're able
to overcome significant pain and see beyond the body, you

(01:13:35):
were able to elevate your consciousness. So that's where a
lot of these ideas came when people used to do
these penances because you were not your body. So when
you meditate and you do certain types of exercises, you
actually figure out that you're beyond the physical form, that
there's something much much deeper. So I think many of
these those kinds of rituals that people do into themselves, right,

(01:13:58):
like you know, not eat for forty days, right, do
certain types of long fasts, they were really in bolden
to strengthen the spirit, to see beyond the body. So
you have that phenomenon going on. And then at the
same time, you have the phenomenon people sacrificing other people's lives,
which is almost the opposite of that which is giving
all honor to Mammon and materialism, you say. And so

(01:14:20):
when I was, you know, in Hollywood for those three years,
when I was out there, what I noticed was the
level of narcissism that we're there, and I think the
fundamental belief that it's this world is all material, this
is it. And once you take that view, which is
a very close deep relationship with Zionism and Brahminism and Nazism,
the end point you come to is that you are

(01:14:43):
the controllers of the world and everything goes. You can
do whatever the hell you want, right. The plebes basically
are dumb and we're the smart ones. And that's sort
of the consciousness that we're at.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
And that's what and expression do with that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Wilt shall be the whole of the law, which very
much is is that entire sentiment embodied.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Why when you know when you look at Donald Trump,
when you really look at his face, you know that
he's got this big smirk like I'm better and you
guys are a bunch of dumb fucks. And if you
look at his face when he did that Vince McMahon thing,
I don't know if you've seen it where he's fighting
mw it's the same face that you see when he's talking.

(01:15:22):
It's the same actor. And he knows what he's doing,
and he knows his role, and he knows he's manipulating
people and he's making a shitload of money doing that.
And you look at Booby Kennedy, the guy doesn't believe
ninety percent of what he says or ninety nine percent.
This is a shtick for him. You look at Toolci

(01:15:44):
Gabbert talk. It does not sound like a real human
being speaking if she just reads people's faces.

Speaker 7 (01:15:51):
Yeah, I agree with it. I agree with the Tulci
Gabbard thing. Do you think that Trump is a like
because to me it seems like he's running again, like
he actually his ego was insulted at some point. I agree.
I agree with you that he is very much like that,
like you know about himself or his money. But I
feel like something's different this time. Am I misreading that?

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Yeah? You definitely are big time.

Speaker 6 (01:16:14):
What do you say to the people that would argue
he can't be controlled up? They're threatening him with seven
hundred and fifty years in prison, and they've been spying
on him with the FBI and everything. I mean, is
this warring elitist factions? Or is he truly a hired actor?

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
Look, guys, you know, go look at his entire history.
All right, He's never suffered for anything he's ever had
to do. A very good friend of mine, who used
to be the head of one of the director one
of the largest investment firms in the world, used to
advise him and Trump as he's a negative billionaire talking

(01:16:54):
on the phone. Okay, one time he met with him,
and he goes, oh, I don't know if I'm bankrupt.
He goes, Donald, you in dollars in assets and you
have two billion fucking billionaire. Okay, this guy and then
in a second bankruptcy or third or whatever is Wilbur Ross.

(01:17:14):
Remember him is the one who bailed him out, and
he got funded by the Rothchilds. You have to understand,
look at this guy's history. He has never had to
pay for anything. So I find it quite coincidental. He
gets a four hundred and fifty million dollar damages right judgment,

(01:17:35):
and I think next week he's gonna get he's gonna
make four billion dollars from the spack that comes through
from Truth Social Just go look at it. Is all
of this coincidental. And look, I did all the election
systems integrity workmen. I busted my balls, all right, Patrick
Byrne tried to pay me off, that fucker because I

(01:17:56):
was going to expose. When I started exposing all this stuff,
the real stuff, which takes a lot of work, the
flipping of the machines. I had to do all the
math in Arizona, you know, did all the analysis with
signature verification, did two clinical studies.

Speaker 7 (01:18:13):
Yeah, right, you speaking once, right, like, because I remember
that it was like a week long thing.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
Yeah, yeah, I spoke at Arizona. I was the first
one who did the Michigan analysis. And it was November
fourth when Mark Metos called me here. I was doing
a seminary here, a talk on system self. Metos called me.
He got my number and all my stuff was going viral,
doing the election system stuff. I was one who was
breaking doing all the math, the mit PhD okay, long
before the grifters. Again, Metos called me and he said,

(01:18:40):
how can we help you? Because they were trying to
hang their coattails onto mine because all the Trumpers and
everyone're like, wow, doctor, she was really exposing this shit.
And I said, Mark, give me the data and I
will expose the stuff in every state. And this was
on November fifth, right after the elections. Remember this vividly,

(01:19:00):
and we had a bunch of witnesses here and he goes, okay,
I'm going to get it to you. I'll get it
to you on Tuesday. Rona mcdan's calling for me, and
then you have Rona McDaniels offs and I said, I
said get me the data, and they said okay, we're
going to be in front of the servers tomorrow. We're
going to get you the data. You see. I have
my own data center here. We had created all the
analytical tools, stochastic modeling, all starts, a very high end

(01:19:22):
modeling to show all these very very important variations. You
can see when I did the Michigan analysis, the Arizona analysis, right,
so nothing, And then I did a tweet and you
can find it on Twitter. I was realizing, wow, is
Trump really like it seems like he just wants to
ry the election fraud thing to get money. And he

(01:19:44):
had switched from using the tagline voter fraud to election fraud.
In Massachusetts when they stole my election in September, we
put out two million these things called election fraud and
I can play you that video. Okay, we were explosing
all of this at the fundamental level. So then I
put out a tweet you'll find it, and it said,

(01:20:05):
dear mister Biden, Dear President Trump, do you really want
to solve the election fraud issue? I have unequivocal data
that will expose You can find the paraphrase like that
that started. I think it got like three hundred and
thirty thousand retweets. Something crazy, all right, Eric Trump reach out,
reaches out to me. So I have the White House

(01:20:25):
calling me Rona McDaniel, right, and then and Eric Trump,
I have the message. He says, yes, doctor Shieva, we
care about this. I go, great, get me the data.

Speaker 8 (01:20:35):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
The Trump organization, right, that's the Trump campaign has a
data A guy called Alex Cannon, and I said, Alex,
give me the data. Nothing. They sat on it. Guys,
they did shit. Meanwhile, Trump moved the entire thing to
save America election fraud, election fraud. They made a half
a billion dollars, and then the grifters came and took

(01:20:57):
my work and fucked it up. So there's bamboos and
of ballots is full. Yovonn Pulletzer. Okay, remember that they
took the ship. And this is what they do with
disill stuff, the real whack adoodle, so the opposition can
attack them, so then the real stuff gets hidden. Lindell,
he was.

Speaker 7 (01:21:16):
The one that got kind of pushed to the front
because I remember this, like now that you're mentioning it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Yes, isn't even Jovonne Pulletzer. It's Jeffrey Foolia. His name
is Jeffrey Fuliato, crazy h l y A. And there
were real people. I mean, you can't make the ship up.
And then Lindell would call me, Oh my god, doctor Shiva,
we got to have you on the cyber symposium, and
I was realizing Lindell was just selling pillows off the ship.

(01:21:41):
Every fucking grifter. Okay, here's my code, Jack pisobia. All
these people who are not intelection fraud were overnight intelection fraud,
selling fucking pillows.

Speaker 7 (01:21:50):
I gotta sell some T shirts.

Speaker 8 (01:21:52):
We got to get into the election. Quick, quick question
for you.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
So so let me just Clint. I just want to
follow this all the way through, so you understand I
was in the middle of all this. Okay, So as
this stuff goes on, Trump is just printing money talking
about election fraud. And then he had this fucking dude,
Ali Alexander, you remember this fucker. Yeah, And when I
ran in twenty eighteen, one of my volunteers was a

(01:22:17):
nutty guy. Wanted to bring this guy and I looked
at him and said, this guy looks fucking evil.

Speaker 7 (01:22:22):
I You're gonna say gay, but yes.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
Well well whatever, right, And yeah, he was banging Carl
Road right, this guy. Okay. So anyway, so as I'm
watching this, remember I had supported Trump in twenty eight
you can look at it. I gave him money. I
didn't just wear a maga hat. I put up thousands
of signs for him in the cold, right. And then

(01:22:46):
I saw all this shit right, and we had hired
a bus to go to January sixth, about one hundred
people ready to go. And then I saw all this
shit going on right with the twenty twenty. And then
I saw Ali Alexander's face running stop to steal. I said,
this is fucked up. And that's when I connected all

(01:23:07):
the dots and I realized Trump was just us. Right.
My intuition said something fucked up is going to happen.
And a lot of our Trumpers were like, oh my god,
doctor Shiva, you're being too parandig I said, no, something's
fucked up. Yeah, and I dig yeah, I called it.
I probably saved a couple of our people from going
to jail. Okay, So but let me give me to finish.

(01:23:30):
I just just hear me out with this. So the
reason I'm telling you this is that you follow this
whole thing. We never got the data. I'm the guy
who's a fucking MIT guy doing the shit for free,
write the rocket scientists. Why would you not give me
the fucking data. Why in the middle of things when
every moment matters. Meanwhile, we're doing the data, finding data

(01:23:51):
wherever we can. Arizona then hires me, right they get
In fact, they never really paid us any money. And
then when I figured out what Pulletzer was about, I
did a the night I was going to do a
video with a bunch of people exposing him, patrick Burn
calls me and he says, oh, Shiva, please don't call
out Jovon And you can go look at patrick Burn's history.

(01:24:14):
And he wanted to bribe me with two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars not to go out on him. And
then suddenly in my bank account, I find a check
which I still have here somewhere here show up for
fifty K. I returned it. All these fucking guys made
a shitload of money. Trump made a half a billion.
Then many months later and you can go find the videos.
Trump is at a big rally and goes, I want

(01:24:36):
to thank the great computer scientist doctor Shivaa Durey gets
my name wrong, okay, doesn't pronounce it right. And then
a few days later in Massachusetts, a guy is running
for governor who is part of the group that stole
my election. He endorses him. So I get an invitation
from mar Lago to go visit Trump. Now, most people

(01:25:00):
would have gone and sucked his cock all day. Oh Trump,
Trump Trump. We wrote a letter back and said, you know,
on behalf of our volunteers, we respectfully declined, you dis
endorse the mother to that. I was in Miami. I
get another invitation. We decide to go because all my
friends were Trumps. Oh, Sheva, you're too harsh. You gotta
get You know, Trump is a good guy. Maybe when
you meet him, you and him will connect. You got

(01:25:21):
to figure out how to work with people. You gotta
collaborate in all this fucking bullshit. Not everyone's that bad,
you know, all this fucking liberal bullshit. Okay, anyway, so
I go. It was a two hour meeting in a
small room. This woman, Susie Wiles was coming in and out.
You go, look at who she is. She's Deep State
runs Ballard Communications, Molly's assistants out there. And it was

(01:25:42):
here and me and he was trying to justify why
he had endorsed that guy, and I was just very quiet,
and uh, I said, the guy's a fucking scumbag. I said,
why'd you endorse him? That was a conversation I had.
It wasn't appeasing him in anyways, a two hour conversation
all through that Adopt Siva, You're amazing, Thank you so much.
You did great work. You're one of the most amazing people.

(01:26:04):
My uncle went to mit this kind of shit. But
the end of it, what I saw was an old,
tired actor, you know, a B list actor in his
room without his makeup on. All right, And Michelle, my partner,
was with me. She left crying. It was a very weird,

(01:26:24):
interesting experience, you know, you gave you.

Speaker 7 (01:26:26):
Saying he's like, not an impressive person, because that's really
the only person that I would say in our limeline
life saying.

Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
I'm saying what I saw was an old, frail, old
man who looked like a B list actor was in
his little office, okay, lamenting over his last acting Gigway,
they didn't pick him up the next time, like his
second season wasn't picked up. But more importantly, the I
felt great sadness. Leaving that room, Michelle was crying, like,

(01:26:57):
what the fuck this guy hasn't like basically that he's
a lonely old guy. His fucking daughter and his son
in law use him. He really has no fucking friends.
He really doesn't. Everything is theater. Yeah, and then do
this plate, which you know he only gives to world leaders.
You know. So it was a very So he asked
me throughout that meeting, what do you want from me?

(01:27:18):
What do you want from me? Like as oh, you know, oh,
I give you this position or give me money or that.
I said, I don't want anything from you. I said,
what is it you want from me? So anyway, a
couple of weeks later, I said, you know what, I
do want something from him. We need to start an
election Systems Integrity Institute because the quote unquote the opposition

(01:27:39):
if you say anything about an election for aud Harvard.
I two, So, oh, everything's fine, everything's fine. I said,
I will organize the best rocket scientists and we will
also be there like real deep shit science. And I
gave her proposal. He referred me to an idiot, and
that was it, you see it. But he made a
half a fucking billion dollars. Guys, Where did that fucking

(01:28:00):
money go? Do you guys understand this is no different
than WWE on a grander scale, and the pleabes are
watching this fucking show. Oh my god, he's being indicted.
Oh my god, he's been Okay, I just got a
text message, give me more money, thirty two hundred bucks
right now. Look what they're doing to me. Yep, it's
fucking selling tickets to WWE. Guys.

Speaker 6 (01:28:21):
So do you think do you think he's not running
for real for twenty four No.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
What I'm trying to say is the elites are running it.
This is a beauty pageant to figure out who will
suck Zionus cock the hardest, and whoever sucks well gets
the role. Who will I'm not only that, whoever will
convince the masses that they are not sucking Zionus cock
but working for America, but really sucking Zionus cock. Whoever's
the biggest manipulator gets the role.

Speaker 8 (01:28:47):
Okay, I know we're running late on time, so I
gotta ask quick question.

Speaker 6 (01:28:51):
You. You've referenced a few times that Prominism, Nazism, Zionism
being similar to one another. Do you believe that Zionism
or Judaism is in fact worship of the devil ball like,
what what's your what's your assessment as to the faith itself, but.

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
The areas of other people's faith and beliefs. Let me
tell you why. I'll tell you why for this reason,
because whenever you attack someone's beliefs, you know what happens.
Even the guy who never really believed in this.

Speaker 8 (01:29:21):
Belief he gets mad.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
Well, no, he gets even more stronger. It's like it's
like a nail and you hit it with the hammer,
it gets hotter. Right. So I don't want to take
people who weren't even really into Judaism and suddenly because
I say something, they're more into Judaism than they never were.
But what I can say is this, okay about all
quote unquote systems of belief in some entity outside? Where

(01:29:46):
are those spiritual things? Right? A friend of mine who
was a her mother was a professor of divinity. She
said that, you know, her view was she was a Christian,
was that a religion like Judaism should have died many
many centuries ago. You know, in my view, this is

(01:30:07):
my view. Now that's her view. If you look at
the teachings of Christ. They're one of redemption, right, the
New Testament, right of love and things. It's not about
this evil, vindictive god who destroys you and you know,
and a lot of those elements are in Brahminism, in
you know, in Judaism, et cetera. Right, it is this

(01:30:29):
monolithic God and there's not really a sense of compassion
or love in some deep level, you know, so that
I have concerns with. But yeah, I mean, if you
look at some of the rituals that not only exist
in those religions, some aspects of even Hinduism, some aspects
of those religions, you know, they have these things, have
sacrifices and you know, all these kinds of stuff that

(01:30:52):
you guys have talked about, right, and they don't seem
really anything about advancing the human spirit in a positive way.
They seem like gonna you know, maintain people in the
material world of you know, this materialism.

Speaker 8 (01:31:07):
The corporeal being.

Speaker 6 (01:31:08):
It's always fascinating to me any religion that getting someone
into a very you know, type of mentality like that,
that seems that seems wrong, you know, and I'm not
even very religious, but like it seems as if you're
going to believe in religion. If you're going to believe
in God, it ought to be something that makes you
aspire to be a better person while you're here realizing
that there is something thereafter or something.

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
That turn I you know, I went to Israel about
two years ago and I was invited to one of
these very uh to a dinner. And the woman that
invited me her husband had passed away. And he was
a guy who was a professor at NYU who made
it possible for me to go study, you know, computer

(01:31:51):
science when I was fourteen years old, before I created
that first email system, Henry Mulish. So she had invited
me to give his memorial lecture. Anyway, she had a
half son who wore all that gear, the hat, the
beard and all that. So I was sitting with him
and he says, you know, people like you would typically
not be invited to have dinner with us. I go, oh,

(01:32:12):
all right, so I'm listening. So he goes, you know,
in our religion, there are you know, we have two souls.
You only have one soul. At best, you can be
an animal. You have an animal soul, which means the
rest of us. He goes, we believe we have two souls,
an animal soul and one that can become a higher being.

(01:32:34):
So this is this concept which I haven't had a
chance to follow up because I haven't read any of
the mood Yeah, but which I thought was to me
was quite disturbing actually, because at the heart of that
teaching is saying that we're all animals, and people follow
that religion are better because they actually have two souls.

(01:32:56):
So this foundational knowledge that we are lesser beings.

Speaker 8 (01:33:00):
It's a system on a religious yes.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
And this is what Nazism is, right, the Aryan race,
the Brahman model, and this is what I'm saying. These
are ultimately political ideologies, material political ideality. So this is
that that's why you see Brahminism. Getting back to your
original question, the Hindu Brahmins were all out for supporting Israel.

(01:33:25):
You had this snake. Viviked the snake. Oh yeah, we
should put Hamas on steaks and da da da. He
had to. He had to suck Zionus cock big time, right,
you know, get under the dress of Laura Lumer. All right,
that's what he had to do to prove you know,
it's pretty horrible thought. Okay, but that's what he had
to do, right, to prove himself to as you guys say,

(01:33:47):
this satanic organization, right, this movement. But that's what you
see it. And but mind you, you know, Trump sucks
Zionus cock who did he bring into the White House.
But I'm telling you, man, he's a clever monkey. And
that's why a lot of Trumpers are so fucking confused
by him, because he's a clever fucking monkey.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
Doctor Shiva, do you see this sort of orchestrated thing
happening where Trump is playing the role of the persecuted,
maybe the unfairly persecuted, because this is theater. I believe
that at the highest level of politics is theater. That's
why it's very difficult to permeate that club because it's
a club of actors. And so there seems to be

(01:34:29):
this role that he's playing of the persecuted, the unfairly persecuted,
and that these persecutions will soon pile up to such
an obvious degree that even maybe the most staunch of
you know, never Trumper will start to show some sympathy
to his plight and kind of come over to his side,
and that this is gonna be ideally the theater that

(01:34:51):
they want to.

Speaker 1 (01:34:52):
Play out is one of the pension swinging back in
his favor.

Speaker 3 (01:34:55):
Yeah, you even have Jamie Diamond supporting. Okay, Right, you
have to understand that the purpose of the establishment, the
swarm is to maximize power, profit control. Keep your eye
on the ball, Okay, that's what their goal is. Anything,
And you have to just step back and look sixteen

(01:35:17):
to twenty twenty, what actually happened forget the good feelings
or make America great? And da da da da da. Okay,
what actually happened?

Speaker 8 (01:35:25):
We got locked in our fucking houses.

Speaker 3 (01:35:26):
We got locked in your fucking houses. And who are
the two people who promoted them? Fucking Trump and Booby Kennedy.
Booby Kennedy as a tweet out there, these lockdowns are good.
They will support climate change yep, okay, and Trump supported
Who was the only guy who came against lockdowns? Me
with using science and now there's just a double blind study,

(01:35:48):
clinical paper that came out. I was one who wrote
to Trump is and Marlin Maples got the document to him.
The White House contacted me, do this this this don't
fucking lock down. It's fucking ridiculous. Give people by the
d three Quersaton, you know, just maybe the people were
at high risk that I was the only one who
said it in March of twenty twenty. Both those two
clowns were both deep state organs. Both promoted lockdowns on

(01:36:12):
the medical freedom side. Booby was promoting it. All the
yoga people, all the people go to into all their
fancy stuff. Oh yeah, we need to wear masks and
Jimmy dore right, all of those clowns, right, who So
that's why you got Okay, what did they do when
the shit was hitting the fan? What did Trump do?
He did everything the swarm needed. He brought in John

(01:36:34):
Bolton POMPEII. I mean, these guys are like fucking as
criminals as you can get. Wilbur Ross and then he said,
oh I had to do it, bullshit. Where's his big
fucking brass balls. You went in there on a man.

Speaker 8 (01:36:46):
Where's the Are the deal done?

Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
That's what I'm trying to tell.

Speaker 7 (01:36:50):
So it gotta say, I still follow your regimen, man,
I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
A double blind clinical said, I mean, ideally you can
get the sun, but if you have if you're a
person of color, right, you have a little more melon
in you you need more vitamin D three. I mean,
I still get that video went out about a half
a billion people in India. Two hundred million people saw it.
Vitamin D three question protocol. I did video after video
after video, well pushing remdesevir go. Look at what he did.

(01:37:20):
Never fired Fauci, gave Fauci a commendation award twelve hours
before he left office. Just look at it. He's laughing
his way to the bank and he's saying, you fucking morons,
I'm doing everything that you don't wouldn't want me to do,
and you're still wearing my fucking maga hat, and you're
still giving me your money even though you have four
hundred dollars in your bank account.

Speaker 6 (01:37:40):
I shut your church down, and you're gonna vote for
me again, you dumb focks.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
Exactly, You're gonna buy my golden sneakers, bitch.

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
That's what I'm trying to say, man. And this is
what is so quite astounding to watch this behavior and
then people looking at Booby Kennedy. We have the video.
I believe in full vaccination of all Americans, but I'm
going to deliver you say vaccines, that fucking douchebag, chief
Nerd his ballsucker doing that for him. You see, they

(01:38:07):
have all these ballsuckers around for part of the establishment media.
That's what's going on, man. And so this is being
done right into your face. It's almost like the devil
tells you I'm gonna fuck you, and you're like, oh,
he's not gonna fuck me. No, I'm fucking you right now.
Oh wow, I don't think he's fucking you. Know he
is fucking you, and he told you he's going to
fuck you. Oh is he really gonna fuck me? Yeah,

(01:38:29):
he's doing it right now. It's like, what the fuck?
What are you waiting for?

Speaker 7 (01:38:32):
But Biden won't use lubs to get to get really
woo on you again last time. The laws of like
the spiritual battle say that you have to consent. It's
in every.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
Yeah I've heard about the sense.

Speaker 8 (01:38:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
So he's fucking you and you gave him permission to
fuck you exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
And I think that's the heart of this whole thing.
So the issue is the fucking house niggas want to
be house niggas. That's what we're saying. So don't what
the fuck are you All these people Trump fucked you?
If Hillary did what Trump did. Trump is the one
who created SISA signed it into law on November sixteen,
twenty eighteen, unanimous. Everyone supported Tom Rand Paul Token constitutionalists

(01:39:19):
for creating the backdoor portals. It's all in our face.
So that's why I titled this thing, you know, the
first anti Zionist president. How does that look? That's fucking
truly doing God's work, fucking anti Zionism.

Speaker 7 (01:39:33):
That must be mark go. What must be horrifying for
them to see that, just that title. They're like Jesus's
coming after us.

Speaker 3 (01:39:41):
When I when I was in New Jersey, you guys
from New Jersey, right the last three my parents moved
to Livingston, Clint, you may want to look at Livingston,
New Jersey. Okay. When I came to Livingstone, I was
really freaked out because you know, my parents were in
Lake Kaiwat. That was you know, we had a sort
of a humble house and I all these kids had
so much fucking money. I felt like I didn't belong.
I felt sort of embarrassed, you know. But I became,

(01:40:04):
you know, the number one student and the really good athlete,
and these fucking Jewish kids would be so upset with me.
I remember when I won this Math Award. True story.
My mother had been in a major car accident. You know.
It was one of those you know things at the
end of graduation or something, eighth or ninth grade, ninth grade,

(01:40:25):
I think. I go to the auditorum. The teacher gets
up and he goes. You know, typically we give the
Math Award and the Science Award to two kids, you know,
but no one even came close to Shiva. And this
is a school of nine hundred kids in the graduating class, okay,
and so he gives this great speech. I go get
the award. You know, it was very somber da because

(01:40:47):
I was saying about my mom. She was in the ICU.
So I'm leaving the auditorium going out, and this Jewish
mother comes running up to me and my dad and
she goes, your son has done nothing good. My son
Eric could have done won that award this year had
he decided to work. But he decided not to fucking
crazy shipment. But she was so fucking angry, you see,

(01:41:08):
because the chosen people of God cannot have anyone else
competing with them. And that was my life in you know, Livingston,
New Jersey.

Speaker 7 (01:41:19):
You kind of take away the guardrails of like what's acceptable,
I mean what's acceptable as like the mainstream media or
even entertainment. You start seeing these Twitter people or like
bottom of the barrel YouTube peoples, like these people are
actually impressive and they're making better content. That's Shane Gillis
is a great example of that of what happened here.
He was snuffed from SNL purposefully to make an example.

(01:41:41):
But it's come full circle where they're like, we kind
of have to acknowledge this guy because he's he's just
a hotter. So they can't they can't beat you. They
have to suppress you. And and also you have to
you have to submit to it. You have to agree
to letting letting them suppress you. That's true.

Speaker 3 (01:41:55):
Yeah, So that's that's why you know a couple of
points before you guys go, because for your audience, that's
why you know, the big elephant in the room, the
level of invisibility they do to us, particularly more recently,
right because they know we're not going to cowtat anything.
We're not going to bow down.

Speaker 6 (01:42:11):
So that is I'm currently suspended from YouTube just so
everybody knows, all right, if you're trusting my credentials.

Speaker 3 (01:42:18):
Yeah, they what they do to me, Clint is a
little more interesting. So my followers on Facebook have been
filed in fifty forty thousand followers for nearly three years,
YouTube whatever, two hundred and fifty you know, the same.
When they try to take me off, we wrote a
legal letter because they know I know how to file lawsuits.
We have two other lawsuits right right now in the
courts that we're doing against the government. But so their

(01:42:40):
goal is to put me in a digital cage, which
is even more interesting. Right, So you put you in
and you basically don't go anywhere. So that's the model
that all of these guys are doing. But what we
have understood. You know, my run for president, we have
to mobilize three hundred thousand volunteers all over this country.
We got to get on the ballot. I don't have

(01:43:00):
one of these ballot sheets here, right. We have to
collect signatures. So in Utah, which is coming up, we
need to collect a thousand signatures in the middle of
the rain and the sleet, in the snow. You have
to go out. You have to go out in front
of grocery stores and you have to collect by the way,
which is allowed by a Supreme Court ruling which says
that during an election cycle, you should be able to
stand outside of groceriers. Obviously you can't harass people, but

(01:43:23):
property becomes a town square only during that period. Well,
when our volunteers go out, the police come. We have
to educate the police. Sometimes we win, sometimes we don't.
One of our guys got arrested an electrician, did nothing wrong,
and then we have to file lawsuits. But we actually
have volunteers, guys going on the ground collecting signatures. In California,
we'll have to mobilize around three thousand volunteers. Think about

(01:43:45):
what we have to do actually to do the work.
Booby Kennedy goes to a Zionis funded pack and he
gets twenty million, and then he pays signature vendors, the
DNC and the R and C. I've never seen any
of these guys collecting signatures. I'm convinced there's a boiler
room where people are writing signatures. We never see them.

(01:44:05):
So what we want people to do is my run
for president gives people the opportunity to get their butts off,
help us go collect signatures. Why it really exercises your
citizenship muscles because you have to get out there. It's
fucking cold. One hundred people walk by, maybe one guy signs.
Then you have to go out again and again. It's
almost like a spiritual event. And then you collect the

(01:44:26):
signature and you're doing it with other people. It's an
opportunity to be individual but also collective. And in all
of this, we're finding out all the other corruption that
goes on, you say, and then we'll share that with
you guys. But the future, in my view is offline.
So what we're doing is we're literally building a movement.
And that movement if you go to Truthfreedomhealth dot com

(01:44:48):
Truth Freedom Health, Yeah, that's my main site. But if
you go to Truthfreedomhealth dot com, this is where the
rubber meets the road. It's taking all of the stuff
I shared with you, the system science, right, and it's
combining it with all fine activity. So the slogan is
get educator being slave if you just stay there. So
the thing that we've done is email was a system

(01:45:10):
right side of solve is a system here. The system
is a system of education, getting offline community building. And
as you scroll down through this, you know we have
some there's two videos people should go watch. We have
literally created an infrastructure and it's all independent. We have
our own data center, our own computers, owned software. But

(01:45:30):
it's an infrastructure to educate people on the same system
science that I used to teach at MIT, but we
made it accessible to people. And our model is a learned,
teach and serve model. You learn, you teach, and you serve.
And we essentially give ninety nine ninety percent scholarships to people,
and if people really can't afford it, we give it away.
And then these are stories of everyday people go through

(01:45:51):
this program. They learn how to think, they learn how
to fight. But our goals to get people to have
their experiences. You say, go hand out a flyer, see
how hard it is. Go see if you can look
at someone in the eyes, have a communication with them.
And then the thing is, we have a history of
winning because we teach people how to file lawsuits, how
to fight, you say, how to stand up next. But

(01:46:12):
if you go down the fundamental problem we're solving as
you scroll down through this right here, right here, this
is sort of what we've been discussing today. There's shitloads
of information out there, but in spite of all the information,
it's not like people are getting smarter and better and
more truth, more freedom, and more health. Six seven hundred
and fifty million people want to are anxious and depressed.

(01:46:34):
Right now, there's two and a half billion people on
the planet who are obese. In the next about three years,
it's going to be close to four billion people. So
in the midst of all these health videos, it's not
like people are getting healthier. Forty percent of people want
to overthrow their government. So and if you scroll down,
the reason this is occurring is because of the reductionist knowledge.
So you have all this information right there. I call

(01:46:56):
this sort of the pyramid of force, of power, profit control,
any It's like you have the actual system, the big elephant,
but CNN will give you one piece, right, Fox will
give you the other piece. So they literally drive you
into illusion. And the goal is either you say fuck it,
I don't care, I'm gonna move it way into some commune. Right,
get my own piece of property, grow my own I

(01:47:17):
don't know, sheep whatever, right, or you basically get desperate,
you take a gun and you start shooting pee puck.
But those are the four buckets that they want to
put people into. And as you scroll down the machinery
of all of this. Again, we had to make it easy.
Are not the obvious establishment. Okay, we know Trump, and
we start scroll down a little more. We know Bush right,

(01:47:40):
I'm sorry, we know Clinton's and the bushes and the bidens.
But these people right here, stop right here are the
real illusions. In ancient systems of yogic scigns. We called
it maya the illusion the people who claim they're fighting
for you. The people talk all this anti establishment shit,
but then all you need to do is look at
each one of their histories. So see Gabbert was rabbit

(01:48:03):
for going into Iraq after nine to eleven, rabbit for
going into fucking up the Palestinians. What's interesting is all
of them, I think all of them unilaterally resign as cocksuckers.
That's what binds all of them. And then if you
go down the way out of this is so in
the ancient systems of yogic science or traditional wisdom, knowledge

(01:48:25):
that you need to get to knowledge. Knowledge is understanding
the whole Now that requires a system science. Knowledge is
not information. Then you get to wisdom, and then you
get to clarity, and then you become wanting to do
something in the world where you see it yourself as
an agent of change.

Speaker 9 (01:48:43):
So, so what we've done is we've so it's been
a massive effort taking all of that MIT engineering systems knowledge,
linking it with ancient systems of yogic science.

Speaker 3 (01:48:54):
And making it into a program that anyone can learn.
And then we have everyone learned, teach and serve, and
then we get people on the ground. You say, so,
now we have close to half a million people and
we didn't impose a leadership top down. We're letting people
come from below. It's very very merit based. So we
have people are really quiet and they've emerging as good leaders. Right.

(01:49:15):
So without this knowledge of system science, getting back to
what we started, it is literally like being in a
world where you don't have the right food. And this
is why people cannot trump Booby and fucker Carlson. You've
almost it's almost like the spiritual quest, and that's what
people have to get over. Many people that come to

(01:49:36):
our movement. Oh, I was following Booby. I was going
to give them a lot of money and then I
saw your video and I had cognitive dissonance for two
days and I had to recognize what you're saying. What
you said was true. Other people will recognize what I'm
saying is true. But getting back to what you said,
they're consenting to be abused. They're consenting to be abused,
and that's okay, go fucking get abused. But that's what's happening.

Speaker 7 (01:50:03):
Wow, this is a This has been a crazy upstate.
Doctor Shiva, thank you for coming on, giving us two
hours of your time and knocking the socks off of
all of the people. I enjoyed it thoroughly, as I
do almost every time I hear you talk. I'm glad
that I'm glad that you came on and we did this. Man,
do you any any final words from you guys?

Speaker 3 (01:50:23):
Yeah, this is the final. So I have a lot
of great podcasters that we have great discussions with, but look, guys,
I'm into action. My whole life is about action. This
isn't talk. We literally have a campaign. We're running, you know,
us getting on the ballot. We have a major lawsuit
and the naturalized citizens versus natural born we're arguing that
the fourteenth Amendment, the first Amendment, rules that have every

(01:50:45):
right to run and be president. It's an amazing opportunity
for people to participate in our election. When you get
involved in our election, people learn a lot.

Speaker 8 (01:50:53):
We have.

Speaker 3 (01:50:54):
I mean, the quality of people we get are the
kind of people that you would probably you guys would enjoy,
very reflective people, people from all different backgrounds. So you know,
to the extent you guys want to help us do that.
But it is an active, living thing. It's going to
be over in ten months, but our campaign, our movement,
won't stop. But the things that will come out of

(01:51:14):
this will be quite extraordinary. So you know, I encourage
you guys to get involved. You know, it's nice to
be in this environment and talk. But you're in New Jersey.
We got to get on the ballot. Oh you are.

Speaker 1 (01:51:26):
I'm from New Jersey and I escaped you.

Speaker 3 (01:51:29):
From Okay, we got to get you know how many
signature We got to get two hundred and fifty thousand
signatures quarter of a million, sixs And the GOP and
the DNC don't have to do that. And I'm convinced
the others literally have a boiler room and Kennedy will
just pay people to do that. The whole thing is
a scam. We're the only ones actually doing it for real.

Speaker 8 (01:51:50):
Wow, it's brutal. That's a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:51:52):
Man. That's just in one state in California, about three
hundred and twenty thousand signatures in Massachusetts twenty When you
add it all up, it's about one point six million signatures.
So Booby goes and begs to a Zonus handlers and
he got fifteen million ten bucks of signature and he
goes and gives signature vendors. But that wasn't the spirit
of all of this. You were supposed to have ground

(01:52:12):
support so you could get on the ballot. Yeah, so
I'd appreciate if you guys, you know, shared with people
we're doing. This is a real movement. There's two parts,
the movement of truth for them and health, which is
educating people across all different backgrounds. We're in all different languages,
the knowledge of system science. And then you know, the

(01:52:32):
presidential campaign.

Speaker 1 (01:52:35):
That's the name of that website. One more time, doctor.

Speaker 3 (01:52:36):
Shiva, Truthfreedomhealth dot com. And then everyone should go get
a bumper sticker. These bumper stickers, you put them on
the back windshield of your car. One hundred thousand people
see it. You get to be your own online advertising vehicle.
So do it right. Because the establishment. We don't expect
to give them us any publicity. And if you guys

(01:52:58):
want to go ask Fucker or Carlson if you'll do that,
challenge him. You know it's good. Yeah, you guy should
host a debate what's happening? Invite all all of them
to a debate, see if they'll show up.

Speaker 8 (01:53:13):
Yeah, I'd love to write.

Speaker 6 (01:53:14):
Yeah, well, I am not about that action.

Speaker 8 (01:53:19):
I am all about talking shit.

Speaker 6 (01:53:20):
You can find me on Liberty Lockdown, the best political
show also Tower Gang, which you should not watch.

Speaker 8 (01:53:26):
About that action a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:53:27):
I am also running for the vice but that's really
just a talking shit campaign and trying to wake people
the fuck up, and we'll see how it goes. So
thank you again for the time, Doctor Shiva and gentlemen,
it was a pleasure as always at Liberty Lockpot on Active.

Speaker 8 (01:53:40):
Anybody wants to follow.

Speaker 2 (01:53:41):
Me, thank you guys so much that both of you
for joining us. Guys, don't forget before we wrap things up.
You can head over to patreon dot com backslash nephluin
Death Squad, and if.

Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
You do that you'll be able to.

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
Sign up at the five dollars tier and join our
telegram where We're a bunch of schizophrenic, unhinged p talking
about schizophrenic unhinged ideas in the privacy of our own telegram.

Speaker 1 (01:54:05):
And don't forget.

Speaker 2 (01:54:06):
If you're not subscribed on Rumble, go ahead and do that,
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Speaker 7 (01:54:12):
Episode We.

Speaker 4 (01:54:16):
Thank you the Great Physotist on Flasher is a one
box in the corner of the room.

Speaker 3 (01:54:23):
It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

Speaker 4 (01:54:26):
It's you can persuasion that what they see with their
eyes is what there is to see, Scott, because they'll
lash in the face of an explanation that portrays the
bigger picture of what's happening.

Speaker 6 (01:54:40):
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