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October 30, 2024 35 mins
Heidi Ganahl, Rocky Mountain Voice joins Ryan to discuss why Colorado secretary of state Jena Griswold is under fire - even from Comrade Kyle Clark at 9 News - over an egregious error which allowed passwords for voting machines to be publicized in a spreadsheet post to her office's website.

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Rep. Ty Winter joins Ryan to discuss his call as assistant minority leader, along with minority leader Rep. Rose Pugliese and on behalf of Colorado House Republicans, for Secretary of State Jena Griswold to resign after her latest fiasco in revealing passwords for voting machines in a spreadsheet posted to her office's website.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A final question, this is not the first time that
your office has made mistakes that have damaged voter's confidence
in our elections.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
In twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Two, your office sent out mailers to thirty thousand non
citizens inviting them to register to vote.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
They, of course, are not eligible to register to vote.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
That same year, your office used Colorado's ballot tracking system
to send messages to specific Colorado's encouraging them to vote,
when in fact they had already voted, causing confusion that
had to be cleaned up by the county clerks. And
now this leak of the voting system passwords. Given your
office's repeated errors that have damaged confidence in our elections,

(00:38):
which you say is paramount, will you resign?

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Absolutely not, Kyle, And I just want to your unfairly
characterizing and leaving out some crucial information.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Comrade Kyle getting his journalisming on with Jenna Griswold's secretary
of State.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
And did you hear that no duicible audible sigh from Generous?

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Absolutely not, Kyle. And I know I think she turned
forty this year, but she's more like fourteen. Just a
way that she speaks and the sighing she gave like
a convoluted explanation all these rationales and excuses as to
why these postcards were sent out to non citizens, no
one registered.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
All is good, no.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Harm, no foul. Kyle Clark presses her then, and this
is where she really.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Gives us a nice heavy sigh.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Well, just clarify this then, Given the number of fundamental
errors that your office has made that have undermined voter
confidence and elections, why do you think they keep happening?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Why do eras happen?

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Kyle?

Speaker 3 (01:50):
There are unfortunately situations that arise every election that we
are fixing as quickly as possible in the counties, and
once a while from my office too. The civil servants
in my office have largely been here through various administrations
since Scott Gessler, Wayne Williams. They're trusted civil servants. They

(02:11):
do an excellent job. The job in demand of running
elections is ever evolving. It's getting harder and harder and
harder in the threat environment and in the focus on
our elections. Come on to deliver.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Well, you haven't delivered, and it's time that she resigned.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
And somebody that was at the forefront of this entire
story joins us now Rocky Mountain Voice. The founder Heidi
Ganaal of course, former candidate for governor right here in
the state of Colorado, joins us here on Ryan Schuling Live.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Hidi, welcome back.

Speaker 6 (02:42):
Oh, good afternoon, Ryan boy. What a couple of days
it's been. And you know her, she's so arrogant. That's
part of the problem is she acts so indignant and
arrogant instead of saying, yeah, you know what, we messed up,
We've got to get this right, we've got to fix things.
We're going to put together commit and you know, bipart
is a commission of people to dig in and find

(03:03):
out what happened and how this did protect us so
that never happens again. Instead, it's like, oh, Kyle, if
you're so dramatic.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
That's exactly what that was.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
But what I dislike the most, and this one on
this interview, to Kyle's credit, Heidi from all fifteen sixteen minutes,
I'm cutting this up and editing it and she's going
in circles. But to your point, there's no accountability, there's
no apology, it's just an ongoing investigation and well, blank happens.

(03:36):
I don't think that's good enough. I don't think Kyle
Clark thought that was good enough. I know you don't
think it's good enough, But can you explain for our
listeners who are hearing about this for the first time,
exactly what happened, how egregious this error in quotes was?

Speaker 6 (03:50):
This is bad? This is really bad. So the passwords
that basically turn on and off our operating systems, in
our voting systems, like the equipment, were posted online in
a spreadsheet, and the column was hidden apparently, but it
was very simple to just on behind the column and
all that they call them bios. Passwords were listed for

(04:13):
they said sixty three out of the sixty four counties,
and with those passwords, people can do bad things, and
it undermines trust in our elections. And if this goes
back to what I undercovered a couple months ago, which
is that there is remote access in twelve of our
counties to our voting systems. So a if you can

(04:33):
get into the system remotely and you've got the password,
and you know, the list goes on and on, bad
things can happen. I'm not saying they did happen, but
it provides doubt in our system and that's the last
thing we need right now Heidi.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Gannell joining us Rocky Mountain Voices, where you can find
her in a hub for all conservative media activity, including
this program, and you could find us there as well,
and we're happy to be affiliate with her and with
that site. I'm trying to kind of square in my
mind as much as I have a problem with what
Tina Peters did as the county clerk for Mesa County,

(05:10):
that she might have been onto something but just handled
it inappropriately. Kyle Clark confronts Jenna Griswold, Well, what's the
difference between what Tina Peters did and what's happening here?

Speaker 1 (05:22):
In twenty twenty one, when Mesa County's voting system passwords leaked,
your office said, quote, the public disclosure of the BIOS
passwords for one or more components of Mesa County's voting
system alone constitutes a serious breach of voting system security protocols.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
By that standard, did your office.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Commit a serious breach of voting system security protocols?

Speaker 6 (05:47):
No, There's several things.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
First off, the situation in Mesa County is very distinct
to the situation that we are facing today. Because of that,
Tina Peters was just convicted of nine years of enc
We were actively investigating the password disclosure as part of
a bigger security region Mesa County.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Now, Jenna Griswold claims this is an apples and oranges argument.
I think it might be a lot closer to a
distinction without a difference and just varying members of matters
of degree here as to what Tina Peters did the
lengths that.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
She went to. She was sentenced to nine years behind bars.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
But I don't see what happened here, even if it
is just an oversight or an egregious error, as being
that much better. Heidi, how do you distinguish between these
two cases?

Speaker 7 (06:36):
Well?

Speaker 6 (06:36):
Absolutely, ran like we've got to be consistent, and this
is part of the reason people get so upset with
our government and the politician. We treat everything with a
political lens on it. And if Tina Peters did something
that Jenna Griswold didn't like.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
Or she.

Speaker 6 (06:52):
Claims deserved nine years in prison for a gold star
mom and what she did doesn't have the same filter
on it. It's different. It's different because it was just
a small mishap putting six hundred weeks passwords to operate
our voting systems on her website. And then the worst
part is ryan she didn't pass up and say to

(07:13):
the county clerks, Hey, this just happened. We've got to
reset all of our passwords and go after this. They
tried to kind of shove it under the rug and
not tell the other county clerks about it. And this
goes back to the bigger issue of what I've been
talking the issues that we're facing on lots of fronts
with the dropboxes, with remote access with the US Post Office,
and the clerks came out pretty resoundingly in favor of

(07:37):
supporting Jenna Griswold's claims that everything was fine when I
came out with this stuff. And I think the clerks
are just naive. They're not technology experts. They don't understand
a lot of this terminology, and so they lean into
what the Secretary of State and her office is telling them.
And I put this on Jenner Griswold. She's giving bad
information to our clerks on lots of fronts and they're

(07:57):
trusting her, and they come off looking ad and you know,
not doing their job correctly because they're listening to their leader,
the head of the clerk, and it's inaccurate information, in
some case dangerous information.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
I saw an election analyst make two points about elections themselves,
and that they must be free and fair. That's point one,
but point two they must be perceived to be free
and fair. And she's trying to maintain that. Oh, we're
the number one state in the Union as far as
perception about our elections being clean and free and fair.
And Kyle Clark even called her out on that, and

(08:35):
she seemed to be righteously indignant about that. We wouldn't
even have any suspicions or questions about how our elections
are run here in Colorado.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Heidi, Well, we don't know.

Speaker 6 (08:46):
Ryan, because we don't ever bring in outside auditors. We
don't audit our signature verification, which has been a problem lately.
We don't audit the security around our drop boxes. We
don't audit our systems, like do they have remote access?
Can people hack into them? What vulnerabilities do they have.
We had three counties a couple of days ago that
are not able to scan their ballots. We had the

(09:08):
US Post Office. We can't account for thirty thousand undeliverable ballots.
Our signature verification system obviously isn't working because twelve ballots
got through it in Mason County and three people were
able to vote in a fraudulent way. And so at
this point, I don't trust the government to monitor itself.
We've got to bring in independent, outside forensic experts who

(09:30):
can look at these systems of processes and give us
assurances as voters that everything's okay.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
Follow her on x at Heidi Ganal. That's Gnahl doing
the good work, Rocky Mountain Voice and pointing this out
and bringing it into the sunlight.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Heidi, thank you so much for your time today.

Speaker 6 (09:48):
Thanks Ryan, happy to be on all.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Right, and we're continuing with this conversation based on some
breaking news as well from our Colorado General Assembly and
our leaders in the House GOP of Colorado demanding grit
Wald's resignation over this election security breach and Griswold's office
exposed election passwords online. As we've been discussing, this was
a column in a spreadsheet like excel that was posted

(10:12):
to the Secretary of State website for all to see.
But don't worry, it's only one password of two that's required,
and you need access to the machines.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
But that's a pretty big part of this whole equation.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
It's like in Diehard where they're trying to drill into
the bara bonds and you've got one of the links
already down. That's too many, that's one too many. So
House Minority Leader Rose Paglici, along with Assistant Minority Leader
Ty Winter, crafting a statement and Ty Winter joins us.
Now he says, quote, we need leaders who protect our elections,

(10:44):
vote for change.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Ty Always.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Thankful for your time and for tackling this issue and
bringing it to light. Take us through the timeline of
how this was exposed and why it took Colorado Republicans
to make it public.

Speaker 8 (10:58):
No, Ryan, thank you for having me on, and I
appreciate you. You know, as you segued into this, you know,
the main thing you brought up is leadership. And one
thing I've noticed that Jenna does and she does well,
is she don't take responsibility. She's always pushing it off
on somebody else. And that's what's infortunate. It was a
junior staff or it's this person, it's that person. And
unfortunately color Radins have had enough and this is a

(11:20):
bipartisan issue. People want safe, fair, open, and transparent elections.
And for as much bragging as she does about the
elections in Colorado, these passwords being leaked out on the
internet is just egregious. And you know, we need accountability.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
I mean, we need.

Speaker 8 (11:35):
Transparency in our election process. We need to protect voting integrity.
And car Raddins deserve leaders who prioritize safeguarding elections and
ensuring public oversight and passing the blame and passing the
buck on down to your junior staff isn't what you do.
Any leader worth their assault steps up and says, hey,
I made a mistake. I'm going to fix this mistake.
I'm going to rectify the mistake, and we never get

(11:57):
out of that office.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Ty, I want to play a couple of clips from
this interview that Jenna Griswold granted to Kyle Clark of
nine News and get your response to it. This was
a question about when was she going to come clean
with this and make this information public? Did it take
the Republican Party pointing this out in order for the
voters of Colorado to learn about it?

Speaker 1 (12:15):
You chosen not to tell the county clerks about this
password leak? Were you going to tell the public about
it if the Colorado Republican Party didn't go public with
it today.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
So again I am going to push back on your
gotcha premise. We did not decide not to disclose something
to county clerks. We were actively investigating along with federal partners.
We want to try to take as measured of approaches
to situations as possible and gather good information. So along

(12:46):
those lines, we are still in an active investigation. Our
course remains as it was is to gather information, go
into the counties, fix any issue that needs to be
fixed out out of an abundance.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
Of there's that sigh again, and Representative Winter, why not
just come clean with this right up front, get ahead
of this and be transparent about, hey, we're investigating this.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
We don't know how it's going to turn out. But
they didn't do that.

Speaker 8 (13:14):
No, because Ryan, perception is everything, and you know how
that is. If you keep the facade up about perception
and that everything's okay, then the perception is everything's okay.
And right there we watched her dodge it again and
just kick the football down the road. I mean, and
what makes it really hard is, I mean, this is
a trend. I mean, we talked about the thirty thousand
postcards that we highlighted last time that were sent to

(13:34):
non citizens encourage them to register to vote. So this
isn't the first time this has happened. There are multiple
reasons that this has been happening. But you know, the
good thing about it is is I have faith in
our county clerks and recorders, Ryan, I have faith in them.
And this isn't about politics. It's about protecting the democratic process,
the integrity of our elections, and it's paramount and it's
our responsibility to call out any actions that jeopardize the

(13:57):
integrity of regard of elections, regardless of political affiliation. So
you know, at the end of the day, once again
in that clip, not to try to change the question,
but she's just punting the football down the road and
trying to make it sound like she's doing something and
putting the perception that they were ahead of this problem
and they were out there. And if it wouldn't have
been for the car Oado GOP highlighting this, if the

(14:18):
perception would have stayed where it was, it would have
never come out. And then once again, like I said,
we've tacked one more error onto what the Secretary of
State has done in the past.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Facts Representative Ty Winner, the assistant Minority leader in our
General Assembly for the House part of the mighty nineteen.
This is another laughable moment in this interview. I felt
ty that Jenna Griswold allowed to Kyle Clark when he asked,
who is going to be investigating this matter?

Speaker 1 (14:41):
So I just want to make sure I've got a
clear answer that question. It sounds like what you're saying
is the only people investigating the actions of.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Your office are your office.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Unless I'm mistaken, is there an outside agency there's investigating
what happened in your office?

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Well, what happened in my office is very straightforward. We
unfortunately a civil servant upload a spreadsheet with some passwords
to voting equipment. That is not the passwords needed to
access the voting equipment.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
You need two sets of passwords.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
That is the full extent of it. We disclose that
immediately to federal agency SISA that has oversight of the
nation's elections, and we've been working with them.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Working with them.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
But Ty, she claims, Hey, they're just going to investigate
themselves and all is good here?

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Is that true?

Speaker 8 (15:30):
Well, that's what it sounds like to me. And it's
never a good thing when government investigates government. Definitely. You know,
at the end of the day, Ryan, the people at
Call Routers are better than what Secretary Griswold has provided
to them. When it comes to elections, has timeber to
take full responsibility for her actions, and like I said
in the letter, she needs to step down. We must
start working together to ensure the integrity and security of

(15:50):
our elections. And this is one time I call on
high Democrat colleagues. This should not be a partisan issue.
This is an American issue, and we need to make
sure that these elections are safe and secure. And she
talks about the gold standard, but.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
With mistake after mistake after mistake.

Speaker 8 (16:05):
People are going to start to answer questions. And the
people of Colorado shouldn't be happy with the way that
she just punts the football down the field.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Kyle Clark pointed out those repeated missteps and why it
might be reason for her to resign. You and Rose
have called for that, no doubt, there needs to be
an outside investigation. Again, it's comical that she suggests that
her own office can investigate this. No, that's not good enough.
But to your point, Ti, it's going to take Democrats
coming across the finish line here in calling for her resignation.

(16:33):
Whether or not that happens. There's a lot of voters
and probably a lot in your district that you represent,
that are rightfully skeptical and suspicious of our elections and
whether they're free or fair, whether we can trust them
and might discourage them from voting.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
What would be your message to them?

Speaker 8 (16:49):
You know, my message is to the voters is first
and foremost, keep turning your ballots in and keep voting.
That's important. I mean, at the end of the day,
this isn't about politics, Ryan, It's about protecting the process.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I mean, the.

Speaker 8 (17:02):
Integrity of our elections is everything. I mean, we all
know in America that that ballot is our golden ticket.
It's we live in the greatest treat us nation in
the world. And we just need them to know that
they need to keep turning in ballots and they need
to keep voting because we need some balance. I mean,
we need balance. We must work together to make sure
that we have balance in this state. And the only
way to do that is through the voting process. And

(17:22):
at the end of the day, people need to start
writing and emailing and asking Janet to do the right
thing and to resign, because, like I said, this isn't
a bypart, This isn't a part. Is an issue. This
is something that all Colorados should worry about and should
be concerned about. I mean, you know, nowadays with technology,
I'm not a technology guy. You know, I live in
rule Colorado. Heck, we're just getting more technology down here.

(17:45):
But just saying they only put one password out is
just to suffice. Well, I've seen a lot of things
on TV when it talks about now this new age
and being able to scroll through and pull things out
of the Internet and run things through AI, and it
just there are so many things that we don't hear about,
and there's so many things that we don't know about.
And the big point is is we have to find
a way to make sure our elections are secure, and

(18:06):
we have to make sure that the public feel that
their elections are secure. And I just don't think after
this misstep that they're doing a very good job of
putting that out to the people of Colorado and giving
them the faith and confidence that oh wow, it was
just one issue and it was a junior staffer, and
government's going to go ahead and we're going to look
at ourselves. The people of Colorado do deserve better. That's

(18:27):
why we put the letter out and we demand better
for the people of Colorado, and we urge everybody else
to demand better as well.

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Speaker 2 (18:43):
Thank you so much for your time today.

Speaker 8 (18:45):
Thank you right, have a great day.

Speaker 9 (18:46):
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Speaker 2 (19:10):
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Speaker 7 (19:14):
I mean, you're gonna make me walk around the woods
for three hours on a Sunday, take a picture of
a woodpecker, and.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
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Speaker 7 (19:22):
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we politely tell people to leave us alone.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
If you get on our nerves, we'll go, hey.

Speaker 7 (19:29):
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Speaker 5 (19:50):
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Speaker 2 (19:52):
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Speaker 7 (19:53):
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Speaker 5 (19:54):
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Speaker 2 (19:56):
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Speaker 7 (19:57):
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Speaker 2 (20:15):
And you're gonna fall for it. I'm sick of that.
And you know what people fall for the most.

Speaker 7 (20:22):
That drives me crazy.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Sunsets.

Speaker 7 (20:25):
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Speaker 2 (20:29):
Day, every day?

Speaker 7 (20:32):
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Speaker 9 (20:36):
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Speaker 7 (20:37):
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Something that happens every day is happening now, you look
like idiots?

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Do you know what?

Speaker 7 (21:01):
Too? Lazy people never do.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Sunrises?

Speaker 4 (21:07):
From Harvest, Alabama to Denver, Colorado, where he will be
this weekend at Comedy Works Larimer Square Downtown. Now to
New York City. Since the last I spoke with him
about two weeks ago. Derek Stroop is our guest here
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Speaker 5 (21:24):
Hey, thanks for having me Ryan. Glad to glad to
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Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, looking forward to your performance.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
It's kind of a sendoff, kind of a goodbye tip
of the cap to Denver. You're off the better things
in New York City. Remind the folks out there what
precipitated that move and why you're heading from Denver to
the Big Apple.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
Well, you know, it is about that time for me.
I've been in Denver for almost ten years now, and
I've squeezed about all the juice I can out of it,
and I've got some big things coming up, and it
just seemed like the right time, the right move, And
you know, can you really say you're really doing it
if you don't at least swing swing through New York

(22:02):
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Speaker 4 (22:14):
Here's the way I look at it. And you're in
such a competitive field, it really is. But you've got
the goods and you know you're gonna you're gonna bet
on yourself. And the thing about going to New York
is you're never gonna regret that you did it. And
if it doesn't work out, well you can at least
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you'd never know. And I just can't think that you'd
be able to live with yourself.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
Yeah, well, you know, it's It's funny how for a
lot of people, I guess for people outside of my
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they're like, if it doesn't work out in New York,
or if it doesn't I mean, I I'm moving there
with a safety net under me. I'm a nationally touring comic.

(22:57):
I headlined clubs all throughout the country. I opened for
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saying all that. That's just me sharing my credits. So
it's like, I understand people are kind of rooting me on,
but I'm not going to New York City to make
it necessarily. I'm just going there to sharpen my skills,
put myself in an environment that a lot of Southern

(23:19):
comedians aren't in. And and you know, when I go there,
there's no Southern comics and that kind of drew me
to it. It doesn't scare me or intimidate me. I
really enjoyed doing comedy in that city, and I think
I'll be better for it, But you know, I'll just
be living there and flying out of there. My work is.
I'm not going there to get more work. I don't
have an inch on my schedule.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
And one of those inches is right here in Denver.
This upcoming weekend, Derek Stroop truly one of the rising
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that was just this year, and he really has arrived
and you can see him at Larimer that is the
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early show Friday. It'll be seven thirty, followed by the

(24:02):
late show at nine forty five, and then a little
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you spent, what was the high water mark, maybe the

(24:24):
highlight for you on your experience living here? You kind
of outlined it. You didn't like the hiking or the sunsets.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
Yeah, that they won't be having. They won't have to
hear that bit. That is an older bit, but yeah,
you know that was me kind of transitioning into things
that I wasn't used to, you know when I moved
out here. Those are the type of things that jumped
off the paper to me. Were people wearing car hearts
that were working remotely, and how popular hiking and all

(24:55):
that was. But I guess the high water mark, I
mean winning the twenty nineteen New Face This contest to
Comedy Works. It was a big deal for me. But
you know, I found a lot of my success outside
of the city, which I think is what you is,
what you're trying to do, if you're really trying to
make it as a national comedian. I mean, I've had

(25:17):
some great highs in the city, headlining comedy works and
climbing up through the ranks and doing some stuff locally,
but you know, it feels sometimes, and maybe it's because
of my style of comedy, being a Southern comic or
whatever it may be, but I'm much bigger outside of
Denver than I am in it. You know, I was
walking around some radio stations earlier today and a lot

(25:38):
of them were surprised that we had never met. And
so it's been an interesting journey where it's like I'm
headlining clubs all throughout the country and I'm gaining some
really good traction. But you know, in Denver, my name's
out here and I do pretty well at drawing, but
it's the Denver, the city I live in, has been
the last place to catch on.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
He's headlining Comedy Works Downtown that's Larimer Friday and Saturday night.
You can find out more at comedyworks dot com and
against Day tuned for your chance to win late show
tickets for either night Friday or Saturday.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Derek Stroup is our guest.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
Derek, I may have asked you a variation of this
question before, but for our listeners out there, I just
following your journey here and I find it so fascinating
the people that you worked with and now you're headlining yourself.
What was that kind of welcome to the big time
moment where you were looking around you go, you know what,
I've made it. This is my career right now.

Speaker 5 (26:33):
You know, I would have to say the first like
wind into my sales would be Josh Blue was the
first guy to take me on the road, and he
did it pretty early. You know. He found me at
Comedy Works as I was as green as grass and
it was like twenty eighteen, and he took me out

(26:53):
on the road and had me open for him in
a few different cities. And I think that that's kind
of when I knew, you know, somebody like that who
I looked up to, who was so funny, believed in
me that much. Then maybe I was onto something. And
all it takes is small encouragement like that and something
like comedy to give you that little push that you need.
And I think that was the first time I recognized

(27:15):
that maybe I had a little bit of talent. Was
Josh taking me.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Out, Dereks Troupe our guest, now some others.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
I think you fit in the mill you if you will,
the genre of comedy that I enjoy, which is, like
you said, your Southern roots, focusing on that, guys like
Ron White and Jeff Foxworthy, Larry the Cable guy who
you've worked with as well. When I say those names,
what do those names mean to you, Derek, and about
your style of comedy and how you've developed your own
kind of niche.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
Well, definitely. You know, the Southern comics, you know, were
the ones that I heard predominantly growing up. Ron White's
a big influence on me. Bill Burr is a big influence.
You know, those blue collar comedy guys really put Southern
comedy on the map. You know, I knew of some

(28:07):
other guys, but not some really labeled and branded as
this is Southern comedy and this is how we're selling it.
So as a young kid, you know, and I didn't
dream of being a comedian and Alabama you don't do that.
That's just not something you know, you feel like there
you'd have a better chance in your head as being
a pro ballplayer than you would a comedian. But seeing

(28:29):
those guys, you know, somebody like Bill Burr who doesn't
tell classic style jokes, inspired me a lot. He's angry
and he's ranty, and and that spoke to me. It
made me feel like that I didn't have to do
that Jerry Seinfeld kind of two step dance where you
set up punchline and it's this whole equation. So all
those guys you mentioned played a big part in the

(28:51):
kind of making the recipe into into what I am today.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Derek, I don't mean to put you on the spot
with this, but I just want you to respond to
it however. You see fed and you know that in
the national news there's been quite a stir based on
what Tony Hinchcliff, the co host of the Kill Tony podcast,
he's open for Joe Rogan. He told some off color jokes.
He's an insult comic. We saw him at the Tom
Brady Roast where he really shined. What do you make

(29:14):
of where the line is in comedy for you? How
you operate and what do you kind of take away
from what we're witnessing and the reaction to somebody like
Tony Hinchcliff.

Speaker 5 (29:25):
Well, there's a couple different things. You know, time and
place matters a lot. You're telling jokes in a serious setting,
it can you know. That's why comedy rooms, comedy clubs
anywhere that you're trying to curate a comedy show, that
vibe and that feeling and the way that the show
is set up all matters. That everybody understands that they're

(29:46):
about to see jokes and they're prepared for that, you know,
at a political rally. I don't think that that's people's mindsets,
is that there's going to be jokes told. But for me,
if I'm being completely honest, it's just I don't like
that type of comedy. Like I'm not gonna I'm not
an insult comic and I'm not gonna, you know, attack

(30:09):
an entire group of people for a punchline. I would
like to think that I'm a smarter comic than that,
you know, but there it is for some people. Some
people enjoy that, but that's not my style. I think
it was a bad look for comedy in general. Comedy
does a lot of great things and a lot of

(30:29):
situations for a lot of people. A political rally, you know,
not unless we dug up George Carlin and he was
there making fun of both sides. I don't know how
that would work.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yeah, very well. Put Derek Stroop our guest.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
You can watch him a comedy works downtown at Laramer
Square and that's coming up both Friday night and Saturday night.
You can win a ticket to tickets a pair to
either late show coming up. In mere moments, just a
final kind of word here from you, Derek. You describe
it a little bit, but as far as your style
of comedy, what people can expect when they come out
and see you this weekend, you.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
Know, it's definitely a fast, ranty style of comedy. It's
observational and it's smart, and you know, just my new
Hour of the reviews have been so good. My favorite
thing that I hear every night that I perform from
people that come out is that it's just so much

(31:28):
better even live. They come out because they like my
reels and they like my videos, but then they see
me in person and they enjoy it even more. And
I think that that's the ultimate compliment that you can
get from fans and people that enjoy your work. So yeah,
it's a style of comedy that you know, I didn't
take after somebody else. I'm pretty it's an outlet for

(31:50):
me and it's somewhere where I really get to have
a lot of fun. And I think that that shows
on stage. And I'm excited about this weekend. Best club
in the country and we're all have.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
A good time.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Comedy Works Downtown Larimer Square Friday and Saturday nights. You
can find out more get your tickets online Comedyworks dot com,
or your chance to win a pair in just a moment.
But Derek, I just want to say to you, I've
enjoyed our two conversations. I am rooting you on and
I look forward to keep it in touch with you
on the road wherever this leads, and having another conversation soon.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
Yeah. Absolutely, thanks for having me. I've enjoyed it too.
You're a great interviewer and I look forward to it
next time. I'll be around in twenty twenty five and
we'll do this again. I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
We certainly will.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
We'll circle back with Derek's troop then, and we turn
our lonely eyes now to Kelly Kucerra she was listening
carefully and crafting a trivia question for you to win tickets.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Heading to break Kelly, what you got? What state is Derek?
Originally from Okay.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Well that we led into the segment with should be
very easy, and that's the point we want you to win.
Five seven, seven, three nine. Text me the following your
name first and last your phone number where you can
be contacted. And this is the very important part. Along
with the answer to Kelly's question, which show do you
want to attend? Is it the nine to forty five
pm show on Friday night or the nine point fifteen

(33:07):
show on Saturday night? Specify which correct answers will be winners.
We'll have two different winners for a pair of passes,
so you and one other will be able to attend.
That's Larimer Square Comedy Works Downtown Derek Stroup performing. He's
the headliner down there this weekend, Friday and Saturday, one
last time out. We'll announce our winners when we come back,
along with your text on Ryan Schuling Live two minute

(33:32):
warning closing out today's program. Here on a Wednesday of
the day before Halloween, All Hallow's Eve.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Tomorrow and Christian Toto will be joining.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
Me live in studio with our annual Halloween special, going
to give you like a top five Halloween scary films
that'll scare your pants off, and I hope you're ready
for that. I don't know about Jesse. He looks a
little scared right now, but we'll have that during the
three o'clock hour. Looking forward to it. And my thanks
to Derek Strue for joining us in the previous sement.
What a great guy and what a great comedian. I mean,

(34:04):
this is a guy to keep your eye on. He's
going to be big time. He's already kind of on
the brink of that right right now. And I want
to send congratulations out to our two winners.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Andrew Dole.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
You're going to go see Derek Stroops Saturday night, nine
point fifteen at a Larrimer Downtown Comedy Works there and
Mills the Norwegian also going Saturday. They correctly identified Alabama
as the home state of Derek's troop back in Greenbow, Alabama.
If you want to get tickets, you can still do
that for either the early shows or the late shows

(34:36):
this weekend to see Derek perform, and you can find
that out at Comedyworks dot Com a couple texts, one
from Kimberly. I'm currently in the Ross camp. I understand
the party before person concept, but the party increasingly gives
me reasons to not and if they don't get their
bovine feces together, as Michael Brown would say, I'm increasingly

(34:57):
motivated to start voting against the two party system, starting
with the A local elections first. Kiberly, I don't necessarily
disagree with that, I just don't think this is the
right way to go about it, and that's why I
agree with Mike Rosen. I'm gonna get my popcorn ready
for tomorrow morning, nine thirty am over on KOA. Ross
Kaminski will have Mike Rosen on to debate proposition one
thirty one and rank choice voting. That'll do it for

(35:18):
me from here for now, Stay tuned. The Dan Kaflis
Show is next a wild edition on Tap. Appreciate you
tuning in today. My thanks to Jesse and Kelly for
their help. Talk to you tomorrow. I'm Ryan Schuling Live
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