Robert Cahaly from Trafalgar joins Ryan to discuss polling

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
We all agree at this table is very selfless of
you to pass the baton and step beside. There was
a perception that perhaps her hand was forced in some
pointed fingers to speak an Anty Pelosi, who you have
a long relationship with and accomplish many things with. Did
you feel that your hand was forced? And what was
your relationship with Speaker Pelosi?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Now?

Speaker 3 (00:17):
The relationship is fine.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Look, I I never fully believed the assertions that somehow
there was this overwhelming reluctance my running again.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
I didn't sense that. And although the polling and I
said Biden's polling was different, the fact of the matter
is my polling was about you know, we're always within
range of beaning this guy. Yeah, But what I did
was I think there were It makes sense there are
some folks who would like to see me step aside

(00:53):
so they have a chance to move on. I get
that that's this human nation. But that wasn't the reason
and stepped down. I stepped down because I started thinking
about him. You know, it's hard to think. I know
you're only thirty, but it's hard to think of It's
hard for me to even say.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
How old I am.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
I'm serious, I don't know if I give it my words,
Holy God, that can't be right.

Speaker 6 (01:23):
So Joe Biden on the view earlier today, back with you,
Ryan Schuling live here on six point thirty K how
and I guess in a roundabout way, he gave an
answer there over a minute of babbling that he got
out of the race because he was old. I guess
he said the polling numbers looked fine.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
Well.

Speaker 6 (01:41):
On that note, we turned to the chief polster for
the Trafalgar Group and Robert Kahley, making his triumphant return
to our airwaves. You can follow him on x at
Robert Kahley at C A H A L Y. Robert,
welcome back.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Well, you know, I appreciate me and Chara Cross's triumph
and I don't know exactly what metal but I wont
but I appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (02:03):
Well, you're more triumphant than Joe Biden, and I just
want to get your read as a polster as to
why you think Joe Biden either stepped aside or more
likely was forced out of this race.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
You know, I think that what he said was basically
true about the polling. Uh, it's a little better for her,
but I think it was about the big donors. I mean,
the problem is the Democrat Party and the Republican Democrat
Party had made a separation over the last few years.
Whereas the Republican Party used to be very dependent upon

(02:38):
major contributors, they've become much more dependent on small dollars.
But at the same time, while the Democrat Party races
a lot of small dollars, they have big money that
comes to their party. Now. They get it from business
community on Wall Street and in Silicon Valley and from
the entertainment sector.

Speaker 7 (02:58):
And so when you.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Take that much big money, and the big money says
make a move, you have to listen. And so that
was a lot of the pressure that that they were saying, hey,
we're going to hold back. I mean, Clooney kind of
sent him all a signal and so basically what they
explained to him, I think part of it was, we're

(03:20):
going to lose. You know, we may very well lose
the presidency, but if we lose with you, we think
you're going to take down the House in the Senate completely,
and that's not the legacy you want. So I think
they appealed to his legacy while pushing him at the
same time. But just this fear that the money is
going to drop for everybody because they think it's just

(03:41):
going to be a you know, a blood bath, meaning
election blood bath. Let's clarify, because clarify what's means. But
I think I think that's what what they explained to him,
and he, you know, the guy just sits back and
looks at his legacy, and probably at some point he
said that ACA still pardon Hunter, right, and they said yeah, sure,

(04:05):
and that was it.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
It might have come down to that last fact right there,
along with everything else. Robert laid out a pretty good
case for Joe Biden stepping aside. Robert, I know you're
constantly tweaking and fine tuning the way that you do
your polling, especially in a modern society that is not
as reachable, let's say, by landlines. And you and I
have discussed this in the past as well. But kind

(04:29):
of a snapshot that I'd like you to provide for
our listeners are what the lessons are that you think
in the post mortem of each of the last few
big races, that you think as it applies to polling
or how that's done. After twenty sixteen, when Trump defied
everybody and I think he was given like a one
to five percent chance of winning by a lot of
prognosticators out there.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
He won. In twenty twenty, we saw a polling.

Speaker 6 (04:54):
Data overall towards the end that had Biden plus eight.
He only ended up winning the national popular vote by
four four and a half, so that was off as well.
And then in twenty twenty two we had talk of
a red wave. We had the overturning of Roe versus Wade.
I'm not sure if that was the definitive factor or takeaway,
but it was. It was a lot more blunted than

(05:14):
people thought would happen, even though the Republicans took back
the House. So in each of those elections, what is
your snapshot analysis in the rearview mirror after those happened?

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Well, I first thought was twenty sixteen, in twenty twenty,
and you know, one of the things we're very proud
of is we have the best record of any Boeing
company in the entire country over those two years. Our era,
right is ridiculous, I believe it. For the two years
under two point four and in twenty sixteen, we actually

(05:48):
predicted not only that Trump will win, but he would
get three hundred and six let full of votes. It
is still on our Facebook and where you can find it.
We saw then that there was a huge departure of people.
What we found early on is the difference between what
we were getting from online systems and what we were

(06:09):
getting from live calls was Trump was always doing better
on the on line, and after the primaries, that determined, hey,
this might be that we have socials of our ability
going on, which is when people say what they think
the person who's asking the question wants to hear and
don't give their true feelings. So we moved to a
system of asking, all right, I understand about who you support,

(06:32):
but who do you think most of your neighbors are
voting for? And we got the neighbor question and helped
us realize what the big difference from the two numbers was.
And knowing what those two differences were, we were able
to then come back and put together poems that were
more representative, and so that was twenty sixteen and twenty twenty.

(06:53):
We honed it down actually even better. Our air rate
in twenty sixteen was just if you look at even
five thirty eight. As much as they didn't want to
do it. They had to go find up own company
that did eight states to get a lower rate than
one of the major ones that did over twenty. But
they had to give it to us because we had
the air rate that was just crazy low, I mean

(07:14):
within hence to the point in so many of the states.
And it's just because of our mixed system. Now by
twenty twenty, we were very much integrated text messages in
and with our text messages, they're very different than others
because we don't text out a link. We actually text
out each question one at a time, and some people

(07:35):
can answer each question because savvy people hasn't the cliqued
strange links, and we know that that's the most expensive
way to do it, and it takes a lot more time,
but it's more accurate. And it's also this day and age,
I don't know who you're talking to under fifty just
answering the phone with a voice from a number they
don't recognize, but it ain't regular people. So that's why

(07:58):
I think that all live calls aren't working. I mean,
I can't really explain what they did in twenty sixteen.
I understand they didn't understand about the neighbors and how
to pold that kind of question. And in twenty twenty
they were still getting little of that wrong, not understanding
that people don't want to admit their voting for Trump
and adjusting for that. And of course we did, and

(08:21):
we understood that. Now. In twenty twenty two a very
interesting year because if you break it down and look
in the states that had a US Senate race on
the ballot, the Democrats built their full throttle get out
the vote on the ground machine, and states that did
not have US Senate races they didn't employ that. That's

(08:44):
why the Republicans did so well and picked up seats
in California, that picked up seats in New York. The
Republicans came within five point to winning the governor's race
in New York. We the only people saw that coming either.
But in the states of the US Senate race, they
built a machine. And when that machine is in place,
their turnout mechanism and whatever else is involved, and we

(09:05):
sometimes refer to as sheinanigan, but when that machine is
in place, that can overwhelm two a three point polling advantage.
And that is exactly what happened in a lot of
the states. In some states they set records. I mean
Florida set records, North Carolina even set records for Republicans.

(09:27):
California I mentioned, Yeah, California had some records, ship New
York had records that there were a lot of big
votes in the country. But those US Senate states they
built that machine. Now that brings us to twenty twenty four.
So the question is, and I tell people when they say, oh, well,
Trump's leading by one in your polls, you think Trump's

(09:47):
will win, And I'm like, want enough. I know what
the Democrats get out and the load is like, I
know what that machine looks like. And if you think
you're going to win Pennsylvania because you're up by one,
you're crazy doing a win Pennsylania. On being up by one,
you're not gonna win Arizona. Only being up by one,
you're not gonna win Georgia. That way. They better do

(10:07):
better than that. They've got to be willing this thing.
There is no comparison between the two parties. I would
wish I could tell you there is, but there's none.
The Democrats put hundreds of people on the ground, they
had got they have opened offices. I mean when the
GUF tells you all the stuff they're doing. And I'm

(10:27):
not blaming them because they don't have the money the
Democrats do.

Speaker 8 (10:30):
But the fact.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Is, ask them how many people they've got, and when
they tell you a battle ground state has less than
five hundred people, that's bad. That's very bad. That I
was that one kop racial district in Nebraska. They've got
the Democrats. I like forty people on the ground one
copressal district in Nebraska. They are playing for keeps and

(10:54):
the problem is the Republican Party is completely handcuffed by
a by tons of these grifters who get control of
these gazillionaires, give their super packs two one hundred, mit,
all this kind of stuff, and we don't know what
the money goes. I mean, the Trump Kim hay has

(11:15):
done a great job. Make America Great Incorporated has done
a great job. From the other packs are either running
terrible ads or they're missing an action. Some of them
are telling donors they've got this great system that's going
to turn out all these voters. Some wet, full nonsense.
But they're soaking hundreds of millions of dollars out. So

(11:38):
can some consultant have another Ferrari, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
Well, he's the chief the GFIDS, he's the chief poster
of the Trafalgar Group.

Speaker 6 (11:47):
You can hear him now, Robert Kahali, you can follow
him on x at that handle, Robert c A h
A l y interesting analysis, Robert, And it really takes
me to a couple of questions. But I'll try to
pinpoint it in your analysis, and that is, these polls
have been somewhat durable, at least since Harris has entered
the race in unprecedented fashion, and what you think might

(12:09):
be inflection points.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
Really haven't moved those numbers much.

Speaker 6 (12:13):
Whether it's an assassination attempt or two against Donald Trump,
whether it's an anticipated DNC bounce or an Oprah sit
down interview for Kamala Harris, these numbers aren't moving a
whole lot. Is it's simply a story of however people
feel about Donald Trump that is baked into the cake,
and Kamala.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
Harris is just the not Trump vote.

Speaker 6 (12:35):
And if so, how much do you anticipate these poles
can even move between now and November fifth, if at all?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I think what you just said is exactly right. It
is a not Trump vote. As of right now, and
there's nobody who doesn't know what they think of Donald Trump.
And right now, when you know who Donald Trump is
and you really don't know who Kamala Harris is, then
you might be inclined to just go for Harris because

(13:04):
you don't like Trump. Because a lot of what happened
in twenty twenty was people who didn't like either Biden
or Trump just said, well, you know, Biden's kind of
the moderate, seemed to be stable. I'll just do that. Now.
There's a lot of buyers remorse from people who did that.
So what has to happen is if the Republicans want

(13:24):
to be successful, they had got to define why not
liking Donald Trump is not a good enough to reason
to vote for her. That is what they have to
define that. They had to convince people with her record
that she is very dangerous. You better hold your nose

(13:45):
note for Donald Trump. That's what they have to do,
because that has a lot new why he did Hilly.
They weren't crazy about Trump, but they knew it didn't
like Hillary. And so as long as this race is
referendum on Trump, Trump's looking at uphill climb. When this
becomes a referendum on fur. Then people who are on

(14:06):
the fence can be moved. But more important than anything
is this is a race to seeven turn their base
out and who can expand their base. And so that's
why this is so important, and that's why the Democrats
advantage on the ground is so scary. Do I think
there are people who are not admitting that the Trump
and the polls? Yes, are there enough to overcome what

(14:30):
the Democrats do? I don't know the answer to that yet.

Speaker 6 (14:33):
One state in particular, Robert, This will be my final
question for you, and we really appreciate your time. We
know how busy this time of season is for you,
especially in an election year. But Susquehanna just comes out
with a poll for Pennsylvania deadlocked Harris Trump forty six all.
Muhlenberg College, Pennsylvania, same thing, deadlocked Harris Trump forty eight.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
All.

Speaker 6 (14:52):
This is really reflective of the nation as a whole.
We know that Pennsylvania is not only the Keystone state,
it might be the bellweather state this entire election. It
could come down to Pennsylvania's nineteen electoral votes, and it
might be an indicator too of where the rest of
the country is going. What is your analysis of Pennsylvania
this time? I think ground game is going to be
a lot of it. Like you said, on either side,

(15:14):
what do these numbers tell you? And what are you
looking for in Pennsylvania?

Speaker 2 (15:20):
What I really I think that the key in Pennsylvania
is I think Trump's going to have to go onto
that thing with at least a two and a half
point lead to actually win Pennsylvania. But I think that
is possible. It's in the end, it is just going
to be hard to convince those same blue collar workers

(15:42):
who could relate to and trusted Biden that they can
relate to and trust her. That is going to be
a hard sell for all, it really is. And so
I think that in the end, this is a state
that Trump can win. He just needs to keep focus
on it and keep reminding people. I mean, the one
thing we've seen is that I mean, hey, the guy

(16:06):
who told everybody what was going on was Bernie Sanders.
I think it was on Faith the Nation. She said,
do you believe Scott my hairs is actually progressive? And
he said, yes, I believe she's aggressive, But right now
she's saying what she has to stay to win and
that's and that's the message that works. The message we've
seen most effective is this lady is saying what it

(16:28):
takes to win the election, but that doesn't mean that's
what she believes or house she'll govern. He's done it before.
He is what you needed to be right now, but
she won't be what you want to be when she wins.
And once the people become convinced of that, I think
Pennsylvania will be easier and a lot of a lot
of a lot of these states will will like not

(16:51):
But the fact that polic groups that don't usually do
any favors for Republicans are saying that the states even
tells me we're about to go on the field to
get at touched Vani in the next couple of days.
I expect Trump is probably up. Because when people who
would do anything to report a Paul with her up can't.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
Do it, that to outs you something, it does tell
you something.

Speaker 6 (17:13):
It tells you to stay tuned and keep an eye
out for Trafalgar polling in Pennsylvania again deadlock by most accounts,
fracking has got to be a big issue here. We
know that she's supposedly flip flopped on that, but we
played you the Jimmy Fallon cut from a few years
ago where she was dedicated to ending fracking and that
is such a big issue with so many jobs on
the line in the Keystone State. Follow him on exit,

(17:35):
Robert Kahali. That's c Aha l Y of course, the
chief folster at the Trafalgar Group. Robert, always great information
and analysis. Thank you so much for your time, and
we'll touch base again soon.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Okay, good to talk to you.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
Have a good day, are you as well?

Speaker 6 (17:49):
Robert Kaheley joining us here on Ryan Shuling Live, Your reaction,
your thoughts five seven seven three nine. We're keeping the
show on the rails here in this first hour, and
I'll be talking to Cheryl Chumley of the Washington Times.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
Coming up next our number two.

Speaker 6 (18:05):
And as we kind of move along here, it looks
and it feels like it's going to be a free
for all. I got all kinds of surprises that I
don't even know about. We have Alexa in studio here.
We have Kelly of course alongside your text at five
seven seven three nine. This is the last show I
will do in my forties. This is the last day
of me at age forty nine, and one of the

(18:26):
things I want to talk about going to break. I
don't know who arranged for this, but the best birthday
cake I've ever gotten from Jack Phillips and Masterpiece Cake Shop.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
So I gotta check with.

Speaker 6 (18:37):
These two hooligans, Alex and Kelly and ask them how
this got done?

Speaker 5 (18:42):
Talking about what did we do? How did that happen?

Speaker 3 (18:45):
We didn't, We did nothing.

Speaker 6 (18:47):
It's got a microphone on it, it's got Detroit Lyons
logo on it, it's got to Detroit Tiger's logo on it.
Happy fiftieth Ryan, Yeah, thank you Jack Phillips, the best
cake baker in all of Colorado for that. Follow her
on x at C Cage Chumley, Cheryl Chumley our guest
here on Ryan Schuling Live. Cheryl, Welcome back.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
You.

Speaker 8 (19:10):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 6 (19:11):
Now take us through what you found out in writing
this article and the level of detail that you're able
to find about this specific gang, which we know all
too well about here in Aurora. That there's been canaries
in the coal mine like John Fabricatory and Dan J.
Jirinsky sounding the warning bell, but a lot of people
trying to downplay it. And yet it's becoming a problem

(19:33):
in New York City and elsewhere nationwide.

Speaker 7 (19:36):
Yeah, so this gang is born out of Venezuela's prisons, right,
and they come across the border, the border that's really
a sieve under this administration, and they don't stay on
the southern part of the United States. They're steadily spreading
all across America, right Colorado, Chicago, New York City. And

(20:00):
there are estimates that they are engaged in battles right
now with the gangs that are already here in America
basically over territory, and the estimates are that they could
grow tenfold in the next few months, few years, especially
if Kamala Harris were to win in November. You can

(20:20):
guarantee that this open border policy will continue that allows
such gangs in America in the first place.

Speaker 6 (20:27):
And you mentioned Kamala Harris Cheryl, and it was not
that long ago, i think within the last week or so,
where she gave a speech and she was openly mocking
Donald Trump's notion of mass deportations.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
Like, how are you going to do that? You're going
to raiding people's homes.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
And of course it's to conflate the two things, whether
it's these violent gangs trend de Aragua Venezuelans that have
been like Donald Trump says, and he's been proven right
yet again, they're not sending their best. They're coming from
mental asylums, prisons, et cetera. But this is a Democratic
play by Kamala Harris and others to say, no, these
are people that are just looking for a better life.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
For the most part, this.

Speaker 6 (21:02):
Is a minute minority of the faction of illegals that
are in this country. So a deportation would be xenophobic, racist, etc.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
What do you make of her stance.

Speaker 7 (21:13):
On this, Well, she's borders are right, so of course
she would know best. And I said that sarcastically. Look,
it's been the Democrat playbook for a very long time now,
especially under Black of Law. But I remember, going back
twenty twenty five years, the Democrat Party has been really
looking for ways to let illegals into America because they

(21:35):
think it will solidify their voting.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Page for the years to come.

Speaker 7 (21:39):
And it's just been under this administration's historic levels of
illegals coming across America, and it's been the Democrat strategy
to go out there and in the media with their
boot liquors in the media fawning over them and allowing
them to get by with these lies to say that
the border is safe. But the border issues that we're

(22:01):
seeing now, they're in everybody's backyards. These aren't illegals that
are just flocking to the main cities. These are legals
who are bringing their cartel mindset with them, their drug traffickers,
they're human traffickers, they're sex traffickers. And this isn't confined
to just set areas in America where the Democrat controlled

(22:23):
cities are. These are in communities, in our backyards, and
so they're impacting all Americans of all walks of life.
And for Kamala Harris to make statements like that just
is more of the same from the Democrat Party.

Speaker 6 (22:38):
Cheryl Trumbley Washington Times. He is also the host of
the Bold and Blunt podcast. You can find that online
as well. Looking at the policy position, the shaping, the
framing of this for voters, Cheryl, we saw it a
little bit during the debate. We've seen it in some
of the canned speeches for Kamala Harris. He's going to
a sit down interview with Stephanie Ruhle that'll be more

(22:59):
like massage on MSNBC that was just announced. But there's
going to be an attempt by the Harris campaign to
frame this like, well, Donald Trumps submarined this bipartisan Senate
bill that Senator Langford in Oklahoma worked on and they
were at a consensus, but he wanted it to run
on it as an issue rather than actually solve the problem,

(23:21):
when all along, the only reason this problem really exists
in the first place is because the Biden administration undid
all of Trump's executive orders like remain in Mexico, ending
catch and release, and policies along those lines. How effective
do you think that framing will be for them?

Speaker 7 (23:38):
I don't think it will be very effective because I
think the American people by and large are aware that
when it comes to border control, same with foreign policy,
and same with the economy. By the way, that it's
Donald Trump that takes the leads, and poll after poll
after poll shows this. So I think Kamala Harris and
the Democrats will continue to carry that narrative forward, but

(24:01):
it's not going to prove to be very effective. And
they're also going to try and paint Donald Trump, as
they always do, as a racist who just wants to
unleash his mass deportation across America, and they're going to
try and paint that is something that's separating poor children
from their mothers and so forth. But really what it's
all about, and I know that there are conservatives that

(24:24):
have questions about how does mass deportation work that Donald
Trump promises it's the narrative, right because if you go
back in time, before Joe Biden was even elected and
took over the White House, the narrative from his camp
was that he was going to do a one to
eighty on Donald Trump's border controls, and that led to

(24:45):
this huge ground swell and the care events that we
saw coming up from points South consistently. Donald Trump's narrative
will immediately once he wins in November. It will immediately
stop the flow of all this illegal migration into America,
and it will put those in this country now illegally

(25:05):
on notice that they need to go back under cover.
So really it's the narrative combined with the action of deportations,
which Kamala Harris is going to continue to paint as
something racist.

Speaker 6 (25:18):
Cheryl Tremley Washington Times joining us her latest op ed
ties in to what's going on here in Aurora, which
is why I reached out to her in the first place.
Following up on my conversation with John Fabricatory, John just
told me the producers of Doctor Philip reached out and
the date has been set for his appearance with Doctor
phil I'll get into that a little bit later on
in the program, but you can read her article violent

(25:40):
Venezuelan gang trend de Aragua rapidly growing nationwide amid Biden
border badness. One more question, Cheryl, that is about the
state of the race here as we stand on September
twenty five. November five is the election. We've got the
month of October in between. It's typically been a strong
month for Donald Trump. We're looking for inflection points. There
doesn't appear to be another presidential debate. There'll be one

(26:01):
vice presidential debate between Senator jd Vance and Governor Tim Walls.
I mentioned the sit down interview in quotes that Kamala
Harris is going to do with Stephanie Rule in MSNBC.
Do you see any more watershed moments where the race
could turn or do you think we're at where we're
going to be On November fifth Right now.

Speaker 7 (26:19):
I think we're at where we're going to be. The
only movement I can see is Kamala Harris falling even
more out of favor with the American people. She's not likable, right,
which the low information voters always go for the likability facts,
or they don't analyze the issues or look at the
platform so much. It's just a sort of feeling of

(26:41):
who they like better, who they'd like to have a
beer with more. And Kamala Harris doesn't even bring that
to the table. And she has a string of failures
as vice president, and when she does go and speak
on the public platform, you know, she sounds like an idiot.
It's just the latest Oprah interview she had, it just
showcased her is incapable of answering any question and question

(27:06):
in a straightforward manner. And I don't think voters like that.
I think there are still some in the Democrat Party
who are critically thinking, and they can see that Kamala
Harris is not going to bring this country in a
direction that differs any from what Joe Biden gave us,
meaning a higher inflation, more national security risks, and just

(27:27):
businesses depressed and the economy continuing to go down.

Speaker 6 (27:32):
She's the host of the Bold and Blunt podcast. You
can find her op eds at the Washington Times and
you can follow her on x at C K.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
Chumley.

Speaker 6 (27:39):
Cheryl Chumley our guest this afternoon, Cheryl, thank you so
much for your time. Always enjoy our conversations. I look
forward to the next one.

Speaker 7 (27:46):
Thank you, and happy birthday to you. I hear you
have one tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
Thank you, Cheryl.

Speaker 6 (27:51):
It's kind of a big one, kind of a big
round number, halfway to one hundred, So thank you.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
So much for that.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Thank You're welcome, all right.

Speaker 6 (27:58):
I appreciate that, cheryl' le joining me. And of course, yes,
tomorrow is my birthday. I share it with Serena Williams
and the late Olivia Newton John. Those are some fun
facts for you in this time out we come back.
Barry Miller going to join me. I've been participating in
his Saturday morning programs for years now. It'll be his
first appearance on this program to tell you more about

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Vestera turnkey investments and how you can find out more.
Looking forward to that when we come back after this.
Ryan Schuling live on six point thirty K how Berry,
first time we've joined me on a conversation on this side.
It's kind of a parallel universe right now.

Speaker 8 (28:36):
It's a great it's a great universe right now. Happy
to be here, so very happy.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (28:41):
And take us through, first of all the contact information
barry where people can find out more, whether that's online
or contacting you directly.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
Want to make sure we get that front and center.

Speaker 8 (28:50):
Yah, yeah, yeah, Well let's take three steps of A
good call number is three zero three eight eight eight
three seven eight eight. And a good way to find
out more from our website is My Biggest Return dot Com.

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And a third way happens to be my wife's birthday.
This Saturday, September twenty eighth, we're doing a ninety minute
live We only do those three times a year. This
is the last one for this year, live seminar in
the Denver Tech Center and it's ninety minutes ten o'clock
this Saturday morning, right after the live.

Speaker 6 (29:34):
Show My Biggest Return dot Com. Your wife an early
liber like me, my birthday tomorrow hers on the twenty year.

Speaker 9 (29:41):
Oh that's why I said, he that take us through
the evolution of what you've been focused on, you know,
Over these six years that I've been here, You've been
part of the American real estate network with Barry and
Larry that has evolved now into what you're doing.

Speaker 6 (29:58):
How does that evolution take place? And what took you
to where you are right now?

Speaker 8 (30:03):
Yeah? Yeah, what took me here is the need that
consumers have to have a really, really smart and heavily
researched wealth building tool. The tool is residential real estate.
Where I've been in forty some years, you know, very

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successful career, but I have wound down my career in
the last six to eight months so that I could
be full time with vest Era. So our customers, all
of them now have returns of over forty percent per year.
And it's about time that someone put little pieces together

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of securities industry and real estate. We are not a
securities firm, that's not a real estate brokerage firm, but
the best of both worlds, so that consumers could have
heavy research working for them and forty to fifty or
more percent returns per year consistently and safely.

Speaker 6 (31:09):
You can hear his Vista a turnkey well building show
each and every Saturday from eight am to nine am
right here on six point thirty k how and as
Barry stated, find out all this information. I know there's
a lot of numbers stuff flying at you, but if
you remember my biggest return dot com that's the central hub,
you'll find everything out. You'll see his smiling face there
wearing a very patriotic tie.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
I'm looking at it right now. And a seminar coming
up in.

Speaker 6 (31:32):
DTC Denver Tech Center, like you mentioned, Barry Andrwive's birthday
coming up Saturday from ten am to eleven thirty am
that's right after your show.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
Basically tell us what.

Speaker 6 (31:42):
People can expect when they show up to one of
these seminars, what they're.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
Going to get.

Speaker 8 (31:47):
They're gonna see what then, what the truth is. So
many people think well forty fifty percent that's too good
to be true. Will come out and see what true
is and how it works for you. It's really a
fun PowerPoint, but fun fun presentation, detailed presentation in a

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fun manner. How it works for you when you wanted to,
when you ready, when you're ready for forty or fifty
percent or more return on your money, that's what it'll do.

Speaker 6 (32:26):
And then finally, Barry, your level of involvement of your
wife in this is it a mon pa operation and
the purest sense, how does that work?

Speaker 8 (32:35):
No, she is not involved at all. But when I
heard it was your birthday, I thought, oh, okay, I
will just say Saturday is my wife's birthday. But I'm
just saying, but no, happy birthday to you. That it
was all about you.

Speaker 6 (32:48):
Well, I appreciate that, Barry. I know she voices some
of your commercials though right.

Speaker 8 (32:52):
Yes, yes she does. She actually is suffering from Parkinson's disease.
So when I hear a voice on the commercial, it,
you know, grabs me a little bit every time.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
I'm sure that it does.

Speaker 6 (33:04):
And I know that Brett Fahr of the all time
great quarterback was just diagnosed with the same as well. Well,
my best to your wife, Happy birthday to her.

Speaker 8 (33:12):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (33:12):
I hope you have a great weekend, Barry, and I
really appreciate you doing this, and I'll see you on
another Saturday coming up.

Speaker 8 (33:18):
Well, happy times to all your listeners. Listeners, you get
such good information with Ryan there, and Ryan's so glad
to know you. Thank you, so.

Speaker 6 (33:28):
Glad to know you, Barry Miller. And again that seminar
is coming up this Saturday. Ten am to eleven thirty am.
If you want to find out more, it's right here
in DTC. That's my biggest return dot com. And you
just heard from Barry Miller. He is the host of
the Vestera Turnkey Wealth Building Show eight am to nine
am each and every Saturday, right here on six thirty

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K How we're getting into our number two.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
It's my last show of my forties.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
I've been told there's some crazy stuff, shenanigans, tomfoolery.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
And high jinks. He's playing still totally lying. Yeah, that's
Kelly Cacerra. Alexis here too.

Speaker 6 (34:03):
All of you as well five seven seven three nine
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