October 22, 2024 • 34 mins
From Amendments G through K, including a removal of the state ban on same-sex marriage and removal of bail for those charged with first degree murder, to Amendments 79 (abortion) and 80 (school choice)... from Propositions JJ (excess sports betting tax revenue) and KK (6.5% tax on all guns and ammo) to Propositions 127 through 131, including truth in sentencing for serious felonies and ranked choice voting... Ryan and Kelly break down their positions on each issue for listeners to consider in making their own choices.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The election day is just over two weeks away, and
the fight for every single last undecided vote in battleground
states is intensifying. Vice President Kamala Harris's targeting disaffected Republican
voters by hitting the trail with Liz Cheney in the
crucial blue Wall states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Cheney
was a powerful Republican congressman, and today she called Harris
(00:21):
a responsible adult. As for former President Donald Trump, he
was back in North Carolina again pushing false claims about
FEMA and immigrants, as after he spent the weekend slinging
a crude insult at Harris, engaging in lewd locker room
talk about the late golfing legend Arnold Palmer, and staging
a campaign stunt at a Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
McDonald's real mystery here back on Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
So we go from the horror genre to the mystery genre.
Who is Nora O'Donnell voting for?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And moreover, who does CBS News want to win?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Kelly go I.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Think we know.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
This could not have been more one side, excidedly written. Yes,
if you tried to make it that way in a
comedic way, like I might do on this show, and
I'm a clear partisan, and I come right out and
say it. They try to pretend to be neutral in
this setting. No O'Donnell was one of the co moderators
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of a presidential debate, a vice presidential debate with JD.
Vance and Tim Walls, and you just heard it there.
If I was the anchor and that script came before
me and I didn't write, I mean, what wait a minute,
like this is completely biased one side, one direction. We
can't report like this. They have no shame anymore, Kelly.
(01:46):
If they ever did, and they're not trying to hide.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
It, well, definitely not CBS. I mean they went ahead
and edited that sixty minutes interview with Kamala So at
this point they're all just they're all coming out in
saying exactly what they feel. And the unfortunate part about
that is that they're trying to make themselves up to
not be opinion hosts when they are.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
They're not really reporting the news.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
All I'm saying is just come out and tell us,
be honest with where you stand. I am. It feels great,
you know, and I'm going to tell you if I
find a problem with something President Trump says or does.
And I'm going to tell you if the Democrats make
a good move and it was wise for them to
do something. Now you're going to find that I have
an opinion and I come from a certain point of view,
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but it's honestly my point of view that i'm telling
You're free to disagree. That's fine, but I'm not presenting
it to you as if it were fact and that
I had no agency in it or decision making ability
to buy for Kate between the two and decide whether
or not one is fact one is fiction. I'm just
above the fray and I'm just reporting the news as is.
I'm not doing that here obviously as an opinion host,
(02:56):
but I'm going to be upfront with you about my
honest breakdown of something. Nobody's gonna pay me to say something,
nobody's going to pay me not to say something.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
iHeart Dave Tepper. My bosses here have never come in here.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And said, well, we need you to pump this and
pump the brakes on this. Never I'd be totally forthright
if I told you, Look, the powers that be are
telling me I can't say this or that hasn't happened.
I think Kelly would corroborate that, and she would know
because I would have told her about it. On this
notion about I don't have the clip in front of me,
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but Kelly, as best as you could summarize it, apparently,
Donald Trump in Latrobe, Pennsylvania talked about its famous native
Arnold Palmer and his manhood.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Can you give me the context of that lie? Yeah? Sure.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
So basically he was making a joke that he would
go into the locker room with the pros and that
the pros would come out and be and basically made
some sort of a reference to that's a manly man.
He's got a lot of man in him, you know.
And I know because I like the women, and you know,
but I got to give I got to give respect,
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what respect to do?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You know?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Something like that.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
So was this in kind of a joking fashion.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Yes, yes, absolutely, And everybody you know in the mainstream
media took it way too seriously.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
It was said in jest.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
It He wasn't making fun of Arnold Palmer or anything
like that. He was just simply kind of saying, Arnold Palmer,
you know, might have a good.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Okay, Well, there are there are many historical figures that
there are kind of these tall tales about or they're
accurate and they're based in fact, in fact. In a
recent film Saturday Night that I saw, they made mention
the fact J. K. Simmons portrays Milton Burrell and he
was legendary in.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
The manhood department.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
He just that's something that followed him throughout his entire
career in life. Another person along these lines was Lyndon
Baines Johnson LBJ was notorious for kind of flaunting this
and intimidating people and using it as kind of a cudgel.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Literally, wouldn't he go skinny dipping?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
He'd do it intentionally right in front of the Secret Service, Yeah,
right right in the Yeah. And you know he would
a little graphic here for the kiddos, but he would,
you know, use the go number two in the bathroom
door wide open.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Secret Service didn't care. He's one of these guys.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
He's gonna do whatever the blank he wants and you're
just gonna have to deal with it. And he would
do it for shock value, and I think it was
again designed with intent and intimidation. So LBJ, Milton Berle,
and apparently Arnold Palmer.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
We learned this.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Well, somebody that picked up on it was absolutely obsessed
with Arnold Palmer's manhood. And it's that the first time
this guy's done it on CNN. He's weirdly obsessed with
these lurid details.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Jake Tapper. Jake Tapper, Oh, he had a meltdown.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Well, here's his meltdown with Speaker Mike Johnson stories about.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Aren't Old Palmer's penis and spoke about the size of
a pro golfer's penis. Isn't talking about Arnold Palmer's penis
in front of Pennsylvania voters.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Jake, you seemed to like that line a lot.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Let me tell you that I dondt me around the country.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
You just say something.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
I don't want to be talking about that, right. Donald
Trump is out there saying it. It is what you
continue to let's talk about because you won't wear it, hold,
you won't address it.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
He is out there talking to no I'll address it.
Let meat it. Okay, don't say it again.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Okay, don't say it again, and I'll address it, says
Speaker Johnson. It wasn't limited to that exchange with the
Speaker of the House. Here's Jake Tapper again, he is
just hell bent on pursuing this to its logical end
or iological end.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
I think this has any impact, and obviously not on
his base. They love him, they think he's entertaining, they
love how he talks like a real guy, et cetera,
et cetera. Let's just take the Arnold Palmer anecdote that he.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Told yesterday about here we go.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
I'll just say, seeing Arnold Palmer and people seeing Arnold
Palmer naked in the shower and being impressed.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Now, I've never heard anything like that. I'm not offended.
I don't care, but I do wonder how many voters
does that get you?
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Of the people that are in this undecided pool.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Does it move the needle, oops Kelly at all? No,
I'm not intended.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
No.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
But the comeback I would come with is, did Kamala
move the needle at all? By screaming at her audience
about Donald Trump?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I think this shows you in each instance what you
just referenced and what Jake Taber is just losing in
mind about where both campaigns are. Donald Trump's out there,
he's slinging, he's picking and grinning, he's you know, dropping
s bombs about her you're a.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Blank vice president. He's working at McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
He's talking about Arnold Palmer and you know, impressing guys
in the locker room. He's having fun. Kamala, Harris, the
joy is gone. There is no fun. I made this
comment yesterday that others picked up on X as well,
that you watch Kamala with their words salad spinning out
of control, and then you watch the soul of Liz
Cheney evaporate into the mist. And you see the look
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on Liz Cheney's face as she realizes I'm tied to
this clown and there's nothing, there's no going back.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
People try to make the claim that.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Well, Liz Cheney is principled and she abendoned all pretensive
power in politics by adhering to the truth, and that's
why she's endorsing Kamala. Let me give you the brass
tax direct line reason as to why Liz Cheney is
panicking and endorsing Kamala Because if Trump wins, I hope
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and I believe he is going to launch an investigation
into this sham. January sixth Committee that deleted texts, that
buried evidence, that erased certain parts of the investigation that
Thomas Massey called out Benny Thompson about with regard to
the supposed bomb outside of the DNC where Kamala Harris
was situated, that a random stranger, we are told on
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the video, we are shown on the video, encounters this backpack,
alerts to DC police officers to its presence.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
They come and take it away. We don't hear about
it ever. Again, why not?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Why is that person who discovered the backpack the bomb
not a hero? He saved Kamala Harris's life, right, but
we didn't hear a thing about it. Ray Epps gets
to testify in a basement off camera the middle of
the night, and they excuse him away, even though he's
the only person, the only person, including Donald Trump on
video recorded as saying, we got to go into the
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capitol building. But no, don't look over there. Refs is fine,
there's nothing to see here. What do you mean you've
attacked every other grandma who went into the state capitol
that day and being prosecuted on charges. But ray Apps
is totally immune. Why is he immune? Oh, he might
be a government spook. He might be an agent or
an asset of the FBI, And they don't want us
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to know about it. Liz Cheney is scared to death
that if Trump wins, that will all be exposed. That's
why she's endorsing Kamala Harris. Plain and simple, end of sentence, Kelly,
do you disagree?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
I do not, And to dovetail onto your point, I
think Liz Cheney.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Is also kind of she's really really got.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Tramped arrangement syndromes. What's bad Trump derangement syndrome? Easy for
me to say, so badly right now that it has
literally fried her brain.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
She's not the only one, and it's.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Just it's amazing to me.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
But yes, to go on to your point, that was
the most miserable interview that she did. Or sit down
with Kamala and she's just looking at her and you
could tell she's going, you are an idiot.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Oh yeah, and she is.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
And we have some deep thoughts from Kamala Harris coming
up in a little bit.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Back by the way, on that, did you Chris Matthews.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Well, no, he's yeah, that's kind of okay now that
you said it.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
This is what he said.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
She is a character almost out of the movies, out
of a man. For all seasons, I've never seen a
more heroic figure than Liz Cheney. She lost her her
state probably forever, she lost her party, she lost her
leadership in the Republican House. She could have been on
her way to speaker. It was very probable. She gave
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it all the way in the interest of truth.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
That's all she stood for.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
No, it's amazing to me how few people have gotten
behind her. But now one person that's got behind her
is Kamala Harris. And those sitting together, those two women,
as you say on that stage, is remarkable because there's
such courage there from Liz Cheney. And I cannot say
any thing it would stop me from saying, she's been unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Why would Harris warmly embrace a neocon warmonger who's the
daughter of a neo kan warmonger, Kelly go Why Why
would Kamala Harris do that?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
This was a villified figure.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Dick Cheney has been compared to the Emperor from the
Star Wars franchise by the left consistently repeatedly over the
last twenty plus years.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
And just because they switch teams, they're totally fine. Now
that the good guys know, absolutely out of here with
that crap.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Even before RFK Junior endorsed Donald Trump, what did I
consistently say about him on this program, Kelly, That he
was a good person, that I like RFK Junior, That
I might not agree with him on a whole bunch
of issues, but I admire him.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yes, I think he's a man of principle, but I
said that before he endorsed Trump.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
And I think it's very interesting that his wife was
the one who kind of pushed him.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
To a little bit share leines right back to the
ballot measures, and we'll get to more of this in
the next segment as well. But to recap, we'll start
with the amendments in ordered G. This one the property
tax exemption for veterans who do not qualify for one
hundred percent permanent disability but do have individual unemployability status.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Kelly and I are both yes on that. Amendment H.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
That has to do with judicial discipline and a board
being established that would incorporate both citizens and lawyers as
well as judges instead of just judges to those discipline proceedings.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Kelly and I both yes on that, and that's Amendment H.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Amendment I, shall there be an amendment to the Constitution
creating an exception to the right to bail for cases
of murder in the first degree when proof is evident
or presumption is great.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Kelly and I both yes on that.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
This one generate a little bit of disagreement, and I
totally understand it in our listening audience. Amendment Jay, shall
there be an amendment to the Colorado Constitution removing the
ban on same sex marriage?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I'm a yes. I think Kelly's a yes.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
She's still not sure how she voted on that, because
the language is a little confusing, and that was the
point of one of our texters.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
But I'm a yes on that one. Amendment k I
think we left off here.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Shall there be an Amendment to the Colorado Constitution concerning
the modification of certain deadlines and connection with specified elections, Well,
you need to look into the devil of the details here,
because what this does is it moves up the deadline
on a shorter timetable, so the candidates have less time
to declare for a race, to enter a race, to
gather signatures for a race. And I don't see how
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the public is best served by that. I really don't,
So I voted no against that Kelly, what say you?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
I voted no as well.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Okay, I think that's a pretty slam dunk one, but
that's just me. Amendment seventy nine, this is the one
that Dan is very very strongly fervent about. We've had
interviews along these lines about it. Shall there be a
change to the Colorado Constitution recognizing the right to abortion, and,
in connection therewith prohibiting the state and local governments from denying, impeding,
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or discriminating against the exercise of that right, allowing abortion
to be a covered service under health insurance plans for
Colorado state and local government employees and for enrollees in
state and local government insurance programs. Basically, taxpayer funded abortion
on demand at any point of the pregnancy, for any
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reason or no reason at all, throughout all nine months.
If you can find a doctor death and you're having
a bad day and you want to kill the thing
inside of you, it will be enshrined in Colorado law
by Amendment seventy nine.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Kelly, I can only imagine how you voted on this one.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
I was a big no.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
That's a very hard no, and that's coming from somebody
that Kelly knows as much as can be on this issue.
I think I am a moderate. I think I've always
been a moderate. I would not vote to outlaw abortion outright.
I've always been a proponent of the option of life,
of giving them in true choice in the matter whether
they keep the baby, they give it up for adoption,
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or they have an abortion, that they feel empowered and
supported enough, no matter how you define that, whether it's
nonprofits or otherwise, that they have an option, they have
a choice, and that they can prefer to choose to
keep the baby or carry it to term and give
it up for adoption rather than just killing it.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I don't like abortion.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I want there to be as few as possible, and
if there are abortions as early as possible, I support IVF.
I do support the morning after pill if it's used
appropriately and with the contented advice of a doctor. It's
like I said, the later you wait to have an abortion,
the more grisly and ghoulish.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
And awful and evil it is.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
In my view, there are varying degrees of this, and
the Colorado law right now, even if you compare it
to the laws in New York State or California, is
radically extreme to the left. There are no exceptions, no
limitations on abortion in this state of Colorado. To the
point that the doctor up in Boulder, what is he?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Doctor Hearn?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Is that his name?
Speaker 4 (16:51):
I think?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Okay, well look that up if you can.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
But anyway, this is a guy that prides himself on
conducting late term abortions, ninth month abortions.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Again with no qualifying circumstances.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Life of the mother not in jeopardy, the baby's not
going to be stillborn or brain dead, no extreme circumstances.
He has made mention in the fact that some of
the ninth month abortions he has conducted are elective, are
sheerly elective, just because the woman wanted to. And my
question to that would be, why did you wait until
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the ninth month or why did you change your mind?
And by the time you get there, I'm sorry, that's murder.
That's it. It's not even a question. But the Democrats
to the left, they can't see that ground. If they
give up the ground of the ninth month for any
reason at all, then they admit that it is human life,
and then they have to retrace their steps and go
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to midterm abortions of why are those okay? With sonograms
and what we see, the fingers and the toes, the heartbeat,
these babies moving.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
In the womb.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I don't know how anybody of sound mind can sit
there and watch one happen on a like Abby Johnson
has proposed, and then go ahead and go through with it,
knowing what you are doing if you have a conscience
and a soul. So we end on that note on
Amendment seventy nine, and just like Dan and just Lake Kelly,
I'm a hard no on that one. More to come
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on these amendments and proposals when we come back.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Good morning, senator.
Speaker 8 (18:26):
Let's start really big picture.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
When you were out there on the campaign trail and
you inevitably meet one of these voters who says, I
think I'm voting for Donald Trump because he's just better
for the economy, how do you persuade them?
Speaker 8 (18:38):
Look, I start out with what happened to our rights
across this country. Donald Trump goes out and brags that
he put in place a Supreme Court that took away
a constitutional right from half the population.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
These people are broken. I'm gonna go get me a beer.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Was a more effective line than what you just heard
from Elizabeth Warren, I call her Pocahontas, okay, but their
brains are broken and Trump broke them.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
She was specifically asked.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
If a voter is leaning toward Trump because they prefer
him on the economy, what would you tell them. I
would tell them that they can't abort babies anymore. Like,
what the hell does that have to do with it?
Here's another thing. As much as I just passionately spoke
about abortion and I want some guardrails, Okay, we'll leave
it there, it's not even a top ten issue for me,
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and I have to imagine for many of you out
there it's the same, and not just the.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
White dudes that maybe or may not be for Harris.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
And if you're a white dude for Harris who loves abortion,
that's a little creepy and weird, because why are you
so raw raw about abortion? Because you want the women
to have them? Anyway, this is an issue. I understand
that it's very important to a lot of women. They
view it as a fundamental right that they've had that
was taken away for whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
But there are options between.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Point A and point Z before you have to even
consider getting an abortion. And further to that, point, abortion
is only an issue for women roughly the age range
of fifteen to forty five. If you can have kids,
if you're able to have kids, and that's a big
part of your life and your child bearing years or
lack thereof, and you want to prevent it well birth
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control pills last time I checked, highly.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Effective, very safe, very cheap. Kelly, am I wrong?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
You are not?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Okay, you're a woman. I want to make sure that
we include your viewpoint, since you know I'm a guy.
I'm a man's planning this.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Yeah, but see that really upsets me because it takes
two to tango and a lot of and a lot
of these times women are basically not even considering the
opinion of the man that actually put the sperm inside
of them.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Wow, that's graphic.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
But here, real quick, I understand, even if it's an
important issue for a person, a center left Democrat, woman, suburban, whatnot,
there are so many women, Kelly, this is the only
issue they vote on.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Please explain that to me. That seems kind of sick.
It seems kind of sick to me that that's the
only issue you care about.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Well, not me, company excluded, right exactly, But you're right
they are single issue voters, and they basically and there
are some maniacal women out there.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Hey, they screen their abortions, they give their abortions names. Right,
that's sick. I'm sorry, that's that's.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Twisting themselves on with the pregnancy stick going. I just
made an appointment tomorrow for the clinic. I'm getting this
thing aborted.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I have I honestly have pity for such people that
think that low of human life because of those cases.
I think they think that low of themselves. Well, they
have a lot of self loathing.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
You and I have had this discussion many times because
as a man, you've never been pregnant.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Nor will I be, nor can.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
That he You have the magic idea in your head
of like this fifteen week.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I don't have any idea. You keep putting that label
on me. I don't. I don't have that idea.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Because we've discussed that before, and I can assure you
I know that at fifteen.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Weeks, butterflies, I've heard you.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
You can feeling okay.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
All right, let's keep going with the amendments picking up
or we're left off. If you want to check these out,
I'm going to post them online and I'll show you
the link. Be sure to follow me on X if
you're not already at Ryan Schuling s C H U, I,
L I N G. And I might have room for
a few more on board with the Facebook too, if
you'd like to do that. Those are the only social
media platforms I'm really active on Amendment eighty for the Constitution.
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This requires a fifty five percent majority, as any amendment
to the Constitution does. Here, in Colorado, shall there be
an Amendment to the Colorado Constitution establishing the right to
school choice for children in kindergarten through twelfth grade, and,
in connection therew declaring that school choice includesighborhood charter and
private schools, homeschooling, open enrollment options, and future innovations in education.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Kelly, Yes or no?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
That was a big yes.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I'm a big yes.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
That's a Christy Burton Brown initiative through Advanced Colorado. And
by the way, I support Christy wholeheartedly for her spot
on the state's Board of Education. But Amendent eighty is
a good measure and I support it one dred percent.
The only people opposing it teachers, unions and the big
money that comes with it. So if you want to
send a one digit message to Randy Weingarten.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Vote yes on Amendment eighty Proposition JJ without raising taxes.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
That's always a big caveat bugaboo, Like, well, we're not
going to raise taxes, but so I'm almost predisposed to
vote no on any measure that begins with the language
without raising taxes.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
But really we will be somehow.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Maybe the state keep and spend all right there, No,
no give it back.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
I don't care who it is, give it back. We'll continue.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
May the state keep and spend all sports betting tax
revenue above voter approved limits to fund water conservation and
protection projects instead of refunding revenue to casinos. Nope, hard no,
give it back to the casinos. And you know why,
Kelly on have you expand on this? There is no
guarantee that if this is implemented that said funds held
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by the state government and our democratic way left radical
commie legislature, that they will actually spend it on water
conservation and protection projects.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Kelis.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
I was very hard no on this one as well,
and I agree with you. I don't trust our state
government at all. No, And I also have the caveat
about the wording where it says without raising taxes, and
then the other trigger word in there.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Was spend YEP one hundred percent Agreement Proposition KK, shall
state taxes be increased by thirty nine million bones that's
my word annually to fund mental health services, including for
military veterans and at risk youth, school safety, and gun
violence prevention and support services for victims of domestic violence
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and other violent crimes.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
So far, so good, right, wait till you hear the rest.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
By authorizing a tax on gun dealers, gun manufacturers, and
ammunition vendors at the rate of six point five percent
of the net taxable sales from the retail sale of
any gun, gun precursor part, or ammunition, with the state
keeping and spending there it is again all of the
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new tax revenue as a voter approved revenue change.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
How about hell no.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Kelly, I was also a hello.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
You're not taxing my guns and am O yep, get out.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
GGFO funding that little trigger word.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Oh that's awful. That's an awful.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Well, that might be as bad as Amendment seventy nine
to me, just because it's infringing upon an actual constitutional
right that I have guaranteed to me federally. You're not
gonna infringe upon that by putting that's a big tax too,
six point five percent on all ammunition any gun.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
No, yes, you can only hope the left leaning libertarians
out there see that for what it is.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Oh, I hope.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
So because we need them, We need them in this state.
One more before we go to break, because I want
to evenly spread this out. Proposition one twenty seven. Shall
there be a change to the Colorado Revised Statute concerning
a prohibition on the hunting of mountain lions, links and bobcats,
in other words, big cats. I saw a good ad
about this, by the way, about a cougar at the
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door of a small child. It was very effective, I
thought anyway, And in connection therewith prohibiting the intentional killing,
wounding pursuing what.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
If I want to pursue, I'm gonna hurt. I'm just
gonna pursue. I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
It's against this law if it is inacted and trapping
or discharging or releasing of a deadly weapon at a
mountain lion, links or bobcat. Creating eight exceptions to this prohibition,
including for the protection of human life, property and livestock.
Establishing a violation of this prohibition is a Class one
misdemeanor and increasing fines and limiting wildlife license and privileges
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for persons convicted of this crime. It's very prohibitive and invasive,
and I think our Colorado Parks and Wildlife can handle this.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
They have been handling it.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
This would go the same route as the reintroduction of wolves.
It would threaten livestock. It limits what a rancher can
do in response to a big cat threatening livestock. You're
not even allowed to use life ending measures for the cats.
In those cases. You have to somehow live, trap it,
or I don't even know what, but just on for
the sake of the ranchers out there. Kelly Hard no
on Prop one twenty seven, prohibiting the hunting of big cats.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Do you agree?
Speaker 4 (27:52):
I also voted no on this, k all right, for
the same reason.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
We're gonna pause, take a break, come back, and I
think we can get through the rest of them.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
We still have Props.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
One twenty eight, one twenty nine, one thirty, and one
thirty one to go to make sure we get through
them all. So we'll take a time out here. On
Ryan Schuling Live, rounding things out on this Tuesday edition
of Ryan Schuling Live, exactly two weeks out from election day,
fourteen days, I'll be co anchoring coverage over on KOA.
To my knowledge, might change, I don't know, with Gina
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Gondek over there on that night. Floutd's thruly also in studio,
a highly respected political consultant. And the remaining four propositions
on the ballot. I'm going to go lightning round on
these next three. I'll get input from Kelly two, but
I'm a pretty easy yes on each of these. Prop
One twenty eight, Shall there be a change to the
Colorado Revised Statues concerning parole eligibility for an offender convicted
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of certain crimes and a connection therewith requiring an offender
who is convicted of second degree murder, first degree assault,
Class two felony, kidnapping, sexual assault, first degree arson, first
degree burglary, or aggravated robbery committed on or after one
twenty twenty five to serve eighty five percent of the
sentence imposed before being eligible for parole, and requiring an
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offender convicted of any such crime convicted on or after
jan one, twenty five who was previously convicted of any
two crimes of violence, not just those crimes enumerated in
this measure, to serve the full sentence imposed before beginning
to serve parole. Kelly, any disagreement, Nope, Yes, and that's
a George Brockler endorsed measure as well. Prop One twenty nine.
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Shall there be a change to the Colorado Revised Statues
creating a new Veterinary Professional Associate profession any connection therewith
establishing qualifications including a master's degree in veterinary clinical care
or the equivalent as determined by the State Board of
Veterinary Medicine, to be a veterinary Professional Associate, requiring registration
with the state Board, allowing a registered veterinary Professional Associate
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to practice veterinary medicine on the supervision of a licensed veterinarian,
and making a misdemeanor to practice as a veterinary professional
associate without an act of registration. In short, what this
does it allows perhaps slightly less qualified people in the
veterinary field to serve outlying areas that are more rural,
and it's harder for.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Regular vets to get to. Is my understanding, Kelly, What
say you, I'm a.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Yes on that, pad, I am a yes on that too,
And for all the things you just listed.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Okay, ye, more of the merrier, and they've got to
have supervision and they've got to be qualified.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
It just kind of augments that process.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Prop One thirty Shall there be a change to the
Colorader Revised Statues concerning State funding for Peace Officer Training
and Support and in connection therewith directing the Legislature to
appropriate three hundred and fifty million dollars to the Peace
Officer Training and Support Fund for municipal and county law
enforcement agencies to hire and retain peace officers, allowing the
fund to be used for pay bonuses, initial and continuing
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education and training, and a death benefit for a peace officer, police,
fire and first responder killed in the line of duty,
and requiring the funding to supplement existing appropriations. I'm a yes,
Kelly Big Yes, yep. That's a George Brockler Roof measure
as well. This is the one that's getting some consternation
from me. Prop One thirty one, Shall there be a
change to the Colorado Revised Statues creating new election processes
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over certain federal and state offices and in connection therewith
creating a new all candidate primary election for US Senate,
US House, governor, Attorney General, Secretary of State, treasurer, Cboard
of Regents, State Board of Education, and the Colorado State Legislature,
allowing voters to vote for any one candidate per office,
regardless of the voters or candidates political party affiliation, providing
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that the four candidates for each office who receive the
most votes advanced to the general election, and in the
general election, allowing voters to rank candidates for each office
on their ballot, adopting a process for how the ranked
votes are tallied, and determining the winner to be the
candidate with the highest number of votes in the final tally. Kelly,
what say you on Prop? One thirty one ranked choice voting?
No hard note from me. I know Mandy Connell and
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Rosskominski support it, but every Republican I know who wants
Republicans to win is against this measure. That includes Christy
Burton Brown, George Brockler, Dan Kaplis. I believe he can
clarify his own position and me so I can see
why somebody who's not a Republican might want to open
this process where I wide up. But my main point
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is this, the Colorado Republican Party is in bad shape.
It's under bad leadership. But the answer to that is
not making it worse. It can always be worse, and
I don't want to go from bad to worse. As
a Republican. I would rather close the primaries. I don't
want unaffiliated voters meddling in my primaries. Do you want
Nicky Haley voters in quotes kind of influencing where an
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election goes for the Republican primary when it comes to
Donald Trump in that instance, I thought that was an
impediment that was unnecessary, and a lot of those voters
were not Republicans, and I don't want them having a
say in who my candidate as a Republican is. If
we pick a bad candidate as Republicans as a party,
as leadership, that's on us and we're the dummies, and
we need to change our direction and trajectory.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
And I think that does need to happen.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
But I would rather there be new leadership in the
Republican Party. We get our blank together, if you know
what I mean, and we come up with better solutions
with better candidates, and we nominate those individuals on our own.
I don't want Democrats or independents coming in and mucking
up the works and selecting candidates for US and having
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an Alaska type situation where we saw Mary Peltola, a
Democrat who never should have won that race for US House.
She did because the vote was split between Sarah Palin
and another Republican candidate. Then the party can't consolidate around
one candidate with funding and staffing and support and advertising
and everything it takes to win a political campaign. I
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could not be a more firm no against rank choice
voting Prop one p thirty one than I am right now.
Everywhere it's been tried California, Maine, Alaska, Democrats have thrive,
Republicans have suffered. And on the Alaska ballot this time around,
they are voting whether or not to repeal the choice
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voting that they voted in. That should tell you all
you need to know. No on Prop one thirty one
ranked choice voting
The election day is just over two weeks away, and
the fight for every single last undecided vote in battleground
states is intensifying. Vice President Kamala Harris's targeting disaffected Republican
voters by hitting the trail with Liz Cheney in the
crucial blue Wall states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Cheney
was a powerful Republican congressman, and today she called Harris
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a responsible adult. As for former President Donald Trump, he
was back in North Carolina again pushing false claims about
FEMA and immigrants, as after he spent the weekend slinging
a crude insult at Harris, engaging in lewd locker room
talk about the late golfing legend Arnold Palmer, and staging
a campaign stunt at a Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
McDonald's real mystery here back on Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
So we go from the horror genre to the mystery genre.
Who is Nora O'Donnell voting for?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And moreover, who does CBS News want to win?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Kelly go I.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Think we know.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
This could not have been more one side, excidedly written. Yes,
if you tried to make it that way in a
comedic way, like I might do on this show, and
I'm a clear partisan, and I come right out and
say it. They try to pretend to be neutral in
this setting. No O'Donnell was one of the co moderators
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of a presidential debate, a vice presidential debate with JD.
Vance and Tim Walls, and you just heard it there.
If I was the anchor and that script came before
me and I didn't write, I mean, what wait a minute,
like this is completely biased one side, one direction. We
can't report like this. They have no shame anymore, Kelly.
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If they ever did, and they're not trying to hide.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
It, well, definitely not CBS. I mean they went ahead
and edited that sixty minutes interview with Kamala So at
this point they're all just they're all coming out in
saying exactly what they feel. And the unfortunate part about
that is that they're trying to make themselves up to
not be opinion hosts when they are.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
They're not really reporting the news.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
All I'm saying is just come out and tell us,
be honest with where you stand. I am. It feels great,
you know, and I'm going to tell you if I
find a problem with something President Trump says or does.
And I'm going to tell you if the Democrats make
a good move and it was wise for them to
do something. Now you're going to find that I have
an opinion and I come from a certain point of view,
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but it's honestly my point of view that i'm telling
You're free to disagree. That's fine, but I'm not presenting
it to you as if it were fact and that
I had no agency in it or decision making ability
to buy for Kate between the two and decide whether
or not one is fact one is fiction. I'm just
above the fray and I'm just reporting the news as is.
I'm not doing that here obviously as an opinion host,
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but I'm going to be upfront with you about my
honest breakdown of something. Nobody's gonna pay me to say something,
nobody's going to pay me not to say something.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
iHeart Dave Tepper. My bosses here have never come in here.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And said, well, we need you to pump this and
pump the brakes on this. Never I'd be totally forthright
if I told you, Look, the powers that be are
telling me I can't say this or that hasn't happened.
I think Kelly would corroborate that, and she would know
because I would have told her about it. On this
notion about I don't have the clip in front of me,
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but Kelly, as best as you could summarize it, apparently,
Donald Trump in Latrobe, Pennsylvania talked about its famous native
Arnold Palmer and his manhood.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Can you give me the context of that lie? Yeah? Sure.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
So basically he was making a joke that he would
go into the locker room with the pros and that
the pros would come out and be and basically made
some sort of a reference to that's a manly man.
He's got a lot of man in him, you know.
And I know because I like the women, and you know,
but I got to give I got to give respect,
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what respect to do?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You know?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Something like that.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
So was this in kind of a joking fashion.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Yes, yes, absolutely, And everybody you know in the mainstream
media took it way too seriously.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
It was said in jest.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
It He wasn't making fun of Arnold Palmer or anything
like that. He was just simply kind of saying, Arnold Palmer,
you know, might have a good.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Okay, Well, there are there are many historical figures that
there are kind of these tall tales about or they're
accurate and they're based in fact, in fact. In a
recent film Saturday Night that I saw, they made mention
the fact J. K. Simmons portrays Milton Burrell and he
was legendary in.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
The manhood department.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
He just that's something that followed him throughout his entire
career in life. Another person along these lines was Lyndon
Baines Johnson LBJ was notorious for kind of flaunting this
and intimidating people and using it as kind of a cudgel.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Literally, wouldn't he go skinny dipping?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
He'd do it intentionally right in front of the Secret Service, Yeah,
right right in the Yeah. And you know he would
a little graphic here for the kiddos, but he would,
you know, use the go number two in the bathroom
door wide open.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Secret Service didn't care. He's one of these guys.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
He's gonna do whatever the blank he wants and you're
just gonna have to deal with it. And he would
do it for shock value, and I think it was
again designed with intent and intimidation. So LBJ, Milton Berle,
and apparently Arnold Palmer.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
We learned this.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Well, somebody that picked up on it was absolutely obsessed
with Arnold Palmer's manhood. And it's that the first time
this guy's done it on CNN. He's weirdly obsessed with
these lurid details.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Jake Tapper. Jake Tapper, Oh, he had a meltdown.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Well, here's his meltdown with Speaker Mike Johnson stories about.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Aren't Old Palmer's penis and spoke about the size of
a pro golfer's penis. Isn't talking about Arnold Palmer's penis
in front of Pennsylvania voters.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Jake, you seemed to like that line a lot.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Let me tell you that I dondt me around the country.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
You just say something.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
I don't want to be talking about that, right. Donald
Trump is out there saying it. It is what you
continue to let's talk about because you won't wear it, hold,
you won't address it.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
He is out there talking to no I'll address it.
Let meat it. Okay, don't say it again.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Okay, don't say it again, and I'll address it, says
Speaker Johnson. It wasn't limited to that exchange with the
Speaker of the House. Here's Jake Tapper again, he is
just hell bent on pursuing this to its logical end
or iological end.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
I think this has any impact, and obviously not on
his base. They love him, they think he's entertaining, they
love how he talks like a real guy, et cetera,
et cetera. Let's just take the Arnold Palmer anecdote that he.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Told yesterday about here we go.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
I'll just say, seeing Arnold Palmer and people seeing Arnold
Palmer naked in the shower and being impressed.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Now, I've never heard anything like that. I'm not offended.
I don't care, but I do wonder how many voters
does that get you?
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Of the people that are in this undecided pool.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Does it move the needle, oops Kelly at all? No,
I'm not intended.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
No.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
But the comeback I would come with is, did Kamala
move the needle at all? By screaming at her audience
about Donald Trump?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I think this shows you in each instance what you
just referenced and what Jake Taber is just losing in
mind about where both campaigns are. Donald Trump's out there,
he's slinging, he's picking and grinning, he's you know, dropping
s bombs about her you're a.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Blank vice president. He's working at McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
He's talking about Arnold Palmer and you know, impressing guys
in the locker room. He's having fun. Kamala, Harris, the
joy is gone. There is no fun. I made this
comment yesterday that others picked up on X as well,
that you watch Kamala with their words salad spinning out
of control, and then you watch the soul of Liz
Cheney evaporate into the mist. And you see the look
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on Liz Cheney's face as she realizes I'm tied to
this clown and there's nothing, there's no going back.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
People try to make the claim that.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Well, Liz Cheney is principled and she abendoned all pretensive
power in politics by adhering to the truth, and that's
why she's endorsing Kamala. Let me give you the brass
tax direct line reason as to why Liz Cheney is
panicking and endorsing Kamala Because if Trump wins, I hope
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and I believe he is going to launch an investigation
into this sham. January sixth Committee that deleted texts, that
buried evidence, that erased certain parts of the investigation that
Thomas Massey called out Benny Thompson about with regard to
the supposed bomb outside of the DNC where Kamala Harris
was situated, that a random stranger, we are told on
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the video, we are shown on the video, encounters this backpack,
alerts to DC police officers to its presence.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
They come and take it away. We don't hear about
it ever. Again, why not?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Why is that person who discovered the backpack the bomb
not a hero? He saved Kamala Harris's life, right, but
we didn't hear a thing about it. Ray Epps gets
to testify in a basement off camera the middle of
the night, and they excuse him away, even though he's
the only person, the only person, including Donald Trump on
video recorded as saying, we got to go into the
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capitol building. But no, don't look over there. Refs is fine,
there's nothing to see here. What do you mean you've
attacked every other grandma who went into the state capitol
that day and being prosecuted on charges. But ray Apps
is totally immune. Why is he immune? Oh, he might
be a government spook. He might be an agent or
an asset of the FBI, And they don't want us
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to know about it. Liz Cheney is scared to death
that if Trump wins, that will all be exposed. That's
why she's endorsing Kamala Harris. Plain and simple, end of sentence, Kelly,
do you disagree?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
I do not, And to dovetail onto your point, I
think Liz Cheney.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Is also kind of she's really really got.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Tramped arrangement syndromes. What's bad Trump derangement syndrome? Easy for
me to say, so badly right now that it has
literally fried her brain.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
She's not the only one, and it's.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Just it's amazing to me.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
But yes, to go on to your point, that was
the most miserable interview that she did. Or sit down
with Kamala and she's just looking at her and you
could tell she's going, you are an idiot.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Oh yeah, and she is.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
And we have some deep thoughts from Kamala Harris coming
up in a little bit.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Back by the way, on that, did you Chris Matthews.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Well, no, he's yeah, that's kind of okay now that
you said it.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
This is what he said.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
She is a character almost out of the movies, out
of a man. For all seasons, I've never seen a
more heroic figure than Liz Cheney. She lost her her
state probably forever, she lost her party, she lost her
leadership in the Republican House. She could have been on
her way to speaker. It was very probable. She gave
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it all the way in the interest of truth.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
That's all she stood for.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
No, it's amazing to me how few people have gotten
behind her. But now one person that's got behind her
is Kamala Harris. And those sitting together, those two women,
as you say on that stage, is remarkable because there's
such courage there from Liz Cheney. And I cannot say
any thing it would stop me from saying, she's been unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Why would Harris warmly embrace a neocon warmonger who's the
daughter of a neo kan warmonger, Kelly go Why Why
would Kamala Harris do that?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
This was a villified figure.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Dick Cheney has been compared to the Emperor from the
Star Wars franchise by the left consistently repeatedly over the
last twenty plus years.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
And just because they switch teams, they're totally fine. Now
that the good guys know, absolutely out of here with
that crap.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Even before RFK Junior endorsed Donald Trump, what did I
consistently say about him on this program, Kelly, That he
was a good person, that I like RFK Junior, That
I might not agree with him on a whole bunch
of issues, but I admire him.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yes, I think he's a man of principle, but I
said that before he endorsed Trump.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
And I think it's very interesting that his wife was
the one who kind of pushed him.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
To a little bit share leines right back to the
ballot measures, and we'll get to more of this in
the next segment as well. But to recap, we'll start
with the amendments in ordered G. This one the property
tax exemption for veterans who do not qualify for one
hundred percent permanent disability but do have individual unemployability status.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Kelly and I are both yes on that. Amendment H.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
That has to do with judicial discipline and a board
being established that would incorporate both citizens and lawyers as
well as judges instead of just judges to those discipline proceedings.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Kelly and I both yes on that, and that's Amendment H.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Amendment I, shall there be an amendment to the Constitution
creating an exception to the right to bail for cases
of murder in the first degree when proof is evident
or presumption is great.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Kelly and I both yes on that.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
This one generate a little bit of disagreement, and I
totally understand it in our listening audience. Amendment Jay, shall
there be an amendment to the Colorado Constitution removing the
ban on same sex marriage?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I'm a yes. I think Kelly's a yes.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
She's still not sure how she voted on that, because
the language is a little confusing, and that was the
point of one of our texters.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
But I'm a yes on that one. Amendment k I
think we left off here.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Shall there be an Amendment to the Colorado Constitution concerning
the modification of certain deadlines and connection with specified elections, Well,
you need to look into the devil of the details here,
because what this does is it moves up the deadline
on a shorter timetable, so the candidates have less time
to declare for a race, to enter a race, to
gather signatures for a race. And I don't see how
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the public is best served by that. I really don't,
So I voted no against that Kelly, what say you?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
I voted no as well.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Okay, I think that's a pretty slam dunk one, but
that's just me. Amendment seventy nine, this is the one
that Dan is very very strongly fervent about. We've had
interviews along these lines about it. Shall there be a
change to the Colorado Constitution recognizing the right to abortion, and,
in connection therewith prohibiting the state and local governments from denying, impeding,
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or discriminating against the exercise of that right, allowing abortion
to be a covered service under health insurance plans for
Colorado state and local government employees and for enrollees in
state and local government insurance programs. Basically, taxpayer funded abortion
on demand at any point of the pregnancy, for any
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reason or no reason at all, throughout all nine months.
If you can find a doctor death and you're having
a bad day and you want to kill the thing
inside of you, it will be enshrined in Colorado law
by Amendment seventy nine.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Kelly, I can only imagine how you voted on this one.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
I was a big no.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
That's a very hard no, and that's coming from somebody
that Kelly knows as much as can be on this issue.
I think I am a moderate. I think I've always
been a moderate. I would not vote to outlaw abortion outright.
I've always been a proponent of the option of life,
of giving them in true choice in the matter whether
they keep the baby, they give it up for adoption,
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or they have an abortion, that they feel empowered and
supported enough, no matter how you define that, whether it's
nonprofits or otherwise, that they have an option, they have
a choice, and that they can prefer to choose to
keep the baby or carry it to term and give
it up for adoption rather than just killing it.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I don't like abortion.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I want there to be as few as possible, and
if there are abortions as early as possible, I support IVF.
I do support the morning after pill if it's used
appropriately and with the contented advice of a doctor. It's
like I said, the later you wait to have an abortion,
the more grisly and ghoulish.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
And awful and evil it is.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
In my view, there are varying degrees of this, and
the Colorado law right now, even if you compare it
to the laws in New York State or California, is
radically extreme to the left. There are no exceptions, no
limitations on abortion in this state of Colorado. To the
point that the doctor up in Boulder, what is he?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Doctor Hearn?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Is that his name?
Speaker 4 (16:51):
I think?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Okay, well look that up if you can.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
But anyway, this is a guy that prides himself on
conducting late term abortions, ninth month abortions.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Again with no qualifying circumstances.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Life of the mother not in jeopardy, the baby's not
going to be stillborn or brain dead, no extreme circumstances.
He has made mention in the fact that some of
the ninth month abortions he has conducted are elective, are
sheerly elective, just because the woman wanted to. And my
question to that would be, why did you wait until
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the ninth month or why did you change your mind?
And by the time you get there, I'm sorry, that's murder.
That's it. It's not even a question. But the Democrats
to the left, they can't see that ground. If they
give up the ground of the ninth month for any
reason at all, then they admit that it is human life,
and then they have to retrace their steps and go
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to midterm abortions of why are those okay? With sonograms
and what we see, the fingers and the toes, the heartbeat,
these babies moving.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
In the womb.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I don't know how anybody of sound mind can sit
there and watch one happen on a like Abby Johnson
has proposed, and then go ahead and go through with it,
knowing what you are doing if you have a conscience
and a soul. So we end on that note on
Amendment seventy nine, and just like Dan and just Lake Kelly,
I'm a hard no on that one. More to come
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on these amendments and proposals when we come back.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Good morning, senator.
Speaker 8 (18:26):
Let's start really big picture.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
When you were out there on the campaign trail and
you inevitably meet one of these voters who says, I
think I'm voting for Donald Trump because he's just better
for the economy, how do you persuade them?
Speaker 8 (18:38):
Look, I start out with what happened to our rights
across this country. Donald Trump goes out and brags that
he put in place a Supreme Court that took away
a constitutional right from half the population.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
These people are broken. I'm gonna go get me a beer.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Was a more effective line than what you just heard
from Elizabeth Warren, I call her Pocahontas, okay, but their
brains are broken and Trump broke them.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
She was specifically asked.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
If a voter is leaning toward Trump because they prefer
him on the economy, what would you tell them. I
would tell them that they can't abort babies anymore. Like,
what the hell does that have to do with it?
Here's another thing. As much as I just passionately spoke
about abortion and I want some guardrails, Okay, we'll leave
it there, it's not even a top ten issue for me,
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and I have to imagine for many of you out
there it's the same, and not just the.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
White dudes that maybe or may not be for Harris.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
And if you're a white dude for Harris who loves abortion,
that's a little creepy and weird, because why are you
so raw raw about abortion? Because you want the women
to have them? Anyway, this is an issue. I understand
that it's very important to a lot of women. They
view it as a fundamental right that they've had that
was taken away for whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
But there are options between.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Point A and point Z before you have to even
consider getting an abortion. And further to that, point, abortion
is only an issue for women roughly the age range
of fifteen to forty five. If you can have kids,
if you're able to have kids, and that's a big
part of your life and your child bearing years or
lack thereof, and you want to prevent it well birth
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control pills last time I checked, highly.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Effective, very safe, very cheap. Kelly, am I wrong?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
You are not?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Okay, you're a woman. I want to make sure that
we include your viewpoint, since you know I'm a guy.
I'm a man's planning this.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Yeah, but see that really upsets me because it takes
two to tango and a lot of and a lot
of these times women are basically not even considering the
opinion of the man that actually put the sperm inside
of them.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Wow, that's graphic.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
But here, real quick, I understand, even if it's an
important issue for a person, a center left Democrat, woman, suburban, whatnot,
there are so many women, Kelly, this is the only
issue they vote on.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Please explain that to me. That seems kind of sick.
It seems kind of sick to me that that's the
only issue you care about.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Well, not me, company excluded, right exactly, But you're right
they are single issue voters, and they basically and there
are some maniacal women out there.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Hey, they screen their abortions, they give their abortions names. Right,
that's sick. I'm sorry, that's that's.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Twisting themselves on with the pregnancy stick going. I just
made an appointment tomorrow for the clinic. I'm getting this
thing aborted.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I have I honestly have pity for such people that
think that low of human life because of those cases.
I think they think that low of themselves. Well, they
have a lot of self loathing.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
You and I have had this discussion many times because
as a man, you've never been pregnant.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Nor will I be, nor can.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
That he You have the magic idea in your head
of like this fifteen week.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I don't have any idea. You keep putting that label
on me. I don't. I don't have that idea.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Because we've discussed that before, and I can assure you
I know that at fifteen.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Weeks, butterflies, I've heard you.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
You can feeling okay.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
All right, let's keep going with the amendments picking up
or we're left off. If you want to check these out,
I'm going to post them online and I'll show you
the link. Be sure to follow me on X if
you're not already at Ryan Schuling s C H U, I,
L I N G. And I might have room for
a few more on board with the Facebook too, if
you'd like to do that. Those are the only social
media platforms I'm really active on Amendment eighty for the Constitution.
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This requires a fifty five percent majority, as any amendment
to the Constitution does. Here, in Colorado, shall there be
an Amendment to the Colorado Constitution establishing the right to
school choice for children in kindergarten through twelfth grade, and,
in connection therew declaring that school choice includesighborhood charter and
private schools, homeschooling, open enrollment options, and future innovations in education.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Kelly, Yes or no?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
That was a big yes.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I'm a big yes.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
That's a Christy Burton Brown initiative through Advanced Colorado. And
by the way, I support Christy wholeheartedly for her spot
on the state's Board of Education. But Amendent eighty is
a good measure and I support it one dred percent.
The only people opposing it teachers, unions and the big
money that comes with it. So if you want to
send a one digit message to Randy Weingarten.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Vote yes on Amendment eighty Proposition JJ without raising taxes.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
That's always a big caveat bugaboo, Like, well, we're not
going to raise taxes, but so I'm almost predisposed to
vote no on any measure that begins with the language
without raising taxes.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
But really we will be somehow.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Maybe the state keep and spend all right there, No,
no give it back.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
I don't care who it is, give it back. We'll continue.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
May the state keep and spend all sports betting tax
revenue above voter approved limits to fund water conservation and
protection projects instead of refunding revenue to casinos. Nope, hard no,
give it back to the casinos. And you know why,
Kelly on have you expand on this? There is no
guarantee that if this is implemented that said funds held
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by the state government and our democratic way left radical
commie legislature, that they will actually spend it on water
conservation and protection projects.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Kelis.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
I was very hard no on this one as well,
and I agree with you. I don't trust our state
government at all. No, And I also have the caveat
about the wording where it says without raising taxes, and
then the other trigger word in there.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Was spend YEP one hundred percent Agreement Proposition KK, shall
state taxes be increased by thirty nine million bones that's
my word annually to fund mental health services, including for
military veterans and at risk youth, school safety, and gun
violence prevention and support services for victims of domestic violence
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and other violent crimes.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
So far, so good, right, wait till you hear the rest.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
By authorizing a tax on gun dealers, gun manufacturers, and
ammunition vendors at the rate of six point five percent
of the net taxable sales from the retail sale of
any gun, gun precursor part, or ammunition, with the state
keeping and spending there it is again all of the
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new tax revenue as a voter approved revenue change.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
How about hell no.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Kelly, I was also a hello.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
You're not taxing my guns and am O yep, get out.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
GGFO funding that little trigger word.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Oh that's awful. That's an awful.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Well, that might be as bad as Amendment seventy nine
to me, just because it's infringing upon an actual constitutional
right that I have guaranteed to me federally. You're not
gonna infringe upon that by putting that's a big tax too,
six point five percent on all ammunition any gun.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
No, yes, you can only hope the left leaning libertarians
out there see that for what it is.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Oh, I hope.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
So because we need them, We need them in this state.
One more before we go to break, because I want
to evenly spread this out. Proposition one twenty seven. Shall
there be a change to the Colorado Revised Statute concerning
a prohibition on the hunting of mountain lions, links and bobcats,
in other words, big cats. I saw a good ad
about this, by the way, about a cougar at the
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door of a small child. It was very effective, I
thought anyway, And in connection therewith prohibiting the intentional killing,
wounding pursuing what.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
If I want to pursue, I'm gonna hurt. I'm just
gonna pursue. I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
It's against this law if it is inacted and trapping
or discharging or releasing of a deadly weapon at a
mountain lion, links or bobcat. Creating eight exceptions to this prohibition,
including for the protection of human life, property and livestock.
Establishing a violation of this prohibition is a Class one
misdemeanor and increasing fines and limiting wildlife license and privileges
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for persons convicted of this crime. It's very prohibitive and invasive,
and I think our Colorado Parks and Wildlife can handle this.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
They have been handling it.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
This would go the same route as the reintroduction of wolves.
It would threaten livestock. It limits what a rancher can
do in response to a big cat threatening livestock. You're
not even allowed to use life ending measures for the cats.
In those cases. You have to somehow live, trap it,
or I don't even know what, but just on for
the sake of the ranchers out there. Kelly Hard no
on Prop one twenty seven, prohibiting the hunting of big cats.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Do you agree?
Speaker 4 (27:52):
I also voted no on this, k all right, for
the same reason.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
We're gonna pause, take a break, come back, and I
think we can get through the rest of them.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
We still have Props.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
One twenty eight, one twenty nine, one thirty, and one
thirty one to go to make sure we get through
them all. So we'll take a time out here. On
Ryan Schuling Live, rounding things out on this Tuesday edition
of Ryan Schuling Live, exactly two weeks out from election day,
fourteen days, I'll be co anchoring coverage over on KOA.
To my knowledge, might change, I don't know, with Gina
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Gondek over there on that night. Floutd's thruly also in studio,
a highly respected political consultant. And the remaining four propositions
on the ballot. I'm going to go lightning round on
these next three. I'll get input from Kelly two, but
I'm a pretty easy yes on each of these. Prop
One twenty eight, Shall there be a change to the
Colorado Revised Statues concerning parole eligibility for an offender convicted
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of certain crimes and a connection therewith requiring an offender
who is convicted of second degree murder, first degree assault,
Class two felony, kidnapping, sexual assault, first degree arson, first
degree burglary, or aggravated robbery committed on or after one
twenty twenty five to serve eighty five percent of the
sentence imposed before being eligible for parole, and requiring an
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offender convicted of any such crime convicted on or after
jan one, twenty five who was previously convicted of any
two crimes of violence, not just those crimes enumerated in
this measure, to serve the full sentence imposed before beginning
to serve parole. Kelly, any disagreement, Nope, Yes, and that's
a George Brockler endorsed measure as well. Prop One twenty nine.
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Shall there be a change to the Colorado Revised Statues
creating a new Veterinary Professional Associate profession any connection therewith
establishing qualifications including a master's degree in veterinary clinical care
or the equivalent as determined by the State Board of
Veterinary Medicine, to be a veterinary Professional Associate, requiring registration
with the state Board, allowing a registered veterinary Professional Associate
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to practice veterinary medicine on the supervision of a licensed veterinarian,
and making a misdemeanor to practice as a veterinary professional
associate without an act of registration. In short, what this
does it allows perhaps slightly less qualified people in the
veterinary field to serve outlying areas that are more rural,
and it's harder for.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Regular vets to get to. Is my understanding, Kelly, What
say you, I'm a.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Yes on that, pad, I am a yes on that too,
And for all the things you just listed.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Okay, ye, more of the merrier, and they've got to
have supervision and they've got to be qualified.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
It just kind of augments that process.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Prop One thirty Shall there be a change to the
Colorader Revised Statues concerning State funding for Peace Officer Training
and Support and in connection therewith directing the Legislature to
appropriate three hundred and fifty million dollars to the Peace
Officer Training and Support Fund for municipal and county law
enforcement agencies to hire and retain peace officers, allowing the
fund to be used for pay bonuses, initial and continuing
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education and training, and a death benefit for a peace officer, police,
fire and first responder killed in the line of duty,
and requiring the funding to supplement existing appropriations. I'm a yes,
Kelly Big Yes, yep. That's a George Brockler Roof measure
as well. This is the one that's getting some consternation
from me. Prop One thirty one, Shall there be a
change to the Colorado Revised Statues creating new election processes
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over certain federal and state offices and in connection therewith
creating a new all candidate primary election for US Senate,
US House, governor, Attorney General, Secretary of State, treasurer, Cboard
of Regents, State Board of Education, and the Colorado State Legislature,
allowing voters to vote for any one candidate per office,
regardless of the voters or candidates political party affiliation, providing
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that the four candidates for each office who receive the
most votes advanced to the general election, and in the
general election, allowing voters to rank candidates for each office
on their ballot, adopting a process for how the ranked
votes are tallied, and determining the winner to be the
candidate with the highest number of votes in the final tally. Kelly,
what say you on Prop? One thirty one ranked choice voting?
No hard note from me. I know Mandy Connell and
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Rosskominski support it, but every Republican I know who wants
Republicans to win is against this measure. That includes Christy
Burton Brown, George Brockler, Dan Kaplis. I believe he can
clarify his own position and me so I can see
why somebody who's not a Republican might want to open
this process where I wide up. But my main point
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is this, the Colorado Republican Party is in bad shape.
It's under bad leadership. But the answer to that is
not making it worse. It can always be worse, and
I don't want to go from bad to worse. As
a Republican. I would rather close the primaries. I don't
want unaffiliated voters meddling in my primaries. Do you want
Nicky Haley voters in quotes kind of influencing where an
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election goes for the Republican primary when it comes to
Donald Trump in that instance, I thought that was an
impediment that was unnecessary, and a lot of those voters
were not Republicans, and I don't want them having a
say in who my candidate as a Republican is. If
we pick a bad candidate as Republicans as a party,
as leadership, that's on us and we're the dummies, and
we need to change our direction and trajectory.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
And I think that does need to happen.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
But I would rather there be new leadership in the
Republican Party. We get our blank together, if you know
what I mean, and we come up with better solutions
with better candidates, and we nominate those individuals on our own.
I don't want Democrats or independents coming in and mucking
up the works and selecting candidates for US and having
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an Alaska type situation where we saw Mary Peltola, a
Democrat who never should have won that race for US House.
She did because the vote was split between Sarah Palin
and another Republican candidate. Then the party can't consolidate around
one candidate with funding and staffing and support and advertising
and everything it takes to win a political campaign. I
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could not be a more firm no against rank choice
voting Prop one p thirty one than I am right now.
Everywhere it's been tried California, Maine, Alaska, Democrats have thrive,
Republicans have suffered. And on the Alaska ballot this time around,
they are voting whether or not to repeal the choice
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voting that they voted in. That should tell you all
you need to know. No on Prop one thirty one
ranked choice voting
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