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Speaker 1 (00:34):
What to do when it becomes too late for humans
to correct their behavior? Author researcher, professor, and climate change
expert David Hawk says such a question implies a need
for change, and herein an argument is presented that humans
believe in their own immortality, but a price is paid
(00:55):
for support of that belief. Humans protect themselves from change
via culture, and it's implied changelessness. As summers bring intolerable
heat that increases and storms that eliminate insurance companies, humans
began to think of change. Please welcome the host of
(01:18):
what to do when it becomes too late? David Hawk.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
He well, my friends, nice to see you again. I'm
very sorry about last week. I had shall we call
them technical difficulties, but fifty to seventy five mile an
hour whims went through this area and blew over some
of the main internet towers, so an essence, Internet was
(01:54):
wiped out for this part of Iowa for almost two days.
It was pretty bad wind. We weren't used to that. Anyway,
we're back and tonight I'll go through what I was
going to go through last week. Yes, if we could
(02:14):
begin with the first PowerPoint and again picking up with
the dimensions and dimensional issue, and yeah, we have these
dimensions minus zero through the fourth, which is more or
less the domain of it's too late and meaning that
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even though humans have created this situation, it's too late
for them to reverse it, even manage it, certainly to
stop it, and so it's hard for them to repair
the damage that they have started. So we're kind of
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arrive at some tough times for a living order. And
as I mentioned before, there are several tipping points which
we need to somehow deal with. And this is an
abstract if you will, of five of those tipping points
and how they were tipping points for me, that an
(03:20):
essence became tripping points as well, if you remember that
distinction that an essence fifth dimension. An essence brings up
the issue off it's too late, and so it's the
one way to deal with the it's too late, which
begins to make sense relative to human capabilities. My fear
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of all of this stuff began in nineteen sixty seven.
Its spirit got greatly expanded in sixty nine, and then
the at the time I was taught by industry executives
that an essence climate change would be upon as by
(04:06):
twenty one hundred so badly that much of life would
no longer be around on the planet by twenty one hundred,
and that really sparked me, and so in essence, in
seventy five I began to do a great deal of
research relative to climate change, from where it came to
(04:26):
where it's going, what it means, and in essence, if
you recall, the climate change is most worried about the
temperature rising on the planet plus two degrees celsius. Now,
the argument is has it gone one and a half
or not yet? Probably it has, But since that time
(04:50):
science has continually moved forward by saying that it's no
longer a twenty one hundred, it's more like twenty fifty
will be a major tipping point for humans, when in essence,
will better understand it's too late. And recently an article
came out in Science that in essence, that major tipping
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point may not be twenty one fifty, may indeed be
October twenty second, twenty thirty one, in that at that point,
within a few weeks either way, we may well see
the end of the circulatory system, which is the oceans
will no longer be moving and moving heat around on
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the planet. And moving heat and cold cold, as well
as many other aspects of life in the oceans. So
they have proposed October twenty second, twenty thirty one, let's
go on to the next now, of course, whether that
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is to be so or not. And I've been sort
of mythed by scientists because each time they announced a
certain tipping point, in essence, they come back a bit
later and point out that was too optimistic, it's more drastic,
and it's coming sooner anyway, not quite sure. But for me,
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two major tipping points, which in essence were tripping points
at the time you see within this power point. So
in essence, if you recall these having very much to
do with my experiences in Vietnam on the left, in
terms of this war that humans had against nature, then
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against each other, then of course against themselves, and it
was a pretty horrible experience, which I've talked about before.
In essence, I decided to do more study of it.
So when I returned from Vietna a year or two later,
I decided to go and study in Yucatan to study
if indeed the Mayan Indians had gone through this tipping
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point exercise at a small scale and the Yucatan by
an essence destroying nature, replace it with agriculture, get near
the trees, bushes, much of nature. But in essence that
ended up heating up the Yucatan and making it dry.
So drought and heat took over and citizens had to
abandon multimillion habit and habitat cities. Quite sad. Next image,
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and of course, if you the last time we mentioned
the idea of minus zero dimension, which I had defined
as pointlessness. And so if you won an image of pointlessness,
this is a pretty good one from Vietnam. Let's go
on to the next slight and an essence in essence
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that pointlessness soon related to hopelessness, and so many of
the people, at least the outside people going through Vietnam,
meaning mostly American soldiers, begin to learn a lot about hopelessness.
So an essence which dimensions generate hopelessness? And the scene
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on the left, which is a bombed out ocean front,
is a good indicator of hopelessness. Another one might well
be the Bob Hope shows that were showing around Vietnam
to entertain the troops. So, in essence, the one in
the right our troops from my company going off to
visit the Bob Hope Show. And in essence, as they
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said at the time, they're tired of helplessness, so they're
going to go look for hope, in this case the
Bob Hope next image. So now we arrive at a
little bit of what I learned from Vietnam in terms
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of expressions that qualify and go into some depth about
what in the hell is going on? What is happening?
And I talked about this at more length of a
few sessions ago. But in essence this has to do
with the time in Vietnam when I was loading dead
and wounded into my helicopter and a captain ordered me
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to stop that and instead shoot those people over the horizon.
The were escaping, but in essence they were primarily women
and children. So I suggested the captain that it would
be better for the world if I would shoot him,
And then, of course I was put on trial for
disobedience and other charges. And in essence, this one statement
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of mine, which continues to be a statement used every
now and then by Vietnam veterans to explain the hopelessness
of shall we say, the zero dimension or perhaps even
minus zero dimension of what we do relative to each other.
This was we the unwilling led by then qualified to
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kill the unfortunate, die for the ungrateful. Now I'd like
to find a similar comment from me relative to this
issue of climate change, and so I am working on
a similar comment that summarizes climate change. Next image please,
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And of course, before we leave Vietnam, keep in mind
that it was not a fun existence. This is me
sometime after January and nineteen sixty eight, going off on
one of my crew chief missions. In this case, I
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had been wounded in the forehead, and so in essence,
my right eye was damaged and that I never regained
much sight. And now, of course that eye has completely
gone with age, so I'm down to one eye and
my forehead still has a bit of shrapnel from this
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small event. Most interesting about this is this was never
recorded in the army records because I was too far
from civilization and seldom got to a hospital or anything
like that. Anyway, life's presumptions emerged from an experience in Vietnam.
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Next image please, And of course, in conclusion about Vietnam,
I've shown you this slide before, also really having to
do with a second dimension threat. Two life's third dimensional existence,
and in essence, the human acts in Vietnam, as well
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as back in the US and other places, demonstrated that
humans were out for short term gains, and even though
those had long term cost they somehow felt that technologically
we could override those long term costs. But let's go
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for those short term gains, which the good of Vietnam
and kill the enemy. However, we defined it over an
essence destroying much of nature, so we can use it
for other purposes and almost all cases short term gain,
long term pain. I do have a book of that title,
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which mostly sold in Europe, mostly used in courses in Europe.
Next image Police and then of course continuing that same
theme of me somehow being sent to pretty awful places
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against my will to somehow deal with them. Then some
years later I did not get along well with leadership
in Vietnam or at the universities I was teaching at.
So in essence, this is a newspaper article in Newark,
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New Jersey about David Hawk having tenure stripped taken away
from him for them, and it's noteworthy because it's the
first time I'm in the school's history that a professor
had tenure removed, and it began about two thousand and
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nine and ended about twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, after five
court cases. And I really enjoyed those court cases. Actually
I really enjoyed the whole process because I got a
chance to rethink the legal arguments for how we use
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legal order to establish what people should do and shouldn't do.
But in essence, it's how those in power, or those richer,
or those in charge can control things. And so in
this essence they had trouble controlling me, and we had
lots of difficulty over the years that I spent at
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this place called New Jersey Institute of Technology. Initially what
I was charged with eight charges, and during nine months
committee reviewed those charges and found me not guilty of
any of them. So then the president of the place
got really upset decided to hire outside people that he
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said were more competent in order to charge me, and
they came up with twenty five charges about things I
had done. I think I mentioned some before, but such
things as my resume was a liar, because they found
that I had published many more science papers than were
on this resume. I had gotten millions of dollars in
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research grants but were not listed on the resume. I
had done all kinds of things not listed on the resume.
Thus I was a liar. I had deceived people by
having a shallower resume than I actually deserved. That was
one of the twenty five charges. Others are even more interesting.
In essence, they were desperate. This comment comes from one
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of the star Ledger reporters, which called me and interviewed
me before she published this, and then promised to send
me a copy so I could review it. As she
always does, she lets the target review things. Of course,
never heard from her again. She was part of NGTY
and didn't want to be disrupted by me or truth
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or accuracy. Okay, let's take a break and then we
come back and start with the next image.
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Good. So then let's look at the next PowerPoint. So
the previous one was from about I don't know, twenty thirteen,
and this one is a few years later, I guess
twelve years later. That so people back then that, in fact,
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some former students from my classes then had seen this
picture in Times Square, had taken this picture and sent me,
plus they sent it back to the university the show.
Is this the person you fired and were so proud of?
And so it led to quite a bit of discussion
JT relative to what the hell's going on? We thought
(19:47):
we fired him? What's he doing in Times Square? And
why is he emphasized by Who's who? Doesn't make sense? Anyway,
This is a nice m to give those that were
sworn to be my enemies, and it doesn't mean much,
but it's sort of sort of cute. And yeah, so
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we go, well, good, next image, and then of course, yeah,
we've been here before. This is back at the zero
dimension or minus zero dimension in essence, seeking that line
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of the first dimension. Then see where power is on
which end of the line is it Donald Trump's end
or someone else's end. But once you see where more
people are standing, then you go there and you take
advantage of it. And it's the essence of the power
trip based on, of course, pointlessness. It's yeah, it's it's
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a bit too bad, a bit sad. I don't really
know what else to do. It's not good anyway. I'm
sure you recognize who is in this picture, and for me,
it's a great definition of pointlessness. Next image, please, And
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so then we get to this issue of leadership. And
the last slide was meant as an introduction to leadership,
which obviously I don't think much of.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
That.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
It's pretty easy in almost all cases for me to
demonstrate that the leadership either began with or ended with leadership.
So the ship becomes ship and looks like it, smells
like it, acts like it, and we get pretty disappointed
in our leadership. But nonetheless, these are three images about
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leadership which I had shown you months ago, but I
think they were worth going back and touching base with.
Of course, on the left is world leadership as we
now know it. I think HiT's about the same as
it was months ago before the election, same after. In
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the middle is this rather nice quotation by George Orwell
where he talks about the two sides left and right
of him, and which is that the further a society
drifts from truth, the more it will hate those that
speak it. And so that is an interesting definition for
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many many of the problems that we see in society.
And this is how we see climate change getting worse
and worse, more and more deadly, and not really being
dealt with. Much of the money is going in to
ignore it, not to try and control it or slow
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it down. And of course, within that same train of thought,
on the right, it's one of my favorite little images
which compares this little Swedish girl with that funny mister
orange or the funny orange man. And if you have
trouble reading that, the climate change issue is defined by
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a child who knows nothing about science and shouldn't be
given a platform. And then of course the other person
in that picture is Greta Thunberg. So obviously Donald gets
to be a child that knows nothing about climate change
or much of anything else, and he shouldn't be given
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a platform to speak from but he is next image. Please,
so in that sense we see all of this and
sorry sorry, so in essence, in order to make sense
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of all this stuff and the stuff that I've taken
you through, my advice is to try and make your
way back to nature, to better understand nature, to in
essence seek the spiritual. And that fifth dimension I talk
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about is very much the home of the spiritual. And
if you recall I said, it's not a religious spiritual
because for me, all religions are based on hierarchy, meaning
someone's in charge, and then you have this tree of
power coming down from whoever's in charge. And it's actually
very little difference to most governments in the world, which
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are also extremely hierarchical. Just like many of the old
lying companies, A few companies, at least some that I advise,
are making it out of the hierarchical routine and shifting
over to what I have come to call the network approach.
And so these are the extensive use of computers, which
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are based very much on network linkages and not so
much the hierarchy you find in the office. We find
many companies that do very very well based on a
network organization, not a hierarchy, and so the spiritual in
my fifth dimension is very much a spiritual which includes
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all living matter, not just humans. And so in order
to better understand that, I recommend going back to close
to nature. As you've seen in many segments of this program,
I've gone back to this place in Iowa, of al
was born and tried to connect to nature and in
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essence find a way to at least accept, if not
even glorify nature. So if you call this is my backyard,
and so I like very much being back in nature,
trying to understand it and trying to understand aspects of
the fifth dimension, and of course better understand entropy and
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why we should avoid negative entropy at all costs. Entropy
was that fourth dimension that's the pretty horrible one. If
you recall the third dimensions mother Nature, the fourth dimension
is Father Time, and so in essence, Father Time destroys
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all that comes out of Mother Nature. And it is
called the entropy law, which the leading scientists for the
last hundred years one hundred and fifty years I have
pointed out that the entropy process is the most important
law in the universe. It explains everything from the Big
Bang on and it also explains very much of what
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goes on in planets. So if indeed you want to
understand the process of this planet, you need to understand entropy.
And as you're understanding, please keep in mind that humans
cannot reverse entropy, but currently they are speeding it up,
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accelerating as an exaggerated pace. So, in essence, just getting
humans to not accelerate entropy, in other words, bring about
climate change would be a great plus. But we're not
there yet, are we. Next image, And in case you've
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any doubt about where this climate change comes from, in
other words, what creates the climate change consequences that we're
now meeting having to deal with. And this summer will
be probably more horrible than last summer, well, otive to
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heat and drought and storms. But nonetheless, the creator of
this climate change model that we're watching, in essence, I
call the industrial. That's the artificial, that's the idea of
short term gain, long term pain. So the industrial is
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a way of providing goods and services as quickly as
possible or as productively as possible, and not worry so
much about the consequences of having provided them or people
using them. So on the left is a little phrase
that I'm beginning to deal with in order to to
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well repeat a bit of what I did in Vietnam
relative to words that describe a mess and sort of
the doorway into hopelessness that we should avoid. But nonetheless
the phrases are we the un knowledgeable, which is true,
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led by the ignorant, meaning current leaders in the world,
which are worse than unknowledgeable, work to produce the cheap
that's vise the the industry at any cost, and then
to die under our own empire of dirt. So what
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does it all mean? So indeed, if we're headed this way,
and indeed it appears to be too late to reverse it,
to stop it, seems even to slow it down, we're
in trouble. So what do we do if it's too late?
And then I advise seeking the fifth dimension, meaning go
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back into nature, spend more time with nature, out in
the mountains, out in the forest, out in an effort
to try and understand the beauty of our earth and
what we've done to that beauty, and that will be
a great doorway into Wow. Maybe slowing down entropy a
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little bit, I'm not sure. Maybe I'm too optimistic, but Anyway,
this image is a pretty good image about climate change
from where it comes and what its consequences will be like.
You do remember I was writing a book as this
program was unfolding during the last year, and that book
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now has a cover and as well as the title,
as well as four hundred and seven pages content, and
so that book soon to be printed and out there.
Next time, I'll talk more about that book and its contexts,
and I'll try and give you a sense of why
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this set of programs were very instrumental in that book,
and so I'll try and use the outline from that
book to explain what we've been through in these programs. Initially,
we had some arguments or some doubt about the cover.
People in the publishing service were so happy about the
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cover on that book. Humans are fucked because they had
no idea that such a questionable title would become so
popular and incredibly popular, and so they wanted to find
an equally as popular cover for this book. And the
popular cover is one that, in essence, the viewer of
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the cover feels they don't need to read the book.
In essence, just looking at the cover, looking at the
visions there, you understand the contents of the book. Of course,
you should still read or you can't read it, But
the cover in essence, captures the book, and that book,
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if you recall, is titled can Humans Change? Comma anyway
before that is the sentence the climate is changing? And
then can humans change? It's a pretty tough pair of comments,
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and so the book has to do very much with
some of the climate is changing, but more with can
humans and perhaps they can't. I'm a little pessimistic about
humans changing, but in that book I go into much
depth on what's the problem with humans changing? And I'll
talk more about that. Initially, the publishing people put together
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a cover of my sister and a combine out in
the field with a storm overhead, and that was cute
and I think she would have enjoyed it, but it
had not so much to do with can humans change?
So indeed, the cover I will show you next time
has very much to do with the content, and so
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I hope you can look forward to seeing that cover.
I quite like it. It's pretty easy. Okay, thank you
very much. I tried to answer some of those questions
that some of you presented relative to who the hell
is David Hawk? Where does he come from. What were
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those problems in the past, those tipping points or tipping
points that caused him to think the way he does,
talk the way to right the way it does. And yeah,
not sure if I mentioned, but one of my books
has recently been bought by a major publisher for I
think three hundred and eighty thousand dollars plus forty percent
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of the price of each book that sold. Another book
is being discussed by a movie production company to pay
me eight hundred thousand for using the book as well
as the title of the book for the movie, and
then a percentage of each time the movie is shown.
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So in essence, maybe NJT that university was right in
firing me, but a lot of other organizations and people
think that that was pure silliness and the NJT instead
should have just listened. They might have learned something. But
I think that's a bit arrogant. I would not say,
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but these people that throw money, and keep in mind,
I don't keep that money. That money goes into a
charity of mine that pays off to charities, both of
which support children. And so I so far haven't kept
a dollar from any book or any publication or any
place or any movie. It all goes to where it's needed,
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not with me. Thank you very much, Thanks for your attention.
We'll see you next Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
This has been what to do when it becomes too late,
with host David Hawk. Recent studies conclude that about eighty
five percent are concerned with their being a human future.
They begin to sense that short term gains come at
a longer term price. Many are foregoing the idea of
(36:00):
immortality via having children. Tune in each week as David
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What to do when it becomes too late for humans
to correct their behavior? Author researcher, professor, and climate change
expert David Hawk says such a question implies a need
for change, and herein an argument is presented that humans
believe in their own immortality, but a price is paid
(00:55):
for support of that belief. Humans protect themselves from change
via culture, and it's implied changelessness. As summers bring intolerable
heat that increases and storms that eliminate insurance companies, humans
began to think of change. Please welcome the host of
(01:18):
what to do when it becomes too late? David Hawk.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
He well, my friends, nice to see you again. I'm
very sorry about last week. I had shall we call
them technical difficulties, but fifty to seventy five mile an
hour whims went through this area and blew over some
of the main internet towers, so an essence, Internet was
(01:54):
wiped out for this part of Iowa for almost two days.
It was pretty bad wind. We weren't used to that. Anyway,
we're back and tonight I'll go through what I was
going to go through last week. Yes, if we could
(02:14):
begin with the first PowerPoint and again picking up with
the dimensions and dimensional issue, and yeah, we have these
dimensions minus zero through the fourth, which is more or
less the domain of it's too late and meaning that
(02:38):
even though humans have created this situation, it's too late
for them to reverse it, even manage it, certainly to
stop it, and so it's hard for them to repair
the damage that they have started. So we're kind of
(03:00):
arrive at some tough times for a living order. And
as I mentioned before, there are several tipping points which
we need to somehow deal with. And this is an
abstract if you will, of five of those tipping points
and how they were tipping points for me, that an
(03:20):
essence became tripping points as well, if you remember that
distinction that an essence fifth dimension. An essence brings up
the issue off it's too late, and so it's the
one way to deal with the it's too late, which
begins to make sense relative to human capabilities. My fear
(03:43):
of all of this stuff began in nineteen sixty seven.
Its spirit got greatly expanded in sixty nine, and then
the at the time I was taught by industry executives
that an essence climate change would be upon as by
(04:06):
twenty one hundred so badly that much of life would
no longer be around on the planet by twenty one hundred,
and that really sparked me, and so in essence, in
seventy five I began to do a great deal of
research relative to climate change, from where it came to
(04:26):
where it's going, what it means, and in essence, if
you recall, the climate change is most worried about the
temperature rising on the planet plus two degrees celsius. Now,
the argument is has it gone one and a half
or not yet? Probably it has, But since that time
(04:50):
science has continually moved forward by saying that it's no
longer a twenty one hundred, it's more like twenty fifty
will be a major tipping point for humans, when in essence,
will better understand it's too late. And recently an article
came out in Science that in essence, that major tipping
(05:13):
point may not be twenty one fifty, may indeed be
October twenty second, twenty thirty one, in that at that point,
within a few weeks either way, we may well see
the end of the circulatory system, which is the oceans
will no longer be moving and moving heat around on
(05:36):
the planet. And moving heat and cold cold, as well
as many other aspects of life in the oceans. So
they have proposed October twenty second, twenty thirty one, let's
go on to the next now, of course, whether that
(05:59):
is to be so or not. And I've been sort
of mythed by scientists because each time they announced a
certain tipping point, in essence, they come back a bit
later and point out that was too optimistic, it's more drastic,
and it's coming sooner anyway, not quite sure. But for me,
(06:23):
two major tipping points, which in essence were tripping points
at the time you see within this power point. So
in essence, if you recall these having very much to
do with my experiences in Vietnam on the left, in
terms of this war that humans had against nature, then
(06:46):
against each other, then of course against themselves, and it
was a pretty horrible experience, which I've talked about before.
In essence, I decided to do more study of it.
So when I returned from Vietna a year or two later,
I decided to go and study in Yucatan to study
if indeed the Mayan Indians had gone through this tipping
(07:10):
point exercise at a small scale and the Yucatan by
an essence destroying nature, replace it with agriculture, get near
the trees, bushes, much of nature. But in essence that
ended up heating up the Yucatan and making it dry.
So drought and heat took over and citizens had to
abandon multimillion habit and habitat cities. Quite sad. Next image,
(07:43):
and of course, if you the last time we mentioned
the idea of minus zero dimension, which I had defined
as pointlessness. And so if you won an image of pointlessness,
this is a pretty good one from Vietnam. Let's go
on to the next slight and an essence in essence
(08:13):
that pointlessness soon related to hopelessness, and so many of
the people, at least the outside people going through Vietnam,
meaning mostly American soldiers, begin to learn a lot about hopelessness.
So an essence which dimensions generate hopelessness? And the scene
(08:36):
on the left, which is a bombed out ocean front,
is a good indicator of hopelessness. Another one might well
be the Bob Hope shows that were showing around Vietnam
to entertain the troops. So, in essence, the one in
the right our troops from my company going off to
visit the Bob Hope Show. And in essence, as they
(08:59):
said at the time, they're tired of helplessness, so they're
going to go look for hope, in this case the
Bob Hope next image. So now we arrive at a
little bit of what I learned from Vietnam in terms
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of expressions that qualify and go into some depth about
what in the hell is going on? What is happening?
And I talked about this at more length of a
few sessions ago. But in essence this has to do
with the time in Vietnam when I was loading dead
and wounded into my helicopter and a captain ordered me
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to stop that and instead shoot those people over the horizon.
The were escaping, but in essence they were primarily women
and children. So I suggested the captain that it would
be better for the world if I would shoot him,
And then, of course I was put on trial for
disobedience and other charges. And in essence, this one statement
(10:04):
of mine, which continues to be a statement used every
now and then by Vietnam veterans to explain the hopelessness
of shall we say, the zero dimension or perhaps even
minus zero dimension of what we do relative to each other.
This was we the unwilling led by then qualified to
(10:28):
kill the unfortunate, die for the ungrateful. Now I'd like
to find a similar comment from me relative to this
issue of climate change, and so I am working on
a similar comment that summarizes climate change. Next image please,
(10:53):
And of course, before we leave Vietnam, keep in mind
that it was not a fun existence. This is me
sometime after January and nineteen sixty eight, going off on
one of my crew chief missions. In this case, I
(11:15):
had been wounded in the forehead, and so in essence,
my right eye was damaged and that I never regained
much sight. And now, of course that eye has completely
gone with age, so I'm down to one eye and
my forehead still has a bit of shrapnel from this
(11:38):
small event. Most interesting about this is this was never
recorded in the army records because I was too far
from civilization and seldom got to a hospital or anything
like that. Anyway, life's presumptions emerged from an experience in Vietnam.
(12:00):
Next image please, And of course, in conclusion about Vietnam,
I've shown you this slide before, also really having to
do with a second dimension threat. Two life's third dimensional existence,
and in essence, the human acts in Vietnam, as well
(12:25):
as back in the US and other places, demonstrated that
humans were out for short term gains, and even though
those had long term cost they somehow felt that technologically
we could override those long term costs. But let's go
(12:45):
for those short term gains, which the good of Vietnam
and kill the enemy. However, we defined it over an
essence destroying much of nature, so we can use it
for other purposes and almost all cases short term gain,
long term pain. I do have a book of that title,
(13:08):
which mostly sold in Europe, mostly used in courses in Europe.
Next image Police and then of course continuing that same
theme of me somehow being sent to pretty awful places
(13:29):
against my will to somehow deal with them. Then some
years later I did not get along well with leadership
in Vietnam or at the universities I was teaching at.
So in essence, this is a newspaper article in Newark,
(13:51):
New Jersey about David Hawk having tenure stripped taken away
from him for them, and it's noteworthy because it's the
first time I'm in the school's history that a professor
had tenure removed, and it began about two thousand and
(14:11):
nine and ended about twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, after five
court cases. And I really enjoyed those court cases. Actually
I really enjoyed the whole process because I got a
chance to rethink the legal arguments for how we use
(14:33):
legal order to establish what people should do and shouldn't do.
But in essence, it's how those in power, or those richer,
or those in charge can control things. And so in
this essence they had trouble controlling me, and we had
lots of difficulty over the years that I spent at
(14:54):
this place called New Jersey Institute of Technology. Initially what
I was charged with eight charges, and during nine months
committee reviewed those charges and found me not guilty of
any of them. So then the president of the place
got really upset decided to hire outside people that he
(15:18):
said were more competent in order to charge me, and
they came up with twenty five charges about things I
had done. I think I mentioned some before, but such
things as my resume was a liar, because they found
that I had published many more science papers than were
on this resume. I had gotten millions of dollars in
(15:42):
research grants but were not listed on the resume. I
had done all kinds of things not listed on the resume.
Thus I was a liar. I had deceived people by
having a shallower resume than I actually deserved. That was
one of the twenty five charges. Others are even more interesting.
In essence, they were desperate. This comment comes from one
(16:06):
of the star Ledger reporters, which called me and interviewed
me before she published this, and then promised to send
me a copy so I could review it. As she
always does, she lets the target review things. Of course,
never heard from her again. She was part of NGTY
and didn't want to be disrupted by me or truth
(16:30):
or accuracy. Okay, let's take a break and then we
come back and start with the next image.
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Good. So then let's look at the next PowerPoint. So
the previous one was from about I don't know, twenty thirteen,
and this one is a few years later, I guess
twelve years later. That so people back then that, in fact,
(19:22):
some former students from my classes then had seen this
picture in Times Square, had taken this picture and sent me,
plus they sent it back to the university the show.
Is this the person you fired and were so proud of?
And so it led to quite a bit of discussion
JT relative to what the hell's going on? We thought
(19:47):
we fired him? What's he doing in Times Square? And
why is he emphasized by Who's who? Doesn't make sense? Anyway,
This is a nice m to give those that were
sworn to be my enemies, and it doesn't mean much,
but it's sort of sort of cute. And yeah, so
(20:09):
we go, well, good, next image, and then of course, yeah,
we've been here before. This is back at the zero
dimension or minus zero dimension in essence, seeking that line
(20:30):
of the first dimension. Then see where power is on
which end of the line is it Donald Trump's end
or someone else's end. But once you see where more
people are standing, then you go there and you take
advantage of it. And it's the essence of the power
trip based on, of course, pointlessness. It's yeah, it's it's
(20:56):
a bit too bad, a bit sad. I don't really
know what else to do. It's not good anyway. I'm
sure you recognize who is in this picture, and for me,
it's a great definition of pointlessness. Next image, please, And
(21:20):
so then we get to this issue of leadership. And
the last slide was meant as an introduction to leadership,
which obviously I don't think much of.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
That.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
It's pretty easy in almost all cases for me to
demonstrate that the leadership either began with or ended with leadership.
So the ship becomes ship and looks like it, smells
like it, acts like it, and we get pretty disappointed
in our leadership. But nonetheless, these are three images about
(21:58):
leadership which I had shown you months ago, but I
think they were worth going back and touching base with.
Of course, on the left is world leadership as we
now know it. I think HiT's about the same as
it was months ago before the election, same after. In
(22:20):
the middle is this rather nice quotation by George Orwell
where he talks about the two sides left and right
of him, and which is that the further a society
drifts from truth, the more it will hate those that
speak it. And so that is an interesting definition for
(22:43):
many many of the problems that we see in society.
And this is how we see climate change getting worse
and worse, more and more deadly, and not really being
dealt with. Much of the money is going in to
ignore it, not to try and control it or slow
(23:03):
it down. And of course, within that same train of thought,
on the right, it's one of my favorite little images
which compares this little Swedish girl with that funny mister
orange or the funny orange man. And if you have
trouble reading that, the climate change issue is defined by
(23:26):
a child who knows nothing about science and shouldn't be
given a platform. And then of course the other person
in that picture is Greta Thunberg. So obviously Donald gets
to be a child that knows nothing about climate change
or much of anything else, and he shouldn't be given
(23:48):
a platform to speak from but he is next image. Please,
so in that sense we see all of this and
sorry sorry, so in essence, in order to make sense
(24:11):
of all this stuff and the stuff that I've taken
you through, my advice is to try and make your
way back to nature, to better understand nature, to in
essence seek the spiritual. And that fifth dimension I talk
(24:31):
about is very much the home of the spiritual. And
if you recall I said, it's not a religious spiritual
because for me, all religions are based on hierarchy, meaning
someone's in charge, and then you have this tree of
power coming down from whoever's in charge. And it's actually
very little difference to most governments in the world, which
(24:54):
are also extremely hierarchical. Just like many of the old
lying companies, A few companies, at least some that I advise,
are making it out of the hierarchical routine and shifting
over to what I have come to call the network approach.
And so these are the extensive use of computers, which
(25:15):
are based very much on network linkages and not so
much the hierarchy you find in the office. We find
many companies that do very very well based on a
network organization, not a hierarchy, and so the spiritual in
my fifth dimension is very much a spiritual which includes
(25:37):
all living matter, not just humans. And so in order
to better understand that, I recommend going back to close
to nature. As you've seen in many segments of this program,
I've gone back to this place in Iowa, of al
was born and tried to connect to nature and in
(26:00):
essence find a way to at least accept, if not
even glorify nature. So if you call this is my backyard,
and so I like very much being back in nature,
trying to understand it and trying to understand aspects of
the fifth dimension, and of course better understand entropy and
(26:26):
why we should avoid negative entropy at all costs. Entropy
was that fourth dimension that's the pretty horrible one. If
you recall the third dimensions mother Nature, the fourth dimension
is Father Time, and so in essence, Father Time destroys
(26:46):
all that comes out of Mother Nature. And it is
called the entropy law, which the leading scientists for the
last hundred years one hundred and fifty years I have
pointed out that the entropy process is the most important
law in the universe. It explains everything from the Big
Bang on and it also explains very much of what
(27:10):
goes on in planets. So if indeed you want to
understand the process of this planet, you need to understand entropy.
And as you're understanding, please keep in mind that humans
cannot reverse entropy, but currently they are speeding it up,
(27:32):
accelerating as an exaggerated pace. So, in essence, just getting
humans to not accelerate entropy, in other words, bring about
climate change would be a great plus. But we're not
there yet, are we. Next image, And in case you've
(27:55):
any doubt about where this climate change comes from, in
other words, what creates the climate change consequences that we're
now meeting having to deal with. And this summer will
be probably more horrible than last summer, well, otive to
(28:16):
heat and drought and storms. But nonetheless, the creator of
this climate change model that we're watching, in essence, I
call the industrial. That's the artificial, that's the idea of
short term gain, long term pain. So the industrial is
(28:37):
a way of providing goods and services as quickly as
possible or as productively as possible, and not worry so
much about the consequences of having provided them or people
using them. So on the left is a little phrase
that I'm beginning to deal with in order to to
(29:00):
well repeat a bit of what I did in Vietnam
relative to words that describe a mess and sort of
the doorway into hopelessness that we should avoid. But nonetheless
the phrases are we the un knowledgeable, which is true,
(29:20):
led by the ignorant, meaning current leaders in the world,
which are worse than unknowledgeable, work to produce the cheap
that's vise the the industry at any cost, and then
to die under our own empire of dirt. So what
(29:42):
does it all mean? So indeed, if we're headed this way,
and indeed it appears to be too late to reverse it,
to stop it, seems even to slow it down, we're
in trouble. So what do we do if it's too late?
And then I advise seeking the fifth dimension, meaning go
(30:05):
back into nature, spend more time with nature, out in
the mountains, out in the forest, out in an effort
to try and understand the beauty of our earth and
what we've done to that beauty, and that will be
a great doorway into Wow. Maybe slowing down entropy a
(30:25):
little bit, I'm not sure. Maybe I'm too optimistic, but Anyway,
this image is a pretty good image about climate change
from where it comes and what its consequences will be like.
You do remember I was writing a book as this
program was unfolding during the last year, and that book
(30:51):
now has a cover and as well as the title,
as well as four hundred and seven pages content, and
so that book soon to be printed and out there.
Next time, I'll talk more about that book and its contexts,
and I'll try and give you a sense of why
(31:13):
this set of programs were very instrumental in that book,
and so I'll try and use the outline from that
book to explain what we've been through in these programs. Initially,
we had some arguments or some doubt about the cover.
People in the publishing service were so happy about the
(31:36):
cover on that book. Humans are fucked because they had
no idea that such a questionable title would become so
popular and incredibly popular, and so they wanted to find
an equally as popular cover for this book. And the
popular cover is one that, in essence, the viewer of
(31:59):
the cover feels they don't need to read the book.
In essence, just looking at the cover, looking at the
visions there, you understand the contents of the book. Of course,
you should still read or you can't read it, But
the cover in essence, captures the book, and that book,
(32:19):
if you recall, is titled can Humans Change? Comma anyway
before that is the sentence the climate is changing? And
then can humans change? It's a pretty tough pair of comments,
(32:41):
and so the book has to do very much with
some of the climate is changing, but more with can
humans and perhaps they can't. I'm a little pessimistic about
humans changing, but in that book I go into much
depth on what's the problem with humans changing? And I'll
talk more about that. Initially, the publishing people put together
(33:08):
a cover of my sister and a combine out in
the field with a storm overhead, and that was cute
and I think she would have enjoyed it, but it
had not so much to do with can humans change?
So indeed, the cover I will show you next time
has very much to do with the content, and so
(33:31):
I hope you can look forward to seeing that cover.
I quite like it. It's pretty easy. Okay, thank you
very much. I tried to answer some of those questions
that some of you presented relative to who the hell
is David Hawk? Where does he come from. What were
(33:52):
those problems in the past, those tipping points or tipping
points that caused him to think the way he does,
talk the way to right the way it does. And yeah,
not sure if I mentioned, but one of my books
has recently been bought by a major publisher for I
think three hundred and eighty thousand dollars plus forty percent
(34:16):
of the price of each book that sold. Another book
is being discussed by a movie production company to pay
me eight hundred thousand for using the book as well
as the title of the book for the movie, and
then a percentage of each time the movie is shown.
(34:39):
So in essence, maybe NJT that university was right in
firing me, but a lot of other organizations and people
think that that was pure silliness and the NJT instead
should have just listened. They might have learned something. But
I think that's a bit arrogant. I would not say,
(35:01):
but these people that throw money, and keep in mind,
I don't keep that money. That money goes into a
charity of mine that pays off to charities, both of
which support children. And so I so far haven't kept
a dollar from any book or any publication or any
place or any movie. It all goes to where it's needed,
(35:26):
not with me. Thank you very much, Thanks for your attention.
We'll see you next Wednesday.
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This has been what to do when it becomes too late,
with host David Hawk. Recent studies conclude that about eighty
five percent are concerned with their being a human future.
They begin to sense that short term gains come at
a longer term price. Many are foregoing the idea of
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immortality via having children. Tune in each week as David
talks about these and other important global issues Wednesdays, six
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