Trump Tariff Impacts, Why UNO Needs Investment and A Visit From The Marquis de Lafayette

Hy and Christopher start the show by celebrating the 200th Anniversary of the visit of the Marquis de Lafayette to New Orleans on his 1825 Farewell Tour. We are joined by General Lafayette himself (as well as his alter ego, Mark Schneider) and the President of the American Friends of Lafayette, Chuck Schwam.

We then talked to Trump tariffs and the potential deal to open 10% trade with 75 countries, and Christopher says the words you never expected, “Thank God for Benjamin Netanyahu and Elon Musk”.  Could expanded free trade follow?

For our main local topic, Christopher argues, “LSU Must Invest in UNO”

State Sen. Jimmy Harris, D-New Orleans, filed a bill last week to transfer the University of New Orleans, which has operated deficit and plunging enrollment, from the University of Louisiana system to the LSU system.  
     
From 1956 until 2011, UNO seemingly prospered under LSU’s aegis – boasting of tens of thousands of students and graduates. Senate President Cameron Henry and House Speaker Phillip DeVillier both believe it could be again, and the GOP leadership stands in bipartisan support of Harris‘ bill. The legislation to transfer administrative control of UNO (in the April 14 legislative session) comes after the Board of Regents unanimously voted in favor of returning administrative oversight to LSU. If Harris’ bill passes, the transfer process would happen before the fall semester begins, yet few have devoted much brain power into reasoning exactly how LSU would reverse the loss in student enrollment, now at just 6,500, nor how to cover a projected future debt over $30 million.
      
Mostly, though, the legislative discussion has ignored why UNO became successful in the first place. LSU-NO, as the former lakefront military base-turned-university was originally dubbed, enjoyed decades of success in large part due to the quality staff and academic programs and partnerships championed by its founding first chief executive, Dr. Homer Hitt,.  
   
He led UNO from 1958 to 1980, and throughout his tenure as Chancellor, sought to create a university to which students would be drawn for more reasons than easy driving distance from Metairie or Gentilly.
   
Carol Gelderman, later the famed biographer of Henry Ford and Louis Auchincloss, was one of the young junior professors recruited by Chancellor Hitt in the early days of LSU-NO. As a relatively unknown female junior professor, she seemed a risky choice for most academic recruiters. Rarely did single, female professors from out-of-state usually win such posts. However, Hitt saw talent beyond her gender and youth, and students would clamor to win a spot in her class over the decades. In an interview with The Louisiana Weekly prior to her death, Gelderman noted the intellectual atmosphere and sense of excellence which Hitt engendered.
    
Gelderman lamented, “When UNO was taken away from LSU…many of the departments that made it special were gutted.” Yet, she also admitted that that process was underway even before the transfer from LSU, as the school no longer had the leadership it once enjoyed.
   
From the beginning, Hitt put a premium on talent, recruiting other young trendsetting professors like Nick Muller, Maurice Villere, John E. Altazan, Tim Ryan, Ellis Marsalis and, of course, Stephen Ambrose. Under Hitt’s watch, not only would the history department birth Ambrose’s Eisenhower Center, the intellectual forerunner of the National World War II Museum; theatre would spawn Marsalis’ award-winning jazz performance program; and Altazan’s business department would engender a world-renowned economic analysis group under Rya

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
And God bless all out there. You now listening to
the founders. So the voice of the founding fathers, You're
Founding Fathers coming to you deep within the bowels of
those mystic and cryptic alligator swamps of the Big Easy,
that old Crescent City, New Orleans, Louisiana, and high up
on top of that old Liberty cypress tree draped in

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Spanish moss, and way out on the Eagles Branch, it's
none other. And then your spingary Baba of the Republic,
Chaplain Hi mcgnry, who is.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Christopher Tidmoury, a raving reporter, resident radical modern associate editor
of Louisiana Weekly Newspaper at Louisiana Weekly dot net and
high broadcasting today's show live from the Steamboat Matches on
the Mississippi River, where we are joined by the members
of the American Friends of Lafayette. On the two hundredth
anniversary of the arrival of the Marquis de Lafayette to

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Chalmet Battlefield and then to New Orleans on the steamboat Matches,
we made a visit to Chalmet Battlefield, where the tenth
anniversary of the battle in eighteen twenty five was celebrated
in the Marquida Lafayette.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
His farewell Tripp came.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Two hundred years ago to be greeted by Governor Henry Johnson,
then Governor of Louisiana, his predecessor Jacques Philipe Villaret Alamand
de Plantier, who had been Louisiana landowner and had been
Lafayette's aide de camp, and other dignitaries. That moment was
re enacted by the Lafayette Ran actor from Colonial Willisburg,

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Mark Schneider, and gave the speech at the time and
as part of a series of festivities that culminates actually
on Sunday at the Opera guild House.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
On Britannia This is Britannia and.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Second Street in the Garden district with a concert called
Romance in the Garden two hundred, celebrating two hundred years
of love Lafayette and the City of Lafayette, because of
course the garden District was named for the Marquis de Lafayette,
and that is open to the listeners of this program.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
All you have to do is show up there at
one o'clock.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
There's a small fee to enter, but it should be
a wonderful garden concert and it is here.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
And you extremely Christopher Tidmoll will be there as well.
But we're going to be.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Actually joined in just a moment by the Marquis de
Lafayette himself coming back from the grave, as well as
Mark Schneider and Chuck Schwab who's the head of the
National Friends of Lafayette, who've organized this wonderful group and
conference that's happening at the same time in the French
Quarter as French Quarter Fest. There's a new exhibit at

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the Cabildo.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
That is where the cabilla.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Was turned in the Marquis de Lafayette's home, and it
is an incredible thing that has the Villery bed, which
was the bed that was donated by Governor Hillary for
the Marquis Lafaette. You can actually go somewhere and so
the Marquis de Lafyette slept here.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
We got all that coming up.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Also later in the show, Hi, We've got we're going
to talk a little tariffs. We're going to talk about
the UNO transfer back to the LSU system. We're going
to talk about the coming legislative session, and a few
other political topics that are coming together here on this program.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
With no further ado. You know, Hi, I wish you
were with us here on the boat. But a quick
moment and your.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Thoughts, and then we'll go to our interview with Mark Schneider,
Chuck Schwam and the Marquis de Lafayette.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Your thoughts, Hi, Christ for many thoughts about this most
auspicious of occasions.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
To think of it, folks.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Two hundred years ago, the Marquis de Lafayette, General of
France came to America and was made of general actually here,
and he was known as Washington's son. Washington called him
my son, his own son, grew up in Washington's house
and also in John Adams. When he came to America

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in eighteen twenty five, it was a huge event across
our fruited plains. Wherever he went, people named their towns
and cities and counties and whatever rivers mountains after him, Lafayette.
He had that kind of an impact on this country.
He was beloved, He was a great diplomat. He was

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the one who made in many ways as the one
how we got France to join our side, which made
the huge, huge difference in the war. As we look
back and study the war, we realized without France we
probably very unlikely we could have won, other than the
mighty hand of God. But other than that, in the natural,
there's no way we could have won that war. Because
France really gave us the advantage that we needed and

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saved us at Yorktown.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
That's how we ended it. That's why the Battle of.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
York Town worked, because France was here blocking the British
ships so they couldn't get in the British fleet, and
de Grasse beat him out in the Atlantic there at
the entrance to Chesapeake Bay. Anyway, this was the most
auspicious time. Even we have Lafayette, the city of Lafayette,
Christopher mentioned it, which was once a garden district. I

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grew up there, and the famous cemetery there is called
Lafaette Cemetery. Lafayette, Louisiana used to be Mootau and they
changed the name to Lafayette. So I mean, really, this
man had a huge impact on America and it's wonderful
that was celebrating all across this country. Well, the places
he visited on mainland, you know, the Eastern Sea, boarding
down Ere and his travels to America. So, without further ado, Christopher,

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I can't wait to hear more about all this. This
is very exciting. Thank you, Christopher.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Joining us on the Founders Show.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
We are on the steamboat.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Natchez, and we have a very special guest.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
After two hundred years of being of traveling and being international.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Hero of liberty.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
We're joined by the Marquis de Lafytte himself, General Lafayette.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Welcome back to New Orleans after toury.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
Thank you so much for this kind invitation. It is
truly a delight to be here in the city of
Nouvelle Orleons amongst the people of Louisiana at the President
of Cossua, on board the steamboat Natchez. And I must
admit the last time I was on this said vessel,
we encountered a great storm and we put out into
the Gulf, where I became horribly seasick. Thank goodness, the

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weather is much better this day. But I am pleased
to be back in America courtesy of your President of
these United States, mister James Monroe, as a guest.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Of the nation. So thank you, my friend.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
This nine month trip, of course, is legendary, your farewell
tour for America, and you come to New Orleans and
you're planning I'm told to spend more time in New
Orleans than any other place except with you, your friends,
mister Jefferson at Monticeva.

Speaker 6 (07:02):
Yes, of course, in Virginia, I spent the lengthiest amount
of time in what they called the tide water. But
here in Louisian a place which I had never been before.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
But as such French culture.

Speaker 6 (07:14):
I could not help but decide to say five long days.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
And of course we know that you were once offered
our governorship and you heavily prayed here and we're we're
in New Orleans. Are very proud to have you back
here for the two hundredth anniversary of your visit here
to nouvel LEO.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
And I am so honored that you offered me the
opportunity to perhaps become governor of Louisian but at that
moment in my life, it just was not possible.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
But now I can.

Speaker 6 (07:41):
Come back to enjoy, to meet old friends and new
and look at this beautiful country that you have.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
And folks, you often think you're actually sitting across Marquis
de Lafayette, but what you're sitting across is one of
the foremost historians and historical reenactors, both of Colonel Williamsburg
and Europe.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
You were listening to note all they to Lafyett.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
You're listening to Mark Schneider, one of the foremost historians,
and sitting next to him is Chuck schwab of the
National President of the American Friends of Lafayette, who helped
organize not just what we're doing here in Louisiana for
the visit, but this nine month celebration of the Marque
visit two hundred years ago, and it's a signature moment
in eighteen twenty five. Chuck, and you've dedicated pretty much,

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you cancel your life for the last three years to do.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
This with us. And we're very appreciative here.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
I mean, we've had John Skirch on the air and
others talking about it, but we're very appreciative of the work.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
You've been doing.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Explain to people who may not be aware how important
not only a Lafyette was, but his visit in eighteen
twenty five the signature moment of America.

Speaker 7 (08:40):
We were just trying to make sure people understand.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
That his visit was.

Speaker 7 (08:45):
It was in a moment in time when he made
sure Americans understood that we might not be creating everybody equally,
we might not be doing what we said in the
Declaration of Independence. And he wanted to remind people that,
you know, it didn't matter what race you were, matter
what gender you were, don't matter what you were. A
human being and human rights champion he was, and he

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traveled around the country showing people that that was important
by hugging African Americans, or treating women as intellectual equals,
or visiting the Native Americans, much to.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Other people's chagrin.

Speaker 7 (09:16):
And these were acts of defiance and making sure that
people understood that all people are created equal.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
And Markshyer, you're not only a Lafyette rete actor. You
react several different famous historical figures, from Napoleon to Rochambeau.
We'll talk about that because you run an institute for
that with Colonia Williamsburg. But it's interesting I love the
passion of which would come in when you appeared at
the Cabildo yesterday evening as we're taping this, and you
talked about the fact of Lafayette's outspokenness against slavery, his

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support of Native American rights when people were starting to
plan the events here in New Orleans and he came in.
People are like another one of these historical figures. You
can't say that about Lafayette. He was a man ahead
of his time in so many different ways.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
Absolutely, in many ways, Lafayette is a twenty first century
man living in an eighteenth century world. And many of
these strong points that he was in favor of, such
as ending the institution of slavery, creating more opportunities for
the Native Americans to retain the treaties to make them
part of the country, rights for women.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Really an incredible man.

Speaker 6 (10:25):
And my role in the Colonie Williamsburg Foundation in Williamsburg,
Virginia is education. The number one priority we have is
teaching people about the past. I always end my programs
by saying, all the answers to the future are found
in the past. If we study our history, and Lafayette
is certainly somebody to learn from about all of the

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things he had done during his time that can be
applied today in this modern world we live in.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
It is often sometimes when you're reading the words of Lafayette,
you're reading someone who's speaking in issues in the nineteenth,
twentieth and sometimes the twenty first century, and you spend
a lot of I'm talking about forgotten figures of history
that deserved more attention. I know we're about to get
to the three hundred anniversary of Rochambau.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Could you speak about that absolutely.

Speaker 6 (11:08):
The commander of the French forces that helped Washington win
it Yorktown was a man by the name of General
Jean Baptiste nasienevi le Conchambo, and he was selected by
the French king and the ministers because he was the
best of the best in the French army. He had
gone to the Ecola Minitio Royale, had served in the
War of Austrian Succession, the Seven Years War. He was

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a man who was very, very talented. He reformed the
French army after the Seven Years War, and that's the
army he took to America to help Washington win at Yorktown.
But what was really great about Rochambo is that I
think because he initially was studying to become a priest
when his elder brother died and thus he had to
become a soldier, that he kept that humble attitude of

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a priest, and he applied that to his generalship.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
During the war.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
I don't think many generals who were seen to Washington
militarily as well as socially would have been so ready
to serve under Washington's command, but Rochambo.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Certainly was, and he was in so many ways the
forgotten diplomat of the Revolutionary War.

Speaker 6 (12:13):
He's not only the forgotten soldier in general, but diplomat
as well.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
We needed somebody like.

Speaker 6 (12:18):
Rochambo to work with Washington, and as a credit to Washington,
Washington often said that he had an efficiency of education,
but he would surround himself with experts, people who knew
their subject, and Rochambau was such a man.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
And it was Rochambo who convinced Washington.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
Not to attack New York City but instead to come
to the tidewater of Virginia and trap Lord Cornwallis at Yorktown.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
And we know how that ends.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
And it's also interesting that it was Washington who has
this very young man who's almost like an adoptive son.
But he's listening to Lafayette on how to build the
trench warfare to attack in Yorktown. So he's taking advice
from all different sources. And the interesting part Church. I
keep this brief because I know you guys are busy,
but the American Friends of Lafayette is the organization that

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you have shepherded tirelessly for the last several years. It's
one that general public, I know, but it's put on
this nine month event.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
Can you talk a little bit about.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
The organization, how it works, and if somebody wants to join,
tell them how to do it.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Thank you, I will do that. So we were born
in nineteen thirty two at Lafiatte College.

Speaker 7 (13:15):
We have almost two thousand members across the country and
we're literally following Lafaytte' footsteps exactly. Hasn't happened every day
for the entire tour. So he was here today, we're
here today, last week Alabama, next week in Mississippi. So
we're recreating these events exactly as they happened and we're
educating the public. So this is what our mission is,

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is to educate the public, not only about Lafayette, but
about the importance of our friendship with France and Lake.
Lafayette said to my right over here, why history is important.
You can join the American Friends of Lafayette by visiting
us at Lafayett two hundred dot org or Friends of
Lafayette dot org.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
And we'd love to have you.

Speaker 7 (13:56):
We have a good time while learning and teaching people
about this important subject.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
To conclude, if from Merk Schneider, actually the Marquis de
Lafayette took the matches to Chaomat Battlefield and then got
off and greeted and then went into New Orleans. We
kind of reversed that because we could dock there. But
this morning you were at Chalmet Battlefield and you were talking.
And for those of us that are descendants of the battle,
and I put on the historical reenactment ten years ago

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of the bi centennial, and my foundation did it.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
It was to us.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
It was the moment that a lot of New Orleanians
who were French born, who weren't exactly enthusiastic about being Americans,
felt they truly were accepted as Americans, and you caught that.

Speaker 6 (14:36):
In your speech, absolutely, and that's you know, America is
a melting pot. New Orleans is a melting pot of
so many cultures, and I think all those different cultures
bring the best of their culture to America. The Battle
of New Orleans is a perfect example of that, where
you not only have American regulars and soldiers, but militia
that are French ancestry or Spanish. You have Choctaw Indians,

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you have people of color, all serving under the same
banner against a common foe, that of England. Lafayette was
certainly a man who was in favor of inviting everyone
to the table, of welcoming everybody under.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
The banner of American freedom, and he.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
Was willing to give his life for that. That's an
impressive man.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Mark Schneider, Chuck shand thank you both for joining us,
and thank General Lafayette for also joining us on the air.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Thanks right, wow, Christopher, this is great. I mean, we're
so honored to have this here in our city. And
I know there's more to go, and Lafayette has some
more words for us, so tell us more about what
he might have for us.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Hi, before we go into the break, let's hear a little.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Bit more of Mark Schneider as the Marquis de Lafayette.
He's part of his speech at the Cabildo welcoming the
two hundredth anniversary of the visit of the Marquis de Lafayette.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Listen in, folks, Yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (16:00):
Don't want to speak too highly of myself, but there
are a few things that I had gone through us
the history of this nation that I think are worthy
of remembrance, and I think are worried the worthy of.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Emy lady in the future.

Speaker 6 (16:14):
Gentlemen, ladies, The reason I came to America in the first.

Speaker 8 (16:17):
Place was the simple fact that I believed in what
the Aneticans.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Were fighting for.

Speaker 6 (16:23):
In truth, I felt it was a wall like none
of us in the history of man, a waw of
great ideas.

Speaker 8 (16:30):
Of the freedom even a little assion mankind, A wall
that did embrace the ideas of the great thinkers of
what many called an enlightened age, some calling it to
an age of reason.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
Many of those great philosophs like Bontess, whoso must.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Feel lost, who are speaking of representation in government, of
an equality.

Speaker 8 (16:49):
Of mankind, and a man no matter what class.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
In society, he might be more whether he leave black
or white, Catholic and positive, rich or all its folks.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
What a powerful speech, My goodness, I really am enjoying this.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
You know. He mentioned some things.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
That were very pertinent to the time, if you will.
We had just fought the Battle of New Orleans, you know,
fifteen years before, I guess ten years before.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
And.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
It had a huge impact on this country because that
I call that the last battle of the American Revolution. Yeah,
treaty had been signed, but it meant nothing because according
to terms of the treaty, we still at war, and
the prison are not playing to quit.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
They never quit. I was fully convinced that.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Well I look back, I wasn't doing this ahead of time,
but back as I look back, I realized after the
American Revolution, the British weren't giving up. They were just
because they never give up. They would come back like
they did with all the other countries, and they'd take
their crown jewels of their of their colonies, their American colonies,
they'd take them back. Well, that was the plan for
the War of eighteen twelve, and they needed a break.

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The only reason they gave us a treaty. Was they
needed a break. They had They had won almost every battle,
every land battle. We were in big time trouble. They
had taken the capitol, burned it to the ground.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
We didn't. We were in terrible shape. And our our
you know.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Side rushed to the treaty table begging for you know,
the end of the hours. But the treaty was all
in their favor, and it didn't even end the war, folks.
Both sides had to uh, you know, accept the treaty
in their in their congress's parliament, and so the war
was ongoing, and even in the terms of.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
The treaty it said we were still at war. And
you know, the British knew that.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
That's why they built the largest armada of ever across
the Atlantic and sent it to New Orleans, the largest amount.
Everybody who were in the war, you don't build a
great armada. Uh So, yeah, this was going to be
a devastating thing. And that's what made the Battle of
the Rans so huge that it finally ended the British
efforts to take America. The battle was so complete, the

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defeat was so extreme, and all the other circumstances surrounding it.
The only reason the British gave us the time break.
They needed a time because they need to deal with Napoleon.
They need want to bring all their troops back to
Europe and finally in Napoleon, and they did at the at.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
In the Peninsula campaign.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Of course, he came back, you know, a year later,
and they finally had to go back and beat him
at Waterloo.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
But anyway, and all.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
That played into this whole larger picture, if you will.
But a very important saying came out of that war,
and it came from Henry Clay. He said two things.
And you know, Henry Clay was the great, one of
the greatest orators of American history, one of the great statesmen.
He's a compromise of Kentucky boy, I mean, a great man.
And so he said two very important things. And he

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loved New Worms. He used to come down here all
the time. We had we even have Henry Clay's stature.
He used to live in in doctor Mercer's home on
Canal Street, who was very good friends with him. Anyway,
this is what he said about the Battle of New
Wals He said, he said that America was not born
on the fourth of July, America was conceived. America was
born on the plains of Shao Met at the Battle

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of New Orleans. And then he said another thing. It
sounds very strange. He said that the Battle of New
Orleans was truly the first great American battle fought in
this country. Now wait a minute, I'm thinking, come on,
Henry Clay, I mean, have you forgotten Boston, Taekwonderoga, Saratoga, Princeton, Trenton,

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King's Mountain, Cowpins, of course, York Town.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
Have you forgotten all those battles.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
I mean, they were great victories, and they were important
victories for America in the American Revolution. But this is
what he meant. He redefined the word American. Before the
Battle of New Orleans. In the early early stages, everybody
thought America was made up mainly of people from the
British Isles, which it was as fine as an English colony.

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Had some French and a very few Spanish, and the Germans.
They had a good bit of Germans here at that time.
But maybe the people from the Europeans, from the northwestern
part of Europe. And that's how people saw America. He
redefined it to a nation of many nations a melting pot.

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Like General Lafia had just mentioned, it really truly was
a melting pot.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
Think of it.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
I mentioned about three or four nations that were very
involved with the founding of America. Well, at the Battle
of New Orleans there were over forty different nations and cultures.
We even had the Filipinos and the Chinese in that
battle fighting for America. He redefined the word American, which
would have made that if America is now a melting pot.
The truly first truly American battle fought in America. It

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was considered being one of the greatest battles ever fought.
We all knew it back then. That's one reason Lafey
had put a big thing about going to the battlefield
and seeing it all, because it saved America, and it
just didn't save this country.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
It saved the Union.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
It saved us from the British, but it also saved
us saved the Union because at the time of the
Battle of New Walls, New England was seceding from the Union.
They knew the British were going to win. They knew
they were going to take America, and they wanted to
be on the winning side, so they were going to
secede from America still while we were still at war,
joined the British and you know, figured out they'd come
out ahead that way. Well, when they saw that we

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won the Battle of New Orleans, it ended the whole
secessionist movement in New England because they knew now they'd
be on the losing side. So it had a and
because of that it was called the miracle in the Mississippi.
There were only two holidays after the Battle of New Orleans,
and that was the fourth of July and the Battle
of New Orleans. That's how important it was at that
time in American history. Revisionist historians have changed the story.

(22:46):
They loved to say, oh, the treaty had already been signed,
but they didn't know what you now know. Anyway, let's
hear some more about Lafayette, and I think, Christopher, you
have a few more things to tell us before we
take our breaks.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
So take it away, Christopher.

Speaker 9 (23:00):
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And Christopher has some very interesting things for us. So
this is Chaplin High McHenry and we're gonna hear about education, LSU,
you and O, etc.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Well, Monday, April fourteenth high marks the beginning of the
legislative session and it's it's different than everyone expected. We
thought it was going to be a quiet legislative session
where you know, some there'll be a surplus, and the
major tax issues already been resolved, and of course the
defeat of Amendment I meant that the amendment is going to.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
Be reintroduced in different fashion.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
And more importantly, we're running one hundred million dollar deficit
and there's a lot that ended up on the equation
that's even non fiscal for fiscal measures. One of the
things that we found out today is an HB one
that's the main budget bill, House Bill one. The live
performance tax credits are not their sun setting in July,

(26:39):
and they're ten million dollar credit. Apparently there's a one
point four million dollars to renew them. But that's a
fraction of what they pay out right now. So we're
going to see how that goes. But I'm more interested
in that the non fiscal bills that have a real
impact on.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
The fiscal situation of the life.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
And there's a new bill before the Louisiana State Legislature
that would set in motion a plan to return the
University of New Orleans to the LSU system. Hi, there's
a gentleman a state center from New Orleans. His name
is Jimmy Harris. He filed a bill last week to
transfer UNO, which as most of you know, is in
the throngs of an urgent financial crisis, from the University
of Louisiana system back to the LSU system.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
From nineteen fifty six until.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Twenty eleven, UNO seemingly prospered under LSU's aegis, posting tens
of thousands of students and graduates. Now, Senate President Cameron
Henry and House Speaker Philip de Villier.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
Believe it could again.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Their bill before the upcoming legislative session comes after the
Board of Regents that's the governing body that oversees higher education,
unanimously voted in favor of returning UNO.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
To LSU.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
If the legislation passes, the transfer process would happen before
the fall semester begins. Yet few have devoted much brain
power high into reasoning exactly how ls SHE would reverse
the loss in student enrollment, which is now below seven
thousand people, and how to cover the almost thirty million
dollar deficit. In part, much of the discussion ignored YU

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and O became successful in the first place, and that's
one of the points I made.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
An op ed in the Louisiana Weekly this week.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
LSUNO, as the former Lakefront military base turned university was
originally dubbed, was successful in large part because of the
quality staff and programs that it's founding chief executive director,
doctor Homer Hit, championed. Homer Hit was first vice president

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and then chancellor of the university.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
He was the first chief executive of.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
You and O from nineteen fifty eight to nineteen eighty
after having served as dean of Louisiana State University. Distinction
that has transfer in fifty seven to fifty eight from
vice president charge to chancellor.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
It's not just an academic way of titles.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Hit wanted to create a university in which students would
be drawn for more reasons than it was an easy
drive from Metaier Gentili. Everybody thinks of UNO as a
commuter campus, but it actually was a lot more for
a very long time. Carol Gelderman, later the famed biographer
of Henry Ford and Lewis Auchincloss, was one of the

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young junior professors recruited by Chancellor Homer Hit in the
early days of LSU UNO. As a relatively unknown female
junior professor, she seemed at first a risky choice for
most academic recruiters.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
However, Hit saw.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
A talent beyond her gender and youth, and this was
controversial in the sixties, and students would clamor to be
in her class over the decades. In an interview with
The Louisiana Weekly prior to her death, Gelderman noted the
intellectual atmosphere and sense of excellence that Hit engendered. He
would fight for resources and for departments for what most

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university legislators would kind of considered a lu and O
to be more than a commuter campus not worthy of investment,
He did a lot more. He Hit put a premium
on talent, recruiting other young, trendsetting professors like Nick Mueller.
He went on to found the World War Two Museum,
Maurice Villery, John Altsaman who founded the Business Apartment, Tim

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Ryan who is later CEO and.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
Also one of the great economic.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Analysts and of course analyst, and of course Ellis Marsalis,
and most importantly Steven Ambrose. Under hits watch, not only
would the History Department bert the Eisenhower Center, which is
the forerunner of the National World War Two Museum, but
theatre would span the award winning jazz performance program. The
Business Apartment would engender the renowned Economic Analysis Group, Mechanical

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engineering would be a would be a national destination for
aspiring engineers, which helped fuel a construction boom in Louisiana,
and most importantly, the NAVA Architecture program reached international standing.
And hit achieved these goals in a large part high

(31:14):
with relatively low money, by creating strategic partnerships both with
industry and with the nonprofit sectors. And he stood by
his professors even when jealousy and academia resented best selling authors.
A key research grants going to suppose the small, second
rate college. In other words, he created an intellectual atmosphere
that students wanted to go to and today still has.

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UNO still has award winning programs Naval Architecture and mechanical
engineering and Life for Florence Jazz, but it's collapsed everywhere else.
For example, history doesn't have an Eyeenowur Center anymore. One
of the things that needs to do to succeed is
to restore its relationship with the National World War Two Museum.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
Originally, that museum.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Was supposed to be in nexus of an American Studies
program at UNO specializing in twenty eight century political and
military history. The World War Two Museum did create actually
a graduate program. The thing is UNO's collapse meant that
they had departure with the University of Arizona for a

(32:15):
program in history that was supposed to be at UNO.
That's how you get your master's degree in American Studies
from the World War Two Museum. You know, it's funny
when LSU leased the campus near Legian Fields Avenue was
a vacated Navy air station.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
I keep thinking about what Homer sit said.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
It was an abandoned station with barracks and hangars and
concrete ships. Before UNO, New Orleans was the largest in
America without a public college. He built it into so
much more, and that's my worry. In order to fix
these problems, simply turning LSU into the owner of UNO,
and UNO into like LSU Alexandria, LSU Shreeport, basically a

(32:53):
satellite campus that doesn't have much point ignored what made
UNO successful in the first place.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
I'm all for putting in the LSU system. That was
one of the things.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Carol Gelderman noted that the loss of LSU ended up
being a prestige loss, but ultimately that if they're not
looking at creating programs or departments that are as ranked
as anything that the main campus has, there's no point
in any of this. There has to be a serious
discussion about actually transferring some departments of LSU to UNO

(33:27):
to help its standing, to give people a reason to
go to school there. LSU is oversubscribed with students. It
actually is at a crunch place, and there's some programs
it would make a lot more sense to be on
the UNO.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
Campus in the LSU campus.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
I could go through the list, but it makes there's
little point in taking over UNO without LSU truly designating
academic programs that could do in today's world. What homer
Hit managed to do in the nineteen sixties. We won't
get another homer Hit. It's the kind of academic a

(34:00):
chancellor that comes along once in every two or three
generations in a state.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
But we could get a true.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Partnership, not just a stepchild of a system, which is
what UNO is now and frankly was in the last
few years at LSU.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Your thoughts high, well.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yes, Chrisopher, you bring up some very good points about
you and O and hopefully that we'll be an equal
partner if you will with LSU. And I do remember
the very early days of you and I. I remember going up.
My father would take me out there. You love to
go out there Camp Lee Roy Johnson and show me
around when we were kids, and he loved going out there.
And I remember when they turned it into the university

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you and O. Oh, he was actually LSU and O
and it was they used the old military buildings to
start off with, and then eventually they started building more
you know, modern buildings and whatnot. And the great background
story on what you and O has done over the years.
Really it's an amazing school. Think of it. Really the

(34:59):
founder of the UH the World War two museum and
on it.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
We can go on and on there.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
We even we're going to do a computer Uh you know,
I t uh project out there at the old Potch
train Beach.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
They built the buildings. I got it going.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
I don't know how far it went, but at least
they had it going. And so I really hope they
can bring you and no needs to be brought back
and it needs to be saved. It's it's a great
school and a great you know, asset for New Orleans.
So I'm all with you here on this, Chris, for
I hope you get it done and it's comes close
to your heart. You were you went to U n O.
You matriculated there, you were the understudy of Ambrose. I

(35:33):
mean quite quite a time there. So let's let's all
do all we can, folks, to try to make the
best of this.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
For you and O and Uh.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Anyway, Chrisphy, I think you got some more thoughts for us,
maybe terrorists. We're going to get into some terrorifts here.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Lastly, Hi, before we leave all politics, I wrote something
in the Louisiana Weekly which I thought I would never
write because I thought that would never publish.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
And you're going to find it interesting.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
The op ed editorial actually started with the words thank
god for Elon Musk and Benjamin Netton value.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
What was I talking about?

Speaker 3 (36:10):
We were going to off a cliff with these tariffs,
and I'm hoping to God you're right and I'm wrong.
And to his credit, President Trump made a reversal on
Thursday that made the markets rally all across the world
and Wednesday and Thursday, and what he did was he
basically said, the seventy five countries that have reached out

(36:31):
to the United States will only have a tariff of
ten percent and will negotiate trade deals. And what this
all came about was something that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
Att and Tayu who visited with President Trump this week.
He proposed something that is beyond any trade deal the
United States is negotiated outside of North America and even

(36:51):
beyond some of the USMCA. Essentially, he said, no restrictions.
We'll have complete free trade with the United States in
every sector, including agriculture and everything we do. No restrictions,
no limits, open borders for economics, period, end of discussion.
It would be trading with for a Louisiana and trading
with Israel would be like trading with Hawaii. In fact,

(37:14):
it's arguably it might be even easier. It would be
like a domestic trade. What mean and how you did
was give Trump a way out of this ever increasing
international trade war by saying, okay, mister President, I declare
you win, and we are putting nothing up. We just
ask you, if you know we lower everything on you

(37:34):
and basically give you full access to our economy.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
You do the same.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
It's the ultimate fair trade. It's treating someone with no limits.
One of the problems America does have in trade, that's
a very legitimate criticism that Trump has made and others
have made, is that a lot of free trade agreements
don't include agriculture. And the way it's referred to in
the UK is chlorinated chicken, because we our major chicken
producers like Tyson chlorinate the chicken to kill germs, and

(37:59):
that's illegal in.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Most of the world.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
However, that's never been shown that it actually causes health problems.
RFK Junior thinks it says it we put certain dyes
in our food, red number one and all this that
RFK has been bringing up, you know, was the reason
foot loops looks different in the United States than everywhere
else in the world because they use actual fruit in.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
The fruit loops. Everywhere else we don't.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
But what it does allow is the United States in
general special treatment aside has the most productive agriculture sector
on the planet, and a lot of countries protect their
agriculture sector even when you have free trade or open
trade with them in other areas.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
What Israel said was no protection. We got it all.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
And basically Trump has a thing to say. Okay, Israel
set the tone. Everybody who wants free trade does it Israel.
He hasn't said that, He hasn't even said there will
be free trade with Israel yet.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
But it changed it.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Elon Musk immediately jumped in and defended this deal. He said,
this is a great move, you know, thank you Nett
and tell you this is what you need to do,
mister President Musk.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
Was it tacked by Peter Navarro.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Peter Navarro wants high tariffs to produce revenue and to
protect the US market. He does not like any form
of free trade, even with the countries that we have
trade surpluses with. In other words, we make money on
trading them. We don't lose money. He doesn't like that. Now,
this created a rather asinine and you and I think
it's a fair statement to say asenine exchange to where

(39:25):
Musk was calling, you know, Peter Retardo and it was
back and.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
Forth on X on Twitter.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
But it has apparently had an effect on President Trump.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
And here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Dan Hannon, who is a writer in the UK, he
pointed out and said, you know, the Trump tariffs have
been the worst thing in the world economy, except if
Trump pulls this off, if he takes Nit and Tayu's proposal,
and he says, everybody could have free trade if we
break down every single trade barrier. You're done, period, Trading

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between Israel and Louisiana is like trading between Louisiana and
California or whatever you would.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
Have to do.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Then suddenly these really did become what Trump proposed, an
open trade.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
However, here's the rankle.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Most of this advisors around Trump musc aside, do not
want that to happen because they see tariffs protective tariffs
is not only a way to protect industry, but a
way to raise money for the federal government to pay
for because you can have in theory, a bigger tax
cut if you have tariffs. Tariffs, however, as you and
I know, higher sales taxes, it's all they are. There's

(40:34):
nothing complicated about them. They're not evil, they're not good.
They're tax They're sales tax, sales tax and things coming
in from the outside, and so sales taxes, as we know,
hit the poor. They are also a very efficient form
of taxation. So here's the question. What is more important
to Donald Trump true free trade that is true fair trade,

(40:54):
true open, true equal playing ground for everybody, or raising
revenue and cutting the US economy off the international revenue.
I would point out that the proposed tariffs on the
rest of the world twenty one to twenty five twenty
seven percent I'm excluding China, where it's proposed one hundred
and four percent. That is higher than the smooth Harley

(41:15):
tariffs that help trigger the Great Depression. If Trump, however,
is doing a ten percent tariff down to no tariffs,
that's not a bad way of achieving open borders.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
My fear high, though, is what Trump is going to.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Do is going to not listen to Musk and is
to listen to Navarro and most of his advisors who
say no, there's no such thing as good open trade.
We shouldn't trade with the rest of the world unless
we're making a lot of money on it. And frankly,
what we should do is be fortress America. And that
is not a way to make America great because all
it means is that the average American consumer has higher

(41:52):
taxes on almost every consumable item, including food. That's what
a sales tax is, that's what a tariff is.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Your thoughts, Harry, Well, well, well, Christopher, you've got some
insights here. Of course, I know we don't agree. And
by the way, Trump has always filled his operations way
before he was a president, uh with differing opinions and
differing people. He likes to hear all sides, and sometimes
that creates conflict, but you know that's it's unavoidable. But

(42:23):
out of it he brings some remarkable success, as we
know from his past, and that's what's happening right now.
They're they're they're working things out. They're going to have
different opinions. I really don't agree with the fact that
he's trying to make America fortress.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
That's just not true, Christopher.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
I mean, he's an international guy who's got international businesses
all over the place. He does not want a fortress
of America. That's that's an extreme exaggeration about what's really
going on with the Trump administration right now.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
He's a negotiator, and so he when he goes into
a situation, he has many options prepared. He doesn't is
going blind or going thing. I just have to do
it only this one way. He's very flexible and he
can change on a dime if he sees the advantage
it gives us. So that's how he's playing this thing.
And guess what, folks, it's working just like you said

(43:14):
it would. It's already working. I'm amazed at how fast
this whole thing is going. The nations of this world
are running to American.

Speaker 5 (43:21):
I please please make it. We'll make it.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Even All he's fighting for is fair trade, even steven.
You know he charged us ten percent, We charge you
to ten percent. That's all he's trying to do. And
that's fair and that does work. They need us a
whole lot more than we need them, and they know it.
That's why they're running to the White House right now.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
Uh, this is working.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
It's amazing what I'm saying happen right now and it's
proving all the naysayers dead wrong, and the Democratic Party
go is going crazy over it because it looks like
it's going to really work and bring such prosperity.

Speaker 5 (43:56):
To this country.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
You know, that's the worst Nightmaremocrats could ever have, is
that Trump would be very successful.

Speaker 5 (44:02):
They don't care about us.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
They would rather see us go down in the dirt
if if if while the Trump was the president, just
so because they hate him so much. They do not
care about you out there, folks. You need to know
that they care about their own self aggrandizement and their
own glory.

Speaker 5 (44:17):
And that's what this is.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
That's what all their objections are. It's coming from that
kill Trump, destroyed Trump, stopped Trump. They did literally try
to kill them, as we all know. Anyway, this is
going to be an ongoing thing with us. And remember,
chrispher you and I are knockheads on this show, but
plenty of times that doesn't mean we don't know what
we're doing, or the show's crashing or something. The sky's

(44:40):
falling like the Democrats are trying to say right now,
So folks, stay tuned, because this is going to get
even more exciting over the over the next few weeks.
First that many people are saying that he's going to
have the greatest presidency ever for the first hundred days
that you know, they measure presidents by the first hundred days,
and they say his this one hundred day period it's
going to end in about a month month, is going

(45:01):
to be dynamic, and it's going to portends really great
things for this country because guess what, folks, We're making
America great again.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
Amen.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Amen, All right, well, it's time for us to take
another break and we will be right back, folks.

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our chaplain by patriotic. Moment we just take a brief
moment to remind you of the biblical foundations of our,
country Our Judeo christian, jurisprudence and today we're going to
talk about none other Then alexis To, tokville who goes
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in the history of. World he wrote a great book
Called democracy In. America after The marquis de La fayette
had come he he came here about ten years later
and he traveled all Over america because he came seeking
the secret Of. America it made Him america. Great he
couldn't understand. It it, just you, know he'd seen the,
terrible dismal failure of The French, revolution the howers of.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
It how Did america succeed so?

Speaker 2 (48:09):
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said the secret Of. America he, SAID i arrived and
saw the great harbors filled with commerce and transportation Of,
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Speaker 4 (48:26):
It.

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PLANS i studied their. AGRICULTURE i went to their vaunted educational,
institutions but the secret was still hid from, me he,
said read their Matchless, constitution and visited their halls Of,

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congress but the secret was still. Hidden it was not
UNTIL i went into their churches and saw their pulpits
aflame with a gospel of, righteousness THAT i discovered the
true secret Of. America america is great Because america is
good and. Righteous but If america ever quits being good and,
Righteous america quits being, great, FOLKS i posit to. You

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have we reached that state? Yet are we there where
we're no longer really a righteous? Nation meaning the, people the.
Churches it's a close call right, now.

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Folks you, know if we.

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Really want to Make america great, again we got to do.
It Made america great in the. Beginning you know what that,
Was it Was. God because we Had god in the
middle Of, america we became, great. Folks we need to
do it. Again we need to do it. AGAIN i
want to Make america great, again but we got to
do it the right. Way right, now we're doing great,
things and we can keep doing great, things and it's
going to be. Good but in the end it's going
to fail Because god's not in the middle of. It

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we got to Put god in the middle of all.

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This and it's got to be we the, people not the.

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POLITICIANS i, mean hopefully they'll get. Involved it's got to
be the churches and we the people that will do.
It it's on our, shoulders. Folks SO i can tell
you about some more, shoulders the shoulders that bore the
sins of the. World And i'm talking about The Lord Jesus.
Christ is it, is and this is how we can
become a righteous people by understanding this.

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Message it's called The.

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Gospel the scripture, says the gospel is the power Of
god into, salvation and the scripture tells us what it.

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Is, First queen is.

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Fifteen FOR i declare to you the gospel That jesus
died for all of us sins according to the, scripture
that he was, buried and that he rose from the.
Dead according to the, scripture, folks he died for all.
Sins that means from the day you're, born in the
day you, die you tiniest ther greatest. Sins they all
fell On jesus and he washed him away with his.
Blood he was literally The bible has even turned into
your sin so you could be given his. Righteousness that's, powerful,

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Folks but that was just part of the. Job he
defeated sin when he did. That but the second problem
we had was our our death. Problem he had to
take care of, that and he did that when he
rose in the dead For winfrey to win for you
and me and all of, us the free gift of,
resurrection ever lasting life to whoserver. Believeth that's the, key.
Folks god did it, all you. Know but there's one

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thing left for us to, do and that's just trust.
Him we have to trust him with all our. Heart
that means we can't trust anything. Else and the only
way we do that is when we. Repent when we,
repent it means we quit trust in. Ourselves what we can,
do our good works that whatever our, money our charm,
our work in the, church whatever it. Is there's so
many things we could be. Doing and we, say, oh
it's going to Help god out. Us, no he doesn't

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need your. Help he doesn't want you to. Help he
wants your childlike. Faith jesus, said unless you come as
a little, child you shall have no, wives enter in
and suffer the little children, company for such is a
kingdom Of. God if you've never done this, before if
you've never put a child like faith faith alone In christ,
alone because you believe you can't save, yourself that's. Repentance
if you've never done that, before do it. Now don't

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wait till it's too. Late and like the scripture, says
now today is a day of. Salvation believe right now
with all your heart That jesus really did die for
all your sins was buried and rose from the dead
to win for you his precious free gift of, resurrection
ever lasting, life and you're going to. Heaven and, folks
now you're prepared to be the kind of Godly american
that could really make a difference so we can Make

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america great. Again all, right, Folks, well now it's time
to go into our chaplain testimony. Time we just take
a brief moment to tell you the history of a
great man a great woman in church. History and Today
i'm picking one of my, favorites The Sadhu Sundar, singh
who was An. Indian he was A, Sikh he Hated,

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christianity he Cursed, jesus he tore up The. Bible but you,
know one Day jesus appeared to him at the foot
of his bed and there's big old and he was a,
big tall, fella big handsome fellow from a very wealthy,
family fells's knees and Found. Christ he went out to
be one of the greatest preachers and evangelists of his.
Time he traveled all around the, world but mainly In,
india and he many times disappeared for, many many long.

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Periods nobody knew where he was he'd go opening The
himalays who's known As apostle of The Bleeding feet because
he usually ran around barefooted and he had a huge
impact on. It he started moving there called the bach
sing they're kind of like an invisible, church an invisible
group of ministers that that cruise through the streets in

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the in the valleys and the mountains and the countryside
in the cities Of, india acting like. Gurus but they
preached the gospel and they're there to. STAY i met
one WHEN i was. There it's an amazing. Experience, well,
folks it's not time for us to, go as we
close with them On Saint martin singing A creole goodbye
And god bless all out.

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There they call you cREL. Goodbye they think we just
wasted the, time all Three, sibyl there's time for A creo.

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Goodbye