April 23, 2025 • 81 mins
Travis Perry enters the portal; (12:00) baseball Cats crush U of L; (19:00) Aaron Gershon of the Cats' Pause; (39:00) Unforgettable guard Sean Woods now the new head coach at Scott County HS; (59:00) West End Bureau Chief Gary Moore and sometimes you have to explain yourself - loudly...
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, oh, guess what day it is?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Guess what day it is?
Speaker 1 (00:05):
H anybody, It's hump Day.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Yes, it is hump Day.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
Dick Gabriel with you on a Wednesday edition of The
Big Blue Insider. Thank you so much for joining us.
And as we reach the midweek, there's all kinds of
stuff to talk about, because of course, the portal never
never fails.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
It always gives us something to talk about, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
And last night, late last night at the portal closed
at midnight, and last night or sometime late yesterday, Travis
Perry puts his name in the portal. Doesn't necessarily mean
he's leaving, but for all practical purposes, if he wants
to play, you know, appreciable minutes this coming year, then
he'll find somewhere else to play. So we got that
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to talk about. The Wildcats lose one in terms of
football to Vanderbilt.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
We'll talk about that as well.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Arkansas apparently is losing a quarterback or maybe not.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
They're gonna fight it.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
That story popped up yesterday as well, and Lane Kiffin
takes a cheap shot at Carson Beck. Lots and lots
of portal news, which kind of shoves the Kentucky baseball
win over Louisville last night.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
To our second segment.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
It was a really, really unexpected kind of game after
those two teams played and again it was bitterly cold.
Two weeks ago over in Louisville played a heck of
a ball game. It went ten innings and Louisville won
at four to three. Kentucky scored a run on the
top of the ten, Louisville put up two and came
away with the walk off win. Well, last night, Kentucky
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jumped on the Cardinals early and just kept piling up runs.
I got to tell you, with all due respect because
Dan McDonald knows what he's doing the head coach at Louisville,
especially when it comes to pitching, but that was the
worst pitching I've ever seen from a Louisville ball club
in that game.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
And I've seen just about all of them through the years.
They and we knew going in.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
We were told by somebody who covered the team that man,
these kids can hit, they can score runs, but they've
got some real issues when it comes to pitching. They're
still in the running in the ACC, but they've got problems,
especially midweek. So Kentucky took full advantage. We'll talk about
that coming up. We'll also talk about that with Aaron
Gershan of the Cat's Pauls, who was covering the game
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last night. But we need to talk about, of course,
Travis Perry jumping into the portal. We'll talk with Aaron
about that. Perry, it's a bit of a surprise because
by all accounts he was coming back. Most of us
thought he was coming back, and he had not indicated
any interest in entering the portal. In fact, people talk
to him right after the NCA tournament was over, but
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he jumped in just ahead of Tuesday's deadline eleven fifty
eleven fifty nine pm last night. Second scholarship player to
hit the portal, as you know, kerk Crisa was the other,
and then the two walk Ons, Grant Derbyshire and Walker
Horn also in the portal. So now Kentucky with twelve
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Skalie players for next year. Waiting to hear from Otega Olway,
who's going through the NBA draft process, he'll make his decision.
He has to by June fifteenth in order to withdraw
in order to maintain his eligibility. Perry played in thirty
one game, started four as a freshman. Of course, Lamont
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Butler's injury gave him more opportunity to play. Averaged two
point seven points, only hit thirty one point three percent
from the floor thirty two percent from three point range.
Had his best games, ironically enough, in losses to Alabama.
He scored twelve points at four steals in a loss
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at Alabama February twenty second, played really well, and then
in the loss to the Crimson Tide in the SEC Tournament,
the blowout, he scored eleven points. Perry hit at least
one triple in thirteen of UK's final twenty one games.
But of course Mark Pope and staff bring in Jalon Lowe,
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the kid from Pittsburgh. Denzel Aberdeen comes in. Maybe that
was the last straw. Who knows you knew Jasper Johnson
was coming. He's a combo guard. Travis Perry is considered
a point guard, and that's primarily what he played for Kentucky.
I never really thought of him as a point guard
simply because and I know that's the position he played
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and that was his assignment for Kentucky. But watching him
in the sweet sixteen, of course as the guy who
broke King Kelly Coleman's record. He was the facilitator as
well as the scorer for Lion County.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
He handled the ball a lot and he looked to.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Get his teammates involved, but they needed him to score
and he did. That's why he was the most viable
player in the Sweet sixteen, leading the Lions to their
first and only state champion and ship a couple of
years back, five thy four hundred and eighty one points.
Also the career leader in field goals made with nineteen
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hundred and eighteen free throws nine hundred and thirty three.
He holds the record for mad three pointers seven hundred
and twelve and steals at six hundred and fifty and
coming out two four seven Sports rated him the number
eighty eight overall prospect in the country in the twenty
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twenty four class and the number seven point guard. But again,
I never really thought of him as a point guard,
although given his size, that's essentially what he probably needed
to play in college, and he wasn't going to be
needed to score that much for Kentucky. Now where's he
gonna end up? Well, who else recruited him? Western Kentucky,
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Ole Miss Cincinnati. You know, can he play in those
places depends on who they have, who's coming through the
portal to them.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Who's leaving through the portal. So kind of a surprise
to the Big Moon Nation.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
I think people are a little disappointed, but surprised only
by the timing. If you looked at the roster, you
had to wonder when and if this kid's ever going
to get a chance to play. That's just the nature
of the portal right now. So best of luck to
Travis Perry. Wildcat football program missed out Jalen Sloan, who
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visited UK, chose Vanderbilt. He's a Southeast Missouri defensive lineman
and it, from what I understand, look good for the
Wildcats until the lake going.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And he's going to Vandy.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
He tweeted an image of himself in Vandy Cullers and
all I said is committed six two, two eighty eight
three star recruits from a Georgia played thirteen games over
the last couple of years with Southeast Missouri and didn't
have great numbers, but he is the second lineman to
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choose Vanderbilt. Vandy's getting done in the portal. Apparently, Clinton
as a bookie or might he might pronounce it as
a week A is an old lineman from northern Arizona,
the Lumberjacks, and he announced he was going to Vandy.
That was not a kid that Kentucky was looking at,
but Jalen Sloan was somebody the Wildcats coveted, but instead
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going to Vanderbilt. Hey, you win some into portal and
you lose some. To me, the biggest portal story today,
well there's two of them. Number one, Lane Kiffin sniping
at Carson Beck.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I mean it's Lane being Lane, right.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Carson Beck transfers to Miami, hurt his arm in the
championship game and has to go and get his arm repaired.
He rehabs, and then he jumps into portal and signs
with Miami after his season ended in the SEC title game.
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But apparently he has rehabilitated well enough for him to
be handed an NIL deal worth more than four million.
Lane Kiffin was on a podcast called The Pivot with
some former NFL players Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder, and Fred Taylor,
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and one of the hosts brought up the fact that
college kids are making an insane amount of money.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Right now compared to what the NFL guys make.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
So, like you bring up the comparison to what they're doing,
they're really getting NFL much. It's crazy, coach that you
bring up the NFL structure with college now, because they're
in the contract, they're making money. They're making millions a dollar.
I think down in Miami, what's a Carson Beck four
point three four points value union? He I think my
biggest year was six. He's a college kid. So, like
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you bring up the comparison to what they're doing, they're
really getting NFL money.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Mimi even four point three million dollars, that's what the
evaluation says. Hey, did they watch this game against Oh,
don't have to be great, Jane trying.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Not to go.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
That's Lane Kiffin appearing on the podcast The Pivot, and
you could probably maybe hear him in the background saying, oh,
you set me up or something like that.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
But he was still laughing about it.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
To his point, Beck did not play well against Ole Miss.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Which beat Georgia last year.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Beck was twenty for thirty one for one hundred and
eighty six yards and one interception. Now, Carson Beck played
well in the second half against Kentucky, but it was
interesting how Kentucky stayed close to the Bulldogs until halftime,
when it was apparent that the Georgia brain trust got
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together her and said, look, we need Carson Beck to
win this game for us. And he ended up having
a really good second half and the Bulldogs pulled away.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
But for the.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Season, Beck threw for more than thirty four or nearly
thirty five hundred yards, twenty eight touchdowns, twelve picks, sixty
four point seven percent pass completion rate. But evidently Lane
Kiffin isn't all that impressed with him. He did say,
I don't get mad at the kids. It's not their fault.
The system is they can go get it. It's free
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market with no cap and in some areas unlimited boosters.
Apparently Beck's deal is only second to arch Manning's in value.
Apparently arch Manning, who is now I guess the starting
quarterback of Texas six point six million. The other story
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is what's happening at Arkans. The Razorbacks apparently lose a quarterback,
Madden Iamaieva, the brother of Nico. He is in the
portal and heading apparently for Southern cal I'm sorry for
Ucla to play with his brother, but Hunter Yurachek, the
guy the ad who hired John Calipari, has stepped in and,
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as one reporter put it, rattled his saber. He has said,
I've spoken with the leadership at Arkansas EDGE that's a
collective at Arkansas, and expressed my support in their pursuit
to enforce their rights under any agreement violated by our
student athletes. Moving forward, we appreciate EDGE his investment in
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our student athletes and acknowledge the enforcement of these agreements
is vital in our new world of college athletics. In
other words, you can't take the money and run, or
at least if you do, there are going to be
consequences because it says here a lot of kids have
ignored buyout language.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
And now this may be tested legally. I won't say
in court, but legally.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
So these are going to be really interesting times when
it comes to nil contracts.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
How legal are they? Not?
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Long after Nico transferred to UCLA, Madden told the coaches
he's homesick, wants to go back to southern California.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
But the rub is.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
He never played a game for the Razorbacks. He had
originally committed to UCLA flipped to Arkansas agreed to a
one year deal with Arkansas Edge, and now he wants
to go to UCLA, which originally, as we said, had
signed him, or at least he committed to UCLA.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
This is going to be interesting, all right.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
When we come back with talk Kentucky baseball a little
bit later on, Aaron Gershon of the cats Balls will
chat with us, as will Shawn was the unforgettable Guard
and our Weston Bureau chief Gary Moore here on six
thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big Blue Cider. Coming
up at the bottom of the hour. Aaron Gershan of
the cats Balls. We'll talk about the Travis Perry decision
to end of the portal and some doings with UK
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football as it relates.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
To the portal.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Plus he covered Kentucky baseball last night. Our number two
Weston Bureau chief, Gary Moore, will join us.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Also Sean Woods.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
We talked to Sean every Wednesday, but this will be
our first conversation since he was named the head basketball
coach at Scott County High School. So Scott County, which
went six and twenty one last year, making the change,
and we're going to see if Seawn can work kind
of the same magic that he worked at Mississippi Valley State,
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a team that he coached to a conference and conference
tournament championship into the NCAA Tournament. When Shawn began to
really make a name for himself, you might recall he
was an morehead state. Things were going well and then
there was some sort of misunderstanding with one of his
players who made an accusation about Sean. Long story short,
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it was a big misunderstanding, and as it was explained
to me, this was a young man who was prone
to get down on himself, and after a mistake prior
to halftime, he was hanging his head in the locker
room and Sean kind of popped him on the shoulder
and said, hey, man, get your head up, We're good.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
And later on the.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Kids said to his father, hey, the coach hit me,
and the dad made a huge deal out of it,
and then the young man wanted to recant and just
make it all go away, but it was too late.
By then the school had made a bigger deal out
of it. Frankly, as I understand it.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Then it should have. So since then, Shawn's been looking
for a new gig.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
He's been doing this and that, but wanted to get
back into coaching and was coaching right along. When he
was on TV with Glacott dot Com the teams in
the eleven region and had a chance to chat with
him about high school basketball leading up to the Sweet sixteen,
and at one point he indicated that he was maybe
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interested in coaching at the high school level because he
got excited about it again. So we'll talk to him
about all of that coming up in our number two
baseball Wildcats last night got their revenge and then some.
They lost to Louisville four to three and ten innings
two weeks ago. Last night it was seventeen to five.
The big blow that opened the gates. Patrick Herrera crushed the.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Ball to center field.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
And I had just been talking to Doug Flynn, my
broadcast partner on SEC plus, about the sun, and Doug
always brings that up as a Gold Glove winner, how
difficult the sun can be both on hitters and defenders.
And we could see with the shadows covering the infield,
outfielders were still shading their eyes from the sun that
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was right behind the stadium and the Louisville the centerfielder
simply lost the ball in the sun never had a chance,
and that was a screamer that Herrera hit and it
rolled all the way to the wall. It bases loaded,
cleared the bases. Herrera ends up with a triple. He
later had a home run that was an unbelievable massive
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shot that was about six to ten feet past to
the right of the fair file pole. So he had
a huge game. And we talked to Patrick after the
game on SEC Plus.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
And when you squared up the ball they went for
a triple, you knew you had crushed it, right.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, Well, I hit it and I was like, dang,
I think I got all that. I don't know why
he's running in and you know at our field the
sun is right. Yeah, filled his eyes so kind of
lucked out, hit it hard, couldn't ask for anything more,
and then got by him. So he I was happy
with that swing and happy I could get the rbs
right there.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
And you had to be happy with the swing on
the home run. Tell us about that.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, that one a little more so, probably than the triple.
I don't mind that one at all. But yeah, got
a pitch in a good count and uh just got
my swing off. I told myself before I swung like if.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I miss miss early.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
So that was that was a good swing, Patrick, over
the last week or so. You gotta like where your
team is right now. You guys are playing good ball.
The pitching has really come around, and every opportunity you
get to knock in some runs, you guys have been
stepping up getting some big hits.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, for sure, We've started a new thing where we
just want to hop on the quab train. You know,
we don't need a bunch of home runs or doubles.
We just want to get a bunch of quabs one
after another. So we found a way to do that
this past weekend tonight. So yeah, it's been good for us.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
All right.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
You eased up there at first base on that one
hit you okay.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, I'll be good, ready to go for the weekend.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, we figured that, We figured that, all right.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
You played well in Northwestern You have been an important
part of Kentucky baseball. What's it like for you now
as a leader for this team. You got a lot
of new faces this year, helping the young.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Guys come along.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, for sure. You know I've I've lucked out over
the years. I've had guys like writer Childs who I
lived with.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
He's now one of our coaches.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Grant Smith, Amelian Pedre, Mitch Dailey just like showing me
how you're supposed to go about your business. So I've
just learned from them and use that this year, and
I'm just really blessed to be in the position i
am this year.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
For Hey, you got to be really proud though, buddy,
I'll tell you what you paid your dues. You worked
at it, you kept getting yourself better, and now it's
paying off.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, for sure, I'm glad the hard work's paying office here.
And you know, we've been playing well, so we just
got to keep it up.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
That's Patrick Herrera and his last year with the program.
He transferred in from Northwestern. He was all Big ten,
but was a utility player last year infield or outfielder
for the team that went to Omar. He locked down
the third base job and except for some games where
he was the DH because he.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Was a little bit injured. He hit an arm injury.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
He's back now excellent defender and had a great night
against Louisville last night. So the Wildcats heading into the
weekend with a series against the South Carolina game Cocks
who have been struggling this year. Big opportunity for the
Wildcats to rack up some more wins and get themselves
in a position for postseason, to take the decision making
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away as much as they can from the committee members,
make sure they're locked in and rack up as many
victories now as they can. The schedule lets up just
slightly the Cats with a home series this weekend against
South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
You'll hear all those games right here, and you'll see
him on SEC Plus.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Up next, Aaron gershan of the Catch Balls here on
six point thirty WLAP Welcome back to.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
The Big Blue Insider.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Joining us now as he does every week, is Aaron
Gershaan of the Catch Bass.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
We try to give Aaron some time off.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
He joins us on the State Wide show on Monday
through the seasons. But Aaron, there's too much going on man, Baseball, football, basketball.
Let us start with Travis Perry's announcement. Should we be
surprised by that, because by all accounts he was coming back.
Does this represent a change of mind for him?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Or did we just assume too much?
Speaker 9 (20:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Probably, It's probably a combination of bolts. Honestly, I mean
the fact that came down to the eleventh hour quite literally,
with a portal closing at midnight last night. You're seeing
some you know, announcements today. That's just the paperwork being
filed and trickling in. But you know, clearly he put
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as much thought as he possibly could into this decision.
And you know, I don't think we as the media
read too much into it because he was the only
guy after the Loston Tennessee that was asked if he
was coming back in point blank answered with yes. So
I mean, it's hard to not take a kid at
his word. But when you see what Kentucky did in
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the transfer portal right this offseason, kind of loading up
at his position and clearly recruiting over him, and you
know they were at thirteen scholarship players, it just it
just made sense for Travis, I think. And there just
wasn't the playing spot. I think Mark Polpe like to
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play eleven guys. Probably the two odd men out with
the thirteen they originally had would have been I would
say Malachi right now and Travis Perry. So, uh, it's
a frustrating thing. I'm sure for Travis this is probably
oh I know for a fact, this is Rome School. Yeah,
it made sense.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Wait a minute, now, you think that did. Malachi won't
get much run this coming.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
Season, not as a true freshman. I just don't think.
So you have Jaq Clayton, you are, you have Jay
and Clayton's Jake Hughes his nickname. If he's that healthy.
You know, maybe early on in the season you see
Maliki in some of those non conference games, but he's
going to demand a lot of playing time, probably gonna
be your starting center. And then they they learned Brandon
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Garrison that so I think if they were gonna if
they were planning on playing MALICEI heavy minutes, I don't
know if you go all out to lear Brandon Garrison back, well.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
You know Moreno is like I'm sure, and I've seen
him play a lot a lot of bigs.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
It just takes longer for them to develop at the
college level. He is a much better player now than
he was last year when he led great crossing to
this through the sweet sixteen.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
So, but getting back to Travis Perry, you know, I'm
sure a lot of schools will love to have a
kid who can shoot like that.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I was saying earlier in the show.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Aaron that when I saw him in high school, he
did everything, brought the ball up the floor, facilitated and scored.
And I know he played point guard at Kentucky. He's
listed as a point guard. I just think of him
more as a two, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
Yeah, I definitely see him as a two as well.
And I just think that last year he had to
play the one at Sea. They were up against it,
and they definitely played him at a position. The problem is, yes,
he's a two, but he's also only six to one
and eighty pounds, right, so in the SEC with the
way it was last year, really hard to cut him
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at the two. Then they had to play him at
the one at a necessity. I'm sure even before his
decision to transfer, he'd been working on adding some weight,
but at this point maybe he could grow. He's only eighteen,
but you know, you're only six to one and and
as a physical as a league, it's really tough. So
but this was also I'm just throwing this out there.
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I know, SOORC or scoop on this, but we're in
a time right where crazy things happen. Who's to say
Travis doesn't go put on some good weight play really
well somewhere else and maybe it's at Western I don't know,
and comes back here one day. That is literally kind
of how how the way the world is right now.
And I just think probably at the end of the day,
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this is the best objectively for him, I think it's
the best decision if he is going to go transfer
where he can get somewhere to play. And for Kentucky,
you know, not to nothing against Travis, but it's just
it's not a big deal at all because they have
so much depth. They had already eleven or twelve guys
whim to be playing over him. It opens up another scholarship.
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Maybe they had another piece they feel can help. It's
kind of loaded. Maybe they go and get you know,
there's the freshman Brandon Hawthorne or incoming freshman who is
kind of a mid to high four star late bloomer
out of West Virginia, z committed when they had the
coaching change there. Maybe they maybe they pursued, they had
to visit with him. Maybe they kick the tires and
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go even heavier on him. It opens up another spot
and another chance to be creative from our poping company.
So I think at the end of the At the
end of the day, it's going to be a win
win for everyone.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
You know, they did such a great job. We've talked
about that.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Everybody has putting this team together that that played this
past year, and they were guys who just had so
much appreciation for being at Kentucky. Kobe Braham might have
been the best example of a guy was told early on,
you know, you're not good enough to play at Kentucky,
and I was always in the back of his mind,
and then by the time he got here, he was
so appreciative. Andrew Carr sim a lot of these guys.
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You gotta wonder, now, Aaron, the cynic in me wonders
are they going to be able to keep finding guys
like that in this day and age of big bucks
in the portal. I need playing time now, you know. Hey,
you know, hey, come be a part of Kentucky basketball.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah, what's it worse to me that kind of stuff?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (25:18):
Yeah? I completely agree. It's really hard. There's some really
good players that they pursued very hard out of the
transfer portal and they went other directions. Kentucky got outdid
you know, talking about Donovan Dent to point Grup from Mexico,
and then Lamar Wilkerson was kind of the big one.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
About a week ago today, right where he chooses Indiana,
goes on the field of sixty eight because he doesn't
want to go to Kentucky and just be another guy.
And what he meant by that is Kentucky had a
full roster at that point, Indiana had four players. He
can go to Indiana, get all the shots he wants
and get paid, you know, the higher amount. So they're
simply gonna be guys with those trains of thought. But
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I do still think there's a place for God, you know,
with Andrew car Kobe Brea, the Kentucky kids and Trenton
Travis's state of mind as well. And you just look
at some two of the guys they added through the
portal this year, Jade and Quaintance, and yeah, he's getting
paid handsomely, you know, top center in the transfer portal
and a guy who's probably gonna be a first round
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pick in next year's NBA draft. But he's a guy
that was committed to Kentucky out of high school. He
was a guy to play for John cal Ferry. From
everything I had heard around this time last year he
was very interested in keeping his commitment, and it was
more so Mark Pope and the staff wanting to just
kind of start fresh and kind of remove remove themselves
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from the Caliperry era, get a fresh start going. And
now that he gets back in the portal, like, he's
getting recruited heavily by Auburn who's coming off a trip
to the Final four, and you know, those are kind
of the two schools zooking it out.
Speaker 9 (26:56):
And I heard.
Speaker 7 (26:58):
The money was pretty much the same, and he picked
Kentucky because he loved it here when he first committed
and he's always wanted to play here, so you know
that still exists. And then with Denzel Aberdeen the transfer
from Florida, Jacob Poulichek, who wrote a great story about
it in an interview with his dad, where basically Denzel
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didn't want to necessarily leave Florida, but Kentucky was his
green school growing up, and when the opportunity came up,
he couldn't pass it down. So there is still some
of that out there, but definitely it's definitely when there's
crazy dollars being torn around and playing time is you know,
there's only so many spots on so many teams. You know,
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it's harder to find those kids, but they're still out there.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Speaking of the Portal, Boogie Flan leaving Arkansas for the
Portal but also intends to remain in the NBA draft
after that June fifteenth deadline, So I mean, why in
the world even bothered to enter the portal, but period
I did?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Did he expect him to be a first rounder?
Speaker 9 (28:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (28:04):
I mean, look, it is interesting though, I think it
probably is just an insurance policy got from He doesn't
get the feedback that he was expecting or what cal
Perry's clearly hinting out expecting there. I mean, he did
miss almost the whole SEC slate with a wrist injury.
He came back clearly wasn't quite one hundred percent during
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the NCAA tournament, So I don't know how scouts are
viewing him. I don't know what his medicals are showing.
And even when he played, I mean he played pretty well.
It wasn't like, uh, he was lighting it up and
looked like a surefire lottery are Yet I think he
has that ceiling. So with that, Arkansas's current roster construction.
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They have various sakhoff of Miss Donald's all American point
guards coming in. DJ Wagner's coming back for his junior year. Uh,
there's not really a spot for Boogie Flann there at all.
So if your boogie flanned, if you do end up
having to go back to college, makes sense to open
up your options because Arkansas has moved on, and as
they should have, they had to, They had to prepare
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for that. All all indications were this time last year
Boogie was going to be a one and done lottery pick,
and you know, he stills a chance to be.
Speaker 9 (29:14):
A first rounder entered the draft, so uh.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
You know, you got to keep the keep the options open.
And really that's what you're going to see, or that's
what you see with a lot of these guys you
know who have their names in the NBA Draft. I
mean there was a kid from UiB that Yachtall Lendenberg
that Kentucky went at pretty hard and then kind of
pulled off of uh.
Speaker 9 (29:33):
That ended up in Michigan.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
I mean, he's going to make uh Dusty May and
that's statsweat up until that May twenty eighth deadline. Jaron
Pierre and Jacksonville State, and you know, Kentucky was kind
of in the same boat waiting on Jackson Robinson this
time last year. So you know, we'll see what Boogy
ends up doing. But it makes sense open your options.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Well and more.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
With Aaron gershan of the cash Balls, he after a
break here on six thirty w l a F welcome back.
We're talking and Aaron Gershawan he covers the Cats for
the Cat's Boss football, baseball, basketball, he does it all.
We were talking about the portal with regard to basketball
the football Cats.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
One got away.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Jalen Stone, who was a d lineman at Southeast Missouri
State at the FCS Level one double A, decided at
the last minute to go to Vanderbilt and from from
everything I'd heard, Kentucky thought they were in pretty good
shape with him.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Six two eighty eight was.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
A three star coming out of high school, but has
obviously improved and now he's going to be a common
or how surprised should we be about this.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
In the portal era? Nothing surprisingly, It takes one good
offer and that you could not be on the radar
to landing a commitment. Yeah, that's kind of what seems
to have happened here with Stone. I know he had
an Oklahoma visit earlier this week and he got through
it without committing. And he's supposed to be at Kentucky
Friday thor Sunday, So Kentucky probably felt pretty good internally
that he got out of Norman without you know, choosing them.
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But you know, Vandy step stuff and gets their guys.
So that's just that's the nature of the Beast nowadays.
Not too surprising, And to be honest with you, I
was already not with him in particular. And I know
you can never have enough D line depth, but you know,
Kentucky as things currently, Sam will only have two or
three more.
Speaker 9 (31:17):
Spots scholarship wise available.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
I feel like that's a position they're better off. And
then maybe inside linebacker where they really really need to
get somebody. I don't know if they're going to, but man,
are they sinning there or even quarterback. I mean, if
you have an injury there, you're talking about getting really
sinned inexperience. So you know, maybe it's a blessing in
disguise where you can go and use that scholarship for
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something maybe of greater need. But yes, you know they've
clearly had a visit set up and probably bummed to
lose him through to an SEC rival there.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yeah, that's the other thing.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Not only do they lose him, but they got to
play against him, right And people know Vandy beat Kentucky
last year, and don't forget Vandy finished the year by
winning a bowl game for the first time in change years.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
And they've won two it a three against Kentucky going
back to twenty two. So yes, unfortunately for Kentucky, the
momentum is shifted in that series. And you know that
was you know, the rous stone. But also you know
for Kentucky, Vanderbilt recruiting had to head Shaziah Pee that
was down to Vandy in Kentucky it sounded like and
Kentucky very badly needed that left tackle. So yeah, it
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is what it is that's important to give this take
a type deal.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Yeah, I'm want to jump back to basketball for just
a minute. What is Denzel Aberdeen give Mark Pope? Because
I thought that was a really interesting movie. Goes from
a national championship team to within the conference to basically
an arch rival.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
Yeah, it's fascinating how that all happened. But I think
he just gives them one. He sits just such a
position of need, which or if they have a second
like experience ball handler, not that you know Tom Chandler
is the capable of handling the ball. Shore Shaff Johnson
capable of handling the ball. Sure, but you know those
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guys Chandler doesn't as to do it all that much.
Last year, Jasper is going to be a true freshman.
You know, you had to add another one to help
Jalen Lowe out there.
Speaker 9 (33:20):
And you know Aberdeen.
Speaker 7 (33:21):
Does that, and you know he could play off the ball,
and he's really really good in catch and shoot situation.
He's not a great shooter off the drive or off
the dribble, but he's great in catch and shoot situation.
So he just gives you a versatile weapon in that backcourt,
and he gives you a winner. I mean, he won
a high school state championship in the seven A level
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down in Florida as a prep kid out of Orlando. Obviously,
just won the NCAA Tournament at Florida, won the SCC
tournament at Florida. It's helped Florida get to the He
had his breakout game actually was as a sophomore last
season when Florida was a sixth seed in the SEC tournament.
They gets to the semifinals and he dropped twenty seemingly
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out of nowhere on Texas A and M to get
pored in the title game there. So you know, he's
a guy who has tons of tons and tons of
postseason experience and has excelled in those moments. And I
guess another guy is going to be fearless. You know,
great length at six to five in the backboard so
fits everything. Kentucky was looking for experience, proven winner, good
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shooter and got some really good length A few.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Minutes left with Aaron Gershan as a cast balls. Let
me shift to the baseball. You covered last night's Louisville game.
None of us expected that kind of outcome given the
way these teams played two weeks ago, but that was
in the freezing cold.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
This was a perfect night for baseball.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
But you've been able to cover more baseball since basketball ended,
just in time to watch this Kentucky team eraon. It
looks like really build confidence and start to play its best.
Speaker 7 (34:50):
Yeah, they're they're fun. They're looking like an NCAA tournament team. Now.
I don't think if any of us could have said
that for sure, just it's so frustrating. It that jumps
off the page is they have led in seventeen of
eighteen SBC games and the one lost that in the
one game they lost trailed start to finish was Texas,
the third game of the series, and they only lost
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that game by our run. So they're losing these close games,
they're blowing leads and it's all sorts of frustration. And
then you know, you go down to Tennessee, you lose
game one, okay, and Nick McKay shoves in game two
and they you know, the offense is able to get
some in shuring frons you win that game. And really
same thing in game three where Ben Cleever really shuts
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down Tennessee. I think he had maybe had give up
a two run homer and that was it. And then
Kentucky has insurance late. And then yesterday, every time Louisville
kind of made a run, I think they scored three
in the fifth and cut it down to five, Kentucky
just kept tacking on insurance runs. And they're they're finding
ways to win games now where they felt like they
were finding ways to lose games where the offense would
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kind of go cold in the later innings and the
bullten would really struggle to hold up in the last
three games. You know, take not the bullpen being obviously
you know, shut games down to Tennessee. But last night
the story was the offense just a relentless attack and
putting a ton of insurance funds on the board, to
the point that Louisville shifted their first basement onto the
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mound and kind of waves the right white flag there.
Speaker 9 (36:19):
So yeah, it was a.
Speaker 7 (36:20):
Really good night. And this program is tending in the
right direction at the right time. I mean, I think
they were in the mid forties and the RPI before
they went down in Knoxville and that seven yeah, yeah,
thirty twenty seven. Yeah, I saw twenty seven right after
the game. So yeah, so they're you know, they're probably
on pace to be a two seed in the regional
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and you know, just how big of a deal would
it be to make the tournament this year? Was you know,
all they lost in last year's roster, Like, the program
has never been to the NCA Tournament three years in
a row, and if they're able to do that this
year with everything they lost and to be honest to
deficiencies they have. That's super impressive stuff right there.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Yeah, and again a brutally tough schedule. And and something
that Nick Minjione told us on the air last night
is these new kids, the guys who transferred in through
the portal, and there are a lot of them, are
now just starting to figure things out.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
And that's what it takes, especially at the.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
SEC level, right, no question about it, no question about it.
Speaker 9 (37:21):
It's it's the.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
Toughest league there is in college baseball by quite a margin.
And you know a lot of you can look at
where a lot of these transfers from this year's team
specifically are from, and they haven't come really close to
what they're facing.
Speaker 9 (37:36):
Now.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
You're talking about some kids in the MAC, you're talking
about kids from the Missouri Valley, like it is just
a different beast here in the SEC, and they're starting
to get the hang of it. And the starting pitching.
You know, the big thing that Kentucky has that even
some teams in the SEC don't is Mick McCain. Ben
Cleaver is a one two punch. I know, I'm not
quite sure why he does the thing where McKay doesn't
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start on Fridays. But the best things are here or there.
But those two guys are a one two. I mean
that that's a kentuckting the team. You don't want to
play in a regional just because of those two guys.
I mean, those two guys are the real deal.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Mkay, I believe was the Friday starter for a while
but began to struggle. Yeah, now he's looking more alive. Yeah,
you know, now he's looking more like the guy that
they expected.
Speaker 7 (38:20):
Hey, yeah, do what you got to do to get
him comfortable. But yeah, I mean even I was. I
looked at Tony Vtello's transcript and he, you know, he
said the same thing that you know, those two guys
in Mkay and Cleaver. That's as good as a combo
in the sec.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Yeah it is right now. He is Aaron Gershawn. He
is the beat writer for The.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Cat's Pause covers football, baseball, basketball. Follow him on Twitter
or x at a Gershwan ninety nine. Thank you, Sarah,
I hope you get to slow down a little bit,
But I don't count on it.
Speaker 9 (38:47):
Don't count on it.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Up next to our number two, Sean Woods, the unforgettable
guard who is now the new head boys basketball coach
at Scott County High School along with Western.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
BUREACHIU Geary Moore. That's ahead on six thirty.
Speaker 10 (39:10):
Such tacking anything.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Welcome back to the Big Blue Sader And every Wednesday,
scheduling permitting, we chat with unforgettable guard Sean Woods is yours.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
He hangs in the rafters of rupp Uh.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
He has coached extensively at the college level, but now
we must address him as coach.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Sean Woods, the head coach at Scott County High School. Hey, congratulations, man.
Speaker 9 (41:13):
Appreciated, Dick. You know, never thought I'd be coaching high school,
but you know, I'm looking forward to this opportunity. Uh,
you know, as everyone knows, I'm a coach, you know,
and I'm passing about you know, enhancing you know, young
men through basketball and and uh, you know, uh had
some other opportunities, but I just felt like, you know,
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I can make a much bigger impact, you know, in
a situation that that's that's thirsty and has success and
and uh, you know, it's just a new saga in
my life and and and and and really looking forward
to it.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
You know, people don't know this, but when you and
I were chatting one day off the air. Uh And
as I've mentioned more than once, you've been doing a
lot of broadcasting over the past year for Glcott. You've
covered a lot of high school basketball.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
You're at the sweet sixteen. You really got about high
school basketball.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
You had a great high school career, and you told
me kind of offhand a few months ago, you know,
maybe you'd like to get involved at the high school level.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
How much did that affect you, Sean, when when you
were around that that.
Speaker 9 (42:14):
Atmosphere, Well, it rejuvenated me. Is just you know, being
around it, talking about it, analyzing it. You know, I
had to you know, do my homework and all these
teams that I was you know, commentating about, and it
got my juices backflowing. You know, it got me back
into scouting, got me back into doing you know, detail
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info and then watching high school basketball, and you know,
coaching is coaching, you know, And that's what I realized,
you know. You know, even though it's more money at
the at the at the college level, so on and
so forth, but when you have a passion for for something,
no matter what the pay is, it just it's who
you are. And that's who I am and you know,
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this is an opportunity. It's it's a very unique situation
because it's not just a public school, it's a it's
a school that really gets, you know, basketball, who has
a passion for Basketball's community that I'm very familiar with.
And you know, they're Thurston for winning. They you know,
the other school in the county won the state championship
this year, and you know, it was just a great
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it was just a perfect fit. You know, the administrators
there in Scott County are awesome. You know, they are
on board with the vision that I've had and have
and it was almost like a match made in heaven. Man.
I mean, God works in mysterious ways. And it was
just a situation that just smacked me in the face.
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It was like, hey, this is what it is. And
I didn't second guess it. You know, when the opportunity came,
I went for it and uh, you know, look look out,
we know we're here now.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Well, and yeah, it's it's it's a tough situation now
because as you said, great Crossing jumps up wins the
state championship. Scott County struggled this past year. Back in
the day Scott County. Was it in that county as
you know. And now some kids are going to Great Crossing,
some are going to Scott County. But the tradition is there,
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isn't it for Scott County.
Speaker 9 (44:16):
High Oh, no doubt about it. You know. I think
what happened was and it's just like anything else. You know,
when a talent comes in as a seven footage that's
very very rare. You know you're going to get that.
You know, Scott County got. Had they got Malachy Marino,
it'll have been still Scott County. Yeah, you know, but unfortunately,
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you know, Billy Hicks left. You know, Steve was you
know those guys, you know, middle school coach, they had
a great relationship with him. When he moved up to
the high school level, they followed. And with a great
player like that, you know, other kids are going to
follow because they want to play with a great player
like that, you know what I'm saying. So that was understandable.
Now the time is great for me because oh that's over.
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You know, man, don't hit. He's gonna be big, He's
gonna be a Kentucky. So we're starting back from scratch
square one. So uh, you know, I don't have to
worry about that, you know now. You know it's about
you know, me and Scott County starting our own legacy
again from scratch, and you know it's it's almost like
an even playing field, you know within the county.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
Yeah, well you mentioned that that it was a perfect fit.
You know, your your passion and your vision for the school.
What what is that, Sean? How did you sell them
on your brand of basketball, your brand of coaching?
Speaker 9 (45:36):
Well, they did all their homework. I'll tell you what. Man,
I Billy Parker, who's who's a great guy. Uh, you know, shoot,
if I needed a GM, he'd be the first person
that I'd hire. Uh he's a he's a county superintendent.
And also D T. Wales, who's the county a d.
I mean I opened the floodgates, you know. I gave
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them every person that knew me, who knew my career,
you know, to reach out to them and ask them
about me. And they did that. You know, they they
they you know, raised up every rock, you know everything.
They I mean, they know me better than I know
myself as far as what other people think of me.
And you know, they did their due diligence because they
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wanted to know, you know, everybody you know, you know
don't know what exactly, you know, what I was accused of,
you know, years ago at Morehead and that was a
big question mark because I haven't lived here, you know,
i'n't been around the twenty five years. The only thing
they remember about me is you know, having a great
coach career Morehead and then it ended because of something
that I was accused of. And you know, they got
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a chance to talk to the ad who was at
the school at the time at Morehead, they got a
chance to talk to all my assistants, got to talk
to people who knew who knew me and who I
worked for and with after that, and they came up with.
You know, what they came up with was nothing. And
they knew how talented I was as a coach and
the success that I've had. You know, once they got
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past that, you know that that was nothing there. You know,
now the rest is you know, you know, there's a
reason why we you know, he's available West Scott County
because if that does not happen, you know, I'm not
accused of that. Shoot, you know, I'm at NC State
or something like that. So you know, God has a
way of putting you in a place where you can
make significant impact. And I'm just fortunate to be the
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steward and be seglected. Is that to be that, because
that's what I am. I I you know, I love
coaching young kids and young men. And I started my
career coaching the Eastern Junior proh yeah, yes. And it
all started with Wayne Martin and his kid and my
son and some of the best players do in that era.
And that's why I started that, and that's why I
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you know, I shoppened my teeth and uh, you know,
I'm more than a basketball coach. People don't understand, you know,
I'm I'm a mentor. I've been there, done that, and
now you know, I used to always talk about high
school coaches on what they didn't do from a fundamental
standpoint of teaching young men the bass of basketball, even
though they're talented. Now I get an opportunity to do that.
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So it's a match made in heaven, you know, I
can you know, and and you know how my career
has gone. You know, I've always been chasing and as
successful as I've been at the schools that I've been
at They've been very hard situations. Oh yeah, and I'm
at a place in my life now with my wife
and I you know, she's looking, you know, she's like Sean.
You know, you you've proven yourself. You know, it's unfortunate
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that you didn't get the opportunities as other guys have gotten.
But you still want to leave a legacy somewhere and
we need to, you know, be able to you know,
place our feet in the sand and leave a mark.
And this this is maybe your opportunity to do so.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
I was going to ask you that you were a
Mississippi Valley State. You became a national headline when you
took that school to the Inside Tournament. There's there's it
seems like every year there's there's a team like that that,
you know, the little team that could to have nots
to jump up and make a mark like that, and
that obviously that was a boost to your career. But
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that that truly is you will know, no disrespect one
of the have nots in college basketball.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
You know, that's where Jerry Rice went to school and
all that.
Speaker 4 (49:13):
But and you know morehead State has battled for everything
it's ever needed.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
You were at Southern, you now.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
You're at Scott County with a nice facility and as
you said, great tradition, great backing, so you're not trying
to dig out at this place. I know they had
a poor year this season, but you know you got
a lot going for you there that had to make
it so attractive it did.
Speaker 9 (49:39):
You know, And I'll tell you what I mean, it's
almost a better job than two of the jobs that
I had, you know what I'm saying, Just yeah, and
that's refreshing, you know, And you know, you're not worried
about the bottom line. You just worry about making an
impact with kids. And when you do it the right way,
especially at high school, good things happen. And you know,
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I know a you know, once we get it going,
we'll be able to attrack some of the stage finance
and some of the country's finance. And then that's why
I'm trying to get it to to where not only
to be one of the best teams in the state,
but you know, a national name like it had been
when when when coach Itch was there, So you know,
everything's lined up. I'm just happy to have an opportunity
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to be the guy and get it to back to
where it was. I mean, you know, I'm not gonna
treat it any different than I did in college. You know,
I'm gonna work my butt off, and you know my
thing was to never never let anybody else outwork me.
And shoot, I'm working hard already, and you know, just
to be back in the saddle. Uh, it is a blessing.
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And you know, it's a different type of mindset, it's
a different type of job, but it's it's I think
right now, in my mind, it could be more rewarding
because I'm making a bigger impact, not just with my
team and the varsity, but just the young people in
the community of Scott County. You know, I look forward
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to to reaching out to the and develop and even
the middle school and the elementary school, you know, because
that's what I that's who I am, Dick, and my
roots started here at coaching little kids, so I have
a passion for that. You know, the world has changed
a little bit, but I'm looking forward to the adjustment
and having a good time with it.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
He is Sean Wood was the new head coach at
Scott County High and of course one of the unforgettables.
We'll talk more basketball on the other side of the
break here on six thirty WLAP Welcome back with chatting
with Shawn Woods, the Unforgettable Guard. He is now the
head coach at Scott County High School, so new things
to deal with with younger folks. But you know you'll
be counseling people and one of the headlines when it
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comes to the portal this morning, coach, and earlier, I
guess it was later last night. You and I have
talked a lot about the Wildcats and Travis Perry, who
at the last minute puts his name into the portal,
and you and I have talked about the fact that
he's got a long way to go to compete at
the level of Kentucky competes.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
That I got to wonder, were you.
Speaker 4 (52:09):
Surprised at all that he chose that rap because it
looked like he was.
Speaker 3 (52:12):
Coming back and he still might. But clearly they've recruited
over him.
Speaker 9 (52:18):
No doubt about it. And we have to you know,
you know, but he's a Kentucky kid. You know, you
got the uniform, you know, But you know, Mark's got
to do what he's got to do, you know, and
and he's got to create, he's got to you know,
go o recruit the best so we can be able
to compete for national SEC championships and national championships. You know,
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Travis had a decision to make, and he you know,
the decision is do I sit here and enjoy the
ride and after I graduate, I can you know, still
be an important part of the community, the state of
Kentucky community and be successful burgess wise, you know, or
do I love play more at this particular time in
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my life and want to you know, and feel like
I have, you know, a lot to give to the
game of basketball, but just having an opportunity to play
at a lower level to where I can really have
some success. And that's the choice that he's making right now.
And you know, just because he's at Kentucky, just because
he's a Kentucky kid, you know, doesn't mean that the
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universe of Kentucky is the right fit for him from
a from a playing standpoint. But you know, you got
the opportunity, You earned the right, you know, with the
high school career that you had. Now it's you know,
I think he's a kid that wants to play, you know,
and you can't, you know, and he's a competitor and
you can't knock that.
Speaker 3 (53:41):
No, you can't.
Speaker 4 (53:43):
Players want to play, no question about that. And yeah,
and when he got his chance to contribute, he did
at times, and at times he was overmatched. But like
I said, it's it's a as you point out, it's
a potentially life changing decision. You had to make that
choice as a high school senior. I sometimes wonder if
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people realize. I remember hearing a football recruit talking about
this kid seemed incredibly mature for his age about his
college choice, and he said, Uh, it's going to determine
the rest of my life. It's going to probably determine
who I marry, you know, things like that. Have a wow,
this kid's gone deep on this.
Speaker 3 (54:22):
Uh. And it couldn't have been easy for him, right, No.
Speaker 9 (54:25):
You know, and I'm sure you know I can. I
can see him right now. He in his dad and mom,
you know, sitting there contemplating you know what I'm saying,
the pros and cons. Yeah, you know, because three four
years comes back comes real quick.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
Yeah. Yeah, dad's his coach.
Speaker 9 (54:44):
His dad was his high school coach, right and you
want to, you know, see where you can fit in
for the rest of your life, you know, And this
is a life, life changing situation here in the decision.
And you know I've been there, you know, I. You
know I I you know when we were you know,
when I was recruited and that year that's when we
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got hit with that probation. That's when we got hit
with the investigation. And when it went down after writing
during my vice freshman year and I was actually sitting
out that year, I had some real decisions to make,
and my mom just told me straight up, she said,
you're staying, you know, she said, you cann You're gonna
You're gonna weather this storm. This is the first time
as a young man, just time to grow up and
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and and face the fire and handle some type of
adversity and make the best of it. And it was
the best decision I ever made. You know, who would
have thought that my jerseysy be retired? Who thought that
I have to have an impact with three other men?
Where actually more than that to to to to have
that impact at the universe of Kentucky when it was
at the lowest peak of his entire makeup. So I
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I I don't envy him at all, But if he
does make whatever decision he made by putting this stuff
in in the portal. I give him kudos because that's
a that's a major decision. Uh. And he's got to
think of him. He's got to think for him, you know,
what's best for him. And that's why I respect it,
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you know what I mean. It's not you know what
everybody else thinks. It's about what he thinks because it's
his life. And I would love to see him wearing
at eleven again, you know what I'm saying for the
rest of his career because I like him as a person.
But you know, if he wants to go play and
play a lot of minutes, then he needs to go,
you know. But if he stays, he knows he's not
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gonna play that much. But he can still be a
fixture in the folklore you know of Kentucky basketball and
and live a happy life when it's all said and done,
because you know he's gonna be taken care of and
you know, get a decent job and being good business
when he graduate. So you.
Speaker 4 (56:53):
Interrupted, But do you think the portal situation has I
don't know if enhanced is the word, but intensified that
that feeling of self. You know, these kids now They're
almost forced to think more about themselves as opposed to, Hey,
I can go to this school and be a part
of something with these other guys who have signed and
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the other guys that are on the roster, and we together,
we can do this. Now, it seems like the portal
is forcing kids to think even more about themselves. And
you've got to start with yourself obviously, But you know,
it's it's almost like a pilum mentality.
Speaker 3 (57:30):
Do you see it that way?
Speaker 9 (57:33):
I mean, it's like what guys think in the NBA.
You know, you once you get there, it's a business,
and now college athletics has become a business. It's about
what can I how can I maximize who I am
financially in this situation? And it's unfortunate, it's almost nasty.
It's not pure anymore, and you know it's hard to grasp.
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I mean I went to the final four man and
not one coach was happy.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 9 (58:05):
You know, and that almost helped my decision on really
pursuing the sky Cannon situation. Really, you know, is money
worth all this headache and heartbreak? And you know, you know,
I like to coach. I like to get people to
buy into being prideful. Where is the pride anymore? You know?
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The Benjamins doesn't have pride. Benjamin's does not have pride?
Benjamins is what can you do for me? And for
me as a coach. I'm just old school, you know,
And you know, and the minute I think you're selfish,
the minute I think it's about you, that's hard to coach.
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And that's what we're doing right now. You know, they're
talking about Kentucky right now. You know the their roster
is worth twenty million dollars, ye million dollars. You know
now you really you know the handlers of these people,
the parents of these people. You know, not only is
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the twenty million dollars, but now you're getting it, you
get more calls, you know what I'm saying from parents
and handlers about playing time, what they look like, so
on and so forth. I mean, it's it's a lot
more to juggle. You know, where's the national chair to
compete for national championship come into play? Where does it
compete for the SEC championship? Come into play? Where is it?
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You know? The pride? You know? And that's what I
was I keep bragging on Mark Pope about what he
put together this past year. As far as you know,
the mentality of these guys being bought in, right, right,
that's gonna be hard to do every year when you
you know, when you know, you can't get a kid
unless you pay him X amount of dollars. He ain't
worried about Kentucky the tradition. He's worried about how much
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money am I getting.
Speaker 4 (59:57):
You have got to get the right kids in there.
Every coach, but every coach is dealing with that. Well,
it has been quick. We'll talk again, but congrats again
once again on the Scott County job. Shawn Woods, the
unforgettable guard now the head coach of the Scott County Cardinal.
Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Your cardinal, Sean.
Speaker 9 (01:00:16):
Hey, did you see me on BBN the other night.
You know I'm a cardinal, but I'm a Scott Catty,
Scott County cart County cardinal. If you look at the deal,
it has six teeth in his mouth. Okay, the other
cardinal does it?
Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
Okay, all right, I'm glad you pointed that out. All right, coach,
we'll talk next week.
Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Thanks.
Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
So happy for Sean. I know he wanted to get
back into coaching. He was kind enough to send me.
I didn't know this was happening, but he texted me
the front page of the Georgetown newspaper, which had a
little teaser up in the corner, and then the front
page of the sports section with his picture on it,
saying that he had been hired as the new head
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coach of the Cardinals. So Scott County, it's gonna be
interesting to see if they can bounce back from six
to twenty one. Western Bureau Chief Gary Moore next six
thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Big bluin Cider. It
is Wednesday, which means we will look west to the
other end of I sixty four to our West End
Bureau chief, Gary Moore, longtime West Coast Bureau chief, and
he's moved from Los Angeles to LA the Louisville.
Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Area where we chat with him every week.
Speaker 11 (01:01:27):
Dude, two guys in a six pack, and ladies and gentlemen.
This is our annual final mock draft episode where we
run off the audience by predicting all seven rounds and
all two hundred and fifty seven.
Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Smoke him if you got him all craft.
Speaker 11 (01:01:41):
We don't have time for that, Okay, T minus twenty
four hours and change until the most tedious three and
a half hours in all of sports. Round one and
only Round one of the NFL Draft tomorrow night, eight
to eleven thirty pm. If you can stay awake on
ABC and on ESPN and on the NFL Network live
from U sure, beloved lambeau Field stockholder, you it's all
(01:02:04):
we're gonna do here, And swig number one is just
pick draft choice number one, pretending that you and I
are both the Titans general manager, because they still have
as of right now at the number one pick. Now,
if I'm the GM of Tennessee, first of all, I'm
living down in Belle Mead. Boy, that's a nice area
and it's gorgeous down there. And with our first pick
in the draft, I'm gonna take the best, most talented
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quarterback that is obviously cam Ward. Why well, he seems
to think faster than my current guy, Will Levis, because
he's put up some monster offensive numbers consistently down there,
and he's done it running.
Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Around a lot.
Speaker 11 (01:02:40):
And that's another reason I would take him, because of
my porous o line. So he's gonna have to scramble
a hell of a lot here in the first year,
who you're gonna take at number one?
Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Yeah, I think you have to take Ward because you
need a QB.
Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
They've given up clearly on will Levis, although interestingly they
fired a Vrabel as head coach because he was not
fully by.
Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Hind Will Levis. But anyhow, Yeah, this kid's gonna have
the same.
Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
Problem the Lewis had, although maybe he makes better decisions.
Levis forced too many plays and made too many turnovers.
But the biggest problem Gary, in my mind, is that
let's say you take Abdul Carter, or you taking you know,
a defensive player or whatever, there aren't any qbs out
there who could really help you in the immediate future.
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And I'm looking right at you, Aaron Rodgers, You're not
the answer either. If there were somebody out there in
the free agent world, and.
Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
They would have made that move by now.
Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
But they have made no secret, the Titans, about the
fact that they're not going to move that number one pick.
Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
So it looks like they're committed to a QB. And look,
you'll sell some tickets, right sure, part of.
Speaker 11 (01:03:46):
It our second swig in the six packs. So another
week of NBA playoffs. Man, they're getting physical out there.
We saw some of that last night. Man, elbows are
flying all over the place. Another week to actually give
a rats rump about the association for me. So we
got three big games Tony Orlando, Boston, Miami at Cleveland,
and my Warriors at Houston. And also this week another
mindless moment. I know you've talked about it from Dallas
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general manager for now Nico Harrison, who said on Monday,
quote I did know that Luca was important to the
fan base, I didn't quite.
Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Know it to what level.
Speaker 11 (01:04:20):
Unquote talk about being so far in the frame you
can't see the picture. Can you even imagine red auerback
miscalculating to a Celtics fan's love of Larry Bird or
Jerry West, not knowing how popular Magic or Kobe was
to all the fans. Now, remember and besides Luca, let's
not forget Harrison, let some kid name Jalen Brunson escape
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to New York. Yeah, a couple of years ago, Sacramento
in Atlanta just fired their gms. They didn't say anything
nearly as stupid as Harrison. So how does this guy
still have a gig? Is it because he's got this
huge extension? They still owe them a lot of money
that he signed last summer after the championship run.
Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Gotta be I just read a piece in The Athletic
about this whole dynamic and Mark Cuban, And of course
we know that if Cuban had still been the guy
in charge, that this likely would.
Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Not have happened. Although when Cuban sold, he was.
Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
Supposedly going to help make basketball decisions.
Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Cuban and Nico. Well, now it's Nico and Cuban, but.
Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
There's also Gary, a long list of mistakes made by
Cuban and by the Mavericks of great players they have
not drafted. You referred to Jalen Brunson. He's not the
only one, but this is clearly the dumbest move. And
I really believe that Harrison was trying to minimize, you know,
his damaging role. And I like what Charles Barkley, Oh
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I Love on TNT said, just, you know, stop talking,
just to shut up.
Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
You made a mistake, own it. Stop. But this guy
can't seem to get out of his own way. Third
swig in the six backs.
Speaker 11 (01:06:01):
Speaking of reading the room illiteracy, did you see the
tweet that UCLA Football sent out welcoming new quarterback banknote Nico.
They had Nico in a UCLA uniform wearing the same
number that he wore last year at Tennessee, number eight.
Just one problem, that number was retired years ago after
it was worn by former Brewin star and Hall of
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Famer some guy named Troy Aikman. Suffice to say, a
lot of Brewin fans were already unhappy with the school
welcoming a kid who apparently held out for more dough
and then bolted way late in the spring, almost screwing
up that Orange.
Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
School's quarterback sitch.
Speaker 11 (01:06:36):
Until because we've seen the quarterback UCLA had already signed
from app State, Joey Aguilarp said, f this went and
signed with the Vols an nil trade for an nil trade.
Basically your pal. Bill Plashke also sent out the welcome
wagon in his latest La Times column with the headline
Nico yalim well, I can't pronounce his last name, Nico
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joining uc everybody loses now besides Nico signing with UCLA
after he signed with the Balls. You've got more on
this a little bit later on. But Nico's little brother
is also coming to Westwood. Maybe maybe after a couple
of months at Arkansas. Full disclosure here, I did some
postgraduate studies at UCLA, and yeah, this all feels really
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slimy to me. But you know, I also recall Troy
Aikman also transferred to UCLA from Oklahoma, but that was
about Switzer's wishbone offense, not about a gold digging punk here.
But this, I got a bad feeling about this, dick.
You know what football karma can be, Like, we'll see
what happens in the fall.
Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
Aikman never should have signed with Oklahoma in the first place,
if you're back to that, because of that offense, as
you said, And yeah, we talked earlier about Nico's brother Madden,
but yeah, this is an interesting sub chapter in the
world of college sports, the chapter about nil and the
portal and all that. And now, as I mentioned earlier,
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Arkansas's pushing back, and I'm certain Arkansas doesn't want to
keep this kid, but you know, the collective like, hey,
what about our money? You never played a game, and
you know it's going to wind up in front of
a judge somewhere or at least in depositions and all that.
But yeah, I just have a hard time seeing how
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this is going to work out for UCLA, and I
think Agilar is going to be the winner because you
talk about a quarterback friendly offense at Tennessee, right, Yeah, and.
Speaker 11 (01:08:29):
He's got a great coach who was a quarterback obviously,
and we'll go from there. Yeah, let's see here forth
Swig and the six backs. Speaking of that fugly Arne school,
shout out to the Batcats who went down I seventy
five over the weekend, took two out of three from
the then number two team in the nation, and then
last night out of Kentucky Proud Park early night for
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you never Cats needed only seven innings to throttle number
nineteen Louisville seventeen to five. Cards are baut rated fall
out of the top twenty five. Maybe after this weekend
they've got three with number ten Florida State starting out
here on Friday. UK goes for four in a row
Friday night, six thirty at Proud Park, first to three
with South Carolina, then they head down to Warren County
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and one with WKU. And speaking of the number seventeen Hilltoppers,
they abused Evansville last night in BG fourteen to four,
running their record thirty three and seven twenty four and
one at home on.
Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
The campus of WKU.
Speaker 11 (01:09:25):
It's gonna be your alma mater and mine might be
a game there next Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Something's got to give, Gabriel.
Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
Yeah, Kentucky now playing with a lot of confidence, obviously,
and really it started a.
Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Week ago with the comeback win over Miami.
Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
So basically they came from ahead, then came from maybe
not behind, but from a tie game and won a
walk off. But yeah, they played with so much confidence
against Tennessee. The pitching has come around. Now they're getting
the offense. We talked to one of the players after
the game last night. He said, we stopped worrying about
home runs and that just quality add bats, just trying
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to stack up what they call quabs, and it's working
for them. So you know, they've they've they flirted with
success so many times this year, so many close losses.
So now let's not discount the fact that the schedule
is letting up ever so slightly, relatively speaking.
Speaker 11 (01:10:20):
Agreed Fittswig and the six Pack. Let's talk minor league
baseball here in the Commonwealth. Opening night for your Lexington
Legends on Friday night, yep let Legends Field over there
just off North Broadway. Postgame fireworks going to be happening
Friday night.
Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Then down in.
Speaker 11 (01:10:34):
Bowling Green on Saturday, Rot Row You meddling kids get
Scooby Doo Night at the Hot Rods game. That's a
four oh five in the afternoon. First pitch players are
going to be wearing these actually pretty cool Scooby Doo
jerseys that's going to be auctioned off to benefit the
Buddy House for down Syndrome. I've actually posted a photo
of the jerseys on next They did a pretty cool
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job with those. But you know, Dick, no good theme
night goes unpunished. In a crystal clear sign, the apocalypse
is still upon us. Our Louisville Bats over here Friday
night are apparently willingly hosting Pickleball Appreciation Night, pickled pickle
themed drinks. Thanks, I'll pass even if you're buying pickle
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themed food, And there's also a special ticket package that
will also punish you with a don't wait for it,
Bats pickleball paddle for something that isn't quite ping pong.
It isn't quite tennis, but it certainly has the most
annoying ball paddle sound. That is the antithesis of leather
hitting a Louisville slugger.
Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
Try appreciating that.
Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
Oh man, I have not given in to the pickleball craze.
Several friends of mine have here over in Lexion In
at Woodland Park. They renovated one of the tennis courts
and now it's a pickleball court. Look, it's people getting
out getting exercise. That's a good thing, I know, but
it's just right now, it's too much. And that's always
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the case. I think it's more than a fad. It's
a new sport quote unquote. But yeah, I can do
with that pickle lemonade, which is being offered to one
of the fast food franchises right now.
Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Now I'm my hometown of Murray. They just opened up
some brand new pickleball courts. Nice try tennis folks. Okay
if you.
Speaker 11 (01:12:21):
Sixth and final swig since you and I last spoke,
It was announced that former U of L and Indiana
football coach and the heart and soul of ESPN's College
Game Day League Corso, would be taking his final bow
on the first show of the twenty twenty five season.
It'll be August thirtieth, twenty three days after coach celebrates
his ninetieth birthday. Now, we've been kind of prepped for
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not seeing him on the panel the past couple of
years when he's had to miss shows for health reasons
or whatever. But it's still going to take them getting
used to not seeing them every week, and not just
because of the numbers. He's been there thirty eight years,
four hundred and thirty mascot headgear picks. That's a winning
percentage of sixty six and I have percent with a
perfect nineteen ninety nine season, but not so fast with
the numbers.
Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
It's more than that, way more than that. It's him.
It's the guy. It's the man's heart, his.
Speaker 11 (01:13:09):
Love not only for the game we all love, but
his love for people and the fans and humanity in general.
You can always tell that, You've always been able to
tell that over the years. That inferior knockoff pregame show
in Fox doesn't have anyone in the same personality area
code as League Corso the only question is does ESPN
retire the head wear picks. I think probably don't have
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to because you know, Dick, I can't imagine Nick Saban
putting on the head piece, putting on the head piece
of an Auburn Tiger. Given the odds of that team winning.
Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Maybe they let McAfee do it.
Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
I think people might accept that from him because he
is outrageous and you know, I'm with you, though, I
think that might be a bit that they need to retire.
Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
It was so much fun growing up in Louisville watching
Corso's teams play. He's a good football coach. He's put
together a really good program in Louisville.
Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
And here's all you need to know about Lee Corso
as a promoter and as a performer.
Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
His Coaches show, the theme.
Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
Music was Foggy Mountain Breakdown. I mean, if that didn't
get you excited, this is back when coaches shows were
the window to the team because generally it was the
only time you could see the video of most teams playing. Yeah,
he was a lot of fun to watch. He was
a lot of fun on ESPN. And I love the
fact that not so fast my Friends became a thing
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and it was something that was organic. It just happened
naturally and now as part of our lexicon, and that's
something I'm thankfully forever. People will think sports fans about
Lee Corso when they hear that or say that he
is Gary Moore, our West N Bureau chief will come
back with more in just a minute. On the Big
Blue Sider six thirty WLAP Welcome back, We're chatting with
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Gary Murrio as our West N Bureau chief. We heard
two guys in a six pack. Now time for a
couple of hot reads. And you know we're always.
Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
Banging on people. It seems like in this segment having
fun with it.
Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
But we need to really really tip our collective caps
to rock O Beckt. He is an Iowa state quarterback.
And we talked about these guys.
Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
You know, going for the money and you know this
guy might get sued and that guy ran out on
a team.
Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
This is a guy who used his nil earnings to
donate entertainment consoles to pediatric rooms at a hospital at
a medical center in Ames.
Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Iowa this week.
Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
Gary, And all I can say is, let's hope that
it leads to more of this kind of thing.
Speaker 11 (01:15:31):
I'm just going to say more of this, please. And
I love the fact that it's getting a lot of
good publicity because, as we know, publicize something good like that,
well I can do that with my money. Hey, that's
a great idea. Hey, why not, you know, and that's
kind of a ripple effect. Let's see more of that
kind of stuff happening, because we all know that these colleges,
you know, everybody's got a hospital nearby, a lot of
them are obviously at a lot of medical schools involved
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with that, and just good things in general that guys
are doing with money.
Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
I like to see that kind of matrure what a
good guy.
Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
Yeah, and it's by coincidence in the state of Iowa
where during University of Iowa football games.
Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
We've talked about this through the years.
Speaker 4 (01:16:09):
At one point, I think it's at the end of
the first quarter, everybody in the stadium, players included.
Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
The stadium's right next to the children's hospital. You've seen
the video.
Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
Everybody turns and waves at the kids who are all
watching the game through the windows of their hospital rooms.
Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
Actually, I get emotional just thinking about that. Yeah, I
agree with you.
Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
And you know, there are people who find I don't
know if distasteful is the right word, but they wonder
about people like John Caliperi, who was very public with
his charity work, and like, you know, a lot of
people think it's you know, hey, look at me.
Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
I'm a great guy. Whatever.
Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
That's fine, But what it might also do is prompt
somebody else to do it. Like you said, Yes, somebody
notices what this kid from Iowa State's doing and thinks, hey,
maybe I can do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
Follow the leaders on things like that. Yeah, follow the
charity leaders.
Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
Well, we have touched on this a little bit, but
Arkansas now at least a collective, and the school will
work with Arkansas Edge. I mentioned this earlier in the show,
is putting, as the headline said, putting Madden Iamalieva into
the crosshairs by encouraging the collective to try to get
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back some of its money. Good and evidently, in reading
an article on cbsports dot com, this is not an
isolated incident of kids signing, taking the money, and then
you know, I need to move on. Thanks Bob, thanks
for the swell money by We're going to see more
of this, Gary, and it's going to get ugly before
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it gets pretty.
Speaker 11 (01:17:45):
The confusing thing about this is we don't really see
any of the contracts, do we We don't know if
there's a clause that says you have to pay back
if you leave within this timeframe, and what I've been
able to read is that even if there is that
kind of language in there, it could be nullified. I'd
buy this house agreement that's going to be coming up
approval pretty soon, that involves all of the schools, and
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as far as it was already supposed to have been approved,
I think by last week, by Good Friday, and now
it's going to be like maybe another couple three weeks,
maybe another month.
Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
We don't know.
Speaker 11 (01:18:16):
There's so much legal mumbo jumbo up in the air
about this. I know they're gonna get their money back.
I mean, it seems like it would be the right
thing to do if if players should have a buyout clause,
if the coaches have a buyout clause, right, you.
Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Would think so.
Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
But was odd is at least in some of these
agreements it doesn't include how much or even if you play.
Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
So I think if nothing else, will see some of
these deals rewritten. But again, no guardrails. That's the entire
problem with NIL and with the portal.
Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
They had to rush into this because of the Ed
O'Bannon case, and so now they're kind of trying to
figure it out as they go along, and that's no
way to deal with millions of dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
He is Gary More, He is our West End bureau chep.
Speaker 4 (01:19:01):
We traveled him each and every week and you can
follow his musings in rants on Twitter or x at.
Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
At nine to five five Gary, same joint you're at
yep at Big Blue Sider one. Thank you sir.
Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
Have a good week, have good week, Derby fun next
week and I am looking forward to that.
Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
That's gonna do it for this edition of the Big
Boon Sider.
Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
Thanks to coach Sean Woods to Gary Moore, to Aaron
Gersha and that said, good night from the garage in Lexington.
Speaker 9 (01:19:26):
What's going I say, what's going on here?
Speaker 7 (01:19:29):
Staying here with you?
Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Beak open, say something explaining yourself.
Speaker 9 (01:19:33):
Your tongue's flipping, but no noise that's coming on of
your big mob.
Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
Don't get out and stay out, scrash out.
Speaker 10 (01:19:40):
Air, take that, stain anything, do anything, Satan.
Speaker 9 (01:20:55):
Take that.
Speaker 10 (01:20:58):
Anything, but I think done. Dont doing the
Oh, oh, guess what day it is?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Guess what day it is?
Speaker 1 (00:05):
H anybody, It's hump Day.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Yes, it is hump Day.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
Dick Gabriel with you on a Wednesday edition of The
Big Blue Insider. Thank you so much for joining us.
And as we reach the midweek, there's all kinds of
stuff to talk about, because of course, the portal never
never fails.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
It always gives us something to talk about, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
And last night, late last night at the portal closed
at midnight, and last night or sometime late yesterday, Travis
Perry puts his name in the portal. Doesn't necessarily mean
he's leaving, but for all practical purposes, if he wants
to play, you know, appreciable minutes this coming year, then
he'll find somewhere else to play. So we got that
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to talk about. The Wildcats lose one in terms of
football to Vanderbilt.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
We'll talk about that as well.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Arkansas apparently is losing a quarterback or maybe not.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
They're gonna fight it.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
That story popped up yesterday as well, and Lane Kiffin
takes a cheap shot at Carson Beck. Lots and lots
of portal news, which kind of shoves the Kentucky baseball
win over Louisville last night.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
To our second segment.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
It was a really, really unexpected kind of game after
those two teams played and again it was bitterly cold.
Two weeks ago over in Louisville played a heck of
a ball game. It went ten innings and Louisville won
at four to three. Kentucky scored a run on the
top of the ten, Louisville put up two and came
away with the walk off win. Well, last night, Kentucky
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jumped on the Cardinals early and just kept piling up runs.
I got to tell you, with all due respect because
Dan McDonald knows what he's doing the head coach at Louisville,
especially when it comes to pitching, but that was the
worst pitching I've ever seen from a Louisville ball club
in that game.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
And I've seen just about all of them through the years.
They and we knew going in.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
We were told by somebody who covered the team that man,
these kids can hit, they can score runs, but they've
got some real issues when it comes to pitching. They're
still in the running in the ACC, but they've got problems,
especially midweek. So Kentucky took full advantage. We'll talk about
that coming up. We'll also talk about that with Aaron
Gershan of the Cat's Pauls, who was covering the game
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last night. But we need to talk about, of course,
Travis Perry jumping into the portal. We'll talk with Aaron
about that. Perry, it's a bit of a surprise because
by all accounts he was coming back. Most of us
thought he was coming back, and he had not indicated
any interest in entering the portal. In fact, people talk
to him right after the NCA tournament was over, but
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he jumped in just ahead of Tuesday's deadline eleven fifty
eleven fifty nine pm last night. Second scholarship player to
hit the portal, as you know, kerk Crisa was the other,
and then the two walk Ons, Grant Derbyshire and Walker
Horn also in the portal. So now Kentucky with twelve
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Skalie players for next year. Waiting to hear from Otega Olway,
who's going through the NBA draft process, he'll make his decision.
He has to by June fifteenth in order to withdraw
in order to maintain his eligibility. Perry played in thirty
one game, started four as a freshman. Of course, Lamont
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Butler's injury gave him more opportunity to play. Averaged two
point seven points, only hit thirty one point three percent
from the floor thirty two percent from three point range.
Had his best games, ironically enough, in losses to Alabama.
He scored twelve points at four steals in a loss
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at Alabama February twenty second, played really well, and then
in the loss to the Crimson Tide in the SEC Tournament,
the blowout, he scored eleven points. Perry hit at least
one triple in thirteen of UK's final twenty one games.
But of course Mark Pope and staff bring in Jalon Lowe,
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the kid from Pittsburgh. Denzel Aberdeen comes in. Maybe that
was the last straw. Who knows you knew Jasper Johnson
was coming. He's a combo guard. Travis Perry is considered
a point guard, and that's primarily what he played for Kentucky.
I never really thought of him as a point guard
simply because and I know that's the position he played
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and that was his assignment for Kentucky. But watching him
in the sweet sixteen, of course as the guy who
broke King Kelly Coleman's record. He was the facilitator as
well as the scorer for Lion County.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
He handled the ball a lot and he looked to.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Get his teammates involved, but they needed him to score
and he did. That's why he was the most viable
player in the Sweet sixteen, leading the Lions to their
first and only state champion and ship a couple of
years back, five thy four hundred and eighty one points.
Also the career leader in field goals made with nineteen
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hundred and eighteen free throws nine hundred and thirty three.
He holds the record for mad three pointers seven hundred
and twelve and steals at six hundred and fifty and
coming out two four seven Sports rated him the number
eighty eight overall prospect in the country in the twenty
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twenty four class and the number seven point guard. But again,
I never really thought of him as a point guard,
although given his size, that's essentially what he probably needed
to play in college, and he wasn't going to be
needed to score that much for Kentucky. Now where's he
gonna end up? Well, who else recruited him? Western Kentucky,
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Ole Miss Cincinnati. You know, can he play in those
places depends on who they have, who's coming through the
portal to them.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Who's leaving through the portal. So kind of a surprise
to the Big Moon Nation.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
I think people are a little disappointed, but surprised only
by the timing. If you looked at the roster, you
had to wonder when and if this kid's ever going
to get a chance to play. That's just the nature
of the portal right now. So best of luck to
Travis Perry. Wildcat football program missed out Jalen Sloan, who
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visited UK, chose Vanderbilt. He's a Southeast Missouri defensive lineman
and it, from what I understand, look good for the
Wildcats until the lake going.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And he's going to Vandy.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
He tweeted an image of himself in Vandy Cullers and
all I said is committed six two, two eighty eight
three star recruits from a Georgia played thirteen games over
the last couple of years with Southeast Missouri and didn't
have great numbers, but he is the second lineman to
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choose Vanderbilt. Vandy's getting done in the portal. Apparently, Clinton
as a bookie or might he might pronounce it as
a week A is an old lineman from northern Arizona,
the Lumberjacks, and he announced he was going to Vandy.
That was not a kid that Kentucky was looking at,
but Jalen Sloan was somebody the Wildcats coveted, but instead
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going to Vanderbilt. Hey, you win some into portal and
you lose some. To me, the biggest portal story today,
well there's two of them. Number one, Lane Kiffin sniping
at Carson Beck.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I mean it's Lane being Lane, right.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Carson Beck transfers to Miami, hurt his arm in the
championship game and has to go and get his arm repaired.
He rehabs, and then he jumps into portal and signs
with Miami after his season ended in the SEC title game.
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But apparently he has rehabilitated well enough for him to
be handed an NIL deal worth more than four million.
Lane Kiffin was on a podcast called The Pivot with
some former NFL players Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder, and Fred Taylor,
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and one of the hosts brought up the fact that
college kids are making an insane amount of money.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Right now compared to what the NFL guys make.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
So, like you bring up the comparison to what they're doing,
they're really getting NFL much. It's crazy, coach that you
bring up the NFL structure with college now, because they're
in the contract, they're making money. They're making millions a dollar.
I think down in Miami, what's a Carson Beck four
point three four points value union? He I think my
biggest year was six. He's a college kid. So, like
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you bring up the comparison to what they're doing, they're
really getting NFL money.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Mimi even four point three million dollars, that's what the
evaluation says. Hey, did they watch this game against Oh,
don't have to be great, Jane trying.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Not to go.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
That's Lane Kiffin appearing on the podcast The Pivot, and
you could probably maybe hear him in the background saying, oh,
you set me up or something like that.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
But he was still laughing about it.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
To his point, Beck did not play well against Ole Miss.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Which beat Georgia last year.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Beck was twenty for thirty one for one hundred and
eighty six yards and one interception. Now, Carson Beck played
well in the second half against Kentucky, but it was
interesting how Kentucky stayed close to the Bulldogs until halftime,
when it was apparent that the Georgia brain trust got
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together her and said, look, we need Carson Beck to
win this game for us. And he ended up having
a really good second half and the Bulldogs pulled away.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
But for the.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Season, Beck threw for more than thirty four or nearly
thirty five hundred yards, twenty eight touchdowns, twelve picks, sixty
four point seven percent pass completion rate. But evidently Lane
Kiffin isn't all that impressed with him. He did say,
I don't get mad at the kids. It's not their fault.
The system is they can go get it. It's free
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market with no cap and in some areas unlimited boosters.
Apparently Beck's deal is only second to arch Manning's in value.
Apparently arch Manning, who is now I guess the starting
quarterback of Texas six point six million. The other story
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is what's happening at Arkans. The Razorbacks apparently lose a quarterback,
Madden Iamaieva, the brother of Nico. He is in the
portal and heading apparently for Southern cal I'm sorry for
Ucla to play with his brother, but Hunter Yurachek, the
guy the ad who hired John Calipari, has stepped in and,
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as one reporter put it, rattled his saber. He has said,
I've spoken with the leadership at Arkansas EDGE that's a
collective at Arkansas, and expressed my support in their pursuit
to enforce their rights under any agreement violated by our
student athletes. Moving forward, we appreciate EDGE his investment in
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our student athletes and acknowledge the enforcement of these agreements
is vital in our new world of college athletics. In
other words, you can't take the money and run, or
at least if you do, there are going to be
consequences because it says here a lot of kids have
ignored buyout language.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
And now this may be tested legally. I won't say
in court, but legally.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
So these are going to be really interesting times when
it comes to nil contracts.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
How legal are they? Not?
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Long after Nico transferred to UCLA, Madden told the coaches
he's homesick, wants to go back to southern California.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
But the rub is.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
He never played a game for the Razorbacks. He had
originally committed to UCLA flipped to Arkansas agreed to a
one year deal with Arkansas Edge, and now he wants
to go to UCLA, which originally, as we said, had
signed him, or at least he committed to UCLA.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
This is going to be interesting, all right.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
When we come back with talk Kentucky baseball a little
bit later on, Aaron Gershon of the cats Balls will
chat with us, as will Shawn was the unforgettable Guard
and our Weston Bureau chief Gary Moore here on six
thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big Blue Cider. Coming
up at the bottom of the hour. Aaron Gershan of
the cats Balls. We'll talk about the Travis Perry decision
to end of the portal and some doings with UK
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football as it relates.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
To the portal.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Plus he covered Kentucky baseball last night. Our number two
Weston Bureau chief, Gary Moore, will join us.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Also Sean Woods.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
We talked to Sean every Wednesday, but this will be
our first conversation since he was named the head basketball
coach at Scott County High School. So Scott County, which
went six and twenty one last year, making the change,
and we're going to see if Seawn can work kind
of the same magic that he worked at Mississippi Valley State,
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a team that he coached to a conference and conference
tournament championship into the NCAA Tournament. When Shawn began to
really make a name for himself, you might recall he
was an morehead state. Things were going well and then
there was some sort of misunderstanding with one of his
players who made an accusation about Sean. Long story short,
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it was a big misunderstanding, and as it was explained
to me, this was a young man who was prone
to get down on himself, and after a mistake prior
to halftime, he was hanging his head in the locker
room and Sean kind of popped him on the shoulder
and said, hey, man, get your head up, We're good.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
And later on the.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Kids said to his father, hey, the coach hit me,
and the dad made a huge deal out of it,
and then the young man wanted to recant and just
make it all go away, but it was too late.
By then the school had made a bigger deal out
of it. Frankly, as I understand it.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Then it should have. So since then, Shawn's been looking
for a new gig.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
He's been doing this and that, but wanted to get
back into coaching and was coaching right along. When he
was on TV with Glacott dot Com the teams in
the eleven region and had a chance to chat with
him about high school basketball leading up to the Sweet sixteen,
and at one point he indicated that he was maybe
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interested in coaching at the high school level because he
got excited about it again. So we'll talk to him
about all of that coming up in our number two
baseball Wildcats last night got their revenge and then some.
They lost to Louisville four to three and ten innings
two weeks ago. Last night it was seventeen to five.
The big blow that opened the gates. Patrick Herrera crushed the.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Ball to center field.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
And I had just been talking to Doug Flynn, my
broadcast partner on SEC plus, about the sun, and Doug
always brings that up as a Gold Glove winner, how
difficult the sun can be both on hitters and defenders.
And we could see with the shadows covering the infield,
outfielders were still shading their eyes from the sun that
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was right behind the stadium and the Louisville the centerfielder
simply lost the ball in the sun never had a chance,
and that was a screamer that Herrera hit and it
rolled all the way to the wall. It bases loaded,
cleared the bases. Herrera ends up with a triple. He
later had a home run that was an unbelievable massive
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shot that was about six to ten feet past to
the right of the fair file pole. So he had
a huge game. And we talked to Patrick after the
game on SEC Plus.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
And when you squared up the ball they went for
a triple, you knew you had crushed it, right.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, Well, I hit it and I was like, dang,
I think I got all that. I don't know why
he's running in and you know at our field the
sun is right. Yeah, filled his eyes so kind of
lucked out, hit it hard, couldn't ask for anything more,
and then got by him. So he I was happy
with that swing and happy I could get the rbs
right there.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
And you had to be happy with the swing on
the home run. Tell us about that.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, that one a little more so, probably than the triple.
I don't mind that one at all. But yeah, got
a pitch in a good count and uh just got
my swing off. I told myself before I swung like if.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I miss miss early.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
So that was that was a good swing, Patrick, over
the last week or so. You gotta like where your
team is right now. You guys are playing good ball.
The pitching has really come around, and every opportunity you
get to knock in some runs, you guys have been
stepping up getting some big hits.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, for sure, We've started a new thing where we
just want to hop on the quab train. You know,
we don't need a bunch of home runs or doubles.
We just want to get a bunch of quabs one
after another. So we found a way to do that
this past weekend tonight. So yeah, it's been good for us.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
All right.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
You eased up there at first base on that one
hit you okay.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, I'll be good, ready to go for the weekend.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, we figured that, We figured that, all right.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
You played well in Northwestern You have been an important
part of Kentucky baseball. What's it like for you now
as a leader for this team. You got a lot
of new faces this year, helping the young.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Guys come along.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, for sure. You know I've I've lucked out over
the years. I've had guys like writer Childs who I
lived with.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
He's now one of our coaches.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Grant Smith, Amelian Pedre, Mitch Dailey just like showing me
how you're supposed to go about your business. So I've
just learned from them and use that this year, and
I'm just really blessed to be in the position i
am this year.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
For Hey, you got to be really proud though, buddy,
I'll tell you what you paid your dues. You worked
at it, you kept getting yourself better, and now it's
paying off.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, for sure, I'm glad the hard work's paying office here.
And you know, we've been playing well, so we just
got to keep it up.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
That's Patrick Herrera and his last year with the program.
He transferred in from Northwestern. He was all Big ten,
but was a utility player last year infield or outfielder
for the team that went to Omar. He locked down
the third base job and except for some games where
he was the DH because he.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Was a little bit injured. He hit an arm injury.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
He's back now excellent defender and had a great night
against Louisville last night. So the Wildcats heading into the
weekend with a series against the South Carolina game Cocks
who have been struggling this year. Big opportunity for the
Wildcats to rack up some more wins and get themselves
in a position for postseason, to take the decision making
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away as much as they can from the committee members,
make sure they're locked in and rack up as many
victories now as they can. The schedule lets up just
slightly the Cats with a home series this weekend against
South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
You'll hear all those games right here, and you'll see
him on SEC Plus.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Up next, Aaron gershan of the Catch Balls here on
six point thirty WLAP Welcome back to.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
The Big Blue Insider.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Joining us now as he does every week, is Aaron
Gershaan of the Catch Bass.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
We try to give Aaron some time off.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
He joins us on the State Wide show on Monday
through the seasons. But Aaron, there's too much going on man, Baseball, football, basketball.
Let us start with Travis Perry's announcement. Should we be
surprised by that, because by all accounts he was coming back.
Does this represent a change of mind for him?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Or did we just assume too much?
Speaker 9 (20:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Probably, It's probably a combination of bolts. Honestly, I mean
the fact that came down to the eleventh hour quite literally,
with a portal closing at midnight last night. You're seeing
some you know, announcements today. That's just the paperwork being
filed and trickling in. But you know, clearly he put
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as much thought as he possibly could into this decision.
And you know, I don't think we as the media
read too much into it because he was the only
guy after the Loston Tennessee that was asked if he
was coming back in point blank answered with yes. So
I mean, it's hard to not take a kid at
his word. But when you see what Kentucky did in
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the transfer portal right this offseason, kind of loading up
at his position and clearly recruiting over him, and you
know they were at thirteen scholarship players, it just it
just made sense for Travis, I think. And there just
wasn't the playing spot. I think Mark Polpe like to
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play eleven guys. Probably the two odd men out with
the thirteen they originally had would have been I would
say Malachi right now and Travis Perry. So, uh, it's
a frustrating thing. I'm sure for Travis this is probably
oh I know for a fact, this is Rome School. Yeah,
it made sense.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Wait a minute, now, you think that did. Malachi won't
get much run this coming.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
Season, not as a true freshman. I just don't think.
So you have Jaq Clayton, you are, you have Jay
and Clayton's Jake Hughes his nickname. If he's that healthy.
You know, maybe early on in the season you see
Maliki in some of those non conference games, but he's
going to demand a lot of playing time, probably gonna
be your starting center. And then they they learned Brandon
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Garrison that so I think if they were gonna if
they were planning on playing MALICEI heavy minutes, I don't
know if you go all out to lear Brandon Garrison back, well.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
You know Moreno is like I'm sure, and I've seen
him play a lot a lot of bigs.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
It just takes longer for them to develop at the
college level. He is a much better player now than
he was last year when he led great crossing to
this through the sweet sixteen.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
So, but getting back to Travis Perry, you know, I'm
sure a lot of schools will love to have a
kid who can shoot like that.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I was saying earlier in the show.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Aaron that when I saw him in high school, he
did everything, brought the ball up the floor, facilitated and scored.
And I know he played point guard at Kentucky. He's
listed as a point guard. I just think of him
more as a two, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
Yeah, I definitely see him as a two as well.
And I just think that last year he had to
play the one at Sea. They were up against it,
and they definitely played him at a position. The problem is, yes,
he's a two, but he's also only six to one
and eighty pounds, right, so in the SEC with the
way it was last year, really hard to cut him
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at the two. Then they had to play him at
the one at a necessity. I'm sure even before his
decision to transfer, he'd been working on adding some weight,
but at this point maybe he could grow. He's only eighteen,
but you know, you're only six to one and and
as a physical as a league, it's really tough. So
but this was also I'm just throwing this out there.
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I know, SOORC or scoop on this, but we're in
a time right where crazy things happen. Who's to say
Travis doesn't go put on some good weight play really
well somewhere else and maybe it's at Western I don't know,
and comes back here one day. That is literally kind
of how how the way the world is right now.
And I just think probably at the end of the day,
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this is the best objectively for him, I think it's
the best decision if he is going to go transfer
where he can get somewhere to play. And for Kentucky,
you know, not to nothing against Travis, but it's just
it's not a big deal at all because they have
so much depth. They had already eleven or twelve guys
whim to be playing over him. It opens up another scholarship.
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Maybe they had another piece they feel can help. It's
kind of loaded. Maybe they go and get you know,
there's the freshman Brandon Hawthorne or incoming freshman who is
kind of a mid to high four star late bloomer
out of West Virginia, z committed when they had the
coaching change there. Maybe they maybe they pursued, they had
to visit with him. Maybe they kick the tires and
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go even heavier on him. It opens up another spot
and another chance to be creative from our poping company.
So I think at the end of the At the
end of the day, it's going to be a win
win for everyone.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
You know, they did such a great job. We've talked
about that.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Everybody has putting this team together that that played this
past year, and they were guys who just had so
much appreciation for being at Kentucky. Kobe Braham might have
been the best example of a guy was told early on,
you know, you're not good enough to play at Kentucky,
and I was always in the back of his mind,
and then by the time he got here, he was
so appreciative. Andrew Carr sim a lot of these guys.
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You gotta wonder, now, Aaron, the cynic in me wonders
are they going to be able to keep finding guys
like that in this day and age of big bucks
in the portal. I need playing time now, you know. Hey,
you know, hey, come be a part of Kentucky basketball.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah, what's it worse to me that kind of stuff?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (25:18):
Yeah? I completely agree. It's really hard. There's some really
good players that they pursued very hard out of the
transfer portal and they went other directions. Kentucky got outdid
you know, talking about Donovan Dent to point Grup from Mexico,
and then Lamar Wilkerson was kind of the big one.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
About a week ago today, right where he chooses Indiana,
goes on the field of sixty eight because he doesn't
want to go to Kentucky and just be another guy.
And what he meant by that is Kentucky had a
full roster at that point, Indiana had four players. He
can go to Indiana, get all the shots he wants
and get paid, you know, the higher amount. So they're
simply gonna be guys with those trains of thought. But
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I do still think there's a place for God, you know,
with Andrew car Kobe Brea, the Kentucky kids and Trenton
Travis's state of mind as well. And you just look
at some two of the guys they added through the
portal this year, Jade and Quaintance, and yeah, he's getting
paid handsomely, you know, top center in the transfer portal
and a guy who's probably gonna be a first round
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pick in next year's NBA draft. But he's a guy
that was committed to Kentucky out of high school. He
was a guy to play for John cal Ferry. From
everything I had heard around this time last year he
was very interested in keeping his commitment, and it was
more so Mark Pope and the staff wanting to just
kind of start fresh and kind of remove remove themselves
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from the Caliperry era, get a fresh start going. And
now that he gets back in the portal, like, he's
getting recruited heavily by Auburn who's coming off a trip
to the Final four, and you know, those are kind
of the two schools zooking it out.
Speaker 9 (26:56):
And I heard.
Speaker 7 (26:58):
The money was pretty much the same, and he picked
Kentucky because he loved it here when he first committed
and he's always wanted to play here, so you know
that still exists. And then with Denzel Aberdeen the transfer
from Florida, Jacob Poulichek, who wrote a great story about
it in an interview with his dad, where basically Denzel
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didn't want to necessarily leave Florida, but Kentucky was his
green school growing up, and when the opportunity came up,
he couldn't pass it down. So there is still some
of that out there, but definitely it's definitely when there's
crazy dollars being torn around and playing time is you know,
there's only so many spots on so many teams. You know,
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it's harder to find those kids, but they're still out there.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Speaking of the Portal, Boogie Flan leaving Arkansas for the
Portal but also intends to remain in the NBA draft
after that June fifteenth deadline, So I mean, why in
the world even bothered to enter the portal, but period
I did?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Did he expect him to be a first rounder?
Speaker 9 (28:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (28:04):
I mean, look, it is interesting though, I think it
probably is just an insurance policy got from He doesn't
get the feedback that he was expecting or what cal
Perry's clearly hinting out expecting there. I mean, he did
miss almost the whole SEC slate with a wrist injury.
He came back clearly wasn't quite one hundred percent during
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the NCAA tournament, So I don't know how scouts are
viewing him. I don't know what his medicals are showing.
And even when he played, I mean he played pretty well.
It wasn't like, uh, he was lighting it up and
looked like a surefire lottery are Yet I think he
has that ceiling. So with that, Arkansas's current roster construction.
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They have various sakhoff of Miss Donald's all American point
guards coming in. DJ Wagner's coming back for his junior year. Uh,
there's not really a spot for Boogie Flann there at all.
So if your boogie flanned, if you do end up
having to go back to college, makes sense to open
up your options because Arkansas has moved on, and as
they should have, they had to, They had to prepare
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for that. All all indications were this time last year
Boogie was going to be a one and done lottery pick,
and you know, he stills a chance to be.
Speaker 9 (29:14):
A first rounder entered the draft, so uh.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
You know, you got to keep the keep the options open.
And really that's what you're going to see, or that's
what you see with a lot of these guys you
know who have their names in the NBA Draft. I
mean there was a kid from UiB that Yachtall Lendenberg
that Kentucky went at pretty hard and then kind of
pulled off of uh.
Speaker 9 (29:33):
That ended up in Michigan.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
I mean, he's going to make uh Dusty May and
that's statsweat up until that May twenty eighth deadline. Jaron
Pierre and Jacksonville State, and you know, Kentucky was kind
of in the same boat waiting on Jackson Robinson this
time last year. So you know, we'll see what Boogy
ends up doing. But it makes sense open your options.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Well and more.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
With Aaron gershan of the cash Balls, he after a
break here on six thirty w l a F welcome back.
We're talking and Aaron Gershawan he covers the Cats for
the Cat's Boss football, baseball, basketball, he does it all.
We were talking about the portal with regard to basketball
the football Cats.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
One got away.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Jalen Stone, who was a d lineman at Southeast Missouri
State at the FCS Level one double A, decided at
the last minute to go to Vanderbilt and from from
everything I'd heard, Kentucky thought they were in pretty good
shape with him.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Six two eighty eight was.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
A three star coming out of high school, but has
obviously improved and now he's going to be a common
or how surprised should we be about this.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
In the portal era? Nothing surprisingly, It takes one good
offer and that you could not be on the radar
to landing a commitment. Yeah, that's kind of what seems
to have happened here with Stone. I know he had
an Oklahoma visit earlier this week and he got through
it without committing. And he's supposed to be at Kentucky
Friday thor Sunday, So Kentucky probably felt pretty good internally
that he got out of Norman without you know, choosing them.
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But you know, Vandy step stuff and gets their guys.
So that's just that's the nature of the Beast nowadays.
Not too surprising, And to be honest with you, I
was already not with him in particular. And I know
you can never have enough D line depth, but you know,
Kentucky as things currently, Sam will only have two or
three more.
Speaker 9 (31:17):
Spots scholarship wise available.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
I feel like that's a position they're better off. And
then maybe inside linebacker where they really really need to
get somebody. I don't know if they're going to, but man,
are they sinning there or even quarterback. I mean, if
you have an injury there, you're talking about getting really
sinned inexperience. So you know, maybe it's a blessing in
disguise where you can go and use that scholarship for
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something maybe of greater need. But yes, you know they've
clearly had a visit set up and probably bummed to
lose him through to an SEC rival there.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yeah, that's the other thing.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Not only do they lose him, but they got to
play against him, right And people know Vandy beat Kentucky
last year, and don't forget Vandy finished the year by
winning a bowl game for the first time in change years.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
And they've won two it a three against Kentucky going
back to twenty two. So yes, unfortunately for Kentucky, the
momentum is shifted in that series. And you know that
was you know, the rous stone. But also you know
for Kentucky, Vanderbilt recruiting had to head Shaziah Pee that
was down to Vandy in Kentucky it sounded like and
Kentucky very badly needed that left tackle. So yeah, it
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is what it is that's important to give this take
a type deal.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Yeah, I'm want to jump back to basketball for just
a minute. What is Denzel Aberdeen give Mark Pope? Because
I thought that was a really interesting movie. Goes from
a national championship team to within the conference to basically
an arch rival.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
Yeah, it's fascinating how that all happened. But I think
he just gives them one. He sits just such a
position of need, which or if they have a second
like experience ball handler, not that you know Tom Chandler
is the capable of handling the ball. Shore Shaff Johnson
capable of handling the ball. Sure, but you know those
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guys Chandler doesn't as to do it all that much.
Last year, Jasper is going to be a true freshman.
You know, you had to add another one to help
Jalen Lowe out there.
Speaker 9 (33:20):
And you know Aberdeen.
Speaker 7 (33:21):
Does that, and you know he could play off the ball,
and he's really really good in catch and shoot situation.
He's not a great shooter off the drive or off
the dribble, but he's great in catch and shoot situation.
So he just gives you a versatile weapon in that backcourt,
and he gives you a winner. I mean, he won
a high school state championship in the seven A level
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down in Florida as a prep kid out of Orlando. Obviously,
just won the NCAA Tournament at Florida, won the SCC
tournament at Florida. It's helped Florida get to the He
had his breakout game actually was as a sophomore last
season when Florida was a sixth seed in the SEC tournament.
They gets to the semifinals and he dropped twenty seemingly
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out of nowhere on Texas A and M to get
pored in the title game there. So you know, he's
a guy who has tons of tons and tons of
postseason experience and has excelled in those moments. And I
guess another guy is going to be fearless. You know,
great length at six to five in the backboard so
fits everything. Kentucky was looking for experience, proven winner, good
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shooter and got some really good length A few.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Minutes left with Aaron Gershan as a cast balls. Let
me shift to the baseball. You covered last night's Louisville game.
None of us expected that kind of outcome given the
way these teams played two weeks ago, but that was
in the freezing cold.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
This was a perfect night for baseball.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
But you've been able to cover more baseball since basketball ended,
just in time to watch this Kentucky team eraon. It
looks like really build confidence and start to play its best.
Speaker 7 (34:50):
Yeah, they're they're fun. They're looking like an NCAA tournament team. Now.
I don't think if any of us could have said
that for sure, just it's so frustrating. It that jumps
off the page is they have led in seventeen of
eighteen SBC games and the one lost that in the
one game they lost trailed start to finish was Texas,
the third game of the series, and they only lost
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that game by our run. So they're losing these close games,
they're blowing leads and it's all sorts of frustration. And
then you know, you go down to Tennessee, you lose
game one, okay, and Nick McKay shoves in game two
and they you know, the offense is able to get
some in shuring frons you win that game. And really
same thing in game three where Ben Cleever really shuts
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down Tennessee. I think he had maybe had give up
a two run homer and that was it. And then
Kentucky has insurance late. And then yesterday, every time Louisville
kind of made a run, I think they scored three
in the fifth and cut it down to five, Kentucky
just kept tacking on insurance runs. And they're they're finding
ways to win games now where they felt like they
were finding ways to lose games where the offense would
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kind of go cold in the later innings and the
bullten would really struggle to hold up in the last
three games. You know, take not the bullpen being obviously
you know, shut games down to Tennessee. But last night
the story was the offense just a relentless attack and
putting a ton of insurance funds on the board, to
the point that Louisville shifted their first basement onto the
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mound and kind of waves the right white flag there.
Speaker 9 (36:19):
So yeah, it was a.
Speaker 7 (36:20):
Really good night. And this program is tending in the
right direction at the right time. I mean, I think
they were in the mid forties and the RPI before
they went down in Knoxville and that seven yeah, yeah,
thirty twenty seven. Yeah, I saw twenty seven right after
the game. So yeah, so they're you know, they're probably
on pace to be a two seed in the regional
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and you know, just how big of a deal would
it be to make the tournament this year? Was you know,
all they lost in last year's roster, Like, the program
has never been to the NCA Tournament three years in
a row, and if they're able to do that this
year with everything they lost and to be honest to
deficiencies they have. That's super impressive stuff right there.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Yeah, and again a brutally tough schedule. And and something
that Nick Minjione told us on the air last night
is these new kids, the guys who transferred in through
the portal, and there are a lot of them, are
now just starting to figure things out.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
And that's what it takes, especially at the.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
SEC level, right, no question about it, no question about it.
Speaker 9 (37:21):
It's it's the.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
Toughest league there is in college baseball by quite a margin.
And you know a lot of you can look at
where a lot of these transfers from this year's team
specifically are from, and they haven't come really close to
what they're facing.
Speaker 9 (37:36):
Now.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
You're talking about some kids in the MAC, you're talking
about kids from the Missouri Valley, like it is just
a different beast here in the SEC, and they're starting
to get the hang of it. And the starting pitching.
You know, the big thing that Kentucky has that even
some teams in the SEC don't is Mick McCain. Ben
Cleaver is a one two punch. I know, I'm not
quite sure why he does the thing where McKay doesn't
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start on Fridays. But the best things are here or there.
But those two guys are a one two. I mean
that that's a kentuckting the team. You don't want to
play in a regional just because of those two guys.
I mean, those two guys are the real deal.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Mkay, I believe was the Friday starter for a while
but began to struggle. Yeah, now he's looking more alive. Yeah,
you know, now he's looking more like the guy that
they expected.
Speaker 7 (38:20):
Hey, yeah, do what you got to do to get
him comfortable. But yeah, I mean even I was. I
looked at Tony Vtello's transcript and he, you know, he
said the same thing that you know, those two guys
in Mkay and Cleaver. That's as good as a combo
in the sec.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Yeah it is right now. He is Aaron Gershawn. He
is the beat writer for The.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Cat's Pause covers football, baseball, basketball. Follow him on Twitter
or x at a Gershwan ninety nine. Thank you, Sarah,
I hope you get to slow down a little bit,
But I don't count on it.
Speaker 9 (38:47):
Don't count on it.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Up next to our number two, Sean Woods, the unforgettable
guard who is now the new head boys basketball coach
at Scott County High School along with Western.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
BUREACHIU Geary Moore. That's ahead on six thirty.
Speaker 10 (39:10):
Such tacking anything.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Welcome back to the Big Blue Sader And every Wednesday,
scheduling permitting, we chat with unforgettable guard Sean Woods is yours.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
He hangs in the rafters of rupp Uh.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
He has coached extensively at the college level, but now
we must address him as coach.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Sean Woods, the head coach at Scott County High School. Hey, congratulations, man.
Speaker 9 (41:13):
Appreciated, Dick. You know, never thought I'd be coaching high school,
but you know, I'm looking forward to this opportunity. Uh,
you know, as everyone knows, I'm a coach, you know,
and I'm passing about you know, enhancing you know, young
men through basketball and and uh, you know, uh had
some other opportunities, but I just felt like, you know,
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I can make a much bigger impact, you know, in
a situation that that's that's thirsty and has success and
and uh, you know, it's just a new saga in
my life and and and and and really looking forward
to it.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
You know, people don't know this, but when you and
I were chatting one day off the air. Uh And
as I've mentioned more than once, you've been doing a
lot of broadcasting over the past year for Glcott. You've
covered a lot of high school basketball.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
You're at the sweet sixteen. You really got about high
school basketball.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
You had a great high school career, and you told
me kind of offhand a few months ago, you know,
maybe you'd like to get involved at the high school level.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
How much did that affect you, Sean, when when you
were around that that.
Speaker 9 (42:14):
Atmosphere, Well, it rejuvenated me. Is just you know, being
around it, talking about it, analyzing it. You know, I
had to you know, do my homework and all these
teams that I was you know, commentating about, and it
got my juices backflowing. You know, it got me back
into scouting, got me back into doing you know, detail
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info and then watching high school basketball, and you know,
coaching is coaching, you know, And that's what I realized,
you know. You know, even though it's more money at
the at the at the college level, so on and
so forth, but when you have a passion for for something,
no matter what the pay is, it just it's who
you are. And that's who I am and you know,
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this is an opportunity. It's it's a very unique situation
because it's not just a public school, it's a it's
a school that really gets, you know, basketball, who has
a passion for Basketball's community that I'm very familiar with.
And you know, they're Thurston for winning. They you know,
the other school in the county won the state championship
this year, and you know, it was just a great
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it was just a perfect fit. You know, the administrators
there in Scott County are awesome. You know, they are
on board with the vision that I've had and have
and it was almost like a match made in heaven. Man.
I mean, God works in mysterious ways. And it was
just a situation that just smacked me in the face.
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It was like, hey, this is what it is. And
I didn't second guess it. You know, when the opportunity came,
I went for it and uh, you know, look look out,
we know we're here now.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Well, and yeah, it's it's it's a tough situation now
because as you said, great Crossing jumps up wins the
state championship. Scott County struggled this past year. Back in
the day Scott County. Was it in that county as
you know. And now some kids are going to Great Crossing,
some are going to Scott County. But the tradition is there,
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isn't it for Scott County.
Speaker 9 (44:16):
High Oh, no doubt about it. You know. I think
what happened was and it's just like anything else. You know,
when a talent comes in as a seven footage that's
very very rare. You know you're going to get that.
You know, Scott County got. Had they got Malachy Marino,
it'll have been still Scott County. Yeah, you know, but unfortunately,
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you know, Billy Hicks left. You know, Steve was you
know those guys, you know, middle school coach, they had
a great relationship with him. When he moved up to
the high school level, they followed. And with a great
player like that, you know, other kids are going to
follow because they want to play with a great player
like that, you know what I'm saying. So that was understandable.
Now the time is great for me because oh that's over.
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You know, man, don't hit. He's gonna be big, He's
gonna be a Kentucky. So we're starting back from scratch
square one. So uh, you know, I don't have to
worry about that, you know now. You know it's about
you know, me and Scott County starting our own legacy
again from scratch, and you know it's it's almost like
an even playing field, you know within the county.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
Yeah, well you mentioned that that it was a perfect fit.
You know, your your passion and your vision for the school.
What what is that, Sean? How did you sell them
on your brand of basketball, your brand of coaching?
Speaker 9 (45:36):
Well, they did all their homework. I'll tell you what. Man,
I Billy Parker, who's who's a great guy. Uh, you know, shoot,
if I needed a GM, he'd be the first person
that I'd hire. Uh he's a he's a county superintendent.
And also D T. Wales, who's the county a d.
I mean I opened the floodgates, you know. I gave
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them every person that knew me, who knew my career,
you know, to reach out to them and ask them
about me. And they did that. You know, they they
they you know, raised up every rock, you know everything.
They I mean, they know me better than I know
myself as far as what other people think of me.
And you know, they did their due diligence because they
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wanted to know, you know, everybody you know, you know
don't know what exactly, you know, what I was accused of,
you know, years ago at Morehead and that was a
big question mark because I haven't lived here, you know,
i'n't been around the twenty five years. The only thing
they remember about me is you know, having a great
coach career Morehead and then it ended because of something
that I was accused of. And you know, they got
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a chance to talk to the ad who was at
the school at the time at Morehead, they got a
chance to talk to all my assistants, got to talk
to people who knew who knew me and who I
worked for and with after that, and they came up with.
You know, what they came up with was nothing. And
they knew how talented I was as a coach and
the success that I've had. You know, once they got
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past that, you know that that was nothing there. You know,
now the rest is you know, you know, there's a
reason why we you know, he's available West Scott County
because if that does not happen, you know, I'm not
accused of that. Shoot, you know, I'm at NC State
or something like that. So you know, God has a
way of putting you in a place where you can
make significant impact. And I'm just fortunate to be the
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steward and be seglected. Is that to be that, because
that's what I am. I I you know, I love
coaching young kids and young men. And I started my
career coaching the Eastern Junior proh yeah, yes. And it
all started with Wayne Martin and his kid and my
son and some of the best players do in that era.
And that's why I started that, and that's why I
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you know, I shoppened my teeth and uh, you know,
I'm more than a basketball coach. People don't understand, you know,
I'm I'm a mentor. I've been there, done that, and
now you know, I used to always talk about high
school coaches on what they didn't do from a fundamental
standpoint of teaching young men the bass of basketball, even
though they're talented. Now I get an opportunity to do that.
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So it's a match made in heaven, you know, I
can you know, and and you know how my career
has gone. You know, I've always been chasing and as
successful as I've been at the schools that I've been
at They've been very hard situations. Oh yeah, and I'm
at a place in my life now with my wife
and I you know, she's looking, you know, she's like Sean.
You know, you you've proven yourself. You know, it's unfortunate
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that you didn't get the opportunities as other guys have gotten.
But you still want to leave a legacy somewhere and
we need to, you know, be able to you know,
place our feet in the sand and leave a mark.
And this this is maybe your opportunity to do so.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
I was going to ask you that you were a
Mississippi Valley State. You became a national headline when you
took that school to the Inside Tournament. There's there's it
seems like every year there's there's a team like that that,
you know, the little team that could to have nots
to jump up and make a mark like that, and
that obviously that was a boost to your career. But
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that that truly is you will know, no disrespect one
of the have nots in college basketball.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
You know, that's where Jerry Rice went to school and
all that.
Speaker 4 (49:13):
But and you know morehead State has battled for everything
it's ever needed.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
You were at Southern, you now.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
You're at Scott County with a nice facility and as
you said, great tradition, great backing, so you're not trying
to dig out at this place. I know they had
a poor year this season, but you know you got
a lot going for you there that had to make
it so attractive it did.
Speaker 9 (49:39):
You know, And I'll tell you what I mean, it's
almost a better job than two of the jobs that
I had, you know what I'm saying, Just yeah, and
that's refreshing, you know, And you know, you're not worried
about the bottom line. You just worry about making an
impact with kids. And when you do it the right way,
especially at high school, good things happen. And you know,
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I know a you know, once we get it going,
we'll be able to attrack some of the stage finance
and some of the country's finance. And then that's why
I'm trying to get it to to where not only
to be one of the best teams in the state,
but you know, a national name like it had been
when when when coach Itch was there, So you know,
everything's lined up. I'm just happy to have an opportunity
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to be the guy and get it to back to
where it was. I mean, you know, I'm not gonna
treat it any different than I did in college. You know,
I'm gonna work my butt off, and you know my
thing was to never never let anybody else outwork me.
And shoot, I'm working hard already, and you know, just
to be back in the saddle. Uh, it is a blessing.
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And you know, it's a different type of mindset, it's
a different type of job, but it's it's I think
right now, in my mind, it could be more rewarding
because I'm making a bigger impact, not just with my
team and the varsity, but just the young people in
the community of Scott County. You know, I look forward
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to to reaching out to the and develop and even
the middle school and the elementary school, you know, because
that's what I that's who I am, Dick, and my
roots started here at coaching little kids, so I have
a passion for that. You know, the world has changed
a little bit, but I'm looking forward to the adjustment
and having a good time with it.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
He is Sean Wood was the new head coach at
Scott County High and of course one of the unforgettables.
We'll talk more basketball on the other side of the
break here on six thirty WLAP Welcome back with chatting
with Shawn Woods, the Unforgettable Guard. He is now the
head coach at Scott County High School, so new things
to deal with with younger folks. But you know you'll
be counseling people and one of the headlines when it
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comes to the portal this morning, coach, and earlier, I
guess it was later last night. You and I have
talked a lot about the Wildcats and Travis Perry, who
at the last minute puts his name into the portal,
and you and I have talked about the fact that
he's got a long way to go to compete at
the level of Kentucky competes.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
That I got to wonder, were you.
Speaker 4 (52:09):
Surprised at all that he chose that rap because it
looked like he was.
Speaker 3 (52:12):
Coming back and he still might. But clearly they've recruited
over him.
Speaker 9 (52:18):
No doubt about it. And we have to you know,
you know, but he's a Kentucky kid. You know, you
got the uniform, you know, But you know, Mark's got
to do what he's got to do, you know, and
and he's got to create, he's got to you know,
go o recruit the best so we can be able
to compete for national SEC championships and national championships. You know,
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Travis had a decision to make, and he you know,
the decision is do I sit here and enjoy the
ride and after I graduate, I can you know, still
be an important part of the community, the state of
Kentucky community and be successful burgess wise, you know, or
do I love play more at this particular time in
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my life and want to you know, and feel like
I have, you know, a lot to give to the
game of basketball, but just having an opportunity to play
at a lower level to where I can really have
some success. And that's the choice that he's making right now.
And you know, just because he's at Kentucky, just because
he's a Kentucky kid, you know, doesn't mean that the
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universe of Kentucky is the right fit for him from
a from a playing standpoint. But you know, you got
the opportunity, You earned the right, you know, with the
high school career that you had. Now it's you know,
I think he's a kid that wants to play, you know,
and you can't, you know, and he's a competitor and
you can't knock that.
Speaker 3 (53:41):
No, you can't.
Speaker 4 (53:43):
Players want to play, no question about that. And yeah,
and when he got his chance to contribute, he did
at times, and at times he was overmatched. But like
I said, it's it's a as you point out, it's
a potentially life changing decision. You had to make that
choice as a high school senior. I sometimes wonder if
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people realize. I remember hearing a football recruit talking about
this kid seemed incredibly mature for his age about his
college choice, and he said, Uh, it's going to determine
the rest of my life. It's going to probably determine
who I marry, you know, things like that. Have a wow,
this kid's gone deep on this.
Speaker 3 (54:22):
Uh. And it couldn't have been easy for him, right, No.
Speaker 9 (54:25):
You know, and I'm sure you know I can. I
can see him right now. He in his dad and mom,
you know, sitting there contemplating you know what I'm saying,
the pros and cons. Yeah, you know, because three four
years comes back comes real quick.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
Yeah. Yeah, dad's his coach.
Speaker 9 (54:44):
His dad was his high school coach, right and you
want to, you know, see where you can fit in
for the rest of your life, you know, And this
is a life, life changing situation here in the decision.
And you know I've been there, you know, I. You
know I I you know when we were you know,
when I was recruited and that year that's when we
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got hit with that probation. That's when we got hit
with the investigation. And when it went down after writing
during my vice freshman year and I was actually sitting
out that year, I had some real decisions to make,
and my mom just told me straight up, she said,
you're staying, you know, she said, you cann You're gonna
You're gonna weather this storm. This is the first time
as a young man, just time to grow up and
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and and face the fire and handle some type of
adversity and make the best of it. And it was
the best decision I ever made. You know, who would
have thought that my jerseysy be retired? Who thought that
I have to have an impact with three other men?
Where actually more than that to to to to have
that impact at the universe of Kentucky when it was
at the lowest peak of his entire makeup. So I
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I I don't envy him at all, But if he
does make whatever decision he made by putting this stuff
in in the portal. I give him kudos because that's
a that's a major decision. Uh. And he's got to
think of him. He's got to think for him, you know,
what's best for him. And that's why I respect it,
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you know what I mean. It's not you know what
everybody else thinks. It's about what he thinks because it's
his life. And I would love to see him wearing
at eleven again, you know what I'm saying for the
rest of his career because I like him as a person.
But you know, if he wants to go play and
play a lot of minutes, then he needs to go,
you know. But if he stays, he knows he's not
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gonna play that much. But he can still be a
fixture in the folklore you know of Kentucky basketball and
and live a happy life when it's all said and done,
because you know he's gonna be taken care of and
you know, get a decent job and being good business
when he graduate. So you.
Speaker 4 (56:53):
Interrupted, But do you think the portal situation has I
don't know if enhanced is the word, but intensified that
that feeling of self. You know, these kids now They're
almost forced to think more about themselves as opposed to, Hey,
I can go to this school and be a part
of something with these other guys who have signed and
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the other guys that are on the roster, and we together,
we can do this. Now, it seems like the portal
is forcing kids to think even more about themselves. And
you've got to start with yourself obviously, But you know,
it's it's almost like a pilum mentality.
Speaker 3 (57:30):
Do you see it that way?
Speaker 9 (57:33):
I mean, it's like what guys think in the NBA.
You know, you once you get there, it's a business,
and now college athletics has become a business. It's about
what can I how can I maximize who I am
financially in this situation? And it's unfortunate, it's almost nasty.
It's not pure anymore, and you know it's hard to grasp.
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I mean I went to the final four man and
not one coach was happy.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 9 (58:05):
You know, and that almost helped my decision on really
pursuing the sky Cannon situation. Really, you know, is money
worth all this headache and heartbreak? And you know, you know,
I like to coach. I like to get people to
buy into being prideful. Where is the pride anymore? You know?
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The Benjamins doesn't have pride. Benjamin's does not have pride?
Benjamins is what can you do for me? And for
me as a coach. I'm just old school, you know,
And you know, and the minute I think you're selfish,
the minute I think it's about you, that's hard to coach.
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And that's what we're doing right now. You know, they're
talking about Kentucky right now. You know the their roster
is worth twenty million dollars, ye million dollars. You know
now you really you know the handlers of these people,
the parents of these people. You know, not only is
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the twenty million dollars, but now you're getting it, you
get more calls, you know what I'm saying from parents
and handlers about playing time, what they look like, so
on and so forth. I mean, it's it's a lot
more to juggle. You know, where's the national chair to
compete for national championship come into play? Where does it
compete for the SEC championship? Come into play? Where is it?
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You know? The pride? You know? And that's what I
was I keep bragging on Mark Pope about what he
put together this past year. As far as you know,
the mentality of these guys being bought in, right, right,
that's gonna be hard to do every year when you
you know, when you know, you can't get a kid
unless you pay him X amount of dollars. He ain't
worried about Kentucky the tradition. He's worried about how much
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money am I getting.
Speaker 4 (59:57):
You have got to get the right kids in there.
Every coach, but every coach is dealing with that. Well,
it has been quick. We'll talk again, but congrats again
once again on the Scott County job. Shawn Woods, the
unforgettable guard now the head coach of the Scott County Cardinal.
Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Your cardinal, Sean.
Speaker 9 (01:00:16):
Hey, did you see me on BBN the other night.
You know I'm a cardinal, but I'm a Scott Catty,
Scott County cart County cardinal. If you look at the deal,
it has six teeth in his mouth. Okay, the other
cardinal does it?
Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
Okay, all right, I'm glad you pointed that out. All right, coach,
we'll talk next week.
Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Thanks.
Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
So happy for Sean. I know he wanted to get
back into coaching. He was kind enough to send me.
I didn't know this was happening, but he texted me
the front page of the Georgetown newspaper, which had a
little teaser up in the corner, and then the front
page of the sports section with his picture on it,
saying that he had been hired as the new head
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coach of the Cardinals. So Scott County, it's gonna be
interesting to see if they can bounce back from six
to twenty one. Western Bureau Chief Gary Moore next six
thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Big bluin Cider. It
is Wednesday, which means we will look west to the
other end of I sixty four to our West End
Bureau chief, Gary Moore, longtime West Coast Bureau chief, and
he's moved from Los Angeles to LA the Louisville.
Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Area where we chat with him every week.
Speaker 11 (01:01:27):
Dude, two guys in a six pack, and ladies and gentlemen.
This is our annual final mock draft episode where we
run off the audience by predicting all seven rounds and
all two hundred and fifty seven.
Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Smoke him if you got him all craft.
Speaker 11 (01:01:41):
We don't have time for that, Okay, T minus twenty
four hours and change until the most tedious three and
a half hours in all of sports. Round one and
only Round one of the NFL Draft tomorrow night, eight
to eleven thirty pm. If you can stay awake on
ABC and on ESPN and on the NFL Network live
from U sure, beloved lambeau Field stockholder, you it's all
(01:02:04):
we're gonna do here, And swig number one is just
pick draft choice number one, pretending that you and I
are both the Titans general manager, because they still have
as of right now at the number one pick. Now,
if I'm the GM of Tennessee, first of all, I'm
living down in Belle Mead. Boy, that's a nice area
and it's gorgeous down there. And with our first pick
in the draft, I'm gonna take the best, most talented
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quarterback that is obviously cam Ward. Why well, he seems
to think faster than my current guy, Will Levis, because
he's put up some monster offensive numbers consistently down there,
and he's done it running.
Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Around a lot.
Speaker 11 (01:02:40):
And that's another reason I would take him, because of
my porous o line. So he's gonna have to scramble
a hell of a lot here in the first year,
who you're gonna take at number one?
Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Yeah, I think you have to take Ward because you
need a QB.
Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
They've given up clearly on will Levis, although interestingly they
fired a Vrabel as head coach because he was not
fully by.
Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Hind Will Levis. But anyhow, Yeah, this kid's gonna have
the same.
Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
Problem the Lewis had, although maybe he makes better decisions.
Levis forced too many plays and made too many turnovers.
But the biggest problem Gary, in my mind, is that
let's say you take Abdul Carter, or you taking you know,
a defensive player or whatever, there aren't any qbs out
there who could really help you in the immediate future.
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And I'm looking right at you, Aaron Rodgers, You're not
the answer either. If there were somebody out there in
the free agent world, and.
Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
They would have made that move by now.
Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
But they have made no secret, the Titans, about the
fact that they're not going to move that number one pick.
Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
So it looks like they're committed to a QB. And look,
you'll sell some tickets, right sure, part of.
Speaker 11 (01:03:46):
It our second swig in the six packs. So another
week of NBA playoffs. Man, they're getting physical out there.
We saw some of that last night. Man, elbows are
flying all over the place. Another week to actually give
a rats rump about the association for me. So we
got three big games Tony Orlando, Boston, Miami at Cleveland,
and my Warriors at Houston. And also this week another
mindless moment. I know you've talked about it from Dallas
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general manager for now Nico Harrison, who said on Monday,
quote I did know that Luca was important to the
fan base, I didn't quite.
Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Know it to what level.
Speaker 11 (01:04:20):
Unquote talk about being so far in the frame you
can't see the picture. Can you even imagine red auerback
miscalculating to a Celtics fan's love of Larry Bird or
Jerry West, not knowing how popular Magic or Kobe was
to all the fans. Now, remember and besides Luca, let's
not forget Harrison, let some kid name Jalen Brunson escape
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to New York. Yeah, a couple of years ago, Sacramento
in Atlanta just fired their gms. They didn't say anything
nearly as stupid as Harrison. So how does this guy
still have a gig? Is it because he's got this
huge extension? They still owe them a lot of money
that he signed last summer after the championship run.
Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Gotta be I just read a piece in The Athletic
about this whole dynamic and Mark Cuban, And of course
we know that if Cuban had still been the guy
in charge, that this likely would.
Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Not have happened. Although when Cuban sold, he was.
Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
Supposedly going to help make basketball decisions.
Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Cuban and Nico. Well, now it's Nico and Cuban, but.
Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
There's also Gary, a long list of mistakes made by
Cuban and by the Mavericks of great players they have
not drafted. You referred to Jalen Brunson. He's not the
only one, but this is clearly the dumbest move. And
I really believe that Harrison was trying to minimize, you know,
his damaging role. And I like what Charles Barkley, Oh
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I Love on TNT said, just, you know, stop talking,
just to shut up.
Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
You made a mistake, own it. Stop. But this guy
can't seem to get out of his own way. Third
swig in the six backs.
Speaker 11 (01:06:01):
Speaking of reading the room illiteracy, did you see the
tweet that UCLA Football sent out welcoming new quarterback banknote Nico.
They had Nico in a UCLA uniform wearing the same
number that he wore last year at Tennessee, number eight.
Just one problem, that number was retired years ago after
it was worn by former Brewin star and Hall of
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Famer some guy named Troy Aikman. Suffice to say, a
lot of Brewin fans were already unhappy with the school
welcoming a kid who apparently held out for more dough
and then bolted way late in the spring, almost screwing
up that Orange.
Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
School's quarterback sitch.
Speaker 11 (01:06:36):
Until because we've seen the quarterback UCLA had already signed
from app State, Joey Aguilarp said, f this went and
signed with the Vols an nil trade for an nil trade.
Basically your pal. Bill Plashke also sent out the welcome
wagon in his latest La Times column with the headline
Nico yalim well, I can't pronounce his last name, Nico
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joining uc everybody loses now besides Nico signing with UCLA
after he signed with the Balls. You've got more on
this a little bit later on. But Nico's little brother
is also coming to Westwood. Maybe maybe after a couple
of months at Arkansas. Full disclosure here, I did some
postgraduate studies at UCLA, and yeah, this all feels really
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slimy to me. But you know, I also recall Troy
Aikman also transferred to UCLA from Oklahoma, but that was
about Switzer's wishbone offense, not about a gold digging punk here.
But this, I got a bad feeling about this, dick.
You know what football karma can be, Like, we'll see
what happens in the fall.
Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
Aikman never should have signed with Oklahoma in the first place,
if you're back to that, because of that offense, as
you said, And yeah, we talked earlier about Nico's brother Madden,
but yeah, this is an interesting sub chapter in the
world of college sports, the chapter about nil and the
portal and all that. And now, as I mentioned earlier,
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Arkansas's pushing back, and I'm certain Arkansas doesn't want to
keep this kid, but you know, the collective like, hey,
what about our money? You never played a game, and
you know it's going to wind up in front of
a judge somewhere or at least in depositions and all that.
But yeah, I just have a hard time seeing how
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this is going to work out for UCLA, and I
think Agilar is going to be the winner because you
talk about a quarterback friendly offense at Tennessee, right, Yeah, and.
Speaker 11 (01:08:29):
He's got a great coach who was a quarterback obviously,
and we'll go from there. Yeah, let's see here forth
Swig and the six backs. Speaking of that fugly Arne school,
shout out to the Batcats who went down I seventy
five over the weekend, took two out of three from
the then number two team in the nation, and then
last night out of Kentucky Proud Park early night for
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you never Cats needed only seven innings to throttle number
nineteen Louisville seventeen to five. Cards are baut rated fall
out of the top twenty five. Maybe after this weekend
they've got three with number ten Florida State starting out
here on Friday. UK goes for four in a row
Friday night, six thirty at Proud Park, first to three
with South Carolina, then they head down to Warren County
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and one with WKU. And speaking of the number seventeen Hilltoppers,
they abused Evansville last night in BG fourteen to four,
running their record thirty three and seven twenty four and
one at home on.
Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
The campus of WKU.
Speaker 11 (01:09:25):
It's gonna be your alma mater and mine might be
a game there next Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Something's got to give, Gabriel.
Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
Yeah, Kentucky now playing with a lot of confidence, obviously,
and really it started a.
Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Week ago with the comeback win over Miami.
Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
So basically they came from ahead, then came from maybe
not behind, but from a tie game and won a
walk off. But yeah, they played with so much confidence
against Tennessee. The pitching has come around. Now they're getting
the offense. We talked to one of the players after
the game last night. He said, we stopped worrying about
home runs and that just quality add bats, just trying
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to stack up what they call quabs, and it's working
for them. So you know, they've they've they flirted with
success so many times this year, so many close losses.
So now let's not discount the fact that the schedule
is letting up ever so slightly, relatively speaking.
Speaker 11 (01:10:20):
Agreed Fittswig and the six Pack. Let's talk minor league
baseball here in the Commonwealth. Opening night for your Lexington
Legends on Friday night, yep let Legends Field over there
just off North Broadway. Postgame fireworks going to be happening
Friday night.
Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Then down in.
Speaker 11 (01:10:34):
Bowling Green on Saturday, Rot Row You meddling kids get
Scooby Doo Night at the Hot Rods game. That's a
four oh five in the afternoon. First pitch players are
going to be wearing these actually pretty cool Scooby Doo
jerseys that's going to be auctioned off to benefit the
Buddy House for down Syndrome. I've actually posted a photo
of the jerseys on next They did a pretty cool
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job with those. But you know, Dick, no good theme
night goes unpunished. In a crystal clear sign, the apocalypse
is still upon us. Our Louisville Bats over here Friday
night are apparently willingly hosting Pickleball Appreciation Night, pickled pickle
themed drinks. Thanks, I'll pass even if you're buying pickle
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themed food, And there's also a special ticket package that
will also punish you with a don't wait for it,
Bats pickleball paddle for something that isn't quite ping pong.
It isn't quite tennis, but it certainly has the most
annoying ball paddle sound. That is the antithesis of leather
hitting a Louisville slugger.
Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
Try appreciating that.
Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
Oh man, I have not given in to the pickleball craze.
Several friends of mine have here over in Lexion In
at Woodland Park. They renovated one of the tennis courts
and now it's a pickleball court. Look, it's people getting
out getting exercise. That's a good thing, I know, but
it's just right now, it's too much. And that's always
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the case. I think it's more than a fad. It's
a new sport quote unquote. But yeah, I can do
with that pickle lemonade, which is being offered to one
of the fast food franchises right now.
Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Now I'm my hometown of Murray. They just opened up
some brand new pickleball courts. Nice try tennis folks. Okay
if you.
Speaker 11 (01:12:21):
Sixth and final swig since you and I last spoke,
It was announced that former U of L and Indiana
football coach and the heart and soul of ESPN's College
Game Day League Corso, would be taking his final bow
on the first show of the twenty twenty five season.
It'll be August thirtieth, twenty three days after coach celebrates
his ninetieth birthday. Now, we've been kind of prepped for
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not seeing him on the panel the past couple of
years when he's had to miss shows for health reasons
or whatever. But it's still going to take them getting
used to not seeing them every week, and not just
because of the numbers. He's been there thirty eight years,
four hundred and thirty mascot headgear picks. That's a winning
percentage of sixty six and I have percent with a
perfect nineteen ninety nine season, but not so fast with
the numbers.
Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
It's more than that, way more than that. It's him.
It's the guy. It's the man's heart, his.
Speaker 11 (01:13:09):
Love not only for the game we all love, but
his love for people and the fans and humanity in general.
You can always tell that, You've always been able to
tell that over the years. That inferior knockoff pregame show
in Fox doesn't have anyone in the same personality area
code as League Corso the only question is does ESPN
retire the head wear picks. I think probably don't have
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to because you know, Dick, I can't imagine Nick Saban
putting on the head piece, putting on the head piece
of an Auburn Tiger. Given the odds of that team winning.
Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Maybe they let McAfee do it.
Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
I think people might accept that from him because he
is outrageous and you know, I'm with you, though, I
think that might be a bit that they need to retire.
Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
It was so much fun growing up in Louisville watching
Corso's teams play. He's a good football coach. He's put
together a really good program in Louisville.
Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
And here's all you need to know about Lee Corso
as a promoter and as a performer.
Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
His Coaches show, the theme.
Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
Music was Foggy Mountain Breakdown. I mean, if that didn't
get you excited, this is back when coaches shows were
the window to the team because generally it was the
only time you could see the video of most teams playing. Yeah,
he was a lot of fun to watch. He was
a lot of fun on ESPN. And I love the
fact that not so fast my Friends became a thing
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and it was something that was organic. It just happened
naturally and now as part of our lexicon, and that's
something I'm thankfully forever. People will think sports fans about
Lee Corso when they hear that or say that he
is Gary Moore, our West N Bureau chief will come
back with more in just a minute. On the Big
Blue Sider six thirty WLAP Welcome back, We're chatting with
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Gary Murrio as our West N Bureau chief. We heard
two guys in a six pack. Now time for a
couple of hot reads. And you know we're always.
Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
Banging on people. It seems like in this segment having
fun with it.
Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
But we need to really really tip our collective caps
to rock O Beckt. He is an Iowa state quarterback.
And we talked about these guys.
Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
You know, going for the money and you know this
guy might get sued and that guy ran out on
a team.
Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
This is a guy who used his nil earnings to
donate entertainment consoles to pediatric rooms at a hospital at
a medical center in Ames.
Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Iowa this week.
Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
Gary, And all I can say is, let's hope that
it leads to more of this kind of thing.
Speaker 11 (01:15:31):
I'm just going to say more of this, please. And
I love the fact that it's getting a lot of
good publicity because, as we know, publicize something good like that,
well I can do that with my money. Hey, that's
a great idea. Hey, why not, you know, and that's
kind of a ripple effect. Let's see more of that
kind of stuff happening, because we all know that these colleges,
you know, everybody's got a hospital nearby, a lot of
them are obviously at a lot of medical schools involved
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with that, and just good things in general that guys
are doing with money.
Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
I like to see that kind of matrure what a
good guy.
Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
Yeah, and it's by coincidence in the state of Iowa
where during University of Iowa football games.
Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
We've talked about this through the years.
Speaker 4 (01:16:09):
At one point, I think it's at the end of
the first quarter, everybody in the stadium, players included.
Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
The stadium's right next to the children's hospital. You've seen
the video.
Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
Everybody turns and waves at the kids who are all
watching the game through the windows of their hospital rooms.
Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
Actually, I get emotional just thinking about that. Yeah, I
agree with you.
Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
And you know, there are people who find I don't
know if distasteful is the right word, but they wonder
about people like John Caliperi, who was very public with
his charity work, and like, you know, a lot of
people think it's you know, hey, look at me.
Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
I'm a great guy. Whatever.
Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
That's fine, But what it might also do is prompt
somebody else to do it. Like you said, Yes, somebody
notices what this kid from Iowa State's doing and thinks, hey,
maybe I can do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
Follow the leaders on things like that. Yeah, follow the
charity leaders.
Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
Well, we have touched on this a little bit, but
Arkansas now at least a collective, and the school will
work with Arkansas Edge. I mentioned this earlier in the show,
is putting, as the headline said, putting Madden Iamalieva into
the crosshairs by encouraging the collective to try to get
(01:17:21):
back some of its money. Good and evidently, in reading
an article on cbsports dot com, this is not an
isolated incident of kids signing, taking the money, and then
you know, I need to move on. Thanks Bob, thanks
for the swell money by We're going to see more
of this, Gary, and it's going to get ugly before
(01:17:43):
it gets pretty.
Speaker 11 (01:17:45):
The confusing thing about this is we don't really see
any of the contracts, do we We don't know if
there's a clause that says you have to pay back
if you leave within this timeframe, and what I've been
able to read is that even if there is that
kind of language in there, it could be nullified. I'd
buy this house agreement that's going to be coming up
approval pretty soon, that involves all of the schools, and
(01:18:07):
as far as it was already supposed to have been approved,
I think by last week, by Good Friday, and now
it's going to be like maybe another couple three weeks,
maybe another month.
Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
We don't know.
Speaker 11 (01:18:16):
There's so much legal mumbo jumbo up in the air
about this. I know they're gonna get their money back.
I mean, it seems like it would be the right
thing to do if if players should have a buyout clause,
if the coaches have a buyout clause, right, you.
Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Would think so.
Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
But was odd is at least in some of these
agreements it doesn't include how much or even if you play.
Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
So I think if nothing else, will see some of
these deals rewritten. But again, no guardrails. That's the entire
problem with NIL and with the portal.
Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
They had to rush into this because of the Ed
O'Bannon case, and so now they're kind of trying to
figure it out as they go along, and that's no
way to deal with millions of dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
He is Gary More, He is our West End bureau chep.
Speaker 4 (01:19:01):
We traveled him each and every week and you can
follow his musings in rants on Twitter or x at.
Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
At nine to five five Gary, same joint you're at
yep at Big Blue Sider one. Thank you sir.
Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
Have a good week, have good week, Derby fun next
week and I am looking forward to that.
Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
That's gonna do it for this edition of the Big
Boon Sider.
Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
Thanks to coach Sean Woods to Gary Moore, to Aaron
Gersha and that said, good night from the garage in Lexington.
Speaker 9 (01:19:26):
What's going I say, what's going on here?
Speaker 7 (01:19:29):
Staying here with you?
Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Beak open, say something explaining yourself.
Speaker 9 (01:19:33):
Your tongue's flipping, but no noise that's coming on of
your big mob.
Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
Don't get out and stay out, scrash out.
Speaker 10 (01:19:40):
Air, take that, stain anything, do anything, Satan.
Speaker 9 (01:20:55):
Take that.
Speaker 10 (01:20:58):
Anything, but I think done. Dont doing the
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