The Not So Black and White Real Estate Podcast

The Not So Black and White Real Estate Podcast

Two Canadian guys interviewing multi - million dollar business owners that are setting the bar for their competition while giving back to the communities they love.

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June 24, 2025 19 mins

In this powerful episode of The Not So Black and White Real Estate Podcast, Sir Colin Campbell and Gary A. McGowan sit down with one of Canada’s top agents, Michael McDougall. They unpack what truly sets elite Realtors apart — and it’s not what you might think. From navigating tough markets to mastering your mindset, Michael shares raw insights, real-world stories, and the psychology behind consistent high performance. Whe...

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In this heartfelt episode of The Not So Black and White Real Estate Podcast, we sit down with East Coast powerhouse Mike Espiritu—Realtor, coach, and conduit of transformation—to unpack how empathy, storytelling, and language can redefine the client experience. From growing up with housing insecurity to becoming a top-producing agent and certified trainer under Phil M. Jones, Mike shares how he uses emotional intelligence,...

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In this episode of The Not So Black and White Real Estate Podcast, we sit down with sales legend Phil M. Jones to explore how the right words, asked the right way, can completely change your real estate conversations. From guiding hesitant buyers through tough decisions to helping agents build trust and clarity, Phil drops powerful, real-world scripts and mindset shifts. Whether you’re a Realtor, leader, or someone who jus...

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In this special episode of The Not So Black and White Real Estate Podcast, we take you inside the electric atmosphere of the KW Canada Gala 2024! 🏆🇨🇦


We sat down with award-winning Keller Williams agents from across the country to uncover the stories behind their success. From game-changing strategies to personal breakthroughs, this episode is packed with raw insight, inspiration, and real estat...

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In this episode of the Not So Black & White Real Estate Podcast, hosts Sir Colin Campbell and Gary A. McGowan sit down with Justin Jeffery, a top real estate team leader in Canada, to talk about his personal journey through burnout and how he rebuilt his leadership approach. Justin shares candid insights on the fast-paced nature of real estate, the mental toll it can take, and the importance of prioritizing health and ...

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September 26, 2024 16 mins

Join hosts Colin Campbell and Gary A. McGowan as they sit down with the inspiring Ana Marin, a successful real estate professional who has made waves in the industry. In this episode, Anna shares her journey from immigrant beginnings to becoming a prominent figure in the Canadian real estate scene.


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• Ana’s path from operations to leading a successful real estate team.


• The importance of wealt...

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In this compelling episode of the No So Black and White Real Estate Podcast, hosts Sir Colin Campbell and Gary McGowan sit down with Adam Pope, a remarkable individual who shares his extraordinary journey from the depths of drug and alcohol addiction to achieving success in the real estate industry.

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Adam opens up about his decade-long struggle with addiction, which led him through jails, hospitals, homeless shelte...

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This episode is featuring a special conversation with Bill Soteroff, president of Keller Williams Worldwide. Recorded live from a bustling Canadian real estate conference in Mississauga, this episode dives into the transformative world of real estate both globally and within Canada.

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Bill shares his invaluable insights on the expansive reach of Keller Williams across 57 countries and nearly 20,000 agents, high...

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In a dynamic episode recorded at the "For the Love of Real Estate" conference, Jay Papasan offers invaluable insights into achieving success in the real estate industry. Topics covered include his personal career growth, the importance of education and continuous learning, and the power of effective leadership. Jay also discusses his bestselling books like The ONE Thing and The Millionaire Real Estate Agent, which have inf...

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August 14, 2023 15 mins

Colin and I are coming to you live from Keller Williams Family Reunion, where we had the awesome opportunity to chat with Adam Hergenrother. He's not only an entrepreneur at heart, but also the Founder & CEO of Adam Hergenrother Companies. We dove deep into the topic of leadership and the incredible impact of being a positive example. Just like Adam, I'm a firm believer that focusing on personal growth and leadership l...

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Join Colin and Gary as they sit down for an exclusive interview with John Clidy, a prominent top leader within Keller Williams, a renowned real estate company. John, who has recently authored the inspiring book titled "Leaving 6 Figures," shares his invaluable insights and experiences in this captivating discussion.

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Filmed on location at the highly anticipated Keller Williams Family Reunion, this interview de...

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June 6, 2023 21 mins

Welcome to this exclusive interview with Eric Wainwright, the managing director behind Storeys.com, where we delve into the fascinating origin story and remarkable services of this game-changing platform. We uncover the incredible journey of Storeys.com and its commitment to serving the housing market.

From its humble beginnings, Storeys.com has evolved into a leading-edge solution provider, catering to the diverse needs o...

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May 24, 2023 18 mins

In this exclusive interview, Ryan Turnbull takes you on an insightful journey into the world of KW Command, the cutting-edge real estate technology platform developed by Keller Williams.

 

Ryan understands the crucial role technology plays in maximizing productivity and achieving success in the modern real estate landscape. Join us as we dive deep into the powerful features and capabilities of KW Command, showcasing how th...

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Join Colin Campbell and Gary McGowan at the Buzz Conference as they invite Daryl King, the esteemed Toronto realtor, for an exclusive interview on The Not So Black and White Real Estate Podcast. Discover the remarkable journey of Daryl King, from humble beginnings to becoming an unparalleled force in the Canadian real estate industry. Prepare to be inspired as they delve into his captivating story of triumph and uncover th...

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May 8, 2023 15 mins

Wendy Papasan, who runs the Papasan Properties Group and is the chairman of Her Best Life, a business that supports and amplifies women in business, shares her journey of building a community of like-minded businesswomen. After joining Entrepreneurs Organization (EO) and realizing there were only ten women out of 150 members, Wendy started her own circle with ten other female business owners. They met every six months in a...

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We interview one of Canada's Leading real estate professional Richard Silver !!!

Richard is 43 year real estate veteran who calls himself the ultimate early adopter and has jumped right into the world of AI and how it can benefit the industry.

 

Leading Silver Burtnick & Associates at Sotheby's International Realty Canada, Richard is designated as an ABR, e-PRO and a Certified International Property Specialist (CIPS). ...

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Paul Fitzpatrick, a real estate agent, discusses his decision to switch from running his own independent brokerage to joining Keller Williams. We also dive into the core of the simple statement said by Ed Mylet. The Power Of One, what will one more... do for you and your family.   Video Link   When asked about why KW? Paul mentions he was successful in his own business but felt that something was missing, a peer group...

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Welcome to our latest podcast episode featuring Tatiana Londono, a renowned entrepreneur, real estate expert, and philanthropist. In this interview, Tatiana shares her inspiring journey as a female entrepreneur, including how she started her real estate business and how she overcame the challenges that come with building a successful career. We delve into the world of real estate, discussing the current trends, tips on inv...

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Welcome to our latest podcast episode where we sit down with Julia Lashay Israel, the Head of Inclusion and Belonging at Keller Williams International. With over 20 years of experience in the field, Israel has trained and coached thousands of real estate professionals and is a well-known community leader and homeownership advocate.

In this episode, Julia shares her insights on recognizing and addressing diversity, equity, ...

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Aaron Kaufman on Growing a massive passive income through relationships and a HUGE value proposition.

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In this podcast, Aaron Kaufman from Keller Williams shares his insights on how to attract agents to the company through their amazing value proposition. Aaron Kaufman understands the importance of a strong value proposition and how it can make all the d...

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