March 12, 2025 • 35 mins
In this episode, Tudor welcomes Danica Patrick, a trailblazing figure in both racing and politics. They discuss Danica's unique journey from being a celebrated race car driver to her recent involvement in politics. The conversation touches on themes of women's empowerment, health advocacy, the importance of education, and the challenges posed by social media. Danica shares her insights on navigating trust in information and the vital role of family dynamics in shaping values. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Today is an awesome day because we have Danica Patrick
with us. I am so excited to have you here. Danica,
thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
My pleasure. Thank you so.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
In case you don't know, but you probably do, she's
a former NASCAR and IndyCar driver and the only woman
to ever win an IndyCar Series race, So we are
super excited to have This is like a woman podcast,
even though we have a lot of men listening. We
celebrate women on this podcast for sure.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Every day, good good, Well, I'm happy to do that.
It was just International Woman's Day, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
It was, Yes, it was, so we have more to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
But also we're celebrating you because you've had such an
interesting story just from the standpoint of you know, obviously
you do things that are are not the norm. I
mean it's not the norm for a young woman at
or a young girl at ten years old to start
racing and then become a NASCAR driver and IndyCar driver.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
But also in the political world.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I was reading your story and I'm like, no way,
this is the first time you voted.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yeah, I mean the first political event I ever went
to was Amfest. I live in Scottsdale, so it's here
in town, and it's Charlie Kirk's big event. And it
was December of twenty twenty three. That was the first
political event I ever went to. It probably makes me
look bad, but I didn't even know who Charlie was
(01:27):
at that point in time, so I am very new
to the scene. And what was crazy is that we
can go through kind of how it all happened. But
it was really cool to go from my first time
I ever went to the event to the next year
I was a speaker at It was just sort of
like embodied the evolution of me in politics, I guess.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
But we watched you.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I mean, I think it has to have been kind
of like a starstruck moment for all of us who
are just weirdos in the political world to watch like
a superstar walk in there. Here you are this amazing
race car drive and I and bigger than life really
because what you've done in your life as a woman
was really impactful for all of us, I think men included.
(02:09):
But I can speak from the standpoint of a woman
kind of watching you go through that and going wow,
that's incredible and then to have you walk into that room,
I mean even for Charlie, it had to have been
a moment of Wow, why is she here and how
can we get her more evolved.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
That I think that Well, first off, very very flattered,
thank you. I had a very blessed career. I had
so many wonderful opportunities. I had so many great people
helping me. So I look back at it and sometimes
I look and I'm like, I did that. So it's
(02:46):
sometimes surreal for me too. So when I went to
the event in twenty twenty three, I finally met Tucker.
He was one of the speakers, and I did know
who Tucker Carlson was, and there was a plan for
me to be on his show show a couple of times,
once some conflict of schedule happened. Well actually they both
ended up being a scheduling thing. But the second time
(03:08):
I was planned and it was he got fired from
Fox at that point, so it was like, oh, well
that's not gonna happen. And then his people reached out
and we're like, we'd still love to have you on
the show.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Was like, oh, that's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So anyway, there was a lot of effort, and so
I was like finally like got to see Charlie or
got to see Tucker.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
And my sister was with me, and so we hung
out all day.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
It was like all all day, and then he went
and did a podcast for like almost two hours, and
we waited and we waited, and it was totally worth
it because he's even better in person. I would say
Tucker's one of those people that's even more engaging and
more like he's just better even in person. And so
we hit it off and he, you know, his sort
of team put it together. And that was December twenty
(03:51):
I don't know, it was probably like the twentieth Dish
and I was on his I flew to Florida and
was on his show January third. So we turned that
around really quickly and got on a show. And then
after I did that and posted about it, then I
heard from Charlie and he was like, Hey, I know
he came to the event.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
You know, I don't know if you'd be interested, We'd
love to have you on the show.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
And I was like great, and then I sort of
at that point, I was like, I guess I'm in politics,
but you.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Had kind of a moment where you were like, I
could just live my life normally and sort of see
where this goes, or I could take a turn in
and then you took like a major turn into politics.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I have to probably give Tulsi credit or blame for
that one or the other.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Eventually it might be blame. I'll just tell you maybe.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I feel like a lot of people think that the
spot that I'm at where I don't really know that
much is actually this sort of like little golden spot
where you're not jaded, you haven't sort of like fallen
into the patterns and rhythms of politics and rhetoric and
you know whatever policy, you know, partisan politics. But I
(04:59):
do feel like.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I'd love to know a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
But when I was at the event in twenty twenty three,
Telca was one of those who spoke, and I looked
on Instagram and saw that she followed me, and I
was like, how cool. So I sent her a message
and said you were fantastic. Just wanted to tell you that,
and she's like, you know, we just had a little
little love fast back and forth. And so I ended
up interviewing her for my podcast because she had her
(05:25):
book come out for love of country.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So that was in the springtime.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
And then she invited me to moderate for her and
Bobby In at a Reclaim America tour stop. And so
I had never moderated an event in my life, and
so I was like sure.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I realized after.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I was done racing that I thrive and feel alive.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
In situations that I'm very uncomfortable. I had no idea.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
So it's like, there's like, for sure, fear, but I
love to do those kinds of things, push myself, and
so I did one and then I and then I
moderated an event for JD Vance in North Carolina. I
ended up campaigning in every swing state, so anyway, and
so I, you know, moderated, and then Tulsi asked me
(06:14):
if i'd come along for the whole last week of
the of the campaign, which was so cool.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
So yeah, just the people I met too.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I think I saw you in Grund Rapids. Did you
go to the grund Rapids event that night before?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Okay, I did.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
That was the I didn't speak at that one, but
I was there. But you know, to kick that off,
it was we did. We did a little rally with
a with a bunch of women in Atlanta, and it
was myself, flor Trump, Caroline Lovett, Christy Noam, Sarah Huckabee,
(06:50):
Tulci and I and like so like, look.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
At that lineup.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I was like, how am I in this line of
Like they all have jobs, real big jobs.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
So it was just it is.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
So funny to hear you say that, because I think
for all of us, it's so obvious that your story
is the real story that resonates with women across the country,
because I think so many women.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Right now are politically homeless.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
You know, We've always kind of trended toward the person
who has said, we want to make sure that women
have rights and that women can play in sports, and
that women can vote and all of the things that
women used to not have, and we fought for that,
and then we fought for the right to be CEOs,
and we fought for the right to be senators and congresswomen.
(07:38):
And now it seems like that the party that historically
said that they were the ones that would stand up
for feminism have turned and they don't really have they
don't even know what lane they're in right now, And
so for you to come out and I think for
all of those of us who have been in the
political movement, and certainly for those who have been elected
that you were on that stage with, I think for
(08:00):
those people to have someone who, like you said, someone
who is very young in their views on politics, but
is moving toward the right things. And I've read that
that making America healthy again is really one of your passions.
And I think that as a mom, and as a
cancer survivor, and as someone who lost my dad to cancer,
(08:20):
I look at that same thing and I'm like, that's
what I've wanted to hear.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Forget about whatever party.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
It is, it's about the fact that we have things
in this country that are making us sick. I've watched
kids in my daughter's classrooms go from being normal, healthy
sized children to over time becoming overweight when they're in
sixth grade, and I'm like, it's not because their families
are eating unhealthy We've seen this trend.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
It's something that we're all eating.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
M M. Well wow, I'm congratulations, and I'm sorry for
the loss as well. But these are the things that
for sure wake us up, and these are the things
that for sure get us angry, you know, and frustrated
with the system. I have to back up a little
and say that you know you were you mentioned I
(09:12):
do I jump in? Do I not jump in? I
don't think that it's that. It's I haven't had an
opinion on politics, but I really I sort of walked
the I walked the PC line and did my job
as a race car driver and an athlete in sports
and didn't want to didn't do it. I didn't have
any desire to like meddle in the other areas I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I'm not a big like activist. I'm not a feminist.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I'm I'm like nose down to the grindstone on the
things that you're really passionate about. And so that was
racing for so long, and so there's just generally not
a lot of room for for politics and religion in sports,
and that was fine with me.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I really didn't care.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
There's plenty of other drama that went on, so so
I just didn't engage.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
But I felt like it really became a calling.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
And I think that that calling was spawned on the
fact that when I went in twenty twenty three to
Amfest and just simply posted some photos and basically summing
it up to say, I love America as a caption.
To have negative backlash for that infuriated me. And then
on top of that, you know, I'm blessed and fortunate
(10:27):
that I can feel like I can kind of avoid
most problems. I mean, even inflation and in prices. It's
not it's not going to change my world. But the
health stuff, I finally there was finally something I couldn't
run from anymore. Like I can't run from what they
do to our food in the grocery store, and like
I live in Arizona, crap and growing here, like I'm
(10:48):
not I'm not having my own garden like I'd.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Love to have.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Like it's one hundred and fifteen all summer, so I'm
not eating scorpions for dinner, although probably not for sure,
people probably want you to nutritious. I finally just felt
like there was nowhere I could go. I mean, when
you look up to the sky and you see the
streaks all over the sky, and you know, feel like
chemtrails and the things that fall out from that. Now
(11:12):
they're on your food, they're on your car, they're on
your grass outside, they're just everywhere. And not to mention
the stuff that they might do behind the scenes with food.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I mean the fear of like what if they just.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Start genetically modifying in ways with vaccines and different things
with food and they don't say anything or they slip
it under the label, Like I feel like what Apeel
did right, it was like if you actually take the
label off of the fruit or vegetable to be able
to see that they're the fruit that they put the
wax on it. I mean, they can get creative with
this stuff as well as marketing. You know, when they
(11:46):
post things as natural and whatnot, we know that these
are not We're finally getting hip to the lies that
this isn't really what it means and so so I
just kind of felt like it felt like it was enough,
was enough, And so the health stuff, but I've always
just been so so engaged with health, whether it's food
or fitness or anything. It's all very I love to
understand the body and hack the body. I just got
(12:09):
done doing my red light and guash our routine before
I came out, so you know, I love that stuff.
So but between being able to say things like I
love this country, We're an American flag, fly an American flag,
and have those things not be Republican, but be American
is I think what ends up having to be the
(12:30):
final goal to know that there's been some sort of
healing and recovery by the country, to be proud of
this country again for everyone, and play for the same
team in so many ways, and and health is health
is nonpartisan.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
It's core to everyone.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
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Now stay tuned. We've got more with Dani Kapatrick after this.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
My journey was somewhat similar, but from the standpoint of education.
I grew up in the public schools and always thought
that I never thought about it. To be honest, I
didn't think about it. Then I moved into the conservative movement.
In twenty seventeen, I came out of manufacturing. I moved
into the conservative movement and started to learn about all
(14:30):
of the things that were different that were being taught
to our kids, about not loving America and why America
was no good and why you should be unhappy and
why you should feel bad about who you are and
how you're hurting other people.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
And I thought, I don't know, this can't be true then.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
And I was like that parent who just sent my
kids because I was like, I didn't even think about it.
The public school has them eight hours a day, that's
their job, and I trust them. But then when the
pandemic hit, I moved the girls from public school to
the private school because mostly because I didn't know when
they'd ever go back to school. I'm like, I got
to work, so we're going to take you to a
(15:07):
different school now. But the difference was shocking, and I
was like, oh my gosh, Wow, we should not be
demonized for saying we want the best for kids in school.
We want them to be able to read, we want
them to know math. I mean, these are like the
fundamental basics that we're putting aside for politics in the classroom.
(15:28):
And why aren't we more upset that kids can't read?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
That was my journey.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Yeah, well that's I mean, there's there's nothing. In fact,
I believe that what has sort of fueled a lot
of this peeling back of the veil of what they
are doing behind the scenes that is affecting everyone has
come from on the heels of when they tried to
(15:56):
push the vaccine on children.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, and it's one.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Thing for a parent to go, oh, well, I'll be fine,
I got to go to work, I do these things.
And it's another thing when they're like not my kid.
And so because of that, it kind of engages you
to like figure out more and understand because you know,
you care with every fiber of your being for your children.
So whether it's health safety or mental safety and whatever
(16:24):
they're being taught in school and the curriculum. The curriculum
needs a rehab anyway. But let's face it, there's a
lot of stuff in school that we don't need and
probably more time than we need to spend there. But
also then just like whether it was like critical race
theory or whatever the teacher.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Decided to put on the walls.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I mean, I think statistically, you know, when kids go
to college and university, I think ninety nine percent of
professors are democratic, and so it's inevitable that they're going
to get a more liberal per aggressive in doctor nation
for years during a very you know, formidable amount of
(17:09):
years of your life that come out, and I mean,
I love questioning things, for sure.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
If there's one thing about me I do is that.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
But but to shape the minds in a way that
makes them you know, view the country negatively or you know,
I think I when I interviewed Charlie, he called it
something like deconstruction.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I think was the actual name for her.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
I think, and it's where you know, in school, they
just basically take everything apart, they question and take everything apart,
and that essentially it's like a dismantling and a making
a mess of everything, but there's no putting it back together,
and there's no It's like you can break a beautiful
sculpture that took you know, months or years to create
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in a second and there's no creating in that environment.
And so, you know, I think that this is you know,
I didn't go to university, I didn't go to college.
I think this is one of those dangers to to
to the evolution of kids in those formidable years. Well.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
And I mean that's one of the things that we
talk about on the podcast a lot, is the fact
that we've invested, really we have invested, whether it is
financially or just in time in our children from K
through twelve, and we've put our values and we've we've
taught them what we believe is right, and we've we've
you know, we've shown them what our family believes, and
(18:33):
we've instilled that for twelve to thirteen years of education
in eighteen years of life, and then we send them
off to one of these radical universities. And I have
talked to so many parents who say, I got a
kid back that I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Sure, and they're in the rebellious years too, yes, So
like give them some give them, feed them that in
that environment in a way to be rebellious, and they're
to go, yeah, Like it's exciting for a kid. I mean,
you know, I was a little when I moved to
England when I was sixteen. For racing, for sure, you know,
that's just what a kid does. But you know that
(19:06):
imagine now that it's information that is not necessarily well,
it's just one person's perspective. I'm not saying all of
it's wrong. I'm not saying all of it's bad, but
you know, it's it's it's definitely a dangerous place to
be and especially if, especially if children are not given
the confidence to think for themselves too critical, think for
(19:29):
themselves and to have confidence. And you know, there's just
so few kids at that age that really do have
the confidence to question things like that especially coming a professor,
like I mean, we're just starting to finally question doctors,
right and government, and you know, like people of prominent
(19:49):
positions were like, wait a minute, are you lying to me? Like,
of course a kid that's nineteen years old is going
to believe the professor.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
They're a professor.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, oh yeah, even struggle.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I mean when I was diagnosed with cancer, I went
to three different doctors, and family members were like, what
are you doing? You have cancer. You have to go
go to the doctor, just get it done. And I
was like, no, I want to. I want multiple people
to tell me what they think. But we are so
used to saying this is the expert. Now, you must
have been somewhat prepared for the backlash you were going
(20:21):
to get, because as a sixteen year old girl in racing,
you had to have gotten some of this in when
you were in the racing world.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Oh yeah, I'm I don't know where I got it from.
I think it's my dad, but for I don't know
my whole life. I really honestly don't care what people think.
I care on a human level, like especially if I
feel like this is the thing, if you don't put
the right amount of effort in. If you don't put
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the right amount of thought in, if you if there
isn't some sort of like uh, intentionality to whatever it
is that you're doing and integrity, then for sure people
can say things and it'll get to you because deep
down underneath the layers, you didn't try hard enough, you
didn't think about it enough, you followed along. But I
(21:09):
and I generally feel like because I questioned things because
you know, I probably because I did confidence building things
from ten years old, well earlier than that. I mean
I played sports my whole life and did various different activities.
You know, I feel like these are confidence building things.
And I just think I feel grateful I had great
I have great parents as well. So so when it
(21:32):
came time to sort of deal with when people originally said,
you know, had negative things to stay about me saying
I love this country, you know I was. My whole
life has prepared me for that, and I really honestly
just laughed at those people because it just seemed absolutely ludicrous.
And that is the point that we're finally at, is
(21:53):
where we can like watch you know, the State of
the Union the other night and watch how out of touch,
which unrealistic, ridiculous and and just nonsensical. The actions are
on the left, uh and and and we're just seeing
that across the board. So I think we're in like
a really great awakening time to uh to that stuff.
(22:17):
And I think a lot of it has to do
with just getting back to basics, being practical, reasonable, rational.
I mean, these these these are these are fundamentals we're
we're sort of calling back in in a big way.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
That's always been kind of a motivating factor for me too.
When someone comes at me when I do have a
basis in what I'm doing or what I'm saying, and
they come at me and they're like, eh, no, this
is not you, then I'm.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Almost motivated, and maybe to a fault.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I remember when I had my twins and I was
in the just back into the room and they brought
the babies in, and then the pediatrician came in and
she was like, don't try to be super mom and
nurse these two babies.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
You're just going to give them a bottle.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And then you know that part of me in my
mind was like, these babies will never have a bottle now,
because you know, that's kind of motivating to me to
be told I can't do something or I shouldn't do something,
And I think that is something kind of that grit
you need to have if you're in this space, and
I'm sure in the sports space as well.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Where'd you get it from then?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I think from my dad also my parents. My mom
is really tough. My dad was extremely tough as well,
and I worked with him in the steel industry for
a long time, you know, manufacturing. When you're in a
steel foundry, I mean, you've got to prove yourself, I mean,
and it's similar, it was.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
A little more manly environment to.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Be yes, yeah, it is very much a man's world.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
And you would walk into these meetings and people like, oh,
give me a break, and you have to prove yourself.
And that was that was a great training ground for
when I went into politics. People were like, you have
no idea what you're getting into, and I thought, I mean,
it is very snarky and people are very nasty and
they do manipulative things, but it's nothing like facing the
(23:59):
real of making products that are life or death products
every single day.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Hmmm.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, Well, let's just talk about too, just like how
important the family is. Nuclear family I mean, look, we're
probably never going to get back to the way it
used to be, where it was large community, you had grandparents, aunts, uncles,
cousins all around and you all kind of stayed in
the same place or even back in the further days
(24:26):
of sort of more tribal living. It's probably never going
to be like that again. But we see how valuable
it is to have two parents, but especially there's a
really important role of the father. And you know, we're
also at a point in time where, you know, I
guess a lot of times things the pendulum kind of swings.
(24:47):
It's like one way and then it's kind of got
way over here and then we find our spot. But
this attack on masculinity really is a problem. And when
I say like a manly environment like a steel like
the steel industry, it's fine that it is, like women
don't want to do that. Like there's also skill sets
that women have that are more conducive to them than men.
(25:09):
So let's stop looking at this as like, oh, wond
does like this is everybody should be able to do them, sure,
but like they're not going to Okay, oh, Absolutely attributes
of a man and attributes of a women that are
going to be different and thank god, thank god.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
And my dad was super tough at the office. I
can remember when my sister interned and they were like, gosh,
your dad is so tough. We feel so bad for
your mom. And my sister was like, that's funny because
my mom is like brutal at home.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
You know, my dad is.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Completely he is completely compliant or whatever. But that was
kind of the perfect relationship where anything we did, no
matter what it was, even if I could tell my
dad didn't fully agree with my mom, he always looked
at me and was like, your mother's always right, no
matter what it is.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
That's what my dad said too.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, I mean, and I think having that back up
as mom was very important, you know, and it instilled
in me that there were roles and there was respect.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah. Yeah, and there's a team.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
My parents when they had my sister and I were
only two years apart. So my sweet sister's birthday today,
she's forty one, and so we're almost exactly two years apart.
But the deal that my parents made was that the
first ten years was going to be in my first
ten years of each of our lives, it was going
to be my Mom was the official yes and no
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for things, and then the second ten years, Dad was
the official yes and no for things, which is actually
perfect when you're talking about girls, because when they're young,
like mother is normally taking care of them more and
doing more of that work, and then when they're older
they want to do misbehave and so Dad's like, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
And they worked. It worked.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
We got to be so much nicer than the way
I describe it. I always told my mom, well, you
were the punisher. She's like, thanks, but she was, you know,
she was, and that's exactly right until we got into
high school. And then once we were in high school,
she was still pretty much in charge, but if somebody
had to step in, then he stepped in.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
And that was terrifying.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I think that, you know, we should be a little
scared of our parents until we're like up and on
our own, at least until we're eighteen twenty. You know,
we should have some level of fear of our parents.
They're not our best friends. We're not buddies. You know,
my parents and I are now. And if I told
you the kind of conversations we have or the things
we talk about, it's like, so cool to come full circle,
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but only once you're responsible enough to be able to
have those conversations, deal with those things and be in
a friendship position. But when they're young like I, you know,
I think that's also what so much kept me on
the straight and narrow. Like my dad put the fear
of God in me when I was a kid racing.
He's like, you ever get caught drunk driving, you lose
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your life.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
You can't race. If you ever do drugs, you won't
be able to race.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
And I was like, oh, okay, and you know, it
really wasn't true, but it was totally worked.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
It totally worked.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
So parents are meant to be there to keep their
children alive and give them good moral compass, give them
into you know, build integ build and make them have
integrity with their decisions and be good to human beings.
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more after this. When I was growing up, my parents
always talked about your permanent record. I don't know if
you ever heard that one like this will go on
your permanent record, And I was like, what is the
permanent record? And honestly, back then, I don't really think
that there was this permanent record.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
But now social media is your permanent record.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Man, We're living in a different time.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
And I mean there is sort of like that anxious
nation wave that came from about I believe it's twenty
twelve on when social media really had its sort of
like huge push and onslaught into culture. And it's been
very different since. And I think parents have a bigger
job than they've ever had to manage that situation because oh, man,
(30:20):
comparison is the thief of joy and it is at
your fingertips every single day.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
All day.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Boy, that is such a That is such a good statement,
and that's something I need to say to.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
My girls because it's so true.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
And it's so hard now because you've got like the
fear of missing out and kids automatically see everybody had
a sleepover and I wasn't there. I saw it on snapchatter,
I saw it on Instagram. Oh it is so hard,
but I think it is. You know, everybody who says,
we know, we got to take these apps away, We've
got to prevent this, I'm like, you know, what, this
is their life.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
We have to figure out how we talk about it.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
And that's right.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
This is a different This is just it's different, but
it's all so the only way they communicate this is
how they will always communicate too.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
You know, nobody's getting on the phone.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Anymore and having their mom pick up the other line
and say time to do your homework.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Those days are over. That's that's been my argument too.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I'm like, for all the people who say, well, we've
got to ban social media for people under eighteen, I'm like,
that's the way they talk, and that's the way they communicate.
Maybe we need to figure out how we parent around that.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Yeah, I think that's well said. This isn't going away.
Just like so many fair ai. I mean, I'm one
of them to some degree, but it's like it's common,
it's coming. Figure it out, learn how to work with it,
learn how to you know, and you know, get on board.
I also am big on energy and so like the
more you fear things, the more you're drawing sort of
these experiences in. You know, we just you just have
(31:48):
to approach things, you know, differently.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
I have to understand how to work with them.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah, that's it, that's true. I mean even with medical stuff,
everything with that healthy make America healthy again, all of this,
I think there is a healthy amount of fear that
has caused us to question which is ultimately science. So
there we are back at the beginning and we're experimenting.
But I think that's why people feel like they want
to be on the side of people who are willing
to question and are willing to make changes. And we
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appreciate the ear out there every day making sure people
know it's okay to do that. So and I thank
you for coming down here today.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Oh thank you. Well.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
I started my podcast like five years ago or so,
and I feel like, you know, I've always got these odd,
weird interests and thoughts and whether it's health or spirituality
or the universe or anything like that, or conspiracies, and
I've always felt like I've said, I'm like I'm boiling frogs.
And don't you know the boiling frogs, it's like, if
you turn the heat up really slowly, they stay in.
(32:46):
If you turn it up all the sudden or drop
them in hot, they'll jump out. So it's like boiling frogs.
You're just constantly turning the heat up just a little
more and a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Just to get thinking outside the box, just to you know,
think for yourself. I think that.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
You know, we're also in an era where we don't
know who to believe. We don't know if we can
even trust, you know, a documentary that comes on trying
to teach us about things because who paid for it?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Or you know who paid.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
For that study that said that that was that food
is good for you? Well, it's probably you know, so
many of these things we've realized that we've been paid
for by drug companies and buy companies that are trying
to get these foods into our kitchens. And and we
we we have to learn how to use our body
as a moral compass as as like an energetic compass.
(33:34):
When things don't feel right, when they don't make sense,
we have to start tuning into that because we don't
we don't know anymore. And I think we're being called
into a much deeper, more internal sort of spiritual practice
that I think also was part of much more ancient times.
And then you know, industry came along and sort of
(33:54):
it creates this disconnect between the body and the mind.
And I I mean, I can even remember from myself
when I started to practice that for the first time,
because with racing and with again all the things people
say and do. It's like you stay a little disconnected
from that. And so when you start to engage with
the body again and understand how things.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Feel, you all you get, you get in, You.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Get so much more information and it's true, like we
can just say, how many times have you have you
gone against your intuition?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
And it was right? All of them, all of them right.
And so, Sary, I think.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
We're in a we're in a we're in a When
they say we're in a spiritual war, I think that
it's that it's going to be won by going inward
and really being able to identify what's true and what's
not and getting on the right path.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah. I agree. So where do people find the podcast?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Uh? Anywhere people find podcasts that the episodes are recorded,
so they're on YouTube, but they're also on Spotify and
Apple and everything, so anywhere you find podcasts.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
All right, awesome, Thank you so much, Danica Patrick. Thanks
and thank you all for joining us on the Tutor
Dixon Podcast. For this episode and others. Go to Tutor
Dixon podcast dot com, the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or
wherever you get your podcasts and join us next time.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Have a blessed day
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Today is an awesome day because we have Danica Patrick
with us. I am so excited to have you here. Danica,
thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
My pleasure. Thank you so.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
In case you don't know, but you probably do, she's
a former NASCAR and IndyCar driver and the only woman
to ever win an IndyCar Series race, So we are
super excited to have This is like a woman podcast,
even though we have a lot of men listening. We
celebrate women on this podcast for sure.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Every day, good good, Well, I'm happy to do that.
It was just International Woman's Day, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
It was, Yes, it was, so we have more to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
But also we're celebrating you because you've had such an
interesting story just from the standpoint of you know, obviously
you do things that are are not the norm. I
mean it's not the norm for a young woman at
or a young girl at ten years old to start
racing and then become a NASCAR driver and IndyCar driver.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
But also in the political world.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I was reading your story and I'm like, no way,
this is the first time you voted.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yeah, I mean the first political event I ever went
to was Amfest. I live in Scottsdale, so it's here
in town, and it's Charlie Kirk's big event. And it
was December of twenty twenty three. That was the first
political event I ever went to. It probably makes me
look bad, but I didn't even know who Charlie was
(01:27):
at that point in time, so I am very new
to the scene. And what was crazy is that we
can go through kind of how it all happened. But
it was really cool to go from my first time
I ever went to the event to the next year
I was a speaker at It was just sort of
like embodied the evolution of me in politics, I guess.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
But we watched you.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I mean, I think it has to have been kind
of like a starstruck moment for all of us who
are just weirdos in the political world to watch like
a superstar walk in there. Here you are this amazing
race car drive and I and bigger than life really
because what you've done in your life as a woman
was really impactful for all of us, I think men included.
(02:09):
But I can speak from the standpoint of a woman
kind of watching you go through that and going wow,
that's incredible and then to have you walk into that room,
I mean even for Charlie, it had to have been
a moment of Wow, why is she here and how
can we get her more evolved.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
That I think that Well, first off, very very flattered,
thank you. I had a very blessed career. I had
so many wonderful opportunities. I had so many great people
helping me. So I look back at it and sometimes
I look and I'm like, I did that. So it's
(02:46):
sometimes surreal for me too. So when I went to
the event in twenty twenty three, I finally met Tucker.
He was one of the speakers, and I did know
who Tucker Carlson was, and there was a plan for
me to be on his show show a couple of times,
once some conflict of schedule happened. Well actually they both
ended up being a scheduling thing. But the second time
(03:08):
I was planned and it was he got fired from
Fox at that point, so it was like, oh, well
that's not gonna happen. And then his people reached out
and we're like, we'd still love to have you on
the show.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Was like, oh, that's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So anyway, there was a lot of effort, and so
I was like finally like got to see Charlie or
got to see Tucker.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
And my sister was with me, and so we hung
out all day.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
It was like all all day, and then he went
and did a podcast for like almost two hours, and
we waited and we waited, and it was totally worth
it because he's even better in person. I would say
Tucker's one of those people that's even more engaging and
more like he's just better even in person. And so
we hit it off and he, you know, his sort
of team put it together. And that was December twenty
(03:51):
I don't know, it was probably like the twentieth Dish
and I was on his I flew to Florida and
was on his show January third. So we turned that
around really quickly and got on a show. And then
after I did that and posted about it, then I
heard from Charlie and he was like, Hey, I know
he came to the event.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
You know, I don't know if you'd be interested, We'd
love to have you on the show.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
And I was like great, and then I sort of
at that point, I was like, I guess I'm in politics,
but you.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Had kind of a moment where you were like, I
could just live my life normally and sort of see
where this goes, or I could take a turn in
and then you took like a major turn into politics.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I have to probably give Tulsi credit or blame for
that one or the other.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Eventually it might be blame. I'll just tell you maybe.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I feel like a lot of people think that the
spot that I'm at where I don't really know that
much is actually this sort of like little golden spot
where you're not jaded, you haven't sort of like fallen
into the patterns and rhythms of politics and rhetoric and
you know whatever policy, you know, partisan politics. But I
(04:59):
do feel like.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I'd love to know a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
But when I was at the event in twenty twenty three,
Telca was one of those who spoke, and I looked
on Instagram and saw that she followed me, and I
was like, how cool. So I sent her a message
and said you were fantastic. Just wanted to tell you that,
and she's like, you know, we just had a little
little love fast back and forth. And so I ended
up interviewing her for my podcast because she had her
(05:25):
book come out for love of country.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So that was in the springtime.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
And then she invited me to moderate for her and
Bobby In at a Reclaim America tour stop. And so
I had never moderated an event in my life, and
so I was like sure.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I realized after.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I was done racing that I thrive and feel alive.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
In situations that I'm very uncomfortable. I had no idea.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
So it's like, there's like, for sure, fear, but I
love to do those kinds of things, push myself, and
so I did one and then I and then I
moderated an event for JD Vance in North Carolina. I
ended up campaigning in every swing state, so anyway, and
so I, you know, moderated, and then Tulsi asked me
(06:14):
if i'd come along for the whole last week of
the of the campaign, which was so cool.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
So yeah, just the people I met too.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I think I saw you in Grund Rapids. Did you
go to the grund Rapids event that night before?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Okay, I did.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
That was the I didn't speak at that one, but
I was there. But you know, to kick that off,
it was we did. We did a little rally with
a with a bunch of women in Atlanta, and it
was myself, flor Trump, Caroline Lovett, Christy Noam, Sarah Huckabee,
(06:50):
Tulci and I and like so like, look.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
At that lineup.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I was like, how am I in this line of
Like they all have jobs, real big jobs.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
So it was just it is.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
So funny to hear you say that, because I think
for all of us, it's so obvious that your story
is the real story that resonates with women across the country,
because I think so many women.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Right now are politically homeless.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
You know, We've always kind of trended toward the person
who has said, we want to make sure that women
have rights and that women can play in sports, and
that women can vote and all of the things that
women used to not have, and we fought for that,
and then we fought for the right to be CEOs,
and we fought for the right to be senators and congresswomen.
(07:38):
And now it seems like that the party that historically
said that they were the ones that would stand up
for feminism have turned and they don't really have they
don't even know what lane they're in right now, And
so for you to come out and I think for
all of those of us who have been in the
political movement, and certainly for those who have been elected
that you were on that stage with, I think for
(08:00):
those people to have someone who, like you said, someone
who is very young in their views on politics, but
is moving toward the right things. And I've read that
that making America healthy again is really one of your passions.
And I think that as a mom, and as a
cancer survivor, and as someone who lost my dad to cancer,
(08:20):
I look at that same thing and I'm like, that's
what I've wanted to hear.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Forget about whatever party.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
It is, it's about the fact that we have things
in this country that are making us sick. I've watched
kids in my daughter's classrooms go from being normal, healthy
sized children to over time becoming overweight when they're in
sixth grade, and I'm like, it's not because their families
are eating unhealthy We've seen this trend.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
It's something that we're all eating.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
M M. Well wow, I'm congratulations, and I'm sorry for
the loss as well. But these are the things that
for sure wake us up, and these are the things
that for sure get us angry, you know, and frustrated
with the system. I have to back up a little
and say that you know you were you mentioned I
(09:12):
do I jump in? Do I not jump in? I
don't think that it's that. It's I haven't had an
opinion on politics, but I really I sort of walked
the I walked the PC line and did my job
as a race car driver and an athlete in sports
and didn't want to didn't do it. I didn't have
any desire to like meddle in the other areas I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I'm not a big like activist. I'm not a feminist.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I'm I'm like nose down to the grindstone on the
things that you're really passionate about. And so that was
racing for so long, and so there's just generally not
a lot of room for for politics and religion in sports,
and that was fine with me.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I really didn't care.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
There's plenty of other drama that went on, so so
I just didn't engage.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
But I felt like it really became a calling.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
And I think that that calling was spawned on the
fact that when I went in twenty twenty three to
Amfest and just simply posted some photos and basically summing
it up to say, I love America as a caption.
To have negative backlash for that infuriated me. And then
on top of that, you know, I'm blessed and fortunate
(10:27):
that I can feel like I can kind of avoid
most problems. I mean, even inflation and in prices. It's
not it's not going to change my world. But the
health stuff, I finally there was finally something I couldn't
run from anymore. Like I can't run from what they
do to our food in the grocery store, and like
I live in Arizona, crap and growing here, like I'm
(10:48):
not I'm not having my own garden like I'd.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Love to have.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Like it's one hundred and fifteen all summer, so I'm
not eating scorpions for dinner, although probably not for sure,
people probably want you to nutritious. I finally just felt
like there was nowhere I could go. I mean, when
you look up to the sky and you see the
streaks all over the sky, and you know, feel like
chemtrails and the things that fall out from that. Now
(11:12):
they're on your food, they're on your car, they're on
your grass outside, they're just everywhere. And not to mention
the stuff that they might do behind the scenes with food.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I mean the fear of like what if they just.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Start genetically modifying in ways with vaccines and different things
with food and they don't say anything or they slip
it under the label, Like I feel like what Apeel
did right, it was like if you actually take the
label off of the fruit or vegetable to be able
to see that they're the fruit that they put the
wax on it. I mean, they can get creative with
this stuff as well as marketing. You know, when they
(11:46):
post things as natural and whatnot, we know that these
are not We're finally getting hip to the lies that
this isn't really what it means and so so I
just kind of felt like it felt like it was enough,
was enough, And so the health stuff, but I've always
just been so so engaged with health, whether it's food
or fitness or anything. It's all very I love to
understand the body and hack the body. I just got
(12:09):
done doing my red light and guash our routine before
I came out, so you know, I love that stuff.
So but between being able to say things like I
love this country, We're an American flag, fly an American flag,
and have those things not be Republican, but be American
is I think what ends up having to be the
(12:30):
final goal to know that there's been some sort of
healing and recovery by the country, to be proud of
this country again for everyone, and play for the same
team in so many ways, and and health is health
is nonpartisan.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
It's core to everyone.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
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Now stay tuned. We've got more with Dani Kapatrick after this.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
My journey was somewhat similar, but from the standpoint of education.
I grew up in the public schools and always thought
that I never thought about it. To be honest, I
didn't think about it. Then I moved into the conservative movement.
In twenty seventeen, I came out of manufacturing. I moved
into the conservative movement and started to learn about all
(14:30):
of the things that were different that were being taught
to our kids, about not loving America and why America
was no good and why you should be unhappy and
why you should feel bad about who you are and
how you're hurting other people.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
And I thought, I don't know, this can't be true then.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
And I was like that parent who just sent my
kids because I was like, I didn't even think about it.
The public school has them eight hours a day, that's
their job, and I trust them. But then when the
pandemic hit, I moved the girls from public school to
the private school because mostly because I didn't know when
they'd ever go back to school. I'm like, I got
to work, so we're going to take you to a
(15:07):
different school now. But the difference was shocking, and I
was like, oh my gosh, Wow, we should not be
demonized for saying we want the best for kids in school.
We want them to be able to read, we want
them to know math. I mean, these are like the
fundamental basics that we're putting aside for politics in the classroom.
(15:28):
And why aren't we more upset that kids can't read?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
That was my journey.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Yeah, well that's I mean, there's there's nothing. In fact,
I believe that what has sort of fueled a lot
of this peeling back of the veil of what they
are doing behind the scenes that is affecting everyone has
come from on the heels of when they tried to
(15:56):
push the vaccine on children.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, and it's one.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Thing for a parent to go, oh, well, I'll be fine,
I got to go to work, I do these things.
And it's another thing when they're like not my kid.
And so because of that, it kind of engages you
to like figure out more and understand because you know,
you care with every fiber of your being for your children.
So whether it's health safety or mental safety and whatever
(16:24):
they're being taught in school and the curriculum. The curriculum
needs a rehab anyway. But let's face it, there's a
lot of stuff in school that we don't need and
probably more time than we need to spend there. But
also then just like whether it was like critical race
theory or whatever the teacher.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Decided to put on the walls.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I mean, I think statistically, you know, when kids go
to college and university, I think ninety nine percent of
professors are democratic, and so it's inevitable that they're going
to get a more liberal per aggressive in doctor nation
for years during a very you know, formidable amount of
(17:09):
years of your life that come out, and I mean,
I love questioning things, for sure.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
If there's one thing about me I do is that.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
But but to shape the minds in a way that
makes them you know, view the country negatively or you know,
I think I when I interviewed Charlie, he called it
something like deconstruction.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I think was the actual name for her.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
I think, and it's where you know, in school, they
just basically take everything apart, they question and take everything apart,
and that essentially it's like a dismantling and a making
a mess of everything, but there's no putting it back together,
and there's no It's like you can break a beautiful
sculpture that took you know, months or years to create
(17:55):
in a second and there's no creating in that environment.
And so, you know, I think that this is you know,
I didn't go to university, I didn't go to college.
I think this is one of those dangers to to
to the evolution of kids in those formidable years. Well.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
And I mean that's one of the things that we
talk about on the podcast a lot, is the fact
that we've invested, really we have invested, whether it is
financially or just in time in our children from K
through twelve, and we've put our values and we've we've
taught them what we believe is right, and we've we've
you know, we've shown them what our family believes, and
(18:33):
we've instilled that for twelve to thirteen years of education
in eighteen years of life, and then we send them
off to one of these radical universities. And I have
talked to so many parents who say, I got a
kid back that I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Sure, and they're in the rebellious years too, yes, So
like give them some give them, feed them that in
that environment in a way to be rebellious, and they're
to go, yeah, Like it's exciting for a kid. I mean,
you know, I was a little when I moved to
England when I was sixteen. For racing, for sure, you know,
that's just what a kid does. But you know that
(19:06):
imagine now that it's information that is not necessarily well,
it's just one person's perspective. I'm not saying all of
it's wrong. I'm not saying all of it's bad, but
you know, it's it's it's definitely a dangerous place to
be and especially if, especially if children are not given
the confidence to think for themselves too critical, think for
(19:29):
themselves and to have confidence. And you know, there's just
so few kids at that age that really do have
the confidence to question things like that especially coming a professor,
like I mean, we're just starting to finally question doctors,
right and government, and you know, like people of prominent
(19:49):
positions were like, wait a minute, are you lying to me? Like,
of course a kid that's nineteen years old is going
to believe the professor.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
They're a professor.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, oh yeah, even struggle.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I mean when I was diagnosed with cancer, I went
to three different doctors, and family members were like, what
are you doing? You have cancer. You have to go
go to the doctor, just get it done. And I
was like, no, I want to. I want multiple people
to tell me what they think. But we are so
used to saying this is the expert. Now, you must
have been somewhat prepared for the backlash you were going
(20:21):
to get, because as a sixteen year old girl in racing,
you had to have gotten some of this in when
you were in the racing world.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Oh yeah, I'm I don't know where I got it from.
I think it's my dad, but for I don't know
my whole life. I really honestly don't care what people think.
I care on a human level, like especially if I
feel like this is the thing, if you don't put
the right amount of effort in. If you don't put
(20:48):
the right amount of thought in, if you if there
isn't some sort of like uh, intentionality to whatever it
is that you're doing and integrity, then for sure people
can say things and it'll get to you because deep
down underneath the layers, you didn't try hard enough, you
didn't think about it enough, you followed along. But I
(21:09):
and I generally feel like because I questioned things because
you know, I probably because I did confidence building things
from ten years old, well earlier than that. I mean
I played sports my whole life and did various different activities.
You know, I feel like these are confidence building things.
And I just think I feel grateful I had great
I have great parents as well. So so when it
(21:32):
came time to sort of deal with when people originally said,
you know, had negative things to stay about me saying
I love this country, you know I was. My whole
life has prepared me for that, and I really honestly
just laughed at those people because it just seemed absolutely ludicrous.
And that is the point that we're finally at, is
(21:53):
where we can like watch you know, the State of
the Union the other night and watch how out of touch,
which unrealistic, ridiculous and and just nonsensical. The actions are
on the left, uh and and and we're just seeing
that across the board. So I think we're in like
a really great awakening time to uh to that stuff.
(22:17):
And I think a lot of it has to do
with just getting back to basics, being practical, reasonable, rational.
I mean, these these these are these are fundamentals we're
we're sort of calling back in in a big way.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
That's always been kind of a motivating factor for me too.
When someone comes at me when I do have a
basis in what I'm doing or what I'm saying, and
they come at me and they're like, eh, no, this
is not you, then I'm.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Almost motivated, and maybe to a fault.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I remember when I had my twins and I was
in the just back into the room and they brought
the babies in, and then the pediatrician came in and
she was like, don't try to be super mom and
nurse these two babies.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
You're just going to give them a bottle.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And then you know that part of me in my
mind was like, these babies will never have a bottle now,
because you know, that's kind of motivating to me to
be told I can't do something or I shouldn't do something,
And I think that is something kind of that grit
you need to have if you're in this space, and
I'm sure in the sports space as well.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Where'd you get it from then?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I think from my dad also my parents. My mom
is really tough. My dad was extremely tough as well,
and I worked with him in the steel industry for
a long time, you know, manufacturing. When you're in a
steel foundry, I mean, you've got to prove yourself, I mean,
and it's similar, it was.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
A little more manly environment to.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Be yes, yeah, it is very much a man's world.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
And you would walk into these meetings and people like, oh,
give me a break, and you have to prove yourself.
And that was that was a great training ground for
when I went into politics. People were like, you have
no idea what you're getting into, and I thought, I mean,
it is very snarky and people are very nasty and
they do manipulative things, but it's nothing like facing the
(23:59):
real of making products that are life or death products
every single day.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Hmmm.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, Well, let's just talk about too, just like how
important the family is. Nuclear family I mean, look, we're
probably never going to get back to the way it
used to be, where it was large community, you had grandparents, aunts, uncles,
cousins all around and you all kind of stayed in
the same place or even back in the further days
(24:26):
of sort of more tribal living. It's probably never going
to be like that again. But we see how valuable
it is to have two parents, but especially there's a
really important role of the father. And you know, we're
also at a point in time where, you know, I
guess a lot of times things the pendulum kind of swings.
(24:47):
It's like one way and then it's kind of got
way over here and then we find our spot. But
this attack on masculinity really is a problem. And when
I say like a manly environment like a steel like
the steel industry, it's fine that it is, like women
don't want to do that. Like there's also skill sets
that women have that are more conducive to them than men.
(25:09):
So let's stop looking at this as like, oh, wond
does like this is everybody should be able to do them, sure,
but like they're not going to Okay, oh, Absolutely attributes
of a man and attributes of a women that are
going to be different and thank god, thank god.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
And my dad was super tough at the office. I
can remember when my sister interned and they were like, gosh,
your dad is so tough. We feel so bad for
your mom. And my sister was like, that's funny because
my mom is like brutal at home.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
You know, my dad is.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Completely he is completely compliant or whatever. But that was
kind of the perfect relationship where anything we did, no
matter what it was, even if I could tell my
dad didn't fully agree with my mom, he always looked
at me and was like, your mother's always right, no
matter what it is.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
That's what my dad said too.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, I mean, and I think having that back up
as mom was very important, you know, and it instilled
in me that there were roles and there was respect.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah. Yeah, and there's a team.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
My parents when they had my sister and I were
only two years apart. So my sweet sister's birthday today,
she's forty one, and so we're almost exactly two years apart.
But the deal that my parents made was that the
first ten years was going to be in my first
ten years of each of our lives, it was going
to be my Mom was the official yes and no
(26:31):
for things, and then the second ten years, Dad was
the official yes and no for things, which is actually
perfect when you're talking about girls, because when they're young,
like mother is normally taking care of them more and
doing more of that work, and then when they're older
they want to do misbehave and so Dad's like, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
And they worked. It worked.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
We got to be so much nicer than the way
I describe it. I always told my mom, well, you
were the punisher. She's like, thanks, but she was, you know,
she was, and that's exactly right until we got into
high school. And then once we were in high school,
she was still pretty much in charge, but if somebody
had to step in, then he stepped in.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
And that was terrifying.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I think that, you know, we should be a little
scared of our parents until we're like up and on
our own, at least until we're eighteen twenty. You know,
we should have some level of fear of our parents.
They're not our best friends. We're not buddies. You know,
my parents and I are now. And if I told
you the kind of conversations we have or the things
we talk about, it's like, so cool to come full circle,
(27:39):
but only once you're responsible enough to be able to
have those conversations, deal with those things and be in
a friendship position. But when they're young like I, you know,
I think that's also what so much kept me on
the straight and narrow. Like my dad put the fear
of God in me when I was a kid racing.
He's like, you ever get caught drunk driving, you lose
(27:59):
your life.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
You can't race. If you ever do drugs, you won't
be able to race.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
And I was like, oh, okay, and you know, it
really wasn't true, but it was totally worked.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
It totally worked.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
So parents are meant to be there to keep their
children alive and give them good moral compass, give them
into you know, build integ build and make them have
integrity with their decisions and be good to human beings.
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more after this. When I was growing up, my parents
always talked about your permanent record. I don't know if
you ever heard that one like this will go on
your permanent record, And I was like, what is the
permanent record? And honestly, back then, I don't really think
that there was this permanent record.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
But now social media is your permanent record.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Man, We're living in a different time.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
And I mean there is sort of like that anxious
nation wave that came from about I believe it's twenty
twelve on when social media really had its sort of
like huge push and onslaught into culture. And it's been
very different since. And I think parents have a bigger
job than they've ever had to manage that situation because oh, man,
(30:20):
comparison is the thief of joy and it is at
your fingertips every single day.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
All day.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Boy, that is such a That is such a good statement,
and that's something I need to say to.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
My girls because it's so true.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
And it's so hard now because you've got like the
fear of missing out and kids automatically see everybody had
a sleepover and I wasn't there. I saw it on snapchatter,
I saw it on Instagram. Oh it is so hard,
but I think it is. You know, everybody who says,
we know, we got to take these apps away, We've
got to prevent this, I'm like, you know, what, this
is their life.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
We have to figure out how we talk about it.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
And that's right.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
This is a different This is just it's different, but
it's all so the only way they communicate this is
how they will always communicate too.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
You know, nobody's getting on the phone.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Anymore and having their mom pick up the other line
and say time to do your homework.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Those days are over. That's that's been my argument too.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I'm like, for all the people who say, well, we've
got to ban social media for people under eighteen, I'm like,
that's the way they talk, and that's the way they communicate.
Maybe we need to figure out how we parent around that.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Yeah, I think that's well said. This isn't going away.
Just like so many fair ai. I mean, I'm one
of them to some degree, but it's like it's common,
it's coming. Figure it out, learn how to work with it,
learn how to you know, and you know, get on board.
I also am big on energy and so like the
more you fear things, the more you're drawing sort of
these experiences in. You know, we just you just have
(31:48):
to approach things, you know, differently.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
I have to understand how to work with them.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah, that's it, that's true. I mean even with medical stuff,
everything with that healthy make America healthy again, all of this,
I think there is a healthy amount of fear that
has caused us to question which is ultimately science. So
there we are back at the beginning and we're experimenting.
But I think that's why people feel like they want
to be on the side of people who are willing
to question and are willing to make changes. And we
(32:16):
appreciate the ear out there every day making sure people
know it's okay to do that. So and I thank
you for coming down here today.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Oh thank you. Well.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
I started my podcast like five years ago or so,
and I feel like, you know, I've always got these odd,
weird interests and thoughts and whether it's health or spirituality
or the universe or anything like that, or conspiracies, and
I've always felt like I've said, I'm like I'm boiling frogs.
And don't you know the boiling frogs, it's like, if
you turn the heat up really slowly, they stay in.
(32:46):
If you turn it up all the sudden or drop
them in hot, they'll jump out. So it's like boiling frogs.
You're just constantly turning the heat up just a little
more and a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Just to get thinking outside the box, just to you know,
think for yourself. I think that.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
You know, we're also in an era where we don't
know who to believe. We don't know if we can
even trust, you know, a documentary that comes on trying
to teach us about things because who paid for it?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Or you know who paid.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
For that study that said that that was that food
is good for you? Well, it's probably you know, so
many of these things we've realized that we've been paid
for by drug companies and buy companies that are trying
to get these foods into our kitchens. And and we
we we have to learn how to use our body
as a moral compass as as like an energetic compass.
(33:34):
When things don't feel right, when they don't make sense,
we have to start tuning into that because we don't
we don't know anymore. And I think we're being called
into a much deeper, more internal sort of spiritual practice
that I think also was part of much more ancient times.
And then you know, industry came along and sort of
(33:54):
it creates this disconnect between the body and the mind.
And I I mean, I can even remember from myself
when I started to practice that for the first time,
because with racing and with again all the things people
say and do. It's like you stay a little disconnected
from that. And so when you start to engage with
the body again and understand how things.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Feel, you all you get, you get in, You.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Get so much more information and it's true, like we
can just say, how many times have you have you
gone against your intuition?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
And it was right? All of them, all of them right.
And so, Sary, I think.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
We're in a we're in a we're in a When
they say we're in a spiritual war, I think that
it's that it's going to be won by going inward
and really being able to identify what's true and what's
not and getting on the right path.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah. I agree. So where do people find the podcast?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Uh? Anywhere people find podcasts that the episodes are recorded,
so they're on YouTube, but they're also on Spotify and
Apple and everything, so anywhere you find podcasts.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
All right, awesome, Thank you so much, Danica Patrick. Thanks
and thank you all for joining us on the Tutor
Dixon Podcast. For this episode and others. Go to Tutor
Dixon podcast dot com, the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or
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Speaker 1 (35:13):
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