March 26, 2025 • 36 mins
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton kicked off the third hour by taking calls from listeners across the country. They discussed various casting choices for Snow White, with suggestions like Sabrina Carpenter and Julia Butters. The hosts humorously debated the merits of these choices, with Buck admitting he had never heard of Sabrina Carpenter before. The conversation then shifted to the broader implications of Hollywood's casting decisions and the importance of beauty and excellence in art. Clay and Buck critique Hollywood's trend of prioritizing inclusivity over excellence, using examples like Victoria's Secret's shift in marketing strategies and the casting decisions for historical figures in movies. They argue that this approach undermines the aspirational quality of art and entertainment. NPR's controversial tweets and the organization's funding. Why are our tax dollars funding NPR? Buck Sexton's Pete Hegseth and Will Cain story involving trust and a dirty puddle of water in NYC.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back into Clay and Bucks. Third hour kicks off.
(00:02):
Now we've got a bunch of news stories we're going
to be diving into. But we said we would take
some calls and some talkbacks, and we are none of
our word here, so let's dive into some of these
right now. We've got all lines lit callers from all
over the country. Andrew in Winston Salem, North Carolina, you're
up first.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, hey, thanks guys, first time been able to get
into y'all. I've been tried many times, but this is
the number one news station or news radio in the
country right here.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Hey man, thank you for listening.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
H oh absolutely so. My casting choice would be Sabrina
Carpenter for snow White. I think she has caught the
apple of the American eyes and many different demographics. I
think she handles herself really well and it's not afraid
to make fun of herself. I think she would promote
snow White much better than mss Zegler. And there's a
(01:01):
lot of people in the music industry icons that want
to work with her and have like Paul Simon, and
I'm sure Dolly Parton wants to work with her in
the future.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I thank you, though, who thank you so much for
the call of Clay. Do you know who Sabrina Carpenter is.
I've never heard of her, nor have I ever seen
her before. She is insanely famous musician, So that is
really funny that you have never heard of her. It's
like the Morgan Wallen situation on can I just do.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
One of those? Is she a country music person?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I'm not an first of all, I am tone deaf,
so I am not a great judge of incredible singing
talent or anything else. But she is one of the
most famous young singers out there right now, so I
think that she would likely potentially do very well. She's pretty.
(01:51):
She's got that sort of alabaster skin airful, the fetut
butterskin line. Say that I knew you were going to
talk about that quote.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
From I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I don't know if I ever talked about the color
of skin of somebody in a positive way. So the
alabaster skin line is just you know, she's she's white,
I mean snow white is white as as as a
big part of her appeal, and it's like not a
super tan skin.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
But uh, but it is.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Very funny in and of itself and uh, and there
are a lot of people. She is a called a
pop princess. She was the she's a Grammy nominee. She's
very very popular at at this point in time.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So I don't know. Element here.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You've never heard of Sabrina Carpenter, never heard of her before,
So I clearly I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I'm not that connected to the pop culture these days.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
April in Salt Lake City where we are number one,
and we love you Salt Lake for listening to us.
Thank you so much. What's going on, April?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Hi, my favorite men?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Hello, Hi, Hey, I was just thinking that Julia Butters
would be a really good choice.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
She's got that perfect complexion. She's fairest of them all,
but she could be very tan as well.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
She's known for like Gabby and Criminal Minds.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
So she does the role of Ella in a prime
video series Transparent.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
She's been known for Once upon a Time in Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
She's really really.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Cute, good looking actress.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I sent you a picture of her on Facebook Messenger.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Okay, I thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Uh, you have great taste in radio, and we know
that since you say we're your favorite men, you've got
great taste in men, so I'm assuming Julia Butters is
an excellent choice. Play Once again, I don't even know
I've never heard of this person before I you, I
had to look her up. I didn't know who she was,
but she does have a snow white look about her.
I tend to think this would be, you know, kind
of an opportunity where somebody just calls somebody calls in
(04:01):
there like the agent for the individual. I think, unfortunately
the moment has passed because they're not going to make
another snow White movie for a very maybe for the
rest of the life of anybody out there that is here.
By the way, I put up a poll, and I'm
probably gonna get dunked on by my wife for this,
but I have a poll up right now. Is my
(04:21):
wife right am I distracted by Sidney Sweeney's boos and
not making rational choices? Or would Sidney Sweeney in the
role of snow White have made the movie a billion dollars?
You can all go vote in this right now. Eighty
seven percent of you say Sidney Sweeney would have made
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this a billion dollar franchise, so maybe many of you
are also in the audience out there thousands of you
voting at Clay Travis on Twitter, maybe you are also
similarly bedazzled by her decolotage. But most of you are
agreeing with me right now, which Laura Track will still
will still argue the other way. But that is that
(05:03):
is out there on the on the Big Pole day
as well well. I think that maybe this is getting
too deep into the philosophy of this, but I think
that the the left, including the crew, you know, the left,
it used to be predominantly when they were in charge
of Hollywood, and they still are, but things are changing
or Hollywood's not what it used to be. Yeah, they
(05:23):
had left wing politics, but they would have the people
they would put forward who are supposed to be good looking.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
We're very good looking.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I think that the left opposes excellence and beauty as
a general thing, excellences as a general concept, and I
think that they are increasingly they find beauty to be exclusionary,
where you know, it's an exclusive category and therefore it's
not inclusive and therefore it can't be a good thing,
which is why we have, you know, these campaigns of
(05:51):
like very basically very unattractive and weird looking people to
sell clothing for example, which I started in recent Like
this all comes from so there's something psychologically that pushes this.
But this is all failed that they tried to say,
oh no, this is going to expand our that's a lie.
It actually failed dramatically because people, when you're talking about
things where you're buying into it for the brand, for
(06:13):
the story, there should be there's an aspirational quality to this, right,
like when I buy an under Armor shirt, I'm not
going to look like bo Jackson in his prime in
my under Armor shirt, you know, I mean, I will
good good recall there, Yeah, thank you, Yeah, but I'm
not going to look like him. But I still you know,
you aspire to that brand and you see this and
(06:34):
there's sort of a signaling in your brain of like, well,
I want to be a part of that in some way.
Same thing is true with like leading ladies in Hollywood.
You're you know, you're we're allowed to be like, oh,
this is a very beautiful and alluring person who is
on the silver screen, and you know it doesn't have.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
To be.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
All pulled down into the sort of the hoi poloi
and the day to day of everything. The best example
of this Buck is Victoria's Secret. Victoria Secret for a
generation sold, Hey, we want we have these beautiful women
wearing lingerie, and everybody understands that they're not going to
(07:10):
look probably as beautiful as the average Victoria's Secret supermodel,
but is an aspirational desire, and they decided, for body
positivity reasons, we're going to start having basically normal women
modeling the lingerie. And you know what happened. Sales collapsed
because people are looking at like, I don't I want
(07:31):
to aspire to be something that I am not, right,
like the entire aspect of whether you like it or not,
of selling gear to your point, like men wear shoes
because they hope they're going to jump as high as
Michael Jordan. Is that ridiculous, Yes, But the aspiration is
that you can be something like someone who is not normal.
(07:53):
You can aspire to also be a better version of yourself.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
And so they weigh at this.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Way that this I think is manifested in the psychology
and the philosophy of the left, the Democrat party, is
that they are inherently uncomfortable with and want to suppress excellence,
as I said, because it is exclusive right so to
be excellent. Anything means you have to be elite or
(08:20):
better than others in the category. Right, Yeah, to be
an excellent classical musician, flute, to be an excellence, you know,
to be a beauty queen, to be it's the entire
foundation of sports, right, this is why the men and
women's sports this is so important, right, perfect example of this,
So they're you know, you can either elevate what is
(08:41):
excellent and give people something aspirational as a society, or
you can pull everybody down by destroying merit and excellence
in whatever ways that you can, because then they're easier
to control because they're demoralized, and society is now just
one just one sort of formless mass of people who
want to be safe and warm and fed and never
(09:01):
aspire to anything. And this is this is how the
psychology have a left manifests itself more and more in art,
which I think, instead of elevating people, brings people down,
which is a very fancy way of saying, this is
why they turned against hot chicks. You see what I
did there, I stuck the landing. It's also I think
we talked about this a little bit yesterday, but I
(09:23):
do think that you said, Rachel Zegler not good enough
looking to be snow white. I think that's not a
bad argument. I mean, this is an incredibly beautiful I
like how your tiptoe on the clays like, I'm not
sure I'm going to take the heat on that one
with you, buddy.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I think that one.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
By the way, I would one billion percent welcome daily
Mail mediaite headline Clay Travis, fat ugly radio guy says
that Rachel Zegler is not good looking enough to be
snow white. I will second your take. That was your
first take. I will sign on to and I will
co sign it. But the part that I think is
(09:57):
ridiculous is they decided to go with the Latina snow white,
which I think we have to end this race based craziness.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
We talked about this a little bit yesterday, But I
do hope, because Hollywood is such a copy copy, copycat place,
that this idea of having historic figures that are defined
in some way by their physical appearance and claiming that
it doesn't matter. To your point, the black female Viking warrior, Yeah,
that didn't happen, right, Like Bridgerton, Hey, this is set
(10:32):
in a seventeenth or eighteenth century palace in London. I'm sorry,
Like everybody there was white by and large, unless there's
some visiting, you know, foreign country emissary there. So you
telling me, hey, we're trying to deconstruct history by just
having people play roles that they could have never played.
(10:54):
It takes me completely out of the story. Much like
and I'm gonna get more heat for this musicals like
I don't want people to start singing. I like plays.
I was looking.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I'm gonna be up in New York recently.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Buck, I'm gonna go see Othello with Denzel Washington and
Jay Gillenhall playing, which I think will be an amazing
uh Broadway play. They're doing previews for it right now.
I like historic Shakespeare. I like plays. I might even
go see the I'm gonna get heat for this when
I'm up there.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I might even go see this new George.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Clooney uh Broadway play, which is about uh the Edward R.
Murrow I think, or somebody back in the fifties who
was a newscaster. And I know George Clooney is a
super left wing guy, but he's pretty talented actor, I think,
And I know Denzel Washington is one of the greatest
actors of his generation.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I would like to see him on a stage see
I like, I like uh. I like arguing either when
I can.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I don't think George Clooney is a very good actor.
I think he I think he's plays the same thing
and everything he's in. I think he's very one note.
So I'm just I'm gonna throw a flag on this one.
Is a hands away all right. He's handsome, sure is
he is? He a good actor though. I've never seen
George Clooney and anything where I've gone, oh yeah, he
really like leaned into that one.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
It's always the same thing. He's like, look at me,
I'm so handsome, look at my square jaw. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I'm not into it. I don't have a problems. He's
not a full Allugion either. He's not full allusion. Let's
be honest. Allusion is better looking than Clooney. I agree
with you there. I think can we go to the archives.
I think Trump came on the show and ripped George
Clooney with the exact same take that you have last year.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I think I agree on everything, Clay.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I think I think Trump came on and said he's
a TV guy, He's not really a movie star.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
He didn't have that good of a career.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I think I think Trump came on the show it
said that about George Clooney. See if we could track
that down in the archives. I'm gonna go watch the
play and I'm gonna go watch You agree with me
on Denzel like one of the greatest actors, one of
the ten actors of his generation.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yes, Denzel's phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, And so I'm gonna go watch that, I think
in a couple of weeks when I'm up in New
York City. And and my point on that is excellence.
I want to see excellence, and I don't. I would
not go see again. Do you see my point though
about when when you look at when you look at
authoritarian and totalitarian societies, they people are all demoralized and
(13:19):
all they're allowed to aspire to is the will of
the state.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
There.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
This is why you know art is crushed, religion is crushed.
You can't you can't aspire to have real or not
beautiful right like looking buildings.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Absolutely there there is a this is a a.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Beauty across the across the entire platform of the of
the authoritariy because because then people just all they just
want whatever the most basic things are, and they don't
want to be attacked, and they don't they don't want
to be different. And because there is nothing to aspire to,
because there is nothing that you want to become uh
or or that you wants you to try to.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Emulate in some way in your own life.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
You just whatever the state, whatever sort of gruel the
state dishes out on your plate, that is your life.
And this is what you see in like former Soviet
Bloc architecture. And you know, people would talk about some
of the Soviets, you know, they made things a little
more complicated because they took you know, brilliant artists like
Tchaikowski for example, and they had the Bolshoy the ballet,
the state funded ballet. But that was all done before this,
(14:25):
you know, that was all done before Stalin came along, right,
these they didn't produce any good artwork except for dissident writers,
which tells you something in the twentieth century, So the
attack on beauty and the destruction of it as a
concept in whether it's physicality, architecture, music, all these things,
it is actually part of a collectivist and authoritarian playbook.
(14:50):
I mean it always is, right, let me tell you go,
not a lot of interesting new artwork being created in
China these days. Everything that you think of is Chinese culture.
That's you know, interesting and worthwhile. That's before now since
now nothing new. They just copy our stuff and our technology.
And but I mean there's nothing new, and there's a
(15:11):
reason for that, all right. I got a little fired
off about this one. But we need we needed to
take to take this out of the Clay Sydney Sweeney
zone for a second.
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IFCJ dot org. Hi, welcome back into Clay and Buck.
The signal firestorm is dying out. It's the good news.
I think it's dying down. We've seen it all now
and or I think we've seen it all and people
are going to move on to other stuff here soon.
But government's still talking about at the very top level.
(19:15):
So we'll bring you the latest on it in just
moments ago. Pete hegsath Here, Secretary of Defense. Hegsathy Wait,
it's kind of amazing whenever I say that, I'm just like, wow,
Secretary of Defense Hegseth. I remember, dude, we were on
the Blaze together. I actually can't tell you a quick
story about Secretary of Defense head.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yes he is.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
He is a he's a brave fellow, and not just
for the serving his country in the warzone.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Reason.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
We had a I think it was a sponsor who
came in at one point, and it was a it
was a water filtration system, but you know, something you
could carry with you for like camping or something. Right,
it was a little water filtration device. And Pete and
again this was people knew if we talked about this
(20:01):
on the show, this isn't like some you know, behind
the scenes a big thing. But Pete was like, I
really want to try this out. And we were like, yeah, okay,
like go put it, you know, go do some tap
water or something. He went out to the curb in
New York City where there was a puddle, oh god,
and he poured the puddle water into the filtration system
(20:25):
and drink it to test whether or not it worked.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
And he was fine, I hope it worked. But I mean,
that's you're that's trusting your product.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
They offered he he was like it was it was
actually him and Will Kate. If you asked Will Kate,
he was there. He'll remember this too, you know, Will
and him are good friends. And I don't know. I
don't know if Will I should I should ask. I
don't know if we'll drank it. I don't remember, but
I remember what do you think when they were like, Buck,
will you try it? It's like, absolutely not, sir, do
you think I'm a barbarian?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
But Pete was.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
He was drinking that water, no problem. And I remember
I was just like my and he was fine. So
the system worked. But I was not going to be
the guinea pig for that one. So anyway, and now
he's Secretary of Defense, all right, Secretary Defense, eg Set.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
That was a decade ago. Secretary Defense, hag Set.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Here he is, and he's talking about the truth of
the signal chat playing.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Nobody's texting war plans. Well, I noticed this morning out.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
Came something that doesn't look like war plans.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And as a matter of.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
Fact, they even changed the title to attack.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Plans because they know it's not war plans.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
There's no units, no locations.
Speaker 7 (21:30):
No routes, no flight paths, no sources, no methods, no
classified information. You know who sees war plans? I see
them every single day. I looked at them this morning.
I looked at attack plans this morning. You know who
does attack plans and war plans. Men like that Admiral
right there, Paparo for the Indo Pacific.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
Or Eric Carilla are general in Sentcom. They do attack
plans and war plans, and thank god we had those
leaders who do it and do it well and our
enemies know it. My job, as it said at top
of that everybody's seen it now, Team Update, is to
provide updates in real time, general updates in real time,
(22:11):
keep everybody in form.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
That's what I did.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
There.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
You have it, Clay. That is the absolute latest.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I think that this story hopefully is over again unless
there is more that has not been released from the
text exchange that they are going to continue to milk
at the Atlantic.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
So that is going on. There's also this buck which
is pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
The NPR executive had to testify on Capitol Hill today
and I wanted to play this for you because I
was watching it. This just happened earlier today. During the show.
The NPR exec Catherine Maher I think. I'm not sure
how exactly you pronounced her last name, but she has
a history. I remember seeing these of insanely woke I'm
(23:00):
insanely woke tweets, and she was confronted about them. This
is about a minute and a half. This is Congressman
Brandon Gill of Texas bringing up all of her old
tweets about America being addicted to white supremacy. Why in
the world are we giving any money at all to NPR?
(23:21):
Listen to what this sounded like.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
Do you believe that America is addicted to white supremacy?
Speaker 10 (23:27):
I believe that I tweeted that, and as I've said earlier,
I believe much of my thinking has evolved over the
last half decade.
Speaker 11 (23:33):
Do you think the white people should pay reparations?
Speaker 10 (23:36):
I have never said that, sir.
Speaker 11 (23:38):
Yes you did. You said it in January of twenty twenty.
Speaker 9 (23:41):
You tweeted yes, the North, yes, all of us, Yes, America, yes,
our original collective sin and unpaid debt. Yes, reparations, yes
on this day.
Speaker 10 (23:50):
I don't believe that was a reference to fiscal reparations, sir.
Speaker 11 (23:53):
What kind of reparations was it a reference to?
Speaker 10 (23:55):
I think It was just a reference to the idea
that we all owe much to the people who came
before us.
Speaker 11 (24:00):
How much reparations have you personally paid, sir?
Speaker 10 (24:04):
I don't believe that I've ever paid reparations.
Speaker 11 (24:07):
Do you believe that looting is morally wrong?
Speaker 10 (24:09):
I believe that looting is illegal, and I refer to
it as counterproductive. I think it should be prosecuted.
Speaker 11 (24:13):
Do you believe it's morally wrong though? Of course?
Speaker 9 (24:16):
Of course, then why did you refer to it as counterproductive?
The very different, very different way to describe it.
Speaker 10 (24:22):
It is both morally wrong and counterproductive, as well as.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
Being be tweeted, it's hard to be mad about protests.
In reference to the BLM protests not prioritizing the private
property of a system of oppression. You didn't condemn the looting,
you said that it was counter productive. NPR also promoted
a book called in Defensive Looting. Do you think that
that's an appropriate use of taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 10 (24:47):
I'm unfamiliar with that book, sir, and I don't believe
that was at tweeted.
Speaker 11 (24:51):
That you read that book.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I mean, the level of whise these people are under oath,
you would think that they would be very well prepared
for being questioned about what they have said in public.
I just this has to happen this time. I know
people have been talking about it for a long time.
Why in the world does one red cent of our
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tax dollars go to NPR. I've never heard anybody explain
to me why that makes sense. This show isn't funded
by the government, It's funded by our advertisers. We are
out here talking to a large audience because you respond
to us. We're competing within PR. Why would the government
(25:38):
be picking favorites and giving INPR millions and millions of
dollars to help subsidize their programming that otherwise can't pay
for itself. And we're not getting that same benefit. And
we shouldn't Your taxpayer dollars shouldn't be coming to Clay
and Buck. We are advertisers, We've got a business. They
really it has to happen now because if they can't
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shut off the funding spigot for NPR now, Buck, They're
never going to do it.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
They're just going to keep talking about it forever.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
This just becomes a spoils system that continues on with
more and more rapacious and greedy jockeying for access to
the government spoils until it's unsustainable mathematically, and then we
have a financial reset, perhaps a financial collapse. We really
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don't want to go there. This has happened in other places,
in other countries or nations and parts of history, and
it gets really ugly. We don't want that. So whether
anyone's willing to be serious about that now, it is
a mathematical certainty that that is what we will get to.
If we can take matters seriously. Now, we can prevent that.
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Buck here is we were having some fun. You and
President Trump have the exact same opinion on George Clooney.
This is on this very program July twelfth, twenty twenty four,
the day before he was almost assassinated. You know, you
and I almost had the final interview with President Trump
if he had been shot on July thirteenth. This is
(27:13):
Trump calling George Clooney a third rate movie actor. Listen,
do you follow kind of this palace intrigue. It's really
kind of wild. In the two weeks since you knocked
him out in the debate, I mean, they have just
spun completely out of control. And I've been reading that
Barack Obama, George Clooney comes out and says, hey, you
got to drop out. Can you believe how much of
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a dumpster fire they are right now?
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Well, I thought George Clooney was very disloyal, because whether
you like Biden or not, you know, he's been nice
to Clony. I thought it was very disloyal, backstabber, a
third rate movie actor. He was a television actor and
never made really a good movie, and so he's sort
of third rate. He goes as a movie actor at
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pluck gable, he's not. And you know, but I thought
it was I thought it was a great act of disloyalty.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I'm gonna have two things here, Clay. First of all,
amazing recall from you. I did not remember this response
from Trump. And then the second part of this is
he's had so many other things one hundred percent cuts
right to the heart of it. Spot on George Clooney
one of the most overrated actors of his generation, and
Joe you on top of it. I love that you
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and Trump had the same opinion. So if I go
see this Broadway play of George Clooney, you think I'm
making an awful h a awful entertainment decision. I don't
know Sidney Sweeney in it. I mean it depends with
many factors. That's a good point. The comments on the
Sydney Sweeney snow White idea are a gold mine if
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you want to be just laughing. We'll read a few
of those for you when we come back. We'll also
Caroline Levitt had a White House press briefing. By the way,
I think Trump is doing a briefing press conference at
for Eastern, so there's no telling how that's going to go.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
That's a potshorn moment. Caroline was handling the press. Here
we have it.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
We have a SoundBite of her doing this just as
we were all in the air. Let's see, uh, what
kind of mood she's in today? Play it.
Speaker 12 (29:16):
Does the President feel that he was misled by his
national security advisors whoever it was that told him there
was no classified information in there?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Now that he's seen these.
Speaker 12 (29:23):
Messages, I've now been asked to answer this question three
times by the both of you, and I've given you
my answer. The President feels the same today as he
did yesterday. Okay, Phil, and I'm sorry, might follow up
on what you had Just go ahead Philip. I mean
when I'm not taking your.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Follow up, I'm a follow on something you just.
Speaker 12 (29:38):
Said, though, Caroline, that's Caitlin regarding that for taking your
follow up, Philip, go ahead, I have called you.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Hey, look at that just there lapping it down Caroline.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
You know, I spent a lot of time with Caroline
over the weekend and Buck, you and I started having
Carolina on the show, and she was running for Congress
in New Hampshire and at the age of twenty six.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
We saw talent. We saw early.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
We even tried to be honestly, we'll just say we
were gonna bring her into Clay and Buck podcast. Now
it's at one point, and then they offered the job
of being campaign spokesman for Trump, and she's like, I
think I got to do that.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
And we're like, God, blessed, go do that. That's a
good move, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
And you know, she's got an eight month old I
feel like sometimes this just gets lost in the in
the conversation. If there were a Democrat White House Press
secretary performing as ably as right now Caroline Levitt is
and she had an eight month old baby, she would
be girl boss slave queen. You would not be able
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to avoid positive coverage, and I saw I was reading
the other day the Washington Post just ripped Caroline to
shreds for working for Trump. I mean, I do think
the double standards, Like, think about how hard it for
those of you, Buck, you're about to be in this boat.
For those of you who have had uh, you know, infants, babies,
(30:58):
Imagine having a baby while having one of the most
challenging jobs in America. I really do think that's true
White House Press secretary, where everybody is looking for every
single word that you say, dissecting it, trying to rip
you to shreds all the time, doing both those things
so ably at the same time, and yet there's almost
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zero positive coverage about her compared to if she were
working at a Democrat administration, she would be one of
the most praised people in all of the news media.
It's just the disconnect between how she's being treated is
pretty crazy, and I do think it's worthy of taking
note for all of you out there. Caroline's killing it,
doing a great job. Let me tell you, Buck, what
(31:42):
was it? Thirty eight I got right and thirty seven
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I've got a one game lead. Record ratings, highest rated
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Speaker 1 (33:44):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. I appreciate
all of you hanging out with us, and we have
got a lot that's been going on during the course
of the show. Debbie down in Tallahassee, that's where your
in laws live, right.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
She wants to weigh in. This is JJ cut, JJ.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Hi, Clay, Chase, Tuck, You guys are missing the whole point.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
The script for snow White sucks without.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Any I don't care who they put.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
In their actress actor. Whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
The script sucks, Disney would never make it. Can I
just say, Debbie, don't disagree with you. However, Clay just
wants to talk about Sidney Sweeney. He doesn't care, he
doesn't just to make money. I tried to make them
a billion dollars all that. Bob Iger could have called
me up. He would have said, Clay trying to decide
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who to put in snow White. And I would have said, Bob,
Sidney Sweeney's the right call. Trust me. Don't listen to
anybody else. And right now Bob Iger would be sitting
on a big pile of cash.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
He'd be like.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Scrooge McDuck diving into his big vault full of cash
if they made Sidney Sweeney snow White instead. Rachel Zegler
is just lighting Disney's money on fire. She's ripping Trump,
she's talking about how awful America is. She's pro Palestine.
I mean, they it's as if they picked the worst possise.
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You didn't even like snow White. She ripped the original
snow White the idea of Prince Charming. Who plays Prince Charming?
By the way, do we know is Prince Charming even
in the movie? I don't do they write did he
write him out? Is it just a girl? I guess
he's I'm gonna guess he's not very charming based on
how everything else is going.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
So it was a great film.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Saves snow White's life, gives her a kiss, dislodges the
bite of the poisoned apple, all these things great things.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Does it even happen in the new movie? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
It's a fabulous ending. Ray, what do you got for us?
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:56):
You called us Ray fire Away?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yes I did, Yes, I did.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Gabby stole my thunder. I think you guys are missing
it too. I think maybe you've got some retina damage
or something from having to cover Maxine Waters or Randy
wage Garden, Janet Mills, all those ladies. The perfect snow
White would be Caroline Leavitt.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
You just dye her hair blatch.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
She is the personification of snow White.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Burt we Lostrae there.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
I mean, I bet Caroline Levitt could dress up as
snow White for Halloween and pull that off. I hadn't
thought about it. She probably can sing too. I don't know,
she probably can sing. She's multi talented, by the way,
Buck Tomorrow, we're gonna have some fun with this, you
know how. Jasmine Crockett said she wasn't making fun of
Greg Abbott for being in a wheelchair. Turns out she's
made fun of Greg Abbott for being in a wheelchair
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a bunch of times in the past two a Plowmon
Welcome back into Clay and Bucks. Third hour kicks off.
(00:02):
Now we've got a bunch of news stories we're going
to be diving into. But we said we would take
some calls and some talkbacks, and we are none of
our word here, so let's dive into some of these
right now. We've got all lines lit callers from all
over the country. Andrew in Winston Salem, North Carolina, you're
up first.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, hey, thanks guys, first time been able to get
into y'all. I've been tried many times, but this is
the number one news station or news radio in the
country right here.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Hey man, thank you for listening.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
H oh absolutely so. My casting choice would be Sabrina
Carpenter for snow White. I think she has caught the
apple of the American eyes and many different demographics. I
think she handles herself really well and it's not afraid
to make fun of herself. I think she would promote
snow White much better than mss Zegler. And there's a
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lot of people in the music industry icons that want
to work with her and have like Paul Simon, and
I'm sure Dolly Parton wants to work with her in
the future.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I thank you, though, who thank you so much for
the call of Clay. Do you know who Sabrina Carpenter is.
I've never heard of her, nor have I ever seen
her before. She is insanely famous musician, So that is
really funny that you have never heard of her. It's
like the Morgan Wallen situation on can I just do.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
One of those? Is she a country music person?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I'm not an first of all, I am tone deaf,
so I am not a great judge of incredible singing
talent or anything else. But she is one of the
most famous young singers out there right now, so I
think that she would likely potentially do very well. She's pretty.
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She's got that sort of alabaster skin airful, the fetut
butterskin line. Say that I knew you were going to
talk about that quote.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
From I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I don't know if I ever talked about the color
of skin of somebody in a positive way. So the
alabaster skin line is just you know, she's she's white,
I mean snow white is white as as as a
big part of her appeal, and it's like not a
super tan skin.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
But uh, but it is.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Very funny in and of itself and uh, and there
are a lot of people. She is a called a
pop princess. She was the she's a Grammy nominee. She's
very very popular at at this point in time.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So I don't know. Element here.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You've never heard of Sabrina Carpenter, never heard of her before,
So I clearly I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I'm not that connected to the pop culture these days.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
April in Salt Lake City where we are number one,
and we love you Salt Lake for listening to us.
Thank you so much. What's going on, April?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Hi, my favorite men?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Hello, Hi, Hey, I was just thinking that Julia Butters
would be a really good choice.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
She's got that perfect complexion. She's fairest of them all,
but she could be very tan as well.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
She's known for like Gabby and Criminal Minds.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
So she does the role of Ella in a prime
video series Transparent.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
She's been known for Once upon a Time in Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
She's really really.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Cute, good looking actress.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I sent you a picture of her on Facebook Messenger.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Okay, I thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Uh, you have great taste in radio, and we know
that since you say we're your favorite men, you've got
great taste in men, so I'm assuming Julia Butters is
an excellent choice. Play Once again, I don't even know
I've never heard of this person before I you, I
had to look her up. I didn't know who she was,
but she does have a snow white look about her.
I tend to think this would be, you know, kind
of an opportunity where somebody just calls somebody calls in
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there like the agent for the individual. I think, unfortunately
the moment has passed because they're not going to make
another snow White movie for a very maybe for the
rest of the life of anybody out there that is here.
By the way, I put up a poll, and I'm
probably gonna get dunked on by my wife for this,
but I have a poll up right now. Is my
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wife right am I distracted by Sidney Sweeney's boos and
not making rational choices? Or would Sidney Sweeney in the
role of snow White have made the movie a billion dollars?
You can all go vote in this right now. Eighty
seven percent of you say Sidney Sweeney would have made
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this a billion dollar franchise, so maybe many of you
are also in the audience out there thousands of you
voting at Clay Travis on Twitter, maybe you are also
similarly bedazzled by her decolotage. But most of you are
agreeing with me right now, which Laura Track will still
will still argue the other way. But that is that
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is out there on the on the Big Pole day
as well well. I think that maybe this is getting
too deep into the philosophy of this, but I think
that the the left, including the crew, you know, the left,
it used to be predominantly when they were in charge
of Hollywood, and they still are, but things are changing
or Hollywood's not what it used to be. Yeah, they
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had left wing politics, but they would have the people
they would put forward who are supposed to be good looking.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
We're very good looking.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I think that the left opposes excellence and beauty as
a general thing, excellences as a general concept, and I
think that they are increasingly they find beauty to be exclusionary,
where you know, it's an exclusive category and therefore it's
not inclusive and therefore it can't be a good thing,
which is why we have, you know, these campaigns of
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like very basically very unattractive and weird looking people to
sell clothing for example, which I started in recent Like
this all comes from so there's something psychologically that pushes this.
But this is all failed that they tried to say,
oh no, this is going to expand our that's a lie.
It actually failed dramatically because people, when you're talking about
things where you're buying into it for the brand, for
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the story, there should be there's an aspirational quality to this, right,
like when I buy an under Armor shirt, I'm not
going to look like bo Jackson in his prime in
my under Armor shirt, you know, I mean, I will
good good recall there, Yeah, thank you, Yeah, but I'm
not going to look like him. But I still you know,
you aspire to that brand and you see this and
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there's sort of a signaling in your brain of like, well,
I want to be a part of that in some way.
Same thing is true with like leading ladies in Hollywood.
You're you know, you're we're allowed to be like, oh,
this is a very beautiful and alluring person who is
on the silver screen, and you know it doesn't have.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
To be.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
All pulled down into the sort of the hoi poloi
and the day to day of everything. The best example
of this Buck is Victoria's Secret. Victoria Secret for a
generation sold, Hey, we want we have these beautiful women
wearing lingerie, and everybody understands that they're not going to
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look probably as beautiful as the average Victoria's Secret supermodel,
but is an aspirational desire, and they decided, for body
positivity reasons, we're going to start having basically normal women
modeling the lingerie. And you know what happened. Sales collapsed
because people are looking at like, I don't I want
(07:31):
to aspire to be something that I am not, right,
like the entire aspect of whether you like it or not,
of selling gear to your point, like men wear shoes
because they hope they're going to jump as high as
Michael Jordan. Is that ridiculous, Yes, But the aspiration is
that you can be something like someone who is not normal.
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You can aspire to also be a better version of yourself.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
And so they weigh at this.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Way that this I think is manifested in the psychology
and the philosophy of the left, the Democrat party, is
that they are inherently uncomfortable with and want to suppress excellence,
as I said, because it is exclusive right so to
be excellent. Anything means you have to be elite or
(08:20):
better than others in the category. Right, Yeah, to be
an excellent classical musician, flute, to be an excellence, you know,
to be a beauty queen, to be it's the entire
foundation of sports, right, this is why the men and
women's sports this is so important, right, perfect example of this,
So they're you know, you can either elevate what is
(08:41):
excellent and give people something aspirational as a society, or
you can pull everybody down by destroying merit and excellence
in whatever ways that you can, because then they're easier
to control because they're demoralized, and society is now just
one just one sort of formless mass of people who
want to be safe and warm and fed and never
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aspire to anything. And this is this is how the
psychology have a left manifests itself more and more in art,
which I think, instead of elevating people, brings people down,
which is a very fancy way of saying, this is
why they turned against hot chicks. You see what I
did there, I stuck the landing. It's also I think
we talked about this a little bit yesterday, but I
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do think that you said, Rachel Zegler not good enough
looking to be snow white. I think that's not a
bad argument. I mean, this is an incredibly beautiful I
like how your tiptoe on the clays like, I'm not
sure I'm going to take the heat on that one
with you, buddy.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I think that one.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
By the way, I would one billion percent welcome daily
Mail mediaite headline Clay Travis, fat ugly radio guy says
that Rachel Zegler is not good looking enough to be
snow white. I will second your take. That was your
first take. I will sign on to and I will
co sign it. But the part that I think is
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ridiculous is they decided to go with the Latina snow white,
which I think we have to end this race based craziness.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
We talked about this a little bit yesterday, But I
do hope, because Hollywood is such a copy copy, copycat place,
that this idea of having historic figures that are defined
in some way by their physical appearance and claiming that
it doesn't matter. To your point, the black female Viking warrior, Yeah,
that didn't happen, right, Like Bridgerton, Hey, this is set
(10:32):
in a seventeenth or eighteenth century palace in London. I'm sorry,
Like everybody there was white by and large, unless there's
some visiting, you know, foreign country emissary there. So you
telling me, hey, we're trying to deconstruct history by just
having people play roles that they could have never played.
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It takes me completely out of the story. Much like
and I'm gonna get more heat for this musicals like
I don't want people to start singing. I like plays.
I was looking.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I'm gonna be up in New York recently.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Buck, I'm gonna go see Othello with Denzel Washington and
Jay Gillenhall playing, which I think will be an amazing
uh Broadway play. They're doing previews for it right now.
I like historic Shakespeare. I like plays. I might even
go see the I'm gonna get heat for this when
I'm up there.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I might even go see this new George.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Clooney uh Broadway play, which is about uh the Edward R.
Murrow I think, or somebody back in the fifties who
was a newscaster. And I know George Clooney is a
super left wing guy, but he's pretty talented actor, I think,
And I know Denzel Washington is one of the greatest
actors of his generation.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I would like to see him on a stage see
I like, I like uh. I like arguing either when
I can.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I don't think George Clooney is a very good actor.
I think he I think he's plays the same thing
and everything he's in. I think he's very one note.
So I'm just I'm gonna throw a flag on this one.
Is a hands away all right. He's handsome, sure is
he is? He a good actor though. I've never seen
George Clooney and anything where I've gone, oh yeah, he
really like leaned into that one.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
It's always the same thing. He's like, look at me,
I'm so handsome, look at my square jaw. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I'm not into it. I don't have a problems. He's
not a full Allugion either. He's not full allusion. Let's
be honest. Allusion is better looking than Clooney. I agree
with you there. I think can we go to the archives.
I think Trump came on the show and ripped George
Clooney with the exact same take that you have last year.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I think I agree on everything, Clay.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I think I think Trump came on and said he's
a TV guy, He's not really a movie star.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
He didn't have that good of a career.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I think I think Trump came on the show it
said that about George Clooney. See if we could track
that down in the archives. I'm gonna go watch the
play and I'm gonna go watch You agree with me
on Denzel like one of the greatest actors, one of
the ten actors of his generation.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yes, Denzel's phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, And so I'm gonna go watch that, I think
in a couple of weeks when I'm up in New
York City. And and my point on that is excellence.
I want to see excellence, and I don't. I would
not go see again. Do you see my point though
about when when you look at when you look at
authoritarian and totalitarian societies, they people are all demoralized and
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all they're allowed to aspire to is the will of
the state.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
There.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
This is why you know art is crushed, religion is crushed.
You can't you can't aspire to have real or not
beautiful right like looking buildings.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Absolutely there there is a this is a a.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Beauty across the across the entire platform of the of
the authoritariy because because then people just all they just
want whatever the most basic things are, and they don't
want to be attacked, and they don't they don't want
to be different. And because there is nothing to aspire to,
because there is nothing that you want to become uh
or or that you wants you to try to.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Emulate in some way in your own life.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
You just whatever the state, whatever sort of gruel the
state dishes out on your plate, that is your life.
And this is what you see in like former Soviet
Bloc architecture. And you know, people would talk about some
of the Soviets, you know, they made things a little
more complicated because they took you know, brilliant artists like
Tchaikowski for example, and they had the Bolshoy the ballet,
the state funded ballet. But that was all done before this,
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you know, that was all done before Stalin came along, right,
these they didn't produce any good artwork except for dissident writers,
which tells you something in the twentieth century, So the
attack on beauty and the destruction of it as a
concept in whether it's physicality, architecture, music, all these things,
it is actually part of a collectivist and authoritarian playbook.
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I mean it always is, right, let me tell you go,
not a lot of interesting new artwork being created in
China these days. Everything that you think of is Chinese culture.
That's you know, interesting and worthwhile. That's before now since
now nothing new. They just copy our stuff and our technology.
And but I mean there's nothing new, and there's a
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reason for that, all right. I got a little fired
off about this one. But we need we needed to
take to take this out of the Clay Sydney Sweeney
zone for a second.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Here, you're a funny you're you are. She would have
made a bill, she would have made a billion dollars.
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I'm just trying to help Disney out, trying to help
the company out, and they won't listen to me. So
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We'll play some of those for you in a moment.
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Good friend of the show, Tommy Laren has weigh in
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Dominic opening night, I'm there, he agrees with me. Sidney
Sweetey Superman himself. Dean Caine, who has been on the show, says,
both my wife and I have good points. The comments
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The signal firestorm is dying out. It's the good news.
I think it's dying down. We've seen it all now
and or I think we've seen it all and people
are going to move on to other stuff here soon.
But government's still talking about at the very top level.
(19:15):
So we'll bring you the latest on it in just
moments ago. Pete hegsath Here, Secretary of Defense. Hegsathy Wait,
it's kind of amazing whenever I say that, I'm just like, wow,
Secretary of Defense Hegseth. I remember, dude, we were on
the Blaze together. I actually can't tell you a quick
story about Secretary of Defense head.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yes he is.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
He is a he's a brave fellow, and not just
for the serving his country in the warzone.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Reason.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
We had a I think it was a sponsor who
came in at one point, and it was a it
was a water filtration system, but you know, something you
could carry with you for like camping or something. Right,
it was a little water filtration device. And Pete and
again this was people knew if we talked about this
(20:01):
on the show, this isn't like some you know, behind
the scenes a big thing. But Pete was like, I
really want to try this out. And we were like, yeah, okay,
like go put it, you know, go do some tap
water or something. He went out to the curb in
New York City where there was a puddle, oh god,
and he poured the puddle water into the filtration system
(20:25):
and drink it to test whether or not it worked.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
And he was fine, I hope it worked. But I mean,
that's you're that's trusting your product.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
They offered he he was like it was it was
actually him and Will Kate. If you asked Will Kate,
he was there. He'll remember this too, you know, Will
and him are good friends. And I don't know. I
don't know if Will I should I should ask. I
don't know if we'll drank it. I don't remember, but
I remember what do you think when they were like, Buck,
will you try it? It's like, absolutely not, sir, do
you think I'm a barbarian?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
But Pete was.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
He was drinking that water, no problem. And I remember
I was just like my and he was fine. So
the system worked. But I was not going to be
the guinea pig for that one. So anyway, and now
he's Secretary of Defense, all right, Secretary Defense, eg Set.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
That was a decade ago. Secretary Defense, hag Set.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Here he is, and he's talking about the truth of
the signal chat playing.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Nobody's texting war plans. Well, I noticed this morning out.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
Came something that doesn't look like war plans.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And as a matter of.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
Fact, they even changed the title to attack.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Plans because they know it's not war plans.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
There's no units, no locations.
Speaker 7 (21:30):
No routes, no flight paths, no sources, no methods, no
classified information. You know who sees war plans? I see
them every single day. I looked at them this morning.
I looked at attack plans this morning. You know who
does attack plans and war plans. Men like that Admiral
right there, Paparo for the Indo Pacific.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
Or Eric Carilla are general in Sentcom. They do attack
plans and war plans, and thank god we had those
leaders who do it and do it well and our
enemies know it. My job, as it said at top
of that everybody's seen it now, Team Update, is to
provide updates in real time, general updates in real time,
(22:11):
keep everybody in form.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
That's what I did.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
There.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
You have it, Clay. That is the absolute latest.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I think that this story hopefully is over again unless
there is more that has not been released from the
text exchange that they are going to continue to milk
at the Atlantic.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
So that is going on. There's also this buck which
is pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
The NPR executive had to testify on Capitol Hill today
and I wanted to play this for you because I
was watching it. This just happened earlier today. During the show.
The NPR exec Catherine Maher I think. I'm not sure
how exactly you pronounced her last name, but she has
a history. I remember seeing these of insanely woke I'm
(23:00):
insanely woke tweets, and she was confronted about them. This
is about a minute and a half. This is Congressman
Brandon Gill of Texas bringing up all of her old
tweets about America being addicted to white supremacy. Why in
the world are we giving any money at all to NPR?
(23:21):
Listen to what this sounded like.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
Do you believe that America is addicted to white supremacy?
Speaker 10 (23:27):
I believe that I tweeted that, and as I've said earlier,
I believe much of my thinking has evolved over the
last half decade.
Speaker 11 (23:33):
Do you think the white people should pay reparations?
Speaker 10 (23:36):
I have never said that, sir.
Speaker 11 (23:38):
Yes you did. You said it in January of twenty twenty.
Speaker 9 (23:41):
You tweeted yes, the North, yes, all of us, Yes, America, yes,
our original collective sin and unpaid debt. Yes, reparations, yes
on this day.
Speaker 10 (23:50):
I don't believe that was a reference to fiscal reparations, sir.
Speaker 11 (23:53):
What kind of reparations was it a reference to?
Speaker 10 (23:55):
I think It was just a reference to the idea
that we all owe much to the people who came
before us.
Speaker 11 (24:00):
How much reparations have you personally paid, sir?
Speaker 10 (24:04):
I don't believe that I've ever paid reparations.
Speaker 11 (24:07):
Do you believe that looting is morally wrong?
Speaker 10 (24:09):
I believe that looting is illegal, and I refer to
it as counterproductive. I think it should be prosecuted.
Speaker 11 (24:13):
Do you believe it's morally wrong though? Of course?
Speaker 9 (24:16):
Of course, then why did you refer to it as counterproductive?
The very different, very different way to describe it.
Speaker 10 (24:22):
It is both morally wrong and counterproductive, as well as.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
Being be tweeted, it's hard to be mad about protests.
In reference to the BLM protests not prioritizing the private
property of a system of oppression. You didn't condemn the looting,
you said that it was counter productive. NPR also promoted
a book called in Defensive Looting. Do you think that
that's an appropriate use of taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 10 (24:47):
I'm unfamiliar with that book, sir, and I don't believe
that was at tweeted.
Speaker 11 (24:51):
That you read that book.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I mean, the level of whise these people are under oath,
you would think that they would be very well prepared
for being questioned about what they have said in public.
I just this has to happen this time. I know
people have been talking about it for a long time.
Why in the world does one red cent of our
(25:15):
tax dollars go to NPR. I've never heard anybody explain
to me why that makes sense. This show isn't funded
by the government, It's funded by our advertisers. We are
out here talking to a large audience because you respond
to us. We're competing within PR. Why would the government
(25:38):
be picking favorites and giving INPR millions and millions of
dollars to help subsidize their programming that otherwise can't pay
for itself. And we're not getting that same benefit. And
we shouldn't Your taxpayer dollars shouldn't be coming to Clay
and Buck. We are advertisers, We've got a business. They
really it has to happen now because if they can't
(26:01):
shut off the funding spigot for NPR now, Buck, They're
never going to do it.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
They're just going to keep talking about it forever.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
This just becomes a spoils system that continues on with
more and more rapacious and greedy jockeying for access to
the government spoils until it's unsustainable mathematically, and then we
have a financial reset, perhaps a financial collapse. We really
(26:29):
don't want to go there. This has happened in other places,
in other countries or nations and parts of history, and
it gets really ugly. We don't want that. So whether
anyone's willing to be serious about that now, it is
a mathematical certainty that that is what we will get to.
If we can take matters seriously. Now, we can prevent that.
(26:51):
Buck here is we were having some fun. You and
President Trump have the exact same opinion on George Clooney.
This is on this very program July twelfth, twenty twenty four,
the day before he was almost assassinated. You know, you
and I almost had the final interview with President Trump
if he had been shot on July thirteenth. This is
(27:13):
Trump calling George Clooney a third rate movie actor. Listen,
do you follow kind of this palace intrigue. It's really
kind of wild. In the two weeks since you knocked
him out in the debate, I mean, they have just
spun completely out of control. And I've been reading that
Barack Obama, George Clooney comes out and says, hey, you
got to drop out. Can you believe how much of
(27:34):
a dumpster fire they are right now?
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Well, I thought George Clooney was very disloyal, because whether
you like Biden or not, you know, he's been nice
to Clony. I thought it was very disloyal, backstabber, a
third rate movie actor. He was a television actor and
never made really a good movie, and so he's sort
of third rate. He goes as a movie actor at
(27:57):
pluck gable, he's not. And you know, but I thought
it was I thought it was a great act of disloyalty.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I'm gonna have two things here, Clay. First of all,
amazing recall from you. I did not remember this response
from Trump. And then the second part of this is
he's had so many other things one hundred percent cuts
right to the heart of it. Spot on George Clooney
one of the most overrated actors of his generation, and
Joe you on top of it. I love that you
(28:25):
and Trump had the same opinion. So if I go
see this Broadway play of George Clooney, you think I'm
making an awful h a awful entertainment decision. I don't
know Sidney Sweeney in it. I mean it depends with
many factors. That's a good point. The comments on the
Sydney Sweeney snow White idea are a gold mine if
(28:49):
you want to be just laughing. We'll read a few
of those for you when we come back. We'll also
Caroline Levitt had a White House press briefing. By the way,
I think Trump is doing a briefing press conference at
for Eastern, so there's no telling how that's going to go.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
That's a potshorn moment. Caroline was handling the press. Here
we have it.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
We have a SoundBite of her doing this just as
we were all in the air. Let's see, uh, what
kind of mood she's in today? Play it.
Speaker 12 (29:16):
Does the President feel that he was misled by his
national security advisors whoever it was that told him there
was no classified information in there?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Now that he's seen these.
Speaker 12 (29:23):
Messages, I've now been asked to answer this question three
times by the both of you, and I've given you
my answer. The President feels the same today as he
did yesterday. Okay, Phil, and I'm sorry, might follow up
on what you had Just go ahead Philip. I mean
when I'm not taking your.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Follow up, I'm a follow on something you just.
Speaker 12 (29:38):
Said, though, Caroline, that's Caitlin regarding that for taking your
follow up, Philip, go ahead, I have called you.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Hey, look at that just there lapping it down Caroline.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
You know, I spent a lot of time with Caroline
over the weekend and Buck, you and I started having
Carolina on the show, and she was running for Congress
in New Hampshire and at the age of twenty six.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
We saw talent. We saw early.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
We even tried to be honestly, we'll just say we
were gonna bring her into Clay and Buck podcast. Now
it's at one point, and then they offered the job
of being campaign spokesman for Trump, and she's like, I
think I got to do that.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
And we're like, God, blessed, go do that. That's a
good move, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
And you know, she's got an eight month old I
feel like sometimes this just gets lost in the in
the conversation. If there were a Democrat White House Press
secretary performing as ably as right now Caroline Levitt is
and she had an eight month old baby, she would
be girl boss slave queen. You would not be able
(30:37):
to avoid positive coverage, and I saw I was reading
the other day the Washington Post just ripped Caroline to
shreds for working for Trump. I mean, I do think
the double standards, Like, think about how hard it for
those of you, Buck, you're about to be in this boat.
For those of you who have had uh, you know, infants, babies,
(30:58):
Imagine having a baby while having one of the most
challenging jobs in America. I really do think that's true
White House Press secretary, where everybody is looking for every
single word that you say, dissecting it, trying to rip
you to shreds all the time, doing both those things
so ably at the same time, and yet there's almost
(31:18):
zero positive coverage about her compared to if she were
working at a Democrat administration, she would be one of
the most praised people in all of the news media.
It's just the disconnect between how she's being treated is
pretty crazy, and I do think it's worthy of taking
note for all of you out there. Caroline's killing it,
doing a great job. Let me tell you, Buck, what
(31:42):
was it? Thirty eight I got right and thirty seven
you got right. In the NCAA tournament so far, record
right on his heels. I'm hot on his heels everyone.
I've got a one game lead. Record ratings, highest rated
NCAA tournament since nineteen ninety two. Some are saying that's
entirely because Buck Sexton has filled out a bracket and
become aware that the NCAA Tournament now exists. People are
(32:05):
watching it like crazy. Tomorrow starts a Sweet sixteen. I
have got picks for all of you. All right, here
is the winner Buck for prize picks. This is for
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maybe the best player in the tournament overall. He's going
to score more than one half point. You have to
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effectively a free square like on bingo. You can't lose
that one then tomorrow, sorry Friday. Zachai Ziggler, point guard
for Tennessee game against Kentucky. He's going to have more
than eleven and a half points. And then Walter Clayton,
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junior talented guard for the University of Florida, alma mater
of Buck's lovely wife Carrie. He is going to have
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. I appreciate
all of you hanging out with us, and we have
got a lot that's been going on during the course
of the show. Debbie down in Tallahassee, that's where your
in laws live, right.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
She wants to weigh in. This is JJ cut, JJ.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Hi, Clay, Chase, Tuck, You guys are missing the whole point.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
The script for snow White sucks without.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Any I don't care who they put.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
In their actress actor. Whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
The script sucks, Disney would never make it. Can I
just say, Debbie, don't disagree with you. However, Clay just
wants to talk about Sidney Sweeney. He doesn't care, he
doesn't just to make money. I tried to make them
a billion dollars all that. Bob Iger could have called
me up. He would have said, Clay trying to decide
(34:39):
who to put in snow White. And I would have said, Bob,
Sidney Sweeney's the right call. Trust me. Don't listen to
anybody else. And right now Bob Iger would be sitting
on a big pile of cash.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
He'd be like.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Scrooge McDuck diving into his big vault full of cash
if they made Sidney Sweeney snow White instead. Rachel Zegler
is just lighting Disney's money on fire. She's ripping Trump,
she's talking about how awful America is. She's pro Palestine.
I mean, they it's as if they picked the worst possise.
(35:16):
You didn't even like snow White. She ripped the original
snow White the idea of Prince Charming. Who plays Prince Charming?
By the way, do we know is Prince Charming even
in the movie? I don't do they write did he
write him out? Is it just a girl? I guess
he's I'm gonna guess he's not very charming based on
how everything else is going.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
So it was a great film.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Saves snow White's life, gives her a kiss, dislodges the
bite of the poisoned apple, all these things great things.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Does it even happen in the new movie? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
It's a fabulous ending. Ray, what do you got for us?
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:56):
You called us Ray fire Away?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yes I did, Yes, I did.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Gabby stole my thunder. I think you guys are missing
it too. I think maybe you've got some retina damage
or something from having to cover Maxine Waters or Randy
wage Garden, Janet Mills, all those ladies. The perfect snow
White would be Caroline Leavitt.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
You just dye her hair blatch.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
She is the personification of snow White.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Burt we Lostrae there.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
I mean, I bet Caroline Levitt could dress up as
snow White for Halloween and pull that off. I hadn't
thought about it. She probably can sing too. I don't know,
she probably can sing. She's multi talented, by the way,
Buck Tomorrow, we're gonna have some fun with this, you
know how. Jasmine Crockett said she wasn't making fun of
Greg Abbott for being in a wheelchair. Turns out she's
made fun of Greg Abbott for being in a wheelchair
(36:53):
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