April 4, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show begins with a discussion on the stock market downturn, highlighting the S&P 500's 4% drop and the Dow Jones Industrial Average's 1600-point fall. The hosts address China's retaliatory 34% tariff on US goods in response to President Trump's actions. Despite the market turbulence, they share positive news about the jobs numbers, with non-farm payrolls exceeding estimates at 228,000 jobs added, and the unemployment rate rising slightly to 4.2%.
The conversation shifts to the impact of tariffs on the economy, emphasizing the strategic calculation behind Trump's decisions and the potential long-term benefits for American manufacturing. Clay and Buck discuss the importance of investing in index funds and maintaining a long-term perspective on the stock market, citing Warren Buffet's investment philosophy.
Listeners' concerns about job cuts and price increases are addressed, with the hosts acknowledging the potential short-term pain but emphasizing the need for patience and strategic planning. They highlight the political implications of Trump's actions, noting the Democrats' focus on the stock market as a measure of his performance.
Senator Tommy Tuberville joins the show, discussing the economic reset under Trump's administration and the need for drastic changes to address the country's challenges. He also addresses the issue of transgender athletes in women's sports, sharing the story of Stephanie Turner, a young woman who refused to compete against a male athlete in a fencing tournament.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
John Bachelor's on seven to ten WR Tonight at nine.
But now here come Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Welcome back into the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Interesting day in the economy, some stuff happening. You may
have heard in the markets.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
SMPS five hundreds sliding down four percentage points, the Dow
Jones industrial average has fallen sixteen hundred, and China has
thrown a thirty four percent tariff back at us in
response to what Trump is doing. That all said it
was a good day on the jobs numbers front. Like
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to bring you a little good news with all of
this as well. And here is the man who kicked
off the tea party back in twenty ten, Rick sent
Telly of CNBC talking about those jobs numbers and pretty
good play.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
One non farm payrolls beats estimates two hundred and twenty
eight thousand jobs. That would be the strongest this year,
and it would comp to three hundred and twenty three thousand.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
And dace of last year.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
There is, however, a minus forty eight thousand two month
revision minus forty eight k. Now, let's go for the
unemployment rate, shall we expected four point one moves up
to four point two. That equals where we were in November.
Labor force participation rate coming in at sixty two point five.
(01:30):
That is indeed good news. It's up to ten from
both expectations and the rearview mirror.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
All right, so we've got healthcare, social assistance, transportation sectors
adding jobs. The two hundred and twenty eight thousand number
for last month solid looking good, a healthy, healthy increase
there in the jobs. And this is coming out of
time also when the Doze Efficiency Task Force has had
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some layoffs federal governor employees to climb by just four
thousand in March, they dropped eleven thousand in February. President
Trump welcomed in all apps play the jobs numbers with
this quote, it's already working, Hank tough. We can't lose, okay.
So Trump is not backing down at all on this.
(02:19):
I want to get to more of our calls and talkbacks,
so I know people just we need to hear everybody
out on this. A lot of diverse opinions about it,
but for you, I feel like you and I see
this largely from a similar perspective of there's definitely no
need for panic, and this could be a very good thing,
and if it's not a good thing, he'll fix it.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
And also the stock prices, if you are out there,
the stock prices are basically the same as they were
in May of last year. And I know people don't
spend a lot of time looking at historic averages, but
over ten years, on average, the S and P five
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hundred is going to double basically every ten years. If
you buy index funds and you put them away in
your drawer and you basically don't look at them on
year to year basis, keep buying because you keep rolling
that money in, because you believe in the long range
success of America. It's the best possible thing you can do.
(03:24):
So when I sold my company, I mostly bought S
and P five hundred index funds back in twenty twenty one.
I sit them there, I don't touch them, and I
keep adding to them, and that is that's my general
investment plan. Now, I like real estate, buy a lot
of different things there. But I'm telling you guys to
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do the same thing that I do, and I think
it's basically the best financial advice you can get. Put
them in a drawer, don't look at them, check them
once a month. If you want to check them once
every six months, even better, and over time you're going
to have good results. It's when you are trying to
time the market that you oftentimes get caught, because most
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people don't. And again, the most brilliant investor of any
of our lives is Warren Buffett, and his most famous
quote is be greedy when others are scared, fearful, and
be fearful when others are greedy.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Right, Basically, you're taking.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Whatever the masses are doing. The masses are often wrong
because the masses are ruled oftentimes by emotion. I think
you need to have a long range view.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Right, Well, you're you're taking a particularly in that in
that last discussion, play an investor view on this. A
lot of a lot of our people, a lot of
our listeners, a lot of our friends all across the country,
they don't even really think about this as investors. So
what what affects them more? Or rather, I think what
they're more concerned about? First and foremost jobs. Will there
be job cuts, substantial job cuts in the private sector
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at companies as a result of this, So that's the
that's a concern. And then also prices. I mean, I
have seen some pretty in depth analysis online from some
smart folks on the financial side of things who say
that this could cause a real increase in prices, at
least over the short term. So I think those are
things that Trump is going to have to watch very
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very closely, very carefully. There is definitely a feeling among
a lot of the MAGA faithful that if Wall Street
has to take a fifteen or twenty percent haircut for
a while, so be it. But if the joblessness rate
starts to go up substantially, and if the price of
goods that people need, not that they kind of want,
(05:37):
not luxuryause, the price of food, gas, electricity, if that
starts to go up substantially as a result of this,
then there's going to be pressure on the program.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
About sixty percent, we'll take some of your calls in
reaction to here. About sixty percent is the number that
I have seen people own stock in America. That is,
you either own individual stocks or your four oh one
K or your pension. Does what percentage of our audience
do you think is invested eighty I would think it's
higher than the general consensus. But to your point, Buck,
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if you're not a stock market investor. It is somewhat
funny to me that Democrats rail all the time about
the wealthy, the billionaire class, even though the billionaire class
by and large actually votes Democrat and supports them more.
But they rail all the time about the billionaire class.
As soon as the stock market starts going down, it's
a calamity. Well, if you don't really care that much
about the billionaire class, or they don't need the money
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that they have, why would you be focused on the
stock market. I think it's because they need a tangible
something to grab onto to say Trump is doing a
horrible job. They can't say it on the border, they
can't say it on violent crime, they can't say it
on deportations. They can right now argue, oh, the stock
market is down since Trump got elected, and that is
really their only move. They were trying to argue eggs.
(06:50):
Egg prices are down. We told you gas prices are
going to be coming down soon because the barrel of
oil is at a record low for the last four
year years or so. So whatever you're paying at the
pump for your gallon of gas going to be well
under three dollars on average. Because somebody's gonna tell me, Hey,
I live in San Francisco and my okay, on average,
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the passive pricement unleaded gallon of gas going to be
under three dollars, maybe even going under two fifty. That's
where I think most people kind of gauge how the
economy's going. My concern, if I had one buck, is
if you run a business and you've been running the
business based on the expected outcome of the rules being X,
and suddenly you find out the rules are, why do
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you draw back and not spend the money that you
had been spending planning to spend? That is my concern
why we need to If you were asking me, hey, Clay,
what concerns you here, it's the ability of business to
plan and they now have unexpected realities and it takes
sometimes years for businesses to invest substantial dollars. But we've
(07:55):
got a lot of people out there who want a
way in. Who should We just want to say, Clay,
real quick before we get to the we're to the calls.
I mean, just the thing we want to avoid here, right, Stagflation.
You're going to hear people talking about it. Stagflation is
high inflation, slow economic growth, high unemployment. So to your
point about the investing and and particularly for businesses and
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their balance sheets, that's something you want to because if
they're not investing and they're cutting and they're not hiring,
and we continue to have inflation chipping away and we
have high prices, then things start to start to pinch.
That's that's not a good place to be, right. Let's
get to those calls. As you said, we have Neil
in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. What's going on?
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Neil?
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Hey, guys, I have a little bit of a different
take on it. I'm a big Trump supporter, voted for
him three times, and he's done a lot of great
stuff on the tariff. I wasn't expecting this. It seems
like he's going to financial war with the entire world.
What I thought he was going to do was to
take away the incentive from companies to have a plant
here and move it to Mexico because it's too to
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make it there and the company.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
Makes more money.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
I mean, a nice thing about having a plant in
your town is that a big company. You got lots
of jobs there, thousands of jobs, But that leaves you
don't have that anymore. The only people that are making
money are the owners of the company and the investors
in the company. I thought Trump would figure out a
way to take away that incentive, and that would have
been the tariff. That if you're saving ten thousand dollars
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per vehicle to make your truck in China or Mexico,
let's put a ten thousand dollars tariff on that so
that it costs you the same to make it here,
but just keep the factories here and that would be
more jobs.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Well, I think, sorry to cut you off theill. I
think that is a goal, right. The goal in a
terror free world would be that American commerce can compete
more fairly around the world. And again it does from
a purely analytical perspective, I think most economists would say
we shouldn't have tariffs, right.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I think that's what they say.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Because then the free world, like for instance, by and large,
we don't have The reason the United States has been
able to be so successful as a huge economic heavyweight
is because we don't have fifty different tax tariffs. When
you're trying to sell a good in California, by and large,
you don't have to pay way more to get to Texas,
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or you don't have to pay way more to get
to Michigan or whatever it is.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I know there's costs of shipping all those things. I'm
not talking about the cost there. I'm saying, by and large,
there isn't a tariff because inside of the United States.
It's why Trump has said Canada should come in. We
don't have tariff for regulation between states. You're not paying
massive amounts. I know, I'm gonna get emails people say, well,
the tax rate here is that. Yes, I get it,
but you're not paying a tax every time you cross
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a state line. And I think the goal again big
picture here is if we can eliminate tariffs and lead
to American products being treated the same as we treat
other is it still going to be cheaper to make
things in Vietnam, for instance, than it is in the
United States. Yes, because they have a lower standard of living.
That's why the shoes are made there. But we should
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be competing evenly with other countries that are also of
our size and magnitude like China and everything else. Would
kind of walk into and again and it would lead
to more jobs here. This was this forces us to
look at Okay so Chi, I mean for Vietnam, which
does a lot of textile and mentioned shoes, a lot
of that manufacturing. Now, if you look at your clothing,
(11:31):
it's very good chance the clothing are wearing is made
in Vietnam. And why do they have tariffs?
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Then?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
If they just have if their cost of goods and
labor is cheaper and they can compete fairly in the
international market. Right again, it's not that we want to
make everything here, but why would any country have tariffs
against any American goods if we were going if we
can avoid it.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
So let's take a pat in Menominee Falls. Did I
get that? Wisconsin?
Speaker 7 (12:02):
Nominy Falls, Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
So you're saying I nailed it. You're saying I stuck
the landing, pat, Thank you? What's going on?
Speaker 7 (12:09):
It's very close. Well, what you might try emphasizing is
anyone who's working like you guys, and whether it be
in a factory or a professional place, whatever, you're probably
contributing to an IRA or a four to one K
or you have a pension plan. The people that run
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pension plans, they are spiling from ear to ear because
they have to buy every week, every month, they have
to buy their dollar cost averaging. What people have to
realize is when you're this is what you're hoping for,
when you're involved in a plan, that the plan is smart.
They don't have to be smart at all right now,
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they just have to keep buying. Well, it's down because
sooner or later, like you said, and many of your
callers said, things are going to uptick. And when they uptick,
wouldn't it be so much nicer that you brought that
gallon of gas for fifty cents rather than two fifty.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Thank you for the call.
Speaker 8 (13:12):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
For people out there who don't know, dollar cost averaging
is basically the idea that you're going to put a
certain amount of money into the stock market every week,
every month, every year, and you're going to buy no
matter where the price is. And what dollar cost averaging
would do is when there are dips, it would give
you the opportunity for higher returns. Obviously, it also means
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basically buy and hold right and index funds are the
best way to buy and fund buy and hold because
you don't know necessarily which stocks are going to take
off and which stocks are going to bomb. I buy
s and P five hundred index funds. That's the five
hundred biggest companies. Right, all my money is an S
and P five hundred index funds because over time, buck
(13:54):
S and P five hundred funds have been proven index
funds to beat the vast majority of brilliant money managers
around the globe simply by staying put and investing in
a broad based index.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
You want to invest. If you're an investor and all
of our four oh one k's and all of our
retirement plans and pensions are premised on this clay, you
want to bet on the American economy to continue to
be the greatest wealth generation machine in the history of existence.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
That's really it.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
So you can either bet on the American I mean,
that's really the I think a distilled war and Buffett
philosophy too. I mean, there's more nuance to it than that.
But he bets on the American economy. And then you
have to ask yourself if you can't bet on the
American economy long term. I'm not saying you know, day
to day, of course, but if you can't bet on
the American economy long term, what.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Else is there? Where do you go there?
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Correct?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
I mean that's the crypto guys out there like it's
crypto clay. You buy crypto because the whole world's collapsing
and you need it.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I live in Miami. Let me tell you.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You want to get your hand and handblown off investing
really quickly start messing around with the wrong crypto.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
So yeah, but that's where crypto guy is screaming that.
But really, I mean, what else is there? Are you
an expert in Japanese stocks? Are you an expert in
China's completely manipulated stock market? I mean, do you feel
comfortable about Europe? I think you either buy a US
or you're like a doom scroller. Look, feeling safe in
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Speaker 3 (15:47):
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Speaker 4 (15:50):
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Speaker 3 (16:02):
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Speaker 4 (16:03):
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(16:25):
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Speaker 4 (17:19):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show a quick turnaround,
but I wanted to hit a couple of talkbacks. This
is Bob from ktlk UP in Minnesota. He wants to
react to Carrie from Michigan.
Speaker 10 (17:31):
Listen, Bob from Minnesota. Carrie from Michigan hit it right on.
I think everyone that's about sixty, which includes myself, Jess
and themselves, are you willing to work a couple more
years just to make this country better for the next generation.
The answer should be yes.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Interesting take there.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Stacy from Cape Coral, Florida ninety two five ws WFSX
says this, Hey guys, this.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Is Stacy from Cape Coral, Florida. I'm in favor of
the terrorists because I think of them just like going
to the gym. No pain, no game, Love you guys.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Bye, there you go.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
People weighing in, you can always weigh in on the talkback.
You can also we'll take your calls. I want to
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Speaker 2 (19:06):
We have Senator Tubberville with us now, a senator, appreciate
you being here much to discuss with you today.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Thank you very much for having me on.
Speaker 8 (19:16):
Yep, there's a lot going on.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
All right, let's talk first.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
We got some very important sports commentary and all that
coming here in a second. But I do have to
ask you because there's a lot of concern out there.
The headlines are really all dominated right now by what
the market's doing in response to Trump's Liberation Day and
the tariffs. You are in the United States Senate, the
august legislative body that it is, you have to oversee
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a lot of what's going on with the economy with
your fellow senators.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Are you worried? Is this all part of the plan?
What do you tell you?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
A lot of our Trump supporting audience that has a
little bit of concern right.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Now, Well, everybody's a little concern. Let me tell you this.
It's called a great reset. I've been here four years
and I've never seen the destruction of our country so fast.
And what the Democrats did for the last four years
and then eight years before President Trump went in for
four years. He got it back on track to some point.
But we're in trouble. This whole country's in trouble, and
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we cannot continue to run the football up the middle
like we've been doing it. We got to start throwing
the ball a little bit. That's analogy I've been putting
on it. The game plan has changed. We're going to
win this game, and we're going to do things different
because if we stay the course of what we've been doing,
thirty seven three dollars in debt will be just a
small part of.
Speaker 8 (20:34):
What we'll be in and then we'll end up being.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
A socialist country with third world mentality of crime and
all the things that are going on. We have got
to do something different and it will work because President
Trump understands it. So do Scott Bessett, the Secretary of Treasure, Treasure,
Howard Ludding it Commerce Secretary.
Speaker 8 (20:53):
They've got a great plan.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I'm looking forward to it working.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Senator Tuberville with us right now from Alabama, appreciate you
joining us. We're going to talk with Bruce Pearl actually
a little bit later scheduled to in the show, and
I'll ask you about him in a sec I think
he's the AP coach of the year. Not a bad guy,
not a bad result there. But you have been sharing
this story and our audience has responded to in a
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big way. A young woman was in a fencing competition
and she decided to take a knee rather than compete
against a man who was winning many of these matches.
You coached football, You've got a background in sports for
a long time. Would you have ever believed that we
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would be in a position where one political party is
saying men should be able to compete in women's sports
and the other one is just saying, hey, we think
women's sports should just be for women, and that it's
truly turned into a Democrat versus Republican issue.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
It's unbelievable and it's just a continuing motion of what
the Democrats in this city of Washington, d c. Has
done to the American dream they have. They're trying to
destroy it. We're not going to allow that to happen.
This young girl who was fencing the University of Maryland,
I think she was part of university, but she was
on the USA fencing team, Uh, you know, refused to
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compete against the man. And she's exactly right. I mean,
there's no no, there's no business whatsoever for young boys
or men to participate against girls or women. And you
got to think about this, and President Trump's even said this.
In a couple of years, we're getting ready to have
the Summer Olympics in Los Angeles will be the laughing
stock of the world if we can't get this back
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going the way it should be. I can remember watching
the last Olympics and that boy or man boxing against
that young lady yep, and it was a mismatch. So
we got to get it done. I've been I've had
three bills on the floor. All three of them have
not passed. No one Democrat ever votes to keep men
out of women's sports. It is a disaster. Now I've
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got no men in Olympic sports, and we'll put that
on the floor, but they're going to fight against it.
I don't understand. I ask them, you.
Speaker 8 (23:08):
Know, what do you believe in and what we believe in.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
The rights of everybody, How about the rights for young
girls and women because we're gonna lose women's sports if
we don't watch it.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Let me give you a little bit more detail for
those of you out there who may not know. Young
woman's name Stephanie Turner. She said on Fox News this morning.
I told them I was refusing to fence because this
person is a man and I'm a woman, and this
is a women's tournament. The USA fencing organization then kicked
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her out of the tournament and has expelled her from
being able to compete.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
But this is a very powerful moment.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
It's on video her saying quite simply, I'm a woman
and it's a women's tournament, and I'm not going to
compete against a man. And the fact that this is
a political issue in any way is crazy. I coach
a little league baseball. Let me tell you, if somebody
had shown up with a sixteen year old old and
tried to play in twelve you, every parent in America
would have said no, That's why we have agent limits.
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This is also why we have men and women's sports.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Fuck yeah, yeah, And you'd absolutely parents all over you too.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
You'd have had parents all over.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yes, no doubt what house Senator Senator Zubberville.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
You know, President Trump has taken a a very strong
posture on this, and specifically in the case of Maine.
We recall the governor of Maine got into a little
back and forth with him and she said, you know,
I'll see you in court, which is generally not something
you want to say to Trump because this guy, this
guy lives for uh, for the conflict he loves to
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throw down when he thinks he needs to and when
he thinks he's in the right Now it turns out
that it looks like Maine trying to back off a
little bit, But the federal funding is going to get
cut to Maine if they continue down this pathway. I mean,
do you support taking those kinds of of actions to
protect women in sports?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
What would you like to see done?
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Everything that we possibly can do, we have to do it.
It has started not at the just the high school
or college level. It's got to start out in elementary school.
It's got to start out in the levels that we
need young girls to be involved and enjoy participating in sports.
To get them involved in it. It's made great leadership
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out of a lot of women over the years. I
can remember when I first got into coaching. Title nine
just started and it opened up the avenues for many
many different sports that girls didn't have, softball, volleyball, track,
got them involved. It's built leadership around this country. And
I'm telling you what's going to happen, this transgender nonsense
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and the NIL at the same time is going to
put Title nine in women's sports under because NIL is
taking money away you can't survive without money in athletics,
and now you've got transgender boys that want to his
fate though. It's a double whammy on women and girls sports,
and you know it's absolutely shamed, worried of having to
(26:08):
talk about it.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
We're talking center Tommy Tubberville. I just mentioned Bruce Pearl.
He scheduled to join us in a bit. You're an
Auburn guy or eagle for all of our Alabama and
Auburn fans out there. You coached Auburn football, which has
been a long time big winner. You had a lot
of success there. Auburn basketball has not. Bruce Pearl has
them two wins away from the national championship. He was
(26:32):
just named the AP Coach of the Year. How big
of a deal is that and how hard are you
rooting for Auburn this weekend?
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Very well deserved. I live in Auburn. I play golf
with Bruce all the time. I was at a functioned
with him a couple of weeks ago. He has done
an amazing job of that program.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
I remember I got there ninety nine.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
We're decent in basketball, couldn't hardly sell any season tickets.
Now you can't get a ticket I've got I live
in that town and I beg to get a ticket
to get into a game. He has done the best
job probably ever done in college athletics to get something
turned around. But you got to give kudos too to
the entire sec of the athletes now that they have
in basketball, all across other than Kentucky. Used to be
(27:12):
just Kentucky. Now they all can play basketball. And Alabama
almost made the Final four, and it was close. I
thought they had one of the top four teams, but
they didn't make it. But Auburn's in it. I'll be
voting here tomorrow. Unfortunately we'll get to go to the game.
But I'm looking forward to the game and tell Bruce
good luck for me. I talked to him yesterday, but
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he'd get a little bit tight uptight. But that's Bruce Pearl.
I mean, he takes it very, very seriously.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Senator Truberville, you know Clay twice this week had to
go play golf. You know, I had to be here
trying to say through the Republic and pulled together America
to the best of my ability, while my esteemed co
host was out there on the links. As one does,
I don't know if you saw any video of him,
but you have any you know you are a phenomenal coach.
(27:59):
That is beyond question. Can you give him any coaching
on his swing? Because some people are saying some things
about about my friend Clay about his golf swing, and
I feel the need to defend him.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
What do we have here?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
But most things start out with talent, and you got
talent and athletic ability. Uh, you know, it's it's good
that you can just play any sport.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
Uh, and whether you're good at it.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Or not, it takes a lot of pressure off. It's
you know, it's good for exercise and all that, but uh,
it all starts for that athletic ability. I think he's
got some, but he needs to work on it. And again, not.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Elite, that's right, coach, you can only it's it ain't
the Jimmy's and the axes and those all the time.
It's Jimmies and the Joe's and I don't have it.
I don't have a lot of athletic ability here. When
it comes to to golf, my swing does not look good.
I deserve all the criticism.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Yeah, yeah, well it's you can win a lot of
games unless you have players.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
That was not That was not the inspiring locker room
speech from Coach Tubbville. He's basically telling Clay that got
to leave it to the pros. Well raise some great
money for charity earlier this week for till the Towers
and Senator Tubberville. Really appreciate you being with us as always.
Thanks for making the time.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Thanks guys, talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Okay, Look, I mean, you know we're talking about Clay's swing,
but I got swung out yesterday.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
The pronunciation police.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
No, I need to hear the me big time, bigle,
bigle pronunciation police lighting me up over how I pronounced
the word that I'm now I guess supposed to say tournament.
They say it's tournament. I say tournament. Darn it like
torni grip, although maybe it's turner grip actually, now that
I think about it, which is what I use on
my tennis racket. But no matter how you pronounce the
(29:44):
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Speaker 4 (31:29):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate everybody
out there weighing in. We are absolutely deluged with reaction.
Let me hit some of this. Let's see who is
up next. I think Dustin in Wilmington, North Carolina wants
to weigh in.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Dustin, what you got for us?
Speaker 11 (31:50):
Yeah, it's Justin, but that's not important. What's important is
that these tariffs are are great for America. They're absolutely necessary.
And Okay, even if we have zero to zero tariffs,
even if they're you know, equally zero, we cannot compete
with the country, say China, who's going to use slave
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labor where we have minimum age, we have social security contributions.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
They don't.
Speaker 11 (32:21):
They are manufacturing with coal, while here in California we've
got to manufacture with Chinese windmills and solar panels. If
we want jobs, if we want our middle class to be,
our working class to have money to live and to
prosper if we want our country has to implement these
(32:45):
tariffs to protect the working people. And the only people
that are going to lose a little bit maybe the
elite who have been benefiting from the working classes sacrifice
and the globalist. But this is good for America. This
is good for the working class of America. We have
to support it.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Thank you for the call. Buck. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I haven't heard the flip side ask very often why
do so many of these countries have massive tariffs against
the United States, Vietnam for instance. I mean, you hear
a lot of people say, oh, you can't put reciprocal
tariffs on I hear very few people analyzing it, which
I think we should. From the other perspective, Vietnam should
(33:29):
be able to produce everything that Vietnam needs inside of
their country much cheaper than we could produce it by
and large in the United States, right. I mean, that's
why Nike makes it shoes there because, to the caller's point,
you pay somebody to work in a factory in Vietnam
much less, cost of living is much lower. Why does
Vietnam have these protective tariffs? Very good question.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
You could say, well, hold on Vietnam, you're talking about
shipping globally and it's the other side of the world,
an enormously different labor, education levels, labor standard are living,
all of that, right, So that's one part of this.
But also you look at Canada next door. Canada had
something like a two hundred percent tariff on American dairy.
(34:14):
Why would they do that? Aren't why weren't we giving
them lectures about how self defeating it is for them
to have this two hundred percent. Now, maybe this is
about cronyism and political constituencies. That's perhaps an answer, meaning
that the dairy farmers along the border in Canada, because
everybody is we know lives along the US Canada border,
who lives in Canada, they wouldn't have any.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Industry without these tariffs.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
But then you ask, well, why do they have so
much political sway that everybody else has to pay more
for milk? Is that is that a choice that they're
making people want to make?
Speaker 4 (34:45):
That's a great question. Why do all these tariffs exist
if all of them are worthless? And I think the
milk idea is a good one because theoretically Canadians could
have much cheaper American milk, and instead they're willing to
pay more to try to give the Canadian dairy farmers.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Here's the other part of it is is Vietnam being
used as essentially a cutout for Chinese companies to operate
their factories and get around some of the restrictions we
have in China. Would not be hard to do, would
not be hard to figure this out. So this is
(35:21):
the game of whack a mole. We know that China
has done that with Mexico.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
They have moved many of their factories to Mexico to
produce Chinese goods there so they can then bring them in.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Without the tariffs.
Speaker 8 (35:34):
The other thing.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
By the way, buck on the Nike, for instance, making
its shoes in Vietnam. You and I know this because
we have a business. We're shipping coffee all over the country.
Can you imagine how much the shipping cost must be
to get all that Nike gear from Vietnam to the
United States?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I mean it really People tell me about labor costs
all the time. Is it really that hard to have
an American factory that's largely automated. We're just we're a
couple of years out from having Tesla robots making our
omelets in the morning. You're gonna tell us it's really
that hard to onshore a lot of this production. It's
not just about jobs. There's also about supply chain and
productivity and the national security side of it. But Clay,
(36:12):
you mentioned an amazing company before. What was the name
of it, Crockett Coffee.
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John Bachelor's on seven to ten WR Tonight at nine.
But now here come Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Welcome back into the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Interesting day in the economy, some stuff happening. You may
have heard in the markets.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
SMPS five hundreds sliding down four percentage points, the Dow
Jones industrial average has fallen sixteen hundred, and China has
thrown a thirty four percent tariff back at us in
response to what Trump is doing. That all said it
was a good day on the jobs numbers front. Like
(00:42):
to bring you a little good news with all of
this as well. And here is the man who kicked
off the tea party back in twenty ten, Rick sent
Telly of CNBC talking about those jobs numbers and pretty
good play.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
One non farm payrolls beats estimates two hundred and twenty
eight thousand jobs. That would be the strongest this year,
and it would comp to three hundred and twenty three thousand.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
And dace of last year.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
There is, however, a minus forty eight thousand two month
revision minus forty eight k. Now, let's go for the
unemployment rate, shall we expected four point one moves up
to four point two. That equals where we were in November.
Labor force participation rate coming in at sixty two point five.
(01:30):
That is indeed good news. It's up to ten from
both expectations and the rearview mirror.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
All right, so we've got healthcare, social assistance, transportation sectors
adding jobs. The two hundred and twenty eight thousand number
for last month solid looking good, a healthy, healthy increase
there in the jobs. And this is coming out of
time also when the Doze Efficiency Task Force has had
(01:58):
some layoffs federal governor employees to climb by just four
thousand in March, they dropped eleven thousand in February. President
Trump welcomed in all apps play the jobs numbers with
this quote, it's already working, Hank tough. We can't lose, okay.
So Trump is not backing down at all on this.
(02:19):
I want to get to more of our calls and talkbacks,
so I know people just we need to hear everybody
out on this. A lot of diverse opinions about it,
but for you, I feel like you and I see
this largely from a similar perspective of there's definitely no
need for panic, and this could be a very good thing,
and if it's not a good thing, he'll fix it.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
And also the stock prices, if you are out there,
the stock prices are basically the same as they were
in May of last year. And I know people don't
spend a lot of time looking at historic averages, but
over ten years, on average, the S and P five
(03:03):
hundred is going to double basically every ten years. If
you buy index funds and you put them away in
your drawer and you basically don't look at them on
year to year basis, keep buying because you keep rolling
that money in, because you believe in the long range
success of America. It's the best possible thing you can do.
(03:24):
So when I sold my company, I mostly bought S
and P five hundred index funds back in twenty twenty one.
I sit them there, I don't touch them, and I
keep adding to them, and that is that's my general
investment plan. Now, I like real estate, buy a lot
of different things there. But I'm telling you guys to
(03:45):
do the same thing that I do, and I think
it's basically the best financial advice you can get. Put
them in a drawer, don't look at them, check them
once a month. If you want to check them once
every six months, even better, and over time you're going
to have good results. It's when you are trying to
time the market that you oftentimes get caught, because most
(04:05):
people don't. And again, the most brilliant investor of any
of our lives is Warren Buffett, and his most famous
quote is be greedy when others are scared, fearful, and
be fearful when others are greedy.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Right, Basically, you're taking.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Whatever the masses are doing. The masses are often wrong
because the masses are ruled oftentimes by emotion. I think
you need to have a long range view.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Right, Well, you're you're taking a particularly in that in
that last discussion, play an investor view on this. A
lot of a lot of our people, a lot of
our listeners, a lot of our friends all across the country,
they don't even really think about this as investors. So
what what affects them more? Or rather, I think what
they're more concerned about? First and foremost jobs. Will there
be job cuts, substantial job cuts in the private sector
(04:55):
at companies as a result of this, So that's the
that's a concern. And then also prices. I mean, I
have seen some pretty in depth analysis online from some
smart folks on the financial side of things who say
that this could cause a real increase in prices, at
least over the short term. So I think those are
things that Trump is going to have to watch very
(05:16):
very closely, very carefully. There is definitely a feeling among
a lot of the MAGA faithful that if Wall Street
has to take a fifteen or twenty percent haircut for
a while, so be it. But if the joblessness rate
starts to go up substantially, and if the price of
goods that people need, not that they kind of want,
(05:37):
not luxuryause, the price of food, gas, electricity, if that
starts to go up substantially as a result of this,
then there's going to be pressure on the program.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
About sixty percent, we'll take some of your calls in
reaction to here. About sixty percent is the number that
I have seen people own stock in America. That is,
you either own individual stocks or your four oh one
K or your pension. Does what percentage of our audience
do you think is invested eighty I would think it's
higher than the general consensus. But to your point, Buck,
(06:06):
if you're not a stock market investor. It is somewhat
funny to me that Democrats rail all the time about
the wealthy, the billionaire class, even though the billionaire class
by and large actually votes Democrat and supports them more.
But they rail all the time about the billionaire class.
As soon as the stock market starts going down, it's
a calamity. Well, if you don't really care that much
about the billionaire class, or they don't need the money
(06:28):
that they have, why would you be focused on the
stock market. I think it's because they need a tangible
something to grab onto to say Trump is doing a
horrible job. They can't say it on the border, they
can't say it on violent crime, they can't say it
on deportations. They can right now argue, oh, the stock
market is down since Trump got elected, and that is
really their only move. They were trying to argue eggs.
(06:50):
Egg prices are down. We told you gas prices are
going to be coming down soon because the barrel of
oil is at a record low for the last four
year years or so. So whatever you're paying at the
pump for your gallon of gas going to be well
under three dollars on average. Because somebody's gonna tell me, Hey,
I live in San Francisco and my okay, on average,
(07:11):
the passive pricement unleaded gallon of gas going to be
under three dollars, maybe even going under two fifty. That's
where I think most people kind of gauge how the
economy's going. My concern, if I had one buck, is
if you run a business and you've been running the
business based on the expected outcome of the rules being X,
and suddenly you find out the rules are, why do
(07:33):
you draw back and not spend the money that you
had been spending planning to spend? That is my concern
why we need to If you were asking me, hey, Clay,
what concerns you here, it's the ability of business to
plan and they now have unexpected realities and it takes
sometimes years for businesses to invest substantial dollars. But we've
(07:55):
got a lot of people out there who want a
way in. Who should We just want to say, Clay,
real quick before we get to the we're to the calls.
I mean, just the thing we want to avoid here, right, Stagflation.
You're going to hear people talking about it. Stagflation is
high inflation, slow economic growth, high unemployment. So to your
point about the investing and and particularly for businesses and
(08:15):
their balance sheets, that's something you want to because if
they're not investing and they're cutting and they're not hiring,
and we continue to have inflation chipping away and we
have high prices, then things start to start to pinch.
That's that's not a good place to be, right. Let's
get to those calls. As you said, we have Neil
in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. What's going on?
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Neil?
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Hey, guys, I have a little bit of a different
take on it. I'm a big Trump supporter, voted for
him three times, and he's done a lot of great
stuff on the tariff. I wasn't expecting this. It seems
like he's going to financial war with the entire world.
What I thought he was going to do was to
take away the incentive from companies to have a plant
here and move it to Mexico because it's too to
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make it there and the company.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
Makes more money.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
I mean, a nice thing about having a plant in
your town is that a big company. You got lots
of jobs there, thousands of jobs, But that leaves you
don't have that anymore. The only people that are making
money are the owners of the company and the investors
in the company. I thought Trump would figure out a
way to take away that incentive, and that would have
been the tariff. That if you're saving ten thousand dollars
(09:24):
per vehicle to make your truck in China or Mexico,
let's put a ten thousand dollars tariff on that so
that it costs you the same to make it here,
but just keep the factories here and that would be
more jobs.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Well, I think, sorry to cut you off theill. I
think that is a goal, right. The goal in a
terror free world would be that American commerce can compete
more fairly around the world. And again it does from
a purely analytical perspective, I think most economists would say
we shouldn't have tariffs, right.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I think that's what they say.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Because then the free world, like for instance, by and large,
we don't have The reason the United States has been
able to be so successful as a huge economic heavyweight
is because we don't have fifty different tax tariffs. When
you're trying to sell a good in California, by and large,
you don't have to pay way more to get to Texas,
(10:22):
or you don't have to pay way more to get
to Michigan or whatever it is.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I know there's costs of shipping all those things. I'm
not talking about the cost there. I'm saying, by and large,
there isn't a tariff because inside of the United States.
It's why Trump has said Canada should come in. We
don't have tariff for regulation between states. You're not paying
massive amounts. I know, I'm gonna get emails people say, well,
the tax rate here is that. Yes, I get it,
but you're not paying a tax every time you cross
(10:48):
a state line. And I think the goal again big
picture here is if we can eliminate tariffs and lead
to American products being treated the same as we treat
other is it still going to be cheaper to make
things in Vietnam, for instance, than it is in the
United States. Yes, because they have a lower standard of living.
That's why the shoes are made there. But we should
(11:10):
be competing evenly with other countries that are also of
our size and magnitude like China and everything else. Would
kind of walk into and again and it would lead
to more jobs here. This was this forces us to
look at Okay so Chi, I mean for Vietnam, which
does a lot of textile and mentioned shoes, a lot
of that manufacturing. Now, if you look at your clothing,
(11:31):
it's very good chance the clothing are wearing is made
in Vietnam. And why do they have tariffs?
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Then?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
If they just have if their cost of goods and
labor is cheaper and they can compete fairly in the
international market. Right again, it's not that we want to
make everything here, but why would any country have tariffs
against any American goods if we were going if we
can avoid it.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
So let's take a pat in Menominee Falls. Did I
get that? Wisconsin?
Speaker 7 (12:02):
Nominy Falls, Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
So you're saying I nailed it. You're saying I stuck
the landing, pat, Thank you? What's going on?
Speaker 7 (12:09):
It's very close. Well, what you might try emphasizing is
anyone who's working like you guys, and whether it be
in a factory or a professional place, whatever, you're probably
contributing to an IRA or a four to one K
or you have a pension plan. The people that run
(12:29):
pension plans, they are spiling from ear to ear because
they have to buy every week, every month, they have
to buy their dollar cost averaging. What people have to
realize is when you're this is what you're hoping for,
when you're involved in a plan, that the plan is smart.
They don't have to be smart at all right now,
(12:51):
they just have to keep buying. Well, it's down because
sooner or later, like you said, and many of your
callers said, things are going to uptick. And when they uptick,
wouldn't it be so much nicer that you brought that
gallon of gas for fifty cents rather than two fifty.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Thank you for the call.
Speaker 8 (13:12):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
For people out there who don't know, dollar cost averaging
is basically the idea that you're going to put a
certain amount of money into the stock market every week,
every month, every year, and you're going to buy no
matter where the price is. And what dollar cost averaging
would do is when there are dips, it would give
you the opportunity for higher returns. Obviously, it also means
(13:33):
basically buy and hold right and index funds are the
best way to buy and fund buy and hold because
you don't know necessarily which stocks are going to take
off and which stocks are going to bomb. I buy
s and P five hundred index funds. That's the five
hundred biggest companies. Right, all my money is an S
and P five hundred index funds because over time, buck
(13:54):
S and P five hundred funds have been proven index
funds to beat the vast majority of brilliant money managers
around the globe simply by staying put and investing in
a broad based index.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
You want to invest. If you're an investor and all
of our four oh one k's and all of our
retirement plans and pensions are premised on this clay, you
want to bet on the American economy to continue to
be the greatest wealth generation machine in the history of existence.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
That's really it.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
So you can either bet on the American I mean,
that's really the I think a distilled war and Buffett
philosophy too. I mean, there's more nuance to it than that.
But he bets on the American economy. And then you
have to ask yourself if you can't bet on the
American economy long term. I'm not saying you know, day
to day, of course, but if you can't bet on
the American economy long term, what.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Else is there? Where do you go there?
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Correct?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
I mean that's the crypto guys out there like it's
crypto clay. You buy crypto because the whole world's collapsing
and you need it.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I live in Miami. Let me tell you.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You want to get your hand and handblown off investing
really quickly start messing around with the wrong crypto.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
So yeah, but that's where crypto guy is screaming that.
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but I wanted to hit a couple of talkbacks. This
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react to Carrie from Michigan.
Speaker 10 (17:31):
Listen, Bob from Minnesota. Carrie from Michigan hit it right on.
I think everyone that's about sixty, which includes myself, Jess
and themselves, are you willing to work a couple more
years just to make this country better for the next generation.
The answer should be yes.
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Interesting take there.
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Bye, there you go.
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Speaker 2 (19:06):
We have Senator Tubberville with us now, a senator, appreciate
you being here much to discuss with you today.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Thank you very much for having me on.
Speaker 8 (19:16):
Yep, there's a lot going on.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
All right, let's talk first.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
We got some very important sports commentary and all that
coming here in a second. But I do have to
ask you because there's a lot of concern out there.
The headlines are really all dominated right now by what
the market's doing in response to Trump's Liberation Day and
the tariffs. You are in the United States Senate, the
august legislative body that it is, you have to oversee
(19:41):
a lot of what's going on with the economy with
your fellow senators.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Are you worried? Is this all part of the plan?
What do you tell you?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
A lot of our Trump supporting audience that has a
little bit of concern right.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Now, Well, everybody's a little concern. Let me tell you this.
It's called a great reset. I've been here four years
and I've never seen the destruction of our country so fast.
And what the Democrats did for the last four years
and then eight years before President Trump went in for
four years. He got it back on track to some point.
But we're in trouble. This whole country's in trouble, and
(20:15):
we cannot continue to run the football up the middle
like we've been doing it. We got to start throwing
the ball a little bit. That's analogy I've been putting
on it. The game plan has changed. We're going to
win this game, and we're going to do things different
because if we stay the course of what we've been doing,
thirty seven three dollars in debt will be just a
small part of.
Speaker 8 (20:34):
What we'll be in and then we'll end up being.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
A socialist country with third world mentality of crime and
all the things that are going on. We have got
to do something different and it will work because President
Trump understands it. So do Scott Bessett, the Secretary of Treasure, Treasure,
Howard Ludding it Commerce Secretary.
Speaker 8 (20:53):
They've got a great plan.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I'm looking forward to it working.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Senator Tuberville with us right now from Alabama, appreciate you
joining us. We're going to talk with Bruce Pearl actually
a little bit later scheduled to in the show, and
I'll ask you about him in a sec I think
he's the AP coach of the year. Not a bad guy,
not a bad result there. But you have been sharing
this story and our audience has responded to in a
(21:18):
big way. A young woman was in a fencing competition
and she decided to take a knee rather than compete
against a man who was winning many of these matches.
You coached football, You've got a background in sports for
a long time. Would you have ever believed that we
(21:38):
would be in a position where one political party is
saying men should be able to compete in women's sports
and the other one is just saying, hey, we think
women's sports should just be for women, and that it's
truly turned into a Democrat versus Republican issue.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
It's unbelievable and it's just a continuing motion of what
the Democrats in this city of Washington, d c. Has
done to the American dream they have. They're trying to
destroy it. We're not going to allow that to happen.
This young girl who was fencing the University of Maryland,
I think she was part of university, but she was
on the USA fencing team, Uh, you know, refused to
(22:16):
compete against the man. And she's exactly right. I mean,
there's no no, there's no business whatsoever for young boys
or men to participate against girls or women. And you
got to think about this, and President Trump's even said this.
In a couple of years, we're getting ready to have
the Summer Olympics in Los Angeles will be the laughing
stock of the world if we can't get this back
(22:38):
going the way it should be. I can remember watching
the last Olympics and that boy or man boxing against
that young lady yep, and it was a mismatch. So
we got to get it done. I've been I've had
three bills on the floor. All three of them have
not passed. No one Democrat ever votes to keep men
out of women's sports. It is a disaster. Now I've
(22:58):
got no men in Olympic sports, and we'll put that
on the floor, but they're going to fight against it.
I don't understand. I ask them, you.
Speaker 8 (23:08):
Know, what do you believe in and what we believe in.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
The rights of everybody, How about the rights for young
girls and women because we're gonna lose women's sports if
we don't watch it.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Let me give you a little bit more detail for
those of you out there who may not know. Young
woman's name Stephanie Turner. She said on Fox News this morning.
I told them I was refusing to fence because this
person is a man and I'm a woman, and this
is a women's tournament. The USA fencing organization then kicked
(23:36):
her out of the tournament and has expelled her from
being able to compete.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
But this is a very powerful moment.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
It's on video her saying quite simply, I'm a woman
and it's a women's tournament, and I'm not going to
compete against a man. And the fact that this is
a political issue in any way is crazy. I coach
a little league baseball. Let me tell you, if somebody
had shown up with a sixteen year old old and
tried to play in twelve you, every parent in America
would have said no, That's why we have agent limits.
(24:05):
This is also why we have men and women's sports.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Fuck yeah, yeah, And you'd absolutely parents all over you too.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
You'd have had parents all over.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yes, no doubt what house Senator Senator Zubberville.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
You know, President Trump has taken a a very strong
posture on this, and specifically in the case of Maine.
We recall the governor of Maine got into a little
back and forth with him and she said, you know,
I'll see you in court, which is generally not something
you want to say to Trump because this guy, this
guy lives for uh, for the conflict he loves to
(24:42):
throw down when he thinks he needs to and when
he thinks he's in the right Now it turns out
that it looks like Maine trying to back off a
little bit, But the federal funding is going to get
cut to Maine if they continue down this pathway. I mean,
do you support taking those kinds of of actions to
protect women in sports?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
What would you like to see done?
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Everything that we possibly can do, we have to do it.
It has started not at the just the high school
or college level. It's got to start out in elementary school.
It's got to start out in the levels that we
need young girls to be involved and enjoy participating in sports.
To get them involved in it. It's made great leadership
(25:21):
out of a lot of women over the years. I
can remember when I first got into coaching. Title nine
just started and it opened up the avenues for many
many different sports that girls didn't have, softball, volleyball, track,
got them involved. It's built leadership around this country. And
I'm telling you what's going to happen, this transgender nonsense
(25:45):
and the NIL at the same time is going to
put Title nine in women's sports under because NIL is
taking money away you can't survive without money in athletics,
and now you've got transgender boys that want to his
fate though. It's a double whammy on women and girls sports,
and you know it's absolutely shamed, worried of having to
(26:08):
talk about it.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
We're talking center Tommy Tubberville. I just mentioned Bruce Pearl.
He scheduled to join us in a bit. You're an
Auburn guy or eagle for all of our Alabama and
Auburn fans out there. You coached Auburn football, which has
been a long time big winner. You had a lot
of success there. Auburn basketball has not. Bruce Pearl has
them two wins away from the national championship. He was
(26:32):
just named the AP Coach of the Year. How big
of a deal is that and how hard are you
rooting for Auburn this weekend?
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Very well deserved. I live in Auburn. I play golf
with Bruce all the time. I was at a functioned
with him a couple of weeks ago. He has done
an amazing job of that program.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
I remember I got there ninety nine.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
We're decent in basketball, couldn't hardly sell any season tickets.
Now you can't get a ticket I've got I live
in that town and I beg to get a ticket
to get into a game. He has done the best
job probably ever done in college athletics to get something
turned around. But you got to give kudos too to
the entire sec of the athletes now that they have
in basketball, all across other than Kentucky. Used to be
(27:12):
just Kentucky. Now they all can play basketball. And Alabama
almost made the Final four, and it was close. I
thought they had one of the top four teams, but
they didn't make it. But Auburn's in it. I'll be
voting here tomorrow. Unfortunately we'll get to go to the game.
But I'm looking forward to the game and tell Bruce
good luck for me. I talked to him yesterday, but
(27:33):
he'd get a little bit tight uptight. But that's Bruce Pearl.
I mean, he takes it very, very seriously.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Senator Truberville, you know Clay twice this week had to
go play golf. You know, I had to be here
trying to say through the Republic and pulled together America
to the best of my ability, while my esteemed co
host was out there on the links. As one does,
I don't know if you saw any video of him,
but you have any you know you are a phenomenal coach.
(27:59):
That is beyond question. Can you give him any coaching
on his swing? Because some people are saying some things
about about my friend Clay about his golf swing, and
I feel the need to defend him.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
What do we have here?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
But most things start out with talent, and you got
talent and athletic ability. Uh, you know, it's it's good
that you can just play any sport.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
Uh, and whether you're good at it.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Or not, it takes a lot of pressure off. It's
you know, it's good for exercise and all that, but uh,
it all starts for that athletic ability. I think he's
got some, but he needs to work on it. And again, not.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Elite, that's right, coach, you can only it's it ain't
the Jimmy's and the axes and those all the time.
It's Jimmies and the Joe's and I don't have it.
I don't have a lot of athletic ability here. When
it comes to to golf, my swing does not look good.
I deserve all the criticism.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Yeah, yeah, well it's you can win a lot of
games unless you have players.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
That was not That was not the inspiring locker room
speech from Coach Tubbville. He's basically telling Clay that got
to leave it to the pros. Well raise some great
money for charity earlier this week for till the Towers
and Senator Tubberville. Really appreciate you being with us as always.
Thanks for making the time.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Thanks guys, talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Okay, Look, I mean, you know we're talking about Clay's swing,
but I got swung out yesterday.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
The pronunciation police.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
No, I need to hear the me big time, bigle,
bigle pronunciation police lighting me up over how I pronounced
the word that I'm now I guess supposed to say tournament.
They say it's tournament. I say tournament. Darn it like
torni grip, although maybe it's turner grip actually, now that
I think about it, which is what I use on
my tennis racket. But no matter how you pronounce the
(29:44):
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate everybody
out there weighing in. We are absolutely deluged with reaction.
Let me hit some of this. Let's see who is
up next. I think Dustin in Wilmington, North Carolina wants
to weigh in.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Dustin, what you got for us?
Speaker 11 (31:50):
Yeah, it's Justin, but that's not important. What's important is
that these tariffs are are great for America. They're absolutely necessary.
And Okay, even if we have zero to zero tariffs,
even if they're you know, equally zero, we cannot compete
with the country, say China, who's going to use slave
(32:14):
labor where we have minimum age, we have social security contributions.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
They don't.
Speaker 11 (32:21):
They are manufacturing with coal, while here in California we've
got to manufacture with Chinese windmills and solar panels. If
we want jobs, if we want our middle class to be,
our working class to have money to live and to
prosper if we want our country has to implement these
(32:45):
tariffs to protect the working people. And the only people
that are going to lose a little bit maybe the
elite who have been benefiting from the working classes sacrifice
and the globalist. But this is good for America. This
is good for the working class of America. We have
to support it.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Thank you for the call. Buck. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I haven't heard the flip side ask very often why
do so many of these countries have massive tariffs against
the United States, Vietnam for instance. I mean, you hear
a lot of people say, oh, you can't put reciprocal
tariffs on I hear very few people analyzing it, which
I think we should. From the other perspective, Vietnam should
(33:29):
be able to produce everything that Vietnam needs inside of
their country much cheaper than we could produce it by
and large in the United States, right. I mean, that's
why Nike makes it shoes there because, to the caller's point,
you pay somebody to work in a factory in Vietnam
much less, cost of living is much lower. Why does
Vietnam have these protective tariffs? Very good question.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
You could say, well, hold on Vietnam, you're talking about
shipping globally and it's the other side of the world,
an enormously different labor, education levels, labor standard are living,
all of that, right, So that's one part of this.
But also you look at Canada next door. Canada had
something like a two hundred percent tariff on American dairy.
(34:14):
Why would they do that? Aren't why weren't we giving
them lectures about how self defeating it is for them
to have this two hundred percent. Now, maybe this is
about cronyism and political constituencies. That's perhaps an answer, meaning
that the dairy farmers along the border in Canada, because
everybody is we know lives along the US Canada border,
who lives in Canada, they wouldn't have any.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Industry without these tariffs.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
But then you ask, well, why do they have so
much political sway that everybody else has to pay more
for milk? Is that is that a choice that they're
making people want to make?
Speaker 4 (34:45):
That's a great question. Why do all these tariffs exist
if all of them are worthless? And I think the
milk idea is a good one because theoretically Canadians could
have much cheaper American milk, and instead they're willing to
pay more to try to give the Canadian dairy farmers.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Here's the other part of it is is Vietnam being
used as essentially a cutout for Chinese companies to operate
their factories and get around some of the restrictions we
have in China. Would not be hard to do, would
not be hard to figure this out. So this is
(35:21):
the game of whack a mole. We know that China
has done that with Mexico.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
They have moved many of their factories to Mexico to
produce Chinese goods there so they can then bring them in.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Without the tariffs.
Speaker 8 (35:34):
The other thing.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
By the way, buck on the Nike, for instance, making
its shoes in Vietnam. You and I know this because
we have a business. We're shipping coffee all over the country.
Can you imagine how much the shipping cost must be
to get all that Nike gear from Vietnam to the
United States?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I mean it really People tell me about labor costs
all the time. Is it really that hard to have
an American factory that's largely automated. We're just we're a
couple of years out from having Tesla robots making our
omelets in the morning. You're gonna tell us it's really
that hard to onshore a lot of this production. It's
not just about jobs. There's also about supply chain and
productivity and the national security side of it. But Clay,
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