April 22, 2025 • 36 mins
In this episode, Lisa and Paul Mauro, a former NYPD legal bureau commanding officer & FOX News contributor, delve into allegations against New York Attorney General Letitia James. They discuss potential mortgage fraud linked to her properties and the implications for her re-election. The conversation also explores broader political issues, including the challenges President Trump faces with immigration policies and the impact of criminal justice reforms on crime rates in New York City. The Truth with Lisa Boothe is part of the CLay travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Tuesday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Buckle up and get ready for a hard hitting episode
of the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we will expose
the hypocrisy and the potential criminality of New York Attorney
General Letitia James. You know who is the one who
relentlessly pursued President Trump, claiming no one was above the law.
(00:21):
But now the tables have turned. Federal officials have referred
James for criminal prosecution over alleged mortgage fraud tied to
properties in Virginia and New York. So today we're diving
deep into these explosive allegations with Paul Morrow. You know
him from Fox News. He's also former MIPD Legal Bureau
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Commanding Officer and executive officer of the Intelligence Operations and
Analysis Bureau. So let's just say he knows a thing
or two about all of this. So what exactly did
James do and will she face consequences? She's also running
for election for attorney general, so will this derail that.
(01:04):
We're gonna ask Paul all these tough questions. Plus we'll
get his take on why these judges are blocking President
Trump's mass deportation plans. Was this the plan from the
left all along, that they knew that he wouldn't be
able to do these mass deportations. Kind of brilliant, to
be honest, but problematic for a country. Get ready for
the Unfiltered Truth with Paul Morrow.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Well, Paul, it's great to have you back on this show.
A lot's happened if I've had you on, so I
appreciate you making the time.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Of course, anytime.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So first I wanted to get into all this resistance
that President Trump is facing as he tries to deport
legal aliens who came here. You know, apparently open borders
are perfectly acceptable, but if you try to deport any
of these people, a judge will try to stop you. Well,
why do you think he's being met with so much resistance?
(02:04):
And you know, do you think the Trump administration is
following the letter of the law in trying to deport
these people?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Well, talk about being on the wrong side of history. Huh,
this is going to check out retrospectively. I think as
maybe one of the biggest blunders that the left has
ever engaged in, which is a big statement because the
American people are really not on board with this, and
they're making that as the Dems are making it a
very simple sort of bilateral choice. You know, it's just
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really a choice of a ar B. A we have
a safe country, B we don't.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And they seem to.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Have missed a message of the last election because it
was probably the main thing driving the election. Maybe the
economy a little bit more, but you know, the border
really was the most salient issue because it was really
just a such a clear choice. Now, I do think
that there is an element of sort of the priests
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here in that they cognizantly that is, the Dems did
let in ten to twelve million unvetted migrants knowing that
it was going to be almost impossible to.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Get them all out.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
And so now the expectation is, okay, fight the Republican's
tooth and nail, fight Donald Trump tooth and nail, and
at some point you'll have to cut a deal because
you realistically cannot give full due process to ten to
twelve million illegals. The entire system will shut down. And
so I respect the idea of the worst first, but
the pledge to get rid of ten to twelve million illegals,
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to reject them, eject them, I should say, from the country,
is just not feasible. And so the Trump administration really
does face a dilemma because it was the promise, and
the Dems are fighting a tooth and nail to make
sure that full due process has to apply to all
ten to twelve million. And I do want under if
that was not the plan all along, and at some
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point a deal will have to be cut. Millions stay
and they're going to thank the Democratic Party by becoming
full citizens in voting.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Well, Paul, as you were talking, that was the thought
bubble that just popped into my mind, Like, what a
genius plan, right that they knew, they knew that you
wouldn't be able to offer due process to all these individuals,
and that he would be stopped and trying to deport
mass you know, deportation.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
So it's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
You open the southern border, you let the floodgates go in,
you get a new voter base that gives you power.
And then now the fight moving forward is going to be,
you know, how do we prevent all these people from
voting in the future? Right, the whole new You're you're
basically importing, you know, an entire state full of people.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, it's crazy, Yeah, it really is. And you know,
you don't have to speculate too far.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
It's not like we're weigh out on a limb here,
because New York City already tried. It got voted down
in the highest court in New York State, but it
went that far, and they tried to give illegals full
voting rights here in New York City. So they're very
clearly testing the waters. And you know, we're saying the
quiet part out loud. By now, it's become pretty clear
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that Joe Biden was not pulling these strings. And so
someplace in the inner cabal, whatever hunt was actually running
the government in America for four years, somebody in there
came up with this plan and just said, look, flood
the zone and then when the time comes, were we
to lose, they'll never be able to get them out,
and over time it's just going to be a fad
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of complee.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
So you're right, there is an element.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
You have to say, there was an element of political
genius to it. And yet it's one of the reasons
that they lost both houses and the presidency. And I
wouldn't be surprised at all if they win the next election.
If the economy does anything like the Trump people wanted
to do because, as I said, they've made it just
such a clear you know, in this age of so
much white noise, to be able to just point to
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an issue and make it very very simple that we
are on the side of safety and they are not.
You know, guys like Van Holland am making it easy,
you know.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And how dangerous did some of these people make our country?
I mean you look at places like New York City
for example. You know how much more dangerous did some
of these individuals, this influx of new people coming in
the country make some of our communities.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It's a good question because there's no real metric for it, right,
you know, because the cities.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You know, New York State is a centuary state.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
New York City is a century city, and you know,
you see that pattern around the country in terms of
blue cities and blue states, and so as a result,
you can't really test it and you can't prove a negative.
But that said that said, look, well, have dudes have
eyes and if you walk around the city, if nothing else,
let's even take the arrests as a metric off the table,
all right, if nothing else here in.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
New York City and I'm sure it's going around and
the rest of the country.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You you have displaced the homeless and mentally ill population
from the vast majority of the city run shelters because
they had to be given over to migrants, and just
a cascading effect because then what happens is you have
to take over hotels. Midtown in New York City is dying.
I know a couple of people now in my neighborhood
who have restaurants who will just look at a close
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up shop or have because the tourist trade has dropped off,
and all of these.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Things just lean on each other.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
They all influence each other, they all lead one to another,
and it's because you have a much worse visible homeless problem.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Some of them are migrants, but not all, and.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
It's because they've had to house in New York City
by Eric Adams underestimation, as many as one hundred thousand.
And then, of course there is the fact that you
and I have spoken about on the air so often,
which is that.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
You know, look, we have enough of our purpose.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
If you let in ten to twelve million unvetted people
and you take one percent of that, you've just let
in one hundred thousand new criminals. We don't have enough
of our own. We've got to import them, and no
vetting was done. You and I both know that the
CHNV program was a huge force multiplier for the migrant
criminal element, for the gangs and the cartels, and they
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were paid for to come. We literally ship them in
on our time and our dime. So it was just madness.
And when you say to yourself, why would any nation
do this to itself, you have to say to yourself,
there's got to be someplace in there, some hidden objective.
And I think you and I tasted out a few
minutes ago, which is there expecting this to be a
massive democratic voting block at some point?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Well, and we haven't even you know, I mean, we
haven't seen this, but there have been threads. You know,
you had Christopher Ray warn about some terrorists. You know,
we know that we've seen a record number of terrorists
on the watch lists try to enter in the United States.
So who knows who has actually been let in here?
I mean, you've worked at the intelligence operations at the NYPD.
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How much of a threat is at still and how
concerned are you that that will materialize in the near future?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Put it this way, they'd have to be morons.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And when I say they, now, I'm going to switch
to a little bit more of a nation state argument
here the Chinese and other nations that mean, it's less
in North Koreans, but certainly the Chinese, the Iranians, and
the Russians. They'd have to be morons not to take
advantage of the fact that New York, excuse me, America
blew open its open borders. It's particularly at southern border
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to any comer. They'd have to be complete idiots not
to have taken advantage of that. And I can tell
you they're not complete idiots, all right. So there are
numerous examples that we could cite, and you know, that's
just a tip of the iceberg. But I'm going to
go back to a historical There was a rubrik here
to this, and that's the Mario boat lift during the
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seventies on the Jimmy Carter because Castro took that opportunity
to open up his jails and his insane asylums to
about one hundred and fifty thousand Cubans who wanted to
leave that island, and he they mostly were not criminals
and insane people. But there were plenty. But one thing
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that's often lost to history is that he also reportedly
flooded Florida with a good number of intelligence agents. Cuba
has a very active intelligence apparatus that always has They've
trained ven asuell as and they were all Soviet trained
at the time. So one hundred and one hundred and
fifty Cuban assets into Florida reportedly, some of them and
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it's not as a classified or I think reportedly still
active and set up networks. And one of the things
they do is they rip off the benefits system and
they're trained to do that. They know there are tremendous
holes in our benefits system, and it's just another way
to drain the American treasury and to support there a
lot of these intelligence operations by these foreign adversaries. They
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are self funding because of things like that. This and
the Cubans did it. You know for a fact that
Russians must have been doing it. We know that there
were fifty thousand unvetted Chinese that came in through the
southern border. The idea that none of the more intelligence
assets beggars belief. And so yeah, we've thrown ourselves open
and we may never really know the extent of the damage,
but at some point it'll become a parent, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
So I want to get into this Tiss James situation.
So the Attorney General of New York, she told us
that no one was above the law. And it turns
out there's some stuff in her background that could potentially
get her in legal trouble. You know what, do you
(11:40):
make some of these allegations against her and the allegation
of mortgage fraud.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, So I am actually very conversant with this because
the person who did the investigations and who found all
of this stuff is a guy named Sam Antar, and
he was one of these happenstance things. Only I know
him around my neighborhood. It's just he knows I had
a podcast, he knows I appear on Fox. So he
brought it all to me and I kind of teased
it out, have waited until he really had something concrete.
(12:08):
But he brings me to documents and they're just inarguable.
So doesn't mean she's guilty. She's innocent until proven guilty,
just like anybody else. But that said, there is a
lot of smoke to the point that I think there's
gotta have to be a fire here because Sammy and
whycollafraud dot Com that's his blog where he lays it
all out, has the primary documents, and she's really put
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herself in a box on two main issues. There's a
bunch of attendant issues that are sort of collateral, but
he's got one main thing in that she very clearly
seems to have signed two documents write and lead up
to her case against Donald Trump that show she signed
and had notarized a power of attorney wherein she pledged
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that Virginia house that she was buying in Virginia was
going to be her primary residence. This is while she's
the New York State Attorney General, and then she did
the same thing for the mortgage application for that same property.
It also has a house another house in Virginia that
apparently she values at about one hundred to one hundred
and fifty thousand dollars. You give a range in your disclosures.
(13:12):
It's valued according to the mortgages on it, because there's
like three or four mortgages on it over five hundred thousand,
which is exactly what she went after Donald Trump for
literally over mortgaging a property. And then her other problem
is here in Brooklyn, she has an apartment building that
throughout the history of the building has been listed by
the New York City the authorities here in New York
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City as having a certificate of occupancy according to the
Department of Buildings, as having five apartments, five different residences.
Every time she's mortgaged it, and she's remortgaged it, she
applied for a distress loan and everything else, she puts
it at four and numerous times over and over. Why
does that matter for the same reason that the Virginia
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thinks a problem because she puts down four so that
she can get a.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
More favorable rate.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
That's why she pledged the Virginia property to be a
primary residence. You get a more favorable mortgage rate. Now
there's been complaints about it up here in Brooklyn. Apparently
they were washed away. They were swept under the rug
because she is who she is. You also have to
say to yourself, how in Virginia could she and cumber
properties with over five hundred thousand dollars when they're worth
the fifth of that. And you got to say people
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in the loan industry must have been complicit from where
I sit.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
So you got a real.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Investigation here where people could flip. You're going to have
to pull documents, You're gonna have to dump emails. All
that's going to go on now at the criminal Referral
has gone to DOJ And that's why she's holding fundraisers,
I'm sure, so that she can lawyer up, because I
think she's got real problems here and she's going to
frankly be lucky to retain her law license, never mind
her political career.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well, and also like really creepy back in I think
it was like from nineteen eighty three to two thousand,
for a property she purchased with her father, she apparently
listed them as husband wife.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
That apparently happened way back she was twenty years old.
It's a little unclear to me as to why that
would get you a more favorable rate or more favorable
treatment from a bank. Maybe she thought it made her
look more stable if she was married and she said,
you know, yeah, I'm going into this with my husband. Yeah,
you're right, that did happen. The statute limitations would have
run on that, but it just it's part of the
(15:21):
whole pattern here. And look, this is what sam Antar
was able to uncover without subpoena power. You can imagine
what's going to happen when DOJ digs into this with
the ability to go to a judge and get a
search bar on a subpoena and rip all of those
financial records. I think she's really got trouble here, and
it's just mind bibling because she was doing precisely what
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she went after Donald Trump for. It's just really a
let's be frank, it's really a delicious irony because most
of us in the legal community thought that her case
against Trump was entirely trumped up, no pun intended.
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Speaker 2 (17:11):
Do you think from what.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
We know now and as you said, you know, they'll
learn more right as they investigate. But uh, do you
think from what we know now and what you just
laid out, does that constitute mortgage fraud after under a
federal or New York state law?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
God, yeah, they're going to be able to find all
kinds of cases. She's one thing she's not going to
be able to do is to say that I mean,
she'll say it, but it's not gonna fly. She when
she claims ay, you're targeting me. These are the kind
of cases that are never brought. Yeah, that's not gonna work,
because they're going to be able to point to numerous,
numerous instances of I can tell you, for one thing,
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the thing with the certificate of occupancy. They go after
that all the time here in this city. And in
this case, you actually do have a victim. Unlike the
Donald Trump situation, where the loan was given to Donald
Trump with the full cognizance of the were happy to
give it to him, and he paid it all back
and they were happy to get the interest. In this case,
the banks can claim, hey, we were supposed to be
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charging a higher mortgage.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Rate all along.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
She owes us the interest difference here for whatever how
many years.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
So you do have a victim.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
So absolutely, she's potentially on the hook for mortgage fraud,
all those charges that the Feds always lay her on.
They're gonna have mortgage freud, wirefraud, mail fraud, steamed at defraud,
probably a conspiracy charge. I would think they're going to
be looking at the cousin. They're going to be looking
at the loan offices. I'd be looking to flip everybody,
because as you know, you flip up, you don't flip down.
(18:39):
And I would say, give it about six months, but
I think that six months from now you're probably going
to hear this stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Going into a grand jury.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
And God only knows what else they going to find,
because anybody who would be operating with such impunity and
had such arrogance to be doing what it appears she
was doing while going after Donald Trump was likely not
very defensive, let's say in texts and emails. It may
not have been very cautious about all of that, and
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it could lead them in all kinds of directions.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I really think she's opened herself up to trouble.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
And then how much trouble.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Well, Also, it's kind of hard to argue.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
When you're the attorney general that like you don't know
the law, right Like, It's like that just doesn't fly.
It's like, of all people, you should know the law,
you know, and if you don't know the law, attorney.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
General exactly, I mean, you know, I get a search,
you know, I just threw it into AI and her
office has prosecuted similar cases. So in no way she
can say, wow, you know, I'm going to claim ignorance.
First of all, it's not a defense number one, but
number two. People are gonna say, oh yeah, well what
about you know these fifteen people that you're locked up
on similar charges?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Because the AG's office does a lot of financial stuff, a.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Lot of things they do, so look, this is now
a personal experience. I had to deal with her a
few times, you know, when I was yeah, she's she's
pretty much, she's what you would expect. I mean, during
my primary contact with her was when I was committing
office sort of legal bureau for the NYPD, and you know,
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she's just it was during the twenty twenty quote unquote
Summer of Love, and they were trying to burn down
the city.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
They were literally trying to burn down Macy's.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I was there, you know, so I can attest to
it billion dollars in damage, I'm sure, just in New
York City. And while bricks were bouncing off the faces
of my cops quite literally, you know, I had to
go and watch one of my lieutenants get his face
so back together from a brick that hit him in
the face. I had to deal with the fact that
all she wanted to do was lock up cops. She
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was putting out on Twitter. Anybody that has anything approaching
an encounter with the police that's unprofessional, DM me directly.
And these cops were under man They were running around
twenty four to seven trying to save the city from
a riotous mob that was using the George Floyd thing
is cover for all of their frustrations with whatever they
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really ostensibly to, you know, the whole BLM thing, And
as the ostensible chief law enforcement officer for New.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
York State, she did nothing.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
You know, I was waiting for an offer of assistance
and we got none. And the amount of damage done
to the city, none are cops who got injured, et cetera,
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I could go on.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
It's a little bit of an old story right now,
but it was very clear what side of that whole
thing she was on. And of course all of it
now has been shown to be completely bankrupt.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Blum was a scam.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
If you really want to dig into it, we can,
you know, sort of relitigate the whole George Floyd thing.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I'm not here to do. Let's litigate it.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, I mean, you know, look if you've probably heard
about the documentary about it, and here's a guy that
did pushing robbery by holding a gun to the to
the belly of a pregnant woman.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
This guy was no hero. There should be no statues
the George Floyd around the nation, let's be clear, and
you know there are. Chavann has his own appeals process.
That's the cop.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
But when you see that the autopsy report for George
Floyd has him with what three different forms of drugs
in his system. The film, the video of him when
he was trying to pass the counterfeit money in the
badega before the cops came. If you look at the
video in that documentary that came out about it, you
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can see him swallow a pill when the cops come
up to him because they want to get caught with possession.
There are mitigating factors. Now, I do not want to
relitigate that whole thing just because you really have to
go deep on it, and the documentary that came out
about it, there was pushback on that as well.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
And I'm not.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Deep enough into it to be able to really speak
authoritatively about whether or not Chavn got a fair trial.
Didn't get a fair trial. Was it just a pyleon?
But what I will speak about is that the reaction
was completely a just an opportunistic chance for some of
the worst race hustlers in this country to get their
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wish list. And as a result, you've got criminal justice
reforms that are now to this day, continuing to harm
the very communities who they ostensibly are supposed to help.
Because where the crimes are recurring, who gets shot young
black men, That's who gets shot.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
That's just a matter of numbers.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
But yet we're supposed to all, you know, sort of
hide our eyes and act like that's not going on.
That's who suffers from this thing, not the limousine liberals
who have penthouses on Park Avenue.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
You know that, I know that in their hearts. Most
people know that. But it's about control.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
And as I said, I was there and very clearly
she was part of that whole opportunistic pylon.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
And it's amazing that she left herself open to this.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Although it's sort of rich that in New York City,
it's like she's doing the very thing she went after
Donald Trump did or didn't do. I mean, there's you know,
there's questions about because there weren't. The banks were happy
with him, right, Like they didn't feel like they were
defrauded or anything. So that's true, you know, So she
goes after him while knowing full well that she has
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done you know, worse probably right well, then going after
you know, and then New York City goes after people
like Daniel Penny or jose Alba for trying to defend
themselves meanwhile letting criminals out on the streets. It's like,
what the hell is justice in a city like New York.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yeah, you got to really ask yourself. And you know,
we're now teed up, and you know, I tell people
this and I get these incredulous looks. You know, we're
teed up for an ancient Cuomo mayoralty. He's gonna win
barring something crazy. And it's an amazing thing because it's
it's it's an amazing thing to watch because what it
is is hyper progressive, especially in Manhattan Island where I live,
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that have to sort of cut a deal with themselves.
There is there's no universe under which they could vote
for even a min Republican or even an independent who
leans to the right. There's a guy named Jim Walden
here who is probably center right, maybe just center. You know,
there's just no way they can bring themselves to do that,
so they would rather But voting for Cuomo is something
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of an admission of how wrong they've gotten things, because
Cuomo is running on a platform of just the kind
of things you and I are talking about, restoring law
and order, getting the homeless off the streets, restoring some
sanity to the city. And yet they know he's the
one who signed the bills that created a lot of this.
He signed into law not only.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
All the COVID mess, but the criminal justice reforms that
have just completely destroyed quality of life in New York City. Okay,
what anybody says.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I'm living here my whole life, in various capacities, and
it was really in a.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Renaissance this town.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
You know, the tourism was going up every year, it
will breaking new records, crime drafts were going up every year,
and that was just too successful for everybody. And so
did the Blasio administration and collusion with the Cuomo administration
on the state level past this slate of criminal justice
reforms that was still suffering from. But the left cannot
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countenance the idea that we're going to undo that stuff.
They're fighting every little incremental attempt to change, and Cuomo
is their grand bargain. Well, you know what, he had
a bunch of sex harassment stuff. Yeah, he paused a
lot of this, but you know what he's saying, the
right things will look away, and he's going to be
the next mayor, and he probably will be for eight years.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
We've got more of Paul.
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like even the statistics for crime in places like New
York City don't matter as much if people aren't being
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arrested and so like they don't really gauge how bad
things are if you know, these criminals aren't being arrested
and thrown minds are behind the bars, right, So like
even those numbers don't give like the full picture, right
for places like New York City and some of these cities.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, no, that's absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
The confluence of the insurance industry and the criminals, justice reforms,
the bail reforms, et cetera. That's really the sort of
sour spot and sweet spot whereld.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
This comes together.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Because it's why in New York we lock up our
toothpaste but not our criminals.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Because if you are a Rite.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Eight or a CVS or any of the big you know,
drug store chains around the city and there's you know,
a leth of them, you don't even call the police
anymore because if you do, they come.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
That's a report. Your insurance goes up.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
If a security guard very often loves north through the
cup tussles with a homeless person who comes in and
just fills a bag work with stuff and leaves, you
then end up having a complaint and there is a
host of lawyers lined up to sue over that, and
the insurance companies will tell you, well, you got to
get rid of that security guard, otherwise we're going to
drop you. The local precinct doesn't want to catch these numbers.
(29:44):
They don't even a misdemeanor number. Okay, they'll live with that.
But if a security guard tussles with a homeless guy
who's stealing toothpaste, now it bumps to a felony robbery.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Now the crime statistics go up.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
So there is this, you know, sort of metric that
is tacit here that everybody is trying to avoid, which
is any of these quality of life crimes. They could
make things look worse to downtown, where all of this
stuff is counted up and where the newspapers get their articles,
and so as the result, there's this whole shadow world
of crime that nobody acknowledges. And look, we have a
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pretty good police commission. Now, she's Jessica Titius doing what
she can. But the cops and she are operating within
a system that's just being gained against them. This system
hates the police, hates the prosecutors. Really, I hear just
as much grief from line level prosecutors as I do
from the cops themselves. They just can't get a case
to trial, everything is dropped. It's dropped down at the
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least from a felony to a misdemeanor. And all these
things are done to perpetuate a fiction that the city
is as safe as it used to be, and it's
just not.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Do you think so, tiss James's just James is running
for reelection as attorney in New York Atraney General twenty
twenty six. Do you think this mortgage stuff, how quickly
could it pick up? I wonder how much of an
impact that would have on the Attorney General's race.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I think she's done. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
You know, like if this were the Biden administration, I
would say, well, you know what, they'll just let it
sit there and it'll die, and they'll just obfuscate it
because that was a a I was an administration that
had no soul that the complete farce at the southern
border was proof of that, never mind a host of
other things that are not.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
But I mean, what, there was not one federal case.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Think about that. There was not one DOJ case against
Trendy Aragua. They didn't make one conspiracy case or gang case,
gang you know, a Rico case, nothing like that against
any of these guys, they just decided to punt.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I don't know what the heck they did.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
They had literally had hey have you seen the numbers
half of the FBI working on the January sixth thing,
and in metric there and I have this direct from
a source was that if your foot touched the Capital steps,
you were going.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
To get arrested.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
And so they had hand the FBI scanning videos looking
for old ladies whose feet touched the steps and then
trying to use facial recognition software to figure out who
they were to go out and make an arrest. And
I don't have to really even speculate that much. And
I was talking to somebody who was on an FBI
test force the other day, who I guess is a source.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Now he's an old friend.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Told me that when Donald Trump won, there were FBI
agents at their desks with their heads down crying. And
I said, and I said to him, you know men,
and he was, yeah, yeah, young men.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
In the FBI.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
You know this is these are the guys who will
hired during the Obama years and everything else. So the
old FBI a lot of respect for and then truth,
you know in advertising here, I don't know I see
eye to eye with them. You know, we had a
lot of interagency battles and all that. I got the
scars to prove it.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Some I one, so I lost.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Generally, it was better to just kind of cooperate and
try to find the middle ground, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
But I never took it personally. I saw very.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Few of them who I thought had some sort of
political ulterior motive.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I don't know that you can say that anymore. So
now with a Trump.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
DOJ and with Pam Bondi in there, she's not going
to sit on this. She's going to look at this
and say, are you kidding? She gifted us this case.
This thing's going to a grand jury, and they're going
to get indictments. And I don't see how you can
be an attorney general when you may have a felony
indictment or prosecution and conviction.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
On your record.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
You're automatically going to lose your license. And you can't
be an attorney general without a law license. So I
think she's in real trouble. As I was saying earlier,
look it is at this point she hasn't been charged,
she hasn't been indicted, None of that stuff has happened.
But according to the stuff that's public, even some on
the left, and I won't name them, but this is
some news outlets on the left who are willing to
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even say, yeah, it looks to be trouble here. Just
the fact that the New York Times reported on her
that must have killed them. But they had a report.
There's a lot of smoke here. The fact that they
would do that, when you consider how much stuff they're
willing to ignore, tells me that even they're willing to
accede to the idea that she really seems to have blundered.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, and so Paul, on.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
That note before we go, obviously, you know you had
mentioned the New York Times that even some you know,
more liberal outlets are saying that what she did was bad.
But you know, there is going to be this argument
that it's a political persecution. The irony is that these
are going to be the people who wanted the FBI
and were cheering on what was happening to Donald Trump.
So the hypocrites. But is there any credibility to that
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or is this just so bad and so blatant that
it needs to be prosecuted.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
The latter because she's a public servant because she's supposed
to be New York State's top law enforcement officer and
top prosecutor. But you know what the irony is.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
The GUYO discovered it, Sam Antar, who I referenced earlier.
He was arrested himself back in the seventies for a
financial crime and he ended up flipping.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
He testified for the prosecution and.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Has since worked for the government assisting them since then.
So whatever, it's been forty fifty years working with the
government to help them put together financial crime cases.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
He's a Democrat, He's not a Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
He no, he hasn't had no contacts with the Donald
Trump regime administration.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
So that argument is going to fall flash.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
She's going to make it, and her proxies will make
it of course as well, but it's not going to
hold water. And I got to tell you the problem
for her is the documents. She's going to have to
what's she going to claim that the documents are fake?
The bank is going to give it all up. She's
going to have people that are going to be afraid
that they're going to get caught up in this.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
And if the deal.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Is hey, look you're going to get charged with conspiracy
here or you're going to tell us what happened. You're
going to get some thirty year old loan officer who's
going to say, Wow, she was the attorney general. I
thought it was okay, but I guess I was wrong. Yeah,
these are her documents. I will attest to that. The
documents are authentic, and boom, you got her right there.
For all the fraud stuff we talked about, perjury, a
whole host of federal crimes because the banks are involved.
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That bumps it all the federal and as I said,
she can spout all she wants, but they have the receipts.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Well, Paul, really interesting stuff. I'd love to have you
back on as this stuff like pops right, Like, I'd
love to have you on as we as we learn
more and as the investigation moves on. So it's it's
just like the Terney is just so rich.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
It's just it's really amazing, it really is. I'd love
to come back. You let me know when. Yeah, I'll
keep you guys updated. You're the best.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
I really appreciate your time. Good stuffs, very.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Interesting, good stuff. Sure, anytime, anytime, Thank of me.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
That was Paul Morrow. We appreciate him making the time
to join the show. Appreciate you guys at home for
listening every Tuesday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout
the week until next time.
Buckle up and get ready for a hard hitting episode
of the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we will expose
the hypocrisy and the potential criminality of New York Attorney
General Letitia James. You know who is the one who
relentlessly pursued President Trump, claiming no one was above the law.
(00:21):
But now the tables have turned. Federal officials have referred
James for criminal prosecution over alleged mortgage fraud tied to
properties in Virginia and New York. So today we're diving
deep into these explosive allegations with Paul Morrow. You know
him from Fox News. He's also former MIPD Legal Bureau
(00:43):
Commanding Officer and executive officer of the Intelligence Operations and
Analysis Bureau. So let's just say he knows a thing
or two about all of this. So what exactly did
James do and will she face consequences? She's also running
for election for attorney general, so will this derail that.
(01:04):
We're gonna ask Paul all these tough questions. Plus we'll
get his take on why these judges are blocking President
Trump's mass deportation plans. Was this the plan from the
left all along, that they knew that he wouldn't be
able to do these mass deportations. Kind of brilliant, to
be honest, but problematic for a country. Get ready for
the Unfiltered Truth with Paul Morrow.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Well, Paul, it's great to have you back on this show.
A lot's happened if I've had you on, so I
appreciate you making the time.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Of course, anytime.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So first I wanted to get into all this resistance
that President Trump is facing as he tries to deport
legal aliens who came here. You know, apparently open borders
are perfectly acceptable, but if you try to deport any
of these people, a judge will try to stop you. Well,
why do you think he's being met with so much resistance?
(02:04):
And you know, do you think the Trump administration is
following the letter of the law in trying to deport
these people?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Well, talk about being on the wrong side of history. Huh,
this is going to check out retrospectively. I think as
maybe one of the biggest blunders that the left has
ever engaged in, which is a big statement because the
American people are really not on board with this, and
they're making that as the Dems are making it a
very simple sort of bilateral choice. You know, it's just
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really a choice of a ar B. A we have
a safe country, B we don't.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And they seem to.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Have missed a message of the last election because it
was probably the main thing driving the election. Maybe the
economy a little bit more, but you know, the border
really was the most salient issue because it was really
just a such a clear choice. Now, I do think
that there is an element of sort of the priests
(03:03):
here in that they cognizantly that is, the Dems did
let in ten to twelve million unvetted migrants knowing that
it was going to be almost impossible to.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Get them all out.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
And so now the expectation is, okay, fight the Republican's
tooth and nail, fight Donald Trump tooth and nail, and
at some point you'll have to cut a deal because
you realistically cannot give full due process to ten to
twelve million illegals. The entire system will shut down. And
so I respect the idea of the worst first, but
the pledge to get rid of ten to twelve million illegals,
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to reject them, eject them, I should say, from the country,
is just not feasible. And so the Trump administration really
does face a dilemma because it was the promise, and
the Dems are fighting a tooth and nail to make
sure that full due process has to apply to all
ten to twelve million. And I do want under if
that was not the plan all along, and at some
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point a deal will have to be cut. Millions stay
and they're going to thank the Democratic Party by becoming
full citizens in voting.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Well, Paul, as you were talking, that was the thought
bubble that just popped into my mind, Like, what a
genius plan, right that they knew, they knew that you
wouldn't be able to offer due process to all these individuals,
and that he would be stopped and trying to deport
mass you know, deportation.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
So it's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
You open the southern border, you let the floodgates go in,
you get a new voter base that gives you power.
And then now the fight moving forward is going to be,
you know, how do we prevent all these people from
voting in the future? Right, the whole new You're you're
basically importing, you know, an entire state full of people.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, it's crazy, Yeah, it really is. And you know,
you don't have to speculate too far.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
It's not like we're weigh out on a limb here,
because New York City already tried. It got voted down
in the highest court in New York State, but it
went that far, and they tried to give illegals full
voting rights here in New York City. So they're very
clearly testing the waters. And you know, we're saying the
quiet part out loud. By now, it's become pretty clear
(05:14):
that Joe Biden was not pulling these strings. And so
someplace in the inner cabal, whatever hunt was actually running
the government in America for four years, somebody in there
came up with this plan and just said, look, flood
the zone and then when the time comes, were we
to lose, they'll never be able to get them out,
and over time it's just going to be a fad
(05:35):
of complee.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
So you're right, there is an element.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
You have to say, there was an element of political
genius to it. And yet it's one of the reasons
that they lost both houses and the presidency. And I
wouldn't be surprised at all if they win the next election.
If the economy does anything like the Trump people wanted
to do because, as I said, they've made it just
such a clear you know, in this age of so
much white noise, to be able to just point to
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an issue and make it very very simple that we
are on the side of safety and they are not.
You know, guys like Van Holland am making it easy,
you know.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And how dangerous did some of these people make our country?
I mean you look at places like New York City
for example. You know how much more dangerous did some
of these individuals, this influx of new people coming in
the country make some of our communities.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It's a good question because there's no real metric for it, right,
you know, because the cities.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You know, New York State is a centuary state.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
New York City is a century city, and you know,
you see that pattern around the country in terms of
blue cities and blue states, and so as a result,
you can't really test it and you can't prove a negative.
But that said that said, look, well, have dudes have
eyes and if you walk around the city, if nothing else,
let's even take the arrests as a metric off the table,
all right, if nothing else here in.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
New York City and I'm sure it's going around and
the rest of the country.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You you have displaced the homeless and mentally ill population
from the vast majority of the city run shelters because
they had to be given over to migrants, and just
a cascading effect because then what happens is you have
to take over hotels. Midtown in New York City is dying.
I know a couple of people now in my neighborhood
who have restaurants who will just look at a close
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up shop or have because the tourist trade has dropped off,
and all of these.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Things just lean on each other.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
They all influence each other, they all lead one to another,
and it's because you have a much worse visible homeless problem.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Some of them are migrants, but not all, and.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
It's because they've had to house in New York City
by Eric Adams underestimation, as many as one hundred thousand.
And then, of course there is the fact that you
and I have spoken about on the air so often,
which is that.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
You know, look, we have enough of our purpose.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
If you let in ten to twelve million unvetted people
and you take one percent of that, you've just let
in one hundred thousand new criminals. We don't have enough
of our own. We've got to import them, and no
vetting was done. You and I both know that the
CHNV program was a huge force multiplier for the migrant
criminal element, for the gangs and the cartels, and they
(08:13):
were paid for to come. We literally ship them in
on our time and our dime. So it was just madness.
And when you say to yourself, why would any nation
do this to itself, you have to say to yourself,
there's got to be someplace in there, some hidden objective.
And I think you and I tasted out a few
minutes ago, which is there expecting this to be a
massive democratic voting block at some point?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Well, and we haven't even you know, I mean, we
haven't seen this, but there have been threads. You know,
you had Christopher Ray warn about some terrorists. You know,
we know that we've seen a record number of terrorists
on the watch lists try to enter in the United States.
So who knows who has actually been let in here?
I mean, you've worked at the intelligence operations at the NYPD.
(08:58):
How much of a threat is at still and how
concerned are you that that will materialize in the near future?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Put it this way, they'd have to be morons.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And when I say they, now, I'm going to switch
to a little bit more of a nation state argument
here the Chinese and other nations that mean, it's less
in North Koreans, but certainly the Chinese, the Iranians, and
the Russians. They'd have to be morons not to take
advantage of the fact that New York, excuse me, America
blew open its open borders. It's particularly at southern border
(09:32):
to any comer. They'd have to be complete idiots not
to have taken advantage of that. And I can tell
you they're not complete idiots, all right. So there are
numerous examples that we could cite, and you know, that's
just a tip of the iceberg. But I'm going to
go back to a historical There was a rubrik here
to this, and that's the Mario boat lift during the
(09:53):
seventies on the Jimmy Carter because Castro took that opportunity
to open up his jails and his insane asylums to
about one hundred and fifty thousand Cubans who wanted to
leave that island, and he they mostly were not criminals
and insane people. But there were plenty. But one thing
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that's often lost to history is that he also reportedly
flooded Florida with a good number of intelligence agents. Cuba
has a very active intelligence apparatus that always has They've
trained ven asuell as and they were all Soviet trained
at the time. So one hundred and one hundred and
fifty Cuban assets into Florida reportedly, some of them and
(10:34):
it's not as a classified or I think reportedly still
active and set up networks. And one of the things
they do is they rip off the benefits system and
they're trained to do that. They know there are tremendous
holes in our benefits system, and it's just another way
to drain the American treasury and to support there a
lot of these intelligence operations by these foreign adversaries. They
(10:57):
are self funding because of things like that. This and
the Cubans did it. You know for a fact that
Russians must have been doing it. We know that there
were fifty thousand unvetted Chinese that came in through the
southern border. The idea that none of the more intelligence
assets beggars belief. And so yeah, we've thrown ourselves open
and we may never really know the extent of the damage,
but at some point it'll become a parent, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
So I want to get into this Tiss James situation.
So the Attorney General of New York, she told us
that no one was above the law. And it turns
out there's some stuff in her background that could potentially
get her in legal trouble. You know what, do you
(11:40):
make some of these allegations against her and the allegation
of mortgage fraud.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, So I am actually very conversant with this because
the person who did the investigations and who found all
of this stuff is a guy named Sam Antar, and
he was one of these happenstance things. Only I know
him around my neighborhood. It's just he knows I had
a podcast, he knows I appear on Fox. So he
brought it all to me and I kind of teased
it out, have waited until he really had something concrete.
(12:08):
But he brings me to documents and they're just inarguable.
So doesn't mean she's guilty. She's innocent until proven guilty,
just like anybody else. But that said, there is a
lot of smoke to the point that I think there's
gotta have to be a fire here because Sammy and
whycollafraud dot Com that's his blog where he lays it
all out, has the primary documents, and she's really put
(12:29):
herself in a box on two main issues. There's a
bunch of attendant issues that are sort of collateral, but
he's got one main thing in that she very clearly
seems to have signed two documents write and lead up
to her case against Donald Trump that show she signed
and had notarized a power of attorney wherein she pledged
(12:51):
that Virginia house that she was buying in Virginia was
going to be her primary residence. This is while she's
the New York State Attorney General, and then she did
the same thing for the mortgage application for that same property.
It also has a house another house in Virginia that
apparently she values at about one hundred to one hundred
and fifty thousand dollars. You give a range in your disclosures.
(13:12):
It's valued according to the mortgages on it, because there's
like three or four mortgages on it over five hundred thousand,
which is exactly what she went after Donald Trump for
literally over mortgaging a property. And then her other problem
is here in Brooklyn, she has an apartment building that
throughout the history of the building has been listed by
the New York City the authorities here in New York
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City as having a certificate of occupancy according to the
Department of Buildings, as having five apartments, five different residences.
Every time she's mortgaged it, and she's remortgaged it, she
applied for a distress loan and everything else, she puts
it at four and numerous times over and over. Why
does that matter for the same reason that the Virginia
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thinks a problem because she puts down four so that
she can get a.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
More favorable rate.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
That's why she pledged the Virginia property to be a
primary residence. You get a more favorable mortgage rate. Now
there's been complaints about it up here in Brooklyn. Apparently
they were washed away. They were swept under the rug
because she is who she is. You also have to
say to yourself, how in Virginia could she and cumber
properties with over five hundred thousand dollars when they're worth
the fifth of that. And you got to say people
(14:25):
in the loan industry must have been complicit from where
I sit.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
So you got a real.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Investigation here where people could flip. You're going to have
to pull documents, You're gonna have to dump emails. All
that's going to go on now at the criminal Referral
has gone to DOJ And that's why she's holding fundraisers,
I'm sure, so that she can lawyer up, because I
think she's got real problems here and she's going to
frankly be lucky to retain her law license, never mind
her political career.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well, and also like really creepy back in I think
it was like from nineteen eighty three to two thousand,
for a property she purchased with her father, she apparently
listed them as husband wife.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
That apparently happened way back she was twenty years old.
It's a little unclear to me as to why that
would get you a more favorable rate or more favorable
treatment from a bank. Maybe she thought it made her
look more stable if she was married and she said,
you know, yeah, I'm going into this with my husband. Yeah,
you're right, that did happen. The statute limitations would have
run on that, but it just it's part of the
(15:21):
whole pattern here. And look, this is what sam Antar
was able to uncover without subpoena power. You can imagine
what's going to happen when DOJ digs into this with
the ability to go to a judge and get a
search bar on a subpoena and rip all of those
financial records. I think she's really got trouble here, and
it's just mind bibling because she was doing precisely what
(15:42):
she went after Donald Trump for. It's just really a
let's be frank, it's really a delicious irony because most
of us in the legal community thought that her case
against Trump was entirely trumped up, no pun intended.
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Speaker 2 (17:11):
Do you think from what.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
We know now and as you said, you know, they'll
learn more right as they investigate. But uh, do you
think from what we know now and what you just
laid out, does that constitute mortgage fraud after under a
federal or New York state law?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
God, yeah, they're going to be able to find all
kinds of cases. She's one thing she's not going to
be able to do is to say that I mean,
she'll say it, but it's not gonna fly. She when
she claims ay, you're targeting me. These are the kind
of cases that are never brought. Yeah, that's not gonna work,
because they're going to be able to point to numerous,
numerous instances of I can tell you, for one thing,
(17:47):
the thing with the certificate of occupancy. They go after
that all the time here in this city. And in
this case, you actually do have a victim. Unlike the
Donald Trump situation, where the loan was given to Donald
Trump with the full cognizance of the were happy to
give it to him, and he paid it all back
and they were happy to get the interest. In this case,
the banks can claim, hey, we were supposed to be
(18:09):
charging a higher mortgage.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Rate all along.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
She owes us the interest difference here for whatever how
many years.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
So you do have a victim.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
So absolutely, she's potentially on the hook for mortgage fraud,
all those charges that the Feds always lay her on.
They're gonna have mortgage freud, wirefraud, mail fraud, steamed at defraud,
probably a conspiracy charge. I would think they're going to
be looking at the cousin. They're going to be looking
at the loan offices. I'd be looking to flip everybody,
because as you know, you flip up, you don't flip down.
(18:39):
And I would say, give it about six months, but
I think that six months from now you're probably going
to hear this stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Going into a grand jury.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
And God only knows what else they going to find,
because anybody who would be operating with such impunity and
had such arrogance to be doing what it appears she
was doing while going after Donald Trump was likely not
very defensive, let's say in texts and emails. It may
not have been very cautious about all of that, and
(19:09):
it could lead them in all kinds of directions.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I really think she's opened herself up to trouble.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
And then how much trouble.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Well, Also, it's kind of hard to argue.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
When you're the attorney general that like you don't know
the law, right Like, It's like that just doesn't fly.
It's like, of all people, you should know the law,
you know, and if you don't know the law, attorney.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
General exactly, I mean, you know, I get a search,
you know, I just threw it into AI and her
office has prosecuted similar cases. So in no way she
can say, wow, you know, I'm going to claim ignorance.
First of all, it's not a defense number one, but
number two. People are gonna say, oh yeah, well what
about you know these fifteen people that you're locked up
on similar charges?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Because the AG's office does a lot of financial stuff, a.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Lot of things they do, so look, this is now
a personal experience. I had to deal with her a
few times, you know, when I was yeah, she's she's
pretty much, she's what you would expect. I mean, during
my primary contact with her was when I was committing
office sort of legal bureau for the NYPD, and you know,
(20:14):
she's just it was during the twenty twenty quote unquote
Summer of Love, and they were trying to burn down
the city.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
They were literally trying to burn down Macy's.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I was there, you know, so I can attest to
it billion dollars in damage, I'm sure, just in New
York City. And while bricks were bouncing off the faces
of my cops quite literally, you know, I had to
go and watch one of my lieutenants get his face
so back together from a brick that hit him in
the face. I had to deal with the fact that
all she wanted to do was lock up cops. She
(20:44):
was putting out on Twitter. Anybody that has anything approaching
an encounter with the police that's unprofessional, DM me directly.
And these cops were under man They were running around
twenty four to seven trying to save the city from
a riotous mob that was using the George Floyd thing
is cover for all of their frustrations with whatever they
(21:05):
really ostensibly to, you know, the whole BLM thing, And
as the ostensible chief law enforcement officer for New.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
York State, she did nothing.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
You know, I was waiting for an offer of assistance
and we got none. And the amount of damage done
to the city, none are cops who got injured, et cetera,
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I could go on.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
It's a little bit of an old story right now,
but it was very clear what side of that whole
thing she was on. And of course all of it
now has been shown to be completely bankrupt.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Blum was a scam.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
If you really want to dig into it, we can,
you know, sort of relitigate the whole George Floyd thing.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I'm not here to do. Let's litigate it.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, I mean, you know, look if you've probably heard
about the documentary about it, and here's a guy that
did pushing robbery by holding a gun to the to
the belly of a pregnant woman.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
This guy was no hero. There should be no statues
the George Floyd around the nation, let's be clear, and
you know there are. Chavann has his own appeals process.
That's the cop.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
But when you see that the autopsy report for George
Floyd has him with what three different forms of drugs
in his system. The film, the video of him when
he was trying to pass the counterfeit money in the
badega before the cops came. If you look at the
video in that documentary that came out about it, you
(22:24):
can see him swallow a pill when the cops come
up to him because they want to get caught with possession.
There are mitigating factors. Now, I do not want to
relitigate that whole thing just because you really have to
go deep on it, and the documentary that came out
about it, there was pushback on that as well.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
And I'm not.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Deep enough into it to be able to really speak
authoritatively about whether or not Chavn got a fair trial.
Didn't get a fair trial. Was it just a pyleon?
But what I will speak about is that the reaction
was completely a just an opportunistic chance for some of
the worst race hustlers in this country to get their
(23:04):
wish list. And as a result, you've got criminal justice
reforms that are now to this day, continuing to harm
the very communities who they ostensibly are supposed to help.
Because where the crimes are recurring, who gets shot young
black men, That's who gets shot.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
That's just a matter of numbers.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
But yet we're supposed to all, you know, sort of
hide our eyes and act like that's not going on.
That's who suffers from this thing, not the limousine liberals
who have penthouses on Park Avenue.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
You know that, I know that in their hearts. Most
people know that. But it's about control.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
And as I said, I was there and very clearly
she was part of that whole opportunistic pylon.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
And it's amazing that she left herself open to this.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Although it's sort of rich that in New York City,
it's like she's doing the very thing she went after
Donald Trump did or didn't do. I mean, there's you know,
there's questions about because there weren't. The banks were happy
with him, right, Like they didn't feel like they were
defrauded or anything. So that's true, you know, So she
goes after him while knowing full well that she has
(24:09):
done you know, worse probably right well, then going after
you know, and then New York City goes after people
like Daniel Penny or jose Alba for trying to defend
themselves meanwhile letting criminals out on the streets. It's like,
what the hell is justice in a city like New York.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yeah, you got to really ask yourself. And you know,
we're now teed up, and you know, I tell people
this and I get these incredulous looks. You know, we're
teed up for an ancient Cuomo mayoralty. He's gonna win
barring something crazy. And it's an amazing thing because it's
it's it's an amazing thing to watch because what it
is is hyper progressive, especially in Manhattan Island where I live,
(24:53):
that have to sort of cut a deal with themselves.
There is there's no universe under which they could vote
for even a min Republican or even an independent who
leans to the right. There's a guy named Jim Walden
here who is probably center right, maybe just center. You know,
there's just no way they can bring themselves to do that,
so they would rather But voting for Cuomo is something
(25:17):
of an admission of how wrong they've gotten things, because
Cuomo is running on a platform of just the kind
of things you and I are talking about, restoring law
and order, getting the homeless off the streets, restoring some
sanity to the city. And yet they know he's the
one who signed the bills that created a lot of this.
He signed into law not only.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
All the COVID mess, but the criminal justice reforms that
have just completely destroyed quality of life in New York City. Okay,
what anybody says.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I'm living here my whole life, in various capacities, and
it was really in a.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Renaissance this town.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
You know, the tourism was going up every year, it
will breaking new records, crime drafts were going up every year,
and that was just too successful for everybody. And so
did the Blasio administration and collusion with the Cuomo administration
on the state level past this slate of criminal justice
reforms that was still suffering from. But the left cannot
(26:14):
countenance the idea that we're going to undo that stuff.
They're fighting every little incremental attempt to change, and Cuomo
is their grand bargain. Well, you know what, he had
a bunch of sex harassment stuff. Yeah, he paused a
lot of this, but you know what he's saying, the
right things will look away, and he's going to be
the next mayor, and he probably will be for eight years.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
We've got more of Paul.
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York City don't matter as much if people aren't being
(28:23):
arrested and so like they don't really gauge how bad
things are if you know, these criminals aren't being arrested
and thrown minds are behind the bars, right, So like
even those numbers don't give like the full picture, right
for places like New York City and some of these cities.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, no, that's absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
The confluence of the insurance industry and the criminals, justice reforms,
the bail reforms, et cetera. That's really the sort of
sour spot and sweet spot whereld.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
This comes together.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Because it's why in New York we lock up our
toothpaste but not our criminals.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Because if you are a Rite.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Eight or a CVS or any of the big you know,
drug store chains around the city and there's you know,
a leth of them, you don't even call the police
anymore because if you do, they come.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
That's a report. Your insurance goes up.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
If a security guard very often loves north through the
cup tussles with a homeless person who comes in and
just fills a bag work with stuff and leaves, you
then end up having a complaint and there is a
host of lawyers lined up to sue over that, and
the insurance companies will tell you, well, you got to
get rid of that security guard, otherwise we're going to
drop you. The local precinct doesn't want to catch these numbers.
(29:44):
They don't even a misdemeanor number. Okay, they'll live with that.
But if a security guard tussles with a homeless guy
who's stealing toothpaste, now it bumps to a felony robbery.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Now the crime statistics go up.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
So there is this, you know, sort of metric that
is tacit here that everybody is trying to avoid, which
is any of these quality of life crimes. They could
make things look worse to downtown, where all of this
stuff is counted up and where the newspapers get their articles,
and so as the result, there's this whole shadow world
of crime that nobody acknowledges. And look, we have a
(30:16):
pretty good police commission. Now, she's Jessica Titius doing what
she can. But the cops and she are operating within
a system that's just being gained against them. This system
hates the police, hates the prosecutors. Really, I hear just
as much grief from line level prosecutors as I do
from the cops themselves. They just can't get a case
to trial, everything is dropped. It's dropped down at the
(30:39):
least from a felony to a misdemeanor. And all these
things are done to perpetuate a fiction that the city
is as safe as it used to be, and it's
just not.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Do you think so, tiss James's just James is running
for reelection as attorney in New York Atraney General twenty
twenty six. Do you think this mortgage stuff, how quickly
could it pick up? I wonder how much of an
impact that would have on the Attorney General's race.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I think she's done. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
You know, like if this were the Biden administration, I
would say, well, you know what, they'll just let it
sit there and it'll die, and they'll just obfuscate it
because that was a a I was an administration that
had no soul that the complete farce at the southern
border was proof of that, never mind a host of
other things that are not.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
But I mean, what, there was not one federal case.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Think about that. There was not one DOJ case against
Trendy Aragua. They didn't make one conspiracy case or gang case,
gang you know, a Rico case, nothing like that against
any of these guys, they just decided to punt.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I don't know what the heck they did.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
They had literally had hey have you seen the numbers
half of the FBI working on the January sixth thing,
and in metric there and I have this direct from
a source was that if your foot touched the Capital steps,
you were going.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
To get arrested.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
And so they had hand the FBI scanning videos looking
for old ladies whose feet touched the steps and then
trying to use facial recognition software to figure out who
they were to go out and make an arrest. And
I don't have to really even speculate that much. And
I was talking to somebody who was on an FBI
test force the other day, who I guess is a source.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Now he's an old friend.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Told me that when Donald Trump won, there were FBI
agents at their desks with their heads down crying. And
I said, and I said to him, you know men,
and he was, yeah, yeah, young men.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
In the FBI.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
You know this is these are the guys who will
hired during the Obama years and everything else. So the
old FBI a lot of respect for and then truth,
you know in advertising here, I don't know I see
eye to eye with them. You know, we had a
lot of interagency battles and all that. I got the
scars to prove it.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Some I one, so I lost.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Generally, it was better to just kind of cooperate and
try to find the middle ground, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
But I never took it personally. I saw very.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Few of them who I thought had some sort of
political ulterior motive.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I don't know that you can say that anymore. So
now with a Trump.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
DOJ and with Pam Bondi in there, she's not going
to sit on this. She's going to look at this
and say, are you kidding? She gifted us this case.
This thing's going to a grand jury, and they're going
to get indictments. And I don't see how you can
be an attorney general when you may have a felony
indictment or prosecution and conviction.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
On your record.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
You're automatically going to lose your license. And you can't
be an attorney general without a law license. So I
think she's in real trouble. As I was saying earlier,
look it is at this point she hasn't been charged,
she hasn't been indicted, None of that stuff has happened.
But according to the stuff that's public, even some on
the left, and I won't name them, but this is
some news outlets on the left who are willing to
(33:47):
even say, yeah, it looks to be trouble here. Just
the fact that the New York Times reported on her
that must have killed them. But they had a report.
There's a lot of smoke here. The fact that they
would do that, when you consider how much stuff they're
willing to ignore, tells me that even they're willing to
accede to the idea that she really seems to have blundered.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, and so Paul, on.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
That note before we go, obviously, you know you had
mentioned the New York Times that even some you know,
more liberal outlets are saying that what she did was bad.
But you know, there is going to be this argument
that it's a political persecution. The irony is that these
are going to be the people who wanted the FBI
and were cheering on what was happening to Donald Trump.
So the hypocrites. But is there any credibility to that
(34:29):
or is this just so bad and so blatant that
it needs to be prosecuted.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
The latter because she's a public servant because she's supposed
to be New York State's top law enforcement officer and
top prosecutor. But you know what the irony is.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
The GUYO discovered it, Sam Antar, who I referenced earlier.
He was arrested himself back in the seventies for a
financial crime and he ended up flipping.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
He testified for the prosecution and.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Has since worked for the government assisting them since then.
So whatever, it's been forty fifty years working with the
government to help them put together financial crime cases.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
He's a Democrat, He's not a Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
He no, he hasn't had no contacts with the Donald
Trump regime administration.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
So that argument is going to fall flash.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
She's going to make it, and her proxies will make
it of course as well, but it's not going to
hold water. And I got to tell you the problem
for her is the documents. She's going to have to
what's she going to claim that the documents are fake?
The bank is going to give it all up. She's
going to have people that are going to be afraid
that they're going to get caught up in this.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
And if the deal.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Is hey, look you're going to get charged with conspiracy
here or you're going to tell us what happened. You're
going to get some thirty year old loan officer who's
going to say, Wow, she was the attorney general. I
thought it was okay, but I guess I was wrong. Yeah,
these are her documents. I will attest to that. The
documents are authentic, and boom, you got her right there.
For all the fraud stuff we talked about, perjury, a
whole host of federal crimes because the banks are involved.
(36:01):
That bumps it all the federal and as I said,
she can spout all she wants, but they have the receipts.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Well, Paul, really interesting stuff. I'd love to have you
back on as this stuff like pops right, Like, I'd
love to have you on as we as we learn
more and as the investigation moves on. So it's it's
just like the Terney is just so rich.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
It's just it's really amazing, it really is. I'd love
to come back. You let me know when. Yeah, I'll
keep you guys updated. You're the best.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
I really appreciate your time. Good stuffs, very.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Interesting, good stuff. Sure, anytime, anytime, Thank of me.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
That was Paul Morrow. We appreciate him making the time
to join the show. Appreciate you guys at home for
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