Dan Lanning Opens Up About Ohio State Loss & Oregon's CFP Goals + Nico Iamaleava UCLA Rumor Reaction

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we had Patty Pimlet do what he did to our
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He keeps popping up, keeps on popping up, He keeps them.
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I actually comments on the clip like this, I will confirm,
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I think at some point we just got to hire him.

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Yeah, we need a little diversity.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And here's the thing too, and this is this is
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Right of course, safe space.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
I love Evan Coob's enthusiasm. I worry about Evan Kobe's
fandom a little bit if you were if he were
to come into this office, Like I just worry that
he's like he's like a true tier one, Like he's
so about the bull that it's like, is that going
to get in the way of the work. But you
want people who come in and world who want to
die for the brand about the Boys. I didn't know

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the background, the history, everything about it to where they
know what they're looking for when creating for I love
that and I don't disagree with at all. I will
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someone's willing to die for the brand, and then there's
somebody who has, you know, a weird dream where they
think God told them to kill will confident Taylor Lawan,
and all of a sudden, they come in the office
with a sat up shotgun. They pumped too into us.
So there's always that little back and forth. Right now

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that is tomorrow ninety yeah, versus the Warriors. Wednesday, We're
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give me the Kings over the MAVs. I'll say, give
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it was a Jason Kidd. Is he the head coach.
He's the head coach, and he came out saying, oh yeah,
people are talking about the trade. They're they're comparing it
to the Great Bambino, saying like it's so that's pretty cool, buddy.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
Yeah, widely considered the worst trade in sports history.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:16):
So just for that reason and that clip alone, I
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Speaker 6 (06:26):
I'll be going kings because when we make quotes about that,
that is just insane to me.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, that is insane to me. With you on the basketball,
do you want to.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
We want to rip the band aid off of UFC
three fourteen.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah, I mean you can't nothing you can hide from god. Uh.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
He got dominated that fight. Patty Pimblet looked incredible. He
looked poised for the moment. He looks like he's he's
in a great time situation for how that weight class
looks a little aged.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
But he did.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
It's like, if you look at all of Mike's fights
against all these top dranked opponents, Patty Pimblet has looked
the best again. It's Michael Chandler.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
It was tough, man. It was tough to watch because
that's like, that's our boy. Yeah, it's our guys, Like
Missouri boys us, and you're just you're nervous for him
for the fight. You see Brie, his wife, and his
son Hat walking in the arena with him, like you're
fired up, but your juices are flowing. It like reminds
me of when I was watching Cody back with all
of his big wrestling matches. You're like, you're just nervous.
You're like moving with the screen.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
You want to be in there with him. And there's
a level of guilt that I have too, because oh,
we're offically in the middle of spring shoo right now.
We just went to Oregon, We're going to Michigan tomorrow,
and like we had the small little time with the family,
but even on Saturday morning till like we should be
in Miami right now to be supporting the Chandlers, And
so you just don't want your boy to ever go
to war alone. And I just watching him walk out

(07:43):
like Patty Pittman when he walked out a tunnel, to
look loose, look ready to go, like he was just
having a good time being like his charismatic self that
people love him for and also hate him for. But
then as soon as he gets in the octagon, it's
like he's doing the ox prayer stare down.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
He is.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
He seems so locked into the moment when he has
had that big gap between fights, and it just yeah,
he just seemed like he was more prepared, seemed like
he had a better game plan, and he seemed like
he executed that game plan just a little bit better.
It sucks saying about your boy, but you gotta look
at the film and realize and Mike would be sitting
here right now saying the same thing. You know, Mike
doesn't shy away from the truth ever, and that just

(08:19):
it's unfortunate, but it is also the reality we're living
in right now. So you wonder, You just wonder, like,
what's what's next for Mike.

Speaker 8 (08:27):
The most heartbreaking part of the fight was when Mike,
I don't know which round it was, but he goes
back to his corner. They're like, Mike, you gotta start
going side to side, get out of the way right
and he's like, I can't. I can't find the distance.
I can't get close. And so then it goes over
to Patty's corner and Patty's coaches say, hey, he's going slow.

(08:48):
He's going slow, and you just hear Patty go, Yeah,
he's a bit old, isn't he. And then and then
it cuts away. I was like, oh my gosh, I
didn't even hear that.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, he looks good man, Like I've enjoyed watching Patty,
like when he came into the UFC, like all of
his fights. He's somebody that's like a superstar in the
media too, because he has that incredible accent. But I've
always enjoyed following him. But he was on that night, Bro,
he was in flows. I would have loved to see
him against anybody in the division that night, Yeah, just
because it feels like he was prime for that stage

(09:18):
and you're gonna get to see if his skill settle
carry over, because you would assume he's gonna get a
big opportunity in his next fight.

Speaker 6 (09:23):
Yeah, I just yeah, I didn't hear that sound. By Like,
when I'm watching this fight, I'm in that room, a
big couch, I'm kind of like I'm walking around. I'm
like I'm like looking, I'm trying to like move with him.
I'm like so invested in it until I'm just sitting
on the couch like chilled on our phone.

Speaker 8 (09:38):
I'm just like it's tough man, I wonder too. And
this is just full speculation on my end because seeing
Mike's knee in the fight in December and then to
fight in April, it all seems so fast to me
for somebody his age that I mean, I don't I
would never make excuse He would never make an excuse me.
But I am curious about like his body and if

(10:00):
he was one hundred percent just or he just really
couldn't find the distance, because we didn't see any of
the explosiveness that you usually see in the mic fights.

Speaker 6 (10:08):
Right, because when he's in the like the pre fight
press conferences and he's like, I'm gonna find that chin,
I'm gonna find it fast. I'm thinking to myself like, okay,
this is gonna be different than Olive Air fight. Yeah,
And he kind of came out similar to the OLIVERI
fight where he's like playing them more in a defensive stance, right,
and you know, he gets a couple of good takedowns.
He does the whole body throws him to the ground.
It's like, all right, and I know that boy can

(10:28):
wrestle too. It just didn't it just didn't seem like
he would find a flow in that fight, and obviously
we're not fighters, we don't necessarily know the ins and outs,
but he just seemed uncomfortable. Yeah, in the octagon.

Speaker 8 (10:39):
Lasting for me on Mike, where he does need his
credit in the way that he's able to defend on
the ground is so insane to me. Like I cannot
believe Patty didn't tap.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Him out in the last Oliver too in bad situations
and he just gets.

Speaker 8 (10:54):
Out on every single time. Oh, Mike's giving up his
back and it's like he's the only fighter that can
just roll over. Everybody else is gonna get tapped out,
but he can roll over, give up his back, and
he knows he's gonna be fine, which is is so silly.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
My question too, because again I like I have no clue,
Like I know some surface level stuff, but when he's
mounted and gives up his back, it's like, what else
can you do in that situation because the dude was
throwing starting to throw bombs on him. Yeah, and You're thing,
it's like the only thing you can do is just
roll to the other side, unless you can get some
rolls that kind of bounces him off.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
Man, it's just it's just tough.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
It was hard man. And it sucks too because the octagon, it's.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Like it's one on one and when that's happening, and
obviously you got all the external noise everybody commenting on
the fight and everything else. But when you lose in
the octagon, bro, it has to be such like a
lonely feeling, whatever your conversation is with yourself, you know
what I mean, Because it's like I'll shoot him a text, brother,
I'll love you and keep your fucking head up. You

(11:55):
kind of don't know, kind of don't know what they're saying.
You know, everybody's going to be texting him, but it's you,
you know, as a competitor, like when you just had
a bad showing, Like you don't care to hear about
any of the noise anything else.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
You're so disappointed in how it unfolded.

Speaker 6 (12:08):
Yeah yeah, and you're you're your own harshest critic too. Yeah,
Like you walk in and immediately I mean, I don't
know what his mental state was after right after the fight.
He got beat up pretty good, but like you're literally
replaying the fight over and over and over in your head,
like I could have done this different and that different,
and everyone's gonna have like, you know, the big broad
statements of you lost and you lost in this way,
but he's probably looking at every single detail, being like,

(12:30):
I know exactly where I went wrong. It's so easy
to fix those problems after in fact, Yeah, and it's
just just tough man, don't.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Write them off, Chill Stough.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
After all the the fights everything, Chill Sutton, you know,
there was a lot of back and forth of like
that is was that last time we see Michael Chandler.
Obviously Mike's the one that made that decision, but Chill
Sen's like they rushed him out of the octagon pretty fast.
I'm thinking it was a medical thing. But Jill's like,
if this is the last time we see Michael Chandler,
you would have hoped, you know, to give him the
credit he deserves I have. I have no idea if

(13:01):
that's that's his last fight.

Speaker 8 (13:04):
Shot a shot, that's his last fight.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Right from the business aspect, where would he go from here?

Speaker 6 (13:11):
I don't know that that's something that's Hunter tell Us
was like top five guys to where he's kind of
always set up or positioned well, like if he comes
out on top, he'll have like a better shot at
potentially going after the belt, but now that he's dropped
a few, and especially in the fashion that he did
against Patty, it's almost like where would he go that,

(13:32):
even at his age too, would even be worth it
for him?

Speaker 9 (13:35):
You know what I mean? How do you, like, for
Dana or Hunter, like sell him in a fight where
it's like yeah, but he keeps losing?

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Like right, Like even for Mike too, it's like, you know,
being realistic about where the category might be to where
you fight next at his age and what he's already accomplished,
like what is even worth going back in?

Speaker 9 (13:56):
Someone asked Dana and he was like, you know, like
no matter what what fight it is, who he's fighting, like,
he's gonna show out. Yeah, So like Danas obviously believes
in him, So like there is that good thing that
Mike's a showman and always puts on.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Right, but having him on the bus, knowing what he
puts into it and known the sacrifice now that his family,
his family's bigger than everything else, He's gonna put on
a show. But to put on that show, you have
to go in this space mentally for eight to twelve
weeks that he always does it's like even as Mike
sitting there again, I'm sure he'll be on the bus
at some point, but what even at that point, what
becomes worth it to put on that type of show

(14:32):
if you're not going to be getting a shot. That's
kind of close in that realm, because now he's gone
through enough fights to where I don't know where he'll
be ranked, but would he even get a shot against
an opponent that he feels like so worthy opponents?

Speaker 6 (14:42):
And just from like from Dana's statement of being like, hey,
every fight we put him in, it's an absolute show.
Like this fight. We looked at this this was not
a performance of like Mike Chinner. We were like, holy,
like you can see the victories like the Olive Air fight,
Like he lost those first four rounds and then came
back in that fifth round and he won that fifth round.
Hebro was too far gone by that point. But the
end when he's doing you know, landing him on his

(15:04):
back and he's like shows me like, yo, this is
why you watch a Michael Chandler fight. Objectively speaking, there
was nothing in that fight. We were like, this is
why you watch a Michael Chandler fight. And so something
just seemed like maybe it wasn't me, maybe it was
something mental, but like something was definitely off with Mike.

Speaker 8 (15:19):
Yeah, in the lightweight division, I think a fun fight
would be Phizzyev. They wouldn't be like main main events,
but it would be on a pay per view and
it would be in the main card. And Fizzyev is
still good, Like he's a fun, exciting fighter that has
quality losses and quality wins, which I think would be
a banger fight.

Speaker 6 (15:38):
Yeah, you know, I'm getting sick of Conor McGregor. I'm
getting sick. I'm interested in the Patty pen like you
just said, you just said you're running for like Ireland's
president whatever y'all have over there.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
I think he's got a gambling sponsor, Yeah he does.

Speaker 8 (15:53):
Yeah, Patty Paddy probably don't want to fight Connor.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
He's got big Patty's gonna go againstex again, to Pourier,
right they.

Speaker 8 (16:01):
He wants to fight to Pooria. But I don't know, man,
I think he I would love to see him fight
Dustin Poitier, even though the big thing is Dustin versus
Justin right now, But I think Dustin Poitier, like in
his last fight, I feel like Poorier would want it
because to to put the gloves down after beating the
guy that the UFC is trying to push to the

(16:24):
to the title would be the ultimate Dustin Store Dustin
Pourier ending to his story, Yeah, it's like he never
really got that unified belt, but he for sure isn't
gonna let some new guy step over him to go
get it.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
And he's on a how much wing streak eight eight
fight win streak last year in Miami dismantled him so
because like I know our bias on the bus. It's
like something could be off with Mike, but I don't
want it to take away from good of a performance.
Patty was incredible cause I am excited to see who
he might get paired up with next because he looked
good man, he looked in shape. He didn't you know,

(16:58):
he was doing interviews before the fight on the huge
Fatty Patty.

Speaker 6 (17:02):
And if he took his minimal day, like maybe we
see him quick j Justin. Yeah, yeah, his accident he's got.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (17:10):
I was gonna ask JP, was that Patty's like typical
weight class that he fights in, because he looked massive.

Speaker 8 (17:17):
He didn't look big, he looked good he looked crazy.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
Yeah, And how long he hadn't fight? What two years?

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Was it?

Speaker 6 (17:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (17:25):
Two years?

Speaker 1 (17:26):
And he didn't he didn't blow up the way he
has in the past, right, because what they're talking about
he's got Patty the Fatty. Yeah, and who knows if
in his mind he knows he's at this is a
moment where he could capitalize and maybe his focus is
just on the he'ty years old.

Speaker 6 (17:40):
The post press conference like he was like, everything's all
about timing, and Patty seems like he's finding the timing.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, because you.

Speaker 6 (17:46):
Watched that fighting, because people were saying Patty's like it's
like a gimmick. It's all like it's no one was
taking Patty seriously. But after that fight, you take him
seriously because it is. It was impressive. Yeah, impressive me.

Speaker 8 (17:56):
He's thirty years old, So you got to figure like
these next three years, three to four years is it's
when you have to go.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
You gotta go.

Speaker 8 (18:03):
You have to lock in.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Right Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:05):
Uh John Silva, dude, dude, I love that fucking guy.
He is incredible.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
When he's next to brufs Buffer and just starts barking
in the mind, barking in the mind to psycho and
then he's barking every at every chance he gets. And
then when he chokes Buddy out, Bryce Mitchell out and
dude's like eyes open, unconscious and he's standing over and
barking him.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Like you know that is old. Test was savage.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
Yeah, he choked him out so fast too, like he
he was him.

Speaker 8 (18:33):
It seemed like right even in the.

Speaker 6 (18:35):
First round, like he walked out there, he's talking ship,
He's moving away from all the punches like also taking
minimal damage and just fucked Buddy.

Speaker 8 (18:42):
Up four straight finishes and he.

Speaker 6 (18:44):
I guess this dude. Silva was like begging for this fight,
got the fight. It was basically, I'm gonna kill this
guy when we get in the ring.

Speaker 8 (18:51):
Looks so easy.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
The moment seemed way too big for Bryce Mitchell, like
Bryce felt the pressure that Silva was like coming in relaxed, like.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
The pressure He's probably aided for himself with all.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah, he had a whole and stuff said some stupid ship.
You saw you saw Dave Dave Portnoy out there, ye.

Speaker 6 (19:09):
All just screaming at him.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
A Nazi that is the corner looks back at.

Speaker 8 (19:17):
You're a Nazi.

Speaker 6 (19:19):
Yeah, but bry Yeah. Bryce. Uh he made his bed
and Silva put him to sleep in it.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Hey, uh, JP is Silva? I was seeing too. It's
like Bryce Mitchell was ranked like eleventh or something like that.
Like it's Silva not ranked.

Speaker 8 (19:32):
Yeah, I don't think he is ranked. That was his
first time fighting another ranked fighter or fighting a ranked fighter.
But he's gonna be ranked now because it's three fights
before this he won them all by knockout. Now he
gets this submission.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Dude, he looked good man, he looks amazing, insanely confident, relaxed,
smiling flow.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
It's gonna beat him.

Speaker 6 (19:51):
Yeah, he was and just having a good time. He
was practicing out there on Bryce.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Mitchell on the on FanDuel I had Silva for a
k over t k O in every round because the
odds were awesome. Yeah, and every time he got closest submitting,
I'm like, no, no, dude, I had the I had
Silva in every round to win and the smarter. Yeah
I did in a way, So I got him plus
five hundred in the second round.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Taylor, So it was me, Taylor and Clay.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
We were texting the group chet kind of how some
of these fights would go talking about what bets were
gonna put in shoot fandel and after the first round,
it was like Silva to win in round one, Silva
to win in round two.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
All the way through.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
And it was like plus three hundred, five hundred, seven hundred,
and Silva has the performance that he does in the
first round. Taylor's in the group chat thinking if he
just wins the first round like five points.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
Yeah, that's what I thought.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
It was odds.

Speaker 6 (20:42):
I'm in the group chat like, hey, you guys thought
he won that right like he thought? And then Will
will bring my attention that, hey, it's to win, like
it's over in that round because I thought I was
I hit ale plus three hundred right there. I'm like
the app to see my settled bets.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Like I got a favorite to win by point in
the first round plus three hundred.

Speaker 6 (21:01):
Wouldn't that be nuts?

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (21:03):
But he when he won in the second I was
kind of hoping Tom go to the first me.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Look at this dude just barking over him, composing, and
it was white nerds.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
What are they called fight nerds?

Speaker 3 (21:13):
What's that the glasses after the glasses?

Speaker 6 (21:15):
Yeah, there's a group of them that all wear the
glasses with the little thing and the on the in
the middle. But yeah, dude, he was incredible. And then
Vulcan Lopez.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
I didn't even I'll be honest, you did watch the
real quick they.

Speaker 8 (21:30):
Yeah, looked he looked insane and bull came over from
Bellatore or whatever.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
It was, and the moment was way too big. Lights
turned on and he would got just the size difference.
And seeing Rodriguez throw those kicks, it's like, because Taylor
before the fight, he's like, hey, I'm sprinkling someone on
pit Bull. And then when they both started, I haven't
seen either of them fight, but when they both started
and Rodriguez is throwing those kicks, I'm like, Taylor took
this little kid.

Speaker 6 (21:53):
Yeah, clays in there like I like pit bulls punches
ball ball, but yeah, you hear he can kick, and
I'm thinking.

Speaker 8 (21:58):
I'll just do his pit bull is way too no idea.

Speaker 6 (22:00):
What the guy's even looked like, here comes in this dude.
He looked like he was my height. Yeah, he is
insanely tall. He's he's just powling over this cat. And
he was fluid. Man, He's like a rubber band out there.
The way he was kicking. He was smooth, but did
he just put that kid apart? But the main event
Vulcan and Lopez. And we were talking last week about hey,

(22:21):
because we've seen Lopez at the Sphere and he was nice.
He was like kind of whoever he fought before he
crushed him. And then this fight's like Vulk's getting old Lopez.
He might be the uppercomer guy. This is a championship.
Whoever wins this gets the belt. Vulk looked nasty. He
looked like the age was nothing to him.

Speaker 8 (22:39):
Like nothing, dude. I think it was so cool because
Diego did get better as the fight went on a
little bit. But it just shows the difference in that
experience makes for these guys, because Diego just kind of
flies around out there, throws so fast, kind of throws wild,
throws these weird like like paw punches, and you can

(22:59):
see Vulcan most other fighters, Diego probably beats, but Vulk
just understands the moment and knows how to fight. And
it was just man, it made me so happy because
Volk's one of my favorite fighters and to see him
just do his thing. He almost got rattled a few times, but.

Speaker 6 (23:14):
He did get riddled a couple of times. I mean
he was stepping backwards when he got banked that one
time it went at the ground. But like those first
what two and a half three rounds, like Vulk was
owning Lopez and throwing shots that like shot aut Lopez's chin. Yeah,
he was taking some crazy shots and would not go
down because I did the same thing Vulk to win
in round one two, three for five and didn't do
the decision. And after that first round and they're like, oh, yeah,

(23:37):
this is another solid fucking bet. Yeah, and sure enough, dude,
he just kept staying there and then he just he
started to get vocal a little bit. Like if that
was seven rounds, right, I mean, Lopez probably comes out
and wins that thing before he starts in the third. Yeah,
he starts that win in the first, Like, Lopez probably
wins because he's just taking shots in the face and

(23:58):
eating them and moving forward.

Speaker 8 (24:00):
It was crazy at the end though, and he's like
telling Volk to stand in the middle of swingling. Why
would he ever do that?

Speaker 6 (24:07):
Are you thinking about, well, Max Holmer, Yeah, Halloway, yea,
I'm thinking as the golfer. But Max Holloway, they stand
there in the middle and go to but if I'm Vulcan,
I'm like funk that.

Speaker 8 (24:20):
He was like, he like pointed, and then he just
kind of kept going.

Speaker 6 (24:24):
Toy with And I loved Volk's postgame press conference like
adversity is a gift a fucking bar man.

Speaker 8 (24:32):
Yeah, him and as Anya give like the best post
fight press conference.

Speaker 6 (24:37):
The Australian accent. He says that you're just kind of
like it just means a little bit more with that accent,
means a little bit more.

Speaker 8 (24:43):
Great card, I know.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
Yeah, I was trying to hit the reverse psychology with
that Lopez. That Lopez tweet saying like always got a
cement tionin hoping the next round he get banked. Yeah, man,
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let's get back to this episode. Let's move it forward,
Let's talk. Let's get Jack me Feers on the mic.
We got to talk about some college football.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Do we want to by the time we go through
the weekend, do we want to touch on the Masters?

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:38):
I Meancelroy. It was fun to watch, Like know one
that I have watched golf like one day of the year,
one day of the year, and it's always the Championship
of the Masters, and known the storyline is going into
It's like you got him and Bryce and paired up.
You got some guys who's gonna finish in the top ten.
Shout out a Homa, Shout out Homa.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Just being in the being in the run, the way
he's in the mix. Yeah, being in the mix.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
But it's like Rory, all this stuff about him choking
and again that last round was a bunt. Was a
lot of roller coasters, even that last putt in the
last hole.

Speaker 9 (26:09):
I mean the first hole yesterday, Rory doubles Bryson Parrs.
Now they're even.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, just like that, out of the gate, out of
the gate and then goes to minus ten.

Speaker 9 (26:19):
Quick, Oh yeah, I walked away from the TV for
one second. They're on whole four and it's like four
different things have changed. Roy's back to like twelve or
eleven under Brison's at nine and then you're like, oh, okay,
we're in one.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, and then coming out of the weeds, justin Justin Rose,
howd he start off to day? What was he at
minus five or six?

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (26:39):
He was like six back and we were talked about
last week, but there's only been four people to ever
win the Masters. After leading the first day and when
he started coming back, I was like, no, shit, like
here we go. I kind of forgot about him. But
Rory showed a lot of composure that I don't think
he's gotten the better side of in recent matches and

(27:03):
like right years and for him to battle the adversity, know,
the pairing with Bryson is just like added tension. The
fans love Bryson, so like if it comes down the stretch,
what side are they gonna pull for the crowd, Like,
are they gonna be like Bryson's a showman, like he's balling,
let's go, or are they gonna side with Rory who's
going for the career Grand Slam felt like he had

(27:26):
a lot of the crowd bro they were hyper once
once Bryson started falling off, everyone was like, Okay, we
understand the assignment. Yeah, we gotta get Rory to this finish.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Because even again, he had moments where I forget what
hall was, where he goes in the he goes in
the bunker, and again, I want to say I had
a tweet like he should be going full hypy Gilmore
because you could tell he was very piss at himself
that he had that shot. But it's like all the
external noise of choking that weighs in on those high
pressure moments for him to win that story this time.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
And two it's like justin Rose, he finished like what
was the two holes before Rory got done and hit
a massive putt to sit at minus ten eleven, and
it was Rory was ahead there and it was just
like his match to kind of fuck up or to lose,
and he got down to where he ends up missing
that two putting at the end and going into that
playoff to where Justin kind of has all the momentum

(28:16):
and they come out on top. And witness that moment
when he does hit it. He starts crying out walking
everybody cheering for him.

Speaker 9 (28:22):
Embrace the family you're talking about, like standing up watching
the fights like in your living room. The nerves I
felt for Rory hitting the first putt on eighteen to
potentially win outright was like my hands were shaking, dude,
how do you stand? First off? How do you pipe
one down the fairway? Hit it into the bunker and

(28:43):
they didn't have to walk to the bunker, going all right,
I know I can hit the shot. There's plenty of room.
I have a great lie. But then for the ball
to kind of check up a little bit, like it
did not get as close to the hole as you
would like it to to lease still as like the
scariest six foot put of all time, or however long
it was. I know, dude, I would throw up.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
The nerves though is but my legs would be shaky.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
Because I popped it. I popped it on when he
was walking to the bunker after that bunker shot, and
then I'm realizing how close of a match this is,
and when he pops it up, I'm thinking about how
would I how do I feel right now in my
living room watching this? How I can't imagine how he feels.
And when he misses, and that pans over to Rose
who's just on the green, and he just goes up

(29:32):
to his cadd He goes like kind of like, all right,
let's fucking do this, taps it in and they go.
I'm getting goosebumps right now because I'm sitting there like.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
You guys know what might like stance on golf.

Speaker 6 (29:41):
I'm not like a huge golf guy, the outfits, the
all that. This moment was massive, watching them boasted on
the te box at eighteen, being like, whoever wins this
hole wins the Masters gets this jacket. I'm usually I'm
a green jacket, gold jackt who gives a shit type
of guy, But in this moment, I'm thinking, we got
to get this green fucking jacket. Go on the FanDuel
of sports, what gap over or for you?

Speaker 1 (30:03):
I took justin Rose and so it's tough weekend, but
hey today I didn't.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Hit on one bet prevailed.

Speaker 6 (30:09):
To Will's to Will's bet, Like just that thought Processes.
I had the same thing over my head, like, Okay,
Rory just missed this putt to win the Masters, and
I'm seeing all these things about him, like kind of
choking a little bit. Maybe it is justin Rose's time.
But then I just saw the odds. I saw the
odds minus one forty. I was like, let me just
go with Rory. I know the name more than I
know Roses, So I'm just gonna go with Rory. I

(30:30):
end up working out.

Speaker 9 (30:31):
Rose is a legend. He's been around forever.

Speaker 6 (30:33):
Yeah, but it sucks that he's always the bride's made of,
never the bride for sure.

Speaker 9 (30:37):
Like I just pulled it up for that point exactly.
He did take home two point three million dollars coming second.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
But yeah, but hey, do you see uh, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (30:47):
That's a good question, Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
People who go to the Masters, like Caitlyn Clark was
talking about. She was doing an interview saying how that's
the coolest event because of how unique it is. It's
just how many people are sitting around every hole, especially
that last shot in the moment, because nobody can f
bones Like everybody's just in the pressment. It's quiet you
see the crowdy roughed after or they get upset when
the you know, their guy misses a shot. It has

(31:09):
to be so sick. Yeah, and the pressure that these
guys got it.

Speaker 6 (31:13):
We gotta go one one day next year, gotta go.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yeah, that would be wild.

Speaker 9 (31:17):
Can document anything, which to your point is awesome, but
for our sake would be.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
Yeah, for the business not great, but I do think
that makes it.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
That would be that much more uh just special, like
as a crew, if we go, or if when our
kids get old enough you take him. You see, like
these parents who take their kids, and just the lure
of golf in those high stakes moment, it's like there
can be I think I'm confident to say that. I
don't think there's a high pressure moment that would match
the Masters, like on the last hole, like that that

(31:45):
Rory and those guys are feeling on the last hole.
Any moment in any sport.

Speaker 8 (31:49):
Let me.

Speaker 9 (31:50):
It's you VERSU really is for four days.

Speaker 6 (31:53):
Fourth quarter, two seconds of the clock, thirty five yard line,
you gotta kick a field goal to win the super Bowl,
maybe for the kicker, Like I mean, that's gotta be
that's right, Like yeah, yeah, they're always while you're putting.

Speaker 9 (32:07):
You imagine, but there's part of me.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Thinks the silence with that many people around would almost be.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
A little bit more.

Speaker 9 (32:15):
You start, Yeah, yeah, I'll bet you hear your heartbeat
in that moment.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Yeah for the kicker.

Speaker 6 (32:19):
And also, hey, like if you have a massive bet
on right and you got Rose and you took him
in the before the even started and he could win
it and you're in that crowd, and exactly why not
just hit up?

Speaker 1 (32:33):
And also the field goals. The field goals massive, like
finding the line in that little ass.

Speaker 9 (32:38):
Hole, bro, it's crazy. I did hit a crazy bet,
picked Rory to win on before they started the tournament,
and then we picked you get in on it with
the top fives, Scotty to finish top five, Rory to
finish top five, Bryson to finish top five, and then
Love Big Auburg to finish top ten. Patrick Reid hits

(33:01):
a hole in one on sixteen to bump Rice into
six and Love bigs in top five, and I'm like,
no fucking way this is gonna happen. Loving triples eighteen
to fall just enough to bump Rice and back up
to five and him to finish in the top ten.
So yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
Don let's right there.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
One that skipped in the hole. Yeah, one that was
nuts and he didn't even know it went in the hole.
It like bounced and went straight into the cup.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
No ship, Yeah dude, and he's like sitting there.

Speaker 11 (33:32):
Auberg cost some five hundred and sixty thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
What the triple that he had.

Speaker 11 (33:37):
On eighteen Auburg it cost some five hundred grand.

Speaker 9 (33:41):
Hey, think about Rory too, not only a green jacket,
but there's a nice pay Dave.

Speaker 6 (33:46):
Think about the endorsements they're gonna come as well.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
That's true too, like video though the kicker thing, like
there's not those financials in play too. I don't even
know if they're thinking about it.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
They might be, but incentives would be like the closest.

Speaker 6 (33:57):
Yeah, would you be thinking if you did you ever
incentives at all when you played?

Speaker 3 (34:01):
No?

Speaker 6 (34:02):
Hell?

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (34:02):
And so guy, yeah guys never, I mean, I guess
guys think about it, like week seventeen or week eighteen
when there were seventeen games, they're like, hey, I need
three catches. You see Gronk he like needed one more
in a couple of yards, right, And Brady kind of
give him a little flat route. But I think when
it comes to those moments in sports that you're no
one's thinking about money.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Not the first.

Speaker 9 (34:21):
If you're in twentieth place, you're.

Speaker 6 (34:23):
Thinking about eleven exactly when you have nothing to do,
You're like, hey, maybe if I can get to eighteen
in the.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Middle, like after you missed a second, when you're like, fuck,
I'm losing money, yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know you're
kind of out of it.

Speaker 9 (34:34):
Well yeah, off, you can be like a Soul. You
can hold a sole position in the leaderboard, so you
could be like Soul seventh, But if you drop a Shoup,
you're tied for eighth with like ten people, and then
the money split is.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
Just so the splits disgusting, I bet, But shout out Rory.

Speaker 8 (34:53):
Rory's dinner is about to be so mid next year.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Though, bro.

Speaker 6 (34:59):
Roy to Arizona and get them on Zips. If you
can just have those wings man, by the way, Zips
DM me on Instagram. I appreciate you shouting out Zips.
Blah blah blah. He's setting all there. He Zips is
setting us all like shirts and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
We need a gift card man, for real.

Speaker 6 (35:17):
What's that?

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Zip? Offs?

Speaker 6 (35:19):
Nice? I see you with that. I had one more thing,
oh dude, I so for whatever reason, I put that
bed in and then all of a sudden, my algorithm
goes to golf all the rest of yesterday and learning
about the Masters and how they operate, how they don't
have you know, like the Mercedes Benz fifteenth hole or
all this. They keep everything so pure. They're essentially walking

(35:40):
away from hundreds of millions of dollars. Like even with
like the product, they make sure everything goes into the
production of it. No phones. The food's like a dollar
sixty five for a turkey sandwich, Like, yeah, that shit
is awesome. That is so cool. How they keep like
the purity of golf in that and.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Everyone who goes it's like it still exceeds their high expectations.

Speaker 6 (35:58):
Right.

Speaker 7 (35:59):
Well, they make like what is it, like in a
million dollars every hour in the pro shop, So that's
how they make all their money back because that's the
only spot you can get Master's gears in that pro
shop that's.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Not on the way.

Speaker 7 (36:11):
So they make all the that's.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
Cool that.

Speaker 9 (36:15):
Thousands of dollars worth and then go resell it yeah.

Speaker 6 (36:18):
Yeah, I saw the tickets themselves. And when you buy
the tickets like four and focks five hundred bucks for
a couple of day past Yeah, reselling is like ten
thousand dollars no.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Shit, which is just crazy. Yeah, we're going.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
I got to go to the women's it's like the
Super Bowl tickets.

Speaker 10 (36:34):
Yeah, yeah, I got never did we never did that
to the women's hamitter last year. And the store opens
during the women's hamitter for the Masters. So we're walking
in break of dawn, like six thirty and there are
hundreds of people sprinting past us with gardening nomes, like
Master's branded gardening nomes so that they can resell it online.

(36:57):
And we get into the store and the line was
already three hours long. And like the Master's tournament hasn't
even started. It's not even the practice rounds the Women's Amateur.
You have a three hour line. It's nuts.

Speaker 6 (37:11):
That is crazy.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
That is nuts.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Another big story of the weekend college football Nico, Yeah,
which one do you want to hit? Let's just hit
him after, get him after, and then just plug him in.

Speaker 6 (37:27):
Let's do that.

Speaker 11 (37:28):
Nobody is bigger than the team.

Speaker 6 (37:30):
Nobody is bigger than the team.

Speaker 11 (37:33):
Nobody sitting around football literally shout out josh Iipol Nico
Leila is a absolute coward. He's ruining the game. I
hate n I l now, but I understand that it's
a business. But to have the season you did, and
to get your dick kicked in against Ohio State in
the playoffs, and then to ask for four million dollars

(37:55):
a year and not to be showing up to spring practices,
I'm so glad that that Tennessee handled this. And to
not even address it or not even to acknowledge it,
and to just dismiss Nico from the team, it says
a lot. It was awesome to see like the support
across Twitter throughout the nation, everyone kind of taking josh
Ipels back because we're just saying this Wild West era

(38:16):
of like these kids who want more money and they
want more everything, but they're not putting it on paper
and they're not winning the games you need them to.
I couldn't be happier. We are in a pickle. We
have two quarterbacks on our roster right now, Jake Murklinger
and what's it George McIntyre, who are both very inexperienced quarterbacks,

(38:37):
But we also have a guy coming in, which doesn't
help us this year, but twenty twenty six, Faison Brandon,
who's the number one prospect in all of college football
who's committed to Tennessee. That's like a positive. But what
Tennessee football needs to do is pick up someone in
the transfer portal who's an experienced quarterback who can come
in and make these other two kids McIntyre and merck

(38:58):
Linger like fight for it and also learn behind them.
And then we also have this kid coming in twenty
twenty six, so I'm hoping we get a veteran, experienced
guy in the portal. Obviously, we don't want him coming
in the SEC because you can't. You'll have to sit
a year if you transfer in your conference. But I'm
so happy the way that Tancy handled the situation. It

(39:19):
was it was chaotic. I was in Knox this weekend
for a wedding, so like fuck I was. It was
even closer to home. But everyone seems like they're on it.
I mean, even Tony Vaitelo had an interview after one
of their games yesterday they played a little Miss and
he was saying, whether it's football or baseball or basketball,
don't come to this university asking for handouts because that's
not what we're about. And so like just across the board,

(39:42):
everyone has the support of Hypel, and I bet Nicole
will probably go to the West Coast because that's where
he's from. He's from California. But man if fired me
up too hearing about coach landing where we just were.
He apparently the rumors were spreading that. He warned Hypel
that they Nico is reaching out to a bunch of
people and trying to get offers and feel the waters.

(40:04):
So to hear that there's some coaches out there who
still believe in the game, it was a good feeling.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
I thought it was.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Well, dude, you see Josh Paid's clip. He's doing a
show and he was talking like there's Tennessee guys like
Nico being one of them who are leveraging, trying to leverage. Hey,
they're playing extra games in the playoffs, so they want
more money because the structure that they currently have is
like twelve you might play a conference title, but then
going into the playoffs, there were players coming in trying
to leverage that to say they should be getting paid
more per game.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Yeah, that's why we didn't go, hey.

Speaker 6 (40:37):
Shout out Tennessee.

Speaker 11 (40:38):
I'm at a part up. It feels going to be
a fan just for Highpool to just stand on business
and and say this is not about fineancers. It obviously
is it will always be an aspect of the game
now that we're in this Nile era. But for him
to just completely shut down our Nico was the highest
paid Inile athlete ever as of right now.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
They give him eight million.

Speaker 11 (40:58):
Dollars for four years. They're giving him two point four
million dollars a year, and he wants four million dollars.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Now.

Speaker 11 (41:04):
I just don't think it's a good look too for
your future, for the future of your college career, going
into the pros. It just shows that you're difficult to
work with and obviously it's more about yourself than it
is the team. I don't know what do y'all think.
If you're playing in there and y'all starting quarterback wants that,
are you pissed at him or do you kind of
understand it because that you know, you want to get

(41:25):
as much money as you can because now we're in
this weird era. But I mean, if I'm a player,
especially if I'm an old Ligneman and my guy all
of a sudden bounces out, doesn't tell anyone, doesn't show
the spring practices the day before the Orange and White game.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (41:39):
It just seems like coward esque.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah, I'd be tied about it as a teammate. As
a player, I think it's it's so hard because it's
such a wild West. Like people, it's like, you don't
want to fault Nico. You don't want to fault Like
it's like what the NCAA is created because there are
no boundaries and if we're in a capitalist world, we're
in a capitalist society.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
You want everybody to.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Earn what they want to earn, like while they had
these windows about opportunity. But I think for me it
sucks to see because the mentality and commitment that this game,
that the game breeds into life like in all of
it is like getting lost because you're so consumed by
what's my value? What can my value be in the market.
I want everybody to get paid. I want the player,

(42:19):
like if I'm a player, to me, it's like, yes,
I want to get paid. And there's going to be
a range, right, there might not be an exact dollar
amount But if you're with the school and they're hitting
your range, whether or not you're flirting with other schools
or other opportunities. But after that, it's like you listen
to John Grune's speech the whole about the team, guys
are missing on thinking about and pouring into the team.

(42:40):
But if I'm a teammate and I know my quarterback
is getting two and a half million dollars a shitload
of money, it's like, hey, can you operate? Are you
out of school with all the resources necessary to make
it to the big leagues? Because every kid their dream
is to play professional football, and we're now in a
world where you can now get paid in college. But
if it's all about you want to get to the
next level, you're at a schools where you have all

(43:01):
the resources. You have a team around you, you have the
coaching staff, you have everything you need to be successful
a life and to set you up for the next level. Like,
if they're hitting your range of money, it's like, what
are we bitching about? And if you're so worried about
making the four million, it is like, if I'm a teammate,
I'm me in the locker room or whatever I'm thinking
to myself or whatever group of leadership that you're around.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
You're sitting there with the coach.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
And be like, yeah, get them out of here, because
you want guys who are committed to the fucking team.
You're getting paid. Well, I know everybody wants their market value.
I know everybody wants to leverage and do all the
things they can to optimize their moment of time because
they might get not get paid any more money. But bro,
you're already getting paid. These college athletes, you're getting paid,
You're getting fairly compensated. It's like at that point, man,

(43:43):
you need the guys in the locker room, and you
need the culture that is all about winning a championship,
because if you win a championship, it's all going to
trickle down to you and all your teammates.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Winning. Winning sells everything.

Speaker 6 (43:54):
You see it.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
In the NFL, A team wins a Super.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Bowl and guys on that roster would be getting paid
more money because they think they have some value or
some leadership or some culture aspect that they're going to
bring into their locker room. It's gonna be the same
thing in college football. It's like when you're pouring into
the team, into the team, you sign your an il deal,
You're like, all right, I'm committed to this university. Pay
me four years, eight million dollars. Yeah, there's gonna be
new kids that come in that that break that barrier.

(44:17):
That you can't sit there and look around and check
other people's pockets because then it's just gonna piss you
off and you're chasing it for the wrong reasons. At
that point, the mentality that you have playing college football, Man,
you get paid well.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Now, I hate it. I hate it.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
It bothers me a lot because again, it's like, I
hate faulting the kid because in my brain, he's not
mature enough to know all the ins and outs of it.
These agents, the people, his counsel, he has bad counsel.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
These guys who are money hungry.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
It's like, hey, you should be getting paid more now
that you're in the playoffs, and you talk that into
the player, and then all of a sudden he might
not be. He's not the most mature kid yet, so
he doesn't know. He's gonna lean on people who he trusts.

Speaker 6 (44:53):
You don't blame Nico in the situation, you believe you.
You blame the people around him that have influence in
his life because you neither has to be a level
of work ethic, that has to be a level of
buy in any level, high school, college or NFL. All
I agree with everything you just said, this from a
Tennessee standpoint, like is your team better or worse now?
You're probably not as good as you were forty eight
hours ago, seventy two hours ago when he was on

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the team, But the culture of your team and the
long term is going to be better off because of it.
Nico has made a decision, a short term decision for
more money than the long term is going to affect
him when he goes to the NFL. Guys are not
gonna belie him a much. Hey, if there's another dollar,
if there's another shiny toy just across the fence, you're
gonna be a type of guy to go get that.
If I'm an offensive lineman and that's my quarterback, I'm heated.

(45:36):
I'm pissed because at the end of the day, you
like to believe we're not in college football and this
is a totally different world than you and I were in.
But you like to believe that everybody in that locker
room who's wearing Orange is all striving to win a
national championship, win the SEC championship, and make a big
run in the playoffs. So when a guy goes, I
want one point six million dollars more. When you put
up twenty six hundred yards in the past year, nineteen touchdowns,

(45:58):
five interceptions, Like you're not sorry, well says five right here, but.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
You're you're not.

Speaker 6 (46:04):
You're not that guy Like you're like, I get it.
You can make more money. Everyone's going more money. Listen,
when I signed my second contract, I was the highest
paid offensive linement in NFL history. Two years later I
was barely breaking the top ten. And you could sit
there and be like, oh damn, I want more money. No,
it's like you have to be grateful for what you
get in the moment. You are because every single time
somebody gets paid the most, I promise you maybe a

(46:25):
week later, a daily you see this with the off season.
This year Max Cross the highest paid non quarterback in history.
Like a week and a half later, he's like fifth.
Like that is the way the game goes. It's about timing.
But you legacy seems like it doesn't mean as much
these guys anymore, And you want to go. You want
to buy and from these from the players and the
culture and the team, So shout out Hypel. I think
that's a huge long term win. It might be, it

(46:47):
might affect you guys this year.

Speaker 11 (46:48):
I mean, well, I'm I'm I was nervous with or
without an ECO because we lost four of our five
starting O linemen, our three best receivers, and Dylan Samson
SEC Player of the Year. So we have a lot
of whole to fill on our offense. So I'm wondering
if I put myself in Nico's shoes, if they're part
of him. Was like, I have lost a lot of
talent on this team, so I'm going to ask for

(47:10):
more money because you know, it's the best situation for
me financially, because we might not be as good this
coming year. So maybe he's thinking just for the future,
but I don't know. It definitely falls on his camp,
his father, who's a scumbag. All of a sudden, he's
nowhere to be found on Twitter anymore, and he was
talking all this shit his agents. I part of me

(47:32):
feels kind of bad for Nico. I don't know whose
ultimate decision it was. I mean, I'm not an Eco
fan anymore, he very well could go down as one
of the most hated balls now in history.

Speaker 6 (47:41):
Then I feel.

Speaker 11 (47:42):
Bad for that kid because if it was a majority
decision based on his camp and not him, obviously he
has a final say. But yeah, it's just you just
want kids to play.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Just think it too.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
It's like two million dollars, you're looking at your realistic
with the body of work you just had to where
if you're going to go in the market and try
to command more money.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
But it's like, if I'm the player and your body of.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Work doesn't show that you're satisfied with that body of
work at the end of the day, it's like, where's
your mental at on, like wanting to pour into the
excellence on the field and training and everything to get better.
Because when you look at your bank account and you're
making two million dollars, it's like you have everything you
fucking need. It's like, bro, we were in college and
we were getting more than the people before us. I'm

(48:25):
getting like an eight hundred and fifty dollars scholarship check
and I'm pocketing some at the end of every month.
To where you feel comfortable, to where it's safety you're
just all about ball and trying to get better at
your craft. I couldn't imagine making the money that these
kids are making now. And again, I understand that there's
business to me to be made and money to be
capitalized on. But if you're a good player, and you

(48:46):
can be a player that plays at the next level,
and you're in a good spot, and you're at a
good college, and you have everything around you that you
need to be successful, all the resources important to your craft, Like,
you're not at a school where it's a stepping stone.
You're not at a D one double A or a
lower tier D one school where it's like, hey, you
might have you might have pushed the boundaries and got
as much as you can out of that. Now you're
set up to go to a bigger school to play
on a bigger stage. Like, you're not in that situation.

(49:08):
You're in a situation where you're very well compensated to
be as good of a quarterback as you can be.
And whether or not you've lost town, it's like, man,
make the guys around you better. How can you expand
your leadership? How can you expand your command of the offense,
your communication? You're throwing all that different stuff. It just
it blows my mind. Man, I hate to see it.
Good to continue to be that way.

Speaker 6 (49:27):
Matt Rule, I think, had a really good comment on
this whole thing. He talked about you can't fault the
guy for leaving if the choice, if the reason why
he's leaving is for the right reasons, Like he's at Temple,
he chose to lead Temple, to go to Baylor, he
chose lee Baylor to go to Carolina, making these decisions
to take the next progression in his career. Then, but
you look at Nico and he's at you know, a

(49:49):
top program in all of college football, with all the
resources you could possibly have around him, with you know,
guys like Peyton Mannihoor in that building consistently, with the
best coaches, with the best train coaches, like you have
every everything you need. The next step should be the NFL.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
As long as your fair range is getting hit, which.

Speaker 6 (50:05):
Your fair range, and it's like just hit the middle.
And I know it sounds it kind of sounds selfish
of us to be like, you don't need all this money,
because yeah, he could essentially get hurt and never play
another snap in his entire life. That's the kind of
game you you live with here, But like two and
a half million dollars in college for me just seems
insane because you said eight fifty I was making twelve

(50:27):
fifty bags, but like, I mean, twelve hundred and fifty dollars,
twelve hundred and fifty dollars felt like every dollar you
possibly needed in college. You had a fifty cc scooter,
you ripped it, you spent two hundred dollars at the
bar that weekend. Yeah, and then you're like, holy shit,
I gotta make this work for the entire month. But
everybody's on that same plane. I cannot imagine. Could you
imagine going to Botpolini and being like I need more? No,

(50:49):
I can't if I walked to Brady Brady Hok and
Rich Rodriguez after you know, my freshman year of starting
and being like, listen, I want X, Y and Z.
I don't have the fucking stones for that.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (51:02):
I had a hard time in a contract negotiations. The
agents do the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Yeah, because the GM I'm just the one that's winning
this thing.

Speaker 6 (51:10):
Yeah, because they're taking like twenty percent.

Speaker 12 (51:13):
Yeah, it's just nutsman, And it's it sucks, man, it's
not this shit on a school like UCLA, but that
is like the top target that they're saying Nico may
Land at.

Speaker 10 (51:24):
But you do not know what you got till it's gone.
With like leaving Tennessee to go to UCLA and getting
to experience that home crowd in Knoxville against Alabama, like
that is not everywhere.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
You don't just have these sellout crowds and you're playing
against the best.

Speaker 10 (51:41):
You're playing against the best.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
UCLA stadiums are.

Speaker 10 (51:45):
Half the time, you know, half empty.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Uh, there's the other team.

Speaker 10 (51:50):
Yeah, and they're playing against these great schools in the
Big ten that they're kind of getting trounced most of
the time. And it's like, was that worth an extra
because they'll probably you know, whatever he is getting at
Tennessee or it's not a little bit more. It's like
is that worth it to know.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Because you'll you'll be hearing people, you know, schools make
billion or like all this money and coaches leave and
to me, like it's like ballplayers who talk about that,
I feel like they tasted something. They tasted a bitter
part of the business to whether they just want the
athlete to maximize as much as they can. It's like, oh,
coaches get to leave, coaches get to do this. It's
like getting to listen to even coach Landing like some
of these coaches, it's like the grind that they get

(52:27):
to to where they get positioned that way. But even
when they're at a spot, everybody's so committed to the
excellence there until you get to the offseason or until
something happens. It feels like in Nico's world things were
even unfolding in the middle of the season, which again
that goes to the structure in the leadership of the
NCAA because there are no guidelines right now. But it's
like that mentality is not going to it's not a

(52:47):
successful approach to have, like it's sustainable everything.

Speaker 6 (52:51):
Yeah, that's gonna that. I'll come back to bite them
in the ass. He might get paid, he might go
to UCLA, Like I hope you like, no disrespect to
the UCLA Bruins, but like that's not a program that
comes close to Tennessee, not even.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Close beat us last year too, forgot at the moment,
we'll get there, we'll get we'll get our lick back
this year.

Speaker 9 (53:12):
You see this news with Nico, and then you like
starts on what like Thursday or Friday, and for them
to act like we talked about, act quickly and making
their decision Hype and Tennessee. But then the next day,
how many quarterbacks around the country hit the transfer portal.
It's like all the ones that are like, oh, maybe
I'll go out there and maybe play at Tennessee. Like
Florida State's quarterbacks in the portal right now. So it'll

(53:35):
be interesting what happens throughout this week and how fast.

Speaker 6 (53:40):
For sure, long term, no doubt about it.

Speaker 9 (53:44):
You might go get like a freshman with four years
of eligibility who's a stud, and then like what Jack
was saying is like get through this year and then
next year you have two quarterbacks that are dueling it
out that are like good quarterbacks. But it'll be interesting.
I wonder how fast the decision will be made on
either side, Nico, Tennessee, whatever it is.

Speaker 6 (54:04):
I think the sixteenth, yeah, two days. Yeah, that's gonna
be a crazy nine days.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Portal opens up just so random random random. Yeah, man,
you got the winter window, which is crazy. It's like
that's right before the playoffs even start.

Speaker 6 (54:26):
That should be it should be after the playoffs. You
should be after the playoffs. And yeah they should have
I mean college football scheduling in general, like it should
end January first, like play your championship weekend and then
play the playoffs the next week, have your bye week
and then go and then Jade one.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
You just gotta start structuring it at like such a
professional level.

Speaker 6 (54:47):
Yeah, you kind of have to, because it is kind
of just a bunch of puzzle pieces that don't fit
together right now. You need you need a little bit
more balance. And then what is the NCAA anymore? What
because we we couldn't have these guys?

Speaker 3 (55:00):
You get pay job.

Speaker 6 (55:00):
Break down too, Yeah, pays a stud stud Other news
college football? Was it Kiren Lacy? Unfortunately it sounds like
guy from a gunshot, self inflicted wound.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
The guy.

Speaker 6 (55:17):
This kid had a lot of advert a lot of
things happening he I think he was possibly involved in
a hit and run, a lot of things coming down
his pipe. We I don't know the full story. I
will say this like whoever knew him personally, his family
loved ones. I hope they're doing alright, and we're thinking
about you, because that is it's hard. I mean his teammates,
everyone's everyone who he's been around with is being affected

(55:38):
by that right now. It's tough for college football, and uh,
it's just important. It's important that we focus on the
guy's mental health. We focus on guys being responsible and
you know this nil stuff like if you're gonna put
this much money in front of kids that are eighteen
to twenty two years old, like, let's put some good
guidelines and some good parental guidance around these kids to
make sure that they are taking the best step forward,
not only in the short term, the long term as well.

(55:59):
So heart goes out to them and their family.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Yeah, all right, Oregon Spring Tour, it was a blast shoutout,
no free shutout Spring Tour. Yeah, man, you know, I've
replayed that play in my head all weekend long, Like
I'll set up, you know, having had her in the
in the driveway and I was trying to teach her

(56:22):
how to hit me on an option route. I was
just trying to feel that moment again. What time a
man like I'm standing there with JP and the boys
right before talking about he's gonna want to beat me. Inside,
there's gonna be a crowd, there's these running backs. They
want to beat you across the face. I just have
to guess, and I'm gonna have to guess inside. And
the fact that I fold, I mean I folded, Like,

(56:45):
let's just call what it is. I melted under the lights.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Ran the flag out, ran the flag out. I was
feeling it.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
The boys on defense are trapping me up, and I'm
thinking of my head, don't get beat inside. In the
moment he does, does a little short motion and he
starts approaching me, and I started approaching him. It's like
I folded, like there's no there's no running. From that
moment I folded, my legs got wide, I reached. I
didn't do anything that I was talking about doing, and

(57:12):
I did when I was bummed because I was hyped
and fucking make a play.

Speaker 8 (57:19):
Are you going for redemption? And for the rest of
the spring tour?

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Now I have to, you have to. But now I'm
thinking in my head, I'm overthinking.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
I'm like, you know, if I'm gonna approach, if I'm
gonna do another one on one at Michigan, Like I'm
already thinking in my head, it's this kid watching tape. Ah,
we gets beat on the inside. He's probably gonna sit
heavy on the inside. Do I ride them up on
the outside now while I'm starting to think, Hey, you're
over there starting play different and.

Speaker 6 (57:37):
You're getting the same position you were before. Paralysis by analysis. Yeah,
I don't want to beat a dead horser. But what
we talk about we were walking off the field. What
was I upset about?

Speaker 3 (57:46):
I can't remember. I'll tell you, yeah, but I do
know it hit home. Take the coach, all.

Speaker 6 (57:50):
Right, Take the coach because it's not about you getting beat,
it's about how you got beat. You said I had
a guess, correctly, but you did not guess. When we
go into Michigan Tour, we fly to michigan'm ahle, there'll
be a practice tomorrow. There will probably be an opportunity
for you to doing one on one. I don't give
a ship if this guy goes the inside and you
jump to the outside. I don't want you to make
a fast decision. That's all I care.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
You can coach fast decisions, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (58:11):
You can coach fast decisions, But when you freeze out, no,
we can't do it. You can't do it. And I
think it's gonna go a lot better for you in Michigan.
I think it is.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
I'm ready. I know all I've been thinking about. How's about.
I'm starting to feel it. I'm starting to feel I'm
starting to feel back.

Speaker 6 (58:27):
Then or worse.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
No, it doesn't feel good.

Speaker 8 (58:30):
Okay, we're gonna have like twenty five spring tour stops
for Will to Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Yeah, I'm just gonna have to start traveling the country.

Speaker 9 (58:42):
Dude.

Speaker 6 (58:42):
Yeah that was you look cool though.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
I felt good, you look cool. I felt ready.

Speaker 6 (58:48):
We gotta get your dark visor. We gotta get your
dark visor in Michigan, Texas. So I will say this
about Organ, I don't know if you can beat the
access that Oregon gave us. I don't know if it's
even possible when with Michigan and Nebraska. I did send
a couple of videos a day Aboutraska, and I just said, listen,
they opened they opened the doors for us. I can't
wait to see what Michigan does. He sparted and said

(59:12):
what size do you and Will wear? So, and then
he talks about a cheerleading out there for Will.

Speaker 8 (59:17):
So he's aware of a possible one on one.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (59:20):
I I told him I want the one on one.
I told him I want the Bryce Underwood Quarterback Challenge.
I said, I basically just said, this is what we did.
We want to do this and we'll see what there was.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
There was a one on one I did win that week.

Speaker 6 (59:36):
That now you're talking about after seven hours in the car,
on a plane, out of the car and it was
a run fit. But yeah, you got me.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Here we go.

Speaker 6 (59:53):
You got me man, and I will get mine before
it's all over.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Yeah, Marcus Dead interview drop next week. These two with
coach Lanning Marcus coming out next week. Awesome conversations, incredible
and again shout out to Oregon and the back problems
more so come from working out with the team on
that first day, like getting mixed up with the boys.
They weren't necessarily doing a recovery work out. They were
doing it let's get right work out. Yeah, yeah, I
was in there. What was Bryce's last name, Betcher? Bulldog?

(01:00:20):
He is a bulldog. Yeah, a specimen. You're trying to
keep up. There's one time where it's like, hey, I
need to take off this forty five Like the low Banks,
I am starting to feel it a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Due he was all about it. You were on some
that they're they're an awesome football team.

Speaker 6 (01:00:32):
Awesome football team. I will say I have never experienced
an offensive line the way I experienced the one organ
the camaraderie, the vibes, the energy circle, the love circle. Yeah,
they finished or walk through practice of the coaches like, hey,
come coming in to our love circle. I'm thinking, what
the fuck am I about to walk into? They all
just dab each other up. Every single one of them
have their own handshake and they all just sit there

(01:00:53):
like yo. Basically just tell each other, they love each other,
just compliment each other, Yes, compliment each other. I go
in the meeting room and the coach is talking to
them and there's like players having conversation during the coach talking.
And I'm thinking to myself, like my like where I
come from back in my day. You talk in the corner,
You're getting your ass ripped. And it's just one fluid conversation.
The boys are all dialed in. I will say, Landing's like, hey,

(01:01:16):
we got this kid, Isaiah Worlds. You know, the strength
coach comes in, which, by the way, the strength coach
at Oregon he needs his own fucking movie. Ah, I
I love this shit. Yeah, but uh, They're like, hey,
we're gonna have you work out this Isaiah World's kid, like,
you know, small ankles, big frame, blah blah blah. They're
kind of hyping this cap. I'm thinking of myself, buddy,

(01:01:36):
I'm to sixty, Like these cats are sixty pounds more
than me. I went there, I threw some weight around.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
I th that weight around.

Speaker 6 (01:01:44):
I do some weight Around'll let them know who's who.
I might be thirty three, but I might still got
it up top definitely, not below.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Definitely. The dude.

Speaker 8 (01:01:51):
They were asking Taylor a lot of questions too, which
is cool.

Speaker 6 (01:01:53):
Dude's so curious those guys. Yeah, yeah, how They're like
how did you do this or that? Like even when
we're at practice the next.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Day, dude, hey what do you do here?

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:02:02):
How do you get out of your set faster? And
which I loved that question too because I had myself
a couple of little nuggets.

Speaker 7 (01:02:08):
You can see you were you were dialed in when
it comes to like actual like hey, how do you
do with your feet kind of thing like you were
to see this is what I did, And then you
can like the players being so locked in on you
was actually like really cool one.

Speaker 6 (01:02:21):
But I got like multiple damns from those guys just
being like, hey, I appreciate you just coming out and
helping us out like it is. And then we I mean,
we just have the conversation about Nico, right and that
when it went and then you go to Orgon and
these kids are like hungry for knowledge. Their culture is
incredible at organ So yeah, that that was. It was
cool to sit there and I told them all. I
was like, listen, you have to know your body type,

(01:02:41):
you have to know your strengths. These are my strengths.
This is what I did to like, you know, highlight
those a little bit. It might not be for you,
but this is what I did. And they were about it. Bro,
it was awesome. I heard you had a nine minute speech.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Yeah yeah, I was starting to get in a ted
talk range.

Speaker 11 (01:02:57):
Kind of fucked up what they did to you?

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
No is necessary necessary? Oh buddy? Yeah. Like I'm sitting
there and I'm watching them.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Their eyes are locked on and you get to where
you're just not thinking about where you're going in the speech.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
What do you got jp?

Speaker 6 (01:03:14):
The whispers in the back.

Speaker 8 (01:03:15):
Sometimes you don't want to know this, you don't want
to know this. We're not going to say.

Speaker 6 (01:03:19):
Did you did you film his speech?

Speaker 8 (01:03:21):
Oh yeah, I filmed it. It's in the vlog. I'm
trying to figure out. I'm trying to figure out right
now if it's nine minutes, if we need it to
be nine minutes in the V cut it down? Yeah,
I cut it down.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
There's something you have some fun edisode down there with
the with the calculator approach.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
I just got to dial in my points.

Speaker 8 (01:03:41):
Oh no, that was great, and I mean truly like
it is. It's tough to cut down because you were
hitting so many great points. The only parts that got
long was just when you went back into the install
because you're like, this is the install, y'all need to
know YadA, YadA, YadA, hammered down the point. I'm like, dang,
he just crushed it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Now.

Speaker 8 (01:04:00):
When I was doing it, I was like.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
Oh, sah, sh here we go landing him with this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
When Landing hit me with that, I was starting to
go into my weekly breakdown, like.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
My structure of the week, like how do y'all watch films?

Speaker 8 (01:04:12):
Far Landing told him to wrap it up. Coach, you
got something.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
He's got a big smile.

Speaker 6 (01:04:18):
He's like, you got a job.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
To do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Like, oh, okay, but the piece we want war Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:04:27):
Hey, how much of a homie is Landing?

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Dude? He's the best. He's the best.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
There are people there all around, not just Landing, all
of them very accommodation.

Speaker 8 (01:04:34):
Treated the boys well, Marshall, Marshall Tyler.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Yeah, just the homies.

Speaker 6 (01:04:41):
What a squad man.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
Boys.

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Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
Let's hit shout out, no for shot out, Let's bookie.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
My shout out, no free shout out. This week is
going to go to have I shout at this out
before late night gas station trips. They are hitters. Like
after the kids get put down, I go down a
look at my wife. I'm gonna go hit the gas station.
If it's a weekend, you get you a tall Boy
bud light. But if it's a weekday, if it's a
school night, I'm locked in on the bay coconut drinks.

(01:05:41):
But you just take a nice little, you know, break
to where you go drive to the gas station at
stark out, you're listening to some tunes.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
You might call.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
You might call your dad or brother or somebody on
the way home and catch up with somebody. But late
night gas trips, that's a good one out of the playbook.
If your dad out there, I love it.

Speaker 6 (01:05:57):
Shout out, no free shout out. Houseful of kids, not
just your kids. But when like Will came over this
weekend on Saturday and Rue and Scotty were over here playing.
Scotty was kind of just laying there, but you know
I was Ru was playing, and then the neighbor girl
she comes over, and the mom comes over and I'm
just kind of sitting in the living room. I look
at it, well, I'm like, hey, this is what this
is kind of what it's all about. And you see

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you're just hearing all these noises of laughter. Maybe a
little fight's going on over here. One kid's trying to
get your attention. You're like, okay, how do I divert
them back to the kids? But like they're all just
having such a great time. And that was like I
was sitting there like, man, I feel like I'm doing
something right having a household like this. So shout out
houseful kids, anybody any other shoutouts.

Speaker 8 (01:06:40):
Kind of off your shout out, no free shoutouts to
gas stations that carry the limited edition drink flavors of
whatever brand we're talking about. Because I went into Casey's
fifty first. The selection was so incredible. They had these
three gatorades I had never seen before. They had an
orange lemon lime combo flavor. They had a mind ice,

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and they had some this third one that I never had.
And when I go to the gas station, I love
trying new things, and a lot of times a lot
of the gas stations don't have new things, but Caseyes did.
So shout out to gas stations with the plug with
these places and got some good pizza. They have a
great it was just a great, overall great experience. Yeah,

(01:07:21):
the icys were incredible too.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
I got an icy Midwest.

Speaker 6 (01:07:27):
Shout out ever shut out.

Speaker 11 (01:07:28):
Obviously got a shout out Tennessee Balls and Josh Haipel,
but my main shout out is Ta Chiba hud Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:07:34):
Yeah, a really great sandwich spot that apparently is a
chain and we have one or Nashville, but the boys
said it twice in a row, uh in Oregon. It's
actually the reason that me, JP and Mitch did not
make our flight home, but absolutely worth it. And dude,
just shout outs to a good sandwich. I've shouted that
out before and I'll do it all day long. Sandwiches
are my favorite food.

Speaker 6 (01:07:55):
So sandwiches is number one.

Speaker 11 (01:07:56):
Man just has to be.

Speaker 7 (01:07:58):
But yeah, the walls, I'll shout out, no free shout out,
just imprompt tuo plans. Last weekend, I was out with
one of my buddies and he's and I've said it before,
I'm like training for a triathlon in June and i
haven't really started running yet, and my buddy was like, Hey,
there's a five k like this coming Saturday. You want

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to do it? And I was like, not really, but
I will So I ran a five k Saturday morning.
It's kind of sucked. I ran, like my pace was
like a nine minute mile, not at all where I.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Wanted to be, But I think that's strong.

Speaker 7 (01:08:33):
At the end of it, I was like, you know what,
that kind of sucked to do, but like that was
it was fun, it was cool. So shout out like
imprompt two plans and just kind of all right, yeah,
I'll do.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
It from not running, I think it's a strong start.

Speaker 7 (01:08:48):
My goal was to not stop and walk at all,
and there were times where I'm like, I just want
to walk right now. But I ran the entire time.
I wasn't really running all that fast given my time,
but I have I have a starting point and it's
just gonna get shorter from there.

Speaker 10 (01:09:04):
So it shout out no free shout out movie theater dinners.
Going to a movie on an empty stomach and just
housing a large popcorn. Maybe you get the hot dog,
maybe you get the nachos. I personally like to throw
a little jalapino uh peppers on top of the popcorn.

(01:09:27):
It's just so freaking good.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Dude, did you and I see the cat slurpy?

Speaker 10 (01:09:31):
Oh yeah, dude. Well and I was shipping the whole movie.
That's a whole other story. I'm divorced now. I got
hit up Sydney Sweeney. Shout out, dude wipes, but yeah,
shout out, no free shout out.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
We beat theater dinners. Nice.

Speaker 9 (01:09:50):
I'll hit a little shout out, no free shout out.
Happened yesterday. I went to uh, one of our friends
one year old's birthday party. Uh walk in by myself,
look around him like, I don't know anyone here. There's
tons of kids like I. This situation sucks when you're
just kind of floating by yourself. Everyone's in a conversation.
But walked out to the back. All of the dads

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and other men at the birthday party are in the
back watching the masters, and so I just wheezed my
way through. Say hello to the host, Happy birthday.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Little dude.

Speaker 9 (01:10:23):
Lock in with the fellas in the back, have a
nice cold bud light, but shout out, no free shout
out to the men at a birthday party that understand
the assignment. Getting away to the side, let the kids
do the thing, the wives all do their shit, whatever's
going on, and you just kind of hide in the
corner watch sports Yeah, let's fucking go. It was terrifying.

(01:10:44):
Walked in was like, oh shit, I'm gonna have to
talk to people.

Speaker 6 (01:10:48):
Yeah, so what do you do?

Speaker 9 (01:10:50):
Yeah, it's tough but.

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Beautiful.

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Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Coach Lanny, how are you fantastic? Yeah, yeah, doing great.

Speaker 6 (01:11:52):
You're putting us on game a second ago. You're talking
about this book, the Game.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Yeah, you need to read it. Yeah, need to read
the game.

Speaker 6 (01:11:57):
And it applies to life, relationships, recruiting, the whole thing,
all of it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
You need to check it out.

Speaker 6 (01:12:03):
So there's a little sandwich technique in ball. I feel
like you're a little hesitant to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Offscript script there is.

Speaker 13 (01:12:10):
That's the thing that a book called the Game. I
don't get to use it. I'm happily married.

Speaker 6 (01:12:14):
Happily married. Hope you can use in other parts of
your life. Recruiting. When it comes to recruiting. First off,
facility is incredible, Like I want to.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Get only getting better. You saw there's some building going
over there.

Speaker 6 (01:12:25):
Half a billy out there in the back door, just
getting all strung up right, night shout out, fill night shadowing, hike.
But obviously I want to get into the day. I
want to get into the process. You being as inviting
as you have been. But when it comes to like
recruits and getting guys to travel into it basically a
secluded area, Like it's once once you guys get you
guys in this building, it's like, it's very obvious how

(01:12:45):
you get these types of recruits. How do you get
these guys to come from? You know, the southeast area?
Come over the nornybody. Travel yesterday it was actually twelve
Like we didn't get to be left at what twelve
o'clock and didn't get to a hotel and till eleven
Pacific time.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Yeah, you guys picked the wrong flight picked.

Speaker 13 (01:13:04):
But what I'll tell you is in that moment, that
time you're traveling, what built up the anticipation the whole
time you're sitting here saying how good is this about
to be? And you get here, how's it been?

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
It has been incredible?

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Elite, it's elite.

Speaker 13 (01:13:16):
And I always talk to guys in recruiting, and it's
really simple. Am I picking best or am I picking
most convenient?

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Right? If it's about most convenient?

Speaker 13 (01:13:23):
Right, I'm from Missouri, you're fro MISSOI you would have
been to the southeast Missouri, right, Like it's not about
most convenient. Right, you would have been over there at
Arizona State, who knows what it would have looked like.
It's about picking best, and what Oregon provides is one
of the best opportunities in the nation to get developed,
get recruited, to be a part of a program that's unbelievable,
and that's what we look for. It's not about the easiest,
it's about the one that makes the most sense.

Speaker 6 (01:13:44):
He's good, he's sold. You can tell he looks in
the mirror. He has his whole entire script.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
Not a script, but he just he believes he's convicted
in is in what he's saying.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Yeah, I believe in this place, that's for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:13:54):
One thing I've noticed. I mean, you give us the
opportunity to go sit in some meetings, and I sat off.
It's a line meeting room and the coach is talking
to the players like people. Very rarely in my career
did I ever get spoken to like a human being.
It was like, what the fuck are you doing? Like,
obviously this is the technique. What do you have on
this pision? No, that's not the verbs we use. We
use this for bage. It seemed like like everyone was

(01:14:16):
just having a conversation while figuring out the details of
what went wrong and how they could do better. Is
that something you preach to your coaching staff, because it
feels like when I walked in, there are some guys
like talking in the corner, some older cats, and I'm
thinking of myself, you're about to your ass trued out,
and he was like, you guys are anything? You're like, yeah,
we're just talking about this, And it just seemed like
the back and forth between coach and player seem more
like an equal level as opposed to this total pool

(01:14:38):
of like I'm better than you. I'm the coach.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
No man, how many snaps am I going to play
for organ next year?

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
Zero?

Speaker 13 (01:14:43):
Doesn't matter what I know. It's about what your players
know and what they can execute. So, you know, there's
a lot of negatives this around what people talk about
like the portal and how that exists. The truth is
the portal is revealing a lot of character of programs, right,
and here you have a relationship with your coach.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
There's connection.

Speaker 13 (01:14:57):
You feel like you can talk to this guy about
stuff beyond football.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Right, And I think that relationship is really important.

Speaker 13 (01:15:03):
It's not coach player, right, it's coach player, and that's
the guy that has to go execute. That means he
has to love the guy that he's playing for. He's
got to believe in what we're doing. How do you
create belief? Guys want to know the why today?

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
Right?

Speaker 13 (01:15:14):
You know, twenty years ago we would have ran through
any wall whatever the coach said. And I'm not trying
to run gassers after practice because I did it wrong. Now,
it's not about like establishing fear. It's about just establishing
a true relationship of this guy's making me better. He's
making me improve and if I have a question, I
better ask it or I'm going to mess it up
on the field. And our guys they certainly feel that here.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
How do you instill that culture like transitioning into this
NIL portal world where you've came from the Bamas, the
Georgia's and everything else, Like, how do you continue to
pour in the culture the way you want it done
while also knowing that it's like there's some cat and
mouse with the NIL stuff that happens.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
It feels like twenty four to seven.

Speaker 13 (01:15:50):
Yeah, it's all part of the deal. I think we're
just really open and talk to our players about it.

Speaker 8 (01:15:53):
It.

Speaker 13 (01:15:54):
Ultimately, to be a successful player, you better love football, right,
you better be infatuated process, and you can be unbelievably
taken care of in college and now in the pros
if you attack that every single day. But everybody comes
here with talent, right, what are those separating factors?

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
What makes you better right than the guy next to you?

Speaker 13 (01:16:10):
And you know, we showed a clip of Gino the
other day, just wins this twelfth national championship, and he's
talking about the standard performance and what practice has to
look like to be able to compete at the highest
level in a championship, because what's gonna happen. That standard
in practice has to be here because you're gonna fall
down a little bit at the level of competition when
the pressure is so high. So if you practice here
all the time, you're never going to reach that standard.
You're never going to reach that level that you want

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to be at on game day. I'm gonna turn it
on Saturday. It doesn't work like that. And our guys
have bought into that process. They've bought into wearing full
pads at practice, the thud and the tackling, you know,
to being physical, right, and you have to be in
level football to.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Be a part of that.

Speaker 6 (01:16:47):
They bought in. But they they're in little groups, I promise, like, man,
we gotta go full pads again. Oh yeah, they say,
you're talking like what you get into once you get
into dog days of training camp, it's say, oh my god,
we really got to do this.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
It takes what it takes.

Speaker 6 (01:16:59):
It takes what it takes. But the NIL thing is
so interesting to me because we never had to deal
with any of that. I would have died if I
was even had the availability for NIL. And you also
talk about the player coach, was that always how you were,
how you operated with your players, or did the NIL
kind of change some things up where you're like you
kind of kind of massage a little thing for some
of these guys so they don't just run off to
the next bake, shiny thing.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
Play the game.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:17:20):
I think something I learned early as it coaches that
every player is different.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Right.

Speaker 13 (01:17:25):
I've been around coaches before says I'm gonna coach you
all the same, the same. Like the reality is you're
not getting the best out of player if you coach
everybody the same. So for me, again, I feel like
this world is kind of revealed character, not necessarily the
other way around.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
And for me, I've always coached guys different.

Speaker 13 (01:17:40):
I'd coach bon Nick's a little bit different than Dylan Gabriel, Right,
I coached Ted Johnson a little bit different than treyshon Holden.
I just think that's how you get the best out
of people, Right. Some guys you can confront right there
in front of them on the field, and we certainly
do that, right, those are the fun ones, right, and
then some guys you gotta put your arm around them,
and it looks a little bit different. I don't think
it's changed the way that we coach here. I think
it tighten the awareness of being prepared for the next moment,

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like what could happen if.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
This doesn't go right?

Speaker 13 (01:18:04):
A guy had a bad day on the practice field, Okay,
what's your reaction as a coach, and trying to be
proactive rather than reactive.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
In those moments.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
Talking about being reactive and proactive take us into the
mental of Dan Lanning when you're down thirty four to
ten going and a half time against a whiles.

Speaker 13 (01:18:18):
Ooh, tough man, tough, And I think the easy thing
in those moments, especially afterwards is like, let me make
excuses of why.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
Right.

Speaker 13 (01:18:28):
But if you're a growth mindset guy, right, if you're
wired like we are here to me, it's like, how
do I make sure this doesn't happen again?

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
Right?

Speaker 13 (01:18:35):
You got to learn from that moment? Right, and as
rough as it is now. On the same note, in
the middle of the game, what am I saying? Hey,
I remember Georgia Alabama game earlier this year. It wasn't closed, man,
And those guys came back in the second half, and
we certainly played a lot better in the second half
than we did in the first. But I just I'm
that guy that I want to fight until there's you know,
no time left on the clock.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
So that's the mindset when you leave that game. After
the game's over with.

Speaker 13 (01:18:56):
You're like, Okay, how do I make sure that doesn't
happen again? Ohio State unbelieve team. You know, really well,
coach coach dated an unbelievable job this year. But you
know they're gonna have a ton of guys draft. They
had a lot of success, so we we had a
lot of guys go on to the next level. There
are things that they did in that game that we
didn't prepare prepare our players well for right. And that's
the part like can you take the medicine? Can you
figure out what didn't go right?

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
But if you're wired the right way.

Speaker 13 (01:19:18):
Right, We're watching Houston the other night and you're watching,
you know, coach Sampson has been coaching for a long time.
That guy's deserving of a national championship. How hard he's worked,
he's never touched it. It shows you how hard it is
for it, you know, to get, like so hard to get.
But that if you're motivated the right way, those moments, no,
those are growth moments. That's a chance to say, Okay,
I'm gonna go.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
In for you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Did that medicine last a little bit longer? Just no medicine.
I wake up every night about that medicine.

Speaker 13 (01:19:40):
Like you know, before we struggled early on beating Washington
and like you know when I first started here and
we were able to get over that hump, right, we
were able to beat them this past season. Right now,
I wake up thinking about that that Rose Bull game
and didn't do it the way I wanted to do it.
So it motivates me, right, it makes me hungry to
go back to work.

Speaker 6 (01:19:56):
If you take it like we all we you to accountability,
it's like, yeah, we weren't ready, we'd't have our guys PA.
Now that we've made that very clear, do you think
having that long of a break for you guys hurt
you at all?

Speaker 13 (01:20:05):
Yeah, there's certainly I'll never make an excuse, but there's
certainly things that you'd say, Okay, how would I do
this different preparing for that moment. It's a lot different
when you're playing a game every single week. And I
think there's a lot of things that college football is
still trying to figure out. There's a reason the NFL
playoffs are the way they are, right There's been a
lot of people doing playoffs for a long time, and
a lot of sports. It feels like we just decide

(01:20:26):
we're always gonna do it a little bit different and
everybody else and it's like, how about we just follow
the model that exists.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
It's a pretty good model.

Speaker 6 (01:20:32):
The model is play the championship weekend or the bath
In Championship, or don't even have the Bathen Championship, and
that following week, have your bi weeks for the first
couple of seeds, and then go on.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
And then go on, get to play the next week.
But yeah, having a long break.

Speaker 13 (01:20:43):
You know, I've always been an advocate for football season
should in college football season should in January first, That's
when the next semester starts, right, if that means everybody
starts a week zero. I've always been an advocate of,
you know, staying a rhythm. Play on Saturdays. Right, let's
finish the champion. You know, why is championship game on
a Monday? Like, those are things I don't completely understand,
but I'm sure there's some dollar signs behind it, and

(01:21:03):
it is what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
It was it difficult, like knowing that you had three
weeks off on.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
How to go about the preparation.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
Yeah, I mean, and when you look back, it's like,
what are things that you might mess with differently?

Speaker 13 (01:21:13):
Yeah, there's certainly some stuff that I'll tweak. I mean,
I won't get in the weeds about what we do different.
But I met and visited with a lot of people
on Hey how Ward this look. But it was it
was the first time for everybody, nobody experienced a college
football playoff like that before. And there's some things we'll
do different, you know, in the future. But uh, you
adapt do you put the best plan together you think
makes sense, and then you adapt an adjust based on

(01:21:35):
what what wasn't good.

Speaker 6 (01:21:36):
Is there a piece of you that blames the University
of Michigan for waking up that giant.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
I blame Morgan Man. We didn't take care of business.

Speaker 6 (01:21:44):
I just you see them. But they kind of really
opened up the playbook after they took that lost four
years in a row. By the way, if a neial
house State fans are watching to Michigan and then all
of a sudden, they were like their hair, they were hot,
caught on fire, they were hot, they were hot, they
got hot, And a piece of me really truly feels
that they won't even got past Tennessee if they were
just being Michigan and the way they should have beat them.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Here to comment, there's a piece you wish they would
have knocked a late game winning field goal early in
the season, so that way maybe the motivation or momentum
would have shifted.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
Man piece of me wishes we won.

Speaker 6 (01:22:15):
Is that feels like it was a bit of karma
because you continue to keep scoring on Michigan when you
played them. You want to pretend like I didn't hear
that little shot you took in front of the team today.
I won't say. I won't say what it was. You've
been very great, gracious.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
All competitors, right, we're all win every single time.

Speaker 6 (01:22:32):
He did say, you know there was somebody here that
played for your verse. What you saw, we did do
them this year. Very light, very comical, great timing. You
got a good, good group of boys that light shots.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:22:42):
Yeah, it's nice. Do you ever wish the ship talking
could just be allowed? Like there's obviously an unwritten rule,
Like you're like coach Day, he coached a hell of
a game. There's a piece here that it's like, listen,
we fucked up. It really wasn't you, it was it
was us. But you know how the media works, Like
you go and say that, it's like you kind of
wish you just get the boys in the room and
have a little chatter. You're a banter type of guy.

Speaker 13 (01:23:02):
I got a little juice when it comes to that. Yeah,
here's my thing. Does it help you win football games?

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
Right?

Speaker 13 (01:23:07):
If it doesn't help you win football games, then I
don't care. But do we all enjoy talking little shit?

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Sometimes?

Speaker 8 (01:23:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
I agree?

Speaker 6 (01:23:12):
When it comes to pivoting on that a little bit
is you know, you see a lot of players, a
lot of for the most part football, when guys, when
players state at the podium, it's we're playing a good team.
They have eleven guys that can go blah blah blah.
They do some unique stuff. There's a playbook for every
time we talk to the media. But then you see
a guy like Kenny Dillingham who lets his quarterback be
like I'm the fucking best and both Scatabo is like

(01:23:33):
I'm the best running back in the nation. They're gonna
find out like do you think it's gonna hurt Kenny
in the future or do you think or do.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
You think do you think it's bad for Kennedy?

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
It's a bad move for Kenny.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
Here's what I would say.

Speaker 13 (01:23:48):
I think what Kenny's figured out and here's the reason
he's having success down there at Arizona State is.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
You have to be you right.

Speaker 13 (01:23:52):
Every program is different, like Mike Leach way different from
Nick Saban, but both really successful coaches. Kenny's figuring out
what works for him and his team.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
Right.

Speaker 13 (01:24:01):
You know, I'm not a big believer in trying to
give the other team ammo. Right, But you know sometimes
that happens and I say that and we have there's
there's people out.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
There that don't like us, right, and that's okay. But
you have to be you. That's what you have to
be as a coach. People recognize that.

Speaker 6 (01:24:15):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
Last time when we sat down, we talked a lot
about your journey, like the thirteen hour drive and the
way you what about the interview and the trials and
tribulations that you had during that part of the journey.
We were talking with one of your boys at lunch
and he was kind of giving us the skinny on
your route to by the way, congratulations on your extension.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Oh thanks, you appreciate time. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Some new money, new money, new problems, right, no doubt.
But can you talk about your GA days because my
man is telling us intel like you were making like
six thousand dollars, twelve thousand dollars here you're going, you
finally get a gig tour, you're coaching, you get a
position coach, then you take a and you're making like
sixty grand there. Then you take a massive pay cut
to go be a GA and get your master's a

(01:24:56):
great at the University of Alabama. Do you ever just
sit back, bro and think about that all and think
about like the moves that you had to make in
the the sacrifice for the family. Like there was even
chatter about you guys were shopping with like food stamps.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
Is that real? Yeah, You're walking into a grocery store.

Speaker 13 (01:25:17):
We had the card, you had the coops, you have
the card, you had a car, you had to you
had a card EBT.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
Card, and you're coaching and you're shopping.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
With My wife hated when I would make her be
the one to go shop for great.

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
Because she'd make you do it.

Speaker 13 (01:25:29):
But you know, like a benefit of that when I'm
at PIT, we have that card and you need to
use it each month, right or the money is gone.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
Right.

Speaker 13 (01:25:36):
So I remember I had the whole scout team when
I'm at PIT over my house and we had a
heck of a dinner right using the swiping the card man.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
So like, I think back to that a lot.

Speaker 13 (01:25:45):
I feel so unbelievably blessed to get to do what
I do and in the place that I get to
do it and who I get to do it with.
But none of it would have happened. I always what
I always think about is what if I didn't do
that right? The pain of regret, you know, versus the
paint of discipline. I always chased opportunity. I never really worried.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
About how much I made.

Speaker 13 (01:26:02):
God always made sure we had enough to take care of,
you know, take care of the house, and we never
really wanted for more, Like we felt like we had
what we needed. And now I'm always sitting here saying, like,
what if I didn't get in that car and drive
the pit What if I didn't, you know, go to
Arizona State and instead run back to coach high school
football Missouri. You know, what if I didn't leave seeing
Sam Houston State to go be a GA for the.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Greatest football coach of all time, Coach Saban.

Speaker 13 (01:26:26):
Around that table some of the greatest coaches you know
in college football, Kirby Smart Meltuck or Mario Cristoball, Billy Naper,
Lane Kiff and just some like unbelievable people that I
got to be around, I wouldn't be where I'm at today.
So super rewarding. Man, It's a crazy path, but super.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
How long were you in the coaching game before the
opportunity to go to Alabama happened.

Speaker 13 (01:26:46):
Yeah, So, I mean I coached high school ball three years,
right then I went to Pitt for one year, and
it's kind of some small stop. So I was Pitt
one year, Arizona State for two years is a GA,
and then Sam Houston State one year, and then Bama.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
So I'm not a math major as pe guy, but
you can have.

Speaker 6 (01:27:01):
Those sounds close to around and then you.

Speaker 13 (01:27:04):
Know, Bama was still a GA, right I was. I
was making twelve hundred bucks a month and three kids, and.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
I was gonna say, and you had a family, not
just a wife, you had three kids, three kids? Yeah,
and then yeah, it's amazing, you know you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
What I realize now is a lot of that was
really selfish.

Speaker 13 (01:27:19):
Like everybody wants to be able to be like an
unbelievable dad and unbelievable husband, and you want that, but
you also want to elevate, you want to move up,
and the selfishness early in my career there was a
sacrifice my family. That was a big sacrifice. What I
figured out now is how I can balance that? Right,
you can have both, but to get here I probably couldn't. Right,
There isn't balance right to get here.

Speaker 6 (01:27:39):
When you're having those kids and you have twelve hundred
bucks a month, Like, was there ever a point where like,
maybe this isn't for me.

Speaker 13 (01:27:45):
Uh, you certainly have doubt at times, But what made
it work is my wife was always on board, right,
it always made sense. And what we did is anytime,
like I went to Sam Houston State and we're making
a little over sixty thousand that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
Year with three kids, so we saved.

Speaker 13 (01:27:58):
Like it was always in our mind, like, let's plan
for the next time we have a hardship, right, and
like going broke, Like I owned a house and in Liberty,
Missouri when I went to pitt and this is when
the housing market crashed, so my wife stayed in Kansas
City with Caden and Niles.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
We just had you know, Niles, and we.

Speaker 13 (01:28:15):
Tried to sell the house. We couldn't sell it for
what we owed on the house. So what happens to
the house foreclosed?

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
Right? I think going broke early in my career was
like a great.

Speaker 13 (01:28:23):
Lesson of Hey, this could happen again, right, and you
kind of figure out what do I need to live
in live on?

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
Not what do I want?

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
Where are you coming home from Sam Houston with just
all to go boxes from what the Absolutely the kitchen maid.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
Absolutely absolutely, I'm.

Speaker 6 (01:28:40):
Bringing it at home. Don't even worry about it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (01:28:42):
Late night as the.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
Coach coach are always look at players. Family is going
to be eating good tonight.

Speaker 6 (01:28:46):
Yeah, out of there, dude. You mentioned going broke early
in your life is almost a it's a it's a
good blessing because you get to learn how to save,
how to do all those things. Now you're living in
a world where these players are making a shipload of money, right,
how like, how do you instill that type of discipline
on them, because it's got to be so hard. Like,
guys come from whatever part of like your life. They

(01:29:07):
come from upper class, poor, everything in the middle. Once
you get some money that's yours, not your parents' money,
but yours, it's like I'm gonna get this car, I
want to get this chain, this, that and the other.
And when I was walking around here today, I didn't
see I saw a couple of chains, I saw a
couple of the but like, I didn't see anything like
over the top or it seems like these guys have
good heads on their shoulders.

Speaker 13 (01:29:25):
Yeah, I think that that our guys are pretty savvy
that they all make mistakes, right, but always telling recruiting like, look, man,
you're about to be taken care of. I don't need
you to walk into this chain and says tailor on it,
like we can just have a t man, like it
doesn't you know the.

Speaker 6 (01:29:37):
Other five letters, right, Just let's be smart.

Speaker 13 (01:29:39):
So I think the education piece, we spend a lot
of time on financial literacy here.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
We bring people in to.

Speaker 13 (01:29:44):
Talk to our guys, and they have to feel comfortable
having those conversations with us.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
You know.

Speaker 13 (01:29:48):
I'm I'm visiting yesterday with Bucky Irving and I'm so
proud of what he's done in the NFL with the Bucks.
But we're just catching up and he's talking about, hey,
here's the great decisions I've made so far financially, and
how he's able to, you know, put some put some back,
and he's taking care of the future. And I think
some of that's from lessons learned here. So you hope
that you're teaching those lessons. And then sometimes a mistake
is a great lesson, Right, Some of these guys will

(01:30:08):
make a mistake, but you want them to learn from
it and build from it so they can have a
long term future because of it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
Have you ever seen one of the boys drive something
in and you gotta like, oh, I definitely got par
keys before.

Speaker 13 (01:30:19):
I've definitely seen. It's more about like, let's talk about
how are you driving? Right, Like it's more about how
are you driving?

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
What are you driving? But there's certainly conversations had, right.

Speaker 13 (01:30:27):
I think there's always buyer's remorse with some with some
guys that make a poor financial decision and they realize
it usually down the road, right, But uh, yeah, you
got to educate them in everything. It's not just football.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
What's your what's been your biggest splurge? Yeah, since your
new money has happened.

Speaker 13 (01:30:43):
I I bought a Vantage Bronco nineteen seventy four vintage
Broncome and it was one of those ones where I
didn't realize what it costs right when I was like, yeah,
I can afford it Bronco, right, And then you figure
out what it costs, Like the guy that got one
before me was lebron James.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
And then I was like, wait a minute, how much
is this?

Speaker 6 (01:31:01):
So you went to vintage Bronco, Yeah, vintage Bronco. Yeah.
My wife has a seventy four Wimbledon white one from
Vintage Bronco as well.

Speaker 13 (01:31:08):
They're awesome, unreal in it. Yeah, it's they're they're awesome.
And the guy that actually makes some small world right
he what was his name?

Speaker 8 (01:31:15):
Right?

Speaker 13 (01:31:15):
Yeah, Cho He went to school at Oregon, no way,
never knew it. And then you know, I was at Georgia.
You know, we kind of d I mean I was
following the Instagram page and I was like, Okay, that's
the someday, Yeah, maybe get one of those, right, and
you come out here and we get connected, and yeah,
I end up getting one from him.

Speaker 6 (01:31:31):
They've got a cool setup because I think they get
their parts from Ford themselves. Yeah, because a lot of
times you do these resto mods, you're kind of putting
pieces together where maybe shouldn't be with them. But we've
never had a problem with the Bronco.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
It's been out. It's it's been awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:31:43):
And I had this weird dream of having only like
older cars that just you know, turn key drive every
single day. The Bronco does my truck, my seventy seven
one hundred. It's you know, every couple of months, I'm
calling you and be like, hey, it's not working.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
The way its supposed to be.

Speaker 6 (01:31:58):
I got ober home now because it's call our X,
Y and Z.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Yeah, Bronco's been great.

Speaker 6 (01:32:02):
The Bronco's great. Man, they got a great set up there.
We went down there. I tried to give them cash
and they're like, listen, the price.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
Is the price, it is what it is. You're not
good to deal.

Speaker 6 (01:32:10):
I tried to too. I brought in. I only brought cash,
and I was like, I'll give you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
And then they told you everybody that buys these byamen cash.

Speaker 6 (01:32:15):
Yeah. I was like, yeah, you're right. I'm gonna get
the fuck out of here. But they hooked it up. Man,
that's awesome. I'm stoked for you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
So you have it now, I have it and I'll
show it to you guys later on.

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
Yeah. Yeah, you know what color?

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
It's actually like, uh, gray, I don't know what color
gray you'd call it.

Speaker 6 (01:32:27):
But did you do the four door or the two door?

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
Two door?

Speaker 6 (01:32:30):
You thought about that four door at all?

Speaker 13 (01:32:31):
It was before I don't know if it was even
an option yet at the point at that point when
I when I got it, it might have been.

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
But we'll see it though. We get to go some
dinner at this check it out to see the main cave.
That's right, you got a little set up. You got
a sneaker collection.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
I got some sneakers. I got a couple of sneakers.
I'll show you for you. I'm not a fourteen, I'm
a thirteen.

Speaker 6 (01:32:48):
Yeah, I'll tell you what though, I walked in with
some not Nike shoes today.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
You got heat on.

Speaker 6 (01:32:53):
Now, got an ass chewing and you were like killing
my office. These are unbelievable. You got some heat on, man, Yes,
and I know you were like, I'll try to show
the in this. I think it's this one.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
Yeah, the stories and this story is really cool.

Speaker 6 (01:33:03):
You what do you want? Do you mind telling the story?

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
Yeah? Just you know.

Speaker 13 (01:33:06):
You know, Nike partners with dorm Becker, which is a
children's hospible here in Oregon, and these kids they design
different you know, uh, different logos, different themes, and they
have a competition, it's right, And after that competition they picked.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
The winner and they actually end up creating the shoes.

Speaker 13 (01:33:20):
So some pretty cool gear that's made there by Nike
with a with an awesome purpose.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
You guys are connected with Nike, man, I mean, what
an unbelievable spot that you're in no doubt. Let's talk
about the day. How's it been having the boys around.

Speaker 13 (01:33:35):
There's a little bit of like juice in the building, right,
You guys brought some juice. I love that Taylor came
down and immediately rips his shirt up. Will went kind
of like, hey man, this these moments go fast. It
was a little centimental. You can see his heart. I'm
not sure if he was tearing up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
Like you could see.

Speaker 13 (01:33:50):
Taylor comes down, rips his shirt off, and says, let's
go to.

Speaker 6 (01:33:53):
You know works workout this Isaiah world kid. It looks great.
They bail ball bull.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
I wasn't in the room today.

Speaker 6 (01:34:01):
Phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
He was good.

Speaker 6 (01:34:02):
He was un I do want to get back to
Will's speech in a second, but I will my speech
the offensive line. That group of boys, it is a
very unique group. It's one of those screaming and yell
the whole time, getting the fuck after it, Like I
like fifteen ooses. I'm white, but I'm getting the oose
call the chest bumping me and I'm feeling myself.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
So one of my favorite things in the world. We
have a pool in our house.

Speaker 13 (01:34:22):
Those those dudes come over all the time in the summer,
and they take over the pool and we have these
rocks right by the pool. They'll jump into the pool
and they shoot this like volleyball up in the sky
if you ever seen it happen. But they bring their
own boombox, right, they got the music rolling. It's a
it's a special unit. Our offensive line is a really
special unit.

Speaker 6 (01:34:40):
And I talked about that that meeting room too, like
it was like I felt so uncomfortable because it was
so awesome. I've never experienced anything like that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
How do you think you would have played in that environment.

Speaker 6 (01:34:49):
Yeah, I would have had a lot of fun. Yeah,
I would have had a lot of fun. But I
would have been one of those guys that you had
to bring me in and like rain me in a
little bit, like, hey, you gotta calm down, like we
do have to get some work done. Yeah, because I'm
like a give an inch take of my type of guy.
When it came like having the ability to like, yeah,
have fun, that's right, Hey you can have fun. We're
having all the fun in the world. And then you're like,
well we can have all the fun of the way.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
Come back, yeah, come back.

Speaker 6 (01:35:09):
But that was a good group, and when you called
us down too, because you gave us this morning it
was like seven am, six.

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
Thirty, Yeah, something like that introduction.

Speaker 6 (01:35:16):
And you put the whole thing up and it was
like your heights kind of pounded and you're like, yeah,
we'll have you guys say a couple of things for
the team. And I know how you were talking about it.
I was feeling the same exact way.

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
Where I'm thinking we're coming down together.

Speaker 6 (01:35:25):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
I didn't really give you a lot of heads up.

Speaker 6 (01:35:28):
It was good though, Yeah, like you gotta.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
Guys do it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
How often do you like, Hey, that didn't work. I
gotta go. You got to be right out like on
your toes.

Speaker 6 (01:35:35):
There's a whole lot of multiple takes, not a whole
one take for a man.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
Yeah, one take.

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
But thought process is too, Like when I came down
to give the speech, is like, we do funny content,
like we're in we do social media, we have the podcast,
we bust balls, we have a good time. But every
time I feel like I get in these environments where
I'm around the players and I'm around the football team,
you want to give something that's like you get back
in like the ball mentality, right, you think of the
nostalt and when I'm talking about like, enjoy these moments

(01:36:03):
because they're gonna be gone one day, Like we get
to do something so fun. And something that we always
talk about is like college football because in high school,
you run around, you're playing, you're having fun, like everybody's
the best on their team. You don't really know what
you're doing, but you know you're executing. You think you're
an NFL player, right, But you get to the NFL,
it's all business like if you don't play well, you
get cut, you get fined, you do all these things.
But the commitment to a team and where every guy

(01:36:25):
is on the same page.

Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
You don't have that at the next level.

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
You're doing in certain aspects and in certain areas, but
it's a business at the end of the day. Like
the camaraderie and again the sacrifice for like you know
that championship are coming in, trying to get that one
percent better. Everybody's on the same board, and usually it's
like by the time it goes, it's gone, and then
you're just thinking about it in the rear view mirror.
But being like, man, we had such a hell of
a time. So that's why I was like, you know,

(01:36:48):
I'm trying to like tell these I'm like, it's a
good story, man, like boys enjoy this?

Speaker 6 (01:36:52):
Man, did you know you were going to do that
when you were walking down? Because I felt like you
were taking a minute to walk down, walking about what
you're about?

Speaker 3 (01:36:58):
Once he said once the worst came out of his mouth.
Do you have some words?

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
That's when I knew Taylor's not coming down and no
one's coming to say, Yeah, if you're gonna give a
few words, because you know, I get long winded with speeches,
But if you're gonna give a few words, like what
would be a message that you want to get across
to them?

Speaker 6 (01:37:14):
And JP was sitting next to Will being like, you're nervous,
Like what are you gonna say? You're gonna be all right?
Like definitely getting in Will's head, But I'm also hearing
being like, I'm fucking nervous. What am I like?

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
Well, anytime, even as a player, when you're speaking in
front of the team, when all the when all these
chairs are filled up and you're speaking in front of
your peers, unless you're like the head coach or like
coaches who are talking from them all the time, like
you got you know, you're getting checked, like you're getting
put in a situation to where that speaking is the
most nerve wrecking speaking that you'll ever do.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
In front of your team.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
Picture something right now for me.

Speaker 13 (01:37:44):
Right you're in front of that you know camera, Do
you realize, like picture all the people that are gonna
watch this and they're sitting in a chair too, treating.

Speaker 3 (01:37:51):
You're you're right.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
But it's like those it would probably be what a
billion people that watch this episode, Like they're like that's
inside the camera, like they're not sitting here around you
to where again it's like that elevator in front of
the camera.

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
Yeah, yeah, no, you're right.

Speaker 6 (01:38:04):
With all those eyes. Like I've like public speaking. I
think we've both done a handful of stuff. I really
don't get nervous public speaking, but whatever reason, whenever it's
football players, I feel like I have like an obligation
to say something either profound or get the juices flowing.
And if I don't do one of those two things,
I like let everybody down you.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
Feel like they're the best in the world and like
spot in a phony.

Speaker 6 (01:38:24):
Yeah, because it all I mean, we were easy to
see authenticity and not. It's so easy to see it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
And like we've sat in these chairs and you know
when speakers coach would have speaker come in and stuff,
and you know which ones that you're into and which
ones you're not, or which ones that you might be
surprised by.

Speaker 6 (01:38:37):
Right right there. I mean, we did the the Rookie
Symposium in twenty fourteen and there was a I'm not
going to say the player's name, but he came down.
He was he's a Hall of Fame player, and he
spent forty five minutes talking to us about how good
he was where I'm just like, bro, can you help me?
First off, I don't want to be here anyway, right,
we all want to go home. We like we just
finished OTAs. But he's just making it all about himself.

(01:38:59):
And when he times, I'm like, you have this opportunity,
it's like how do we talk to you guys to
where it's like, yeah, we've been here and we're willing
to help you, but also it's about you, not us,
because like our story will and I story is already written,
like whether we can be proud of it, we can
have our playing days of like literally beginning between, you know,
getting inside the lines and putting a helmet on and
getting after it like it's over, it's done. Now, it's

(01:39:21):
all about you guys. And that's one thing I really
appreciate about your boys as well as you. Like Will
came in with the sentimental and I was like, well,
there's no point in going sentimental. You have to bring
the juice. So we like the little ying and yang.
But a bunch of your guys were come out to
me solo, just asking questions, Hey, if you could tell
yourself thing, We'll tell yourself one thing different when you
were in college.

Speaker 3 (01:39:38):
What would it be?

Speaker 6 (01:39:39):
Mine was like party less and then one kid's like
on the only party. I was like, okay, then let's
try this do this. But like every like, there was
like four or five guys that intentionally came up and
like wanted to learn something because they thought I had
some sort of value to give them. And that's awesome.
It's awesome that there's like a certain curiosity here in
Oregon guys actually want to get better. It says a
lot about the culture that's good.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
And Taylor's having this conversation when we're in the tubs too,
like we did the if everybody watched, we did the
full thing.

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
We did the team recovery. Yeah, hey they're getting recovered.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
We did the team meeting, We sat in the special
teams meeting, We did the offensive defensive meetings. We went
down and worked out with the boys, which, by the way,
trying to be young again is a tough gig. I'm
working out with Bryce number twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
Yeah he's drafted in baseball.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
Dude, he has a hell of a story.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
Yeah he walked on both Yeah, great story.

Speaker 1 (01:40:28):
Yeah, he has an incredible story. Draft in the thirteenth round.
But he's a bulldog in the weight room. Oh yeah,
but he stacked. He's got the shoulders, he's got the neck,
he's got everything.

Speaker 6 (01:40:36):
He's got Compton College vies.

Speaker 1 (01:40:38):
He's trying to throw on all these extra plates. And
there's one point where I'm like, hey, let's go ahead
and strip this off like my little back starting now.
You gotta be you gotta be worried about that stuff.
When you get older, you get removed and you realize,
like you just don't you're a shelly yourself.

Speaker 6 (01:40:51):
These kids are want to see will Compton, They want
to see the ess. Yeah, so you gotta put your
put your back in a vulnerable position in order to
produce for these.

Speaker 1 (01:40:59):
I kept up, but it's one of those things. I know,
when we walk in tomorrow and do practice, I'm gonna
be feeling it.

Speaker 6 (01:41:04):
Yeah yeah, get ready, Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
The linebacker meeting room was fun. I put on my
coaching hat for a moment. I had to tell coach,
I say, can we go back to the last clip, like, hey,
the backer down here, how can you help out your
fellow made up top? It was like three by one,
but speed was outside. Speed was at three. Yeah, the
back was deep as in a far set. But he
goes behind the quarterback and flares out to the three side.

(01:41:28):
And the backrup top, who was like man on the
number three, he had tunnel vision. He wasn't my man
wasn't even looking in the backfield. So he could help
himself out by looking in the backfield. But the guy
who's blitzing down at the bottom, like, hey, how can
you help out your fellow made up top? Let him
know that the back is deep, and when he flares
across you, guys are already anticipating that you're not reacting
to it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
So just in.

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
Case one day when I put on this, put on
the exchange the microphone for a whistle.

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
That'll be my interview for you. Stay ready, yeah, I
stay ready so you don't have to get ready.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
Man, that's right.

Speaker 6 (01:41:54):
That poor linebacker coach is done. He's will confident.

Speaker 3 (01:41:59):
He's like, that's it. He's like, that's a that's a
great point. Yeah, the yarps on it again.

Speaker 6 (01:42:03):
I mean that was nice, right, you got you got
juicy up a little.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
I get excited a little three four exchange.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
But you know, the inside back of room, like you
got like that room, communication is what it runs through.

Speaker 13 (01:42:12):
And in the NFL it's I'm glad this is transitioned
down to college now you get you want green dot guys. Yeah,
you want guys that can can get everybody on the
field lined up.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
Yeah, that's your job in linebacker, so super important.

Speaker 3 (01:42:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:42:24):
I think I noticed you guys have is a lot
I'm not going to get too much into it because
it's a little bit in the weeds, but like, you
guys have a lot of verbiage. Yeah, do you guys
just have a lot of verbage right now because the
spring ball and you'll kind of like tone it down
a little bit when you get to fall.

Speaker 13 (01:42:35):
I mean some of these things will later on become
one word calls or things like that, right, but right
now we're throwing the kitchen sink at these guys, right right,
It'll be the same thing in fall camp. I want
to always go into a game with enough weapons, right
and be like, all right, where do we need to navigate?

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
Where do we need to adjust? And it's it's really
both sides of the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:42:51):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (01:42:52):
And then you hope when you get into a game,
like you guys know that that scope narrows a little bit,
like what are the ten runs that we love? What
are the ten passes? And because was a little bit smaller,
same with coverages.

Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
How is it for the midyear guys? I think you
like this era of college football. There's a lot more
mid year guys that are coming in early. Yeah, most
I got to meet one of them down in the
tuffs deal. Deer deer yeah, deer hill, deer hill. There
he is, Yeah, Saint Louis guy.

Speaker 3 (01:43:18):
Saint Louis guy.

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
But I'm sitting there talking with him, and you know,
I ended up telling him like, hey, you got a
pretty good head on your shoulders. But he just seemed
like a sponge and I'm just thinking it feels rare
for a mid year young guy. He's like, oh, this
is my second week here. I'm like, this is your
second week here, Like, how has everything been?

Speaker 8 (01:43:32):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
Because it's a massive jo.

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
You drinking firehose?

Speaker 13 (01:43:34):
Yeah hard, It's really hard for that guy that just
like he just started because we were a quarter system.

Speaker 2 (01:43:39):
He just joined this quarter.

Speaker 13 (01:43:40):
A lot of guys joined in January right where they
have a little bit more time for walk through. There
were three guys that joined us in this window and
it is you're you're drinking out of a fire hose, right,
but yeah, make mistakes full speed and we'll figure it out.

Speaker 3 (01:43:54):
You have something.

Speaker 6 (01:43:54):
Yeah with Well, I want to go back to, like
the speaking in front of the team. How is it
for you when you first started approaching, like having to
sit in front of like a defensive meeting room or
a linebacker's room or a secondary room, And how did
you like gain the confidence is when you walked in,
you were you were handling the boys the correct way.
You're working in the room a little bit. You had
a couple of nice place jokes like you just seem

(01:44:16):
like you're firing all cylinders. Obviously you've had a lot
of reps at it now, but when you first started, Like,
what was the most difficult part for you? Did you
ever have issue with that?

Speaker 13 (01:44:23):
I don't know that it ever really bothered me. I
felt like I had a lot of great training. I
got to go watch Kirby Smart do it every day.
I got to watch Nick Saban do it. I got
to watch Mike Norvel do it. And and for me,
whatever seat I was sitting in, I was always trying
to prepare myself for.

Speaker 2 (01:44:34):
The next seat.

Speaker 3 (01:44:35):
Now.

Speaker 13 (01:44:36):
I think early on, when you have to go talk
to a team the first time, you're like writing down
every note you are you are practicing.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
You're like, okay, what do I need to hit?

Speaker 13 (01:44:43):
Now it's something that you're a lot more comfortable with,
and as long as you have a plan a process,
you can hit it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:50):
Back in that first Ohio State game, the twelve players
on the field, yeah, can you talk just about it
because I think there's a new rule now, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
There is a new room. Can't do anymore.

Speaker 13 (01:45:01):
Well, I mean, ultimately, you work unbelievable, Like don't you
guys saw on our walk through today we worked like
into game situations like okay, the difference in ten seconds
left in the game versus six seconds or five seconds
in the end game, and how your calls are going
to change. I mean, you prepare for so many inordinate situations, right,
and there's one where you get an opportunity to call
time out.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
Try to get it, you.

Speaker 13 (01:45:21):
Know a little bit of an advantage and times more
valuable at that point in the game than yardage, right,
And it worked out.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
But now it's a different rules, so we can't do
it anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
How were you able to kind of expose that rule
like it was that something you came across kind of
that year, years prior something situationally that obviously you bring
up throughout the year.

Speaker 3 (01:45:38):
But when was the moment where you were able.

Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
To be like, hey, if this pops up, like this
is something to where we can leverage this rule in
our favor.

Speaker 13 (01:45:45):
You know, I think you know Vrabel always did it
with like you got you You're looking for every advantage
you can create, right in football, whatever the rule might be,
like you see a lot more often now defensively. Let's
say it's like a four minute situation, you got to
get the ball back for the offense. Right, there's a
five yard penalty, right, and now it's first and five.
But the reality is, you don't you don't feel like

(01:46:07):
you could probably stop a five. You know they have
four downs to get five. I'm gonna jump off sides,
give them an automatic first, right, so we can get
the clock.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
Back to an advantage for us defensively.

Speaker 13 (01:46:16):
So like there's moments where you might intentionally jump off sides,
you talk through all those scenarios where a penalty makes
sense where it's better to get a pass interference in
this situation than to give up a big play, right,
and then you get to a certain level of the field.
We spend time on those every single week, right as
a coaching staff. Some of them show up a lot
more often than others, you know. But we have a
group that really works with us when it comes to

(01:46:37):
analytics and win's the right penalty to take, what's the
wrong penalty to take? And when you have a team
right that's able to assess those situations, you can attack it.

Speaker 6 (01:46:44):
Do you have like a one guy that kind of
really looks into those details for you, like you brought
up Vrabel Raybo's got a guy named John Striker, right,
who legends he's a legend, But he was the guy
that would bring these types of situations. And one of
the situations that was a rule change after was twenty
nineteen Wildcard game versus Patriots, and we killed the clock
a bunch on punt team because we took a delay
game twice and then a false start and that killed

(01:47:06):
a bunch of time off the clock. Bill belichicks the
other side screaming his face off. Well, Raves is quietly
laughing and thinking about hitting his jewel after the game.
So that ends up changing, but stretches the guy that
brings all that to him. Do you have somebody like, hey,
I need you to find the gray area rules so
we can exploit them.

Speaker 13 (01:47:22):
So we work, we have a couple guys instead of
having just one guy that's in charge. I've always kind
of found it's just like having you have a defensive coordinator,
you get a codc right, So we have a couple
guys that are help with those situations, like the designated
guy on offense and defense, and then just like overall
personnel that's evaluating that, you know, throughout games and then
on like Thursdays, I like to play the game with
the coaches before the game. So Thursday is really kind

(01:47:45):
of our last heavy practice. Right after that's over with,
we'll throw on a TV copy of a game right
of an opponent that we're about to play. If we're
playing them at home, right, we'll watch one of their
away games right on TV, and then a lot of
those situations will come up. So you're just talking through
it as a staff, right, like what openers do you
like here? And he's calling this, he's calling the offense
like you call the offense. But now you're also saying,

(01:48:05):
all right, third and one. We see this as a
go trying to make those decisions before you get the
game day. That way, when you get the game day,
it's kind of like smooth sailing, like, you know, always trying.

Speaker 2 (01:48:14):
To create those moments in practice.

Speaker 13 (01:48:16):
That four minute two minute scenario that we had in
practice yesterday, Like we're trying to decide is this a scenario.

Speaker 2 (01:48:21):
Where we would use our time out?

Speaker 13 (01:48:23):
You know, so our players if you come and ask
them in the room, like hey, when does Coach Landing
like to use this timeouts, they're like, okay, around thirty
to thirty five seconds if we have three timeouts, that's
where he likes to use it. So now we step
on the field, you know what our temperament's going to
be right. In those situations you're not you know not
you know, and you make mistakes at practice, but that's
where mistakes have to happen. But if we're all on
the same page, right, that's where you know, it becomes advantageous.

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
In last year when the twelfth player one, did the
twelfth player know what was happening or you like, hey,
go stand out there and we call stand out.

Speaker 13 (01:48:51):
There until we say protect the sideline, just kind of say,
get it's not one of those ones you're gonna spend
a ton of practice time on.

Speaker 9 (01:48:56):
Right.

Speaker 13 (01:48:57):
Right, we call coverage with inside leverage and we threw
an extra guy with outside leverage of the sideline.

Speaker 6 (01:49:01):
Did that guy did you tell him or you say, hey,
just want to sew.

Speaker 13 (01:49:05):
In the moment, but didn't really know what in them
he didn't know a situation You don't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
Every single week. There was there wasn't a lot of clarity.

Speaker 1 (01:49:11):
I don't want to see if rape had one like
that too, where it was like Josh klou was on
the side, he said, Josh, go out there and stand
just stand out there by the.

Speaker 6 (01:49:16):
Way against the Colts.

Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
Yeah, sometimes you'll do that.

Speaker 13 (01:49:18):
Like let's say you rather take a penalty, uh, you know,
have twelve guys on the field if they're at the
three yard line right and and not having no play happen,
rather than us being the wrong formation or the the
wrong alignment or not. Everybody on the same call like, Okay,
give me half the distance to the goal so we
get another chance to stop him.

Speaker 6 (01:49:35):
Does a piece of you smile when you get the
twelve men on the field call and you feel the
crowd of like, oh, because there's such a huge part
of the game, like no one knows what you're doing
except for you and the people that truly know ball.
It's like a little smile on your face. It's like
these idiots in.

Speaker 13 (01:49:48):
The really in the back of your mind you're saying, wait,
I hope that is what we thought it was, right, ye, Like,
I hope he didn't screw that up, right.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
But I try not to think about what everybody else
is thinking about this moment.

Speaker 6 (01:49:57):
I mean to think of that in that moment is
just it's good. It's good brain thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:50:02):
We got good, got a great staff, here.

Speaker 6 (01:50:03):
You're you're very polished in that regard, extremely polished, And
I mean that as a massive compliment too, Like you're
you're you're not a guy that's ever gonna take credit.
You're always not playing in the game. Addition, you're a
point guard.

Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
Yeah, I'm not playing the game, right.

Speaker 13 (01:50:15):
We got we got great people here, Like everybody thinks
about Oregon and like great facility's awesome jerseys all, Like, really, truly,
the people here is what what.

Speaker 2 (01:50:23):
Makes this thing different. And I got great people.

Speaker 6 (01:50:25):
Yeah, a good group of guys.

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
We can't we can't run a pot either. Just just
in the middle of the episode, just shout out the committee.
That's all I'm gonna say about it. But I just
want to show shout out to the committee.

Speaker 2 (01:50:33):
Yeah, oh yeah, we'll talk about tonight.

Speaker 6 (01:50:37):
Yeah, I'm a we'm aware ish ish big ten.

Speaker 3 (01:50:43):
Yeah, first year.

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
Yeah, you obviously.

Speaker 6 (01:50:45):
Went thirteen to know you want to be ten championship.
So you had a lot of success, right, Was it
what you expected going from the PAC twelve?

Speaker 13 (01:50:52):
I mean, I loved everything about it. I enjoyed being
in this conference. I think it starts with our conference,
you know, with Tony Pettiti our conference commissioner, the schools
that are a part of it make this a lot
of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
You know.

Speaker 13 (01:51:02):
The travel for football is a lot different than maybe
the other sports. Like it's enjoyable, you know for us.
So yeah, it was everything I hope it would be.
You know, you got some unbelievable teams, you know, really
competitive conference, some really cool venues.

Speaker 7 (01:51:14):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
I think it's a lot of fun for our players
and our staff.

Speaker 3 (01:51:17):
You itching to get the Nebraska game on the schedule.
We have them want in two years, right, Yeah, you're
gonna be.

Speaker 6 (01:51:22):
There, Dole dies, he will be there. We we were
doing the full the first two weeks. I think we're
at Nebraska both times.

Speaker 2 (01:51:31):
Yeah, of course we said there.

Speaker 6 (01:51:34):
We got to hit down one.

Speaker 3 (01:51:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:51:36):
Basically we'll put this coaching head on. It'll be you
guys in Nebraska fighting topic at the bit.

Speaker 13 (01:51:40):
When you play, when you play in c AA, is
that you always play at Nebraska?

Speaker 3 (01:51:43):
Yeah? Always yeah, Yeah, Yeah, it's a squad.

Speaker 6 (01:51:46):
What what was Was there any stadiums that you were
like really impressed by under one by maybe one stadium?

Speaker 1 (01:51:52):
No, I mean, come say who you're under the boys?

Speaker 11 (01:51:57):
The boys?

Speaker 6 (01:51:58):
The Boys. I am billion people.

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
No, I wasn't. There was nothing that I was underwhelmed with.

Speaker 3 (01:52:03):
Hang on, did you hang on?

Speaker 1 (01:52:04):
Let me ask this because I don't know where you guys,
you know, did you play at Michigan?

Speaker 6 (01:52:07):
Yeah, he played play at Michigan.

Speaker 13 (01:52:08):
Yeah, it was an awesome atmosphere. I mean, big stadium.

Speaker 3 (01:52:13):
The underwhelming.

Speaker 6 (01:52:14):
Also, it's not as it's one hundred and fifteen thousand people.
It's not as loud as it should. Betson Stadium is
louder than Yes, Watson Stadium is.

Speaker 2 (01:52:22):
I mean, you guys experienced the first hand.

Speaker 6 (01:52:23):
It's okay to say truths.

Speaker 2 (01:52:25):
That's all right.

Speaker 6 (01:52:26):
Yeah, that's the truth. So it's a little bit underwhelming.
You think about one hundred feenousand people.

Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
It's just different. Maybe it's built different.

Speaker 8 (01:52:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:52:31):
I mean, yeah, it is built it it's like a bowl.
It's built out.

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):
You kind of like when I played at Michigan. You're
like excited to play, are you guys? The biggest stadium?

Speaker 6 (01:52:40):
Yeah, in North America, the third biggest in the world, but.

Speaker 3 (01:52:42):
In college football yeah yeah. Yeah. You guys just.

Speaker 2 (01:52:44):
Gotta be uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
See you're a bench style and you're thinking it's going
to be sick to play in front of one hundred
and fifteen thousand people. But then when the game starts,
your your brain more so goes to it's cool playing
in a like a tradition spot like this, like a
like a historic player.

Speaker 2 (01:52:58):
There's nothing cool get played there.

Speaker 6 (01:53:00):
It wasn't loud because we.

Speaker 1 (01:53:01):
Right right, you get all like, Okay, it's not as
loud as I thought it'd be, but it's still sick
to play in the big house, right.

Speaker 6 (01:53:06):
But we also like there wasn't a lot to get
cheer about because we we kind of handled the Braskt
when we played.

Speaker 3 (01:53:10):
Yeah, yeah again, I wasn't I wasn't like you to
throw that.

Speaker 13 (01:53:14):
How he goes like defense immediately goes in defense mode.

Speaker 6 (01:53:17):
I'm just trying to throw the pot a little bit.
Yeah pot. The next year, your senior year.

Speaker 3 (01:53:22):
Yeah you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
Ever, like this year we get to play it at
Penn State. That'll be one. That's when I hear it's
pretty loud, be a fun, fun environment.

Speaker 6 (01:53:31):
Is allowed to I think here might be.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
Here's loud, man, the game.

Speaker 3 (01:53:37):
The game came to the.

Speaker 6 (01:53:38):
State, I think it might be louder because it's more
but maybe not a state, but here. I was extremely impressed.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
Was we got a good crowd, man, Yeah, got a
good crowd.

Speaker 3 (01:53:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
The students that yeah, student section was the love ball
full active full. But what's interesting is we went and
got breakfast that morning and there seems to be like
nobody like there's no weights.

Speaker 2 (01:54:02):
Calm before the storm. Yeah, it's calm before the storm.

Speaker 3 (01:54:05):
But I feel like everywhere else it's like there's traffic
storm storm.

Speaker 2 (01:54:08):
Maybe we got great traffic storm. Maybe we got great
control man, great road.

Speaker 3 (01:54:13):
Was you gotta play him?

Speaker 6 (01:54:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:54:15):
Should we hit the should we hit the spicy tear talk? Yeah?
All right? JP? Question do you do you want to hold? Yeah?
Hold the mic?

Speaker 1 (01:54:22):
You know the audience would be going crazy in the comments.

Speaker 8 (01:54:28):
If you could spend one day with a coach that
didn't coach football, who would it be and why they
can be active, they could be retired, they could be deceased.

Speaker 13 (01:54:39):
Any any coach in the history. Probably John Wooden, Yeah, right,
Like I mean, Geno, what he's doing right now is
super impressive, right, But I wouldn't. It's got a lot
a lot of books and a lot of things that
you know, kind of speak to me, right. The way
he coached how he did it, maybe a little different
perspective of the game.

Speaker 2 (01:54:55):
So yeah, he's probably one that falls in that category.

Speaker 8 (01:54:57):
He seems like a because I love John Wooden Find
your Broom. Yeah, it's like every day he's the one
that sweeping the gym the ship and he tells his
players find your broom.

Speaker 3 (01:55:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:55:07):
I feel like Coach Landing is a find your broom coach.

Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
What's been What's been a recent book of viewers that
has grabbed at.

Speaker 13 (01:55:13):
I've done a poor job reading this this offseason, like
post Spring, because what was the book last year we
were in I mean we read The Art of War
soun Sue. That was one of the ones that's always classics,
that's an easy read. So got to pick up some
new material. It's time to hop back into something. I
always like the Ryan Holiday books.

Speaker 2 (01:55:31):
I'm a huge fan.

Speaker 13 (01:55:33):
Uh like The Tipping Point, Malcolm Gladwell books, like I
think they kind of put science behind events that happened
in history. I think Malcolm Gladwell is definitely a fun
one for me to read.

Speaker 6 (01:55:45):
The uh you hope by the Balance. I just want
to know that the family, the family dynamic you talk
about all the sacrifices tooked to earlier, Like, how intentionally
are you now about having some balance in your life
with family and work?

Speaker 13 (01:55:57):
Yeah, so it definitely still doesn't exist. Right, There still
isn't balance, but when there is, like when we have time.

Speaker 2 (01:56:02):
We're very intentional.

Speaker 3 (01:56:03):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (01:56:03):
Have you guys ever seen the movie pay It Forward?

Speaker 13 (01:56:07):
Completely underrated movie, Kevin Spacey, Holly Haley, Joel alright, I
think it's Haley. I think I was in sixth sense
little kids. Like last night we got home, it was eight.
Generally the boys go to bed at like nine thirty ish, right,
and I said, we're staying up. We're watching the movie
we watch paid for. They've never seen it, Like, I'm
the movie guy in our house. I'm so it might
be an intentional thing like that. Obviously we're all sitting

(01:56:29):
on the couch, not necessarily talking, but when we have
an opportunity.

Speaker 3 (01:56:31):
But yeah, watch with my dad to stay up late,
watch a movie.

Speaker 2 (01:56:36):
Yeah, let's stay up late and Pay It Forward.

Speaker 13 (01:56:39):
Have you seen if you haven't seen it, Rotten Tomatoes
has it listed way too low.

Speaker 2 (01:56:43):
Great movie, great movie.

Speaker 6 (01:56:45):
Yeah, that's a tear jer movie.

Speaker 3 (01:56:47):
Guy.

Speaker 2 (01:56:48):
Yeah, Rod, they don't know what they're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:56:50):
They don't know what they're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:56:52):
Sometimes they don't. Sometimes they get it wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:56:53):
Do you watch Severs? I haven't.

Speaker 13 (01:56:55):
It was okay, so I started. It took me some
time here, I'm not yeah, not caught up.

Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
I kind of bailed.

Speaker 3 (01:57:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:57:02):
Do I need to recommit to it?

Speaker 3 (01:57:04):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (01:57:05):
But I think in your line of work it would
be really hard to because it's one of those It's
one of those shows that you have to be There's
so many theories that are going on.

Speaker 3 (01:57:12):
Did you watch Game of Thrones? I did.

Speaker 2 (01:57:14):
That was during COVID. That was like convenient.

Speaker 1 (01:57:16):
Yeah, but you know all the storylines that are happening
in Game of Thrones and then all the theories that
would take place to where you talk with your boys
at work or talking with whoever's watching Game of Thrones
at the time. Severance is like that, So you need
you need to have some dedicated time.

Speaker 13 (01:57:27):
To The one I liked most recently is the Billy
Bob Thornton one h Oh, the the Man.

Speaker 6 (01:57:35):
I've seen a couple of clips on YouTube that's definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:57:38):
Anybody that hasn't watched it, lamb Man's the show?

Speaker 3 (01:57:40):
Check it out?

Speaker 2 (01:57:41):
Yeah, what's that shor No, was that like Jersey Shore?

Speaker 3 (01:57:46):
What is that?

Speaker 6 (01:57:48):
Pretty awesome? To hockey show?

Speaker 2 (01:57:49):
Hockey show.

Speaker 6 (01:57:50):
This guy named Jered Kizo he started a YouTube channel
called letter Kenny and it used to be like these
common problems in small town Canada. He has a spinoff
character and it named Shores. You don't see his face
because Kizil plays the main character and he plays Schorsy.
He's like a ship talking junior hockey guy. But the episodes,
there's only six episodes per season. They're only twenty minutes each,
so it's a really fast watch, all right. And the

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show itself, it's like it's a decent storyline, but it's
very funny, like comedic jokes. Oh, the whole scene is
just about one run like one run on sentence that
is just joke after joke, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:58:20):
And then and what subscription service do I have to have?

Speaker 13 (01:58:24):
I don't have that one would I'm not ready to
commit to another subscription?

Speaker 3 (01:58:27):
Put you committed to a bronco? I did.

Speaker 2 (01:58:30):
I thought about it. I planned it out, like.

Speaker 3 (01:58:33):
What what subscriptions are in the landing household?

Speaker 13 (01:58:35):
I mean we got Netflix, we got Amazon Prime, right,
and I got the paramount because this Taylor Sheridan dude,
he just makes banger after banger after bank.

Speaker 3 (01:58:43):
Right, he's a Yellowstone guy. Yeah, Yellowstone, And you kind
of hate how the last season.

Speaker 2 (01:58:47):
I didn't watch the last season, so I fell out.
I fell out, you know, they kind of fell He's.

Speaker 6 (01:58:52):
Only committed to his family and his football team. It
sounds like he doesn't finish one show.

Speaker 13 (01:58:56):
I finished, man, legit, like here's what happens, Here's what
coaching is. And you guys know this, like you get
like a all right, you got spring break. I got
these like seven days or six days I.

Speaker 2 (01:59:07):
Could have, right, Instead, I hung out with a family.

Speaker 13 (01:59:10):
But I should have maybe, you know, maybe it should
have checked out trying to play Like those shows to
me are like late night kids are to bed.

Speaker 2 (01:59:16):
I'm gonna pop.

Speaker 13 (01:59:16):
I'm gonna hit like an hour show and I can.
And you got a window a time when you can
do it. If it's spring ball, you don't necessarily have
those windows. If it's fall camp, you're you know, you
don't always have the windows to catch a show.

Speaker 2 (01:59:26):
I'm not watching the show during football season.

Speaker 3 (01:59:29):
Yeah, right, So I.

Speaker 13 (01:59:30):
Don't know, maybe Yellowstone I feel like that that next
season came out maybe during football.

Speaker 3 (01:59:34):
Don't waste your time?

Speaker 2 (01:59:35):
Not ready for Okay, so I won't though.

Speaker 3 (01:59:39):
Watch So I'm I'm not gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:59:40):
Get Hulu though, maybe will you get Can I get
your subscription?

Speaker 3 (01:59:43):
I got you deal. So I'm assuming you don't play
Xbox I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:59:47):
We do have are with the boys.

Speaker 2 (01:59:51):
We have a we have a PS five at our house.

Speaker 3 (01:59:53):
We have a committee. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we.

Speaker 13 (01:59:55):
Have a we have a PS five. I think that's
what it's called PS five in our house. You know
that gets played. I I don't really get to play it,
but hold your boys fifteen, thirteen, and twelve.

Speaker 6 (02:00:03):
Oh yeah, so they're they're invested in the game, invested.
They play PUBG.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
What's that?

Speaker 6 (02:00:07):
Did they play PUBG?

Speaker 13 (02:00:08):
I don't know what games did they play? Minecraft's kind
of big one? And then uh, I think Rainbow six
is that is that? It's up my alley, that's up
my ass. So before it was was pretty hot, right yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:00:21):
Is that still a thing?

Speaker 3 (02:00:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:00:22):
Call of Duty's always hot, but Rainbow six is it's
a great game. No, it's not new, it's well.

Speaker 2 (02:00:27):
I know I remember that there was no one, but
that's kind of hot.

Speaker 1 (02:00:29):
Yeah, yeah, they've like built on like today, like this
day and age. They're always just doing add ons. Okay,
but Rainbow six is a great game. So tell your
boys are doing it right, all right.

Speaker 6 (02:00:37):
Red dev Redemption two, if your boys are into it?

Speaker 2 (02:00:40):
Okay, I cried, cried d in the video game, I cry.

Speaker 3 (02:00:43):
I cried, Oh there's.

Speaker 2 (02:00:44):
A showers is a video game? Video a video game
should during the video.

Speaker 6 (02:00:47):
Game coach all about to say, buddy, coach twenty twenty
was it two? I didn't my second ACL twenty twenty two?
I got my second A cl done. Might have been
because I knew the career was over. Might have been
a whole bunch of different things. But I had seven
eight days just me and my wife, and I played
this game start to finish. What was on me about
playing the game?

Speaker 3 (02:01:04):
It's great?

Speaker 6 (02:01:05):
I play this game start to finish. This guy named
Arthur Morgan like just a heartened outlaw. Right, you're a
gang in Old West. It's like late eighteen hundreds and
you're just working through and you're with this guy Dutch
Fandolin and the end of the game. Do you want
me to tell you the ending?

Speaker 2 (02:01:17):
I'm good with it.

Speaker 13 (02:01:18):
Yeah, Okay, I feel like I'm never gonna watch this
video game.

Speaker 3 (02:01:21):
Yeah, it's like, so I google it.

Speaker 6 (02:01:26):
Back then they didn't have a treatment for it. Trail
at the Air. Yeah, there there's always a spin bet,
there's always a call back to Orgon. This guy ends
up games perculosis, changes his life in the way and
saves his gang. But there's you can have like good
honor or bad honor, and based on how you treat
the game, that's how your ending goes. Buddy, I had
great honor, and I cried my eyes out when he died, cried,

(02:01:49):
took a break, had a snack, ate a meal, went
back to sleep, cuddling base spoitting my wife with an
acl brace on, recried about that situation. That's how intense
it was.

Speaker 1 (02:01:58):
Just type in Arthur Morgan death scene and you'll know
what Taylor cried to bless.

Speaker 2 (02:02:03):
I'll give it a look.

Speaker 3 (02:02:03):
Yeah, it's a short two minute you got.

Speaker 2 (02:02:05):
I got a lot of stuff on my list right now.

Speaker 3 (02:02:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:02:09):
Yeah, this has been I really do appreciate you. You gotta
hit the tear talk, I know, but I'm just letting
you know.

Speaker 3 (02:02:16):
Yes, you guys are incredible.

Speaker 2 (02:02:17):
Well we left Avenue all here, man.

Speaker 6 (02:02:19):
Let me ask you this would put you on the bust.

Speaker 3 (02:02:20):
With the boys, because I bet the bus I.

Speaker 6 (02:02:23):
Know, But how do.

Speaker 2 (02:02:25):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 13 (02:02:25):
I mean I I uh, I probably Twitter or somebody
stumbled upon it and then and then became a big fan.

Speaker 3 (02:02:31):
Man.

Speaker 13 (02:02:31):
Yeah, I just enjoy it. It's you guys are fun
to listen to. It's like it's like me being with
my buddies that I went to college with talking about
a show, you know what I mean, talking about and
talking about the stuff that you're interested in.

Speaker 2 (02:02:41):
You guys hit the stuff that it's fun.

Speaker 3 (02:02:43):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (02:02:45):
But yeah, I used to.

Speaker 13 (02:02:45):
I used to work out and I started probably on podcasts,
and I'd listened to you every single week putting in
your picks. And that's the.

Speaker 2 (02:02:54):
Show's not around anymore.

Speaker 3 (02:02:55):
He show's not around anyway.

Speaker 1 (02:02:59):
So well, if you're listening much, but this show killing it.

Speaker 2 (02:03:06):
Sometimes your best wins are your mistakes.

Speaker 3 (02:03:08):
Yeah, yeah, well said, well said.

Speaker 6 (02:03:11):
I hit him with the road. That is awesome. You
bet against the organ, didn't.

Speaker 2 (02:03:16):
I don't think you ever picked against us?

Speaker 1 (02:03:18):
No, it was never that. Like, you know, I'm always picking.
I'm always picking the brass every week.

Speaker 6 (02:03:22):
He's like, hey, buddy, We're never going to be mainstream
because we won't ever be unbiased.

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Back to the episode.

Speaker 6 (02:05:07):
Interesting tier talk, because it's like the tier talk we're doing,
presented by Row is best first Moves, So like I
don't know if I even have three in my back, That's.

Speaker 3 (02:05:16):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:05:17):
Yeah, even hearing best first Moves, I'm starting to shell
up because I'm putting myself in that moment.

Speaker 6 (02:05:22):
So Tier three shell up?

Speaker 3 (02:05:23):
Yeah, Tier two, Tier three go home.

Speaker 6 (02:05:27):
Tier two do you're often yeah, so you obviously you're
familiar with the show. However, I will explain it away.
Tier talk. We're gonna start at three, go to two
and one because this is a very unique tier talk.
We're just combined. We're gonna have three tiers. You say yours?
Will you say one, I'll say one and then and
then we'll order them best the worst. But the first move,
how are you gonna go? I think I got mine?

Speaker 3 (02:05:48):
Actually, go ahead. I hope you have too, because you
can take Okay, So.

Speaker 6 (02:05:52):
I think my rookie year I got on the tender
again started with the swipe game. Just a little bit
sneaky boy out there. I forgot fourteen fifteen. But one
of my moves was I would whatever match with the
girl or whatever, and then I would hit him with
the DM saying, explain to me your life and emojis,
and then they would just send me like twenty emojis
and then I would describe their life to them smooth,

(02:06:14):
and then that was that was my icebreaker.

Speaker 3 (02:06:16):
That's smooth.

Speaker 6 (02:06:17):
Yeah, that's a nice little move.

Speaker 1 (02:06:18):
Right, yeah, Hey, hey, that's kind of nice for the
listeners out there that might that's the kind of that's
a nice little deal.

Speaker 2 (02:06:26):
That's my old man.

Speaker 6 (02:06:27):
He's on the he's on the bumble and all that,
and my wife was on his little thing a couple
of nights ago. I'm thinking what kind of weird fucking
universe might living in? But I gave him that bag
and he immediately did it.

Speaker 3 (02:06:37):
That's awesome. Yeah, bro, I don't have any game.

Speaker 2 (02:06:40):
What worked on your wife? She didn't just like I mean.

Speaker 6 (02:06:44):
Well it would be good like with the hey yellowimming
your shirt? Boop, how you doing? We'll comp and get
to meet you.

Speaker 1 (02:06:50):
There really wasn't like a I'm telling you boys man
like like meeting my wife. I met her at a
football camp.

Speaker 3 (02:06:58):
You meet her at a football camp?

Speaker 6 (02:07:01):
What I thought there were there was some sliding going on.

Speaker 1 (02:07:04):
No, that was after the camp got so I talked
to her at the camp. Your story and it's not
like you know, I'm like, uh, what did I say?
You're going to get pizza? So that's number two because
we number two going to get Yeah, we had a break.
We had a we had a lunch break, and there's
pizza there and I'm like, hey, you're going to get pizza.
And I was like, where did you get that Pro
Bowl hat? And she's like the Pro Bowl?

Speaker 3 (02:07:26):
All right? I mean, did you exactly what you felt?
Sorry for you or maybe.

Speaker 6 (02:07:30):
But his old teeth will too?

Speaker 3 (02:07:32):
Been married?

Speaker 1 (02:07:33):
Now, later that night we've been married four years, four
years coming up on four coming up on four years,
and uh but later that night.

Speaker 3 (02:07:41):
She slid my d MS nice. Yeah yeah, so I mean,
who knows.

Speaker 1 (02:07:45):
I'm telling you it was not the pizza coming to
and I'm like, you know, okay, so how'd you get
all right? Did you go as a fan? She's like,
oh no, I cheer for you guys, Like okay, and
then it kind of, you know, kind of festered from there.
Little cat mouse for about nine months.

Speaker 2 (02:07:58):
There you go, cat mouse.

Speaker 3 (02:07:59):
For nine months. Yeah, took your boy a while, but
got it done.

Speaker 6 (02:08:03):
But here we are. I got two kids now.

Speaker 3 (02:08:06):
Yeah. Yeah, Pizza Friday. Yeah, call back to Pizza Friday.

Speaker 6 (02:08:11):
I'm excited to hear your Yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:08:12):
I don't know if it's very good. I mean, so
my wife and I we met it out back steakhouse.
I was a server. She she was to go grow
absolutely underrated. Kucka Bear Wings some of the best wings
you can get. Wallaby Darned.

Speaker 2 (02:08:23):
I remember you could give like.

Speaker 13 (02:08:24):
The samples of Wallaby darn to your table if they
wanted a sample to try it out.

Speaker 2 (02:08:28):
I go get a sample run of the back, slam it.

Speaker 3 (02:08:30):
You know.

Speaker 13 (02:08:31):
But you have a receipt paper, right, and I would
always write love letters, like with a call to action
item right on this receipt paper. So I'd be like, Sophia,
meet me by the bread oven at six pm, sharp, Casanova,
sign it right. We'd be serving our tables six pm.
We'd link up with the bread oven. You know, we'll kiss.

Speaker 2 (02:08:52):
I always tried to write like that, who you get
the kiss out the gate? My wife was definitely hard
to get.

Speaker 13 (02:09:00):
But I'm like, I mean, I try to be creative
with something that somebody else would do. Simple, right, So
like I made I remember Valentine's Day. This is probably
too far away. I mean, this is not the but
I would write a card right and on the front
of the car. It'd be like a contract, right, And
it's like if you open the contract, you actually see
what's written, but it is you know, hey, Sophia, I'm

(02:09:20):
seventeen or eighteen years old, right, you know, and she
kind of fills it out and then she signs her
signature at the end. Then you open it up and says,
Sofia will make love to Dan Lanning seventeen times tonight.

Speaker 3 (02:09:31):
You know, like.

Speaker 13 (02:09:34):
With you know how you piece it, you know, piece
it together. So yeah, I always try to do that
just a little bit different. Right, like best Valentine's advice,
I can get anybody. It's hard to book a restaurant, right,
hard to book a rest Cook it home, right, cook
it home. Cook for your wife, man that they will
appreciate that you cook the meal. You're not waiting in line.
You don't have to see other people. You can do

(02:09:54):
whatever her favorite dishes. Maybe while you're doing that, you
book somebody to give her a massage right there.

Speaker 2 (02:10:00):
You know, it's just just food for thigh.

Speaker 3 (02:10:02):
And he got some flavor.

Speaker 2 (02:10:05):
Be created with simple, Be created with simple, right, Like
my buddy.

Speaker 3 (02:10:09):
What's the go to meals? Like? You go ahead and cook?

Speaker 13 (02:10:12):
She likes salmon. She likes salmon, and for me, I
don't like salmon. So she knows that if I make
her salmon, like I really love her. Right because I'm
not I'm not gonna order samon. So if I'm cooking
salmon for us for Valentine's Day, it's like.

Speaker 6 (02:10:24):
Dang special day special.

Speaker 2 (02:10:26):
Yeah right, because I will never order sam. I'm a
steak guy. I'm never gonna order salmon.

Speaker 6 (02:10:29):
And when you get the roast, sparks rolling in its Yeah,
the roasts is like you know that Sam's being cooked
for multiple reasons.

Speaker 3 (02:10:35):
Yeah, like this thing will be active for a good
I don't even know what that is.

Speaker 6 (02:10:39):
What are you talking about.

Speaker 1 (02:10:41):
It's like a dissolvable you put under your tongue and
it'll be active for about the gotcha.

Speaker 2 (02:10:46):
It gives you juice? Yeah, it gives you juice.

Speaker 3 (02:10:49):
Man, I don't need it.

Speaker 6 (02:10:52):
It's about needing it. It's enhancing. Yeah, enhances longer.

Speaker 2 (02:10:56):
Do they sponsor you guys?

Speaker 3 (02:10:58):
Yeah, this is with this segment. Well we'll have to
cut that part, but yeah, this is the Yeah. Yeah,
it's like don't need it.

Speaker 2 (02:11:10):
Yeah, you're gonna have to cut that part out.

Speaker 6 (02:11:13):
I need it.

Speaker 2 (02:11:13):
I need it.

Speaker 3 (02:11:14):
Yeah, there you go. This has been awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:11:18):
Oh yeah, bud like question, you know how people will
do anything for a bud light? What is something that
Dan Lanning will do anything for.

Speaker 6 (02:11:28):
Kids and family.

Speaker 2 (02:11:29):
Ah, that's not fair.

Speaker 6 (02:11:31):
I mean Dale Earnhardt said family and it was beautiful. Yeah,
but it's taken.

Speaker 13 (02:11:35):
Now family's taken. I mean family is definitely number one
of the easy one.

Speaker 3 (02:11:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:11:40):
Absolutely. Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:11:43):
It was something ambitiously that you would do anything for
that ring?

Speaker 13 (02:11:47):
Man, that ring, That's that's one of those ones, you know.
I remember you guys asked Rabel if you would like
cut off something right.

Speaker 3 (02:11:53):
For for a Super Bowl? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:11:55):
I don't know if I'm willing to go that far right.
I'm I do have three kids, I'm not having any more.
But but that ring, what would you not do for that?
I mean that's a that's special feeling, a special moment.

Speaker 3 (02:12:04):
What would you cut off for a ring?

Speaker 2 (02:12:06):
Definitely? A pinky toe, definitely?

Speaker 3 (02:12:08):
You know some would you cut off your middle finger? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:12:10):
I don't use it on my left hand?

Speaker 3 (02:12:11):
What about your right ear? Entire right ear?

Speaker 13 (02:12:14):
Yeah, I'm fine with that. What would you would you not?
I mean I'm not coaching, if you were as a player,
would you not? I would cut off my right ear.

Speaker 2 (02:12:24):
Prosthetic? Yeah, maybe like a hairpin.

Speaker 3 (02:12:27):
It's a good question. I don't know if I'm not.

Speaker 2 (02:12:29):
I don't feel like I'm like vain, like when it
comes to like what do I you know? Yeah, do
you really need your right of here?

Speaker 3 (02:12:34):
I mean, you have a gash in the side of
your head.

Speaker 2 (02:12:37):
And it's a great story, great story.

Speaker 3 (02:12:39):
Would you now you kind of have me on board.

Speaker 2 (02:12:41):
Like it's just like it's a great story.

Speaker 8 (02:12:43):
Unique.

Speaker 3 (02:12:44):
Would you cut off your entire foot for the ring dode?

Speaker 6 (02:12:47):
There's still many advancements in science. Now you can for
sure do that.

Speaker 2 (02:12:50):
I need to evaluate it first. I need to see
the advancements.

Speaker 6 (02:12:53):
Foot strong could just yeah, wear pants strong.

Speaker 13 (02:12:55):
I'm trying to think all the things I still want
to be able to do right and I kind of
need my foot.

Speaker 2 (02:13:00):
Do you don't need a pinky toe?

Speaker 3 (02:13:01):
Do you ever want to be a coach in the NFL? No?

Speaker 2 (02:13:04):
You used to want to, used to want to.

Speaker 3 (02:13:06):
How why did that fizzle out?

Speaker 13 (02:13:08):
I just I think you figure out like we talked
about earlier, like where do you really fit?

Speaker 2 (02:13:11):
Like where like where's your you know your niche?

Speaker 13 (02:13:16):
And I do feel like this age group is like
the group that I'm I connect with unbelievably and then
more more than that, like I always think back that
it seems like everybody's always thinking about what's next, what's next,
what's next, And for me, like I'm more of the
thank you, Like I get to do this here, Like
I can't imagine going to do this somewhere else because
of the opportunity that the Organs give me. And then

(02:13:37):
so often everybody's like, well, I can go do this somewhere,
Like I want to do it here. I want to
make it happen here because they believe to me. Right,
it wasn't like I was a head coach coming from
somewhere else, you know. Here, I was a decordinator and
hadn't been a head coach, right, I coached the third
grade basketball team in high school, right, Like, so they
gave me an opportunity like why not do it here?

Speaker 2 (02:13:54):
So you know that's kind of you know, that's the piece.

Speaker 13 (02:13:57):
There's definitely a different quality of life, you know, appreciation,
Like in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (02:14:02):
They're not you know, recruiting and a lot of the things,
a lot of the hats that you wear.

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But every job's got pieces that you're not like in
love with, right, But this is a place that you know,
I love doing it.

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If you can see it organ forever.

Speaker 2 (02:14:13):
Yeah, I'd love to say it's my last job.

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And like I promised my kids, like when we came here,
like you're gonna get to graduate from the same middle school,
the same high school.

Speaker 2 (02:14:22):
Like my kids have lived in eight states, right, that's crazy.

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So like now, so for me, it's like it's not
even a thought, Like as long as we win, because
if I don't, if I don't hold up.

Speaker 2 (02:14:31):
That part, I won't be here.

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Yeah, as long as we win, Like I can't see
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