January 20, 2025 • 39 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler chats with Hugh Millen about the NFL playoffs last weekend including Jayden Daniels’ rise, Saquon Barkley, and the anticipated AFC title game coming up, then Soren Petro from Kansas City jumps on to talk about his Chiefs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right here Mellan rejoins us here and here we'll
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get back to the Bills game Kansas City matchup coming
up on Sunday. About Saquon, But how about your thoughts
on this kid, the rookie from LSU, Jade and Daniels,
the Commanders are a game away from the Super Bowl.
How about the job this rookie's doing, Man, unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Well, I've just been amazed at I think he's a
relatively late developer. I mean, just as an asterisk to
this when he got offered by Arizona State. Arizona State
offered a second quarterback in that same class. My son, Wow,
I've been kind of watching. Yeah, talk about divergent paths, right,
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But I you know, I'm on a text string with
a lot of Huskies, fifteen guys, some of whom you
know played you know, Jimmy Moore and Mark Pattison some others,
and none of us can remember Jade and Daniels having
any kind of impact at a Zona State. Like what
has transpired since he left Arizona State. And I think
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I think he ramped up certainly the intensity going to LSU.
I remember just thinking, is he sure he can win
the job at LSU. Well, that was obviously a misguided
concern from his perspective.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
He goes out and balls out.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
But he had two number one draft picks as wide receivers,
you know, including Malik Neighbors.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
You know, the seventh overall pick, and and.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yet in winning the Heisman, the guy just keeps ascending.
And now when you watch him as a rookie, he's
in the discussion for the best rookie quarterback of all time. Yeah,
and certainly Marino is probably the best that I can recall.
Marinos started kind of halfway through that year in eighty three,
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was you know, he got his chance on a Monday
night game against the Raiders, I can recall, and he
ended it with a playoff loss to Buffalo, albeit in
a really great performance. So they knew what they had,
but he didn't do what we're seeing from Daniels. I mean,
this guy, his poise, his passing ability, the comp has
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been Lamar Jackson, and I think, certainly as an athlete,
that's an apt comp. I just think he's a far
better passer. You just watch him throw the ball, and
he's got a beautiful passing motion in the kinetic chain.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I mean he snaps his hips. You know, it's a
quick release.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I think he just directs the football much better than
Lamar Jackson did, particularly at the same age.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Well where I mean, look, I mean we're waiting to
see a rookie quarterback play in the Super Bowl. You know,
nobody has ever won it, and a rookie quarterback has
never started one, you know, so people sometimes get confused
with Marino. He was in his second year and eighty four,
his first year and eighty three. It was the Raiders
that made it because they beat the Seahawks obviously in
the AFC Championship game. So he would be the first
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rookie ever to play in the game. You know, this
game though on side?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Are you sure that did Woodley? Was Woodley the quarterback
for the Dolphins in I think eighty two? Did he
Steven Woodley?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Let me look it up for you. I'll look it up.
David Woodley was a rookie.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
His first year in the NFL was in nineteen eighty Yeah, no, no,
nineteen eighty was.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
His first year. Oay, yeah, that would have been.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Okay, all right, I'm pretty damn sure no rookie has
ever made it, unless I'm totally missing something. I'm pretty
sure this would be the first guy to ever play
in the Super Bowl as a rookie. And look, I mean,
there's no reason why they can't beat Philadelphia. I mean,
the way Jalen Hurts is playing right now, obviously Dan
Quinn's gonna have to dial something up to stop Sakuon
Barkley and he listen, I gotta tell you, no disrespect
to Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, and those guys are phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
You want to give one him the MVP, that's fine,
go for it. Two things.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Number One, I'm wondering, like the Heisman Trophy, if we
should be waiting until the playoffs are over to wait
to vote on the MVP, or how about this for
an idea, at least announce it before the playoffs begin.
It feels really anticlimactic if somebody loses early to then
be giving out the MVP on the Saturday night before
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
And then number two, look Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
To me, I don't know if there's been a player
in the NFL that's had an impact on a football
team the way Saquon Barkley has. They were gonna fire
that guy. They're gonna fire Nick Cianni in Philadelphia. Fans
hated this dude and then to go out and get
Saquan and he saves his ass. If I told you
Saquan is the MVP of the NFL, could you make
an argument for it?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Sure you could.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
It just depends on how you value running backs versus quarterbacks, right,
I think there's in the history, it seemed like running
backs used to win it frequently and then now far
less frequently. Whether that's fair or not, but I think
it's it's you know, how do you compare itson like
apples to oranges, like apples to sofas, like you know.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
What, what do you value?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So but certainly anytime a guy hits two thousand yards,
of course he didn't play that last seventeenth game, so
you can compare that to the other guys that were
at two thousand yards, and of course OJ did it
in fourteen. But sure, Now, I would just say to me,
when I look and in my own feelings as a
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fan of the Seahawks and as an analyst, John Schneider
is under a brighter and brighter spotlight in my eyes,
and one of the reasons is when you look at
some of the gms that apparently have surpassed him, and
I would say, Howie Roseman or the Eagles is one
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of them. I mean, just look at all the decisions
they remade their secondary. You know, they took Jalen Carter,
a guy that I thought the Seahawks should have taken
at the fifth pick, and Jalen Carter's been awesome. Now,
I Am not going to decry that pick because I
love Witherspoon, but you know, they they lose they lose Kelsey.
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Jason Kelcey, the best center in the league. And here
just look up PFF number one rated offensive line.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
In all football. It's the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
They got a g Brown on one side, who they
traded for as a receiver. They got DeVante Smith on
the other that they drafted Dallas Goddard. It seems like
whether they acquire guys in free agency or whether they
draft them, that is just an immensely talented team. They
shore up their weaknesses early. I think the quarterback is
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the worst part of their football team, right. I mean,
that's the luckiest dude that's been under the center for
a long damn time. When you consider all the attributes.
I decided, you know, great defense, the best offensive line,
great receivers, tight end, Taquon Barkley, the whole nine yards.
But yeah, I think the impact that Barkley is as
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as broad is undeniable.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Well, BFF offensive line ranks of the four teams that
are left, Philadelphia's number one, Buffalo's number five, Chiefs are
number seven, and the Commanders are number ten. I mean,
it's no surprise, man, I mean, this is not new
to anybody around here that the offensive line is woefully
behind the rest of the nf fall as far as
competing for a championship. And I think now, I mean
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because you brought the Seahawks into it. I think there's
only three teams in the NFC that have a longer
conference championship appearance drought than the Seahawks do. I mean,
all of a sudden, it's been eleven years since they
played the Packers in that game. Chicago, Dallas, and I
think Arizona are the three teams that have the longer
streak or drought than the Seahawks do.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
So they got to pick it up. Man, There's no
doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
But dude, talk to me about going back just for
a second to that Lions game on Saturday night. I
felt so freaking bad for Lion fans. I know a
lot of people don't feel bad for him. You know,
I know Dick's not a big fan of Dan Campbell.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
You know why.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I really don't have any idea, but he's not a
big fan of Dan Campbell. But never having been to
a Super Bowl, never having hosted a conference championship game.
You look at their defensive depth chart in a lot
of ways, it was even a freaking miracle they were
in the game against the Commanders on Saturday night. Did
you find yourself kind of having, for lack of a
better word, a little bit of empathy for Lion Nation
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on Saturday Night?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, immeasurably. I was all in on Detroit.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I think as long as I've been an NFL fan,
the lines have just been sorry. The one one distinguishing well,
there's been two distinguishing aspects of their franchise. One they
play on Thanksgiving and two Barry Sanders. What else can
you say about them?
Speaker 4 (08:23):
That's about it?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
And and and I didn't I didn't know it was
that it was possible to dislike Dan Campbell like I
would think that'd be you'd be on an island of
one if you don't like Dan Campbell, but you know, hey,
you know what you fan, how you want a fan.
But I would just think he would be using universally admired.
He's an accountable guy. I think the job that he's
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done in terms of the culture change again from a
absolutely you know, just Dead Dead and Walking Dead franchise,
and the way he has revitalized them. I don't even
know if you can use the word revive, because they
haven't won a world title since what the nineteen fifty seven,
so there's not much re of anything.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
In comparative terms, you know, compared to where they were
already showing up.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, yeah, but I mean revitalized implies that they were
once vitalized, and I don't know that. I don't ever
remember the Lions being vitalized, So I don't know how
you can revitalize. I think he just built them, uh,
I you know, unless you can remember nineteen fifty seven.
To me, he did that. He built that thing from scratch.
So so I think he's been you know, just a
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breath of fresh air and and and obviously has found
a way to connect with those guys. But but you know,
the the losses on defense, I mean Aiden Hutchinson. You
look at the the advanced UH saber metricians and and
and their assessment of where Aiden Hutchinson was. For example,
I remember seeing UH the NFL win rate for all
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edged players and Hutchinson.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
The gap.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Not only was he number one, he was about twenty
percentage points higher than number two. The gap between one
and two is bigger than the gap between two and
fifteen or something. I mean, it was just incredibly still
the number one edge defender by PFF. I mean, this
guy was the resounding, unequivocal, undisputed defensive player of the year.
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Halfway through the season they lose him. But it's not
just him. You know, their entire depth chart has has
red lines all through it. So I think it's more
remarkable it really. I think as a fan, you look
and you say that, remember that that the final game
against the Vikings for all the Marbles to win the
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NFC North, and we thought it was going to be competitive.
And what Detroit did defensively with Aaron Glenn their defensive
coordinator and styming. How many sacks did Sam Darnold have
in that wasn't it nine sacks?
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
For them to create that and to play that well,
it seemed like, okay, somehow Aaron Glenn has just found
some crazy secret sauce defensively on the basis of that
dominance against the Vikings and it just was nowhere against
the Commanders.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, and then you know, now the word came out
today that Ben Johnson's the new coach of the Bears
taken off Detroit, and you know, you wonder what that
means for Hank Fraley, who's their offensive line coach, was
rumored to be in the mix for the Seahawks O
seed job. They may just bump him up and who knows,
let him call plays in Detroit. I have no idea,
but you just kind of start to wonder, is the
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window starting to close for the Lions if they lose
both Aaron Glenn and Ben Johnson? How much does that
close the window you think on their Super Bowl aspirations.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I don't know who they're going to replace him with.
I think certainly Ben Johnson is the more valued of
those two. It's hard to say with Aaron Glenn because again,
he he lost so many guys.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
But there's a lot of continuity.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I mean, I think both those guys were the coordinators
from the jump, and even when the Lions really struggled defensively,
they stuck with it. But then they just made, you know,
slowly made acquisitions. They filled their holes, you know, you know,
their their secondary was kind of last piece.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Defensively.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
They got Carlton Davis from Tampa Bay and and he,
you know, instantly became their number one corner. I mean,
they they just made a lot of good decisions on
both sides of the ball. They have a young offensive
line led by Penny Sewell, the right tackle, you know,
arguably the best lineman in football. But they got you know,
young receivers. They and and they got young running backs.
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I still think the parts are there. Now we'll see
if they have the intellectual horsepower and whether or not
they can have a guy as creative as Ben Johnson
offensive well.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
And there's a report out by the way Florio actually
threw it out there, there's rumors going around the NFL
grapevine that the Bears are gonna pay Benjoons some thirteen
million dollars a year, which is just insane for a
first year head coach in the national football to be
making that kind of money, But maybe that's what it'll
take to put up with Caleb Williams. I got no idea,
but Humillain's with us for a couple more segments. Sarren
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Petro's gonna join us from Kansas City at five point
forty five, and then we'll talk some baseball with Booney
Brett Boone coming up at six, Lorenzo Romar joining us
around six thirty or so.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
I do want to go back to the conversation we had.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I know we talked about the Mark Andrews drop last segment,
but I do want to go back to kind of
what you saw from Buffalo, what you saw from Josh
Allen in that game. I know we're talking off the
air about the weapon that he is near the goal line,
the fact that you can literally drag players across the
goal line, push players across the goal line. When that
player is Josh Allen, Hugh, that just seems massively unfair
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and unstoppable.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
It does seem kind of unfair that the Bills opponents
have to play against an actual Buffalo, right and Josh Allen, right, yeah, yeah,
you know, particularly down there now, I don't like the
tush push. I think it should be outlawed. It was
never part of football for most of my life, and
I don't understand how it's become a thing. And obviously
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it's a thing with the Eagles, and it's become more
of a thing with the Bills.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
But but yeah, Josh Allen, as long as they allow it,
it's a weapon. I think that they should have used
it down on the goal line and a chance. You
know that last drive there where they kicked the field
goal when they didn't get anything from two yard, you know,
third and two, I think they should.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Have just snuck it twice. But yeah, I am concerned.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
However, there was a conservativism a play not to lose
mentality by Sean McDermott. I mean, the idea that Alan
only had one hundred and twenty seven yards passing seems
a little concerning. I don't think they can bring that
mindset into Kansas City. I think Josh Allen's going to
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have to be you know, north to two hundred yards
at least in that game. So but you know, maybe
they just played it and they could see what you know,
they had the twenty one to ten lead at halftime,
and and maybe they got conservative there, but I feel
like they need more from the potential MVP.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
And Allen, Well, let me ask you this, who would
you rather have starting for your football team? And I
realize it's also about what you got around you, but
would you rather have Josh Allen over Patrick Mahomes at
this point in time, even though Mahomes is at home?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
No, I think Mahomes is proven that he just can
pull rabbits out of his hat. He's you know, he's
gonna get at least two fifteen yard penalties, so I
just know that going into the game right that there's
going to be a roughing. So somehow he's on the
living on the right side of the league because they
protect him.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
But you think that's row I was protected like that,
because there's a lot of people that are complaining about that,
by the way, because here, you know, as well as
I superstars at all sports, NB football, they get calls.
That's just the way things go. They get calls, and
the Chiefs seem to be getting a lot of calls
right now, so much to a point where a lot
of people this is a huge talking point around the
Country's a bother you.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
It does bother me those penalties, And it's been been
building all through the year, but those penalties on Saturday,
I think they were absurd.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I mean it's football. I mean, come on, it's freaking football.
Like like you.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I hate to say back when I played, because I
was mostly just holding the clipboard, I wasn't gonna get hurt.
But on the occasions that I was on the field, man,
you take a you take.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
A face to face hit.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
And if I turned around and look at the ref
like hey, penalty, you look at me, what's the and problem?
You're wearing a helmet like like there was no protection. Now,
I think that they have done well to recognize that
there's an emerging health concern. And and so I think
the most egregious yeah hits the ones that just look criminal. Yeah, fine,
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drop a flag. But there's a term called glancing an
incidental as opposed to forcible. Every anytime you start using
those words, that means it's judgment, that means there's gray
area that's a relative. One man's uh uh uh forceful
conduct could be another man's glancing and incidental. And so
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I think there's an inconsistency that I don't like. And
I think it's applied clearly with bias to uh, to
Pat Mahomes and uh. I I'll just quote Troy Aikman.
I mean, he's got a lot more weight in his
voice than me. But he just said this is absurd.
I could not disagree more. Did he say word for word? Yes,
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that that line. I could not disagree more than on
that penalty. I think they're absurd and uh and you
know there I don't know. I just think there's a
bunch of snowflakes that are running these decisions. And there
they are in feebling the game. They are, which is
another way saying the wissification. And these are grown men
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that you know, some guys like to get in an octagon,
like guys like to repel down mountain. Some guys like
to you know, you know, Pat Tillman likes to to
instead of running down on kickoffs, he wants to go
get carved up in a war like. People can make
their decisions, and this game is a violent game. People
play it out of their own choice. And they have
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gone way too far in my opinion, in protecting guys,
particularly the quarterbacks and particularly Pat Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well, Josh Allen and Buffalo and what is it three
of the last four years, I believe, if I'm not mistaken,
their season has ended at the hands of the Kansas
City Chiefs. And you gotta kind of wonder if they
can't get him right now with the Chiefs team that's
been pushed to the limit by almost everybody they've played
this year, they play a lot of fourth quarter games.
If they can't get him this year, when is it
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ever gonna happen?
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Man?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
And I wonder how much of that is kind of
eating at Josh Allen and how much he will be
kind of preoccupied with that. I mean, we got about
a minute left in the segment. Tell me about that
if you were if you were a quarterback and you
played the position, we got like forty five seconds left.
How much would that keep you up at night that
Patrick Mahomes is once again standing in your way?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Oh, it would haunt me.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
And I'll tell you the one that would haunt me
is after the twenty twenty one season. Yeah, David, this
is the greatest game I've ever seen by a quarterback
in a losing effort in the playoffs, and that includes
Tom Brady in the Super Bowl against the Eagles when
he threw for five hundred and five yards, which was
not only a Super Bowl record, a playoff record, But
in that game Brady fumbled midway through the fourth quarter
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at a critical time.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
The game that.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Allen had at Kansas City twenty seven to thirty seven,
three hundred and twenty nine yards, four touchdowns, no picks,
a passer rating of one thirty six and sixty eight
yards rushing with countless first downs.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
That I literally put that team on his back.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Two drives of seventy yards or more in the second
half of the fourth quarter. Like he did everything he
could to win that game, and thirteen seconds was was
too much yeap to allow Mahomes and you just go,
oh my god, what do I gotta do?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Right?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
So, yeah, it's it's a it's a it's a millstone
around his neck that he's gonna.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Just have to, yep, shake off with Elway. Elway. I
played with the Elway.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
He had the same type of a deal after having
lost three Super Bowls, but then he finally won two.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Well, if if Josh Allen doesn't get it done this Sunday,
I mean him and Lamar you know, are both going
to have that millstone hanging around their neck, and Lamar
still has it right now. But there's a lot of
there's a lot of similarities to here between Lamar Jackson
and Peyton Manning. You may not know what the hell
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Speaker 4 (21:10):
It's almost hard to even fathom.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
He was seven consecutive conference championship appearances now for Kansas
City and Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes. You think about
the overtime loss to the Patriots, the close loss to Cincinnati,
Chris Jones jumping off sides that that's how close the
Chiefs are to maybe playing in six streat Super Bowls
and if they win this game on Sunday seven. But
I want to get your thoughts on Lamar Jackson in
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just a second, because obviously this guy is now tagged
with the label I can't win the big one. But
we talked briefly last segment about Saquon Barkley and the
game the guy had over the weekend. Obviously he's carrying
that freaking football team. The guy at two hundred and
five yards, a couple of touchdowns. He averages almost eight
yards per run. One of the better playoff performances I've
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ever seen from a running back man.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, and I think that there was definitely weather aided.
You kind of watch how this in both those long runs,
the seventy eight yard or and the sixty two yarder.
You had two different cams from a RAM perspective. One
was Cam Kitchen's free safety. He takes a poor angle,
then he gets I don't know if he got bench
or whatever, but then Cam cruel. He was also a
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free safety. You're playing center field there. Anytime you have
a run more than about ten yards, you can blame
it on a safety like that.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
It's his job.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
You just go on a whiteboard and you say, okay,
how are we going to block this? You run out
of blockers and you never assigned somebody to a post safety.
He's got a he's unblocked, he's got to make the tackle.
But you know, there's a soundness that you have to
have when you're going against sa Quon On a sixty
two yarder that he had to the right side of
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the Eagle line, there were no defensive linemen to the
either over or to the left of the center. From
the ram perspective, there's two linebackers and two dbs, and
the Eagle line is just tossing guys out of the
way because they just had no growth, literally no defensive lineman.
And then on the seventy eight yard that was just
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a split zone inside zone run. Jared Verse, who's had
a great year. What was he the nineteenth pick the
out of Florida State and he's been somebody we've kept
an eye on because the Seahawks could have had him
instead of Byron Murphy. I'm not saying that they should have,
but burse had the better year of the two he
on this plague.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Can I jump in for a quick second.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I mean, I know this is a total detour, but
who would you rather have Jalen Carter and Jared Verse
on your defensive line or Devin Witherspoon and your secondary
and Byron Murphy because you could have had both.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, I think a hell of an argument could be
made for Jalen Carter and Jared Verse. But look, the
last guy I'm gonna start to bail on is Witherspoon.
I just love that guy's competitiveness and I just can't
bring myself to criticize him. But there was some fundamental
breakdowns and then again aided by safeties. Everybody has at
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some point or another in their life walked on ice
on with tennis shoes no skates, right, And you know
that's what those safeties look like.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
They were just like they take these bad.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Angles and we're like, who whoo whoo, and they were
just more concerned about falling than they were about getting
to the right spot. And you know when Saquon, his
speed just kind of creates different angles for you.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
So I don't know, I'm just looking at.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Those runs, right, that Barkley had the sixty two yard
of the seventy eight yard.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Or really really fundamental breakdowns and so you know you're
gonna beat the.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Eagles with that guy, you gotta at least be sound,
you know, like get beat for the right reasons.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Don't get beat because you're unsound.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, well, I'm looking at Lamar Jackson going back to
the Ravens bills for a second, and look, obviously he
had the fumble.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
O obviously he had the interception.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
You know, we can get your thoughts on what happened
that on that pick in a second. But I didn't
feel like the Ravens lost the game because Lamar Jackson
played terrible football.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
I think he played well enough for them to win.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
And if Mark Andrews catches that two point conversion, who knows.
But whether it's fair or unfair, Hugh, and you know,
the life of a quarterback in the NFL, it's not
really up to you to decide what's fair and what's
not fair. He's got that label if can't win the
big one. And you remember there was a time when
Peyton Manning had that label too. Remember when he finally
beat Brady in Indianapolis When I think it was that
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was that Marlon Jackson had the interception for the Colts
and Bob Lamey goes bananas. You know, Marlin's got it
regard to the Super Bowl, and Peyton Manning finally was
able to get there and win. But first seven years
in the NFL, Lamar Jackson Peyton Manning were multi time MVPs,
both three and five in the playoffs, and neither one
had been.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
To a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Do you feel pretty good in saying that Lamar Jackson
one day is going to finally get there breakthrough?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Do I feel good?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I would say probably if I had, But but I
don't think there's anything if Dan Marino could not get
back to the Super Bowls right after year two, any
you know, there's there's been a lot of good ones.
I would just say this, Look, Lamar Jackson had one
hundred and fourteen passer rating and you know two hundred
and fifty yards.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
That's gonna escape scrutiny, right, But if you're talking.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
About all the details on all the plays that define
winning and losing, that two point play that preceded not
the you know, the infamous one that Andrews drop, but
the one prior to that. He had the bills in
man to man coverage and Isaiah likely the tight end
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was running as a shallow cross. They get a pick
in man coverage and twenty four coal Bishop is he's
the guy in man coverage on leg he falls on
his face, he goes sliding on the snow like he's like,
like it was intentional. It was wide open. And if
you're in a quarterback meeting room, every quarterback meeting room
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in in the NFL, you would say, like if that
was a let's say August practice and preseason, you were
just like, dude, just you gotta just you know, trajectory,
throw it like a free throw. Just lob it over
the defensive end because there's nobody out. It's not zone
coverage with.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Some flat defender on the opposite side.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
It's man with nobody out there, nobody and the guy
chasing your guy fell down. So so the the idea
that Jackson would throw that out in the low trajectory
and Milano bats it down at the line.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
You remember that.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Play, of course, like, yeah, you had the Derrick Henry
up the sideline. I was a little bit behind him
and that was dropped. That was in the first series.
Now they scored on that, but but that may have
impacted the Obviously, the fumble in the second quarter has
got to protect the ball.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
The interception on the second series.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
We're all talking about some of the plays from Lamar
Jackson the the interception in the second series.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
A corner route.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
He threw that so errantly that you almost wonder if
there was a miscommunication. I was kind of eager to
look at the coaches tape this morning. I looked at
it and I said, wait a minute, if you know
that that's a common route combination what's called smash a
corner to the end of the boundary with a guy
in the flat, and then you had inbreaking routes coming
from the field side. It had all the signs of
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everybody running the correct route, and uh and and just
simple case of of Lamar Jackson throwing that ball way
too far to the inside. And even if you were
to pose it that, let's make the assumption that that
what was it was Sean Bateman ran the wrong route.
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You say, well, that is so bad that he must
have ran the wrong route. Okay, let's just let's just
make that assumption. You still are left with our buddy
Taylor rap was playing free safety, and he came over
and easily intercepted the ball, and so had had the
receiver done something different, which I contend he should not have,
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I think he ran the correct route. But if I
try and pose it that he ran the wrong route,
You're still left with the idea that Taylor rap came
over and you know, could have waived like a fair
catch on that interception. So so the ball would have
been contested or or Bateman would have got blown up
or have been intercepted even if he had run a
different route, because he had a defender right there ready
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to make a play. So I just think that that
that has a double minus that falls on mar Jackson. Look,
I think he's a hell of a player, probably a
Hall of Famer, you know, I think he's accountable and
and he's breathtaking certainly in his athleticism. But this when
you make plays like that. I just mentioned a handful
of plays that are difference between winning and losing. And
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we talked in the you know, prior segment about how
it could have been a better throw on the Andrews
two point although it was you know, honest say, for
the ump team time, it was definitely a drop. The
majority of the vast majority of the fault goes on Andrews.
But you know, you know, they're those handful half a
dozen plays that's that you you you play a little
bit better quarterbacking for the Ravens, and the Ravens win
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that game.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
No question. All right, let's do this. We'll give you
a little break.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
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Chiefs and the seventh straight conference championship game, which is
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Speaker 5 (30:36):
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Speaker 1 (30:47):
All right, boys and girls, we are back here at
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We got Ohio State, Notre Dame, got NBA, got the NHL.
Back in studio tomorrow at three with the Hall of
Fame announcement. He is he going to be a first
ballot Hall of Famer? I would think so. The only
question is really been unanimous or not. We'll find out
around three o'clock tomorrow. But I'll tell you what that's
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of No concern to people in Kansas City because they
are getting ready to.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Do something on Sunday that I'm.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Assuming growing up as a kid, and even when he
got into this crazy business decades ago, Saren Petro of
WHB never thought possible. And that as a seventh consecutive
trip to the AFC Championship Game, Saren, if I would
have told you fifteen twenty years ago that your beloved
Kansas City Chiefs would be in the conference title game
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seven years in a row, you would have said, what
back to me, you're.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
On crack down the pipe? What are you thinking there? Yeah,
absolutely not. I mean you're talking about a franchise. They
named the trophy for winning the AFC Championship Game the
Lamar Hunt Trophy, and for a long long time, I said, look,
forget about winning a Super Bowl. This team just needs
to get the Lamara Hunt Trophy. They named the trophy
after their owner, the founder of the AFL, and they've
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never even possess that trophy. Forget about Vince Lombardi. Let's
take it, baby steps, Let's win the Lamar Hunt Trophy
once first. Now to have played for it seven consecutive
years is amazing.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Well, and look it's incredible how close this team is
to actually making the Super Bowl seven consecutive years in
a row. You think about that six point loss to Brady,
you think about the three point loss to the Bengals, obviously,
but this run that you're on right now, it feels
different because you've got fifteen wins, which is the most
Enfranchise history. But you're struggling to close every game out.
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But that's the talent, right to find a way to
win when you're maybe not at your best is a talent.
So how did this particular version of Chief Football pull
it off compared to all those other teams that Andy
Reid and Patrick Mahomes have been a part of.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
Yeah, it is one of the more impressive runs, I
think because of the things they've been up against, because
you know, help wise, I mean injury wise, they lost
Raschi Rice early, Hollywood Brown, they lost in the first
preseason game, didn't get in back until the last few
games of the year. They missed the first I think
ten or twelve games with Charles lemene who who blew
out his knee, and the nfcg or AFC championship game
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last year. So they've had key pieces. They've been out.
Jalen Watson went down about week five or six, as
they have, but Checko went down around week three or four.
They've lost a lot of guys and they kept winning,
and I think, you know, just being down on talent
was one of the reasons why they were winning all
those games so closely. And now as they've come down
the stretch, you know, they beat Cleveland whatever that's worth,
by two touchdowns. They handled business against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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Against the Houston Texans, they won by eight against the Texans,
and Kareem Hunt slid down at about the five yard
line to run out the clock instead of punching in
a touchdown that would have made it fifteen. It was
fourteen over the Steelers. And then this one I think
ends up being what was it nine when it's all
said and done, It was eleven before they took the
safety at the end. So they have been having their
most impressive wins here of late, and I think it's
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because they're starting to get some of those players back.
Everyone butt Roschie Rice that I mentioned is now back
the Chiefs, and I think that makes them a tougher
receiving core to handle. It makes them a much tougher
defensive line to handle, just because everybody. They now have
depth of guys that can come out for the quarterback.
And I think that was one of the things that
really showed against the Texans eight sacks on CJ. Stroud,
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And they had really been down from their sack to
where they were number two in the NFL last year,
and over the last five or six games, they're getting
back to looking like the team that really harassed the
quarterback last year.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Well, SIRH Petro with us WHB Chiefs Bengals, the Chiefs
Bill Sorry Sunday three point thirty and the AFC Championship
willkerry both those games of course right here on ninety
three to three KJRFM. And look, man, I remember just
watching the parade, the crowd sizes for the Patriot parades
as they picked up four, five, six championships, and they
would get smaller and smaller and smaller. Honestly, is this
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getting kind of, for lack of a better word, boring.
Are people still as enthusiastic? Are they still is adamant
and fired up and drooling at the mouth just like
they were for number one back in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
I think they are. I mean, one of the things
that the Patriots had going was the Celtics were good
for part of that stretch. You know, the Bruins were
winning things, the Red Sox were winning things. The Royals
finally got good again last year and got back into
the playoffs for the first time since twenty fifteen. So
you know, there hasn't been as much competition for sports
fans here in Kansas City from the professional standpoint. But
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I mean there is an element like, listen, you know,
you're spoiled. There's no doubt if you eat pizza every day,
you're gonna love pizza, but you're not gonna get fired
up the way you did when you only had it,
you know, once a month. I mean, it just it
is a different mindset. It's an entitled mindset. It's a
spoiled mindset. People begin to complain about things that are
absolutely ridiculous, and you know that's where the fan base
is right now. They can afford to do it because
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the team keeps giving them more and more to enjoy.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
When you hear people complain about all the calls that
Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs get, does that bother you
is a bother chief fans.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
I bothered Chiefs fans a lot. It shouldn't. I mean,
it was one of the AP writers put it out
there that Chiefs have actually been penalized for two hundred
more yards since Patrick Mahomes has been the starting quarterback
for two hundred more yards than their opposition in the playoffs,
and that, you know, I saw that out on Twitter
and there were respons like but yeah, but it's when
the calls come like okay, like you're never gonna make
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everybody happy on that kind of thing. Chiefs fans, we
told them a long time ago. Look, everybody loves you
here in twenty eighteen because Patrick Mahomes ain't Tom Brady,
he's new, You're fresh. But if you start winning championships,
they're gonna view you the same way they view the
New England Patriots. And what you got to do is
embrace wearing the black hat, roll into town, drink their whiskey,
take their women, and enjoy the victors. Enjoy the victories
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because it's no one's going to be on your side anymore.
And I think you know, because it's coming right after
the Patriots, and they remember how much they hated the
Patriots and felt the same way that you know, the
Patriots got all the calls that they understand it a
little better than maybe some other fan bases would. But no,
it's still upset y.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Well, let's say, by all accounts, a toss up man
on Sunday right with Buffalo. I mean, the Chiefs are
not even getting the obligatory three you know, and make
me nervous a little bit of fire. You the Kansas
City's perfect at home knock on wood. Buffalo obviously is
on a freaking mission. They have been for you know
what thirty five years now ever since losing four in
a row.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
What's your anxiety level like for Sunday's game, man, You
know it's not.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
High because one, if they don't win, I mean, for
God's sake, like I said, we've been spoiled. Like you know,
I can't complain they if they would lose in the
conference championship game. But you know, my feeling is the
better team is home. I think Baltimore was the better team.
They turned it over three times and had a chance
to tie it late. I think Baltimore was a team
that I would say can play lower than the Bills
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can play, but can also play higher and so I
actually feared the Ravens more than I feared the Bills.
I think the Bills are a great story. Josh Allen
is tough, but when they played Josh Allen, they hadn't
had Charles Amne who back, and they had zero sacks
on Josh Allen. They're gonna be able to pressure him
a lot better this time. I think that makes him
much more equipped on defense. Jalan Watson didn't play that game.
He came back in this last game, so their defensive
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backfield gets deeper. So this is the best version of
the Chiefs. I am concerned. I thought the passing game
looked poor. They've done a nice job of trying to
solidify the offensive line with Joe Toney left tackle, and
he is their best option in pass blocking. But they
really don't run the ball well anymore. So they're getting
kind of one dimensional. And so look, it's not perfect,
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but no one's perfect. When you have that big contract
for the quarterback, you're going to have to minimize your
weaknesses maximize your strengths. They found a way to do
it against Houston, they need to find a way to
do it against Buffalo. I think the spread's probably right.
I mean Patrick Mahomes is one of four against Josh
Allen in the regular season and three to zero in
the postseason. You know, he seems to always play his best.
He's one of a handful of quarterbacks whose passer rating
goes up in the postseason as tdd int goes way
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up in the postseason. He just seems to always rise
to the occasion.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Soren, great stuff.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Man, enjoy it while it lasts, because at some point
this run is going to come to an end. When
I got no freaking idea, but it's going to come
to an end at some point, man, So soak it up.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Have fun Sunday, and we'll talk down the road. Budy,
appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Man, Sophie, you the man. Thanks for having me brother, you.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Bet, Sir m Petro WHB Chiefs Bills. On Sunday, Phillies
Command of Philly. Philadelphia Commanders will go at noon Bill's
Kansas City at three thirty.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
We will get a break come back. Brett Boone's gonna
join us.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Talk about some baseball moves the Mariners have made and
a lot of moves they haven't made.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Next on ninety three to three KJRFM,
All right here Mellan rejoins us here and here we'll
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get back to the Bills game Kansas City matchup coming
up on Sunday. About Saquon, But how about your thoughts
on this kid, the rookie from LSU, Jade and Daniels,
the Commanders are a game away from the Super Bowl.
How about the job this rookie's doing, Man, unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Well, I've just been amazed at I think he's a
relatively late developer. I mean, just as an asterisk to
this when he got offered by Arizona State. Arizona State
offered a second quarterback in that same class. My son, Wow,
I've been kind of watching. Yeah, talk about divergent paths, right,
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But I you know, I'm on a text string with
a lot of Huskies, fifteen guys, some of whom you
know played you know, Jimmy Moore and Mark Pattison some others,
and none of us can remember Jade and Daniels having
any kind of impact at a Zona State. Like what
has transpired since he left Arizona State. And I think
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I think he ramped up certainly the intensity going to LSU.
I remember just thinking, is he sure he can win
the job at LSU. Well, that was obviously a misguided
concern from his perspective.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
He goes out and balls out.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
But he had two number one draft picks as wide receivers,
you know, including Malik Neighbors.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
You know, the seventh overall pick, and and.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yet in winning the Heisman, the guy just keeps ascending.
And now when you watch him as a rookie, he's
in the discussion for the best rookie quarterback of all time. Yeah,
and certainly Marino is probably the best that I can recall.
Marinos started kind of halfway through that year in eighty three,
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was you know, he got his chance on a Monday
night game against the Raiders, I can recall, and he
ended it with a playoff loss to Buffalo, albeit in
a really great performance. So they knew what they had,
but he didn't do what we're seeing from Daniels. I mean,
this guy, his poise, his passing ability, the comp has
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been Lamar Jackson, and I think, certainly as an athlete,
that's an apt comp. I just think he's a far
better passer. You just watch him throw the ball, and
he's got a beautiful passing motion in the kinetic chain.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I mean he snaps his hips. You know, it's a
quick release.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I think he just directs the football much better than
Lamar Jackson did, particularly at the same age.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Well where I mean, look, I mean we're waiting to
see a rookie quarterback play in the Super Bowl. You know,
nobody has ever won it, and a rookie quarterback has
never started one, you know, so people sometimes get confused
with Marino. He was in his second year and eighty four,
his first year and eighty three. It was the Raiders
that made it because they beat the Seahawks obviously in
the AFC Championship game. So he would be the first
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rookie ever to play in the game. You know, this
game though on side?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Are you sure that did Woodley? Was Woodley the quarterback
for the Dolphins in I think eighty two? Did he
Steven Woodley?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Let me look it up for you. I'll look it up.
David Woodley was a rookie.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
His first year in the NFL was in nineteen eighty Yeah, no, no,
nineteen eighty was.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
His first year. Oay, yeah, that would have been.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Okay, all right, I'm pretty damn sure no rookie has
ever made it, unless I'm totally missing something. I'm pretty
sure this would be the first guy to ever play
in the Super Bowl as a rookie. And look, I mean,
there's no reason why they can't beat Philadelphia. I mean,
the way Jalen Hurts is playing right now, obviously Dan
Quinn's gonna have to dial something up to stop Sakuon
Barkley and he listen, I gotta tell you, no disrespect
to Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, and those guys are phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
You want to give one him the MVP, that's fine,
go for it. Two things.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Number One, I'm wondering, like the Heisman Trophy, if we
should be waiting until the playoffs are over to wait
to vote on the MVP, or how about this for
an idea, at least announce it before the playoffs begin.
It feels really anticlimactic if somebody loses early to then
be giving out the MVP on the Saturday night before
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
And then number two, look Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
To me, I don't know if there's been a player
in the NFL that's had an impact on a football
team the way Saquon Barkley has. They were gonna fire
that guy. They're gonna fire Nick Cianni in Philadelphia. Fans
hated this dude and then to go out and get
Saquan and he saves his ass. If I told you
Saquan is the MVP of the NFL, could you make
an argument for it?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Sure you could.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
It just depends on how you value running backs versus quarterbacks, right,
I think there's in the history, it seemed like running
backs used to win it frequently and then now far
less frequently. Whether that's fair or not, but I think
it's it's you know, how do you compare itson like
apples to oranges, like apples to sofas, like you know.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
What, what do you value?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So but certainly anytime a guy hits two thousand yards,
of course he didn't play that last seventeenth game, so
you can compare that to the other guys that were
at two thousand yards, and of course OJ did it
in fourteen. But sure, Now, I would just say to me,
when I look and in my own feelings as a
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fan of the Seahawks and as an analyst, John Schneider
is under a brighter and brighter spotlight in my eyes,
and one of the reasons is when you look at
some of the gms that apparently have surpassed him, and
I would say, Howie Roseman or the Eagles is one
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of them. I mean, just look at all the decisions
they remade their secondary. You know, they took Jalen Carter,
a guy that I thought the Seahawks should have taken
at the fifth pick, and Jalen Carter's been awesome. Now,
I Am not going to decry that pick because I
love Witherspoon, but you know, they they lose they lose Kelsey.
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Jason Kelcey, the best center in the league. And here
just look up PFF number one rated offensive line.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
In all football. It's the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
They got a g Brown on one side, who they
traded for as a receiver. They got DeVante Smith on
the other that they drafted Dallas Goddard. It seems like
whether they acquire guys in free agency or whether they
draft them, that is just an immensely talented team. They
shore up their weaknesses early. I think the quarterback is
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the worst part of their football team, right. I mean,
that's the luckiest dude that's been under the center for
a long damn time. When you consider all the attributes.
I decided, you know, great defense, the best offensive line,
great receivers, tight end, Taquon Barkley, the whole nine yards.
But yeah, I think the impact that Barkley is as
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as broad is undeniable.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Well, BFF offensive line ranks of the four teams that
are left, Philadelphia's number one, Buffalo's number five, Chiefs are
number seven, and the Commanders are number ten. I mean,
it's no surprise, man, I mean, this is not new
to anybody around here that the offensive line is woefully
behind the rest of the nf fall as far as
competing for a championship. And I think now, I mean
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because you brought the Seahawks into it. I think there's
only three teams in the NFC that have a longer
conference championship appearance drought than the Seahawks do. I mean,
all of a sudden, it's been eleven years since they
played the Packers in that game. Chicago, Dallas, and I
think Arizona are the three teams that have the longer
streak or drought than the Seahawks do.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
So they got to pick it up. Man, There's no
doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
But dude, talk to me about going back just for
a second to that Lions game on Saturday night. I
felt so freaking bad for Lion fans. I know a
lot of people don't feel bad for him. You know,
I know Dick's not a big fan of Dan Campbell.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
You know why.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I really don't have any idea, but he's not a
big fan of Dan Campbell. But never having been to
a Super Bowl, never having hosted a conference championship game.
You look at their defensive depth chart in a lot
of ways, it was even a freaking miracle they were
in the game against the Commanders on Saturday night. Did
you find yourself kind of having, for lack of a
better word, a little bit of empathy for Lion Nation
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on Saturday Night?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, immeasurably. I was all in on Detroit.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I think as long as I've been an NFL fan,
the lines have just been sorry. The one one distinguishing well,
there's been two distinguishing aspects of their franchise. One they
play on Thanksgiving and two Barry Sanders. What else can
you say about them?
Speaker 4 (08:23):
That's about it?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
And and and I didn't I didn't know it was
that it was possible to dislike Dan Campbell like I
would think that'd be you'd be on an island of
one if you don't like Dan Campbell, but you know, hey,
you know what you fan, how you want a fan.
But I would just think he would be using universally admired.
He's an accountable guy. I think the job that he's
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done in terms of the culture change again from a
absolutely you know, just Dead Dead and Walking Dead franchise,
and the way he has revitalized them. I don't even
know if you can use the word revive, because they
haven't won a world title since what the nineteen fifty seven,
so there's not much re of anything.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
In comparative terms, you know, compared to where they were
already showing up.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, yeah, but I mean revitalized implies that they were
once vitalized, and I don't know that. I don't ever
remember the Lions being vitalized, So I don't know how
you can revitalize. I think he just built them, uh,
I you know, unless you can remember nineteen fifty seven.
To me, he did that. He built that thing from scratch.
So so I think he's been you know, just a
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breath of fresh air and and and obviously has found
a way to connect with those guys. But but you know,
the the losses on defense, I mean Aiden Hutchinson. You
look at the the advanced UH saber metricians and and
and their assessment of where Aiden Hutchinson was. For example,
I remember seeing UH the NFL win rate for all
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edged players and Hutchinson.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
The gap.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Not only was he number one, he was about twenty
percentage points higher than number two. The gap between one
and two is bigger than the gap between two and
fifteen or something. I mean, it was just incredibly still
the number one edge defender by PFF. I mean, this
guy was the resounding, unequivocal, undisputed defensive player of the year.
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Halfway through the season they lose him. But it's not
just him. You know, their entire depth chart has has
red lines all through it. So I think it's more
remarkable it really. I think as a fan, you look
and you say that, remember that that the final game
against the Vikings for all the Marbles to win the
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NFC North, and we thought it was going to be competitive.
And what Detroit did defensively with Aaron Glenn their defensive
coordinator and styming. How many sacks did Sam Darnold have
in that wasn't it nine sacks?
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
For them to create that and to play that well,
it seemed like, okay, somehow Aaron Glenn has just found
some crazy secret sauce defensively on the basis of that
dominance against the Vikings and it just was nowhere against
the Commanders.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, and then you know, now the word came out
today that Ben Johnson's the new coach of the Bears
taken off Detroit, and you know, you wonder what that
means for Hank Fraley, who's their offensive line coach, was
rumored to be in the mix for the Seahawks O
seed job. They may just bump him up and who knows,
let him call plays in Detroit. I have no idea,
but you just kind of start to wonder, is the
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window starting to close for the Lions if they lose
both Aaron Glenn and Ben Johnson? How much does that
close the window you think on their Super Bowl aspirations.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I don't know who they're going to replace him with.
I think certainly Ben Johnson is the more valued of
those two. It's hard to say with Aaron Glenn because again,
he he lost so many guys.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
But there's a lot of continuity.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I mean, I think both those guys were the coordinators
from the jump, and even when the Lions really struggled defensively,
they stuck with it. But then they just made, you know,
slowly made acquisitions. They filled their holes, you know, you know,
their their secondary was kind of last piece.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Defensively.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
They got Carlton Davis from Tampa Bay and and he,
you know, instantly became their number one corner. I mean,
they they just made a lot of good decisions on
both sides of the ball. They have a young offensive
line led by Penny Sewell, the right tackle, you know,
arguably the best lineman in football. But they got you know,
young receivers. They and and they got young running backs.
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I still think the parts are there. Now we'll see
if they have the intellectual horsepower and whether or not
they can have a guy as creative as Ben Johnson
offensive well.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
And there's a report out by the way Florio actually
threw it out there, there's rumors going around the NFL
grapevine that the Bears are gonna pay Benjoons some thirteen
million dollars a year, which is just insane for a
first year head coach in the national football to be
making that kind of money, But maybe that's what it'll
take to put up with Caleb Williams. I got no idea,
but Humillain's with us for a couple more segments. Sarren
(13:13):
Petro's gonna join us from Kansas City at five point
forty five, and then we'll talk some baseball with Booney
Brett Boone coming up at six, Lorenzo Romar joining us
around six thirty or so.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
I do want to go back to the conversation we had.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I know we talked about the Mark Andrews drop last segment,
but I do want to go back to kind of
what you saw from Buffalo, what you saw from Josh
Allen in that game. I know we're talking off the
air about the weapon that he is near the goal line,
the fact that you can literally drag players across the
goal line, push players across the goal line. When that
player is Josh Allen, Hugh, that just seems massively unfair
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and unstoppable.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
It does seem kind of unfair that the Bills opponents
have to play against an actual Buffalo, right and Josh Allen, right, yeah, yeah,
you know, particularly down there now, I don't like the
tush push. I think it should be outlawed. It was
never part of football for most of my life, and
I don't understand how it's become a thing. And obviously
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it's a thing with the Eagles, and it's become more
of a thing with the Bills.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
But but yeah, Josh Allen, as long as they allow it,
it's a weapon. I think that they should have used
it down on the goal line and a chance. You
know that last drive there where they kicked the field
goal when they didn't get anything from two yard, you know,
third and two, I think they should.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Have just snuck it twice. But yeah, I am concerned.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
However, there was a conservativism a play not to lose
mentality by Sean McDermott. I mean, the idea that Alan
only had one hundred and twenty seven yards passing seems
a little concerning. I don't think they can bring that
mindset into Kansas City. I think Josh Allen's going to
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have to be you know, north to two hundred yards
at least in that game. So but you know, maybe
they just played it and they could see what you know,
they had the twenty one to ten lead at halftime,
and and maybe they got conservative there, but I feel
like they need more from the potential MVP.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
And Allen, Well, let me ask you this, who would
you rather have starting for your football team? And I
realize it's also about what you got around you, but
would you rather have Josh Allen over Patrick Mahomes at
this point in time, even though Mahomes is at home?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
No, I think Mahomes is proven that he just can
pull rabbits out of his hat. He's you know, he's
gonna get at least two fifteen yard penalties, so I
just know that going into the game right that there's
going to be a roughing. So somehow he's on the
living on the right side of the league because they
protect him.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
But you think that's row I was protected like that,
because there's a lot of people that are complaining about that,
by the way, because here, you know, as well as
I superstars at all sports, NB football, they get calls.
That's just the way things go. They get calls, and
the Chiefs seem to be getting a lot of calls
right now, so much to a point where a lot
of people this is a huge talking point around the
Country's a bother you.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
It does bother me those penalties, And it's been been
building all through the year, but those penalties on Saturday,
I think they were absurd.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I mean it's football. I mean, come on, it's freaking football.
Like like you.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I hate to say back when I played, because I
was mostly just holding the clipboard, I wasn't gonna get hurt.
But on the occasions that I was on the field, man,
you take a you take.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
A face to face hit.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
And if I turned around and look at the ref
like hey, penalty, you look at me, what's the and problem?
You're wearing a helmet like like there was no protection. Now,
I think that they have done well to recognize that
there's an emerging health concern. And and so I think
the most egregious yeah hits the ones that just look criminal. Yeah, fine,
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drop a flag. But there's a term called glancing an
incidental as opposed to forcible. Every anytime you start using
those words, that means it's judgment, that means there's gray
area that's a relative. One man's uh uh uh forceful
conduct could be another man's glancing and incidental. And so
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I think there's an inconsistency that I don't like. And
I think it's applied clearly with bias to uh, to
Pat Mahomes and uh. I I'll just quote Troy Aikman.
I mean, he's got a lot more weight in his
voice than me. But he just said this is absurd.
I could not disagree more. Did he say word for word? Yes,
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that that line. I could not disagree more than on
that penalty. I think they're absurd and uh and you
know there I don't know. I just think there's a
bunch of snowflakes that are running these decisions. And there
they are in feebling the game. They are, which is
another way saying the wissification. And these are grown men
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that you know, some guys like to get in an octagon,
like guys like to repel down mountain. Some guys like
to you know, you know, Pat Tillman likes to to
instead of running down on kickoffs, he wants to go
get carved up in a war like. People can make
their decisions, and this game is a violent game. People
play it out of their own choice. And they have
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gone way too far in my opinion, in protecting guys,
particularly the quarterbacks and particularly Pat Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well, Josh Allen and Buffalo and what is it three
of the last four years, I believe, if I'm not mistaken,
their season has ended at the hands of the Kansas
City Chiefs. And you gotta kind of wonder if they
can't get him right now with the Chiefs team that's
been pushed to the limit by almost everybody they've played
this year, they play a lot of fourth quarter games.
If they can't get him this year, when is it
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ever gonna happen?
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Man?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
And I wonder how much of that is kind of
eating at Josh Allen and how much he will be
kind of preoccupied with that. I mean, we got about
a minute left in the segment. Tell me about that
if you were if you were a quarterback and you
played the position, we got like forty five seconds left.
How much would that keep you up at night that
Patrick Mahomes is once again standing in your way?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Oh, it would haunt me.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
And I'll tell you the one that would haunt me
is after the twenty twenty one season. Yeah, David, this
is the greatest game I've ever seen by a quarterback
in a losing effort in the playoffs, and that includes
Tom Brady in the Super Bowl against the Eagles when
he threw for five hundred and five yards, which was
not only a Super Bowl record, a playoff record, But
in that game Brady fumbled midway through the fourth quarter
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at a critical time.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
The game that.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Allen had at Kansas City twenty seven to thirty seven,
three hundred and twenty nine yards, four touchdowns, no picks,
a passer rating of one thirty six and sixty eight
yards rushing with countless first downs.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
That I literally put that team on his back.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Two drives of seventy yards or more in the second
half of the fourth quarter. Like he did everything he
could to win that game, and thirteen seconds was was
too much yeap to allow Mahomes and you just go,
oh my god, what do I gotta do?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Right?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
So, yeah, it's it's a it's a it's a millstone
around his neck that he's gonna.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Just have to, yep, shake off with Elway. Elway. I
played with the Elway.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
He had the same type of a deal after having
lost three Super Bowls, but then he finally won two.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Well, if if Josh Allen doesn't get it done this Sunday,
I mean him and Lamar you know, are both going
to have that millstone hanging around their neck, and Lamar
still has it right now. But there's a lot of
there's a lot of similarities to here between Lamar Jackson
and Peyton Manning. You may not know what the hell
I'm talking about. I'll remind you next as we continue
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Speaker 4 (21:10):
It's almost hard to even fathom.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
He was seven consecutive conference championship appearances now for Kansas
City and Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes. You think about
the overtime loss to the Patriots, the close loss to Cincinnati,
Chris Jones jumping off sides that that's how close the
Chiefs are to maybe playing in six streat Super Bowls
and if they win this game on Sunday seven. But
I want to get your thoughts on Lamar Jackson in
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just a second, because obviously this guy is now tagged
with the label I can't win the big one. But
we talked briefly last segment about Saquon Barkley and the
game the guy had over the weekend. Obviously he's carrying
that freaking football team. The guy at two hundred and
five yards, a couple of touchdowns. He averages almost eight
yards per run. One of the better playoff performances I've
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ever seen from a running back man.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, and I think that there was definitely weather aided.
You kind of watch how this in both those long runs,
the seventy eight yard or and the sixty two yarder.
You had two different cams from a RAM perspective. One
was Cam Kitchen's free safety. He takes a poor angle,
then he gets I don't know if he got bench
or whatever, but then Cam cruel. He was also a
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free safety. You're playing center field there. Anytime you have
a run more than about ten yards, you can blame
it on a safety like that.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
It's his job.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
You just go on a whiteboard and you say, okay,
how are we going to block this? You run out
of blockers and you never assigned somebody to a post safety.
He's got a he's unblocked, he's got to make the tackle.
But you know, there's a soundness that you have to
have when you're going against sa Quon On a sixty
two yarder that he had to the right side of
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the Eagle line, there were no defensive linemen to the
either over or to the left of the center. From
the ram perspective, there's two linebackers and two dbs, and
the Eagle line is just tossing guys out of the
way because they just had no growth, literally no defensive lineman.
And then on the seventy eight yard that was just
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a split zone inside zone run. Jared Verse, who's had
a great year. What was he the nineteenth pick the
out of Florida State and he's been somebody we've kept
an eye on because the Seahawks could have had him
instead of Byron Murphy. I'm not saying that they should have,
but burse had the better year of the two he
on this plague.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Can I jump in for a quick second.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I mean, I know this is a total detour, but
who would you rather have Jalen Carter and Jared Verse
on your defensive line or Devin Witherspoon and your secondary
and Byron Murphy because you could have had both.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, I think a hell of an argument could be
made for Jalen Carter and Jared Verse. But look, the
last guy I'm gonna start to bail on is Witherspoon.
I just love that guy's competitiveness and I just can't
bring myself to criticize him. But there was some fundamental
breakdowns and then again aided by safeties. Everybody has at
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some point or another in their life walked on ice
on with tennis shoes no skates, right, And you know
that's what those safeties look like.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
They were just like they take these bad.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Angles and we're like, who whoo whoo, and they were
just more concerned about falling than they were about getting
to the right spot. And you know when Saquon, his
speed just kind of creates different angles for you.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
So I don't know, I'm just looking at.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Those runs, right, that Barkley had the sixty two yard
of the seventy eight yard.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Or really really fundamental breakdowns and so you know you're
gonna beat the.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Eagles with that guy, you gotta at least be sound,
you know, like get beat for the right reasons.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Don't get beat because you're unsound.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, well, I'm looking at Lamar Jackson going back to
the Ravens bills for a second, and look, obviously he
had the fumble.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
O obviously he had the interception.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
You know, we can get your thoughts on what happened
that on that pick in a second. But I didn't
feel like the Ravens lost the game because Lamar Jackson
played terrible football.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
I think he played well enough for them to win.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
And if Mark Andrews catches that two point conversion, who knows.
But whether it's fair or unfair, Hugh, and you know,
the life of a quarterback in the NFL, it's not
really up to you to decide what's fair and what's
not fair. He's got that label if can't win the
big one. And you remember there was a time when
Peyton Manning had that label too. Remember when he finally
beat Brady in Indianapolis When I think it was that
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was that Marlon Jackson had the interception for the Colts
and Bob Lamey goes bananas. You know, Marlin's got it
regard to the Super Bowl, and Peyton Manning finally was
able to get there and win. But first seven years
in the NFL, Lamar Jackson Peyton Manning were multi time MVPs,
both three and five in the playoffs, and neither one
had been.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
To a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Do you feel pretty good in saying that Lamar Jackson
one day is going to finally get there breakthrough?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Do I feel good?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I would say probably if I had, But but I
don't think there's anything if Dan Marino could not get
back to the Super Bowls right after year two, any
you know, there's there's been a lot of good ones.
I would just say this, Look, Lamar Jackson had one
hundred and fourteen passer rating and you know two hundred
and fifty yards.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
That's gonna escape scrutiny, right, But if you're talking.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
About all the details on all the plays that define
winning and losing, that two point play that preceded not
the you know, the infamous one that Andrews drop, but
the one prior to that. He had the bills in
man to man coverage and Isaiah likely the tight end
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was running as a shallow cross. They get a pick
in man coverage and twenty four coal Bishop is he's
the guy in man coverage on leg he falls on
his face, he goes sliding on the snow like he's like,
like it was intentional. It was wide open. And if
you're in a quarterback meeting room, every quarterback meeting room
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in in the NFL, you would say, like if that
was a let's say August practice and preseason, you were
just like, dude, just you gotta just you know, trajectory,
throw it like a free throw. Just lob it over
the defensive end because there's nobody out. It's not zone
coverage with.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Some flat defender on the opposite side.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
It's man with nobody out there, nobody and the guy
chasing your guy fell down. So so the the idea
that Jackson would throw that out in the low trajectory
and Milano bats it down at the line.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
You remember that.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Play, of course, like, yeah, you had the Derrick Henry
up the sideline. I was a little bit behind him
and that was dropped. That was in the first series.
Now they scored on that, but but that may have
impacted the Obviously, the fumble in the second quarter has
got to protect the ball.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
The interception on the second series.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
We're all talking about some of the plays from Lamar
Jackson the the interception in the second series.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
A corner route.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
He threw that so errantly that you almost wonder if
there was a miscommunication. I was kind of eager to
look at the coaches tape this morning. I looked at
it and I said, wait a minute, if you know
that that's a common route combination what's called smash a
corner to the end of the boundary with a guy
in the flat, and then you had inbreaking routes coming
from the field side. It had all the signs of
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everybody running the correct route, and uh and and just
simple case of of Lamar Jackson throwing that ball way
too far to the inside. And even if you were
to pose it that, let's make the assumption that that
what was it was Sean Bateman ran the wrong route.
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You say, well, that is so bad that he must
have ran the wrong route. Okay, let's just let's just
make that assumption. You still are left with our buddy
Taylor rap was playing free safety, and he came over
and easily intercepted the ball, and so had had the
receiver done something different, which I contend he should not have,
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I think he ran the correct route. But if I
try and pose it that he ran the wrong route,
You're still left with the idea that Taylor rap came
over and you know, could have waived like a fair
catch on that interception. So so the ball would have
been contested or or Bateman would have got blown up
or have been intercepted even if he had run a
different route, because he had a defender right there ready
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to make a play. So I just think that that
that has a double minus that falls on mar Jackson. Look,
I think he's a hell of a player, probably a
Hall of Famer, you know, I think he's accountable and
and he's breathtaking certainly in his athleticism. But this when
you make plays like that. I just mentioned a handful
of plays that are difference between winning and losing. And
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we talked in the you know, prior segment about how
it could have been a better throw on the Andrews
two point although it was you know, honest say, for
the ump team time, it was definitely a drop. The
majority of the vast majority of the fault goes on Andrews.
But you know, you know, they're those handful half a
dozen plays that's that you you you play a little
bit better quarterbacking for the Ravens, and the Ravens win
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that game.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
No question. All right, let's do this. We'll give you
a little break.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
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Back in studio tomorrow at three with the Hall of
Fame announcement. He is he going to be a first
ballot Hall of Famer? I would think so. The only
question is really been unanimous or not. We'll find out
around three o'clock tomorrow. But I'll tell you what that's
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of No concern to people in Kansas City because they
are getting ready to.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Do something on Sunday that I'm.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Assuming growing up as a kid, and even when he
got into this crazy business decades ago, Saren Petro of
WHB never thought possible. And that as a seventh consecutive
trip to the AFC Championship Game, Saren, if I would
have told you fifteen twenty years ago that your beloved
Kansas City Chiefs would be in the conference title game
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seven years in a row, you would have said, what
back to me, you're.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
On crack down the pipe? What are you thinking there? Yeah,
absolutely not. I mean you're talking about a franchise. They
named the trophy for winning the AFC Championship Game the
Lamar Hunt Trophy, and for a long long time, I said, look,
forget about winning a Super Bowl. This team just needs
to get the Lamara Hunt Trophy. They named the trophy
after their owner, the founder of the AFL, and they've
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never even possess that trophy. Forget about Vince Lombardi. Let's
take it, baby steps, Let's win the Lamar Hunt Trophy
once first. Now to have played for it seven consecutive
years is amazing.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Well, and look it's incredible how close this team is
to actually making the Super Bowl seven consecutive years in
a row. You think about that six point loss to Brady,
you think about the three point loss to the Bengals, obviously,
but this run that you're on right now, it feels
different because you've got fifteen wins, which is the most
Enfranchise history. But you're struggling to close every game out.
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But that's the talent, right to find a way to
win when you're maybe not at your best is a talent.
So how did this particular version of Chief Football pull
it off compared to all those other teams that Andy
Reid and Patrick Mahomes have been a part of.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
Yeah, it is one of the more impressive runs, I
think because of the things they've been up against, because
you know, help wise, I mean injury wise, they lost
Raschi Rice early, Hollywood Brown, they lost in the first
preseason game, didn't get in back until the last few
games of the year. They missed the first I think
ten or twelve games with Charles lemene who who blew
out his knee, and the nfcg or AFC championship game
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last year. So they've had key pieces. They've been out.
Jalen Watson went down about week five or six, as
they have, but Checko went down around week three or four.
They've lost a lot of guys and they kept winning,
and I think, you know, just being down on talent
was one of the reasons why they were winning all
those games so closely. And now as they've come down
the stretch, you know, they beat Cleveland whatever that's worth,
by two touchdowns. They handled business against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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Against the Houston Texans, they won by eight against the Texans,
and Kareem Hunt slid down at about the five yard
line to run out the clock instead of punching in
a touchdown that would have made it fifteen. It was
fourteen over the Steelers. And then this one I think
ends up being what was it nine when it's all
said and done, It was eleven before they took the
safety at the end. So they have been having their
most impressive wins here of late, and I think it's
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because they're starting to get some of those players back.
Everyone butt Roschie Rice that I mentioned is now back
the Chiefs, and I think that makes them a tougher
receiving core to handle. It makes them a much tougher
defensive line to handle, just because everybody. They now have
depth of guys that can come out for the quarterback.
And I think that was one of the things that
really showed against the Texans eight sacks on CJ. Stroud,
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And they had really been down from their sack to
where they were number two in the NFL last year,
and over the last five or six games, they're getting
back to looking like the team that really harassed the
quarterback last year.
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watching the parade, the crowd sizes for the Patriot parades
as they picked up four, five, six championships, and they
would get smaller and smaller and smaller. Honestly, is this
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getting kind of, for lack of a better word, boring.
Are people still as enthusiastic? Are they still is adamant
and fired up and drooling at the mouth just like
they were for number one back in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
I think they are. I mean, one of the things
that the Patriots had going was the Celtics were good
for part of that stretch. You know, the Bruins were
winning things, the Red Sox were winning things. The Royals
finally got good again last year and got back into
the playoffs for the first time since twenty fifteen. So
you know, there hasn't been as much competition for sports
fans here in Kansas City from the professional standpoint. But
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I mean there is an element like, listen, you know,
you're spoiled. There's no doubt if you eat pizza every day,
you're gonna love pizza, but you're not gonna get fired
up the way you did when you only had it,
you know, once a month. I mean, it just it
is a different mindset. It's an entitled mindset. It's a
spoiled mindset. People begin to complain about things that are
absolutely ridiculous, and you know that's where the fan base
is right now. They can afford to do it because
(35:44):
the team keeps giving them more and more to enjoy.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
When you hear people complain about all the calls that
Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs get, does that bother you
is a bother chief fans.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
I bothered Chiefs fans a lot. It shouldn't. I mean,
it was one of the AP writers put it out
there that Chiefs have actually been penalized for two hundred
more yards since Patrick Mahomes has been the starting quarterback
for two hundred more yards than their opposition in the playoffs,
and that, you know, I saw that out on Twitter
and there were respons like but yeah, but it's when
the calls come like okay, like you're never gonna make
(36:16):
everybody happy on that kind of thing. Chiefs fans, we
told them a long time ago. Look, everybody loves you
here in twenty eighteen because Patrick Mahomes ain't Tom Brady,
he's new, You're fresh. But if you start winning championships,
they're gonna view you the same way they view the
New England Patriots. And what you got to do is
embrace wearing the black hat, roll into town, drink their whiskey,
take their women, and enjoy the victors. Enjoy the victories
(36:38):
because it's no one's going to be on your side anymore.
And I think you know, because it's coming right after
the Patriots, and they remember how much they hated the
Patriots and felt the same way that you know, the
Patriots got all the calls that they understand it a
little better than maybe some other fan bases would. But no,
it's still upset y.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Well, let's say, by all accounts, a toss up man
on Sunday right with Buffalo. I mean, the Chiefs are
not even getting the obligatory three you know, and make
me nervous a little bit of fire. You the Kansas
City's perfect at home knock on wood. Buffalo obviously is
on a freaking mission. They have been for you know
what thirty five years now ever since losing four in
a row.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
What's your anxiety level like for Sunday's game, man, You
know it's not.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
High because one, if they don't win, I mean, for
God's sake, like I said, we've been spoiled. Like you know,
I can't complain they if they would lose in the
conference championship game. But you know, my feeling is the
better team is home. I think Baltimore was the better team.
They turned it over three times and had a chance
to tie it late. I think Baltimore was a team
that I would say can play lower than the Bills
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can play, but can also play higher and so I
actually feared the Ravens more than I feared the Bills.
I think the Bills are a great story. Josh Allen
is tough, but when they played Josh Allen, they hadn't
had Charles Amne who back, and they had zero sacks
on Josh Allen. They're gonna be able to pressure him
a lot better this time. I think that makes him
much more equipped on defense. Jalan Watson didn't play that game.
He came back in this last game, so their defensive
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backfield gets deeper. So this is the best version of
the Chiefs. I am concerned. I thought the passing game
looked poor. They've done a nice job of trying to
solidify the offensive line with Joe Toney left tackle, and
he is their best option in pass blocking. But they
really don't run the ball well anymore. So they're getting
kind of one dimensional. And so look, it's not perfect,
(38:25):
but no one's perfect. When you have that big contract
for the quarterback, you're going to have to minimize your
weaknesses maximize your strengths. They found a way to do
it against Houston, they need to find a way to
do it against Buffalo. I think the spread's probably right.
I mean Patrick Mahomes is one of four against Josh
Allen in the regular season and three to zero in
the postseason. You know, he seems to always play his best.
He's one of a handful of quarterbacks whose passer rating
goes up in the postseason as tdd int goes way
(38:48):
up in the postseason. He just seems to always rise
to the occasion.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Soren, great stuff.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Man, enjoy it while it lasts, because at some point
this run is going to come to an end. When
I got no freaking idea, but it's going to come
to an end at some point, man, So soak it up.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Have fun Sunday, and we'll talk down the road. Budy,
appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Man, Sophie, you the man. Thanks for having me brother, you.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Bet, Sir m Petro WHB Chiefs Bills. On Sunday, Phillies
Command of Philly. Philadelphia Commanders will go at noon Bill's
Kansas City at three thirty.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
We will get a break come back. Brett Boone's gonna
join us.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Talk about some baseball moves the Mariners have made and
a lot of moves they haven't made.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Next on ninety three to three KJRFM,
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