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January 8, 2025 31 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Petros Papadakis about the fires in Los Angeles right now, NFL coaching carousel, and Fox Sports lawsuit, then the guys discuss the enthusiasm for Huskies football when it comes to 2025 and in NIL.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for our weekly conversation with college football analyst
Petros Papadekas.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
That I'm a smart guy, I'm stupid.

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Speaker 2 (00:35):
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to get.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
A chance to talk to one of the.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
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A guy that we have not been able to hook
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are thrilled to have him back on the ear. The
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one damn fine Greek American.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
It's our buddy, Petros Papadakis. Brat to you.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
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zero or Sweet James dot com. Hey listen, we'd like
to have a lot of fun on this segment, you
and me right going back a long long time. I
think people enjoy it. I enjoy it. Hope you do too.
But I don't know. Man. We gotta find out what
the hell's going on down there in southern California. I'm
seeing all these videos of these fires, and James Woods
is tweeting all these different videos. Out saw a guy

(01:54):
that was stuck in his house with his dog, flames
or engulfing his entire yard.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Dudes, that's the scene for us. What is going on
down there?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Man? Well, it's a crazy scene, no doubt about it,
and very upsetting if you are just a person with
human traits, because it's really hard to watch people lose
everything they have. And you're talking about three big fires
at least that are going on right now. Actually there's four.

(02:26):
There's the Palisades fire, and the Palisades is like all
the way next to Malibu on the other side of
the Santa Monica Bay from where I live. People get confused,
I live in Palace Verdes. So whenever something happens in
the Palisades and Malibu and the Palisades, it always feels
like every couple of years has wildfires and mud slides

(02:48):
and things like that. Not like this, but and people
always say, gosh, are you okay, And it's like, well, yeah,
I live, you know, seventy minute drive from there without traffic.
So but either way, it's a terrible situation. The Palisades
is like gone, and a lot of Malibu places that
people know, well, the real in Malibu feed been you know,

(03:11):
places you've seen in the movies. You know you're drive
on pH up there. The flames jumped over the highway
and of course it stops at the water like it
did in Lahina. And then there's the Hurst fire, which
is up in Silmar. That's not good. And Silmar is
like the very top of the of the county and

(03:33):
the city of Los Angeles, like the very tip of
the valley, all the way up there. And then there's
a big one that has killed a couple people in Altadena,
the Eton Fire, and that's in a canyon that's near Pasadena,
so that's close to a place you'd be familiar with,
you know, the Rose Bowl. But all of those fires

(03:54):
are north. And the reason there's a couple of reasons,
I guess it's happening now. There's a lot of conspiracy theories,
and you mentioned James Woods, and a lot of people
right now are starting to really point fingers. Apparently the
city was kind of caught a little bit off guard
with this, and they should not have been their warnings

(04:15):
about what to do with the water. There's rumors that
they ran out of water in the Palisades. Just unacceptable
stuff for one of the biggest cities in the world,
and absolutely unacceptable. And it's gonna be hard to sort
through that because, of course all the politicians get involved,
and we live in a very heated political time. Maybe
there's always been that in the world if you read

(04:38):
about stuff, but it feels like our political discourse is
very very difficult. And the mayor wasn't even here. She
was sent to Ghana by Joe Biden to oversee an
inauguration there. So yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Mean it's hard to not I mean, you're gonna laugh
at that o the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
No, No, it's you know, you gotta laugh a little bit.
I mean, I did an hour of hard news this
morning because you know, like you guys, our news station
overnight runs coast to coast, right right, right, Well, you
can't run coast to coast am when the city's burning down.
And the problem is they are these gigantic whipping winds

(05:21):
right now, the Santa Ana winds, and they are like
hurricane force eighty miles an hour overnight. And you really
see on television these horrific pictures when a structure goes down,
or when there's a gust or something. You see the embers,
I mean, and it's not like one little ember or
it's like millions of embers just flying through like fireflies

(05:43):
the air, and those are the things that cause the destruction.
Apparently the fire in the Palisades was started by somebody
in their backyard, like huly Yah. I hadn't heard that
part of it. Oh man, that's terrible. Yeah, so that's
what's going on. And uh, it's tough because well it's
hard to breathe. You know, there's smoke everywhere, the most

(06:06):
this is the most smoke and ash in the air
in my lifetime since ninety two when they had a
really bad fire and remember in Malibu. But I mean,
I think as the sun comes up and the smoke clears,
I think pat the Palisades is gone, which is just
amazing because it's a really affluent area, really affluent area.

(06:28):
And you know that's why the governor showed up there
in the morning yesterday for a photo op. It's the
city's burning down, dude, stop taking pictures for God's Like,
it's amazing, it's amazing. You know, you're forty seven years
old and you get come to realize that, you know,
the people that you that you depended on to be adults,
are just as stupid as you are, and it's it's disheartening.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, well, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
I mean, people are stupid because they're people, and people
have an ability to be stupid. But from from perspective,
I did ask because you know, I mean, everybody's treating
this like it's armageddon. And if you lose your house,
I mean, even if it's one fire, it's armageddon. So
that's one way to look at it. But from some perspective,

(07:14):
I asked a fire chief friend of mine, like, is
this the worst fire ever? What's going on? And he said,
in the scheme of things, it isn't. He said, for perspective,
the Paradise fire destroyed an entire city and killed eighty
five people in twenty minutes. Wow. You know that was

(07:37):
a few years back in a different part of California
and that city is gone, you know, So you know,
this stuff happens. And I guess part of it is
I don't know if you want to be labored here,
but we had record reigns, you know, the last couple
of years, which is something people in Seattle are quite
familiar with. And then it's been quite dry for like

(07:58):
the last ten months, and all that vegetation has grown,
and I guess they haven't done a good job of
clearing it. Softy.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, well, I'm sorry to hear all that.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Man. Yeah, hard to move on and talk football, fox right, Yeah,
I mean, geez, I remember that's okay. We know how
to jerk the wheel. What do you want to know? Well,
not that it's on the same scale, but I just
remember when you know, nine to eleven came down. Guy,
we didn't talk sports for four days on the air, right,
It was just all about that and picking up audio
from the networks and things like that. You know, you're

(08:27):
a little older than me.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
I am a little bit older than you. I'm fifty.
You'll be fifty two in August.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
But so nine eleven, two thousand and one was my
very first year in media, got you. So they just
pinned an American flag on me and pushed me onto
the air on right Sports West. Yes, yeah, knowing that
the patriot you are, you'd be a phenomenal guy to
kind of calm people's fears and you know, share very
important news. But I'm just curious, like, what are you
and money do on the air today? Do you talk

(08:54):
about this? Do you you pivot to you know, Lebron's
other son playing, you know, basketballer.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
I mean, what the hell?

Speaker 2 (09:01):
He doesn't play much, but Arizona's offered him as a
four star. He doesn't even start. He doesn't play much
for his high school.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
But he's a James. He's got to be good, but
he's not.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I guess Arizona's hoping they can get some of these
clutch sports guys if they get here. I'm not even kidding.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Oh god, you know, uh, what are we going to
talk about?

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yesterday we monitored this and then we did other stuff.
You know that we didn't know that. I mean, I
guess we felt that they kept saying the fire is
going to get worse overnight. Both like we we carried
some of the press conference. Like I hate like I
don't know if you can tell, but I despise, despise politicians,
and I hate local politicians. And whenever something happens, whether

(09:54):
somebody wins a championship or whatever happens, they show up
to get themselves credit for showing up, and they give
speeches and name all the other political names, and it
is the biggest off. I absolutely, I really really despise

(10:15):
public officials in so many ways. And I know I'm
painting with a broad brush, but I mean, so we
were caring to press conference and I was just making
fun of all the different people, you know, I mean,
probably being a little bit too irrevenue, No, but when
I cover the news, I'm not really covering the news.
I'm covering the news, covering the news, right, just making

(10:38):
fun of those people. Yes, yeah, because of an angle.
I hate them so much.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Do you ask, where does that come from?

Speaker 2 (10:47):
I guess from working at my father's restaurant and serving
politicians local and state level and national level my whole life,
and just being disgusted by their behavior. And then when the.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Guy came into the casino with the strippers on each arm,
and yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Kind of like that, that's the same reason I don't
like Jerry Buss that much. And then, uh well, I
mean are those stories rare? I mean people are like,
you know, everybody else would be condemned for being a
pervert and a psycho and a depraved lunatic with a
bunch of nineteen year old hookers, but Jerry Buss are like, oh, well,
you know, we win championship. He sure knows how to
have a good time. Jesus talk about double standards. Anyway, Hey,

(11:31):
I saw winning time.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
I know the truth.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
De Yeah, yeah, so my feelings about the local politicians
kind of spill over whenever anything like this happens. Oh
and I remember working, you know, around USC a bunch
when they were winning titles under Pete Carroll and the
way they all show up and they don't even you know,
one guy, one city official, was like, I want to

(11:54):
congratulate Pete Carrott and Mike Leinert. It's just like you idiot,
like these people just want to get They just want
to touch themselves over showing. You know, look at us.
We're here in front of the fire. Look at us.
Take a picture. It's like, okay, thanks, the city's burning
down you and you know what else, I'm tired of

(12:16):
zero percent contained? How about don't put any con Just
don't put anything up there. I don't need to know
it's contained. If it's zero percent contained, don't show me
when it's five percent put it up. Okay, So when
you've made progress, you can report some progress. Please until then,
zip it. Hey.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
By the way, uh speak as we transition here.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Uh? Speaking of Pete Carrot, Pete Carrot, did you see
the stories, Leonard?

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Did you see the story He's gonna interview with the
Bears tomorrow?

Speaker 2 (12:44):
You see it with the Dodgers too. You know the.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Dodgers are gonna interview Pete Carroll.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Oh no, you know with a local politician. Sorry, yeah, yeah,
Look Pete wants a job and his thirst is deep,
and Belichick got a job, and Pete's gonna get a job,
and he's gonna Brennan Carroll and you're gonna be so
upset that you lost your oc that doesn't call plays.
It doesn't call plays. He coached the terrible offensive line.
I gotta be honest with you. I'm not gonna cry.

(13:09):
If Brennan Carroll takes off, well, it would be the
second time you guys ran him out of tow.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
So what whatever? Man, the guy that true.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
You should have seen these press conferences that Steve Belichick
and Brendan Carroll did all year long. First of all,
they did him together, the two of God. Okay, like
Lebron and Ad Yes at a podium. They they never
did one on one interviews with anybody the entire year.
Both guys look like they would have had a rather
had a number two pencil to the eyeball than to
sit there and do a press conference in Seattle, Oh,

(13:39):
hostile witnesses. Huh.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Neither one had a desire to be there. Neither one.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
And now you see the story about Brennan's Actually, Brennan's
actually pretty cool with the media.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
No, he was all right, but nobody would know.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
But normally he is. But Belichick was probably so he
didn't want to. He didn't want to look uncool in
front of Belichick because the Belichicks hate the media. Steve
Belichick makes Bill Belichick look like the most personable guy
walk on the face of the earth. Great, well, he'll
be your next head coach at North Carolina. Come on
and raise up. Do you see the.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Story about Tom Brady wants Bill to coach the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I can see that. I've heard all kinds of rumors.
But here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
If he bils out after June first at Chapel.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Hill, he only owes him a million bucks and Steve's
already on the job.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
How about that for a con.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
If yours over a million bucks and his son gets the.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Gig, you would you would think that they are not
that You would think that they're not that diabolical. You
would think The greatest trick the Devil ever played was
to convince the world that he didn't exist. Just like that,
he was gone.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
The greatest nepotism con of all time.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
That's pretty that's that's that is uh, that is Bryce
James level. Oh, I mean, I'm actually impressed if he
does that. To be honest with you, I wouldn't even
be mad if he pulls off something like that. Hey,
by the way, does anybody at the office No, Joy Taylor? Sorry?

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Yeah, maybe I work in that building side.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
That's why I asked you.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
I don't know those people. Do you know Joey Taylor?
No day to ask you if you knew Joy Taylor? No,
we've honestly, I've never met her.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Do you know her?

Speaker 2 (15:25):
No? But I will say this, you know, and it
has nothing to do with that show or any show
at first of all? Will you will you just do
me a favor for people that don't know what we're
talking about when you referenced it, just what why don't
you do it?

Speaker 5 (15:37):
Well?

Speaker 3 (15:37):
I just know that I would rather.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Not give the synopsis. Why don't you do it? If
I give it wrong, then you can correct me, all right.
The synopsis is that Joy Taylor who's on a lawsuit.
There's a lawsuit on Colin Cowhard show. She's on Cowhard Show. No,
she's not. She does not on that show anymore.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
I thought she was.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
No, she has her own show, and that's part of
the lawsuit.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
She has her own show.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
She's being accused of basically sleeping her way to the
top with a lot of different people that have recognizable
names in media. I'd say several several people with recognizable
names in media. Petros is not one of them. And
did she not accuse Skip Bayless of like sexual assa No, No,
that was a dude, you got to read if you're.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Gonna this is this is why I told you to
bring it up.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
It was. The lawsuit is from The lawsuit is from
one of the hairstylis got you and uh in alleges
all kinds of things and and hairstylist towards Skip Bayless.
Skip Bayless allegedly yeah, offered her a bunch of money
and got into some weird competition with Shannon Sharp for

(16:42):
her affection that he just sort of made up in
his head, just.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Like Michael Jackson, Paul McCartney top thing.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
He doesn't seem I'm not familiar with that. But he
doesn't see is mine. She's mine. He doesn't seem to
be playing with a full deck socially. Do you know
what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
For whatever Skip Maalist has accomplished and you know, much
more than I ever will in media. He just doesn't
seem socially to be playing with a full deck. But
other than that, I will say this, I've worked on
and you know, I'm sweaty and ugly and not really
very happy on camera for long periods of time. But

(17:21):
I've worked, you know, periodically in that building for many,
many years, and I've done a lot of studio work,
and even some of those you know, when Fox Sports
Won first started, a lot of those stupid talking head
type shows, right that you just have to have on
the air and people, you know that you hope that
something you say goes viral on social media, and it's

(17:41):
just it's so stupid. But the one thing I will
say is I have seen so many people come to
Los Angeles who are not executives talent, come to Los
Angeles and get on one of these stupid shows that's
going to be canceled in six weeks and literally act

(18:03):
like their Tom Cruise and go around town and just
try like live a music video, you know, and it
doesn't last. And it's sad to see. And I hate
to say that I'm above anything in life, because I've
made thousands of mistakes every single day, like we all do.
But I would like to think that I'm above that

(18:25):
that coming doing doing local cave or doing any kind
of national or local cable sports. Talking on TV does
not make you, I don't care how much much they
pay you, does not make you a celebrity, does not
make you get to run around and act like you're invisible.
And that goes for everybody, executives, everybody involved. Thinking that

(18:48):
there's you know, part of the cool crowd because they're
in sports media. It's kind of gross to watch. Yeah,
So anyway, that's that's uh, that would be how I
feel about it. Generally, when out specifically discussing what's what's
going on over there or allegedly going on, just be
careful with you know, you don't want to get in
the say the wrong thing on the air and be

(19:08):
libel to anybody or whatever, so lible to who for what?

Speaker 3 (19:11):
I don't know anything. You have you heard whitlock.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
That's the other thing, you know, you have all these
other guys that aren't there anymore.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
A big rack and cocoa brown skin or whatever that be.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Wreck. It's just like and then you got you got him,
and you know all these other guys that used to
be there, part of that ecosystem whatever, and for whatever reason,
they're not there anymore. And now you know, everybody's like
connecting the dots and cowherds behind this, you know, the

(19:46):
Marcellus Wiley's behind this, Shannon Shark's behind the whole thing.
He's the mastermind, you know. So it's a it's actually
if you look it up and read it and then
you listen to someone, if you can wade through a
lot of whitlocks uh bs, and and self absorption, you know,
and thinking that anybody would ever want to have sex
with him, If you can wade through all of that stuff,

(20:09):
it is kind of interesting to I mean, maybe it
is for me because I know a lot of the
people involved, but it is. It is kind of interesting
thinking about, you know, how these people operate, you know,
on these shows, and how they compete and try to
take each other out. I mean, if you think it's happening,
you can read about it. All right, man, good stuff,

(20:30):
thinking about all you guys down there, best of luck,
stay safe.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Man, and hang in their belt.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
All right. Well, yeah, I just I hope it doesn't
get worse and it doesn't feel like it's getting better.
I have tired of them putting zero percent containment up there.
It's oh well, I'll see if I can do something
about that for you contain. Yeah, all right, man, good stuff.
See you, buddy, Petro Spapadacus. We're gonna break Kevin Harlan's
at five right here on ninety three three kJ RFM.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
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Speaker 2 (21:14):
And I thought about a lot of what you said
to me yesterday on the air, Dick. During the first
segment of the radio show, we talked about Cacario Davis
going to you, Dov, and you said, why are you
always pissing in the Huskies cheerios on the A or
something like that? And uh, I because I'm the one
that says, well, we got to fix the line, right,
Like Ta Caio is great, but if it's not, if
it's Ta Carrio in and Thattias Dixon out, I mean,

(21:37):
the like the net positive of that to me is
not obviously nearly as big as it's to Carrio in
addition to Thattius Dixon.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
So, but that was just only one of the elements, right, Okay.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
Other elements were, what are we going to be able
to compete in the Big ten? Is Demon Williams gonna
stay past next year?

Speaker 2 (21:55):
It's like, well, why wouldn't you worry about that stuff?
Do you worry about that stuff? Jackson?

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Not yet right now. Waswa to see if we worry
about in September August.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
But I mean, I guess, I just I just feel
like the University of Washington is a major brand. I
understand that they're not Michigan Ohio state brand, but there's
only like five or six of those in the country,
and the Huskies are in that next group of biggest brands,
and I just don't think that brand is going anywhere.

(22:26):
And now it's going to be tougher in the next
few years because they've got they don't have a full
share of Big ten. I understand that, so you might
take a little dip short term. But I'm not worried
about this program long term in any more than I've
been worried.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
About it the last fifty years, which has been zero.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
That is very interesting to me, because my gut says
that that is an absolute, nonsensical, irrational approach, all right,
because and here's why. Because you've got a Washington brand
that's been in the same conference with schools like USC
and Oregon. Now they're the same conference with USC and Oregon,

(23:02):
and we're adding Penn State, Ohio State, and Michigan. So
winning a conference championship just got exponentially tougher because, for
first of all, there's eighteen teams versus twelve, and there's
way more brands now in your conference than there were
in the PAC twelve. Understood, I think it's a lot
more difficult to win it.

Speaker 5 (23:19):
But you're also chopping off thirty Okay, that's fine schools
that are now norchools that are no longer competitive really
in the long run with Big Ten and SEC schools.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Okay, but like everybody that's not in those conferences.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
But what are we talking about it we're talking about
just where they stand in college football. We talk about
where they stand in their own conference in college football.
I'm talking about where they stand in the Big Ten.
Where do the Huskies need to finish in the Big
Ten every year to be almost assured of a playoff
spot or feel good about a playoff spot. Top four Okay,
so now you've got Oregon, USC, which I think USC

(23:54):
is going to bounce back eventually, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan,
schools like Wisconsin. I think it's harder to be in
the top four now than it was in the top
four of the PAC twelve.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
Yea way harder. Of course, that's number one, but the
PAC twelve wasn't getting fourteen round.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Right, But number two.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Now you're going to have to rally the troops in
a city where I've always questioned our enthusiasm for things
like this, and I don't know if we're going to
be able to handle what the Big ten is going
to demand of us financially. I'd love to get Hues
take on this when he comes on the year on Friday.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
And then number three.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Excuse me as far as the you know, not going
nuts for Tacario Davis, which look just talking about ta
Cario himself. I'm very excited he's here. I think it's
a very good cornerback. He's got a chance to be
one of the best corners in America if Thaddeus Dixon returns.
And I said this on Twitter yesterday. I think those
three guys have a chance to be the best secondary
on Big Ten next year. But the offensive and defensive

(24:51):
line still concerns me. And here's why I'm focusing on that,
because I'm a homer for Dub. I'm not an apologist
for you, Dub. And I think the bigger the fan
you are of a team, the more you get freaked
out and pissed off and nervous about stuff. I think
Jackson's the same way about the Sounders. True, I think

(25:13):
you might be the same way about the Storm or
Gonzaga or whatever. And so look, when you're trying to
win a championship, it's the things that you don't have
that you focus on because you need to get them.
And I've always been that way, Like I get way
more worked up with the losses that I do the wins,
way more. Like I'm literally driving around thinking about the

(25:33):
Michigan game and what went wrong when I should be
driving around thinking about the Texas game or the Oregon
game right in Vegas and how freaking awesome that was.
So I'm just never ever gonna sit around and just
completely apologize and make excuses. But I'm going to root
my ass off for those guys, And the reason why
I'm so fired up is because I freaking love them

(25:54):
and I am desperate to get that offensive and defensive
line fixed in time for this upcoming season. Because when
you add Jonah Coleman, Adam Mohammad, Denzel Boston, Rashid Williams,
the transfer from Texas, the wide receiver Johnte is it cook?
Is that right? Demon Williams, Fatteus Dixon if he comes
back to Carrio Davis, if he's here, which he will.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
Be, Ephesians Price sock. I mean, good god, dude, I
mean anything, even the line is freaking loaded. But that's
a problem and is a problem.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
That's like saying, I mean if you're playing off, I
mean your driver's broken, but everything else works.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
I understand that, but it's I just choose not the
focus on what we don't have. And just like I didn't,
I haven't spent the last fifty years.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Of my life going good.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Why can't it be?

Speaker 4 (26:40):
Why can't we be Alabama? Why can't we be Texa?
Can't we be Michigan.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
I'm like, dude, I've got a great college football program
that is proud, that is nationally known, and most college
fans in America don't have what I have, and I
am glad about what I have, and I don't have
the delusions of grandeur that the Huskies are going to
be a top five program in America over the next

(27:05):
fifty years.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Okay, but you literally also just said that college football
will eventually only be thirty teams or forty teams. That's right,
and for Washington to be one of the top ten
or top fifteen of that group, they're going to have
to make well are they right now?

Speaker 5 (27:19):
I mean, unless they've not been a top fifteen program
for title fifteen, you think they are right now? Not today,
They're not there yet. They can bounce back and they
again day but four months ago.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Right but Dick, But yeah, you have to understand my
frustrations and talking to you because you're literally sitting here
admitting to me and agreeing with me that the offensive
and defensive lines are a problem right now for twenty
twenty five, and then you're getting on me for pointing
out that the Washington Huskies need to get better in
the trenches if they want to compete in the Big ten.
I I always just thought that that was just something

(27:53):
we just don't agree on. But that's not there. These
are going to be issues that we can agree on.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
That was never my point.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
What is your My point was the long range worrying
outlook about this program.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
I disagree with you on okay. I don't have the
worry long range about this program. And I would ask
you what you based out on. And if you're telling
me history, I'm not going to accep okay because history
has changed. The parameters now have changed. Players are not
locked in for four years anymore. There's no eighty five
scholarships anymore. You can spend money on athletes. You cannot

(28:26):
sit around and talk about what Washington did twenty years
ago and that the same exact thing will duplicate itself
with the same exact rules.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
So you're saying, I think, I think some of it
is some of it.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I do think Washington has a little bit of an
upper hand because of who they are and what they've done,
and the fan base and the city and the history
that we are in. But we cannot, I believe, as
Washington fans sit around and just expect that because we
were dominating in the seventies, eighties, nineties, early two thousands
and hell even two years ago, that those same rules

(29:01):
will apply to us in the NIL era moving forward.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
And that's why I am less worried as a Washington fan.
Then I would let's pick a SEC school that's been
about Washington, Texas, A and M. I don't know, I
look it up, Okay, I mean, just just pick the
SEC school that has had about the same level of
success the last ten, twenty, thirty, forty fifty years as Washington.

(29:24):
I am less worried about Washington going forward for those
reasons you just pointed out. Then I would be if
I was a fan of that SEC school where I
do not have four million fans within thirty miles of
my campus, that can that I can feed, you know,
feed my NIL. Texas A and M is actually kind

(29:45):
of a I'm gonna say odd and I would soon
use that word. But they just bought Jimbo Fisher out
for eighty million. I'm just trying to think of a
program that's had about the same levels six about Oklahoma.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Can you imagine Washington doing that? By the way, Oklahoma, can.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
You imagine you doing that?

Speaker 2 (29:58):
If you dub signed a guy, I do a one
hundred million dollar deal after two years. Can you imagine
Washington saying, here's your USC won't even do it? Okay,
So why has Lincoln Riley?

Speaker 5 (30:07):
Why has Texas A and M been crapped the last
seven or eight years and Washington's gone to two final fours?

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Probably because they just hired the wrong guys. End the
story they hired the wrong guys? Was it Kevin Sumlin?

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (30:19):
They had Kevin Sumlin and they had Jimbo Fisher. I mean,
over the course of one hundred and ten years of
college football, there's going to be a six or seven
year patch. We know that better than anybody because we
lived through it with Tyrone Willingham. We've only had one
run our lifetime. Well okay, but that happens to everybody.
And I just think this. I'm not sitting around like
losing sleep over this. I got way bigger things to

(30:41):
lose sleepover. But it's to say it's a concern. I'm
I'm just curious. I am. I am not like you
where I am waking up and going, no problem, We're
good new. I don't feel that way. I am very
curious to see how Washington moves into this next era,
How the fans respond, if the financers are there, if

(31:01):
the motivation is there, if the right guy is hired
and stays here for a while, and what that looks like.
So I don't think to me there's anything wrong. I mean,
you have your opinion, that's great. I'm not sitting around
saying we're screwed at all. I'm not saying we're done
at all. I'm just saying that I am really there
are to me a buttload of unknowns about how this
thing is going to go in the next maybe five

(31:23):
to ten years.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
We're gonna break

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