April 16, 2025 • 37 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Mike Florio about the NFL Draft next week plus the two Colorado stars entering the draft, then the guys discuss the philosophy with retiring numbers in sports before reacting to some Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Where we go Mott Graft one week from to day
at Queen Anne Beer Hall, Petros Popadacus gonna join us
at four o'clock today as well, and then Larry Stone
will be with us at five pm tonight. Mike the Course,
he's gonna stop by and we'll get Mike's thoughts on
the way Championship Monday went. God, the the Florida Houston
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game feels like it was a month ago. Right, We're
gonna get Mike on in the six pm hour tonight
kind of recap that whole thing and get us thoughts
on what Danny Sprinkle has been doing with Osky basketball,
because he's just killing it in recruiting. You mentioned Hanna Steinbach. Uh,
they announced that today. That was one of the guys
that he could not talk about on yesterday's show. I'll
give you a dollar if you can name a third
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Steinbach between besides Hannas and Terry.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Name a third I was going wallet for you.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I've been hanging on to it just for you, Jackson.
Can you name a third Steinbach? Besides? I don't even
know Terry.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Could he even name a second Steinbaher?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
You know, you know Terry Steinbacher is, by the way, no, okay,
if he's a former catcher for the Ages playing the
Maguire Conseko years, all that, right. I don't even know
if there's a third Steinbach alive, by the way, I mean,
I'm sure that his parents even named Steinbacher. So we'll
talk to Mike coming up later. But the big news
of the day, I guess so far. I mean, it's
only three h five Gregory Santos. God, remember when they
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got this guy and everyone says, oh, he's a big
guy's a flame frow or sixty six k's and sixty
innings for the White Sox.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
He throws a jillion miles an hour.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
That really hasn't panned out so far for a couple reasons.
Last year's because he was banged up obviously, only played
eight games. This year after eight games, his problem is
he can't stop putting people.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
On base, which for a reliever is kind of an issue, right.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I mean, when you got a two point two whip
as a reliever and you're putting over two people on
per inning, that's a problem. And I'm looking at Gregory Santos.
In eight appearances, he's got eight hits allowed and has
not struck out a batter so far for the Mariners,
and Jerry Depoto and Justin Hollanders said we've seen enough,
and they stuck his ass in triple A and caught
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up Will Clyde.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
How about that?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Coming into this season, he had seventy seven strikeouts and
twenty three walks in his career and he goes to
zero strikeouts and eight walks. I mean, it's unbelievable. It
kind of reminds you like remember Jose Masa. We used
to joke that he would just throw to the big circle,
like he would just he'd just wind up, throw it
at the big circle up there and see where it'd
see if it could find the plate.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And he is just not able to do that.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I heard Chucking Buck talking about him this morning and
that that sinker ball is just is just sinking too
far and it's not hitting the zone.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well, I just think, look, we've had a lot of
relievers that have come through here that have given people
like mini strokes. I mean, Fernanda Rodney, obviously, Jose. The
problem with Bobby Ayola. The difference with Bobby Ayala is
that Bobby Ayela was a complete a hole. I mean
that was one of the biggest issues. But like nobody
liked the guy.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Fans don't care about that.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
The fans that ran into him in Arizona and ran
into him at the Kingdom thought he was a preck.
I mean, ask Jeff Nelson about Bobby I, Yella, next
time you see Nelly, he'll tell you how big of
a cancer he was in that locker room. So I
don't know what they thought about Fernando Rodney. I mean
Fernando Rodney. I don't know if you guys ever noticed
this or not. With him, he all like you got
that one buddy. Everybody has that one buddy where they
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always when they show up for dinner, when they show
up for a round of golf, when they show up
for a party, they look like they just puked and
their eyeballs are all blood shot, right, they just had
a bender the knight hanging out with Well, everybody's got
that guy. I don't know, maybe you don't put a
lot of guys. Dude that likes to party his ass off.
Fernanda Rodney always look like that, like he just woke
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up and puked all over the place. His eyes were
all bloodshots, like going, what's up? Guys man and he
would go out and just get his yits lit up,
or he'd strike out you know, the side and look phenomenal.
So one of the issues, obviously with this baseball team
is going to be getting the best out of this bullpen.
Obviously they don't have Brash, they don't have Gregory Santos
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at his best, and I just think when all these
guys are performing the way the back of their baseball
card says they're supposed to perform, I still think this
could be one of the better bullpens in baseball.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I agree, but.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
We got to get Santo's fixed, and we got to
get Brashed back because we've seen in the first month
of this season that is just not deep enough and
there's been way too many games that we had to
go to the non high leverage guys in high leverage
situations and over using Andre's Munos. I mean, I'm fine
with that. I want Munio's pitching as much as possible.
I'm not as big of a worry wart about over
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using your relievers as some people are, but there's just
not enough of them right now.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Well, I think you.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Need to be a little bit concerned about Munyez's usage rate?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Is that a term?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
By the way, do people say that baseball? Do kids
say things like that's an NBA term? I know management?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Whatever? Usage rate? Is that an analytics nerd thing.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I'm trying to sound smart here, so I just make
sure I'm doing the right stuf, please. But Andres Muno's
last year through how many innings did he appear in?
Fifty nine innings a year ago? And he's already got
eight under his belt before the second week of April
even really starts, man, So I mean he's on.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Pace to throw a lot of innings.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
There's no doubt this guy through sixty five in twenty
twenty two. They kind of backed off a little bit
in twenty twenty four, but the hope is that Andres
Munoz is healthy and ready to go for a stretch
run in late September and then into October. So I
do think you do need to manage it a little bit.
But I think there's a difference between managing it and
what the Mariners had been doing under Scott's service.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
And really, when I say Scotts service, I.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Still mean Jerry Depodo, right, because when you're throwing starters
five innings and you're babying these guys and taking them
out with eighty five pitches. That drives me bananas, right,
I mean iron strengthens iron.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
The more these guys throw, the more they strengthen their arm.
So I think there's a nice, comfortable middle ground that
we can find. And I don't like what they were
doing last year or two years ago, for sure. Mike
Florio with us right now.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
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how are you?
Speaker 6 (07:05):
I am doing much better than last week because you
got your phone fixed.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
See how much money you say when you don't pay me?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, well, you know what.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
We're working on that, all right, Mike and I are
having a little bit of an issue.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
All right. My people are talking to history wire transfers
not working. Yeah, we you know it's uh ticket.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Line, coming ticket line, coming ticket line coming.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
The Swiss Bank account. You know, we got caught right,
you know, laundering, So we got to kind of, you know.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Maybe I won't be crossing it like Steve larg Oh.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, Steve Largin, how about that?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Man?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah, I didn't have like twenty catches in the game
against like plumbers the Lions.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
He pulled himself out before he broke all the records. Mike.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
The draft is coming up in eight days Uh, let's
start talking about this a little bit. I think we
can lock in cam Ward number one to Tennessee. H
Brown's are staring at Carter and they're staring at Travis Hunter.
What do you think the Browns are gonna do at
number two if the draft were tonight?
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Well, look, I still don't rule out some sort of
a shock. I remember just.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
Days before draft in two thousand and one, Mike Vick
was penciled in for the then San Diego Chargers. Next
thing you know, the Falcons make a big move and
get in.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
So you never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
But it sure looks like cam Wood to the Titans.
Then it looks like Travis Hunter to the Cleveland Browns.
And then Abduall Carter available for the Giants either to
take or trade down for someone who wants him. They've
already got Brian Burns and cave On Tibadeau, but Abdul
Carter could be a Lawrence Taylor type of a player,
a dominant force. Hard for the Giants to pass that up,
but they're doing their work on quarterbacks. Wouldn't shock me
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completely if they trade out of that spot, trade down,
try to get a quarterback there, but we'll see, but
it sure feels like regardless of where they go. Top
three cam Ward Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Mike how much power does Travis Hunter really have to
dictate which side of the ball he plays on?
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Well, if he has any power, he needs to exercise
it before the card goes in. Because if you make
it known to all teams that are interested in you
that you fully expect to play both.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Sides of the ball on a full time basis, and if.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
You're not willing to let me do it, don't draft me.
That's the time to do it. And maybe he seeks
a verbal commitment from a team, then again, verbal promises
aren't worth the paper they're not printed on. But still,
this is the time to clear it up. And when
he blurted it out last week in an interview with
CBS Sports, that to me suggests that the teams that
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have been talking to him have gotten that message at
some point that this guy wants an opportunity to play
both ways full time, and I think it's important to
let him try.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
He needs to come to the conclusion on his own
that it's too much.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
John Harball, The Ravens coach suggests yesterday, there are enough
hours in the day to properly prepare to play both
receiver and cornerback. Let Travis Hunter come to that conclusion.
If you don't let him do it, he's always going
to resent you for it. Let him do it, and
then if he picks one or the other. I think
it makes sense to pick receiver. Just look at what
the highest paid receivers making and what the highest paid
corners make. Pick receiver and you become a star. And
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if he football, Darling endorsement deals, etc.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Etc.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
I think if he goes one way or the other,
it'll be a receiver. But I hope he succeeds at
his desire to have an opportunity to play both ways.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Mike, are you still following the Aaron Rodgers story or
have you gotten to a point where you just say,
wake me up when the guy signs with somebody.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Well, look, I'm a businessman, and I try to give
the people what I think they're interested in reading, and
people are interested in what Aaron Rodgers is going to do.
It's a weird situation to have the Pittsburgh Steelers in
an unprecedented posture after they make a move in.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
The trade for dk met keV that they've never done.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
They've never done something.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Like that and paid market value to someone who's never
played for them before.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
And now the Steelers on.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
Ben did knee and assuming and maintaining that position of
subservience to Aaron Rodgers until he makes a decision that
is just weird.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
That is unlike the Steelers.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
So it feels like he's waiting for something, and not
simply to miss the off season program. Many think he's
waiting for the Vikings to decide how seeing what JJ
McCarthy does or doesn't do in the off season program,
that maybe they need to go all in with Rogers
for a year like they did with Brett Farr back
in two.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Thousand and nine.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
The other thing too, and the Derek Carr news from
Friday that he's got a shoulder injury that can knock
him out.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
For the season.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
You wait and there might be an even better seat
that opens up. I don't want to name names for
fear of being accused of jinxing anyone.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
But you look at the Super Bowl contenders, something happens.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
To one of their quarterbacks, Boom, Aaron Rodgers plugged into
that spot. He enhances his chance to walk off into
the sunset with the Lombardi Trophy.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Under his arm.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Micah, the Giants working should door out because they really
like him and are concerning him where they want other
teams to think that they like him, and so potentially
they could trade down. Well.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
When the news landed the other day that they were
going to have a private workout with Shador Sanders, the
thought was, man, they really are considering him at three,
or maybe if they could trade down as low as eight,
one before the Saints at nine, where many think his
window is going to open. But then we saw that
they are going to have private workouts with other quarterback.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
They're just doing a fool work up. They're doing their homework,
and I think.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
If Shudur Sanders sensed it was a ruse and they
weren't interested, he wouldn't have agreed.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
To do it.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
There was a report a couple of weeks ago that
the Titans and Shadoor Sanders had mutually agreed to cancel
a private workout. Well, part of that may have been
Shadoor Sanders and or his dad, Dion Sanders, saying, let's
not waste our time here. If you're taking cam Ward,
then take cam Ward, but don't put my son through
the paces for something that means absolutely nothing. So I
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think the fact that the workout happened with the Giants
or will happen, I'm not sure this specific day in time,
but the fact that that's happening tells me Shadur Sanders
at least thinks there's a chance the Giants are seriously
interested and they need a quarterback. Russell Wilson Jameis Winston
are short term answers at best, if they're even short
term answers.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Mike Florio's with us, what happened with Jalen Ramsey?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Did Dolphins came out and said he didn't ask for
a deal, he didn't ask for a pay raise, yet
we're looking to trade him.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
So what happened down there.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
Well, nobody knows. And this thing is odd, this thing
is strange. I think the Dolphins are trying to maintain
any trade leverage they can, and your best trade leverage,
especially if you don't have a whole bunch of teams
trying to get the guy, is to say, fine, we'll
just keep him. And if you make it too clear
as to what happened, if there's only one team that
wants him. That team dictates the terms because they know
the Dolphins need to move on.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
They've got like.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
Twenty five million they own this year, fully guaranteed, not
twenty five twenty. They're already paid four it's a twenty
five million dollar cap charge if they trade him before
June one. They're just in a tough situation, and they
made their situation worse by making him the highest paid
cornerback in football at the time, after Patrick Curtain got
a twenty four million dollar New Year New Money Average deal.
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They fought Jalen Ramsey to twenty four to one in
early September, Like why why And the guy was thirty
then he's thirty one. Now the sun is setting on
his career. It's a weird situation and they might find
themselves in a real predicament here. But the timing is
the strangest. This is something that should have happened before
the new league year began on March twelve, before he
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received a four million dollar roster bonus. For it to
be bubbling up right now, it tells me something went down.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Something happened, and.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
They're trying to conceal exactly what occurred, because if they
tell us the truth, it's going to hurt their leverage.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
As long as we're on the Miami topic, is the
phone going to ring there with teams offering picks for
Tyreek Hill on draft Day?
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Well, if Chris Careerd, the v M of the team,
when he says yesterday he hasn't gotten any calls yet
if he's telling the truth, and why would you if
you're trying to create a market for a player, say.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Nope, nobody's called.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
If it hasn't rung yet, I don't think it's going
to be ringing. And the issue with Tyreek Hill, he
didn't have a great year last year.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
He played seventeen games. Now I had a risk injury
they hit for much of the year, but.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Still he had less than one thousand receiving yards playing
seventeen fool games. He's thirty one, He's got a lot
of money ohed this year. By next year, that contract's
going to be ripped up if it's not significantly restructured
to do to make something like thirty five thirty six
million dollars.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
So it's just a bad situation.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Another one where they gave him a new contract last summer,
and they probably regretted two key players on that team
where they gave them new contracts when they didn't really
have to.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
And now they're in a.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Situation where they're asking themselves what the hell did we do?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
And there's just a weird vibe with the Dolphins. It
feels like, you know, a couple of years.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
Ago, the window was starting to open, then it felt
like it got stuck. Now it feels like it's sliding
shut on Miami and there could be a regime change
there after this season.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Hey, Mike, I know it's kind of a college story,
but you're about to cover Shador Sanders in the NFL.
What do you make of the Buffalo is retiring his
number at Colorado?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Hey, they can do whatever they want.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
I mean some would say he was what thirteen and
eleven as a starter and one and.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Seven against top twenty five teams.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
But if that's what Colorado wants to do, that's what
Colorado has.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
The prerogative to do, right, I mean, that's their choice.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
And I don't like retiring numbers because, like, there's only
so many numbers, and if football continues for decades, centuries,
like at some point you got to stop retiring numbers.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I just don't like it. It's like it's like landfills,
Like at.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Some point we're gonna run out of place.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
To put the garbage.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
I worry about dumb things like that, like the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
At some point they're going to run out of.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
The room for all the bus I just worry about
retiring numbers.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
I don't like it.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
I like it as an unofficial thing, but you don't
want to tie yourself to something for a thousand years,
assuming that you know, the Republic lasts ten years, and
assuming that football.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Lasts one hundred years or longer. I just don't like
boxing yourself into that corner.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Well, they can unretire a jersey after everybody's dead that
remembered him playing.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
I understand that, but why retire. But if it's retired,
it's retired, why retire it. You can honor the guys
put him in the Ring of honor, although you run
out of space with that too. Every time I'm in
Kansas City, it's like they've only said so many more
names on this thing, and they got like five or
six guys on the team right now. They're probably gonna
want to put on But I digress. I just say,
find a way to honor the guy. Retiring numbers I think.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Is a mistake.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
But if Colorado wants to do it for Shador Sanders,
if they want to do it for Dion Sanders, even
though they don't have a number, if they want to
do it for more who you know the if you
guys remember they were in Bolder right.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, they can do it forever they want. Is anybody
ever unretired a number in sports?
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Well, you've had these situations where like whenkateon Manning went
to Denver and eighteen was retired. The guy for whom
it was retired his family and I think he was
still alive at the time. It puts the guy in
an awkward spot. Didn't Steve Largin do that with the
Jerry Rice?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, he let me mention it, Yes, he let he
let Well, that was a that was kind of a
misnomer because the word is is that who is the
old GM or the Sonics wits it Bob whitsit lied
about it apparently and went to Jerry Rice and said
Steve's okay with it when he really wasn't.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
And then, by the way, the Giants unretired.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Numbers looked like the jar right, the Giants elk Neighbors
number ever.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Asked to do it.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
I respect Aaron Rodgers for the fact that he didn't
accept Joe Namas offer to wear number twelve.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
In New York.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
I think you take the higher work.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
It's just the number.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
It is an objective way to identify who the player
is on the field.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Well, Mike, great stuff, and let's talk next Tuesday before
the annual mock Draft.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
All right, pal, appreciate it, all right, all right, Mike Flora.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, when you say unretired, I'm talking about like like
taking it away from a guy, right, Like your numbers
no longer retired.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
We're not going to have your number on the wall
because just allowing somebody else to wear.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
The Huskies did that with number two for Case and Williams, right,
I mean they the number two was retired and they
allowed Case and Williams to wear it. So when you
say it that way, yeah, there's a lot of teams
I'm certain that have done that, that have allowed of
player to wear a number that was supposed to be retired.
But when you say unretired, I'm thinking, like, all right,
that number two is retired.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Nobody knows who he is anymore. So take the name down.
They just can't run. Well, who's the number two that
was retired?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
They haven't retired a number for seventy five eighty years.
They've got three of them. You's got three numbers that
are supposed to be retired, and they're all being used.
I believe at least one of them is. I don't know,
but because Kyler Gordon Ward also, well.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You have number two, so many Husky players, you've got
to use every number.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Sure, well, the Huskies do have three of them. I
guarantee you that. All Right, we're gonna break. We got
a lot more to get to Petros at four. Coming
up on ninety three to three KJRFM.
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Speaker 1 (19:41):
Stupid idiot. So, the conversation we were having about unretiring numbers, uh,
We asked Florio for his thoughts on Shador Sanders getting
his number retired by Colorado, which I'm kind of, you know,
glad that the masses are ridiculing this thing. Yeah, I
mean there's not many people. No, there's not a lot,
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like even like Tyler Columbus. I mean the closest I
came to watching anybody even remotely agree with it is Columbus.
Is he working for Shaki Station by the way in Denver?
I know he's on the air down there, the former
Seahawk offensive Liven and he, Uh, did you.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Go to Colorado?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I believe he did. Was he he was blocking for Lynch?
He played for the Broncos. Yeah, but wasn't he blocking
for Lynch on the Beast Quake run? I think he
was on the.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Field for that play. Yeah, did you.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Go to Colorado? I know he played for the Broncos.
You're right about that.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
But yeah, he's from Cherry Creek High School in Colorado,
so he's a local guy.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Tyler Columbus is on Twitter saying, look, you want to
retire number, fine, but don't do it now, like wait,
like fifteen twenty years. There's a bunch of guys that
deserve to have anything like that's the closest I've seen
anybody coming to even remotely agreeing that they should do this.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
You heard Chris Kid. No, Chris Kids for it, Chris Kids,
don't kick again.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
You need to be able to drink and drive, okay,
drink and drive time Okay. You need to be able
to drink and drive, which means you got to be
twenty one years old.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I guess you mean you need to be able to
drink cruma and drive and you need to be able
to drive.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
You know what, I'll actually just say, no, you have
to be able to drink and drive. It's an art form,
and he has no idea how to handle that.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
So I think Chris Kid is disqualified from this conversation
until he hits puberty.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
How does that sound? By the way, that's all right.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Until his voice drops, he can't have an opinion on
the miner. But outside of Chris Kidd and Tyler Columbus,
I don't know anybody who thinks this is a good idea.
So we asked Florio about it. You know what do
you think he's like?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
You know, retiring numbers is do you don't want to
give it?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Damn retired? You know, whether there's a chance, he had
no idea. By the way, retiring numbers is stupid. The
Hall of Fame is stupid. Eventually they'll weren't at a room. Well,
they could just make a bigger Hall of Fame and
just like expand the thing and you know, take up
some more buildings or whatever, or build a new story.
I guess that could happen. But we talked about this
at U dubbed like you. Dub's got three retired numbers,
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and they're from way back in the day, right Chuck Carroll,
Roland Kirkby.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
And there's a third one.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I'm not sure if the top of my head who
it belongs to, but there's three of them at Washington.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
One of them is number two.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
And so we're having the conversation on the air about well,
you know, look, I mean, Cason Williams wore it. You know,
I think Aaron wy I think his dad may have
worn it back in the day. And neither one of us,
the two adults here on the air, bothered to remember
or remind anybody that. Oh, by the way, the guy
who's asked we've been kissing for the entire offseason, booking.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
A trip to New York City where's number two? The
quarterback is named Demad Williams. You moron stupid, wrong with us?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
My god, I think you get have passed because we
haven't seen demand on the field that much yet.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
We should know that though we should. We should if
you had asked.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Me, though, if you had asked me what number doesn't
Demond Williams wear, I would probably at some point come
up with. But I've said this many times in the year.
I am awful with Jersey numbers. I mean I have
always been terrible. I mean I remember the obvious, I
remember the Griffies and the Randy Johnson's and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
But yes, I am terrible. If you just say just
a random Sonic or a random Mariner that I should know.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
No way everybody know Randy Johnson wore number thirty five.
But look, I mean the retired number thing. For me,
I think it's ridiculous. I think it's border on embarrassing.
I wonder what the Colorado fan reaction. As you said,
your uncle's a big Buffalo fan, and he's like, you know,
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you can kind of sense that he's like this kind
of weird exactly, but he was.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
He did acknowledge though that This is Dion ship, and
I really do sense that Buffalo Nation.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Is behind him, is behind him no matter what.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
And why not if he came in to Washington after
he basically did what Sark did here right right, and
and they were almost as bad, if not as bad,
as the Tyrone Willingham Huskies were, and in a snap
he turned him into a national talking point.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Well and because of him, not because of the way
the team played, right thought right, sure, but they're not
a national championship contender.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I don't deserve that kind of conversation.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I mean, if Joe Blow from Missouri took over the
Colorado football team and took them first of all, Colorado,
just like Washington, should never be a one win team ever, ever, ever, ever,
So I mean pathetic right number one and number two?
How much of the conversation around Colorado was because of
Dion Sanders on his personality and what he does through.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
The media, right, I mean that huge part of it,
you know.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I mean some other dope from wherever shows up and
goes from one win to nine, We're not talking about
Colorado the way we are. We're talking about Colorado because
Deon Sanders is a lightning rod and has a mammoth
sized personality.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
But I'm totally fine by the way too.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Look, first of all, if Colorado wants to do this, great,
But you're asking me my opinion or anybody I think
it's dumb. And you know I'm talking to Petros about
this at four o'clock today. We all know what Jake
Locker meant to you, Dubb football. He doesn't mean a
lot outside of you, Dub football, Like he doesn't have that,
you know, that legacy to the average college fan. But
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to us in Seattle, living through oh to twelve in
two thousand and eight, winning the Apple Cup in twenty ten,
beating Nebraska after they kicked our ass in September in
Husky Stadium four months earlier, and you beat him in
the Holiday Ball and you got a little bit of
a sense of normalcyedback, and you finally climbed out of
the gutter. What Jake Locker means to Husky football, what
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he means to me, I'm sure what he means to
you as well, is totally different than the way people
probably view him outside of Montlake.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I get that.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
So if Colorado fans want to look at Shador Sanders
and see a guy that pulled them out of the muck.
I get it, But nobody here is talking about retiring
Jay Clacker's.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Number, right.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I just think that it could have been handled really
easily by Colorado and appeased everybody involved. And that is
just Hey, we don't retire jerseys right away, but that
doesn't mean we're not going to retire intra trophy. I
mean yeah, but even then to kind of appease Sedure,
maybe to say, hey, we're not even gonna retire Travis's
number right now.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
You know, we're gonna wait a little bit.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
And I would have no problem as a Buff fan
even if Shador just did what he did, just like Jake,
if Jake would have gone to the Titans and he
would have been a four time All Pro and won
a Super Bowl, right, I'd have no problem.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
With this number being retired to you don't.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, I just think you got it. I mean, for me,
it's all about what you did when you were on campus.
I mean that's fine. I mean you want to include
the NFL whatever, But like you know, Warren Moon's number
is not even retired at Udby, and Warren Moon won
a Rose Bowl and is in the damn Hall of
Fame and his number is not even retired. Okay, So
I don't know. I mean, it just seems like the
standards are pretty low. But it also does it doesn't
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seem like it's obvious that they're bending the knee for
whatever Dion Sanders wants to do. And like you said,
I mean, hey, look, if you're that desperate, you know,
which I don't think they should be. They're Colorado, you know,
they're not Vanderbilt. They do have some kind of history there.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, but it's like three years to be able to
bank on.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I mean, twenty sixteen they played for the conference title
against you, dub that was only eleven years ago.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Man, I mean, it's not why they want a bad
self vision and got smacked.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, but Dick, they've won a title and they've got
Heisman Trophy winners.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Right, They've got history.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
This is not a sad sack for ninety consecutive years
program that's got no history whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
So I mean, look, it's not recent history.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I'll give you that, and a lot of people that
were involved in that are probably gone by now, not
from the earth, but gone from the program. So I
can get why somebody would just say, hey, give the
guy whatever he wants. If his son getting his number
retired is part of what he needs to stay here, then.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Give it to him. Yeah, we're gonna get killed for it,
but give it to him.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Fun with audio coming up next on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
It's now time for Sufday in Digg's Fun with Audio.
Jimmy g paun Star, Jimmy mister garoppolo. Now let's have
some fun with audio.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
All right, here we go, boys and girls on a
Wednesday afternoon right here on ninety three three KJRFM. As
if you turned on the radio station thinking you were
getting ki Xi and classical music. I think anybody flips
on this station looking for like the old Cube ninety
three back in the day, looking for him so little
hip hop.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, we've been on the air for how long on FM?
Speaker 6 (28:18):
Now?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Is it four years? The day of the Russell Wilson
Trade three? That's the day we switched so whatever. We
just did this like a week agap too. It was
three years ago, a few days ago. I wonder if
anybody like you know, coming back out of town, you know,
been on a safari or whatever world cruise.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
It moved out of town, and then they're back here
visiting and they're like, hey, let's listen to Cube.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I want to flip on Eric Powers and Shelley Hart
and see what they're doing. We'll super Sam. Who are
these idiots on the air?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
What Dall's going on? All right? Here we go little
fun with audio slash hat Did you hear that? He dick?
Did you happen here? What's that? Let's start.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
During Sports Net New York's broadcast of the Mets Twins
game yesterday, color analyst Keith Hernandez, is this like literal
threw up in his mouth mid sentence while recapping a play.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Comes in and gets the ball on the run?
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Strong arm?
Speaker 7 (29:09):
Excuse me?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Got you over there?
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I just had a little up chuck, A little up chuck.
I don't think we need up chuck here. I mean
it just came out of nowhere, right in the middle
of my sentence. Sorry, what guys? What was for dinner?
Had chicken and mashed potatoes. Shouldn't produce anything?
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Really, maybe the salad with a little vinaigrettes, you think possibly,
maybe you.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Didn't chew your your lettuce thorough level of the vinagrette.
You know how good gott acid reflux on the job.
That happens every day. The media.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
The media dinner was not settling nothing. When's last time
you had a media dinner at T Mobile Park?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
All years and years? And don't they charge NOWT for that?
They do? I just go home and Waite Bucks or whatever,
go home and get my own dinner. No, you don't.
You go to Jimmy's neat for free? What are you
talking about? Well, the we're down there at Jimmy, He's
taking food home with them. Load me up, load me
up for the weekend. Dam we go to Jimmy's once
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a month.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I''m talking about talking about the other fifteen games a
month that I'm not at Jimmy's.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Well, uh, you're not going to fifteen games a month?
Oh what I'm saying? How many games a month do
you go to? On a point five?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah, like when we're at Jimmy's. Well, head over there.
I mean, look, I'll be totally honest with you. I'm
fifty damn near fifty two years old. I'm freaking tired.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I want to go home. I'm go home, right, I've
said no problem with that.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I got every now and then I'll hang around the
ballpark like a weirdover to creep and go to the
bullpen and then realize I'm a weirdo and a creep
and I want to go home, you know.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Especially if it's like April twenty eighth, then it's forty
seven degrees out at seven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
I got zero.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Interest the acid reflux thing, man, is re are you
having that yet?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Jackson just started about a year ago.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Well you might want to get used to having a
bottle of Toms the night standing by, because I went
down to a buddy of mine, went to San Diego
about a month ago, landed late. Only thing open late
at night. You know what it is, Taco bell. I'm
waking up at two o'clock in the morning baking on
his door.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Give me some jobs, man, give me some times.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Oh dude, if you knock off the brown liquor before
you know, anytime after seven o'clock and it'll help out.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, well that's not gonna happen. Did you happen to
hear that you want to go back to? Let's do that?
So Steven A.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Smith was on is this ESPN, by the way, first
take thank you claiming that Sun's owner Matt Ishbia, you know,
they just missed the playoffs and they had like the
most expensive roster in the history of the NBA, claiming
that Matt Ishbia is in danger of becoming the worst
owner in the history of the National Basketball Association.
Speaker 8 (31:58):
Matt Ishbia needs to understand Dan that right now you
are on the verge of being recognized as the worst owner.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
In the history of basketball.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
That's saying a lot. That's saying a lot. Donald Sterling
wants owned an NBA franchise. James Dolan until he recently
hired Leon Rose was on that trajectory. That's the trajectory
if you're Matt Espia that you are on right now
being recognized as arguably the worst owner in the history
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of basketball.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
So I would like to volleygain Howard on behalf of Seattle.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I don't know what you think. Well, it's a local take,
it's not the national take.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
That Howard Schultz is not the worst owner. Well, what
would be worse than losing the team for the fans?
I mean, like, how are we judging owners? I mean
we judge owners by how they serve their fan base, right,
and Howard Schultz lost the team. Like that's like handing
off Dixon when he's four years old to a babysitter.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
You go to pick him out, He's gone. I don't
know where he is. I lost him.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I mean, that's that's what he did. I mean, you're
saying it's not that. Shouldn't it be the national narrative
that doubt. Look, Donald Sterling was a racist obviously, yes,
and Howard Schultz lost the team. How can you get
worse than that?
Speaker 6 (33:17):
I would?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
I mean, I'm trying to say, well, I'm trying to
see it from a little bit more of a national perspective,
and I think I think Donald Sterling running the franchise
into the ground for thirty years and then being kicked
out of the league is a little more than Howard Schultz.
But this is Stephen A just being oh my god,
prisoner of the moment.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Matt is that's my point exactly.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Matt still has owned the team for twenty five months, right,
not twenty five years, twenty five months, and he had
two bad seasons, and so therefore he challenges Donald Sterling
and Howard Schultz's worst owners in history.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I mean, that is that is Steven A. Being steven A.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
I mean, honestly, like in regards to Howard or Don Sterling,
I mean, if I told you now, who would you
rather have owning your basketball team? Howard Schultz er Don Sterling?
I take Sterling, give him to me. Rather have a
racist than not have a team. I mean, what the
hell you out for me? I don't need to like
the guy or support the guy, even go on the
air and rip the guy and criticize the guy. But
at least we have a guy to criticize.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I don't know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I honestly wonder if you went to steven A and said, hey,
steven A, what about Howard Schultz? Like you said, ISPs
own the team for how long?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Two years? Twenty five months? Didn't Howard give our team away? Yeah?
Oh oh yeah? You forgot to remember.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
That's because nobody remembers outside Seattle who even owned the team?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yes, all right, Dick, did you happen to here? What's that? Dick?
Which one Jackson? Let's finally get to two.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Last week on ESPN, Kendrick Perkins made a guarantee, oh yes,
about what the Thunder will do in the playoffs this year.
Speaker 9 (34:50):
But I will say it is. This team going to
the NBA Finals. They're winning the wizz. Matter of fact,
I don't, I don't. I don't think it's even be
a team that's going to challenge them past six games
in the series. And I'm gonna go out on the
limits say it is. This is the best Thunder team ever.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
This is the best. This is the best Thunder team ever.
Speaker 9 (35:12):
They're deeper than the Atlantic Ocean, Pacific Ocean, Gulph of Mexico.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
However you want to call it.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
So that they have the best record in the NBA
and they have the best point differential in the NBA,
I'm concerned, I'll be honest with you, that this might
be the year that they finally get her done.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
You well, no, it's exactly the same as where we
were three months ago with the Ducks. Exactly the same.
I mean, the Ducks were one of the favorites to
win the championship. But it only takes one. And that's
what we always said in the playoffs going in with
the Ducks, we said, it only takes one. If it's
not Ohio State, it just needs to be somebody else.
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And that's the thing with the Thunder, And there are
multiple teams, the Celtics, the Calves, the Lakers. There's three
right there that are absolutely capable of knocking off Well.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I'll tell you what, would you take a little deeply
strained knee by SGA for the next couple of months, Yes,
knock him out of the playoffs? I take that you're
rooting for an injury. Damn right, I am? Are you
kidding me? I doesn't have to be any long term.
I'm not asking the guy to get polio or anything.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
He's getting a guaranteed contract. We're not taking food off
his table. Nobody blows his achilles out and we'll see
him next year. Fine by me. I'm cool with that.
I'm totally cool with that. You can push a button
make that happen.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Go for it, man, I think it'd be freaking hilarious,
just like it would be when Oregon lost to Ohio State.
How about if they become an eight at one seed
to get beat in the first round. How about their
hopes get dashed and they got kids crying outside the
arena and we're mocking them in pointing fingers.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I mean, it's that time of the year.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Whoever Oklahoma City is playing, that's our favorite basketball team.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I need Jahn Moran to play a little better than
he did last Go TVA for now.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Sure we're gonna break, Petro is gonna joy Next on
ninety three three kJ r F M you thund U
Where we go Mott Graft one week from to day
at Queen Anne Beer Hall, Petros Popadacus gonna join us
at four o'clock today as well, and then Larry Stone
will be with us at five pm tonight. Mike the Course,
he's gonna stop by and we'll get Mike's thoughts on
the way Championship Monday went. God, the the Florida Houston
(00:22):
game feels like it was a month ago. Right, We're
gonna get Mike on in the six pm hour tonight
kind of recap that whole thing and get us thoughts
on what Danny Sprinkle has been doing with Osky basketball,
because he's just killing it in recruiting. You mentioned Hanna Steinbach. Uh,
they announced that today. That was one of the guys
that he could not talk about on yesterday's show. I'll
give you a dollar if you can name a third
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Steinbach between besides Hannas and Terry.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Name a third I was going wallet for you.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I've been hanging on to it just for you, Jackson.
Can you name a third Steinbach? Besides? I don't even
know Terry.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Could he even name a second Steinbaher?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
You know, you know Terry Steinbacher is, by the way, no, okay,
if he's a former catcher for the Ages playing the
Maguire Conseko years, all that, right. I don't even know
if there's a third Steinbach alive, by the way, I mean,
I'm sure that his parents even named Steinbacher. So we'll
talk to Mike coming up later. But the big news
of the day, I guess so far. I mean, it's
only three h five Gregory Santos. God, remember when they
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got this guy and everyone says, oh, he's a big
guy's a flame frow or sixty six k's and sixty
innings for the White Sox.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
He throws a jillion miles an hour.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
That really hasn't panned out so far for a couple reasons.
Last year's because he was banged up obviously, only played
eight games. This year after eight games, his problem is
he can't stop putting people.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
On base, which for a reliever is kind of an issue, right.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I mean, when you got a two point two whip
as a reliever and you're putting over two people on
per inning, that's a problem. And I'm looking at Gregory Santos.
In eight appearances, he's got eight hits allowed and has
not struck out a batter so far for the Mariners,
and Jerry Depoto and Justin Hollanders said we've seen enough,
and they stuck his ass in triple A and caught
(02:08):
up Will Clyde.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
How about that?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Coming into this season, he had seventy seven strikeouts and
twenty three walks in his career and he goes to
zero strikeouts and eight walks. I mean, it's unbelievable. It
kind of reminds you like remember Jose Masa. We used
to joke that he would just throw to the big circle,
like he would just he'd just wind up, throw it
at the big circle up there and see where it'd
see if it could find the plate.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And he is just not able to do that.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I heard Chucking Buck talking about him this morning and
that that sinker ball is just is just sinking too
far and it's not hitting the zone.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well, I just think, look, we've had a lot of
relievers that have come through here that have given people
like mini strokes. I mean, Fernanda Rodney, obviously, Jose. The
problem with Bobby Ayola. The difference with Bobby Ayala is
that Bobby Ayela was a complete a hole. I mean
that was one of the biggest issues. But like nobody
liked the guy.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Fans don't care about that.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
The fans that ran into him in Arizona and ran
into him at the Kingdom thought he was a preck.
I mean, ask Jeff Nelson about Bobby I, Yella, next
time you see Nelly, he'll tell you how big of
a cancer he was in that locker room. So I
don't know what they thought about Fernando Rodney. I mean
Fernando Rodney. I don't know if you guys ever noticed
this or not. With him, he all like you got
that one buddy. Everybody has that one buddy where they
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always when they show up for dinner, when they show
up for a round of golf, when they show up
for a party, they look like they just puked and
their eyeballs are all blood shot, right, they just had
a bender the knight hanging out with Well, everybody's got
that guy. I don't know, maybe you don't put a
lot of guys. Dude that likes to party his ass off.
Fernanda Rodney always look like that, like he just woke
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up and puked all over the place. His eyes were
all bloodshots, like going, what's up? Guys man and he
would go out and just get his yits lit up,
or he'd strike out you know, the side and look phenomenal.
So one of the issues, obviously with this baseball team
is going to be getting the best out of this bullpen.
Obviously they don't have Brash, they don't have Gregory Santos
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at his best, and I just think when all these
guys are performing the way the back of their baseball
card says they're supposed to perform, I still think this
could be one of the better bullpens in baseball.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I agree, but.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
We got to get Santo's fixed, and we got to
get Brashed back because we've seen in the first month
of this season that is just not deep enough and
there's been way too many games that we had to
go to the non high leverage guys in high leverage
situations and over using Andre's Munos. I mean, I'm fine
with that. I want Munio's pitching as much as possible.
I'm not as big of a worry wart about over
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using your relievers as some people are, but there's just
not enough of them right now.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Well, I think you.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Need to be a little bit concerned about Munyez's usage rate?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Is that a term?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
By the way, do people say that baseball? Do kids
say things like that's an NBA term? I know management?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Whatever? Usage rate? Is that an analytics nerd thing.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I'm trying to sound smart here, so I just make
sure I'm doing the right stuf, please. But Andres Muno's
last year through how many innings did he appear in?
Fifty nine innings a year ago? And he's already got
eight under his belt before the second week of April
even really starts, man, So I mean he's on.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Pace to throw a lot of innings.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
There's no doubt this guy through sixty five in twenty
twenty two. They kind of backed off a little bit
in twenty twenty four, but the hope is that Andres
Munoz is healthy and ready to go for a stretch
run in late September and then into October. So I
do think you do need to manage it a little bit.
But I think there's a difference between managing it and
what the Mariners had been doing under Scott's service.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
And really, when I say Scotts service, I.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Still mean Jerry Depodo, right, because when you're throwing starters
five innings and you're babying these guys and taking them
out with eighty five pitches. That drives me bananas, right,
I mean iron strengthens iron.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
The more these guys throw, the more they strengthen their arm.
So I think there's a nice, comfortable middle ground that
we can find. And I don't like what they were
doing last year or two years ago, for sure. Mike
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how are you?
Speaker 6 (07:05):
I am doing much better than last week because you
got your phone fixed.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
See how much money you say when you don't pay me?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, well, you know what.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
We're working on that, all right, Mike and I are
having a little bit of an issue.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
All right. My people are talking to history wire transfers
not working. Yeah, we you know it's uh ticket.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Line, coming ticket line, coming ticket line coming.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
The Swiss Bank account. You know, we got caught right,
you know, laundering, So we got to kind of, you know.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Maybe I won't be crossing it like Steve larg Oh.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, Steve Largin, how about that?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Man?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah, I didn't have like twenty catches in the game
against like plumbers the Lions.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
He pulled himself out before he broke all the records. Mike.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
The draft is coming up in eight days Uh, let's
start talking about this a little bit. I think we
can lock in cam Ward number one to Tennessee. H
Brown's are staring at Carter and they're staring at Travis Hunter.
What do you think the Browns are gonna do at
number two if the draft were tonight?
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Well, look, I still don't rule out some sort of
a shock. I remember just.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
Days before draft in two thousand and one, Mike Vick
was penciled in for the then San Diego Chargers. Next
thing you know, the Falcons make a big move and
get in.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
So you never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
But it sure looks like cam Wood to the Titans.
Then it looks like Travis Hunter to the Cleveland Browns.
And then Abduall Carter available for the Giants either to
take or trade down for someone who wants him. They've
already got Brian Burns and cave On Tibadeau, but Abdul
Carter could be a Lawrence Taylor type of a player,
a dominant force. Hard for the Giants to pass that up,
but they're doing their work on quarterbacks. Wouldn't shock me
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completely if they trade out of that spot, trade down,
try to get a quarterback there, but we'll see, but
it sure feels like regardless of where they go. Top
three cam Ward Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Mike how much power does Travis Hunter really have to
dictate which side of the ball he plays on?
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Well, if he has any power, he needs to exercise
it before the card goes in. Because if you make
it known to all teams that are interested in you
that you fully expect to play both.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Sides of the ball on a full time basis, and if.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
You're not willing to let me do it, don't draft me.
That's the time to do it. And maybe he seeks
a verbal commitment from a team, then again, verbal promises
aren't worth the paper they're not printed on. But still,
this is the time to clear it up. And when
he blurted it out last week in an interview with
CBS Sports, that to me suggests that the teams that
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have been talking to him have gotten that message at
some point that this guy wants an opportunity to play
both ways full time, and I think it's important to
let him try.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
He needs to come to the conclusion on his own
that it's too much.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
John Harball, The Ravens coach suggests yesterday, there are enough
hours in the day to properly prepare to play both
receiver and cornerback. Let Travis Hunter come to that conclusion.
If you don't let him do it, he's always going
to resent you for it. Let him do it, and
then if he picks one or the other. I think
it makes sense to pick receiver. Just look at what
the highest paid receivers making and what the highest paid
corners make. Pick receiver and you become a star. And
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if he football, Darling endorsement deals, etc.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Etc.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
I think if he goes one way or the other,
it'll be a receiver. But I hope he succeeds at
his desire to have an opportunity to play both ways.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Mike, are you still following the Aaron Rodgers story or
have you gotten to a point where you just say,
wake me up when the guy signs with somebody.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Well, look, I'm a businessman, and I try to give
the people what I think they're interested in reading, and
people are interested in what Aaron Rodgers is going to do.
It's a weird situation to have the Pittsburgh Steelers in
an unprecedented posture after they make a move in.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
The trade for dk met keV that they've never done.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
They've never done something.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Like that and paid market value to someone who's never
played for them before.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
And now the Steelers on.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
Ben did knee and assuming and maintaining that position of
subservience to Aaron Rodgers until he makes a decision that
is just weird.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
That is unlike the Steelers.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
So it feels like he's waiting for something, and not
simply to miss the off season program. Many think he's
waiting for the Vikings to decide how seeing what JJ
McCarthy does or doesn't do in the off season program,
that maybe they need to go all in with Rogers
for a year like they did with Brett Farr back
in two.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Thousand and nine.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
The other thing too, and the Derek Carr news from
Friday that he's got a shoulder injury that can knock
him out.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
For the season.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
You wait and there might be an even better seat
that opens up. I don't want to name names for
fear of being accused of jinxing anyone.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
But you look at the Super Bowl contenders, something happens.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
To one of their quarterbacks, Boom, Aaron Rodgers plugged into
that spot. He enhances his chance to walk off into
the sunset with the Lombardi Trophy.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Under his arm.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Micah, the Giants working should door out because they really
like him and are concerning him where they want other
teams to think that they like him, and so potentially
they could trade down. Well.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
When the news landed the other day that they were
going to have a private workout with Shador Sanders, the
thought was, man, they really are considering him at three,
or maybe if they could trade down as low as eight,
one before the Saints at nine, where many think his
window is going to open. But then we saw that
they are going to have private workouts with other quarterback.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
They're just doing a fool work up. They're doing their homework,
and I think.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
If Shudur Sanders sensed it was a ruse and they
weren't interested, he wouldn't have agreed.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
To do it.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
There was a report a couple of weeks ago that
the Titans and Shadoor Sanders had mutually agreed to cancel
a private workout. Well, part of that may have been
Shadoor Sanders and or his dad, Dion Sanders, saying, let's
not waste our time here. If you're taking cam Ward,
then take cam Ward, but don't put my son through
the paces for something that means absolutely nothing. So I
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think the fact that the workout happened with the Giants
or will happen, I'm not sure this specific day in time,
but the fact that that's happening tells me Shadur Sanders
at least thinks there's a chance the Giants are seriously
interested and they need a quarterback. Russell Wilson Jameis Winston
are short term answers at best, if they're even short
term answers.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Mike Florio's with us, what happened with Jalen Ramsey?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Did Dolphins came out and said he didn't ask for
a deal, he didn't ask for a pay raise, yet
we're looking to trade him.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
So what happened down there.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
Well, nobody knows. And this thing is odd, this thing
is strange. I think the Dolphins are trying to maintain
any trade leverage they can, and your best trade leverage,
especially if you don't have a whole bunch of teams
trying to get the guy, is to say, fine, we'll
just keep him. And if you make it too clear
as to what happened, if there's only one team that
wants him. That team dictates the terms because they know
the Dolphins need to move on.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
They've got like.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
Twenty five million they own this year, fully guaranteed, not
twenty five twenty. They're already paid four it's a twenty
five million dollar cap charge if they trade him before
June one. They're just in a tough situation, and they
made their situation worse by making him the highest paid
cornerback in football at the time, after Patrick Curtain got
a twenty four million dollar New Year New Money Average deal.
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They fought Jalen Ramsey to twenty four to one in
early September, Like why why And the guy was thirty
then he's thirty one. Now the sun is setting on
his career. It's a weird situation and they might find
themselves in a real predicament here. But the timing is
the strangest. This is something that should have happened before
the new league year began on March twelve, before he
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received a four million dollar roster bonus. For it to
be bubbling up right now, it tells me something went down.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Something happened, and.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
They're trying to conceal exactly what occurred, because if they
tell us the truth, it's going to hurt their leverage.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
As long as we're on the Miami topic, is the
phone going to ring there with teams offering picks for
Tyreek Hill on draft Day?
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Well, if Chris Careerd, the v M of the team,
when he says yesterday he hasn't gotten any calls yet
if he's telling the truth, and why would you if
you're trying to create a market for a player, say.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Nope, nobody's called.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
If it hasn't rung yet, I don't think it's going
to be ringing. And the issue with Tyreek Hill, he
didn't have a great year last year.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
He played seventeen games. Now I had a risk injury
they hit for much of the year, but.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Still he had less than one thousand receiving yards playing
seventeen fool games. He's thirty one, He's got a lot
of money ohed this year. By next year, that contract's
going to be ripped up if it's not significantly restructured
to do to make something like thirty five thirty six
million dollars.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
So it's just a bad situation.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Another one where they gave him a new contract last summer,
and they probably regretted two key players on that team
where they gave them new contracts when they didn't really
have to.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
And now they're in a.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Situation where they're asking themselves what the hell did we do?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
And there's just a weird vibe with the Dolphins. It
feels like, you know, a couple of years.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
Ago, the window was starting to open, then it felt
like it got stuck. Now it feels like it's sliding
shut on Miami and there could be a regime change
there after this season.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Hey, Mike, I know it's kind of a college story,
but you're about to cover Shador Sanders in the NFL.
What do you make of the Buffalo is retiring his
number at Colorado?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Hey, they can do whatever they want.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
I mean some would say he was what thirteen and
eleven as a starter and one and.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Seven against top twenty five teams.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
But if that's what Colorado wants to do, that's what
Colorado has.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
The prerogative to do, right, I mean, that's their choice.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
And I don't like retiring numbers because, like, there's only
so many numbers, and if football continues for decades, centuries,
like at some point you got to stop retiring numbers.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I just don't like it. It's like it's like landfills,
Like at.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Some point we're gonna run out of place.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
To put the garbage.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
I worry about dumb things like that, like the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
At some point they're going to run out of.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
The room for all the bus I just worry about
retiring numbers.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
I don't like it.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
I like it as an unofficial thing, but you don't
want to tie yourself to something for a thousand years,
assuming that you know, the Republic lasts ten years, and
assuming that football.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Lasts one hundred years or longer. I just don't like
boxing yourself into that corner.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Well, they can unretire a jersey after everybody's dead that
remembered him playing.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
I understand that, but why retire. But if it's retired,
it's retired, why retire it. You can honor the guys
put him in the Ring of honor, although you run
out of space with that too. Every time I'm in
Kansas City, it's like they've only said so many more
names on this thing, and they got like five or
six guys on the team right now. They're probably gonna
want to put on But I digress. I just say,
find a way to honor the guy. Retiring numbers I think.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Is a mistake.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
But if Colorado wants to do it for Shador Sanders,
if they want to do it for Dion Sanders, even
though they don't have a number, if they want to
do it for more who you know the if you
guys remember they were in Bolder right.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, they can do it forever they want. Is anybody
ever unretired a number in sports?
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Well, you've had these situations where like whenkateon Manning went
to Denver and eighteen was retired. The guy for whom
it was retired his family and I think he was
still alive at the time. It puts the guy in
an awkward spot. Didn't Steve Largin do that with the
Jerry Rice?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, he let me mention it, Yes, he let he
let Well, that was a that was kind of a
misnomer because the word is is that who is the
old GM or the Sonics wits it Bob whitsit lied
about it apparently and went to Jerry Rice and said
Steve's okay with it when he really wasn't.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
And then, by the way, the Giants unretired.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Numbers looked like the jar right, the Giants elk Neighbors
number ever.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Asked to do it.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
I respect Aaron Rodgers for the fact that he didn't
accept Joe Namas offer to wear number twelve.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
In New York.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
I think you take the higher work.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
It's just the number.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
It is an objective way to identify who the player
is on the field.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Well, Mike, great stuff, and let's talk next Tuesday before
the annual mock Draft.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
All right, pal, appreciate it, all right, all right, Mike Flora.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, when you say unretired, I'm talking about like like
taking it away from a guy, right, Like your numbers
no longer retired.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
We're not going to have your number on the wall
because just allowing somebody else to wear.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
The Huskies did that with number two for Case and Williams, right,
I mean they the number two was retired and they
allowed Case and Williams to wear it. So when you
say it that way, yeah, there's a lot of teams
I'm certain that have done that, that have allowed of
player to wear a number that was supposed to be retired.
But when you say unretired, I'm thinking, like, all right,
that number two is retired.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Nobody knows who he is anymore. So take the name down.
They just can't run. Well, who's the number two that
was retired?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
They haven't retired a number for seventy five eighty years.
They've got three of them. You's got three numbers that
are supposed to be retired, and they're all being used.
I believe at least one of them is. I don't know,
but because Kyler Gordon Ward also, well.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You have number two, so many Husky players, you've got
to use every number.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Sure, well, the Huskies do have three of them. I
guarantee you that. All Right, we're gonna break. We got
a lot more to get to Petros at four. Coming
up on ninety three to three KJRFM.
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Speaker 1 (19:41):
Stupid idiot. So, the conversation we were having about unretiring numbers, uh,
We asked Florio for his thoughts on Shador Sanders getting
his number retired by Colorado, which I'm kind of, you know,
glad that the masses are ridiculing this thing. Yeah, I
mean there's not many people. No, there's not a lot,
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like even like Tyler Columbus. I mean the closest I
came to watching anybody even remotely agree with it is Columbus.
Is he working for Shaki Station by the way in Denver?
I know he's on the air down there, the former
Seahawk offensive Liven and he, Uh, did you.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Go to Colorado?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I believe he did. Was he he was blocking for Lynch?
He played for the Broncos. Yeah, but wasn't he blocking
for Lynch on the Beast Quake run? I think he
was on the.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Field for that play. Yeah, did you.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Go to Colorado? I know he played for the Broncos.
You're right about that.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
But yeah, he's from Cherry Creek High School in Colorado,
so he's a local guy.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Tyler Columbus is on Twitter saying, look, you want to
retire number, fine, but don't do it now, like wait,
like fifteen twenty years. There's a bunch of guys that
deserve to have anything like that's the closest I've seen
anybody coming to even remotely agreeing that they should do this.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
You heard Chris Kid. No, Chris Kids for it, Chris Kids,
don't kick again.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
You need to be able to drink and drive, okay,
drink and drive time Okay. You need to be able
to drink and drive, which means you got to be
twenty one years old.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I guess you mean you need to be able to
drink cruma and drive and you need to be able
to drive.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
You know what, I'll actually just say, no, you have
to be able to drink and drive. It's an art form,
and he has no idea how to handle that.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
So I think Chris Kid is disqualified from this conversation
until he hits puberty.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
How does that sound? By the way, that's all right.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Until his voice drops, he can't have an opinion on
the miner. But outside of Chris Kidd and Tyler Columbus,
I don't know anybody who thinks this is a good idea.
So we asked Florio about it. You know what do
you think he's like?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
You know, retiring numbers is do you don't want to
give it?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Damn retired? You know, whether there's a chance, he had
no idea. By the way, retiring numbers is stupid. The
Hall of Fame is stupid. Eventually they'll weren't at a room. Well,
they could just make a bigger Hall of Fame and
just like expand the thing and you know, take up
some more buildings or whatever, or build a new story.
I guess that could happen. But we talked about this
at U dubbed like you. Dub's got three retired numbers,
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and they're from way back in the day, right Chuck Carroll,
Roland Kirkby.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
And there's a third one.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I'm not sure if the top of my head who
it belongs to, but there's three of them at Washington.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
One of them is number two.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
And so we're having the conversation on the air about well,
you know, look, I mean, Cason Williams wore it. You know,
I think Aaron wy I think his dad may have
worn it back in the day. And neither one of us,
the two adults here on the air, bothered to remember
or remind anybody that. Oh, by the way, the guy
who's asked we've been kissing for the entire offseason, booking.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
A trip to New York City where's number two? The
quarterback is named Demad Williams. You moron stupid, wrong with us?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
My god, I think you get have passed because we
haven't seen demand on the field that much yet.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
We should know that though we should. We should if
you had asked.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Me, though, if you had asked me what number doesn't
Demond Williams wear, I would probably at some point come
up with. But I've said this many times in the year.
I am awful with Jersey numbers. I mean I have
always been terrible. I mean I remember the obvious, I
remember the Griffies and the Randy Johnson's and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
But yes, I am terrible. If you just say just
a random Sonic or a random Mariner that I should know.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
No way everybody know Randy Johnson wore number thirty five.
But look, I mean the retired number thing. For me,
I think it's ridiculous. I think it's border on embarrassing.
I wonder what the Colorado fan reaction. As you said,
your uncle's a big Buffalo fan, and he's like, you know,
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you can kind of sense that he's like this kind
of weird exactly, but he was.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
He did acknowledge though that This is Dion ship, and
I really do sense that Buffalo Nation.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Is behind him, is behind him no matter what.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
And why not if he came in to Washington after
he basically did what Sark did here right right, and
and they were almost as bad, if not as bad,
as the Tyrone Willingham Huskies were, and in a snap
he turned him into a national talking point.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Well and because of him, not because of the way
the team played, right thought right, sure, but they're not
a national championship contender.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I don't deserve that kind of conversation.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I mean, if Joe Blow from Missouri took over the
Colorado football team and took them first of all, Colorado,
just like Washington, should never be a one win team ever, ever, ever, ever,
So I mean pathetic right number one and number two?
How much of the conversation around Colorado was because of
Dion Sanders on his personality and what he does through.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
The media, right, I mean that huge part of it,
you know.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I mean some other dope from wherever shows up and
goes from one win to nine, We're not talking about
Colorado the way we are. We're talking about Colorado because
Deon Sanders is a lightning rod and has a mammoth
sized personality.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
But I'm totally fine by the way too.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Look, first of all, if Colorado wants to do this, great,
But you're asking me my opinion or anybody I think
it's dumb. And you know I'm talking to Petros about
this at four o'clock today. We all know what Jake
Locker meant to you, Dubb football. He doesn't mean a
lot outside of you, Dub football, Like he doesn't have that,
you know, that legacy to the average college fan. But
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to us in Seattle, living through oh to twelve in
two thousand and eight, winning the Apple Cup in twenty ten,
beating Nebraska after they kicked our ass in September in
Husky Stadium four months earlier, and you beat him in
the Holiday Ball and you got a little bit of
a sense of normalcyedback, and you finally climbed out of
the gutter. What Jake Locker means to Husky football, what
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he means to me, I'm sure what he means to
you as well, is totally different than the way people
probably view him outside of Montlake.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I get that.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
So if Colorado fans want to look at Shador Sanders
and see a guy that pulled them out of the muck.
I get it, But nobody here is talking about retiring
Jay Clacker's.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Number, right.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I just think that it could have been handled really
easily by Colorado and appeased everybody involved. And that is
just Hey, we don't retire jerseys right away, but that
doesn't mean we're not going to retire intra trophy. I
mean yeah, but even then to kind of appease Sedure,
maybe to say, hey, we're not even gonna retire Travis's
number right now.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
You know, we're gonna wait a little bit.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
And I would have no problem as a Buff fan
even if Shador just did what he did, just like Jake,
if Jake would have gone to the Titans and he
would have been a four time All Pro and won
a Super Bowl, right, I'd have no problem.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
With this number being retired to you don't.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, I just think you got it. I mean, for me,
it's all about what you did when you were on campus.
I mean that's fine. I mean you want to include
the NFL whatever, But like you know, Warren Moon's number
is not even retired at Udby, and Warren Moon won
a Rose Bowl and is in the damn Hall of
Fame and his number is not even retired. Okay, So
I don't know. I mean, it just seems like the
standards are pretty low. But it also does it doesn't
(26:40):
seem like it's obvious that they're bending the knee for
whatever Dion Sanders wants to do. And like you said,
I mean, hey, look, if you're that desperate, you know,
which I don't think they should be. They're Colorado, you know,
they're not Vanderbilt. They do have some kind of history there.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, but it's like three years to be able to
bank on.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I mean, twenty sixteen they played for the conference title
against you, dub that was only eleven years ago.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Man, I mean, it's not why they want a bad
self vision and got smacked.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, but Dick, they've won a title and they've got
Heisman Trophy winners.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Right, They've got history.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
This is not a sad sack for ninety consecutive years
program that's got no history whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
So I mean, look, it's not recent history.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I'll give you that, and a lot of people that
were involved in that are probably gone by now, not
from the earth, but gone from the program. So I
can get why somebody would just say, hey, give the
guy whatever he wants. If his son getting his number
retired is part of what he needs to stay here, then.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Give it to him. Yeah, we're gonna get killed for it,
but give it to him.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Fun with audio coming up next on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
It's now time for Sufday in Digg's Fun with Audio.
Jimmy g paun Star, Jimmy mister garoppolo. Now let's have
some fun with audio.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
All right, here we go, boys and girls on a
Wednesday afternoon right here on ninety three three KJRFM. As
if you turned on the radio station thinking you were
getting ki Xi and classical music. I think anybody flips
on this station looking for like the old Cube ninety
three back in the day, looking for him so little
hip hop.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, we've been on the air for how long on FM?
Speaker 6 (28:18):
Now?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Is it four years? The day of the Russell Wilson
Trade three? That's the day we switched so whatever. We
just did this like a week agap too. It was
three years ago, a few days ago. I wonder if
anybody like you know, coming back out of town, you know,
been on a safari or whatever world cruise.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
It moved out of town, and then they're back here
visiting and they're like, hey, let's listen to Cube.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I want to flip on Eric Powers and Shelley Hart
and see what they're doing. We'll super Sam. Who are
these idiots on the air?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
What Dall's going on? All right? Here we go little
fun with audio slash hat Did you hear that? He dick?
Did you happen here? What's that? Let's start.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
During Sports Net New York's broadcast of the Mets Twins
game yesterday, color analyst Keith Hernandez, is this like literal
threw up in his mouth mid sentence while recapping a play.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Comes in and gets the ball on the run?
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Strong arm?
Speaker 7 (29:09):
Excuse me?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Got you over there?
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I just had a little up chuck, A little up chuck.
I don't think we need up chuck here. I mean
it just came out of nowhere, right in the middle
of my sentence. Sorry, what guys? What was for dinner?
Had chicken and mashed potatoes. Shouldn't produce anything?
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Really, maybe the salad with a little vinaigrettes, you think possibly,
maybe you.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Didn't chew your your lettuce thorough level of the vinagrette.
You know how good gott acid reflux on the job.
That happens every day. The media.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
The media dinner was not settling nothing. When's last time
you had a media dinner at T Mobile Park?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
All years and years? And don't they charge NOWT for that?
They do? I just go home and Waite Bucks or whatever,
go home and get my own dinner. No, you don't.
You go to Jimmy's neat for free? What are you
talking about? Well, the we're down there at Jimmy, He's
taking food home with them. Load me up, load me
up for the weekend. Dam we go to Jimmy's once
(30:20):
a month.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I''m talking about talking about the other fifteen games a
month that I'm not at Jimmy's.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Well, uh, you're not going to fifteen games a month?
Oh what I'm saying? How many games a month do
you go to? On a point five?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah, like when we're at Jimmy's. Well, head over there.
I mean, look, I'll be totally honest with you. I'm
fifty damn near fifty two years old. I'm freaking tired.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I want to go home. I'm go home, right, I've
said no problem with that.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I got every now and then I'll hang around the
ballpark like a weirdover to creep and go to the
bullpen and then realize I'm a weirdo and a creep
and I want to go home, you know.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Especially if it's like April twenty eighth, then it's forty
seven degrees out at seven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
I got zero.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Interest the acid reflux thing, man, is re are you
having that yet?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Jackson just started about a year ago.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Well you might want to get used to having a
bottle of Toms the night standing by, because I went
down to a buddy of mine, went to San Diego
about a month ago, landed late. Only thing open late
at night. You know what it is, Taco bell. I'm
waking up at two o'clock in the morning baking on
his door.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Give me some jobs, man, give me some times.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Oh dude, if you knock off the brown liquor before
you know, anytime after seven o'clock and it'll help out.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, well that's not gonna happen. Did you happen to
hear that you want to go back to? Let's do that?
So Steven A.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Smith was on is this ESPN, by the way, first
take thank you claiming that Sun's owner Matt Ishbia, you know,
they just missed the playoffs and they had like the
most expensive roster in the history of the NBA, claiming
that Matt Ishbia is in danger of becoming the worst
owner in the history of the National Basketball Association.
Speaker 8 (31:58):
Matt Ishbia needs to understand Dan that right now you
are on the verge of being recognized as the worst owner.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
In the history of basketball.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
That's saying a lot. That's saying a lot. Donald Sterling
wants owned an NBA franchise. James Dolan until he recently
hired Leon Rose was on that trajectory. That's the trajectory
if you're Matt Espia that you are on right now
being recognized as arguably the worst owner in the history
(32:34):
of basketball.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
So I would like to volleygain Howard on behalf of Seattle.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I don't know what you think. Well, it's a local take,
it's not the national take.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
That Howard Schultz is not the worst owner. Well, what
would be worse than losing the team for the fans?
I mean, like, how are we judging owners? I mean
we judge owners by how they serve their fan base, right,
and Howard Schultz lost the team. Like that's like handing
off Dixon when he's four years old to a babysitter.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
You go to pick him out, He's gone. I don't
know where he is. I lost him.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I mean, that's that's what he did. I mean, you're
saying it's not that. Shouldn't it be the national narrative
that doubt. Look, Donald Sterling was a racist obviously, yes,
and Howard Schultz lost the team. How can you get
worse than that?
Speaker 6 (33:17):
I would?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
I mean, I'm trying to say, well, I'm trying to
see it from a little bit more of a national perspective,
and I think I think Donald Sterling running the franchise
into the ground for thirty years and then being kicked
out of the league is a little more than Howard Schultz.
But this is Stephen A just being oh my god,
prisoner of the moment.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Matt is that's my point exactly.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Matt still has owned the team for twenty five months, right,
not twenty five years, twenty five months, and he had
two bad seasons, and so therefore he challenges Donald Sterling
and Howard Schultz's worst owners in history.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I mean, that is that is Steven A. Being steven A.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
I mean, honestly, like in regards to Howard or Don Sterling,
I mean, if I told you now, who would you
rather have owning your basketball team? Howard Schultz er Don Sterling?
I take Sterling, give him to me. Rather have a
racist than not have a team. I mean, what the
hell you out for me? I don't need to like
the guy or support the guy, even go on the
air and rip the guy and criticize the guy. But
at least we have a guy to criticize.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I don't know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I honestly wonder if you went to steven A and said, hey,
steven A, what about Howard Schultz? Like you said, ISPs
own the team for how long?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Two years? Twenty five months? Didn't Howard give our team away? Yeah?
Oh oh yeah? You forgot to remember.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
That's because nobody remembers outside Seattle who even owned the team?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yes, all right, Dick, did you happen to here? What's that? Dick?
Which one Jackson? Let's finally get to two.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Last week on ESPN, Kendrick Perkins made a guarantee, oh yes,
about what the Thunder will do in the playoffs this year.
Speaker 9 (34:50):
But I will say it is. This team going to
the NBA Finals. They're winning the wizz. Matter of fact,
I don't, I don't. I don't think it's even be
a team that's going to challenge them past six games
in the series. And I'm gonna go out on the
limits say it is. This is the best Thunder team ever.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
This is the best. This is the best Thunder team ever.
Speaker 9 (35:12):
They're deeper than the Atlantic Ocean, Pacific Ocean, Gulph of Mexico.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
However you want to call it.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
So that they have the best record in the NBA
and they have the best point differential in the NBA,
I'm concerned, I'll be honest with you, that this might
be the year that they finally get her done.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
You well, no, it's exactly the same as where we
were three months ago with the Ducks. Exactly the same.
I mean, the Ducks were one of the favorites to
win the championship. But it only takes one. And that's
what we always said in the playoffs going in with
the Ducks, we said, it only takes one. If it's
not Ohio State, it just needs to be somebody else.
(35:53):
And that's the thing with the Thunder, And there are
multiple teams, the Celtics, the Calves, the Lakers. There's three
right there that are absolutely capable of knocking off Well.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I'll tell you what, would you take a little deeply
strained knee by SGA for the next couple of months, Yes,
knock him out of the playoffs? I take that you're
rooting for an injury. Damn right, I am? Are you
kidding me? I doesn't have to be any long term.
I'm not asking the guy to get polio or anything.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
He's getting a guaranteed contract. We're not taking food off
his table. Nobody blows his achilles out and we'll see
him next year. Fine by me. I'm cool with that.
I'm totally cool with that. You can push a button
make that happen.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Go for it, man, I think it'd be freaking hilarious,
just like it would be when Oregon lost to Ohio State.
How about if they become an eight at one seed
to get beat in the first round. How about their
hopes get dashed and they got kids crying outside the
arena and we're mocking them in pointing fingers.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I mean, it's that time of the year.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Whoever Oklahoma City is playing, that's our favorite basketball team.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I need Jahn Moran to play a little better than
he did last Go TVA for now.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Sure we're gonna break, Petro is gonna joy Next on
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