August 15, 2024 • 27 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Bret Boone about the state of the Mariners after getting swept in Detroit, then continue to take calls from fans.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coming to you live from our Elliot Avenue studios of
Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R FM. It's
time for our weekly conversation with former Mariners all star
Brett Boone, brought to you by Venue Kings. Visit venue
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here's SOFTI and Dick.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
All right, Bick.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
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to town in this stadium, in this state. Adam, I
think we got a much better shot to win that
game than people think. By the way, we'll talk about
that later. But joining us right now on the air.
He is our shrink. He is our therapist.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh he's gone. Okay, Well you know what everyone.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
They didn't want to talk about the Mariners.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I mean with you, hey, dude, have.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
We reached that point where it's Loop Penello stories now
with Brett Boone?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
No, I don't think we have either.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
That happens when they are seriously out of playoff contention,
which they are.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oh God, if they get to a point where it's
we had Boonie on. Was it last year or was
it three years ago twenty twenty one where the team
was so bad that there was nothing left to talk
about but have Brett.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Was at the beginning of the year before they made
the run.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
We had Booty tell Lou Panella stories on the air.
Now there's their low watermark. Don't you know that?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
They have not been three games out all season long
until today?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Thank you, Dick.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
That makes me feel much better. Brett Boone with us, Boney,
do we have you?
Speaker 6 (01:24):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (01:24):
What would you like to know about Lou this week?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Okay? How about this? How about this?
Speaker 8 (01:29):
Let's talk about the Brett Boone podcast?
Speaker 7 (01:31):
Shall we?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
There you go?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
What would Lou's reaction be to everything that happened in
Detroit with this offense?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
How would Lou have handled.
Speaker 8 (01:39):
I'll tell you what he It would be entertaining from
a player's perspective. Now we'd be getting out of there
quick and let Lou do his thing. But yeah, wouldn't
it would and it would not be pretty.
Speaker 7 (01:54):
This wasn't pretty.
Speaker 8 (01:56):
I'll tell you what I had. I was watching the
game and when it started off, they walked for.
Speaker 7 (02:05):
In the first thing, they said, all right, well, they're
gonna get up.
Speaker 8 (02:07):
You never want to lose two out of three Detroit,
but they're gonna take this. One's throwing, he's shoving. And
then my Aida comes into the game. And my Aid
has had his struggles this year. He's got a six
plus Ernie, but he's pitching like old Maaida, And I said, man,
the way the Mariners are swinging right now, he might
be tough. And he pitched five inn he's pretty darn
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good and kept him in the game. And then the
Baiez homer. You know, he's got five homers this year
off Moonhos and I can't and I can't put it
on Moon.
Speaker 7 (02:37):
He's been great.
Speaker 8 (02:37):
He's been great, and that's going to happen on a cagion.
But just you can't keep putting yourself you know, you're
in position to win every night. It seems like I
look up in the fifth any of them, there's one rod,
there's zero runs, and it keeps going, and it's it's
tough at this stage of the season. You got forty
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games to go. The thing I don't like about it,
why it's trending right now, is the way Houston had
a day off today it's more eighth straight.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
They're watching this.
Speaker 8 (03:05):
They're watching this, and they got Berlander coming back at
the right time. Tucker's getting closer to coming back. Alvarez
is starting to be the MVP that he's been the
last year's That bullpen's coming on strong. At the beginning
of the year, remember all that problem they had with
Hater and Presley, they were thirteen in the American League.
Speaker 7 (03:23):
Their bullpen, by.
Speaker 8 (03:24):
The way, now is number two. And it seems like
they're hitting their stride at the right time. And they're
watching the Mariners right now and they know that they're
just having trouble scoring. Rolex Julio comes out of the
you know, doesn't play today after last night, kind of
tweaking it on that running down the first base.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
Things aren't going very good right now, boys, And.
Speaker 8 (03:47):
All I can say is, if you're in that clubhouse
at this time, you're going to go up and down.
You won two out of three from the Phillies. The
city's on fire, you sweep the Mets. Everybody's excited than this.
Now we're on the other side of the Ledger, and
I'm all for fans voicing their opinions, and they're pissed off,
and they should be. And that's as players, we've got
to be able to take that. But you got forty
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games to go. We were up ten games. Five weeks later,
we're in second place. Now we're three games out. So
it can change in a heartbeat either way. It's just this,
this offense gotta find a way, gotta find a way,
and it's useless to talk about managers or front office
or whatever. It is what it is right now. At
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the break, everybody was kind of you know, the consensus was, Hey,
that did a pretty good job for what was available
on the market. They kind of hit their needs, got
the players they needed. Now that there's no production, especially
going to Detroit, you can't lose three right now in Detroit.
Everybody's in en up for it. And that's the way
it is at this stage. You've got to just kind
of settle down and let's see how this week plays out.
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Go rattle off five or six out of seven. You
change the complete narrative. But right now, these guys are
feeling it right now. This this is a big one
to lose today. The way they lost after losing two
to Detroit in a pennant race, when Houston, just sitting
there with a day off watching, Uh, this is going.
This is some soul search, and these guys got to
come back and get it going against Gat and it
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doesn't get easy. You got schemes your next game and
then the Dodgors Brett.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
I know that Scott is managing on the blade of
a knife every night because his offense doesn't get him
any wiggle room. But it does seem like there's a
lot of decisions that are being you know, not hindsight
being twenty twenty, it's more like foresight, like what the
hell's he doing here? So the last couple of days,
talk about the.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Decisions he's made, Pulling.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Wu after eighty five pitches, Pulling Miller after ninety pitches
after they're dominating, pulling Munios yesterday after having a great
ninth inning, and not pitch him in the tent, not
bunting it yesterday when they haven't been able to score
a run, and god, you know in two days in
the extra inning. So talk about some of those decisions,
and did you have foresight in any of those, saying,
as Scott, I don't know what you're doing here.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
Well, here's the thing, and Unfortunately, in today's game, it's
different than it was. You know, you mentioned Lou at
the top. Well, Lou, Lou's do one what Lou wants
to do, and he's never taken a guy out of
the game with eighty five pitches. You know my feelings
on that. I think, what the place we're at in
Major League Baseball and babying these pictures and oh, you've
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got ninety pitches, great job. It's nonsense, especially when you're
these big horse type pitchers. I mean, these guys are machines,
and to hold them when that is your strength, it's
like go nine inning's one time. That being said, managing
today's game, it's a different world, and I can't be
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as critical because I don't know that Scotty's making those decisions.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
Maybe he is, maybe he isn't.
Speaker 8 (06:48):
If he is, I disagree with it. Yeah, but he
might not be making those decisions. He might have orders
from the top that here's here's our game plan before
the day. You know, back in the day, we'd have
our hitters meeting, we have our pictures meeting with our skipper,
with our bench coach, with our pitching coach, hitting coach.
That's who makes all the decisions. Nothing comes from an
analytical team who this is the game plan before we're
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going to take this guy at eighty five pitches, he's out.
It doesn't matter where we're at the game, this is
what we do. So so it's tough for me to
to you know, because I know how the culture is
now and it might not be him making that decision.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I don't know if Jerry's making those calls literally in
the moment, but I think that there's a philosophy and
a map that they follow for all that.
Speaker 8 (07:36):
I think there's a game plan, there's a script. I
don't think. I don't think. I don't think Jerry depots
up in his up in his booth making a phone
call to service in the dugout the eighty four pitch mark. No,
I think I think it's predetermined before the game where
we're headed. Well, let me ask you a year ago,
we were talking about this with Kirby when he had
that post. You know that that interview after the game
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where he took it back. Can Hey, I didn't mean
to say that. Obviously it was a script, and hey,
I don't go past x amount.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Of what are you talking about?
Speaker 8 (08:08):
I've never I've never played with a pitcher that knew
how many pitches you're.
Speaker 7 (08:11):
Going to throw?
Speaker 8 (08:11):
That gay right, you're gonna keep going.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
You're hiring along with Brian and and and analytics.
Speaker 8 (08:20):
You get all the analytics. You've got the wear and
tear on the arm. Where is a certain picture at
in season? How many reps has he had? And everybody's different.
Before the game, there's a sheet and it's kind of
here's where we're going. And that's my understanding. I'm not
in the dugout. I'm not in those pregame uh meetings,
so I don't have access to that. Nobody does except
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for the internal people. But from what I'm hearing around
the game, that's kind of how it goes.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
And before the game starts, there's already a script.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
It's these aren't decisions aren't just made on the plot,
they're already predetermined.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Well, let me ask you this, Booney, Brett Boone's with
us courtesy of Venue Kings. You mentioned manager, you know, whatever,
useless to talk about.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I just agree. I think Jerry Depoto has a once in.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
A career rotation for him as a general manager, and
he better damn well believed that Scott Servis is the
guy to get him to the playoffs, to take advantage
of that come postseason time. If he doesn't, he should
fire him tonight. So I guess I would just ask
you what has Scott's Service shown you that leads you
to believe that they won't be better off without him,
or if they fire him, that he brings something to
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the table that nobody else can bring.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
Right now, you can't, well just say nobody else.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
There's a lot of people that can bring that are
very capable, but it's Scott Service's ship right now and
I'm not in there.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Should it be? Should it be? Should it be? Moving forward? Phil?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
That's fired Joe Girardi after two months, hired Bobby Thompson
and went to the World Series.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
Well, absolutely, definitely.
Speaker 8 (09:47):
A shakeup during a season sometimes really works, sometimes it doesn't,
And then you're sitting there going, well, was.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
It worth the shake up?
Speaker 8 (09:54):
Now? If you're taught if we get to the playoffs
and we are not in the playoffs, well those are
going to be some value it. As of now, the
Poto's given the players that we thought were necessary to
make a playoff push, and we won't even talk about
the pitching because we always talk about it. Everybody knows
about the pitching. Number one, number one, number one, we
get it. But he's got the front office has gotten
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the players that we think we need now for right now,
it's on the players. It's always on the players. At
the end of I've been on I've been on some
bad teams where we were pretty talented. You know, I
played under a horrible team in two thousand and Bruce
Bochie was my skipper. I know what everybody thinks of
Bruce Bochie. It was Bochie the reason we've finished the
fourth place now because we couldn't get anybody out.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
We didn't have any pitching. Well, this is the this
is the reverse.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
Got all the pitching in the world and all the offense. Yeah,
I think it's a weird Uh, it's a weird data
point that you're leading not just the American League, all of
baseball and pitching and you're not in the playoff picture
as of the day. That's weird. It's almost impossible, but
that's where we're at right now. I think if you
gets to the playoffs now, there's going to be reevaluating
starting the top on what's going to go on with
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this franchise going forward. But in the meantime for the
next forty games, it's the players in that room, and
they win and lose games, and to sit.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
Here and put it on service.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
No, now you get to the end, Hey, I got
you the players, It doesn't matter what happened. The bottom
line is your name's at the top of that lineup card,
and that's the guy that always goes down. Can't get
rid of all the players. But the illness of this
is on the players to get it done, especially on
the offensive side, and they're not getting it done right now.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Well, they're also on pace to be the only team
in the Wild Card ERA to have a double digit
division lead and not make the playoffs if they don't
end up doing that too, So they got that to
hang their head on. Hey, Booney, was Julio mishandled the
last few weeks?
Speaker 8 (11:43):
I don't think so. You know, I've had some ankle's
brains in my life. I'd never missed three weeks of
my life. I understand they're tough, and when you get
a high one, they are nasty.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
I'm not saying he was milking and everything, No, not
at all.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
But I think if anything. In today's era, over h
we're overly cautious. You know, back in the day, you're
chomping at the bit. You're I got Rick Griffin down
to the training room. I'm going to Rick and say, listen,
my ankle's fine, taped and crap out of it and
let's go.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
And I'll probably be in a week.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
Rick's gonna look at me.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
Well, you think that's guy.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
I don't care. If it's a good idea, let's go.
And that's the way we handle things. It's not that
way anymore. They're overly cautious today. I don't think they
rushed him back. You know, I've had high ankles brade
two three weeks is not rushing you back from that.
So I think they're overly cautious.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
If anything.
Speaker 8 (12:35):
So the way that was handled now, it just happened
to I don't know what he did running down the line.
He smelled the base hit, you know, he came back,
he had he had the rough five at bats. Next day,
he smells a hit man, he's gonna get a hit,
which we all do. You go into overdrive and your
subconscious takes over. You'll do anything to get to that
bag for that knock and he tweaked an ankle. That's
a little bit tender. So I, from all indications, you
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wanted to play today. And once again, I don't think
it's just a managerial decision. I read the quote, Julio
wanted to play. I figured at keep him out today. Okay,
well maybe that wasn't Scott's choice. Now Scott's gonna wear
own it because he's the skipper and he puts the
pen in the lineup. Yeah, but that might have been
an internal decision as well as under no conditions does
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Julio play today. That's coming from the top, and these
are all hypotheticals. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
I don't have facts on this, but that's just what
I'm thinking.
Speaker 8 (13:26):
And then we go out and we have a press
conference that we say what we're supposed to say. That's
that's kind of the of the new Major League Baseball
in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I know there's a lot of things I would get
on Scott for the Julio situation. Is not one of them,
because that's way over his head. I totally agree on that.
I think it was hammil poorly. He's not healthy, booty,
and he's playing dh and he's not all the way back.
If he were all the way back, he'd be playing
in the outfield, and he's not. I think they rushed
him back too early and he's banged up again. Who
knows how long he'll be out for well, Stevid, but
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Susan pointed this out two days ago.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
There wasn't even a rehabit side for the guy, right.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
But also, don't you think too there's a little bit
of man, it's pretty important right now to get him back.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
And I don't want to say.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Okay, so let me ask you a question. Let me
just cut you off for a second.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
If it's important to get him back, because these games
are valuable and they're and they're really important to win, now,
why are we pulling pictures in eighty five pitches? I
mean it's like, where we are you doing this? So
you're not if you're gonna, if you're gonna bring Julio
back because the games are super important, then why are
you yanking your starters after eighty five?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
It's like you're halfway in, halfway out. What are we
doing here?
Speaker 7 (14:34):
Right?
Speaker 8 (14:35):
It's it's it's two points that are going directly against
one another. We're gonna totally be cautious. We're gonna be
cautious here, and we're gonna be really aggressive here. For me,
right now, I'm really aggressive. I'm Julio Rodriguez. I'm going, hey,
is eighty me better than the alternative? The answer is yes.
I'm on the field. That's the way we do it.
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That's the way players played when I play, that's how
we I look at that lineup. I'm not in the lineup.
I'm going crazy. I have to be in that lineup
because I know we're better when I'm in it.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Brett.
Speaker 8 (15:08):
That's how guys are wired. But it's a different game today.
It's a different game. It's not handled. I watched I
watched the guy get hit by a pitch the other
day and walked into the dugout like he just took
himself out of the game. I've never seen that in
my life.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
It's like, you get hit.
Speaker 8 (15:23):
Your elbow blows up. You be the tough guy. You
go to first base, you tell you wave off everybody
that's coming out to you. You know, actually you're kind
of embarrassing your trainer. You go around and then you
go out and you grab your glove and you start
running out for defense, and you got two or three
trainers trying to tackle. You say, and we got to
get some ice in that thing. That's where I watched
the player the other day. Did by the pitcher he
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walked into the dugout. Oh yes, he's done. That's the
way it is, and it's not their fault. That's the
way the game is, ay, And that's where how players
are brought up through.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
The minor league system.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
If you're not one hundred percent, you do not play.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
That's the way it is that I like it.
Speaker 8 (16:04):
Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
You walked up to the plate every time, whether you
were ten for your last twenty or oh for your
last twenty, like the biggest badass in the bar, like you.
Speaker 8 (16:12):
Knew you were gonna make it.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah I could, right, But you walked up there with confidence.
Every time. These guys walk the poat. I watched their body.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Language every single game, and it shows me no confidence
that they're gonna get a base hit every time.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Are you noticing that too?
Speaker 7 (16:28):
I don't know if it's that.
Speaker 8 (16:29):
I don't know if it's that, because yeah, I walked
to the plate sometimes and it's just a thing.
Speaker 7 (16:34):
I can look at that picture and he knows he's
in trouble.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
I've also been really struggling not seeing the ball and
I walk up and I premeditate this.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
I'll sit on deck and the music starts playing.
Speaker 8 (16:44):
I'm going, all right, I got I gotta really get
this picture to know that, hey, don't mess with meat it.
I stand in the boss, I lock that. I lock
eyes with that picture and he looks at me and
kind of paints a two steamer away and kind of
gives me to look like body. I know you ain't
feeling it that that act ave works. So I've tried
both sides. I don't know if you can necessarily read
the body language. It's just got to be. It's a culture.
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I've said this from the beginning. It's creating a culture
in that clubhouse, a winning culture that you come to
the ballpark rain or shine, and we go out and
kick somebody's butt.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
And that's what's gotta be.
Speaker 8 (17:16):
And I don't necessarily think and you know, I don't
see that. I love these guys. I pull form as
hard as anybody. And it's really tough right now because
you get disappointed. And I'm a fan too, you know,
I try to not get emotional one way or the other.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
But I see losing.
Speaker 8 (17:30):
Three games in Detroit, where man, we're sitting there, and
then you go back and you think a month and
a half ago we had a ten game lad, how
could you blow that? And then oh, that doesn't matter.
What's done is done. Now it's going forward. What do
we do? And I watched Houston over there and and
they just went eight straight and we just get swept
by Detroit. So I get emotional as a fan. I
gotta reel myself in and go, wait a minute, Okay,
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let's see how this.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
Next week goes.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
Because next week they could win six out of seven.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
We could be sitting here having a completely different conversation.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
Until it's done. They're not in the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
I think we sit there and we see how it
plays out.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Well, that's why people are pissed off, Boonie.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, They'll see they see hang on, hang on, they
see they see a once in a lifetime potential rotation
with these guys, and the fans like us are scared
to death that these guys are gonna waste it. All right,
So that's why people are angry, all right, Boonie, great stuff.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
Without a doubt, without a doubt, and they have every
right to be since since I was there in the
early two thousands, you've gone to the playoffs once. This
this town deserves to be pissed off, and right now
they have every right too. And the players completely understanding
it's up to them to flip this narrative and get
on the road and start a fresh week.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
All right, great stuff, enjoy the week. We'll talk next Thursday. Man,
appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (18:45):
Pal, you got it, guys, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
All right, Brett Boone, Courtesyavenu, Kings dot Com. Uh, we
got time for some phone calls, for some reaction on
this whole thing. I mean, what else you want to
talk about? You want to talk to see our training camp?
You want to talk Husky training camp. I mean, this
is this is what people are buzzing about right now.
I mean, by the way, guys, I thought, the calls
in the first hour are freaking austin tremendous, tremendous, tremendous
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by you, guys, bringing you brought the heat in the
first hour of the radio show. Like I just said
on Twitter, Man, it's like fifty years of frustration. You know, people,
I think know how important this time is in Mariner
history to take advantage of this rotation. And I think
a lot of people like us are petrified that they're
gonna waste it. That's why they're angry. So jump on
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the horn. You tell us, You tell us what you
think they should do. You tell us whether you think
they would do. I set it back at three o'clock today.
If you missed it that, if I'm Jerry Depoto, I
got to ask myself if I trust Scott's service to
get this team into the playoffs, because if I don't,
he's gotta go, and he's got to go tonight. Your
phone calls two eight six, ninety five, ninety five, Next
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Speaker 3 (20:03):
Hey Jackson, Yes, did you see who the Mets had
throw out their first pitch today?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
No, you're kidding, I swear to god, dude. Can you
imagine if the Mariners did that? Not that they ever would.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Not in they billion years if they did? Right now,
how much heat they would take for that mess, Like.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
What are we doing over here?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
The hawk to girl? Really that's the best we could do.
Oh my god, that is hilarious. I mean, why would
they do that? I have no idea the people that
have no idea who she is?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I mean, would you say off the air, why is
she famous?
Speaker 8 (20:39):
Again? Dick?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Repeat that.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I'll let people look it up them explain that to
your kid in the Mets stadium.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yes, you see, son, the reason why that girl's over here? Dad,
I get it, I get it. Please just stop for God's.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Stephen SEUs is going to join us for an emergency
visit tomorrow, by the way, at about three twenty eight,
So we'll be at the rain Ears tomorrow. But just
grab some phone calls. Mariners lose today in Detroit. They
manage one hit, one god darn hit against the Tigers.
They say that on the radio Days wept by Detroit,
Mike and span away, Mike, He're on the air.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Go ahead, man, how are you hey?
Speaker 9 (21:17):
Zabidy Always love chat with you guys. It's been too
loss as I chatted with you guys. But you know,
first hollos off that you represent everything. Mariners fans are
going through because you're holding in every bit of anger.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
You have to keep it g rated.
Speaker 10 (21:32):
But in this case, you know, all of us have
to just shake our heads and just ask ourselves, what.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
In God's name is Scott's service doing.
Speaker 10 (21:42):
Pulling two pitchers who shut out the Tigers for fourteen innings,
you pull them, and like Brett Boone said, you know
these pictures are whimps. They can't throw one hundred to
one hundred and ten pitches, and our pitchers don't throw
high heat like some of it, like Poltanstead. But I am
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just baffle. It's going on almost we have never made
the World Series. Scott's service get the heck out of
this ballpark. Or better yet, I got a better idea.
How about Jerry Depoto and Justin Hollander sacrifice Scott's service
to the God of Mount Rainier. Maybe that'll actually help us.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Wow, I mean, I understand the frustration.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
I don't know if I can put it all on
the pitchers being whimps.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I mean I think it want to.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
It's the whimpification of Major League Baseball coming from the top. Now, yes,
we have had pitchers in the past that have been whimps,
Eric Badard and others that just wanted to be pulled
out of baseball games.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
But I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
If I don't see Logan Gilbert wanting to be pulled
out of baseball games, I see him in the face
of managers sometimes. I don't think Bryce Miller wants to
be pulled out of baseball game.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
So I don't think the pitchers are whimps at all.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Is Mike still there?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
He hung on, He's gone okay, because I was gonna
have asked Scott directly, because he's just sat down with us.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
What the hell he's thinking?
Speaker 11 (23:06):
Are you serious with that question?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Vin Vince, you're on the air.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
Go ahead, dude, Yeah, thanks for taking my call. Guys,
I don't mean to, you know, I don't want to
rehash a lot of the stuff that you guys are
already covering. But I'm gonna make two points. One is
that service is awful. His managerial style is definitely lacking
bunth of baseball. He probably doesn't want to call a
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hit and run because the guy will run and nobody
will make contact at the batter's box. But you know,
situational hitting, they're terrible. Wait for your pitch if you
get two strikes spread out in the box, put the
stink and ball in play. And the second point that
I want to make is nothing's going to change until
we start hitting Stanton in the pocketbook and people stop
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going to games like I have. Don't give them your money.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yeah, I get that attitude, and I get that fans
are limited and how much they can fight back.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I really do, right.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I mean, if you're a fan and you feel like
you want to make a statement, you want to, you know,
flex your muscle.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
What else do you do besides not fork over your money.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
There's literally nothing else you can do as a fans
right to fight back. The problem is when you start
doing stuff like that, teams move right and nobody wants.
I'd rather have a terrible baseball team. I'd rather be
pissed off three hundred and sixty five days a year
than not have a team at all. So it's a conundrum.
It's an absolute conundrum with these guys. I mean, I
just look, I mean, like I said, you know, maybe
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it's me, maybe I'm on you know, softy island with
this thing, But I would just hope that the same
passion that fans have would be reflected in the ownership group,
and I just don't see that, man, But I don't
see it.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
I think a lot of Mariner fans go to games,
and I'm not disparaging this at all.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
It just simply because it's a fun place.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
To totally agree with you, and it's a beautiful you know,
most of these days between June and now are absolutely
gorgeous and it's a really cool place to watch game.
I think the Mariners are really feeding off of that.
And I think, regardless of the record, the Mariners are
still gonna get those fans that want to just go
out to the ballpark and watch the game.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Will Howard Lincoln used to think that Safego Field was
enough that they would come no matter what because it
was a beautiful park. And maybe he's right, Maybe he's
right about that. I mean, look, you know, you want
certain things a certain way. You don't get him, you
get frustrated. But they just they just continue to fumble
the PR bag right and left every single year, all
these different moments, all these different things they've said, from
the big ugly house deal with the basketball to the
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PR staff way back of the day saying you can't
sell Yankee suck t shirts because the neighborhood goes to hell.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I'm like, what are we doing here?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
We can't sell Yankee suck teachers, but the Mets have
the hawk ta girl.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Throwing at That's right, all right, let's get one more
before the break ericson Woodenville. Eric, you're on the air,
Go ahead, man, have at it.
Speaker 11 (25:49):
Heyey, Yeah, I'm gonna kind of double up on what
that previous guy just said with this marinon roster, the
way it is, the hitting, how terrible it is, and
the ching how great it is. They they need to
do more situational hitting that It's just ridiculous how these
guys are free swinging up there with two.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Not gonna happen, Eric's not gonna happen. I mean, Eric,
not to be a smart ass, but let me ask
you a question. Scott's Service has been the manager now
for eight and a half years, is that correct? Eight
and a half years, and you're telling you what they
need to do and they haven't done it in eight
and a half years. Why would it change in the
final two months.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
I don't remember it ever being this bad, though, Dave,
I really don't. Six seventy eight years ago. I don't
remember it being.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
This because he didn't care seven years ago because the
team's stunk. Now you care, now you're watching now it matters.
We didn't have the pitch that's that's.
Speaker 11 (26:37):
Exact staff we did eight years seven years ago.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
We do know. But yeah, no, no, look, Eric, I
agree with you. I totally agree with you, and Dick
I think you're both right.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I'm just saying, why should we expect it to change
when for eight and a half years that hasn't been
their approach at all.
Speaker 11 (26:54):
Well, because we have the pitching staff now that we
didn't back then, and it should change based on what
we've got.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
They've had the pitching staff for three years.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
No, Dave, I mean I'm looking at you just I
just randomly went to twenty eighteen. I mean twenty eighteen
we were fifteenth and sacked buns and fourteenth and sackflies.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
It hasn't we were right in the middle of the back.
We are dead freaking last by a landslide.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Get that. But they've been doing that. They've had this
pitching staff for.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Three years with this rotation, and they haven't played that
kind of baseball. It's not gonna change, you guys are
barking up at a tree. You're pissing in the wind.
It ain't gonna happen. It's not what they want to do,
and they'll never do it, and it may get him
both fired. By the way, when it's all said and done,
I think you're right. I think there's run, there's meat
on the bone. They are leaving Eric and I appreciate
the call man runs on the table because they refuse
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to play a different brand of baseball.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I totally agree with you, guys.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
We're gonna break textimonials up next four nine, four to
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us from ourselves. He's in Nashville where the Seahawks coming
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He is our shrink. He is our therapist.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh he's gone. Okay, Well you know what everyone.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
They didn't want to talk about the Mariners.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I mean with you, hey, dude, have.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
We reached that point where it's Loop Penello stories now
with Brett Boone?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
No, I don't think we have either.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
That happens when they are seriously out of playoff contention,
which they are.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oh God, if they get to a point where it's
we had Boonie on. Was it last year or was
it three years ago twenty twenty one where the team
was so bad that there was nothing left to talk
about but have Brett.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Was at the beginning of the year before they made
the run.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
We had Booty tell Lou Panella stories on the air.
Now there's their low watermark. Don't you know that?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
They have not been three games out all season long
until today?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Thank you, Dick.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
That makes me feel much better. Brett Boone with us, Boney,
do we have you?
Speaker 6 (01:24):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (01:24):
What would you like to know about Lou this week?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Okay? How about this? How about this?
Speaker 8 (01:29):
Let's talk about the Brett Boone podcast?
Speaker 7 (01:31):
Shall we?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
There you go?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
What would Lou's reaction be to everything that happened in
Detroit with this offense?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
How would Lou have handled.
Speaker 8 (01:39):
I'll tell you what he It would be entertaining from
a player's perspective. Now we'd be getting out of there
quick and let Lou do his thing. But yeah, wouldn't
it would and it would not be pretty.
Speaker 7 (01:54):
This wasn't pretty.
Speaker 8 (01:56):
I'll tell you what I had. I was watching the
game and when it started off, they walked for.
Speaker 7 (02:05):
In the first thing, they said, all right, well, they're
gonna get up.
Speaker 8 (02:07):
You never want to lose two out of three Detroit,
but they're gonna take this. One's throwing, he's shoving. And
then my Aida comes into the game. And my Aid
has had his struggles this year. He's got a six
plus Ernie, but he's pitching like old Maaida, And I said, man,
the way the Mariners are swinging right now, he might
be tough. And he pitched five inn he's pretty darn
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good and kept him in the game. And then the
Baiez homer. You know, he's got five homers this year
off Moonhos and I can't and I can't put it
on Moon.
Speaker 7 (02:37):
He's been great.
Speaker 8 (02:37):
He's been great, and that's going to happen on a cagion.
But just you can't keep putting yourself you know, you're
in position to win every night. It seems like I
look up in the fifth any of them, there's one rod,
there's zero runs, and it keeps going, and it's it's
tough at this stage of the season. You got forty
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games to go. The thing I don't like about it,
why it's trending right now, is the way Houston had
a day off today it's more eighth straight.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
They're watching this.
Speaker 8 (03:05):
They're watching this, and they got Berlander coming back at
the right time. Tucker's getting closer to coming back. Alvarez
is starting to be the MVP that he's been the
last year's That bullpen's coming on strong. At the beginning
of the year, remember all that problem they had with
Hater and Presley, they were thirteen in the American League.
Speaker 7 (03:23):
Their bullpen, by.
Speaker 8 (03:24):
The way, now is number two. And it seems like
they're hitting their stride at the right time. And they're
watching the Mariners right now and they know that they're
just having trouble scoring. Rolex Julio comes out of the
you know, doesn't play today after last night, kind of
tweaking it on that running down the first base.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
Things aren't going very good right now, boys, And.
Speaker 8 (03:47):
All I can say is, if you're in that clubhouse
at this time, you're going to go up and down.
You won two out of three from the Phillies. The
city's on fire, you sweep the Mets. Everybody's excited than this.
Now we're on the other side of the Ledger, and
I'm all for fans voicing their opinions, and they're pissed off,
and they should be. And that's as players, we've got
to be able to take that. But you got forty
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games to go. We were up ten games. Five weeks later,
we're in second place. Now we're three games out. So
it can change in a heartbeat either way. It's just this,
this offense gotta find a way, gotta find a way,
and it's useless to talk about managers or front office
or whatever. It is what it is right now. At
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the break, everybody was kind of you know, the consensus was, Hey,
that did a pretty good job for what was available
on the market. They kind of hit their needs, got
the players they needed. Now that there's no production, especially
going to Detroit, you can't lose three right now in Detroit.
Everybody's in en up for it. And that's the way
it is at this stage. You've got to just kind
of settle down and let's see how this week plays out.
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Go rattle off five or six out of seven. You
change the complete narrative. But right now, these guys are
feeling it right now. This this is a big one
to lose today. The way they lost after losing two
to Detroit in a pennant race, when Houston, just sitting
there with a day off watching, Uh, this is going.
This is some soul search, and these guys got to
come back and get it going against Gat and it
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doesn't get easy. You got schemes your next game and
then the Dodgors Brett.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
I know that Scott is managing on the blade of
a knife every night because his offense doesn't get him
any wiggle room. But it does seem like there's a
lot of decisions that are being you know, not hindsight
being twenty twenty, it's more like foresight, like what the
hell's he doing here? So the last couple of days,
talk about the.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Decisions he's made, Pulling.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Wu after eighty five pitches, Pulling Miller after ninety pitches
after they're dominating, pulling Munios yesterday after having a great
ninth inning, and not pitch him in the tent, not
bunting it yesterday when they haven't been able to score
a run, and god, you know in two days in
the extra inning. So talk about some of those decisions,
and did you have foresight in any of those, saying,
as Scott, I don't know what you're doing here.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
Well, here's the thing, and Unfortunately, in today's game, it's
different than it was. You know, you mentioned Lou at
the top. Well, Lou, Lou's do one what Lou wants
to do, and he's never taken a guy out of
the game with eighty five pitches. You know my feelings
on that. I think, what the place we're at in
Major League Baseball and babying these pictures and oh, you've
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got ninety pitches, great job. It's nonsense, especially when you're
these big horse type pitchers. I mean, these guys are machines,
and to hold them when that is your strength, it's
like go nine inning's one time. That being said, managing
today's game, it's a different world, and I can't be
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as critical because I don't know that Scotty's making those decisions.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
Maybe he is, maybe he isn't.
Speaker 8 (06:48):
If he is, I disagree with it. Yeah, but he
might not be making those decisions. He might have orders
from the top that here's here's our game plan before
the day. You know, back in the day, we'd have
our hitters meeting, we have our pictures meeting with our skipper,
with our bench coach, with our pitching coach, hitting coach.
That's who makes all the decisions. Nothing comes from an
analytical team who this is the game plan before we're
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going to take this guy at eighty five pitches, he's out.
It doesn't matter where we're at the game, this is
what we do. So so it's tough for me to
to you know, because I know how the culture is
now and it might not be him making that decision.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I don't know if Jerry's making those calls literally in
the moment, but I think that there's a philosophy and
a map that they follow for all that.
Speaker 8 (07:36):
I think there's a game plan, there's a script. I
don't think. I don't think. I don't think Jerry depots
up in his up in his booth making a phone
call to service in the dugout the eighty four pitch mark. No,
I think I think it's predetermined before the game where
we're headed. Well, let me ask you a year ago,
we were talking about this with Kirby when he had
that post. You know that that interview after the game
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where he took it back. Can Hey, I didn't mean
to say that. Obviously it was a script, and hey,
I don't go past x amount.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Of what are you talking about?
Speaker 8 (08:08):
I've never I've never played with a pitcher that knew
how many pitches you're.
Speaker 7 (08:11):
Going to throw?
Speaker 8 (08:11):
That gay right, you're gonna keep going.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
You're hiring along with Brian and and and analytics.
Speaker 8 (08:20):
You get all the analytics. You've got the wear and
tear on the arm. Where is a certain picture at
in season? How many reps has he had? And everybody's different.
Before the game, there's a sheet and it's kind of
here's where we're going. And that's my understanding. I'm not
in the dugout. I'm not in those pregame uh meetings,
so I don't have access to that. Nobody does except
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for the internal people. But from what I'm hearing around
the game, that's kind of how it goes.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
And before the game starts, there's already a script.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
It's these aren't decisions aren't just made on the plot,
they're already predetermined.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Well, let me ask you this, Booney, Brett Boone's with
us courtesy of Venue Kings. You mentioned manager, you know, whatever,
useless to talk about.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I just agree. I think Jerry Depoto has a once in.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
A career rotation for him as a general manager, and
he better damn well believed that Scott Servis is the
guy to get him to the playoffs, to take advantage
of that come postseason time. If he doesn't, he should
fire him tonight. So I guess I would just ask
you what has Scott's Service shown you that leads you
to believe that they won't be better off without him,
or if they fire him, that he brings something to
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the table that nobody else can bring.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
Right now, you can't, well just say nobody else.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
There's a lot of people that can bring that are
very capable, but it's Scott Service's ship right now and
I'm not in there.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Should it be? Should it be? Should it be? Moving forward? Phil?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
That's fired Joe Girardi after two months, hired Bobby Thompson
and went to the World Series.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
Well, absolutely, definitely.
Speaker 8 (09:47):
A shakeup during a season sometimes really works, sometimes it doesn't,
And then you're sitting there going, well, was.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
It worth the shake up?
Speaker 8 (09:54):
Now? If you're taught if we get to the playoffs
and we are not in the playoffs, well those are
going to be some value it. As of now, the
Poto's given the players that we thought were necessary to
make a playoff push, and we won't even talk about
the pitching because we always talk about it. Everybody knows
about the pitching. Number one, number one, number one, we
get it. But he's got the front office has gotten
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the players that we think we need now for right now,
it's on the players. It's always on the players. At
the end of I've been on I've been on some
bad teams where we were pretty talented. You know, I
played under a horrible team in two thousand and Bruce
Bochie was my skipper. I know what everybody thinks of
Bruce Bochie. It was Bochie the reason we've finished the
fourth place now because we couldn't get anybody out.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
We didn't have any pitching. Well, this is the this
is the reverse.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
Got all the pitching in the world and all the offense. Yeah,
I think it's a weird Uh, it's a weird data
point that you're leading not just the American League, all of
baseball and pitching and you're not in the playoff picture
as of the day. That's weird. It's almost impossible, but
that's where we're at right now. I think if you
gets to the playoffs now, there's going to be reevaluating
starting the top on what's going to go on with
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this franchise going forward. But in the meantime for the
next forty games, it's the players in that room, and
they win and lose games, and to sit.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
Here and put it on service.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
No, now you get to the end, Hey, I got
you the players, It doesn't matter what happened. The bottom
line is your name's at the top of that lineup card,
and that's the guy that always goes down. Can't get
rid of all the players. But the illness of this
is on the players to get it done, especially on
the offensive side, and they're not getting it done right now.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Well, they're also on pace to be the only team
in the Wild Card ERA to have a double digit
division lead and not make the playoffs if they don't
end up doing that too, So they got that to
hang their head on. Hey, Booney, was Julio mishandled the
last few weeks?
Speaker 8 (11:43):
I don't think so. You know, I've had some ankle's
brains in my life. I'd never missed three weeks of
my life. I understand they're tough, and when you get
a high one, they are nasty.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
I'm not saying he was milking and everything, No, not
at all.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
But I think if anything. In today's era, over h
we're overly cautious. You know, back in the day, you're
chomping at the bit. You're I got Rick Griffin down
to the training room. I'm going to Rick and say, listen,
my ankle's fine, taped and crap out of it and
let's go.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
And I'll probably be in a week.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
Rick's gonna look at me.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
Well, you think that's guy.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
I don't care. If it's a good idea, let's go.
And that's the way we handle things. It's not that
way anymore. They're overly cautious today. I don't think they
rushed him back. You know, I've had high ankles brade
two three weeks is not rushing you back from that.
So I think they're overly cautious.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
If anything.
Speaker 8 (12:35):
So the way that was handled now, it just happened
to I don't know what he did running down the line.
He smelled the base hit, you know, he came back,
he had he had the rough five at bats. Next day,
he smells a hit man, he's gonna get a hit,
which we all do. You go into overdrive and your
subconscious takes over. You'll do anything to get to that
bag for that knock and he tweaked an ankle. That's
a little bit tender. So I, from all indications, you
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wanted to play today. And once again, I don't think
it's just a managerial decision. I read the quote, Julio
wanted to play. I figured at keep him out today. Okay,
well maybe that wasn't Scott's choice. Now Scott's gonna wear
own it because he's the skipper and he puts the
pen in the lineup. Yeah, but that might have been
an internal decision as well as under no conditions does
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Julio play today. That's coming from the top, and these
are all hypotheticals. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
I don't have facts on this, but that's just what
I'm thinking.
Speaker 8 (13:26):
And then we go out and we have a press
conference that we say what we're supposed to say. That's
that's kind of the of the new Major League Baseball
in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I know there's a lot of things I would get
on Scott for the Julio situation. Is not one of them,
because that's way over his head. I totally agree on that.
I think it was hammil poorly. He's not healthy, booty,
and he's playing dh and he's not all the way back.
If he were all the way back, he'd be playing
in the outfield, and he's not. I think they rushed
him back too early and he's banged up again. Who
knows how long he'll be out for well, Stevid, but
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Susan pointed this out two days ago.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
There wasn't even a rehabit side for the guy, right.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
But also, don't you think too there's a little bit
of man, it's pretty important right now to get him back.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
And I don't want to say.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Okay, so let me ask you a question. Let me
just cut you off for a second.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
If it's important to get him back, because these games
are valuable and they're and they're really important to win, now,
why are we pulling pictures in eighty five pitches? I
mean it's like, where we are you doing this? So
you're not if you're gonna, if you're gonna bring Julio
back because the games are super important, then why are
you yanking your starters after eighty five?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
It's like you're halfway in, halfway out. What are we
doing here?
Speaker 7 (14:34):
Right?
Speaker 8 (14:35):
It's it's it's two points that are going directly against
one another. We're gonna totally be cautious. We're gonna be
cautious here, and we're gonna be really aggressive here. For me,
right now, I'm really aggressive. I'm Julio Rodriguez. I'm going, hey,
is eighty me better than the alternative? The answer is yes.
I'm on the field. That's the way we do it.
(14:57):
That's the way players played when I play, that's how
we I look at that lineup. I'm not in the lineup.
I'm going crazy. I have to be in that lineup
because I know we're better when I'm in it.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Brett.
Speaker 8 (15:08):
That's how guys are wired. But it's a different game today.
It's a different game. It's not handled. I watched I
watched the guy get hit by a pitch the other
day and walked into the dugout like he just took
himself out of the game. I've never seen that in
my life.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
It's like, you get hit.
Speaker 8 (15:23):
Your elbow blows up. You be the tough guy. You
go to first base, you tell you wave off everybody
that's coming out to you. You know, actually you're kind
of embarrassing your trainer. You go around and then you
go out and you grab your glove and you start
running out for defense, and you got two or three
trainers trying to tackle. You say, and we got to
get some ice in that thing. That's where I watched
the player the other day. Did by the pitcher he
(15:44):
walked into the dugout. Oh yes, he's done. That's the
way it is, and it's not their fault. That's the
way the game is, ay, And that's where how players
are brought up through.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
The minor league system.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
If you're not one hundred percent, you do not play.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
That's the way it is that I like it.
Speaker 8 (16:04):
Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
You walked up to the plate every time, whether you
were ten for your last twenty or oh for your
last twenty, like the biggest badass in the bar, like you.
Speaker 8 (16:12):
Knew you were gonna make it.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah I could, right, But you walked up there with confidence.
Every time. These guys walk the poat. I watched their body.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Language every single game, and it shows me no confidence
that they're gonna get a base hit every time.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Are you noticing that too?
Speaker 7 (16:28):
I don't know if it's that.
Speaker 8 (16:29):
I don't know if it's that, because yeah, I walked
to the plate sometimes and it's just a thing.
Speaker 7 (16:34):
I can look at that picture and he knows he's
in trouble.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
I've also been really struggling not seeing the ball and
I walk up and I premeditate this.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
I'll sit on deck and the music starts playing.
Speaker 8 (16:44):
I'm going, all right, I got I gotta really get
this picture to know that, hey, don't mess with meat it.
I stand in the boss, I lock that. I lock
eyes with that picture and he looks at me and
kind of paints a two steamer away and kind of
gives me to look like body. I know you ain't
feeling it that that act ave works. So I've tried
both sides. I don't know if you can necessarily read
the body language. It's just got to be. It's a culture.
(17:05):
I've said this from the beginning. It's creating a culture
in that clubhouse, a winning culture that you come to
the ballpark rain or shine, and we go out and
kick somebody's butt.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
And that's what's gotta be.
Speaker 8 (17:16):
And I don't necessarily think and you know, I don't
see that. I love these guys. I pull form as
hard as anybody. And it's really tough right now because
you get disappointed. And I'm a fan too, you know,
I try to not get emotional one way or the other.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
But I see losing.
Speaker 8 (17:30):
Three games in Detroit, where man, we're sitting there, and
then you go back and you think a month and
a half ago we had a ten game lad, how
could you blow that? And then oh, that doesn't matter.
What's done is done. Now it's going forward. What do
we do? And I watched Houston over there and and
they just went eight straight and we just get swept
by Detroit. So I get emotional as a fan. I
gotta reel myself in and go, wait a minute, Okay,
(17:50):
let's see how this.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
Next week goes.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
Because next week they could win six out of seven.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
We could be sitting here having a completely different conversation.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
Until it's done. They're not in the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
I think we sit there and we see how it
plays out.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Well, that's why people are pissed off, Boonie.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, They'll see they see hang on, hang on, they
see they see a once in a lifetime potential rotation
with these guys, and the fans like us are scared
to death that these guys are gonna waste it. All right,
So that's why people are angry, all right, Boonie, great stuff.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
Without a doubt, without a doubt, and they have every
right to be since since I was there in the
early two thousands, you've gone to the playoffs once. This
this town deserves to be pissed off, and right now
they have every right too. And the players completely understanding
it's up to them to flip this narrative and get
on the road and start a fresh week.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
All right, great stuff, enjoy the week. We'll talk next Thursday. Man,
appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (18:45):
Pal, you got it, guys, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
All right, Brett Boone, Courtesyavenu, Kings dot Com. Uh, we
got time for some phone calls, for some reaction on
this whole thing. I mean, what else you want to
talk about? You want to talk to see our training camp?
You want to talk Husky training camp. I mean, this
is this is what people are buzzing about right now.
I mean, by the way, guys, I thought, the calls
in the first hour are freaking austin tremendous, tremendous, tremendous
(19:07):
by you, guys, bringing you brought the heat in the
first hour of the radio show. Like I just said
on Twitter, Man, it's like fifty years of frustration. You know, people,
I think know how important this time is in Mariner
history to take advantage of this rotation. And I think
a lot of people like us are petrified that they're
gonna waste it. That's why they're angry. So jump on
(19:28):
the horn. You tell us, You tell us what you
think they should do. You tell us whether you think
they would do. I set it back at three o'clock today.
If you missed it that, if I'm Jerry Depoto, I
got to ask myself if I trust Scott's service to
get this team into the playoffs, because if I don't,
he's gotta go, and he's got to go tonight. Your
phone calls two eight six, ninety five, ninety five, Next
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Speaker 1 (19:49):
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Speaker 3 (20:03):
Hey Jackson, Yes, did you see who the Mets had
throw out their first pitch today?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
No, you're kidding, I swear to god, dude. Can you
imagine if the Mariners did that? Not that they ever would.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Not in they billion years if they did? Right now,
how much heat they would take for that mess, Like.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
What are we doing over here?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
The hawk to girl? Really that's the best we could do.
Oh my god, that is hilarious. I mean, why would
they do that? I have no idea the people that
have no idea who she is?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I mean, would you say off the air, why is
she famous?
Speaker 8 (20:39):
Again? Dick?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Repeat that.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I'll let people look it up them explain that to
your kid in the Mets stadium.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yes, you see, son, the reason why that girl's over here? Dad,
I get it, I get it. Please just stop for God's.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Stephen SEUs is going to join us for an emergency
visit tomorrow, by the way, at about three twenty eight,
So we'll be at the rain Ears tomorrow. But just
grab some phone calls. Mariners lose today in Detroit. They
manage one hit, one god darn hit against the Tigers.
They say that on the radio Days wept by Detroit,
Mike and span away, Mike, He're on the air.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Go ahead, man, how are you hey?
Speaker 9 (21:17):
Zabidy Always love chat with you guys. It's been too
loss as I chatted with you guys. But you know,
first hollos off that you represent everything. Mariners fans are
going through because you're holding in every bit of anger.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
You have to keep it g rated.
Speaker 10 (21:32):
But in this case, you know, all of us have
to just shake our heads and just ask ourselves, what.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
In God's name is Scott's service doing.
Speaker 10 (21:42):
Pulling two pitchers who shut out the Tigers for fourteen innings,
you pull them, and like Brett Boone said, you know
these pictures are whimps. They can't throw one hundred to
one hundred and ten pitches, and our pitchers don't throw
high heat like some of it, like Poltanstead. But I am
(22:04):
just baffle. It's going on almost we have never made
the World Series. Scott's service get the heck out of
this ballpark. Or better yet, I got a better idea.
How about Jerry Depoto and Justin Hollander sacrifice Scott's service
to the God of Mount Rainier. Maybe that'll actually help us.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Wow, I mean, I understand the frustration.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
I don't know if I can put it all on
the pitchers being whimps.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I mean I think it want to.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
It's the whimpification of Major League Baseball coming from the top. Now, yes,
we have had pitchers in the past that have been whimps,
Eric Badard and others that just wanted to be pulled
out of baseball games.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
But I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
If I don't see Logan Gilbert wanting to be pulled
out of baseball games, I see him in the face
of managers sometimes. I don't think Bryce Miller wants to
be pulled out of baseball game.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
So I don't think the pitchers are whimps at all.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Is Mike still there?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
He hung on, He's gone okay, because I was gonna
have asked Scott directly, because he's just sat down with us.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
What the hell he's thinking?
Speaker 11 (23:06):
Are you serious with that question?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Vin Vince, you're on the air.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
Go ahead, dude, Yeah, thanks for taking my call. Guys,
I don't mean to, you know, I don't want to
rehash a lot of the stuff that you guys are
already covering. But I'm gonna make two points. One is
that service is awful. His managerial style is definitely lacking
bunth of baseball. He probably doesn't want to call a
(23:32):
hit and run because the guy will run and nobody
will make contact at the batter's box. But you know,
situational hitting, they're terrible. Wait for your pitch if you
get two strikes spread out in the box, put the
stink and ball in play. And the second point that
I want to make is nothing's going to change until
we start hitting Stanton in the pocketbook and people stop
(23:54):
going to games like I have. Don't give them your money.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yeah, I get that attitude, and I get that fans
are limited and how much they can fight back.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I really do, right.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I mean, if you're a fan and you feel like
you want to make a statement, you want to, you know,
flex your muscle.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
What else do you do besides not fork over your money.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
There's literally nothing else you can do as a fans
right to fight back. The problem is when you start
doing stuff like that, teams move right and nobody wants.
I'd rather have a terrible baseball team. I'd rather be
pissed off three hundred and sixty five days a year
than not have a team at all. So it's a conundrum.
It's an absolute conundrum with these guys. I mean, I
just look, I mean, like I said, you know, maybe
(24:35):
it's me, maybe I'm on you know, softy island with
this thing, But I would just hope that the same
passion that fans have would be reflected in the ownership group,
and I just don't see that, man, But I don't
see it.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
I think a lot of Mariner fans go to games,
and I'm not disparaging this at all.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
It just simply because it's a fun place.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
To totally agree with you, and it's a beautiful you know,
most of these days between June and now are absolutely
gorgeous and it's a really cool place to watch game.
I think the Mariners are really feeding off of that.
And I think, regardless of the record, the Mariners are
still gonna get those fans that want to just go
out to the ballpark and watch the game.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Will Howard Lincoln used to think that Safego Field was
enough that they would come no matter what because it
was a beautiful park. And maybe he's right, Maybe he's
right about that. I mean, look, you know, you want
certain things a certain way. You don't get him, you
get frustrated. But they just they just continue to fumble
the PR bag right and left every single year, all
these different moments, all these different things they've said, from
the big ugly house deal with the basketball to the
(25:33):
PR staff way back of the day saying you can't
sell Yankee suck t shirts because the neighborhood goes to hell.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I'm like, what are we doing here?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
We can't sell Yankee suck teachers, but the Mets have
the hawk ta girl.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Throwing at That's right, all right, let's get one more
before the break ericson Woodenville. Eric, you're on the air,
Go ahead, man, have at it.
Speaker 11 (25:49):
Heyey, Yeah, I'm gonna kind of double up on what
that previous guy just said with this marinon roster, the
way it is, the hitting, how terrible it is, and
the ching how great it is. They they need to
do more situational hitting that It's just ridiculous how these
guys are free swinging up there with two.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Not gonna happen, Eric's not gonna happen. I mean, Eric,
not to be a smart ass, but let me ask
you a question. Scott's Service has been the manager now
for eight and a half years, is that correct? Eight
and a half years, and you're telling you what they
need to do and they haven't done it in eight
and a half years. Why would it change in the
final two months.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
I don't remember it ever being this bad, though, Dave,
I really don't. Six seventy eight years ago. I don't
remember it being.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
This because he didn't care seven years ago because the
team's stunk. Now you care, now you're watching now it matters.
We didn't have the pitch that's that's.
Speaker 11 (26:37):
Exact staff we did eight years seven years ago.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
We do know. But yeah, no, no, look, Eric, I
agree with you. I totally agree with you, and Dick
I think you're both right.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I'm just saying, why should we expect it to change
when for eight and a half years that hasn't been
their approach at all.
Speaker 11 (26:54):
Well, because we have the pitching staff now that we
didn't back then, and it should change based on what
we've got.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
They've had the pitching staff for three years.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
No, Dave, I mean I'm looking at you just I
just randomly went to twenty eighteen. I mean twenty eighteen
we were fifteenth and sacked buns and fourteenth and sackflies.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
It hasn't we were right in the middle of the back.
We are dead freaking last by a landslide.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Get that. But they've been doing that. They've had this
pitching staff for.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Three years with this rotation, and they haven't played that
kind of baseball. It's not gonna change, you guys are
barking up at a tree. You're pissing in the wind.
It ain't gonna happen. It's not what they want to do,
and they'll never do it, and it may get him
both fired. By the way, when it's all said and done,
I think you're right. I think there's run, there's meat
on the bone. They are leaving Eric and I appreciate
the call man runs on the table because they refuse
(27:40):
to play a different brand of baseball.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I totally agree with you, guys.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
We're gonna break textimonials up next four nine, four to
five to one, and then Greg Gagagabell is gonna save
us from ourselves. He's in Nashville where the Seahawks coming
up on ninety three three KJRFM.
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