August 5, 2024 • 37 mins
In the first hour, Dick Fain and Hugh Millen talk about the ongoing Olympics and one bad broadcasting call of the 100 meter race yesterday, discuss the Mariners coming off a series win over Philadelphia and moving forward, plus listen to some Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hubert love Millin, Hey, man, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (00:02):
What's up, Dick? How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:03):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 4 (00:03):
Great weekend, good weekend, kind of got to decompress a
little bit. Didn't have the typical massive amounts of kids'
sports going on on the weekend, so it was kind
of cool and actually got a lot of time to
watch the Olympics. I have been absolutely dialed in. We're
gonna talk a lot of mayor or baseball today. We'll
talk some Seahawks football, some NFL things. We've got some
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conversations with the Husky players as well that I recorded
that I want to play for you as well and
get your thoughts on them. But you know, the Olympics
for me, and I don't know. I guess I'm not
alone because the ratings have been massive.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
For this Olympics.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
But it seems to me like something's different about this
year's Olympics than in years past, because I feel like
if I were to chart my Olympic interest in my
what this is forty years now that I can really
remember the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
The first Olympics I can really.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Remember is nineteen eighty four, and you know, as a
ten year old Carl Lewis against.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
The Iron curtain. Like it. It didn't get any better
in LA. I mean that was.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Interest level was ten out of ten. I mean that
was just Usa, Usa, Usa, And.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I was just ingrained in you.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
You had to beat you know, the red flag, right,
you had to beat the hammer in the sickle.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I mean, that was that was what it was all about.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
And it stayed really high for me over eighty eight,
ninety two, maybe in the ninety six and and it
kind of started to diminish a little bit, and I
still would watch it. But then the Tokyo Games were
so bizarre because they were a year later with COVID
and there was no fans in the stands.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
But this to me, I mean, just yesterday we watch Bobby.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Fink go wire to wire in the fifteen hundred, the
only gold medal American.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Man wins in swimming.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
We see that women's medley relay winning the last event
of the swimming competition to beat Australia in the gold
medal race by one. We see Novak Djokovic, who has
won countless major tournaments throughout his career, arguably the greatest
tennis player of all time, more emotional than I have
ever seen anyone more than I've seen him ever get
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in any one of his major championships. Scottie Scheffler in Tears,
Masters Champion in Tiars as the Star Spangled Banner is
being played, Noah Lyles winning the one hundred by five
one thousands of a second. This all came in one day,
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and every day, Hughes, seems like we have had these
unbelievable moments leading up to what I think was probably
the best day of all so far in the Olympics,
which was yesterday, was absolutely unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Well, I think a lot to respond to there, Yeah,
I think that. You know, in nineteen eighty course, the
United States boycotted Moscow games right due to the invasion
of Afghanistan, and eighty four Russia responded in Lai kind
did not come out. So to me, those were somewhat
anti climactic for me, just having vivid memories of seventy
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two and seventy six, and seventy two was obviously, you know,
marked by the Soviet one point, very controversial one point
went over basketball US first loss ever. That was devastating,
you know, So seventy those two Olympiads in the height
of the Cold War, with all with the Soviet Union
and all of the warsaw Pack countries participating, that just
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felt like a tension beyond anything I've ever seen that,
you know, you never saw in any cultural sense, even
citizens from those countries behind the Iron Curtain, and the
only time they emerged like once every four years to
compete against the West and the rest of the world
obviously in the Olympics. So I think that the politics
or the nationalism in terms of a real bonafog Cold War,
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I'm not sure that you experienced.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
It, probably because I was probably a little bit too young,
right because of the boycotts.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, and you know eighty eight, well that was a
year before the Wall fell, so so I think that
the Cold War was definitely on the vast decline. So
you know, there's there's some of our listeners maybe remember
sixty eight and sixty four.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
You know, that was obviously in the Cold War as well.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
But I do think if you're talking about that aspect,
of course Russia's not here now because.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Of there were in Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
So but for me, the Olympics, that was my initial
imprint is just that overriding and just like almost indescribable
and palpable undertones, overtones of.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
The Cold War.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
As for the popularity, I don't have a great answer.
I'm left to wonder if all of the nil and
the transfer portal, the the remaking of our favorite sports
in college athletics, and the quote unquote moved to professionalism
of those sports, maybe there's a longing for you know,
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what we think is is amateurism.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
That's that's associated with most of the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I understand most of even the so called non revenue sports,
you know, their athletes, they're professional athletes on some level, right,
But the Olympics just has a you know, there's a
cache a brand once every four years. It's uh, it's
it's it's incredibly sexy. And I think that those guys,
the you know, the Schefflers and and the uh the yeah, yeah,
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I think I think, look, you see the NBA players,
I tip my hat to them.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
These guys, uh have you know, more money.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Than they could ever spend, and they can, and they
could be taking their summer off, but they are choosing
to go represent the United States. So I take note
of each and every one of them. So that just
speaks to hey, at some point we we we recognize
the the excellence that is an Olympic gold medal, and
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those guys are striving for it, even though they have
arguably more more cachet championships in their own sports.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
And I think we're seeing we're seeing an era, and
we probably have this frequently and we forget. I mean, obviously,
we had the Michael Phelps era where he, you know,
unquestionably I mean numerically became the greatest swimmer of all time,
passing Mark Spitz.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
But now we have it on the women's side with
La Decci. We have with some owne Biles.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I mean, we literally have a couple of female athletes
that I don't even think. I mean, I don't know
how many how anybody could argue, yes, we have Nadia
come in each is ten. Okay, we all remember that,
right if we're if we're old enough. But as far
as just the the the level of talent and the
level of athleticism in a particular sport, I mean, I
don't know how many how many anybody can even argue
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that some owne Biles isn't the greatest gymnast that has
ever walked the face of the earth. I mean, she
is just destroying people. Same thing with Katie Ladecki, I
think the greatest female swimmer of all time, and we're
seeing her still and now she's talking about coming back
in four years, and I think I think that leads
to ratings as well, because we all like superstars, and
I gotta tell you, in this era of you know,
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awful announcing and we like to rip everything that everybody's
doing in the broadcasting field, I think NBC is doing
a fantastic job. And maybe it's because it's being helped
by the fact that this is really the first streaming
Olympics where everybody kind of understands how to do the
streaming thing, right. I remember four years ago they tried
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to do the streaming thing. There were things on streaming,
but it was still like I mean, okay, how do
we find this?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
What is this? Where do I you know? What's this app?
W how do we work this?
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Now it's just kind of commonplace and so everybody now
can get whatever they want and if they want to
kind of ignore it, Like I've tried to kind of
ignore the headlines throughout the day, particularly on the weekend
when I'm not working. I don't want to know what happened,
because I want to sit with my family, and my
kids have been totally into it. I want to sit
with my family from seven thirty until ten o'clock at
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night and watch what happened that day in NBC. I
think has done an unbelievable job of pack you know,
packaging the greatest three hours of an entire day of
the Olympics into that prime time package.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
They put together.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Well, I agree, I think NB said does a great
job the one hundred meter called notwithstanding whoa boy?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
But we need to talk think about that.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I think that you know, a lot of times, you know,
legends you have, they have to move on before you
realize how great they are. For just one man's opinion,
for me, for the last several Olympiads, or you know,
over the last twenty you know, let's say, in this
in this millennium, to me, Michael Phelps has been the
most compelling athlete along and you Sain Bolt.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
You know, you say Bolt won three.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
You know, there was just a showmanship about him, his dominance,
you know, at his height, and of course he remains
the world record holder. So I think Usain Bolt really
had a draw. But then the you know, the was
it two thousand and eight when there was a question
of can he pass spits?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Ken Phelps pass spits?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Right, because there was a time up till high school
where I was a four sport guy. I was you know, football,
then basketball there on the spring, and then I was
a swimmer in the summer. So so you know, I'm
really drawing to swimming. And I thought the Phelps story,
and and I remember Mark Spitz because because I was
a swimmer and sit in nineteen seventy two, so I
was like, oh my god, Spitz was just you can't
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believe what a hero Mark Spitz was. And then in
seventy six, what a hero Bruce Jenner was. You know,
those are those guys were arguably the biggest names in
in those two Olympiads of the seventies.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Of course that's debatable, but as big.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
As they were just like like massive, Inner Glas, huge,
and so for I just remember Bruce Jenner.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
From the Whitis boxes. That's what I remember that.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, well, you know, I think the decathlon has lost
its cachet. I thought I remember feeling as a kid
that the decathlon winner was deemed to be the greatest
athlete in the world.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I don't hear people talk like that. I haven't heard
people talk like that for a long time.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Right, Maybe it's because it's a you know, mask, a
jack of all trades, master of none. When you talk
about who who goes to be an Olympic Kathla de Kathley.
But that was that was a really sexy gold medal.
The gold medal in the in the decathlon was really big.
And beginning back to Phelips, I think his quest to
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surpass Spitz is seven goals from seventy two. You know,
Spitz went into the water seven times, he came out
with seven goals and he If you wanted to make
an argument that Spitz was the greatest at that time,
you could say, hey, the one hundred meter free is
is quote unquote the world's fastest man. Just like the
one hundred meter sprint in Olympics, you are deemed the
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world's fastest man. If you wanted to build a case
against Phelps, you would say, on behalf of Spitz, you
would cite two things. And by the way, before I
say this, I would if I was a judge, I'd say, look,
Phelps wins.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
You know, pretty demonstrably.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
But if there was an argument for Spitz's seventy two
it was that number one, he won the hundred free,
so he was absolutely the world's fastest man in water.
And then also the margin of victories that he had.
He was more dominant in seventy two than Phelps was
in his now Phelps. So so for Phelps to say, hey,
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my Olympia Olympics is better than Mark Spitz is in
seventy two, he had, he had a lot, he had
to get the eight goals, and and he did, and
so to me, and then and then Dan Hicks to me,
I think you say, who are the greatest announcers Hicks
and games? You know, I'll say Keith Jackson in football?
You know, you know I think Kurt Gowdy gets under sold.
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I mean, you know, al Michaels is a classic play
by play guy.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
You look, you're play by play guy.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
You'd speak better this to this than me. But for
my ear, I cannot imagine a guy. You know, I
think of all those Phelps races, for Dan Hicks to
be on the mic, absolutely a perfection as an announcer.
He just draw you. There's a way that he drew you.
An n rowdy gains and you know, I thought that
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the broadcast was just a pinnacle while felt during Phelps'.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Career, and it was great again last night. And I'll
tell you one thing, Dan Hicks isn't gonna call a
race before it's over here, like we saw last night
in the one hundred.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Meters Oh oh, boil boy.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
I mean I'm watching, I am watching that and the
announcer calls it. I mean, I've got no idea who
I mean, I'm I have no idea who won. And
the announcer is making a definitive call that the Jamaican
has beaten Noahliles.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
And yet it.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Didn't jive with what he was saying, didn't jive with
the picture, because you're watching the picture of them finishing
the race, and both of them are looking up at
the clock like.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Who won, who won? Who won?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
And yet a definitive call is made that the Jamaican
beat Noahliles, And then we found out thirty seconds later
that he didn't.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You know, those there's a there's a rare brand of
airball that hits just before the rim, but it hits
the net and it makes the net responding away somewhat
like the ball that went in. That would be like
you the last second of the w NBA Championship.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
You make the call and you shit.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
It's good and it hit the bottom of the net.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
It was an airbill under the net, Like I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
You know what I would help this conversation is the
actual clutch?
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Please think I was gonna say, I was just gonna say,
it's so here.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
It is an Olympic medal winning for somebody wants in
the lamps. Now Thompson, stuff's turning up, Tomas coming with him.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
We thought it was gonna take nine seven to win.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Guess what you just lay nine point.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Eight diffy of of NBC. And yes, I mean I
will you know, I will credit NBC for a for
a great Olympics. And he's actually done a very good
job on the calls. I've heard a lot of his
calls thus far, and he was excited and I think
he just I think he wanted to make an epic call, Hugh.
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I think he wanted to make a memorable call. And
I think that he knew that if he was uncertain,
it wasn't going to be a memorable call. If it
was gonna be if it going to go down in history.
It was, it's not going to be a memorable call.
It's like, oh, we're gonna have to wait for the video. Right,
that's not going to be a memorable call.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And so oh not.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
His head, But that sounds plausible to me.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Sean McDonough, the announcers, one of my really good friends,
weird neighbors back when I was with the Patriots and
have maintained a friendship for a long time. He's the
lead play by play guy for the NHL and the
Stanley Cup on ESPN, right, and and not this year,
but last.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Year he had a call.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
There was a call where just some you know, how
hockey can be, how you know the puck can be,
like where'd the puck go? It actually scored, but it
got stuck in the top of the net. And I
talked to him like a two days later, and he
was still mortified, Like everybody in the industry is like, dude,
there's no way you could have seen that. But he
was just apoplectic that he had booted the call. And
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it wasn't an end of game call. I don't think
it was, but but but anyway, he missed it and
and he had to Cabrera call when he used to
do the World series.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
The Pirates Braves.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, and his voice cracked just a little, and you know,
twenty years later he's just still He goes, I hate
that call.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I hate that call, is Sean.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
That's an iconic call, in part because your voice did
crack and he.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Just no, no, no, no not. I hate it. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
So the announcers that I know, you know, you're one
of them, obviously, they are very hyper critical. And I
can't imagine if Sean had had called that in that manner,
he would be I mean, he'd be suicidal.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Oh brutal anyway, So enough enough of announcing.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Three twenty one, we got got more Olympics to talk about. Mariners, Seahawks.
Gino Smith is back. Huskies are nearly I would I
can almost say the Huskies are a top twenty five team,
that close to being a top twenty five team, as
the first poll has come out. A lot to get
to on the show until seven on ninety three point
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Speaker 1 (17:11):
No Mariners today.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
They begin a series tomorrow after taking two of three
against Philadelphia. And you I think I use the word
compelling more than once in the last segment to describe
how I felt the Olympics have been on a nightly basis.
I'm not what I'm about to say is not going
to be an indictment on the rest of the season
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and how I think the rest of the season is
necessarily going to play out.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
But see if you agree with me on this.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Mariner baseball this year, in particular, to me, has not
been compelling baseball for the simple reason that if you
get five six innings into a game. Now obviously Saturday
was a noticeable exception to this rule. But if you
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get five six innings into a game and you already
know who's going to win that game, that to me
is not all that compelling. And when the Mariners get
up four to one in a baseball game in the
fifth or six inning, you know, almost beyond a shadow
of a doubt, who's gonna win the game.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
And the Mariners get down four.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
To one in the fifth or sixth inning of a
baseball game, you almost know beyond a shadow of a doubt, who's.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Gonna win the baseball game.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
So I can just remember all these teams in the
past that there was just so many wild swings over
the course of games. Maybe it's because the bullpen was bad.
Maybe it's because they only had two or three good
starting pitchers and they had a couple of bad starting pitchers.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Maybe it's because the offense.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Was really really good and had the ability to pull
out of five to.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
One holes all the time.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
In in certain the refuse to lose years, the two
out so what years? And it's just I just him
having a hard time wrapping my arms around this particular
baseball team being very compelling. Now, having said that these additions,
when Julio comes back, when JP comes back, maybe the
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offense isn't bottom.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Two in Major League Baseball, maybe it's.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
More like bottom half, bottom third in Major League Baseball,
and maybe we can get that some compelling nature of
these games back. What have you in that sense? What
has been your thought in watching Mariner baseball this year?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Well, it's I think too many of the games have
been like soccer, where you know, if you're down by
one or two, you know, it's like Okay, if you
don't score first, or you just don't have a capacity
to have a comeback, I don't. I don't think soccer, don't.
I don't want to be controversial here. I know that
Jackson is on the board here. He's a huge soccer fan.
But I don't think it's known for its comeback ability, right.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Right, Mariner? Game feels like a to nothing soccer game?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Wow, really are wrong on that?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Enlighten me. I'll change my mind. I just feel like
a lot of times you watch, you.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Know, in soccer, we have a classic line in soccer,
which that to nothing is the most dangerous lead because
leads evaporate instantly.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Is that true yet?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Two goal leads evaporate just in this blink of an
eye in soccer.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
It's Jackson's saying soccer is more compelling than well in
a two run game.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, so so World Cup when when somebody gets up
one nothing and it appears like there's a defensive nature
to the rest of the game, And am me having
that impression? I'm wrong to have that impression.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
I think, Yeah, unless a team is a ridiculously good
defensively and at the same time be doing a thing
called parking the bus where they just sit back and say,
we're just going to sit back, defensively, do whatever. That's
a unique situation that some teams can pull off. But
in most cases teams are pretty balanced. And if if
a game isn't to nothing, it's still compelling because it
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could evaporate instantly.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Okay, So getting back to the Mariners, I've felt like
there's been a you know, just a distinct lack of
probability that you're going to have those comebacks. But you know,
since since the trade, since the trade deadline and the acquisitions. Now,
they scored ten runs, but but they didn't have their
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their against the White Sox, right, but they didn't have
a Rose Arena nor Turner. Somebody could say, well, there's
a booze to confidence, a shot in the arm, that
type of thing. But then then six runs, six runs,
seven runs, ten runs two ten six, and then you know,
I don't know if it was just the offense being
bad or just too much Zach Wheeler yesterday. But but
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I think you know, the Saturday night game, I mean
that would be if you wanted to make a reasonable
argument that that there's been a I want to say techtonic,
but a significant shift into who this baseball team is.
You would cite Saturday night as an example.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Now, unfortunately we got it shut back down in our
face yesterday and a one nothing game became a six
or nothing game.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
That's been since with the new lineup.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
That's true. That's true, and that's why I'm holding out hope.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
And that's why I'm almost using using the phrase the
Mariners aren't compelling in the past tense, more so in
the this is the way the rest of the season's
going to.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Go, because I do have hope. I do have hope.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I really like the moves they made at the deadline.
I am positive. The Houston Astros are not a very
good team. I think they are at best a good team,
and I think the Mariners are also a good team.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
So I mentioned with Softy on.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Friday, it's like, hey, can we tread water while we're
missing these two starters JP Crawford Julio Rodriguez? Can we
tread water with Houston? What I mean by tread water
is play, you know, somewhere around the pace of play
that you've had for the first one hundred and fifty
team games. You know, barely over five hundred ish baseball,
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because I think that's what Houston's gonna do for the
next twenty twenty five thirty days. They're going to play
just over five hundred baseball because I think that's who
Houston is.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
If we can do that over the.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Next twenty twenty five days, go into September, where it
is a one hundred meter dash.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
You, I mean, they are the Jamaicans.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
We are Noah Lyles, and we have one hundred meter
dash in the month of September. And we got all
the bullets back in the chamber. You got Julio in there,
you got JP in there, you got Justin Turner, who,
by the way, is not Ty France.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I heard that, you know.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
I read this all over Twitter when they picked up
Justin Turner and and a lot of people saying, well,
he's just Ty France. Well, let me tell you something.
Ty France, in his last sixty five at bats with
Seattle Mariners had no home runs and two RBIs in
sixty five at bats. Justin Turner, in his first fourteen
at bats with the Seattle Mariners, had one home run
and six RBIs. He has been more productive in his
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time than ty France was in the last two months combined,
so he is not Ty France and Randy rose Arenas
added a lot. So I do think when everybody gets back.
I've stated my goal as the twentieth best offense in baseball?
Can they be in September the twentieth best offense in baseball?
Because I think the twentieth best offense with a top
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three pitching staff is enough to go five six games
over five hundred in the month of October or in
the month of September, which should be enough if you're
already tied with Houston at the end of August, should
be enough to get this division.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yeah, you know it's interesting. Ahead we've been having this.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Discussion let's say February BArch or something. He said, Okay,
here's a couple of facts. The Manners are going to
be in first place in the first week of August.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You'd say, okay, sweet, sign me up. Yep.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
And and there's gonna be a period of a couple
of weeks where we're missing Julio and JP and you
have said, oh wow, bringing them back with be a
significant boost, right, But we're talking about a guy on
Julio slug in three seventy two, Crawford hit right two four,
and so it now do you judge a guy just
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on twenty twenty four? No, is anybody saying that that
baseball team isn't going to be better when you bring
those back?
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I wouldn't think so.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
No, But.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I'm I'm curious the halo effect, the just whatever, the
psycho the psychology. You know, there's the tangible part of okay,
what is that guy representing your lineup when they get
their guys back. Where's a Razor Rosarena gonna hit? How
is he How is he impacting in a in a
tangible sense? And then I have another category of of
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just between the ears cat okay, the fact that you
have Turner and all of his his experience in the
in the playoffs, and that now do you have a
field boost that cal Rawly a year ago was you know,
lamenting that the that the ownership didn't believe in them.
What what's what's the between the years effect of that?
Speaker 8 (26:01):
Now?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Okay, now they believe in him.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
They acquired these guys, and you know, does that give
a boost to either Crawford or Julio who are who
were having years that we didn't expect. And obviously Julio
is the most concerning of those because you just view
him as a guy that could be a Mike Trout
type of carry the team guy. But but it hasn't happened.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
And Softie sent out a poll this weekend asking if
the Mariners are going to make the playoffs, and I
was impressed there was over sixty percent of the people
said yes, the Marriagers are gonna make the playoffs. Baseball
Reference would actually agree. And they're not doing it by opinion.
They're doing it by numbers, sixty four point six percent
chance as of right this second, according to Baseball Reference,
that the Mariners are gonna make playoffs. You're talking about
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almost a two thirds chance.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Three forty. We got fun with Audio Hughes in for
Safty today on ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
It's now time for Softy in Dick's one with Audio.
Jimmy g pawn Star, Jimmy mister Garoppolo. Now let's have
some fun with audio.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Let's have some fun with Audio. We got some good
cuts today.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
We got some NFL, we got some baseball, we got
some Olympics.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Hey you did you hear that? Oh? Dick. Sorry you're
not ready, Jackson.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
I always forget that I have It's my job when
you and you're filling any one more time?
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I have it now?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Hey, huge, hear that?
Speaker 3 (27:22):
What's that, Dick?
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Last week, a federal judge gave the NFL a major win,
overturning a jury's decision and the four point seven billion
dollars verdict against the league and the Sunday Ticket lawsuit.
Our friend Mike Florio, our weekly guest, joined the Pat
mcabee Show to explain what happened in court and why
Sunday ticket users will no longer be getting any settlement checks.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
The jury found the Sunday ticket as it's currently packaged
and sold is an anti trust violation, and the judge
set there's more than enough evidence in the record to
support that fine.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
The problem is setting damages.
Speaker 8 (27:56):
So you got to construct this fake hypothetical world where
we figure out what would have been paid for Sunday
ticket but for the anti trust violation, and that's almost
impossible to do. So the plaintiffs put that forward with
expert witnesses that the judge decided we're confident enough to
testify a trial. He's the gatekeeper for these witnesses, and
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then after the verdict he says, oh, sorry, they're not
good enough. I mean, what the hell kick him out
before the trial and say you better find somebody else
or you.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Got no case.
Speaker 8 (28:28):
He waited until after the trial, after the verdict, and
he said, I never should have let these guys testify,
which is really a crocker if you're any of the plaintiffs,
and I mean that's a legal term.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I'm sorry if you're any of the.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
Plaintiffs, but we got no damages because the judge won't
accept the evidence.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
It's a crock oft bleep, It's a legal term. You
he's been fired up about this settlement case. I mean,
I'm not a Sunday Ticket uh subscriber, so I wasn't
in line for you know, what was supposed to be.
If you did the math, if you broke seven four
point seven billion dollars divided by all the Sunday Tickets subscribers,
it was well over one thousand dollars of the settlement
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that was going to happen. I wasn't one of those people,
so I wasn't. You know, I don't really care all
that much about it.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah, well, I've done some just as a late person,
some reading about the anti trust just because of my
capacity as a player rep. And we were going through
the process of decertifying the union in order to expose
the NFL and the system the draft, for example, free
agency to anti trust law as opposed to being superseded
by labor law because of a collective bargain. You can
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bargain away your rights under anti trust law.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
But this is not the first time we've seen this happen.
The USFL won an anti trust case. But they said
it was a dollar damage one dollar and and and
it's troubled anti trust laws is troubled. The damage so
oh three dollars, you know. So so I think that
it's not just a case of the problem to prove
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in theory, the damaged portion of it is critical and
and Mike Florio has a lot of agree and I
think I think he explained it well.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
That was the first time I ever heard the name
Donald Trump. Was that lawsuit back in you know, they're
in the mid eighties. Yeah, in the Washington Washington Generals.
Hey here, did you hear that that damn Dolphins wide
receiver Tyreek Hill joined the worth of The Game podcast
last week and answered the hypothetical what would happen if
Tyreek faced one on one with Dion Sanders in the
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primes of their career?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
You and your prime and prime time and his prime?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Did you did you putting a hundred yards on?
Speaker 9 (30:39):
I'm putting I'm putting one on the oh curry top
problem was a goat No. But you gotta understand though
they played a lot of Man the Man back in
the day. Yeah, you feel me, and like, I feel
like generations has changed and receivers has changed, and we
got so much stuff and our generation know so many
like crazy movements and we know all this crazy.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Prom used to show a whole half of a field deal,
but he was going against like Terry Rice sixth too, And.
Speaker 9 (31:07):
I'm I'm quicker. I'm not saying I'm all put the
whole one nine seven though by going deeper, running the
actual route, kitching screens, I'm doing whatever. You know what
I'm saying the game need me to do.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Don't forget about that. It is two to prizing.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
So right after this we we don't have the audio
for it because it was really you couldn't really hear
it very well, didn't do it justice. These guys actually
facetimed Deon Sanders and told him after the interview, they
told them what Tyreek had to say Dion's Dion's response
was so classic.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
He says, don't compare the moment to a monument. That's
what does that sound like? What do you think against? Again?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I was a Falcon when Dion was drafted, and just
how the locker room divvied up. His locker was immediately
next to mine, like next door neighbored locker. So I
know Dion well, I like him, great teammate, and then
I played against him, so.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I've had you know, and I witness.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Look, I think Tyreek Hill can say whatever, why stop
at one seventy five? Yeah, why did you say I'd
hang two seventy five on it? I mean, you know,
it can't be proven, it can't be falsified. Yes, they
played zone back in the day, right, Den played zone.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
And there's play.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
There's some zones that play like man depending on the release.
And so I look, I do not think that Tyreek
Hill could hang one hundred and seventy five on Dion
in his prime. I think he might get seventy seventy
five to one hundred, one hundred to be a lot.
Dion didn't give up one hundred very often, I imagine.
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But I have a great respect for Tyreek. But I
think it's just woofing right now. We can say whatever
the hell you want.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
That's right. The kid can't be proven, can't be disproven, Jacks.
Let's move number four here. Hey, Hugh, did you hear that?
What's that?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Dick ice Cube, the creator of the Big Three Basketball Tournament,
issued a challenge over the weekend to the future gold
medalists of the Olympic Three on three basketball Tournament this year.
Speaker 10 (33:22):
Okay, gold medal winner do jehabwey ice Q, whatever country
wins the gold medal, y'all need to come to Boston.
We're gonna pay for y'all trip to Boston hotels. Get
y'all a little cash, and let's see who's the best in
the world. You know what I'm saying. We believe that
are all stars will take you down. And if you
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don't believe it, we'll see you in Boston August eighteen.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Baby, yeah, yeah, Well, I have got an issue with
the selection of the three on three teams because both
men and women. Now, the women's aren't nearly as bad
as the men's are because the women are at least
using WNBA players. The men's team of Canyon Barry, Kareem Maddocks,
Dylan Travis, and Jimmer Fredett. That is the best that
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our country can put out in the Olympic Games to
play three on three basketball.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I mean that to me is like.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
A really good Spokane three on three tournament team, not
an Olympic three on three tournament team.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
The way they just like they just got knocked out.
They're done. They're done.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
So the US is out of the US is out of.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
The men's Yes, US is out of the men's And
you know, on the women's team, I mean Hayley van
Lyth is in it, and Ryan Howard is in it.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
There are some good players in it.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
But it's not like for me, I think the three
on three team should be the next best players that
don't make the five on five squad, like take the
you know, why isn't Jalen Brown of the Boston Celtics,
who should be on the Olympic team. Why isn't he
on the three on three team? If you want to,
if you're gonna go win the five on five Olympics
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by forty points a game.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Why not win the three on three Olympics?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Do they want to play?
Speaker 2 (35:10):
And then?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
And then what are the other countries doing? Are they?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Are they having close to their best players? I don't know,
it's new, don't.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Well, I'm why wouldn't My question is I don't know
the answer to that. But my question to respond to
that would be why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't it? Like
this is the Olympic Games. In my opinion, the Olympic
Games should be filled with the greatest athletes from that
sport that your country can produce.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
That is my opinion of what the That.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Is the whole point of the Olympic Games, right is
to put my best against your best. And we're rolling
out Kareem Maddocks, Canyon Barry and a guy that sounds
like a country singer in Dylan Travis.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I mean, what is that?
Speaker 4 (35:55):
I remember jimmad Get old b Yu guy. Probably he's
got to be thirty five.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yeah, yeah, Well, I don't know. The three on three
the best in the world.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
How well can guys just assimilate if they just want
to come and you know, pick it up after a
week or ten days. Obviously they're world class players. As
you said, any if you take the three, the last
three that didn't make the Olympic team, yes they would
have the potential to be a hell of a three
on three team. But is there some cohesion that that
some other team that's been playing three on three ball
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for years and years even though they're they're they're not
individually as talented that the hole is greater than the
some of the parts understood they've been playing for you know,
it's like the volleyball team, you don't make the volleyball team, go,
we'll go play two on two Sam.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Volleyball a little different. Yeah, obviously it's a different.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
But you know, but there may be some strategy to
two on two two volleyball that that you know, the
best court volleyball players don't, you know, although I would
imagine those guys, you know, their beach guys. They grew
up you know, in most cases playing volleyball on the
beat in addition to in addition to playing the gym.
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Speaking of the volleyball, the United States beat Brazil.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I just yeah, about an hour ago.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I'll tell you what that world class level volleyball that's
the hell of a sport.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
I mean, think of this. What do we like?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
What's some of our favorite things in basketball? Dunks and blocks, Yeah,
got it all. Volleyball has a dunk in a block
like multiple on every point.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
And and the women, you know, they I think smartly,
so they lower the net for the women so that
the women have an ability to get the dunks and
the blocks. You know, I think both the men and
the women volleyball game is immensely entertaining.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Three fifty seven Top of the Hour headlines, after an
update or an update Top of the our headlines, and
then we'll talk a little Seahawks football Geno Smith back
at camp today.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Coming up next on ninety three point three KJFM
Hubert love Millin, Hey, man, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (00:02):
What's up, Dick? How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:03):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 4 (00:03):
Great weekend, good weekend, kind of got to decompress a
little bit. Didn't have the typical massive amounts of kids'
sports going on on the weekend, so it was kind
of cool and actually got a lot of time to
watch the Olympics. I have been absolutely dialed in. We're
gonna talk a lot of mayor or baseball today. We'll
talk some Seahawks football, some NFL things. We've got some
(00:25):
conversations with the Husky players as well that I recorded
that I want to play for you as well and
get your thoughts on them. But you know, the Olympics
for me, and I don't know. I guess I'm not
alone because the ratings have been massive.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
For this Olympics.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
But it seems to me like something's different about this
year's Olympics than in years past, because I feel like
if I were to chart my Olympic interest in my
what this is forty years now that I can really
remember the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
The first Olympics I can really.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Remember is nineteen eighty four, and you know, as a
ten year old Carl Lewis against.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
The Iron curtain. Like it. It didn't get any better
in LA. I mean that was.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Interest level was ten out of ten. I mean that
was just Usa, Usa, Usa, And.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I was just ingrained in you.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
You had to beat you know, the red flag, right,
you had to beat the hammer in the sickle.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I mean, that was that was what it was all about.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
And it stayed really high for me over eighty eight,
ninety two, maybe in the ninety six and and it
kind of started to diminish a little bit, and I
still would watch it. But then the Tokyo Games were
so bizarre because they were a year later with COVID
and there was no fans in the stands.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
But this to me, I mean, just yesterday we watch Bobby.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Fink go wire to wire in the fifteen hundred, the
only gold medal American.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Man wins in swimming.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
We see that women's medley relay winning the last event
of the swimming competition to beat Australia in the gold
medal race by one. We see Novak Djokovic, who has
won countless major tournaments throughout his career, arguably the greatest
tennis player of all time, more emotional than I have
ever seen anyone more than I've seen him ever get
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in any one of his major championships. Scottie Scheffler in Tears,
Masters Champion in Tiars as the Star Spangled Banner is
being played, Noah Lyles winning the one hundred by five
one thousands of a second. This all came in one day,
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and every day, Hughes, seems like we have had these
unbelievable moments leading up to what I think was probably
the best day of all so far in the Olympics,
which was yesterday, was absolutely unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Well, I think a lot to respond to there, Yeah,
I think that. You know, in nineteen eighty course, the
United States boycotted Moscow games right due to the invasion
of Afghanistan, and eighty four Russia responded in Lai kind
did not come out. So to me, those were somewhat
anti climactic for me, just having vivid memories of seventy
(03:14):
two and seventy six, and seventy two was obviously, you know,
marked by the Soviet one point, very controversial one point
went over basketball US first loss ever. That was devastating,
you know, So seventy those two Olympiads in the height
of the Cold War, with all with the Soviet Union
and all of the warsaw Pack countries participating, that just
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felt like a tension beyond anything I've ever seen that,
you know, you never saw in any cultural sense, even
citizens from those countries behind the Iron Curtain, and the
only time they emerged like once every four years to
compete against the West and the rest of the world
obviously in the Olympics. So I think that the politics
or the nationalism in terms of a real bonafog Cold War,
(04:02):
I'm not sure that you experienced.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
It, probably because I was probably a little bit too young,
right because of the boycotts.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, and you know eighty eight, well that was a
year before the Wall fell, so so I think that
the Cold War was definitely on the vast decline. So
you know, there's there's some of our listeners maybe remember
sixty eight and sixty four.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
You know, that was obviously in the Cold War as well.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
But I do think if you're talking about that aspect,
of course Russia's not here now because.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Of there were in Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
So but for me, the Olympics, that was my initial
imprint is just that overriding and just like almost indescribable
and palpable undertones, overtones of.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
The Cold War.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
As for the popularity, I don't have a great answer.
I'm left to wonder if all of the nil and
the transfer portal, the the remaking of our favorite sports
in college athletics, and the quote unquote moved to professionalism
of those sports, maybe there's a longing for you know,
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what we think is is amateurism.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
That's that's associated with most of the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I understand most of even the so called non revenue sports,
you know, their athletes, they're professional athletes on some level, right,
But the Olympics just has a you know, there's a
cache a brand once every four years. It's uh, it's
it's it's incredibly sexy. And I think that those guys,
the you know, the Schefflers and and the uh the yeah, yeah,
(05:37):
I think I think, look, you see the NBA players,
I tip my hat to them.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
These guys, uh have you know, more money.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Than they could ever spend, and they can, and they
could be taking their summer off, but they are choosing
to go represent the United States. So I take note
of each and every one of them. So that just
speaks to hey, at some point we we we recognize
the the excellence that is an Olympic gold medal, and
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those guys are striving for it, even though they have
arguably more more cachet championships in their own sports.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
And I think we're seeing we're seeing an era, and
we probably have this frequently and we forget. I mean, obviously,
we had the Michael Phelps era where he, you know,
unquestionably I mean numerically became the greatest swimmer of all time,
passing Mark Spitz.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
But now we have it on the women's side with
La Decci. We have with some owne Biles.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I mean, we literally have a couple of female athletes
that I don't even think. I mean, I don't know
how many how anybody could argue, yes, we have Nadia
come in each is ten. Okay, we all remember that,
right if we're if we're old enough. But as far
as just the the the level of talent and the
level of athleticism in a particular sport, I mean, I
don't know how many how many anybody can even argue
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that some owne Biles isn't the greatest gymnast that has
ever walked the face of the earth. I mean, she
is just destroying people. Same thing with Katie Ladecki, I
think the greatest female swimmer of all time, and we're
seeing her still and now she's talking about coming back
in four years, and I think I think that leads
to ratings as well, because we all like superstars, and
I gotta tell you, in this era of you know,
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awful announcing and we like to rip everything that everybody's
doing in the broadcasting field, I think NBC is doing
a fantastic job. And maybe it's because it's being helped
by the fact that this is really the first streaming
Olympics where everybody kind of understands how to do the
streaming thing, right. I remember four years ago they tried
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to do the streaming thing. There were things on streaming,
but it was still like I mean, okay, how do
we find this?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
What is this? Where do I you know? What's this app?
W how do we work this?
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Now it's just kind of commonplace and so everybody now
can get whatever they want and if they want to
kind of ignore it, Like I've tried to kind of
ignore the headlines throughout the day, particularly on the weekend
when I'm not working. I don't want to know what happened,
because I want to sit with my family, and my
kids have been totally into it. I want to sit
with my family from seven thirty until ten o'clock at
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night and watch what happened that day in NBC. I
think has done an unbelievable job of pack you know,
packaging the greatest three hours of an entire day of
the Olympics into that prime time package.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
They put together.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Well, I agree, I think NB said does a great
job the one hundred meter called notwithstanding whoa boy?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
But we need to talk think about that.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I think that you know, a lot of times, you know,
legends you have, they have to move on before you
realize how great they are. For just one man's opinion,
for me, for the last several Olympiads, or you know,
over the last twenty you know, let's say, in this
in this millennium, to me, Michael Phelps has been the
most compelling athlete along and you Sain Bolt.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
You know, you say Bolt won three.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
You know, there was just a showmanship about him, his dominance,
you know, at his height, and of course he remains
the world record holder. So I think Usain Bolt really
had a draw. But then the you know, the was
it two thousand and eight when there was a question
of can he pass spits?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Ken Phelps pass spits?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Right, because there was a time up till high school
where I was a four sport guy. I was you know, football,
then basketball there on the spring, and then I was
a swimmer in the summer. So so you know, I'm
really drawing to swimming. And I thought the Phelps story,
and and I remember Mark Spitz because because I was
a swimmer and sit in nineteen seventy two, so I
was like, oh my god, Spitz was just you can't
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believe what a hero Mark Spitz was. And then in
seventy six, what a hero Bruce Jenner was. You know,
those are those guys were arguably the biggest names in
in those two Olympiads of the seventies.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Of course that's debatable, but as big.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
As they were just like like massive, Inner Glas, huge,
and so for I just remember Bruce Jenner.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
From the Whitis boxes. That's what I remember that.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, well, you know, I think the decathlon has lost
its cachet. I thought I remember feeling as a kid
that the decathlon winner was deemed to be the greatest
athlete in the world.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I don't hear people talk like that. I haven't heard
people talk like that for a long time.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Right, Maybe it's because it's a you know, mask, a
jack of all trades, master of none. When you talk
about who who goes to be an Olympic Kathla de Kathley.
But that was that was a really sexy gold medal.
The gold medal in the in the decathlon was really big.
And beginning back to Phelips, I think his quest to
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surpass Spitz is seven goals from seventy two. You know,
Spitz went into the water seven times, he came out
with seven goals and he If you wanted to make
an argument that Spitz was the greatest at that time,
you could say, hey, the one hundred meter free is
is quote unquote the world's fastest man. Just like the
one hundred meter sprint in Olympics, you are deemed the
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world's fastest man. If you wanted to build a case
against Phelps, you would say, on behalf of Spitz, you
would cite two things. And by the way, before I
say this, I would if I was a judge, I'd say, look,
Phelps wins.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
You know, pretty demonstrably.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
But if there was an argument for Spitz's seventy two
it was that number one, he won the hundred free,
so he was absolutely the world's fastest man in water.
And then also the margin of victories that he had.
He was more dominant in seventy two than Phelps was
in his now Phelps. So so for Phelps to say, hey,
(11:43):
my Olympia Olympics is better than Mark Spitz is in
seventy two, he had, he had a lot, he had
to get the eight goals, and and he did, and
so to me, and then and then Dan Hicks to me,
I think you say, who are the greatest announcers Hicks
and games? You know, I'll say Keith Jackson in football?
You know, you know I think Kurt Gowdy gets under sold.
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I mean, you know, al Michaels is a classic play
by play guy.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
You look, you're play by play guy.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
You'd speak better this to this than me. But for
my ear, I cannot imagine a guy. You know, I
think of all those Phelps races, for Dan Hicks to
be on the mic, absolutely a perfection as an announcer.
He just draw you. There's a way that he drew you.
An n rowdy gains and you know, I thought that
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the broadcast was just a pinnacle while felt during Phelps'.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Career, and it was great again last night. And I'll
tell you one thing, Dan Hicks isn't gonna call a
race before it's over here, like we saw last night
in the one hundred.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Meters Oh oh, boil boy.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
I mean I'm watching, I am watching that and the
announcer calls it. I mean, I've got no idea who
I mean, I'm I have no idea who won. And
the announcer is making a definitive call that the Jamaican
has beaten Noahliles.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
And yet it.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Didn't jive with what he was saying, didn't jive with
the picture, because you're watching the picture of them finishing
the race, and both of them are looking up at
the clock like.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Who won, who won? Who won?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
And yet a definitive call is made that the Jamaican
beat Noahliles, And then we found out thirty seconds later
that he didn't.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You know, those there's a there's a rare brand of
airball that hits just before the rim, but it hits
the net and it makes the net responding away somewhat
like the ball that went in. That would be like
you the last second of the w NBA Championship.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
You make the call and you shit.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
It's good and it hit the bottom of the net.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
It was an airbill under the net, Like I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
You know what I would help this conversation is the
actual clutch?
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Please think I was gonna say, I was just gonna say,
it's so here.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
It is an Olympic medal winning for somebody wants in
the lamps. Now Thompson, stuff's turning up, Tomas coming with him.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
We thought it was gonna take nine seven to win.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Guess what you just lay nine point.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Eight diffy of of NBC. And yes, I mean I
will you know, I will credit NBC for a for
a great Olympics. And he's actually done a very good
job on the calls. I've heard a lot of his
calls thus far, and he was excited and I think
he just I think he wanted to make an epic call, Hugh.
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I think he wanted to make a memorable call. And
I think that he knew that if he was uncertain,
it wasn't going to be a memorable call. If it
was gonna be if it going to go down in history.
It was, it's not going to be a memorable call.
It's like, oh, we're gonna have to wait for the video. Right,
that's not going to be a memorable call.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And so oh not.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
His head, But that sounds plausible to me.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Sean McDonough, the announcers, one of my really good friends,
weird neighbors back when I was with the Patriots and
have maintained a friendship for a long time. He's the
lead play by play guy for the NHL and the
Stanley Cup on ESPN, right, and and not this year,
but last.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Year he had a call.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
There was a call where just some you know, how
hockey can be, how you know the puck can be,
like where'd the puck go? It actually scored, but it
got stuck in the top of the net. And I
talked to him like a two days later, and he
was still mortified, Like everybody in the industry is like, dude,
there's no way you could have seen that. But he
was just apoplectic that he had booted the call. And
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it wasn't an end of game call. I don't think
it was, but but but anyway, he missed it and
and he had to Cabrera call when he used to
do the World series.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
The Pirates Braves.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, and his voice cracked just a little, and you know,
twenty years later he's just still He goes, I hate
that call.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I hate that call, is Sean.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
That's an iconic call, in part because your voice did
crack and he.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Just no, no, no, no not. I hate it. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
So the announcers that I know, you know, you're one
of them, obviously, they are very hyper critical. And I
can't imagine if Sean had had called that in that manner,
he would be I mean, he'd be suicidal.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Oh brutal anyway, So enough enough of announcing.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Three twenty one, we got got more Olympics to talk about. Mariners, Seahawks.
Gino Smith is back. Huskies are nearly I would I
can almost say the Huskies are a top twenty five team,
that close to being a top twenty five team, as
the first poll has come out. A lot to get
to on the show until seven on ninety three point
three KJRFM Live.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
From the R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio. Now
back to Softie and Gone your home for the Huskies
and the CRECD Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ
R FM.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
No Mariners today.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
They begin a series tomorrow after taking two of three
against Philadelphia. And you I think I use the word
compelling more than once in the last segment to describe
how I felt the Olympics have been on a nightly basis.
I'm not what I'm about to say is not going
to be an indictment on the rest of the season
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and how I think the rest of the season is
necessarily going to play out.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
But see if you agree with me on this.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Mariner baseball this year, in particular, to me, has not
been compelling baseball for the simple reason that if you
get five six innings into a game. Now obviously Saturday
was a noticeable exception to this rule. But if you
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get five six innings into a game and you already
know who's going to win that game, that to me
is not all that compelling. And when the Mariners get
up four to one in a baseball game in the
fifth or six inning, you know, almost beyond a shadow
of a doubt, who's gonna win the game.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
And the Mariners get down four.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
To one in the fifth or sixth inning of a
baseball game, you almost know beyond a shadow of a doubt, who's.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Gonna win the baseball game.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
So I can just remember all these teams in the
past that there was just so many wild swings over
the course of games. Maybe it's because the bullpen was bad.
Maybe it's because they only had two or three good
starting pitchers and they had a couple of bad starting pitchers.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Maybe it's because the offense.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Was really really good and had the ability to pull
out of five to.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
One holes all the time.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
In in certain the refuse to lose years, the two
out so what years? And it's just I just him
having a hard time wrapping my arms around this particular
baseball team being very compelling. Now, having said that these additions,
when Julio comes back, when JP comes back, maybe the
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offense isn't bottom.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Two in Major League Baseball, maybe it's.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
More like bottom half, bottom third in Major League Baseball,
and maybe we can get that some compelling nature of
these games back. What have you in that sense? What
has been your thought in watching Mariner baseball this year?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Well, it's I think too many of the games have
been like soccer, where you know, if you're down by
one or two, you know, it's like Okay, if you
don't score first, or you just don't have a capacity
to have a comeback, I don't. I don't think soccer, don't.
I don't want to be controversial here. I know that
Jackson is on the board here. He's a huge soccer fan.
But I don't think it's known for its comeback ability, right.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Right, Mariner? Game feels like a to nothing soccer game?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Wow, really are wrong on that?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Enlighten me. I'll change my mind. I just feel like
a lot of times you watch, you.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Know, in soccer, we have a classic line in soccer,
which that to nothing is the most dangerous lead because
leads evaporate instantly.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Is that true yet?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Two goal leads evaporate just in this blink of an
eye in soccer.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
It's Jackson's saying soccer is more compelling than well in
a two run game.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, so so World Cup when when somebody gets up
one nothing and it appears like there's a defensive nature
to the rest of the game, And am me having
that impression? I'm wrong to have that impression.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
I think, Yeah, unless a team is a ridiculously good
defensively and at the same time be doing a thing
called parking the bus where they just sit back and say,
we're just going to sit back, defensively, do whatever. That's
a unique situation that some teams can pull off. But
in most cases teams are pretty balanced. And if if
a game isn't to nothing, it's still compelling because it
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could evaporate instantly.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Okay, So getting back to the Mariners, I've felt like
there's been a you know, just a distinct lack of
probability that you're going to have those comebacks. But you know,
since since the trade, since the trade deadline and the acquisitions. Now,
they scored ten runs, but but they didn't have their
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their against the White Sox, right, but they didn't have
a Rose Arena nor Turner. Somebody could say, well, there's
a booze to confidence, a shot in the arm, that
type of thing. But then then six runs, six runs,
seven runs, ten runs two ten six, and then you know,
I don't know if it was just the offense being
bad or just too much Zach Wheeler yesterday. But but
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I think you know, the Saturday night game, I mean
that would be if you wanted to make a reasonable
argument that that there's been a I want to say techtonic,
but a significant shift into who this baseball team is.
You would cite Saturday night as an example.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Now, unfortunately we got it shut back down in our
face yesterday and a one nothing game became a six
or nothing game.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
That's been since with the new lineup.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
That's true. That's true, and that's why I'm holding out hope.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
And that's why I'm almost using using the phrase the
Mariners aren't compelling in the past tense, more so in
the this is the way the rest of the season's
going to.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Go, because I do have hope. I do have hope.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I really like the moves they made at the deadline.
I am positive. The Houston Astros are not a very
good team. I think they are at best a good team,
and I think the Mariners are also a good team.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
So I mentioned with Softy on.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Friday, it's like, hey, can we tread water while we're
missing these two starters JP Crawford Julio Rodriguez? Can we
tread water with Houston? What I mean by tread water
is play, you know, somewhere around the pace of play
that you've had for the first one hundred and fifty
team games. You know, barely over five hundred ish baseball,
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because I think that's what Houston's gonna do for the
next twenty twenty five thirty days. They're going to play
just over five hundred baseball because I think that's who
Houston is.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
If we can do that over the.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Next twenty twenty five days, go into September, where it
is a one hundred meter dash.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
You, I mean, they are the Jamaicans.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
We are Noah Lyles, and we have one hundred meter
dash in the month of September. And we got all
the bullets back in the chamber. You got Julio in there,
you got JP in there, you got Justin Turner, who,
by the way, is not Ty France.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I heard that, you know.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
I read this all over Twitter when they picked up
Justin Turner and and a lot of people saying, well,
he's just Ty France. Well, let me tell you something.
Ty France, in his last sixty five at bats with
Seattle Mariners had no home runs and two RBIs in
sixty five at bats. Justin Turner, in his first fourteen
at bats with the Seattle Mariners, had one home run
and six RBIs. He has been more productive in his
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time than ty France was in the last two months combined,
so he is not Ty France and Randy rose Arenas
added a lot. So I do think when everybody gets back.
I've stated my goal as the twentieth best offense in baseball?
Can they be in September the twentieth best offense in baseball?
Because I think the twentieth best offense with a top
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three pitching staff is enough to go five six games
over five hundred in the month of October or in
the month of September, which should be enough if you're
already tied with Houston at the end of August, should
be enough to get this division.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yeah, you know it's interesting. Ahead we've been having this.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Discussion let's say February BArch or something. He said, Okay,
here's a couple of facts. The Manners are going to
be in first place in the first week of August.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You'd say, okay, sweet, sign me up. Yep.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
And and there's gonna be a period of a couple
of weeks where we're missing Julio and JP and you
have said, oh wow, bringing them back with be a
significant boost, right, But we're talking about a guy on
Julio slug in three seventy two, Crawford hit right two four,
and so it now do you judge a guy just
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on twenty twenty four? No, is anybody saying that that
baseball team isn't going to be better when you bring
those back?
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I wouldn't think so.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
No, But.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I'm I'm curious the halo effect, the just whatever, the
psycho the psychology. You know, there's the tangible part of okay,
what is that guy representing your lineup when they get
their guys back. Where's a Razor Rosarena gonna hit? How
is he How is he impacting in a in a
tangible sense? And then I have another category of of
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just between the ears cat okay, the fact that you
have Turner and all of his his experience in the
in the playoffs, and that now do you have a
field boost that cal Rawly a year ago was you know,
lamenting that the that the ownership didn't believe in them.
What what's what's the between the years effect of that?
Speaker 8 (26:01):
Now?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Okay, now they believe in him.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
They acquired these guys, and you know, does that give
a boost to either Crawford or Julio who are who
were having years that we didn't expect. And obviously Julio
is the most concerning of those because you just view
him as a guy that could be a Mike Trout
type of carry the team guy. But but it hasn't happened.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
And Softie sent out a poll this weekend asking if
the Mariners are going to make the playoffs, and I
was impressed there was over sixty percent of the people
said yes, the Marriagers are gonna make the playoffs. Baseball
Reference would actually agree. And they're not doing it by opinion.
They're doing it by numbers, sixty four point six percent
chance as of right this second, according to Baseball Reference,
that the Mariners are gonna make playoffs. You're talking about
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almost a two thirds chance.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Three forty. We got fun with Audio Hughes in for
Safty today on ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
It's now time for Softy in Dick's one with Audio.
Jimmy g pawn Star, Jimmy mister Garoppolo. Now let's have
some fun with audio.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Let's have some fun with Audio. We got some good
cuts today.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
We got some NFL, we got some baseball, we got
some Olympics.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Hey you did you hear that? Oh? Dick. Sorry you're
not ready, Jackson.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
I always forget that I have It's my job when
you and you're filling any one more time?
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I have it now?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Hey, huge, hear that?
Speaker 3 (27:22):
What's that, Dick?
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Last week, a federal judge gave the NFL a major win,
overturning a jury's decision and the four point seven billion
dollars verdict against the league and the Sunday Ticket lawsuit.
Our friend Mike Florio, our weekly guest, joined the Pat
mcabee Show to explain what happened in court and why
Sunday ticket users will no longer be getting any settlement checks.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
The jury found the Sunday ticket as it's currently packaged
and sold is an anti trust violation, and the judge
set there's more than enough evidence in the record to
support that fine.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
The problem is setting damages.
Speaker 8 (27:56):
So you got to construct this fake hypothetical world where
we figure out what would have been paid for Sunday
ticket but for the anti trust violation, and that's almost
impossible to do. So the plaintiffs put that forward with
expert witnesses that the judge decided we're confident enough to
testify a trial. He's the gatekeeper for these witnesses, and
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then after the verdict he says, oh, sorry, they're not
good enough. I mean, what the hell kick him out
before the trial and say you better find somebody else
or you.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Got no case.
Speaker 8 (28:28):
He waited until after the trial, after the verdict, and
he said, I never should have let these guys testify,
which is really a crocker if you're any of the plaintiffs,
and I mean that's a legal term.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I'm sorry if you're any of the.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
Plaintiffs, but we got no damages because the judge won't
accept the evidence.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
It's a crock oft bleep, It's a legal term. You
he's been fired up about this settlement case. I mean,
I'm not a Sunday Ticket uh subscriber, so I wasn't
in line for you know, what was supposed to be.
If you did the math, if you broke seven four
point seven billion dollars divided by all the Sunday Tickets subscribers,
it was well over one thousand dollars of the settlement
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that was going to happen. I wasn't one of those people,
so I wasn't. You know, I don't really care all
that much about it.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah, well, I've done some just as a late person,
some reading about the anti trust just because of my
capacity as a player rep. And we were going through
the process of decertifying the union in order to expose
the NFL and the system the draft, for example, free
agency to anti trust law as opposed to being superseded
by labor law because of a collective bargain. You can
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bargain away your rights under anti trust law.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
But this is not the first time we've seen this happen.
The USFL won an anti trust case. But they said
it was a dollar damage one dollar and and and
it's troubled anti trust laws is troubled. The damage so
oh three dollars, you know. So so I think that
it's not just a case of the problem to prove
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in theory, the damaged portion of it is critical and
and Mike Florio has a lot of agree and I
think I think he explained it well.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
That was the first time I ever heard the name
Donald Trump. Was that lawsuit back in you know, they're
in the mid eighties. Yeah, in the Washington Washington Generals.
Hey here, did you hear that that damn Dolphins wide
receiver Tyreek Hill joined the worth of The Game podcast
last week and answered the hypothetical what would happen if
Tyreek faced one on one with Dion Sanders in the
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primes of their career?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
You and your prime and prime time and his prime?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Did you did you putting a hundred yards on?
Speaker 9 (30:39):
I'm putting I'm putting one on the oh curry top
problem was a goat No. But you gotta understand though
they played a lot of Man the Man back in
the day. Yeah, you feel me, and like, I feel
like generations has changed and receivers has changed, and we
got so much stuff and our generation know so many
like crazy movements and we know all this crazy.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Prom used to show a whole half of a field deal,
but he was going against like Terry Rice sixth too, And.
Speaker 9 (31:07):
I'm I'm quicker. I'm not saying I'm all put the
whole one nine seven though by going deeper, running the
actual route, kitching screens, I'm doing whatever. You know what
I'm saying the game need me to do.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Don't forget about that. It is two to prizing.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
So right after this we we don't have the audio
for it because it was really you couldn't really hear
it very well, didn't do it justice. These guys actually
facetimed Deon Sanders and told him after the interview, they
told them what Tyreek had to say Dion's Dion's response
was so classic.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
He says, don't compare the moment to a monument. That's
what does that sound like? What do you think against? Again?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I was a Falcon when Dion was drafted, and just
how the locker room divvied up. His locker was immediately
next to mine, like next door neighbored locker. So I
know Dion well, I like him, great teammate, and then
I played against him, so.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I've had you know, and I witness.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Look, I think Tyreek Hill can say whatever, why stop
at one seventy five? Yeah, why did you say I'd
hang two seventy five on it? I mean, you know,
it can't be proven, it can't be falsified. Yes, they
played zone back in the day, right, Den played zone.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
And there's play.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
There's some zones that play like man depending on the release.
And so I look, I do not think that Tyreek
Hill could hang one hundred and seventy five on Dion
in his prime. I think he might get seventy seventy
five to one hundred, one hundred to be a lot.
Dion didn't give up one hundred very often, I imagine.
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But I have a great respect for Tyreek. But I
think it's just woofing right now. We can say whatever
the hell you want.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
That's right. The kid can't be proven, can't be disproven, Jacks.
Let's move number four here. Hey, Hugh, did you hear that?
What's that?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Dick ice Cube, the creator of the Big Three Basketball Tournament,
issued a challenge over the weekend to the future gold
medalists of the Olympic Three on three basketball Tournament this year.
Speaker 10 (33:22):
Okay, gold medal winner do jehabwey ice Q, whatever country
wins the gold medal, y'all need to come to Boston.
We're gonna pay for y'all trip to Boston hotels. Get
y'all a little cash, and let's see who's the best in
the world. You know what I'm saying. We believe that
are all stars will take you down. And if you
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don't believe it, we'll see you in Boston August eighteen.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Baby, yeah, yeah, Well, I have got an issue with
the selection of the three on three teams because both
men and women. Now, the women's aren't nearly as bad
as the men's are because the women are at least
using WNBA players. The men's team of Canyon Barry, Kareem Maddocks,
Dylan Travis, and Jimmer Fredett. That is the best that
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our country can put out in the Olympic Games to
play three on three basketball.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I mean that to me is like.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
A really good Spokane three on three tournament team, not
an Olympic three on three tournament team.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
The way they just like they just got knocked out.
They're done. They're done.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
So the US is out of the US is out of.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
The men's Yes, US is out of the men's And
you know, on the women's team, I mean Hayley van
Lyth is in it, and Ryan Howard is in it.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
There are some good players in it.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
But it's not like for me, I think the three
on three team should be the next best players that
don't make the five on five squad, like take the
you know, why isn't Jalen Brown of the Boston Celtics,
who should be on the Olympic team. Why isn't he
on the three on three team? If you want to,
if you're gonna go win the five on five Olympics
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by forty points a game.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Why not win the three on three Olympics?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Do they want to play?
Speaker 2 (35:10):
And then?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
And then what are the other countries doing? Are they?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Are they having close to their best players? I don't know,
it's new, don't.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Well, I'm why wouldn't My question is I don't know
the answer to that. But my question to respond to
that would be why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't it? Like
this is the Olympic Games. In my opinion, the Olympic
Games should be filled with the greatest athletes from that
sport that your country can produce.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
That is my opinion of what the That.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Is the whole point of the Olympic Games, right is
to put my best against your best. And we're rolling
out Kareem Maddocks, Canyon Barry and a guy that sounds
like a country singer in Dylan Travis.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I mean, what is that?
Speaker 4 (35:55):
I remember jimmad Get old b Yu guy. Probably he's
got to be thirty five.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yeah, yeah, Well, I don't know. The three on three
the best in the world.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
How well can guys just assimilate if they just want
to come and you know, pick it up after a
week or ten days. Obviously they're world class players. As
you said, any if you take the three, the last
three that didn't make the Olympic team, yes they would
have the potential to be a hell of a three
on three team. But is there some cohesion that that
some other team that's been playing three on three ball
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for years and years even though they're they're they're not
individually as talented that the hole is greater than the
some of the parts understood they've been playing for you know,
it's like the volleyball team, you don't make the volleyball team, go,
we'll go play two on two Sam.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Volleyball a little different. Yeah, obviously it's a different.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
But you know, but there may be some strategy to
two on two two volleyball that that you know, the
best court volleyball players don't, you know, although I would
imagine those guys, you know, their beach guys. They grew
up you know, in most cases playing volleyball on the
beat in addition to in addition to playing the gym.
(37:08):
Speaking of the volleyball, the United States beat Brazil.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I just yeah, about an hour ago.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I'll tell you what that world class level volleyball that's
the hell of a sport.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
I mean, think of this. What do we like?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
What's some of our favorite things in basketball? Dunks and blocks, Yeah,
got it all. Volleyball has a dunk in a block
like multiple on every point.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
And and the women, you know, they I think smartly,
so they lower the net for the women so that
the women have an ability to get the dunks and
the blocks. You know, I think both the men and
the women volleyball game is immensely entertaining.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Three fifty seven Top of the Hour headlines, after an
update or an update Top of the our headlines, and
then we'll talk a little Seahawks football Geno Smith back
at camp today.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
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