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June 20, 2024 • 16 mins
Kenny Mayne, former ESPN broadcaster, joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about Run Freely, his upcoming Wiffle Ball movie, Willie Mays passing away this week, the hopeful upcoming return of the Seattle SuperSonics, the Mariners, and Tom Brady.
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All right, joining us right nowon the radio show. I was just

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thinking to myself as you were kindof going back and forth with Kenny off
the air about all of the contributionsthat he made to society when he was
at ESPN for all those years,and I can't really think of anything positive
that he did when he was atESPN. So I'm finally now happy that
Kenny is working on these projects,he's giving back to veterans and finally,

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at this stage of his life,ready to be a shining light on society
and give something back to this country. Kenny Maine joining us on the program.
How are you well, I'm alsomaking political commercials, so yeah,
I mean, as long as tobring it up, I think you know
a side of them on No.You know what's really cool in the last
hour, I think it was wejust found out the veteran that we just

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helped support. And that's a lotnot we when I say we mean everybody
who contributed. Yeah, we havea foundation called Run Freely and the guys
down there in gig Harbor and he'smoving without pain for the first time in
thirteen years. Awesome. I thinkyou've never if you've never been in chronic
pain. You don't quite get it. You're like, oh, that's cool,
good for him. But if you'veever lived with it, so those

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who have, I think get ita little bit more. But he's in
the US Coast Guard, yep,and he's going back in the service.
He's been doing it pain with pain. Now he's going to do without pain.
So it's called run freely, Runfreely. Org No. I love
it well. Kenny Mane is withus. And I'm kidding about your time
at ESPN, obviously because you inspireda legion of broadcasters, especially from this

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neck of the woods, when peoplefound out you were from here to follow
in your footsteps. But now you'regoing down the movie road. You're doing
documentaries, you're in the production game, and you chose wiffle ball as your
first subject. So tell me aboutwhy you're doing this and what it's all
about. I'm coming to Seattle forthe Seahawks and the Safeway golf events,

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and then Wednesday, this next Wednesday, the twenty sixth, the Seattle Festival.
The Seattle International Film Festival just ended, but this is the Seattle Film
Festival and they've got a couple oflocations. My little story. Whiffleball is
the first one they're rolling. Somehowthey must hat a lottery or something.
I don't know. It has todo with the day. In nineteen eighty

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nine, I was at Channel elevenCASSIDYW in my second year of sports reporting,
and I went to the Seattle ScienceCenter with Ken Griffy Junior as a
rookie and Harold Reynolds and we threwwhiffleballs for speed And I've had the tape
sitting around in basements and garages inmy shelf, and Griffy kind of brought
up the story to me about ayear ago at the Seattle Sports Award Show,

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and I was like, I'm goingto make a story of that.
There's something funny about what happened thatday, like finding out the truth because
I've been telling people I beat Griffyall these years on the speed pitch.
Right on tape, it shows thatwe tied, but getting the tape was
hard to tell. Like nobody hasthirty four year old machines anymore, right,
Like getting the ability to Trents forthe tape and find out the truth

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of what happened. We got KenBurns in it, We got Pearl Jam
music, Head and Heart Music.Sam Michaw the Rapper did a great job.
My brother in law Robert Watson dida great job, and John Goo
Edison and we take it's half wayfunny, so we're hopeful people see it
and we get it out in theworld in some larger way one day soon.

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Well, if you did it,it's more than halfway funny. Yeah,
that's for sure. Kenny Maine joiningus. How about the passion of
withfle Ball. Tell me about thethirteen twelve, eleven year old Kenny Maine,
because I know what I was doingat eleven years old, and I
was playing with Wall every single afternoonafter school. Oh, we did that.
We did all day, especially inthe summers, and we would keep
stats. Mark Sansover he broke BabeBruce Homern record in one summer, the

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summer of nineteen seventy two. Wehad to discount some of the home runs
later because we used the fat backand my sister wasn't home to take us
to Value mart up on High inany nine, So we had to you
know, like a hat, it'sspare at bat right because those yellow that's
would break. Eventually we hit himenough times, you had to have a
supply of balls. We made mysisters sing the anthem, we lit off
fireworks. We'd lined the bases witheither flour or sugar, whichever I could

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steal off. And we were completewhiffleball dorks. We did it day after
day after day, year after year. I even played into my twenties.
We later I would use the biggerwhiffleball, the softball size, because you
could throw it harder. I hada little more weight to it. But
yeah, whiffleball has been in mylife since I was a little kid.
I went to whiffleball headquarters for thismovie we made. That's in Connecticut,

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by the way. The guy whoinvented whiffleball, it's a great story.
He told his wife he had ajob, and he didn't. He cashed
in his life insurance falls and pretendedto go to work while he developed this
whiffleball thing with a friend ultimately madethis insanely successful business since the nineteen fifties.

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You know, it's a worldwide knownthey I've been to the fact three.
Like I said, we had kenBurns in it. We got a
UW professor in it. We wentto drive line baseball down and Kent as
part of the story. Wow.So hopefully hopefully people think it's definitely entertaining.
Yeah, hopefully drive line and cando what it can do for you
what they did for JP Crawford,because they they really were great for him,
no question about it. But Kennymains with us, and Kenny,

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I'm gonna plead ignorance. I don'thave any kids. I mean, Dick's
got kids, obviously, But arekids still playing WIF football today? Is
that still a thing for nine tenyear olds? Are they all inside playing
video games? Well, our kidsare a little bit older. But we
just had the graduation party for thelast of our four daughters. Unless we
have a new family that we startnow. No, the last of the

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four we have. We had ourhigh school graduation party and Gretchen said,
you lay out the game. SoI put a corn hole here, and
I had a little golf bucket game, and I put croquet over there,
and I laid out a whiffleball batand five new balls, and it got
a lot of actions. You gethigh school kids. So I think whiffleball
has sustained. I mean they're youknow, they're selling millions of ball still
they crank him out every day.Kenny made joining us Kenny. Obviously,

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the baseball world, the sports worldsuffered a tremendous loss this week. Did
you have any interactions with Willie Mays? Only that I got to meet him,
which was a thrill all by itself. It was at a Kentucky derby
Willie May and Henry Aaron at thesame table. And then I'd say,
my greatest interaction regarding him was whenI wasn't with him, but I was.

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I don't know if you remember,but I used to play in those
softball games they would have at theAll Star break for ESPN. They'd mike
me up and all that. Andthere was one I think it was New
York. I think it was thelast Yankee Stadium game. And the kids
are always trying to get everybody's autographedbefore you know, when there's anything going
on, and they got desperate,like I was one of the few people
still hanging around. Some little kid, the poor kid, like he's somebody,

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he's on the field. I wanthis autograph. He hands me a
baseball to sign with his father thereand I look at the ball, says
Willie Mays. Henry Aaron and Iforget. The third name was somebody you.
I said, here, take thisball back. You'll thank me in
twenty years. I promised, yougive me a napkin, give me a

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crackerjack box. And so I savedthat kid his financial future. I think
a little bit there. Yeah,yeah, I mean the ball. When
I was a little little kid.You know, we didn't have baseball in
Seattle. I'm I'm growing up insouth of Seattle in Kent. The pilots
came in nineteen sixty nine. Butyou know, we started playing baseball and
woo football and all that as agefive or six or whatever. And we
kept hearing about this Willie Mays guydown the coast in San Francisco because my

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good friend who lived two doors down, Jeff Whinden, came from that area.
I think they were in Palo Altosomewhere, and they were bragging up
this Willy Mays guy. So,you know, once I could read,
we started reading about him and watchinghim on what, you know, what
counted as sports highlights back in thosedays, you didn't get that many.
But yeah, he was something justand going through everything he went through,

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having you know, you know,to the neuro leagues, and Birmingham and
serving the army and you know,just absolutely legend, let alone what he
did on the field. Yeah.Well, Willie may is obviously as a
star, and Hank Aaron on theball as well. You could have those
two guys and have my signature onit. You wouldn't give a damn.
That's good enough with just those twoguys by themselves. So I'd love to
find out one day who that thirdsignature was. But Kenny Maine with Us

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on the Air, has a newfeature film, a new production coming out,
will Full Ball, So keep aneye on that, Kenny. I
got to ask you because it seemslike whenever we see you in Seattle there's
normally some sonic theme around it.And I don't know if that's just because
you've been an advocate, you know, nationally for this thing to come back
and happen, but man, itfeels like, dude, we're getting close.

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Brother. It feels like we aresniffing the finish line with this thing.
Do you share that optimism. I'mstaying optimistic, but I'm very disappointed
that it hasn't happened yet, Like, how long are they going to talk
about it before they say it's athing. I think we've proven there's enough
worldwide basketball talent, you know,to add on a team or two,

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plus all the money that would beinvolved. So I just don't know why
they don't just say yes. Youknow, I've heard the last time it
was Vegas, Seattle of Mexico City. Nothing against Mexico City if they if
they pulled the trigger, they're great. But you know, we have the
gym. Now that was the problem, right, or at least that was
the alleged issue, that we didn'thave a good enough facility. The Storm

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and the Kraken play there and theconcerts are held there. It's an amazing
building. They took the old coliseumand you know, took it to the
twenty first century. So yeah,I'm open any day. Like, I
don't know what the hold up is. So I just hope that sooner than
later we hear that we got ateam coming back. Kenny, how closely
you following this first place baseball team? I don't get to say first place

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baseball team very often here in Seattle, only from a distance. I'm mad
that I haven't been out as much. I'm mostly living in Connecticut. I
got remarried, and like I said, the last of our four daughters was
just finishing high school. Here.I try to get west every chance I
can. So I'm coming Saturday.I'm going to play in the Seahawks and
the Safeway golf events and then dothe film Festival Wednesday. But man,

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they've I just heard your report.They lost, I guess today. But
what are they eight or nine gamesup there? You know, there's none
wrong with that is I don't havethey ever had a margin that large twenty
twenty oh one, maybe fast time, second time in franchise history they've had
a double digit lead at any pointin time during the year in forty eight
years, the year they won onehundred and sixteen games or something. But

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it's pretty fun, you know,like early I think they've elevated a bit,
but it's like every pitcher had anera of like, you know,
point oh five to two or somethinglike. That's a good way to start.
So I'm hoping I can catch themgames this summer in person and give
them, give them some support.You know, we love having you on,
Kenny for a lot of reasons.I like to think of you as

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kind of like an old country buffet. There's just a lot there and we
can just kind of pick and choose, you know, what we want to
talk about and what want to takehome and skip. And I got to
ask you, man, Tom Brady'sgoing to be a guy for Fox this
year. And I didn't see isit the UFL whatever the hell he was
doing on TV the other day,but everyone says he was great. How
do you think Tom Brady will doin the booth this year? Oh,

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he should be fine. I didn'tsee that performance, but I read about
it. He's been very diligent.I'll tell you. I'm kind of like,
dude, it's football, just gosay stuff. Just yeah, they
were in too deep and the guyfound the place in the zone. Yeah,
Like, he'll be fine. He'sa smart guy. I kind of
I think it's kind of cool thathe's that into it, that he really
wants it to He wants to beperfect. He's a perfectionist. They're paying

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him enough money he should be aperfectionist. So I'm sure he'll be just
fine. He'll do great at whateverhe does. Well. We're watching this
Women's PGA Championship on TV. Weshould be out there because it's only about
twenty miles away. It's great thatwe have it here in the in the
Northwest. But you know, howabout the PGA. I mean, you're
a golf fan, you tweeted aboutit all the time. I mean,
what's your feeling about finally getting eithera regular PGA event or a major back

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out here in the Northwest. Yeah, I'm gonna be I was interrupting you.
I'm sorry. I'm going to bethere on Sunday for the Women's PGA
at Sahli. I played there lastsummer. I lost like two hundred balls.
Like it was one of the worstgolf. We just quit counting score
and said, let's enjoy the nature, let's walk on. You have to
be accurate there, But that's gonnabe fun to watch the end of that.

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I don't know why Seattle is sucha good destination. The way you
know it is is how many timescertain baseball fans come and kind of take
over the stadium early. Try toright. Toronto does it, New York
does it. I think Philly doesa little bit. And they people will
plan like, hey, we're gonnago to the West for five days,
seed Mount r and Air and goto two baseball games, and the same

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would apply for golf. Right,there's so many things to do. The
place is so pretty, like there'sno reason with all the different courses we
have that shouldn't be more regular.Thing. How's your game, by the
way, yesterday it was really good. So I had my car stolen a
month ago, and it gets funnier. So they stole my golf clubs in

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addition to steal in my car.I got the car back, we got
a safety checked, we got newkeys, like, you know, we're
fine. But the thing that mademe mad they stole the bag, which
didn't mean much except that in itwas my dad's old two iron. I
carried it around, you know,just kind of remember my dad. Right,
there's like a Bobby Jones nineteen fortywhatever, you know, I'd use
it occasionally, like up against thetree. So we still hope to recover

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that. But there's a video onthe local news, like a security monitor
where the criminals are using my golfclubs to try to break into a mobile
station like three forty in the morning. Ultimately, I think we're gonna get
like Andy Norris to break down theirswing or something like we're going to find
a way to you know, capitalizeoff this because I'm actually working on a

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project with SmartLess about golf, whichI hope one day happens. We're still
in the developmental stages. But yeah, I love getting out. I'm still
very average. If I shoot inthe eighties anything, wow, I'm thrilled.
Oh yeah, I shoot yeah,nineties, I'm okay. If it
gets high nineties, I'm sad.But yesterday was a forty two for nine

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holes and you know, bounced offa tree or two, but it actually
worked out. So I got newclubs from the good people at Tailor Made,
and I have to make three orfour videos exchange. But I'm this
isn't a paid performance. Like theclubs are amazing. Like when you get
new technology, it entirely changes howyou play. I don't know how the

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hell the old nineteen fifty golfers werereally good. They were using you know,
just hickory sticks or something, youknow, shaved off metal. I
don't know how they were as goodas they were, because when you use
the newest stuff, you feel different, You don't swing as hard. Everything
gets better. Hey, where canpeople find your movie or do we have

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to wait until the film festival?Can they watch it online? You cannot
do that. Well, actually,through this film festival, maybe you can.
I don't even know that answer.But we haven't released it because there's
music issues involved that we have toget cleared and all that. Yep.
But the hope is we have halfa chance to put it on a place

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called Fubo. They're like a disseminatorof sports channels, kind of like replacing
your cable for sports channels, andthey also put out some of their own
stuff. So we're kind of halfwayhome to having them be the folks that
help us release it, and hopefullyit's sort of a proof that this thing
is okay, and maybe somebody says, go make me two or three more.
Yeah. Well, I think it'sgoing to be good and I want

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confirmation of that, and I can'tgive you the confirmation until I actually see
the product. I'll screen it.Yeah, let's let's get that plan,
man, get that out to you. I'll send it to you on email.
Don't put it on Facebook? Done? How about Twitter? Is that
all right? Inst No, don'tdo that. Well, you know,
our friend Saul, we had thisproject. You and I bumped into each
other how many times during the collegeseason The Huskies, I think going to

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five different games. We were tryingto get a show off the ground,
taking off on the whole nil thingand calling it Maine imagine like this.
Yep, so far we have failedto get anybody's interested in that. But
I'm not done with that one either. That was so fun watching the Huskies
all year and you know, takingit over with the title game. It
was such an amazing season, noquestion, Kenny Maine. Great stuff.

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Best of luck with the film,and we'll talk to somebody. Appreciate it,
pal, thanks for having me me. Well, you got it.
Man. Kenny Mayne with us onthe radio show. He's kind of one
of those guys that you know,once the thing at ESPN comes or anything,
he's going to sit in his assand do nothing. You're sorely mistaken.
He cannot sit still. He's worsethan me with the ad D by
the way, so he's all overman. Brett Boone's gonna join us,
coming up at five
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