April 21, 2025 • 11 mins
ESPN’s Mina Kimes joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about the issues on Seattle’s offensive line for years, receivers who could help the Seahawks, if the 49ers are in the quarterback market, the interest in Shedeur Sanders, and the Steelers plans.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coming to you live from the Elliot Avenue studios of
Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R FM. This
is our weekly visit with ESPN's Mina Chimes, brought to
you by Bridge Physical Therapy and Wellness just off I
ninety and Mercer Island. Bridge is your independent go to
clinic for quality care for the whole family. Taylor to
(00:20):
you and your Goals cult today at two O six
four O two six three three nine to schedule an
appointment and to let Bridge Physical Therapy be your bridge
to wellness. Now with Mina Chimes, Here's SOFTI and Dick Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Big thanks to Bridge Physical Therapy on Mercer Island for
joining us UH for sponsoring this segment every week with
Mina Kimes normally by the way later in the week
on a Friday, but she'll be a little busy yes
with rounds two and if we're at the NFL draft, Mina,
are you going to Green Bay? And if you are,
are you lucky enough to get a hotel room in
Green Bay?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I am, and I am he if it's lucky though
to be spendingly No shade to Green Bay, but it's
not my favorite place to go to this time.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Of year.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, this time of the year. Look, I mean, it's
better to be there now than be there in mid December,
by the way, So that's true. Congratulation, That is true.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
And we're told it's going to be in the fifties
or so, although we also got a wind advisory. But yeah,
NFL Live my show is going to be online on
site for Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, which is very exciting. Yeah,
I can't wait. I mean, I do. I do want
to say. I do love Title Town. The experience is
very cool. I've been there before. Uh, it's just yeah,
it's a little cult. I'm a baby.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I mean, let's let's talk about John Schneider in the
in the offensive line, because it's it's always been well
known that he hasn't been great at getting offensive line.
But I think the barbs in the arrows here in
Seattle have been much more frequent this offseason than they
have been in the past. So do you think John
Schneider kind of feels the pressure this year to draft
an interior offensive lineman high and will do you think
(01:59):
he'll like secum to that pressure because it's greater than
it's ever been.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, I do. I think so I feel like I've
heard him say a few comments that it's a little
bit you know, like very I don't know, want to
say defensive, but like very cognizant of the criticism and
deserve really So, I mean, you guys, when we talked
about this last week, I mentioned that I thought, you know,
he deserves some credit for picking Charles Cross and Abe Lucas,
(02:26):
who's been good when he's healthy. But it's that interior.
It kind of feels like, I don't know, the curse
of the Bambino, the hurse of Mac Dunger, right, because
because really since then, it's just been such a struggle.
And I do think that the criticism has probably amplified
this offseason and headed the draft because they didn't do
anything right. And I know they've got their reasons, and
(02:47):
I know there's medicals and price tags and all of that,
but at the end of the day, you got the
players you got, and I don't feel like they should
be very comfortable with the ones they have on the interior.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Well, right now it's Lemea and Anthony Bradford along with
big olu Et center, and it looks like for today Mina,
it's big o'lu's job to lose it's center, right unless
something crazy happens. I thought he played a lot better
after he got bench for Connor Williams. Maybe that was
the wake up he needed. But honestly, how much better
should we expect the Seahawks offensive line to be on
(03:19):
Monday morning versus where they.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Are right now?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Hopefully a lot, but hopefully a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
We could just hang out and just see how long
it takes for the phone to come back. See, the
problem is, I never know if it's us or on
the other end, because with the Emperor Queen, we've lost
the internet here every now and then, Jackson, I assume
you can still hear us by the way you're in okay, good,
So it's not us. I mean that really is the
question for me, Dick, is how much damage can John
Schneider really do. He's got ten picks in the draft. Yeah,
he's got five in the top ninety two. A lot
(03:55):
of people that cover this stuff for a living say
this is a good year for interior offensive lineman. So
I'm not gonna lose my mind if they don't draft
one at number EIGHTEENCA there's plenty of opportunity down the
road to get one, but meet us back with us
and mean and just you know again, how much better
should we honestly expect John Schneider to make this offensive
line in three days?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, So, the way I see it is a lot
of it has to do with things that are out
of the CX controller or how the draft shakes that
before them, because I don't think with the exception of
the Bengals as maybe a possibility, it's likely that someone's
gonna go, you know, interior offensive line before then. However,
if one of I would say, four players tedor On McMillan,
(04:37):
Matthew Golden, Tyler, Warren verand likely or Colson Lovelin are there,
I think they would be tempted to go with the
pass catcher over one of the offensive and I wouldn't
be mad about that because those are really good players.
At eighteen, it's be really good value. But I do
think if those four players are gone, and it's very
likely that they will be, then it would be a
mistake for the Seas to pass on interior offensive line.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
How do you rank those pass catchers and and is
it different? Is your overall ranking different than it would
be if you're just specifically ranking them for the Seahawks,
knowing what the Seahawks have a wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
That's a good point. I think both McMillan and Golden
would complement the existing group. McMillan more of the X
traditional big body pass catcher, contested catch guy and then
Golden more of the speeds to the more deep but
you know, bothrepare well with Jackson Smith and Jig on
the slot and then between Warren Loveland. I kind of
(05:32):
think Loveland actually makes a little bit more sense for
the Clint Kubiak offense, and I bet they love him.
You know, he is more of your traditional plug and
play wide tight end and I think he would be
a fantastic pickup because he is also like a true
weapon as a pass catcher, So I think he would
be very useful for Seattle.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Mean at times with us courtesy a bridge physical therapy
on Mercer Island and Mina. I'm just going kind of
team by team, and not that you care what I'm
doing here, but I'm putting a check mark next to
teams that need quarterback and an X next to teams
that don't. And then I got to the Niners at
number eleven. Brock Purty's not signed yet, He's got one
more year left on his deal. If the Niners are
(06:11):
sitting there, I'm not saying that they take should do
at number eleven, But do they feel like they can
say no to a quarterback if there's one that they
like in this draft because they have brock Purty.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
If this was last year and we were talking about
the quarterbacks last year, I might say that it would
be a serious conversation. Assuming the Niner see it the
same way as I think a lot of people. He
has a lot of teams see it. I can't think
that they're gonna want to go for one of those
quarterbacks over Purty, even as expensive as he's going to be.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I just don't see how they get any better with it.
If they can't win the Super Bowl, which they couldn't
with him making three hundred thousand dollars, how are they
possibly going to win the super Bowl with him making
forty five to fifty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Jod gets a lot harder. And this is where, and
I know c X fans are loving, this is where
the Trey Lance trade starts to actually cause problems, right
because for forever I was like, Eh, whatever doesn't matter.
All these are an all star team and they got
the cheap quarterbacks. But suddenly all those all Star players
you can't really afford them anymore. You start losing talent,
(07:16):
and then you didn't have the draft picks to stock
up at some positions. I mean, Nights have a lot
of needs. That's really shocking to me going through the
team needs and seeing all the directions that you go
in in the draft. I would argue all three levels
of the defense they could augment in this one, as
well as the offensive line and tight end. So a
lot of needs on that team. They things got very different,
(07:37):
very quickly.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Well, I guess I'm just trying to figure out, guys,
and again meet to times with us from ESPN. She's
gonna be in Green Bay all week long obviously for
NFL Live on ESPN. So check her out on the Telly.
Which team would move up to potentially draft should Doure
and how far would like the Steelers, for example, go
to do it, because if we're getting to San Francisco,
(07:59):
then Dallas doesn't need a quarterback. Miami is not going
to draft a quarterback. The Colts just took Richardson. The
Falcons have Panics, the Cardinals have Murray, the Bengals have Burrow.
How far up do you think a team like a
Pittsburgh Steelers would go if they covet should do or
Sanders to get him?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Not far? First of all, I don't think they'd covet him.
I think they would take him, but there's just not
that sort of smoke around, and you know, maybe it
is them covering their intentions, but I just don't think
that there's going to be a need to trade. I
could be wrong, but you laid it out. If he
gets past the Saints, and I think.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'll get her back on hold, guys, right, yeah, I
get her back on hold.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I want to ask her about you realize that.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
This is going to give me an aneurysm right when
this happens, if you choose to well the way, it's
just kind of I'm starting to kind of snap here
a little bit with this phone thing. And it's not
just her, it's the Sas. The question happened the other day,
it happened again today, It's happened three or four times
the last week. Are we not paying our phone bill?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Well?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, somebody else you check on that, like, Caul, can
we call Comcast to make sure we're paying the phone
bill around here?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I checked it, we are, and she's back on.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Okay, all right me, and we're gonna give this one
more shot because your phone's broken up now a couple
of times. But you're saying that you don't think that
the Steelers really covet should door, and it sounds like,
because I was asking Hugh milling about an hour ago
or half hour ago, what the NFL thinks of this guy,
I'm trying to figure that out.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, I don't think that. Uh, let me put it
this way. I think after cam wore, no one is
as high on this quarterback class as us here certainly
right now. That doesn't mean they're not gonna take a
quarterback because frankly, they just need one so desperately in Pittsburgh.
And so I do think it twenty one, they'll consider
it seriously. But you know, like the same kind of
(09:49):
stuff was being said around Kenny Pickett, who was I
believed to pick twenty two. And that's gotta be kind
of haunting Contullas fans to think, oh, we're just taking
a guy we kind of like again and twenties and
I don't know, but I do think twenty one makes
sense for Shor Sanders, and I do, and I'm skeptical
of the idea that someone's gonna make a big jump
(10:09):
to get any of the quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I'm gonna ask you the question that kind of Dave
just threw out there about an hour ago. How can
the Pittsburgh Steelers pay DK Metcalf what they paid DK
Metcalf and have either Mason Rudolph or Skyler Thompson to him?
I throw him to him. I mean, I know Aaron
Rodgers is still out there, but who knows what he's
gonna do.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I don't know. I think they think that Aaron Rodgers
is eventually going to sign there. I do, And I
think they're gonna come out of this quarterback with the
draft part and me with a quarterback. But who that
quarterback is is an open question. I also would mention
Kirk Cousins as a possibility. I don't think he gets traded,
certainly not in the first round or early on. But
if they don't take watch the Steelers for Kirk Cousins.
(10:50):
If they don't take a quarterback in the first two rounds,
that to me, would be a very likely Kirk Cousins destination.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, what about George Pickens? Do you think he gets
moved this week?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
You know, when they did the DK trade, I thought
that might happen, just because I think their skills are
a little bit duplicative, and you know, Pickens obviously has
his ups and downs. By the way, I know X
fans used to complain about Metcalf at times. Oh boy,
George Higgins makes Metcalf look like a choir boy out there.
So uh, yeah, I don't think he gets moved, but
(11:21):
because just because there hasn't been enough smoke around it.
But it's definitely a possibility.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
The Seahawks got a visit from Will Johnson last week.
What do you think about a Johnson Witherspoon tandem.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I really like Will Johnson. You know, he's got great size,
great lengths. I think he can play both man's zone.
Be a good skiing fit for Mike McDonald. Obviously there's
a Michigan.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
All right, we'll go ahead, let her go. Uh we're
not well for three on this, so we'll let we'll
let me the Times go. Try to get that figured
out for for next time we have her on
Coming to you live from the Elliot Avenue studios of
Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R FM. This
is our weekly visit with ESPN's Mina Chimes, brought to
you by Bridge Physical Therapy and Wellness just off I
ninety and Mercer Island. Bridge is your independent go to
clinic for quality care for the whole family. Taylor to
(00:20):
you and your Goals cult today at two O six
four O two six three three nine to schedule an
appointment and to let Bridge Physical Therapy be your bridge
to wellness. Now with Mina Chimes, Here's SOFTI and Dick Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Big thanks to Bridge Physical Therapy on Mercer Island for
joining us UH for sponsoring this segment every week with
Mina Kimes normally by the way later in the week
on a Friday, but she'll be a little busy yes
with rounds two and if we're at the NFL draft, Mina,
are you going to Green Bay? And if you are,
are you lucky enough to get a hotel room in
Green Bay?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I am, and I am he if it's lucky though
to be spendingly No shade to Green Bay, but it's
not my favorite place to go to this time.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Of year.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, this time of the year. Look, I mean, it's
better to be there now than be there in mid December,
by the way, So that's true. Congratulation, That is true.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
And we're told it's going to be in the fifties
or so, although we also got a wind advisory. But yeah,
NFL Live my show is going to be online on
site for Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, which is very exciting. Yeah,
I can't wait. I mean, I do. I do want
to say. I do love Title Town. The experience is
very cool. I've been there before. Uh, it's just yeah,
it's a little cult. I'm a baby.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I mean, let's let's talk about John Schneider in the
in the offensive line, because it's it's always been well
known that he hasn't been great at getting offensive line.
But I think the barbs in the arrows here in
Seattle have been much more frequent this offseason than they
have been in the past. So do you think John
Schneider kind of feels the pressure this year to draft
an interior offensive lineman high and will do you think
(01:59):
he'll like secum to that pressure because it's greater than
it's ever been.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, I do. I think so I feel like I've
heard him say a few comments that it's a little
bit you know, like very I don't know, want to
say defensive, but like very cognizant of the criticism and
deserve really So, I mean, you guys, when we talked
about this last week, I mentioned that I thought, you know,
he deserves some credit for picking Charles Cross and Abe Lucas,
(02:26):
who's been good when he's healthy. But it's that interior.
It kind of feels like, I don't know, the curse
of the Bambino, the hurse of Mac Dunger, right, because
because really since then, it's just been such a struggle.
And I do think that the criticism has probably amplified
this offseason and headed the draft because they didn't do
anything right. And I know they've got their reasons, and
(02:47):
I know there's medicals and price tags and all of that,
but at the end of the day, you got the
players you got, and I don't feel like they should
be very comfortable with the ones they have on the interior.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Well, right now it's Lemea and Anthony Bradford along with
big olu Et center, and it looks like for today Mina,
it's big o'lu's job to lose it's center, right unless
something crazy happens. I thought he played a lot better
after he got bench for Connor Williams. Maybe that was
the wake up he needed. But honestly, how much better
should we expect the Seahawks offensive line to be on
(03:19):
Monday morning versus where they.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Are right now?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Hopefully a lot, but hopefully a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
We could just hang out and just see how long
it takes for the phone to come back. See, the
problem is, I never know if it's us or on
the other end, because with the Emperor Queen, we've lost
the internet here every now and then, Jackson, I assume
you can still hear us by the way you're in okay, good,
So it's not us. I mean that really is the
question for me, Dick, is how much damage can John
Schneider really do. He's got ten picks in the draft. Yeah,
he's got five in the top ninety two. A lot
(03:55):
of people that cover this stuff for a living say
this is a good year for interior offensive lineman. So
I'm not gonna lose my mind if they don't draft
one at number EIGHTEENCA there's plenty of opportunity down the
road to get one, but meet us back with us
and mean and just you know again, how much better
should we honestly expect John Schneider to make this offensive
line in three days?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, So, the way I see it is a lot
of it has to do with things that are out
of the CX controller or how the draft shakes that
before them, because I don't think with the exception of
the Bengals as maybe a possibility, it's likely that someone's
gonna go, you know, interior offensive line before then. However,
if one of I would say, four players tedor On McMillan,
(04:37):
Matthew Golden, Tyler, Warren verand likely or Colson Lovelin are there,
I think they would be tempted to go with the
pass catcher over one of the offensive and I wouldn't
be mad about that because those are really good players.
At eighteen, it's be really good value. But I do
think if those four players are gone, and it's very
likely that they will be, then it would be a
mistake for the Seas to pass on interior offensive line.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
How do you rank those pass catchers and and is
it different? Is your overall ranking different than it would
be if you're just specifically ranking them for the Seahawks,
knowing what the Seahawks have a wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
That's a good point. I think both McMillan and Golden
would complement the existing group. McMillan more of the X
traditional big body pass catcher, contested catch guy and then
Golden more of the speeds to the more deep but
you know, bothrepare well with Jackson Smith and Jig on
the slot and then between Warren Loveland. I kind of
(05:32):
think Loveland actually makes a little bit more sense for
the Clint Kubiak offense, and I bet they love him.
You know, he is more of your traditional plug and
play wide tight end and I think he would be
a fantastic pickup because he is also like a true
weapon as a pass catcher, So I think he would
be very useful for Seattle.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Mean at times with us courtesy a bridge physical therapy
on Mercer Island and Mina. I'm just going kind of
team by team, and not that you care what I'm
doing here, but I'm putting a check mark next to
teams that need quarterback and an X next to teams
that don't. And then I got to the Niners at
number eleven. Brock Purty's not signed yet, He's got one
more year left on his deal. If the Niners are
(06:11):
sitting there, I'm not saying that they take should do
at number eleven, But do they feel like they can
say no to a quarterback if there's one that they
like in this draft because they have brock Purty.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
If this was last year and we were talking about
the quarterbacks last year, I might say that it would
be a serious conversation. Assuming the Niner see it the
same way as I think a lot of people. He
has a lot of teams see it. I can't think
that they're gonna want to go for one of those
quarterbacks over Purty, even as expensive as he's going to be.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I just don't see how they get any better with it.
If they can't win the Super Bowl, which they couldn't
with him making three hundred thousand dollars, how are they
possibly going to win the super Bowl with him making
forty five to fifty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Jod gets a lot harder. And this is where, and
I know c X fans are loving, this is where
the Trey Lance trade starts to actually cause problems, right
because for forever I was like, Eh, whatever doesn't matter.
All these are an all star team and they got
the cheap quarterbacks. But suddenly all those all Star players
you can't really afford them anymore. You start losing talent,
(07:16):
and then you didn't have the draft picks to stock
up at some positions. I mean, Nights have a lot
of needs. That's really shocking to me going through the
team needs and seeing all the directions that you go
in in the draft. I would argue all three levels
of the defense they could augment in this one, as
well as the offensive line and tight end. So a
lot of needs on that team. They things got very different,
(07:37):
very quickly.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Well, I guess I'm just trying to figure out, guys,
and again meet to times with us from ESPN. She's
gonna be in Green Bay all week long obviously for
NFL Live on ESPN. So check her out on the Telly.
Which team would move up to potentially draft should Doure
and how far would like the Steelers, for example, go
to do it, because if we're getting to San Francisco,
(07:59):
then Dallas doesn't need a quarterback. Miami is not going
to draft a quarterback. The Colts just took Richardson. The
Falcons have Panics, the Cardinals have Murray, the Bengals have Burrow.
How far up do you think a team like a
Pittsburgh Steelers would go if they covet should do or
Sanders to get him?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Not far? First of all, I don't think they'd covet him.
I think they would take him, but there's just not
that sort of smoke around, and you know, maybe it
is them covering their intentions, but I just don't think
that there's going to be a need to trade. I
could be wrong, but you laid it out. If he
gets past the Saints, and I think.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'll get her back on hold, guys, right, yeah, I
get her back on hold.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I want to ask her about you realize that.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
This is going to give me an aneurysm right when
this happens, if you choose to well the way, it's
just kind of I'm starting to kind of snap here
a little bit with this phone thing. And it's not
just her, it's the Sas. The question happened the other day,
it happened again today, It's happened three or four times
the last week. Are we not paying our phone bill?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Well?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, somebody else you check on that, like, Caul, can
we call Comcast to make sure we're paying the phone
bill around here?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I checked it, we are, and she's back on.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Okay, all right me, and we're gonna give this one
more shot because your phone's broken up now a couple
of times. But you're saying that you don't think that
the Steelers really covet should door, and it sounds like,
because I was asking Hugh milling about an hour ago
or half hour ago, what the NFL thinks of this guy,
I'm trying to figure that out.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, I don't think that. Uh, let me put it
this way. I think after cam wore, no one is
as high on this quarterback class as us here certainly
right now. That doesn't mean they're not gonna take a
quarterback because frankly, they just need one so desperately in Pittsburgh.
And so I do think it twenty one, they'll consider
it seriously. But you know, like the same kind of
(09:49):
stuff was being said around Kenny Pickett, who was I
believed to pick twenty two. And that's gotta be kind
of haunting Contullas fans to think, oh, we're just taking
a guy we kind of like again and twenties and
I don't know, but I do think twenty one makes
sense for Shor Sanders, and I do, and I'm skeptical
of the idea that someone's gonna make a big jump
(10:09):
to get any of the quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I'm gonna ask you the question that kind of Dave
just threw out there about an hour ago. How can
the Pittsburgh Steelers pay DK Metcalf what they paid DK
Metcalf and have either Mason Rudolph or Skyler Thompson to him?
I throw him to him. I mean, I know Aaron
Rodgers is still out there, but who knows what he's
gonna do.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I don't know. I think they think that Aaron Rodgers
is eventually going to sign there. I do, And I
think they're gonna come out of this quarterback with the
draft part and me with a quarterback. But who that
quarterback is is an open question. I also would mention
Kirk Cousins as a possibility. I don't think he gets traded,
certainly not in the first round or early on. But
if they don't take watch the Steelers for Kirk Cousins.
(10:50):
If they don't take a quarterback in the first two rounds,
that to me, would be a very likely Kirk Cousins destination.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, what about George Pickens? Do you think he gets
moved this week?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
You know, when they did the DK trade, I thought
that might happen, just because I think their skills are
a little bit duplicative, and you know, Pickens obviously has
his ups and downs. By the way, I know X
fans used to complain about Metcalf at times. Oh boy,
George Higgins makes Metcalf look like a choir boy out there.
So uh, yeah, I don't think he gets moved, but
(11:21):
because just because there hasn't been enough smoke around it.
But it's definitely a possibility.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
The Seahawks got a visit from Will Johnson last week.
What do you think about a Johnson Witherspoon tandem.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I really like Will Johnson. You know, he's got great size,
great lengths. I think he can play both man's zone.
Be a good skiing fit for Mike McDonald. Obviously there's
a Michigan.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
All right, we'll go ahead, let her go. Uh we're
not well for three on this, so we'll let we'll
let me the Times go. Try to get that figured
out for for next time we have her on
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