Furness Show 3-26: Kingdome Memories, Joe Sheehan, Greg Cosell.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, let's I need you guys today.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Listen up.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
You got a job. Listeners. I've got two jobs for
you today. Job, two jobs today, two jobs.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
All right?

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Well, first, is this so every year opening day since
I've been here that we've been doing stuff, especially since
they opened Jimmy's on First. I think they opened Jimmy's
on First the second year I was here. I'll just
go check that out. I think Jimmy's on First opened
in two thousand and eight. I do believe. I'm gonna
go out to ask who's in charge of that. That's Tush,

(00:31):
I'll go ask him. But Jimmy's on First when the
Silver Cloud opened up, kind of became our home away
from home down in Soda gave us a spot. We
you know, we're not allowed in T Mobile, we're not
allowed inside Looman as far as the radio station is concerned.
But we found a spot and it's Jimmy's on First.
And I'll never forget I was listen to Mitch do
the morning show the day that it opened. We had
I think I was. I might have still been doing

(00:52):
the night show. I'm not sure, but I remember listening
to It's like, man, this sounds like a party already
down there, And that was the first show we ever
did there. The day that opened it was like opening
day of that year. It might have been when did
you guys start a radio station?

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Two thousand and nine?

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Okay, so I think it was the year before that
we were down there at Jimmy's. But anyway, because I
remember looking across going on, I'd be cool to be
over there, but those guys are freezing or inside, we're
so jealous of you. We we have a bathroom, it's warm,
and we're eating. Anyway, Jimmy's we were not ever since
they open it up. We do shows opening day and
then big Seahawk games. It's a primetime seaht game shows

(01:25):
are down there. We've done some fun things over the years.
I mean back in the day when Nelly was here,
Jeff Nelson was here doing Baseball's Best Postgame Show. Then
later I mean that was always a Gong show. Really
became a Gong show with Bucky when he joined that group.
I mean, it's we had so much fun down there

(01:45):
and have over the years. But opening day is always special.
Monday night football, Thursday night football, those are fun, but
there's something about opening day and it brings out I think,
for the most part, hopefully it brings out a sense
of of optimism, hope, excitement, mostly positive vibes. Now they

(02:07):
could be gone by the second inning of game one
of game one of one sixty two, but at least
they're there before they throw the first pitch. So we've
done this in the past, but I want to do
it a day early because I want to give Jess
some time to go home, pour yourself a cocktail maybe,
and then you know, jump on the computer and put
some stuff together.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Did you bring me a bottle of something which.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
I know I haven't drank wine in a while, and I.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Don't know if that would be good for me to
be a good You like the brown water, don't you.
I do like brown water. I just don't keep it
at home because that's how much I like it.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Okay, whatever, you get home tonight and want to put
this together. Here's here's where, Here's where I.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Want somewhere I want.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
What I want to do is this. I want. I
want our listeners. If I can, I'm going to ask
you guys for a favor, because all we'll all kind
of talk about this tomorrow but opening day and the
start of baseball season is special and means a lot
to so many of us. You know, I bring it
up all the time. I grew up in Seattle, grew
up watching the Mariners from day one, but then left,

(03:09):
worked in Tri Cities, worked in Salt Lake City, worked
in Portland, so three non major league markets, and then
came back here in two thousand and six, back to
a place. And I always thought, man, baseball is not
my first favorite sport, but the Mariners are one of
my favorite teams, if that makes sense. Absolutely, Like I'm
not going to watch a Braves Reds game necessarily randomly.

(03:31):
I'll watch the Jets and the Capitols play hockey. I'll
watch random college basketball or college football games, but if
the Mariners are on, I watch. I've always been a
Mariners fan, and the start of baseball season is always special.
So here's what I'm asking for you guys to do today,
and hopefully we can get some good things and put

(03:51):
them together and maybe not, and that might be telling
as well. To be honest with you, I mean, this
is an interesting exercise we're going to conduct here. The
exercise is really simple. Go to the iHeartRadio app. Go
to the red little red microphone, the talkbacks. We call
it voice text wherever you want to call it, but
the red microphone, and you speak for thirty seconds. What
does the start of baseball season mean to you? What

(04:13):
is Opening Day mean to you? Do you have special
memories and share them to me? The words again that
come to mind are optimism, hope, excitement. Maybe you're just
looking ahead to the spring in the summer months, especially
with whatever the hell we got coming in today weatherwise.
I mean, it's but what is it about Opening Day
that's special? You know? For me? My daughter and her

(04:34):
boyfriend go. They use our tickets, and this will be
like the fourth or fifth year in a row they've gone.
They love it. It's a here, it's kind of become
a thing bigger than you. Yes, one hundred percent, but
they you know, my son and my wife went a
couple of times when he was still in school. He
let my wife let him get out and they'd go, yeah.

(04:54):
So it's just it's it's I think it's a time
to share with family, friends, what have you maybe your
mom and dad, ad father's mom, sister, whatever, it might be.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Random question for you, Yes, what where do you stand
on the opening day should be a day game.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
I'll get to that. Okay, the but but I want
you guys, if you can drop us a voice text,
tell us why, and Jesse will put those together. We're
gonna run them on the show tomorrow from Jimmy's on first.
I don't want to have her down there and the
Gong show that is Jimmy's on first, trying to put
audio together, and he's doing that here when all like
like eighteen things and complaining about not being on. Jimmy,

(05:29):
you'll be complained about not being there, but you'll also
have like eighteen things going on on. Jason coming in
is gonna come on? Okay? He gets so mad when
we do that. Why'd you do that?

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Now?

Speaker 1 (05:43):
He's gonna be all pissed.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Off for us.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
We have the music station out in the pit so
he won't hear it. God, I know, I think we're
alone now. God, I thought I was back in high school.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Man.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
The station is that I did that was like it
was eighties music that was.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
I thought it was an old school. I thought it
was in a tolo with holy names. Academy and Oday
High School, Chicago, Forest Ridge we like forest Ridge better.
They were first round draft picks up there on the
hill anyway. Yeah, like, like, what what the hell is
playing out there that Tiffany I think was playing or something?

Speaker 3 (06:16):
It was all eighties it was.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Now we digress, we do, Okay, we get off, we
get off tracks, voice, text, voice, wherever you want to calm.
I want to know why Opening Day is special to you?

Speaker 3 (06:29):
All right, really good over the years.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, so I want to hear those today. Please do that. Well,
we'll keep reminding you throughout the day, but send those
in and Jess, we'll get to those and we'll play
them tomorrow. We're gonna play the Yeah, we're gonna play
the tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
On the show midnight.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
When we're gonna play we don't know, because tomorrow's show
is wait for it, radio term here at Fluid Fluid
Show remain flex may or may not have guests tomorrow.
We're not sure. We don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
We do know that Nathan and Chris will join us
at some point.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
They'll join us probably, and we think, you know her,
he's gonna join us our weekly visit with him. Okay,
So that's number one, number two on the list of
what I need from you guys today because and a
new guy used this earlier, but I want to do
the same thing. King Noo memories. Oh you know it's
this is the twenty fifth anniversary when it imploded. Thanks

(07:18):
for coming your memories of the Kingdom, and obviously for
you know, you got to be a little bit older
for those it's I mean, think about it's been gone
for twenty five years. So unless you're thirty four, thirty
five or older, you probably don't have any Kingdom memories zero, right,
But if you have kingdo memories, share those. I it
was I mentioned this to Mark is the Kingdome was

(07:40):
a dump, but it was our dump, you know, And
so like you can you can pick on your own
brother or sister, but you can't let anybody else do it.
That's kind of what the Kingdome was. It just doesn't
work that way. So share your memories, your favorite memory,
what it meant to you, kind of We're getting a
little nostalogic today on the show as well. All right,
Joe she Ian's gonna join us coming up in just

(08:02):
a few minutes. I won't go the whole segment with Joe,
I don't think, because I want to answer Andrew's question.
I think it's a great question. But we'll get to
that coming up as well. This afternoon, we will sprinkle
some football in. It's Wednesday, what does that mean. Our
friend Greg Cosell joined us at two o'clock from NFL Films,
the ESPN Matchup Show. We're gonna talk offensive linement with

(08:22):
Greg today and the question I will have for him,
what does the tape say?

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Greg?

Speaker 1 (08:29):
What does the tape say? La Maya Ola, Timmy Bradford,
Christian Haynes. Do any of those guys fit the new
offensive scheme as opposed to just thinking you have to
go out and find three new starters on the draft
or whatever's left on the free agent market. So ask
him about that. But we'll get the best fits for
the new Kubiak scheme for your offensive lineman. Nobody does

(08:51):
it better than our boy Greg Cosell. As far as
what the film says, he's mister film, mister tape study.
So we'll do that. We'll do that coming up at
two o'clock. Joe Shean, the Return of Joe she and
Weekly Visit. We'll see what he's all fired up about today.
In the world of baseball, that's next.

Speaker 6 (09:09):
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Speaker 4 (09:22):
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Speaker 1 (09:26):
The eve of Opening Day twenty and twenty five, baseball
is upon us. I hear the music. I know baseball's here.
There's all workout this afternoon. Jess is gonna go down
and cover. I will be there, godspeed, Thank.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
You the.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
We're excited. I'm excited about this. This was something I
was hoping would happen. I wasn't sure for a while.
We were kind of going back and forth. These are
the things I leave to Jessman McIntyre to figure out. Yeah,
best at it and people and people like her more
than they like me, or you anders or you absolutely

(10:07):
are you? So what happens? Her people called this guy's people,
which is him, and we got it done. He's back
for another year. I love, I have loved this segment.
I love talking baseball with this guy. Joe She and
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Shean Hello, sir.

Speaker 7 (10:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (10:49):
The horse's head in my bed was certainly an interesting
negotiating exactly by Judge.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
I have my methods, Joe, Okay, call me back every
once in a while.

Speaker 8 (11:00):
To be that. I'm not sure any of these children
have seen the seen the Godfather, so maybe that was a.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Little I think yes, probably have. Yeah, they all have
a look at that. Yeah, and that was it. It
was like we sometimes she has to use drastic measures, Joe,
but we've got you back. I'm excited. Let me start.
I can't wait to tell you, guys what some of
the predictions Joe has. One of those, one of those
for an individual, a ward meriton. Fans are gonna like

(11:25):
a lot here in a second. But before I get
to that, for people new to the show, Joshian Newsletter,
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Speaker 8 (11:34):
Yeah, I'm just some random dude who makes Mets jokes
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(11:57):
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Out, sore and all. I know that a lot of
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on again the last couple of years, and we're excited
to have you on again this year. And I'm glad
you agreed to do it. I know you got a
lot of people pulling in different directions, but we appreciate
it out here in Seattle. No mirror fans appreciate it.

(13:06):
And I will just add that, yes, Joe is a
stat head, and that there are a lot of stats,
but you do a really really good job of explaining
how those things have relevance to the average fan and
context and storytelling, and I appreciate that. One of those
stories that you're rote, Sir, is titled eating a Whole Hawk,
And this one got to me because and I'll let

(13:28):
you kind of discuss it, and I remember it's funny
because you had a line in there about you know,
you're really into the regular season the postseason comes, and
we even talked about that last year. When the postseason came.
Joe's like, eh, yeah, postseasons here, but you know, let's
let's the regular seasons where it's at, because you, like me,
grew up watching just four teams make the playoffs and
things have changed over the years. So tell me why
the postseason in your mind isn't the be all to

(13:50):
end all.

Speaker 8 (13:51):
Well, just again, it's baseball is about the every day.
It's about six months of storylines. It's there for you
seven pm or four pm for you guys every single time,
you know, fifteen games a day. And that's how I
grew up experiencing the game. Now, we couldn't watch as
many games back then, but you'd watch the nightly you know,
the Yankees and Mets at night, and you get up
and read the box scores and be frustrated because of
the West Coast games run in the newspaper. Kids, ask

(14:13):
your parents. It's about getting into the nuance or on
Sundays reading like the Batting Average and seeing all these
names from Toronto and Seattle that you've never heard of.

Speaker 7 (14:23):
That's how you came to the game. It's how you
learned it.

Speaker 8 (14:25):
And one of the things that's happened now is there
is this focus now even in my own work in well,
who's gonna make the playoffs, who's gonna trade for?

Speaker 7 (14:33):
What the deadline to help them make the playoffs?

Speaker 8 (14:35):
Who's gonna dump with the deadline to help them make
the playoffs in twenty twenty eight And I want to
kind of pull back from that a little bit and
appreciate the day to day a little bit more.

Speaker 7 (14:44):
Obviously, you're gonna cover the races, that's what we do.

Speaker 8 (14:47):
It's the job, but to also appreciate that a Marlins
Nationals game at four o'clock on a getaway Thursday in
May also has a lot of fun there. There's always something,
whether you go to the ballpark and there's a favorite
food you like, or you know you have a history
at this ballparker there's a player on a certain team
you love, I want to make sure that I'm covering
those aspects of it as much as I'm covering the

(15:08):
top line headlines.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Joe, you know, I like what you're saying. And I
used to play roch history baseball for a lot of years,
you know, the where you bid on guys and all that,
and it was it was a ton of fun. And
so like in every day the box score, we would
have to look in the USA Today or the Seattle
Times or the Seattle Post Intelligencer. So I can definitely
relate to that. Nowadays it's just to the draw. Just
it's in your fingertips, on your phone wherever you want it,

(15:30):
those numbers. But there is something about that. But one
of the things I liked about back then is I
felt like whatever team came in and played in the
Kingdome and made the Kingdome rest in peace today. Joe,
by the way, it's twenty fifth anniversary of the Kingdome
being imploded, so we could finish building Luomenfield and Safeco
Field slash tea mobile park. But I knew everybody came

(15:52):
coming in. I think Baseball maybe I'm wrong here. I
feel like baseball used to do a better job or
maybe the world was different of promoting its players and
its stars. I don't know if that's still the case. Yeah. Sure,
we know who Otani is, and you know, we know
Aaron Judge from some of the big market teams. But
there's a lot of small market players, guys that you

(16:14):
and I all talk about throughout the year. We don't
hear about those guys as much. Do you think baseball
needs to do a better job of promoting its players?
So a Thursday game with the Marlins and the Cardinals
does have more relevance.

Speaker 8 (16:26):
Well, baseball, we're thirty some odd years, forty some odd
years in the psych Baseball doesn't have the presence on
the national stage that it used to. It turned on
daytime coverage on ESPN today and they'll be talking about
the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Probably they are, honest to god, they are. I got
it up right now. They just had. They were just
doing that.

Speaker 8 (16:44):
Yeah, one of the odds, that's just the nature of
where we are as sports media. Baseball almost shows him
become more not localized. I go back to nineteen ninety
when MLB went from a weekly game of the week
on Nbcity, and even prior to that, they'd have a
game of the week at night on ABC, there was
Monday Night Baseball to a package with CBS that only

(17:05):
was a half season package.

Speaker 7 (17:07):
Almost MLB took the money from.

Speaker 8 (17:09):
CBS but cut its own visibility, and that led to
the not having a TV deal basically in ninety four
ninety five, and then everything that's happened since to the
point now where ESPN, which televised at first six games
a week back in the late eighty early nineties, now
has the Sunday night game and next year won't have
any games at all. So it's not just baseball making

(17:30):
bad choices, it's the media environment and the sports media
environment around it changing. We can sit here and debate,
you know, which came first check out of the egg.
But I do think baseball is to blame. I think
baseball spent continues to spend a lot of time abusing
its own product. You never hear the NFL say things
about the players that MLB teams, owners, commissioners.

Speaker 7 (17:53):
Will say about the players.

Speaker 8 (17:55):
You don't see the NFL having a two decade, two
decade long discussion about who cheated in the nineteen nineties.
Baseball has done this to itself to a certain point
in the interest of gaining an upper hand in labor bouts,
the NFL and NBA simply broke their unions. So to
some extent, there's that the union element too, is part
of it. I think that baseball is trying very hard

(18:16):
to reverse some of that. It just may not be possible.
I mean there's when when ESPN and ESPN dropped MLB basically,
and MLB made it sound like it was a beautchual decision,
and there was a lot of well, you know, who
needs ESPN anymore? You know what you do because we
can dismiss ESPN because the ESPN has covered baseball that much.
But ESPN is on every hotel room, every hotel lobby,

(18:38):
every airport in the country.

Speaker 7 (18:39):
ESPN defines the sports conversation in America.

Speaker 8 (18:43):
So the idea that MLB doesn't need to be on
ESPN is ridiculous. You want to create a situation where
MLB is on ESPN more, where those where Tony and
Michael Wilbon are talking about baseball, where baseball is on, Well, first,
Pike's going off their you know what I mean, where.

Speaker 7 (19:00):
Baseball is on.

Speaker 8 (19:01):
I mean the flip side of that is that and
I've talked about this before. I know, I'm a grambling
a bit baseball issues. Sports generalists, the guys who write
three times a week in your paper, the guys who
go on television, they used to have to do baseball.

Speaker 7 (19:14):
Baseball was the coin.

Speaker 8 (19:16):
Of the realm, and then the other sports circled around that.
And that's no longer the case.

Speaker 7 (19:20):
When you hear I'll.

Speaker 8 (19:22):
Use his name, Stephen A.

Speaker 7 (19:23):
Smith or somebody like.

Speaker 8 (19:24):
College, the top names in sports media now they don't
know anything about baseball.

Speaker 7 (19:28):
I mean that literally, they don't know anything about baseball.

Speaker 8 (19:31):
So you have this situation now where either you have
no coverage of baseball, but you've got really dumb coverage
of baseball because the NFL and NBA drive everything now.
So again, it's this interrelated problem that's been going on
for you know.

Speaker 7 (19:44):
A long time. Now. That's very hard to just say
we'll do this one thing and fix it. You can't.

Speaker 8 (19:48):
And maybe we have to accept the fact that baseball
is going to be a distant number two to the
NFL forever and that's just the way it's going to be.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Well, and I think the you know, I worked for
the local hockey team for the cracking out here. And
you know, the NHL learned that a few years ago.
They got out of the ESPN business. And what they
do they got back into the ESPN business. Yeah, they're
not maybe doing it. It's not not in the A
block in Sports Center. But like you said, if you
go to the airport, you go to any bar in America,
you go to any hotel in America. Oh hey, there

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you go. Look it's the Capitals in the Winnipeg Jets
are playing, you know, like it's on ESPN, and it's
it's exposure and more exposure is better than no exposure.
Run with you. It's a bad decision all the way around.
It's and it's unfortunate. Let's talk about on field product
Joshi and joins Joshian Newsletter. Speaking of which, and I'm
going to get to the other awards in a second.
I want to get it fought on you from the

(20:38):
al West. But we're just talking about, you know, exposure.
How much will we see your pick for the AlSi
Young Award winner this year?

Speaker 7 (20:50):
I gotta remember who that is.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
I'll give you a hit. Kansas City Royals.

Speaker 7 (20:55):
Oh right, busy week for.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Me, No problem, no problem.

Speaker 8 (21:00):
Yeah again, Reagan's is not somebody who's going to have
a lot of national covers. There is no network coverage.
There is an an ESPN Game of the Week on
Sunday nights, and the Royals aren't going to be on
that very often. So you're talking about the MLB network,
which has, let's face it, guys, just very little penetration.
And then you know, he'll be on regionally, or he'll
be on He'll be on in New York when they
played the Yankees if he pitches in that series.

Speaker 7 (21:21):
So no, I don't think he's.

Speaker 8 (21:23):
Going to get a ton of exposure, certainly not to
the extent that Yankee stars and Dodger stars, because look,
I don't love that ESPN only shows the same six
or seven teams, but the ratings reflect the ratings feed
that back to them. When they show Yankees Red Sox games,
they do much better than they do when they show Brewers, Mariners, James.
There's just no way around that. So but yeah, I
don't know if Reagan is going to be on TV

(21:44):
all that much, but he is going to be on
the mound that he's going to be very good. He
was a top five.

Speaker 7 (21:48):
Pitcher in the Marklebegue.

Speaker 8 (21:49):
Last year, the Royals traded for him, got him for
an oldest chat and the end of the season deal
two years ago, and he wasn't this kind of prospect
with the Rangers, but he was coming back, picked up
the vloss and there was.

Speaker 7 (22:01):
A pitch man's change any game.

Speaker 9 (22:02):
Now, he's basically one of the best pictures in baseball.
Last year he has to finish behind Seth Lugo and
the Say Young voting, but I think he passes Lugo
this year. Power arm left handed has established snaket for
a full season, and he's far enough from his last
injury that.

Speaker 8 (22:16):
He's kind of in the hontingmoon phase where you don't worry.

Speaker 7 (22:18):
About him getting hurt. So it's him, it's Schooble, it's
character say three left.

Speaker 8 (22:22):
He's at the top of the American League.

Speaker 7 (22:23):
I think Vegas ends up being that.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
I'm going on so matter.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Fans are all mad because it's not one of their
guys like Logan Gilbert or George Kirby if he's healthy,
or Bryce Miller.

Speaker 7 (22:32):
I picked Kirby last year. I picked Kirby last year.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Okay, see there you go.

Speaker 7 (22:36):
Can't be mad at me.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
But they won't be mad when I say that your
pick for the AL MVP is a guy playing center
field for the Mariners. That means you expect him not
to just take the first three months off of the
season at the plate like he has the last couple
of years.

Speaker 8 (22:48):
It's really been frustrating, right because the second hasn't been
so much better than his first half. With Julio Rodriguez
now twenty four years old, complete games still, I mean,
he just does everything you want a guy to do
on the baseball field, plus ranging center, plus R plus
feed on the basis plus power. You know, the contact
rate isn't perfect, but for today's game, it's not unreasonable.
And he draws a few walks. I mean he is.

(23:08):
And again I think we talked about this like we
expect guys now to come on like Trout or Sota,
where they're just MVPs out of the gate, and Julio
Robriguez is one of the fifteen wins of his first
three seasons of six y four.

Speaker 7 (23:20):
I think this is what it looks like a war.

Speaker 8 (23:22):
He's just been a great player and because he didn't
have that jump at age twenty three, I I beat
him up a lot for you kind of look at
the numbers.

Speaker 7 (23:31):
Like where's coming from, because you didn't really see.

Speaker 8 (23:33):
Any change in his game.

Speaker 7 (23:34):
Just everything was a little bit off. I think he
gets all that back at more of this year. I
think you're talking.

Speaker 8 (23:39):
About a plus defensive centerfielder who is going to be
one of the twelve best hitters in the league. And
he's gonna be a plus on the basis for you se. Yeah,
I've got him as MVP again. It's a deep field
in the ale. There are a lot of guys who
could be in this mix, but Rodriguez Young has an
established level. It has some upside. I think he ends
up winning it this year and he helps drive the

(24:00):
Mariners into the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
By the way, that also would be a big old
payday for Julio as well. Like his the way his
contract is structured as like top five, MVP voting right,
top ten, top five and wins one, he actually gets
some money too, like he gets a lot. Yeah, it
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Speaker 3 (24:31):
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Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yes, we love them for bringing us Joe she in
this year. All right. I don't want to dwell on
something we've just we'll get to that if it warrants
during the season. The lack of movement for the Mariners
in the offseason. You haven't picked as a wildcard team.
Let me just ask you this. I got about thre
or four minutes left in the segment, Joe. Because I
think it's we do this in the NFL too. I
think it's most important sometimes to know who your neighbors are.

(24:53):
We do that in the NFC West with the forty
nine Ers, the Rams, and the Cardinals. Tell us who
the Mariner's neighbors are. How does the American League West
stack up this year? Because I've heard too, literally two
very different things. One AL West is kind of down,
it's wide open, there's it's not maybe that good. You
can maybe get in with eighty five eighty six wins.
I've also heard, hey, don't sleep on the Rangers.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Don't.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Don't sleep on them, you know, don't sleep on Houston.
So how does Joe Shean see the Al West stacking up?

Speaker 7 (25:24):
Well, all of that is true.

Speaker 8 (25:26):
These are teams that may not get three, teams that
may not get to ninety wins. But in fact, I
don't have a single American League team getting to ninety wins.
I believe by the Rangers at eighty nine, the Mariners
at eighty seven, and the Astros in eighty three. And
the Astros have really fallen off. I mean, you can't
take a team seriously when it trades away Kyle Tucker,
you just can't. I know, they got Paritas, they got
Hayden with Sesky, they got the current flavor of the month,

(25:48):
Cam Smith, who's going to break camp with them after
being drafted last year. It's gonna play some right field
for them. I just don't like anything they've done. And
I think the pitching's fine, but the offense is going
to be really problematic for them.

Speaker 7 (25:58):
So they we've kind of.

Speaker 8 (25:59):
Seen the end of the Astro's dynasty.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
All right, Hey, hold the witch is dead, all right?

Speaker 8 (26:06):
Continue always always kiss up to the locals.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
I know that I do, don't you play.

Speaker 8 (26:15):
I was telling Hibou, the Astro is gonna win the
World Series down in Texas stand to day.

Speaker 7 (26:18):
So it works out the Rangers, the Rangers.

Speaker 8 (26:22):
Though. The Rangers, you know, they went out and got
John Peterson and Jake Berger. I mean, this is a
team that really struggled to hit for power last year,
and those are two guys who are going to probably
platoon ish Peterson, Ole Patou and Bergo play a little
bit more than that, but they could combine for fifty homers.
They combined for a five un sudden that's gonna help
them a little bit. Health is an issue why at
Langford this time last year, Evon Carter didn't even make

(26:43):
the team in a bit of a surprise, but they
expect a better year to Adola Scarcia qussure for them
is a pitching Is this the year Jacob deGrom is
healthy enough to give you twenty five to twenty six
starts in an r into the playoffs? Remember they saw
him two years ago. He's made a total of nine
starts for them. Now they've got to get him on
the mount every day. They resigned Nathaniavaldi, which helps them
a lot. Two rookie pitchers and Kamar Rocker and Jack

(27:05):
Lighter al Lighters Tip. I do think the pitching has
upside that hasn't had in recent years, and we'll figure
out the bullpen. The one thing about the bullpen, the
individual names don't really impress you. Let me give you
the day that matters, Bruce Bochie. You look at Bruce
Bochi's entire track record San Francisco, San Diego and now Texas.
He's always gotten more out of his relievers than you

(27:26):
expected from the names on the baseball cards. So I
put all that together. I've got the Rangers edging out
the Marriagers in the West. But you look at the
eleven they are basically eleven contenders in the American League.
None of them are all that good. None of them
are gonna somebody will eventually get to ninety win steps
away the MathWorks, but I don't have any of them
winning ninety games, and I think those eleven teams might

(27:46):
end up separated by only maybe fourteen to fifteen games
on the standards and by production is huge pile across
baseball in the eighties, So we're gonna see outside of
the Al West.

Speaker 7 (27:58):
I think some really entertaining.

Speaker 8 (28:01):
If not great races, because again it's teams that are good,
but not great, teams that are flawed. And I think
the American League really reflects that. Now the top end
of the American League, which for so long was the Astros,
was the Yankees, you know, was the Red Sox. These
teams that were raising the bar have all collectively basically
lowered the bar.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
So it's AO West Seattle, Texas, maybe maybe Houston, but
they're kind of a distant three. And then we won't
worry about the other two teams from California, one of
which we don't even know where's located anymore.

Speaker 8 (28:32):
The Alameda County of Las Vegas, scrament It's such a joke.

Speaker 7 (28:39):
I mean, I'll be beating up for sure enough. We
don't have to do that today.

Speaker 8 (28:41):
But this is a joke that Manford eventually he wants
his legacy to the expansion, and all the rules changes
and the as and raises are gonna end up as
his legs.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
That's uh. That usually gets commissioners fired, all right, tell people,
and we're looking forward to this, Joe, in all sincerity,
I enjoy the conversation. I hope you like talking to
us out here. In Seattle's well, it's always fun. I
always feel smarter after talking to you. Let me let
me one more time. Tell people how they can subscribe.
If you're a baseball fan, you need to be checking
this out. How can they do so?

Speaker 8 (29:10):
Yeah, just told me it was somebody else this year,
So I probably got.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Great super that's fine.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Decentive horse heads, you know the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Whatever it takes, Joe, I just tell her, whatever it takes,
make it happen.

Speaker 7 (29:23):
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Thanks.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
That is Joshi and Joshian Newsletter, Seema and her fans.
Julio is the MVP. AM's getting into the playoffs. All good.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
I love the Julio MVP because me and Soft you
have a little little oh you got some skin in well?

Speaker 1 (29:55):
I love Joe honestly. Like I I I always say
with our show, someone's asking me the other day about it.
It's like, I want guys on that are passion, that
are good, that are entertaining, and Joe's one of those guys.
He loves baseball, and it's kind of like when we
talk to Gary Parrish about college basketball. If you're kind
of a fringe fan and you listen to this guy, you're, yeah,
I'm gonna check that out. I'm gonna listen to that.
And I think Joe does that, does a trific job.

(30:17):
We'll get into some of the nuances of his numbers.
He does a really, really good job. He was on
the ground floor of baseball perspectives, the ground floor of
analytics in baseball. First he was the guy, but he
does a great job of not talking over you. He
makes you understand what they mean. And we appreciate that.
He'll be joining us throughout the year. We'll do it.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Miller said, that's what he decided to learn how to
read because of it.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Keith, good for congratulations, who knew. Well, We'll do a
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(31:34):
I'll keep this short because I mean, listen, they're out
of it. They haven't been officially eliminated, but they're going
to be officially eliminated in the next few days. They
played hard, played well, building something for next year. I've
told you guys this overall, I mean, they're still competing,
still entertaining. First periode sucked. It was about as battle
hockey as you can see. And then the next two
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(31:54):
it up. Donny Newman still looks good.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (31:57):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
The guys that you want to see play well and
kind of a established things. Montur evererly those types of
dudes playing well, Doco Goppol's alright, he was okay. That
line was kind of just okay last night. I even know,
I don't even know if they were okay, they were
they were, I mean, got new in it. Two goal posts,
I think, Yeah, I'm still need to see more from ten,
Like yeah, yep. Anyway, next up they play the Edmon

(32:23):
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Speaker 3 (32:38):
He's gonna do it, right, But like, yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
As a fan, do you want to like, is it
gonna feel weird to have ninety nine not be the
all time.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Score all time goal scorer goals not points score? Yeah? Yeah,
I mean yeah, but I I like Halvekin plays history regardless. Yeah,
it's just kind of there's a lot of people they're
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and a lot of people aren't liking Gretzky these days either.
So it's uh, which is weird because start connecting some dots.

(33:10):
The Russian's gonna beat the Canadians, record the Canadian who's
aligned himself with the anti Canadian president. Yeah, so anyway,
it's a there's a it's a it's a tangled web.
We leave it is in the world of hockey. But
any way, Yeah, he'll pay out, he'll pass it. I
like how he plays hard, he's nasty. I just the
one thing I don't like. He has a lot of
empty deck goals now right, Yeah, has a lot of

(33:32):
agan yeah, yes, yes, right, So it's like to but
that's fine, and what he's accomplished is remarkable. Okay, that's
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Network Central. So you asked me, asked that question again.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
So the question I had for in the first segment
we didn't have time to get it was we were
talking about opening day, Yes, and uh, what what are
your thoughts on? A lot of people think that open
day games should be wait for it during the day.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
The answer is yes, so, but I think a hybrid version.
I had this conversation with someone in the Mariners organization.
We had lunch a couple saturdays ago. This person is
fairly high up in the organization, and he randomly asked
me that exact same question, and I said, you know,

(34:25):
I've always thought, yes, some form of a day game.
I think in today's world, listen, there's realities in our business,
in our in our business, in our world, people work
like and not everybody can just take a day off.
It's what really pissed me off about what the NHL
did this year when they made the Kraken have the

(34:45):
first game of the year one thirties on a random Tuesday.
People pay a ton of money for season tickets. Hockey
is a nighttime activity. Now, if you share a building
and we'll see this someday here, Yeah, the Celtics, the Flyers,
the Bruins, the Blackhawks, the Bulls, the Range, all these

(35:06):
guys they share buildings. Lakers, Kings, You're gonna you're gonna split,
You're gonna play some home games or some some early
games on Saturdays or Sundays, but not during the week.
Hockey is a nighttime sport. NBA nighttime sport Baseball is
a different deal, and opening Day is a completely different deal.
My thing is I think it should be and I
bet there. I don't know if theyre ticket sales will

(35:26):
better or not. I mean they're really struggling to sell
tickets for tomorrow, Like it's it's like if you want
tickets that they are available, like a lot of them
are available. I think like a three or four o'clock
game would be perfect. I think that way you can
either your half a day, get there whatever it would be.
I think that to me, And it's not gonna be
too cold, it's not gonna be too early.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Also that yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, Tomorrow's is gonna be a miser I mean there
will be closed, but it'll still be cold. Do it
a little bit earlier that so to me, Yes, the
long answer is, I think opening days should be some
sort of day game. Now, I'm also selfish because I
wish it was earlier because I got a hockey game.
I gotta work mornight, and i'd certainly like to watch it.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
I just always associate Opening Day kind of with you know,
the sun's coming up on the season, right, like it's.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
And the word you just said, sun Day. Oh yeah,
opening Day.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
But yeah, I mean it's not a huge deal to me.
I don't mind that much. But in my head, I
do associate Opening Day with day games, and they have
had those right a lot of times.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
I mean, I know, new guy Marks all fired up
about the season starting on March twenty seventh, and I
get that. I think, to me, yeah, it's a little early.
I think you're just trying to but you're trying to
spread out days off without losing weekends. And also it
gives these with the days off, it gives the owners
an extra weekend of Friday, Saturday, Sunday, this weekend, things
like that. But is damn early like this is just

(36:47):
like welf and this is how baseball is. I haven't
looked at the schedule, but I guarantee you there's going
to be a whole bunch of games snowed out, rained
out in the Midwest and the East. That happens every year.
There's this massive reluctance to play more games in the
South and the West early on so we'll see that happen.
But I think honestly to be to be really honest
with you, Yeah, day game would be fun, but it
is what It is. Better to have baseball than no baseball.

(37:08):
And we got it tomorrow out of Team Mobile Park. Okay,
we gotta get some football in. It's Wednesday. That means
we talked to Cosell about the draft. You guys, refresh
my memory. How many offensive linemen and the Seahawks signed
in the off season?

Speaker 8 (37:19):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (37:20):
One, they have signed one?

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Yes, yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yes, they signed one guy, guy that never really played.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Uh well, let's talk offensive linement with Coselle interior offensive lineman.
What does he think about who Seattle returns? First of all?
Oh the Timmy La Maya, all those dudes. And what's
on the tape? What does the tape say about the
draft and draft guys that might fit here in Seattle,
especially with that new offense. He'll explain that coming up. Also,
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Speaker 1 (39:07):
All right, here we go. It is time to check
in with our good friend Greg Cosell from of course,
NFL Films, ESPN Matchup Show, and it's our pre draft
conversations with Greg. These are always fun team building. Last
week we Greg, this is the first week we've done
this talking about drafts that the Seahawks. They haven't met
a significant addition to the roster that we had to
spend about five or ten minutes on before we got
to the draft bell eligible players. How are you man?

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Oh I heard they signed Steve Larger this week.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
No, well, yeah, that's off brand, Steve large and his
name's River Craycraft. Yeah. Pretty close, almost, pretty pretty pretty close.
A lot of the way. We're gonna talk some offensive
linemen today, and in transparency, offensive linemen are hard for
us to go through with Greg because and for anybody
we're talking draft wise, there's a zillion of them. A

(39:54):
lot of those guys change positions and move from outside
to inside, and the guys we really want to kind
of fo focusing on our guys, probably on the inside
of the offensive line. Before I go through some names
and get your thoughts on some of these guys, I
do want to ask you this, Greg, the world that
we live in now, like with offenses in the NFL

(40:14):
being so different, right in different schemes, zone blocking scheme
and all those types of things, how important is it
for a player, especially in this position, interior offensive lineman,
to fit a scheme and in this case it's the
Clinton Kubiak scheme, right, and what they want to do offensively?
How important does the scheme fit?

Speaker 2 (40:33):
As much as anything, I think that becomes critically important.
You know. The sense is with what Kubiak has done
and what his background is, that you're going to see
more of his own run game, particularly there'll be an
outside zone element. And we talked about when they signed Darnold,
the idea of the play action pass game with the

(40:53):
quarterback under center, and so you're looking for offensive linemen,
particularly on the interior, who have some athletic ability. Now
that's a relative term ian because obviously, and I had
to learn this as I evaluated offensive lineman going back
when I first started doing college players, I don't know,
twelve fifteen years ago, maybe longer, I can't remember, you know.

(41:17):
I used to start and look at and start thinking
in terms of athleticism, and then I would do more
and more work, talk to more and more people, and
I realized that for interior guys, athleticism is fine. You
want them to move well, but you know, you just
have to get guys blocked. Sometimes it doesn't look pretty
when you're on the inside, but in this particular scheme,

(41:39):
you do want guys that can move. I remember years
ago when Alex Gibbs was in the league. I'm going
back a long time, as you know, and we used
to do a run plays for the matchup show and
we'd see that zone run game and it looked like
synchronized swimming with the five offensive linemen. All the steps
were the same, everything looked exactly the same. I'm sure

(42:00):
you know exactly what I'm talking about. Hopefully some of
the listeners do as well, you know, and you're kind
of looking for that. It's it's not so much that
they have to be great athletes in terms of a
forty time or things like that, but they have to
be able to move because in his own run game,
you're not blocking a man. Per se. You end up
blocking a man, but it's not a case where you

(42:21):
come to the line and it's I've got him. You know,
you start to move a certain way and whoever sort
of shows where you move, you block them. But I
would think that at the I don't know how they
feel about the center for Michigan who ended up playing
last year. Yeah, I don't know how they feel about
him as a starting center. But and I know lemeya

(42:42):
you know, ended up playing left guard and did okay.
He was a tackling college, so he had a little
more athletic ability than your normal guard. But I still think,
you know, I don't know where they are on Christian Haynes,
he was a third round.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Just gonna ask you that, Just going to ask you
that if I was at all three basically to Donna
lump those guys in together before I get to the
college is I was just gonna ask you, La Maya,
or Christian Haynes at the guard position or Ol Timmy
at the center position, are do you do you think
any of those guys have the trays to have a
better scheme fit with this offense than maybe the one
last year.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
I would argue, quite frankly, no, you know, and and
when I say no, it's not a hard nose if
you couldn't put him out there at all. But I
don't think that those three players exactly fit what they'd
probably be looking for, because I remember doing only with
Timmy coming out of Michigan, and I thought that he

(43:37):
was very much kind of a you know, a very
confined space player, and that was my sense of him.
Maybe they see him differently. I mean, obviously it's it's,
you know, not a totally new coaching staff, but a
new coordinator with a new scheme. And I'm you know,
Haynes b. Bradford is he's still on, He's still there.

(43:59):
He's just a big man. I'm not sure he fits
exactly what they want. Lemeya, could he fit that? He'd
probably be the one guy I'd say could probably fit it.
But I'm thinking that they might be looking to to
really change some of those players stylistically and athletically.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Let me start with a center. Then it's a guy
that I'm curious about Jake Majors is a center. He's
from Texas. So let's let's talk about Jake Majors.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
You know he's in it. He's a fascinating guy, and
I don't know if he's you know, where he'll be drafted.
You know, some might see here's a perfect example. He's
the kind of guy who some might think is is
too small, like in a normal you know, he's six
three three eight three oh six. He's got short arms,
and for a lot of people that they may say

(44:49):
the arms are too short, so he's not as big
as you'd ideally like. He possesses his short arms. As
I said, those two measurables could take him off the
board for some teams. There's no question he's an out
defensive center only prospect. But I really enjoyed watching this kid.
Keep one thing in mind. Beginning in twenty twenty one,
with his red shirt freshman season, Ian this guy started

(45:11):
every game in offensive center. He finished his college career
with fifty six starts at the University of Texas. That's
a program record. Most people know that Texas has had
some pretty good players through the years. I really like
this kid. I think he has enough movement to get
outside as an outside puller. I think he can run

(45:31):
his own run game. I thought he was a really
good one on one past protector with the use of
his hands. Even though he's not big, he was just
a player. And the look, I'm no offensive line guru,
so I don't make it sound like I'm a coach here.
I just really enjoyed watching this guy. He strikes me
as a guy that's going to find a home in
the NFL and be a starting center for years. Just

(45:52):
one of those guys.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
And I mean they've been searching for that position in
that player for a while. I mean Justin britt Field
in admirably for a while, but he was a converted tackle,
as you know, I mean ever since Max, ever since
the Max Hunger trade and you know, uh and and
a little brief stint with Justin brit it's been a
it's been a battle. They're trying to find a guy
to play that position for Seattle. And it's funny because
they had some good ones. Robbie Tobeck was really really good.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Uh you know, he was really good.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Yeah, that group, yeah, yeah, they were Okay, that was
Walter Jones Steve Hutchinson, Tobet, Chris Gray, Sean Locker, they
were okay, offensive line.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
That was okay, Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're okay. Shots of
Walter Jones, like lifting up a car or whatever. It was.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Yeah, well that was We'll get our friend Mike Omgran
started on that one. That was because the annual Walter
Jones holdouts, so his workout would be pulling around his
s Cadillac Escalade down home in Alabama. Uh, much to
the chagrin of coach Holgrin. If Mike, if you're listing
right now, I didn't bring that up. That was that
was Uh, that was great, co Sale that brought it up.

(46:54):
Coach Oligan sometimes he says, he and I think you're
always trying to poke my poke the baron you know. No, no,
I'm just maybe a little bit okay.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Hey, some guys don't like to go to training.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Camp, you know. And the one thing Coach holmg gonna
always tell us whenever Walter Jones showed up, he didn't
have to worry about one thing. You just you stick
him at left tackle and that's just he never ever
worried about that position. And that was That's what that's
why he's a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Let's seems pretty good.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
He was okay, pretty good, He was okay, all right,
we'll stay with the Seahawks interior lineman. It's Greg Cosel,
brought to by Seattle Cider down there in Soto. More
on them in just a couple of seconds. Tyler Booker
from Alabama? How do you project him? What do you
see with this guy?

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yeah, Tyler Booker is he's a really good prospect. I mean,
you're dealing with a guy that you know in past
protection in particular, he stayed square, he had really good
balance and footwork. He didn't give up a side, so
to speak, so that pass rushers were often forced to
work through him. And he had tremendous gript strength and
a really strong anchor. I thought that in the run

(47:52):
game when he came. You know, he's a big dude
by the way, six four, five, eight, three twenty one,
really long arms for offensive guard thirty four and a half.
You know, it's funny he didn't test well at all
at the combine. I don't know if that means anything
to people, you know, I guess for some it does.
But this guy was a powerful down blocker. A powerful
drive blocker, really strong lower body. He can can then

(48:15):
control guys with his upper body. He had contact strength,
he had movement power to sustain.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
You know.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
One of the things that and I learned this from
an offensive line coach, that one of the things you
look for, particularly in the zone run game, is you
want to be able to do two things. You want
to be able to execute a front side reach blocks
and backside cutoff blocks. Those are critical blocks in the
zone run game. And he can do both of those
things really well. So you know, to me, he's a

(48:46):
really really good prospect. Again, he's a guard. I don't
know where those guys get drafted. The other thing that
you probably like watching his tape is that he's got
a nasty playing demeanor. He finished with a really competitive edge.
He's just one of those guys. To me, he'll be
a good pro.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
That's that's a Mike McDonald tray. He likes those guys
that are just little mean, a little nasty. I mean,
it is funny we're talking about guards and centers and
it's just like the least sexy position in the NFL.
But it's the biggest need for Seattle right now. And
who knows what the priority. You know, do you dropped
them in the first round. A lot of these guys,
it feels like people think they're second and third round
like Day two guys. But we'll see a guy that

(49:21):
I think a lot of people remember because he you know,
they know they won a national championship and everything from
Ohio State, Donovan Jackson. I think they're moving him inside.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Well, Donovan Jackson is a guard. He ended up playing
left tackle because they're left tackle. Josh Shimmons got hurt
Week five or six against Oregon, so they ended up
moving Jackson inside because Ohio State needed to do that.
But you're dealing with the guy that's a higher level
offensive guard prospect. I mean, he's got elite size six
three five, a's three fifteen long arms for a guard,

(49:50):
tremendous wingspan, he's got elite size lane, outstanding athleticism and movement.
He's strong, he's powerful, plays with really good left bridge
of control as a run blocker, you know, generating what
I call short stroke strength and movement power. His athleticism
showed up in pass protection. You know, you're dealing with
a kid that he came out of Texas as a

(50:12):
five star recruit, the nation's number one rated offensive guard,
a top twenty five prospect in the country regardless of position.
He was basically a three year starter there. As I said,
they moved him to tackle because they had to, and
you know what he showed. Okay, but he's a guard
and that's where he'll play in the league. And it
wouldn't surprise me if, if you know, people saw him

(50:33):
as one of the best offensive guard prospects to come
out in years. I think this guy is a is
a really good prospect. I mean, Booker and Jackson to
me are guys that are going to be day one starters.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
When we talk about guys that played tackle in college,
the athleticism needed, and when they move those types of
guys inside, are they typically more athletic when they you know,
the converted tackles and the movements, are they typically more
athletic than guys who played guard for four years?

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Sometimes? You know, it's funny you mentioned that because let
me just mention something here. The most interesting prospect and
I'm fascinated to see it, and I hope to talk
to some people in the next you know, a week
or so. I've just been grinding so hard trying to
watch as many guys as I can. The most interesting
prospect is actually Will Campbell, who was a three year

(51:23):
starter at left tackle for LSU in the SEC. Okay,
he's six six three nineteen, but he's got short arms.
Now with the combine, he measured thirty two and five eights. Now,
they just had a pro day and he measured thirty
three inches. I don't know how that works, you know,
but the point is is he's got shorter arms. And
there's a lot of coaches because I've talked to coaches
over the years who viewed anything under thirty three. So

(51:46):
let's take the combine number thirty two and five eighths
who viewed that automatically as prohibitive to play the tackle
position in the NFL. And it's going to be very
interesting to see who him and what position they draft
him to play, you know, because and I even said
this in my transition as I took all my notes,

(52:08):
and I said, the overriding question as NFL teams project
Campbell to the next level will be the shortness of
his arms, with thirty two and five eighths being below
the thirty three inch demarcation point, Many online coaches have
for o tackle. So you know, this guy's put up
outstanding tape in the SEC. You could argue he is

(52:30):
a little tight in his core, but he's really a
good He's just a really good football player and he's
done it for three years, beginning from day one as
a freshman in the best conference in the country. But
he could be viewed by many as a guard prospect
and not a tackle prospect.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Interesting guy. Will keep an eye on him for sure.
Get out of Arizona. Jonah saba aaa And if I
butchered his name, my apologies to Big Jonah. If you
come here, I'll definitely get it right when you. If
you get drafted by Seattle in the meantime.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
I send them right. We're gonna send them right to you.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Yeah, I appreciate that. Let's just go Big Jonah from Arizona.
Your thoughts on him, Yeah, this is a guy that.

Speaker 8 (53:12):
You know.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
He he's played tackle in college and he's got really
long arms. It's it's gonna be really interesting. I thought
that his he's got a strength, power profile that that,
to me is is what he really is, and I
think it would be better maximized inside a guard could
he be a viable right tackle prospect for sure because

(53:34):
his arm length is almost thirty five inches, which is
really really good. But the key to me and and
again at right tackle, they still have lucas the key.
And I was told this a number of years ago,
and and and the you know, the light went off
in my head when I was told this. The whole
key is you have to be comfortable with it tackles

(53:54):
as one on one pass protectors, ian on third down
and in pure pass situation because the last thing you
want to have to do as an offense is start
keeping your tight end in you're back in or have
them chip. You want as an offense to be able
to send five out cleanly, all five eligible receivers out

(54:15):
cleanly into routes when you get into those third down
and pure pass situations, because if you start having to
keep people in or use them to chip, or change
your formations because you need to help tackle, that limits
what you can do in those sort of high leverage,
critical down in distant situations, and no offensive coach wants

(54:36):
to do that. So really a litmus test for whether
a guy is a tackle in this league. And I
know we're talking interior but we're just talking ball here.
I know a litmus test for tackles is whether they
can pass protect one on one. If you don't feel
a guy can do that, then you start to think
about him moving inside. And I don't know how teams

(54:57):
will feel about And I'm not sure I had to
pronounce his name either, so we'll call him Jonath for now.
So I'm not sure how you know how teams would
feel about Jonah. I thought his traites would best be
maximized inside, but again I'm not you know, I'm not
an offensive line coach, but I see him more as
a guard as opposed to a tackle.

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to hit him. Connor Colby, offensive lineman from Iowa.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Yeah, you know, it's funny. I actually when I go
to the combine, you know, everybody talks at the podium,
as you know, and he was just a guy that
I happened to here to speak at the podium. He
was a super kid, I mean, and he played a lot.
You know, he talked about his growth at.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Iowa.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
At Iowa, you know over the years, he's he's just
to me a soil like like I look at that,
a guy like that, and I think he's going to
be a ten year NFL player now. And don't forget,
Iowa is one of those teams that they ran with
a lot with the quarterback under center. They have a
back in this draft, Kaleb Johnson, who is basically an eyeback,

(56:29):
which is very rare in college football. As you know,
everything is shotgun or pistol, so he is used to
those kinds and they ran a ton of zone by
the way, He's a very intriguing guy. Now he won't
be a high pick. You're not We're not going to
be talking about him in the top sixty. But you know,
you get to the fourth round and I'm not good
at this, So I'm just throwing that out, you know,
as to where guys get drafted. But this guy is

(56:50):
a ton of experience in the zone run game because
that's what Iowa basically ran with Caleb Johnson. So again,
I don't know how they're Seahawks staff evaluates him. But
you're dealing with a guy that's done this. You're not projecting.
He's He's been a zone run blocker for a good
part of his career, so he's done it. It's there

(57:12):
on tape and he's pretty good at it, and you
could see the incremental growth year after year after year.
Because if I'm not mistaken, he's a three year starter.
So you're dealing with a guy that's done it.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Last guy, I want to ask you about which is
I think important especially when you're doing that the zone
blocking scheme we talked about the start of the segment.
Miles Fraser. Last guy, We'll talk about Miles Fraser offensive
linment from LSU.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Yeah, Alex, he is another team that had like a
hundred guys that I that I have to look at,
you know, And but I did take a peek of Frasier,
and you know he's he's It's funny how sometimes these
big guys don't have long arms.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
You know, you never know how that works.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
But he's a big dude. He's a I like this kid.
And and by the way, talking about what Mike McDonald
might want, you're talking about an attitude player. This guy's
and sometimes at guard that really is really import This
guy is competitive, he's physically tough. The term I use
is he has an outstanding playing personality. He was he

(58:09):
was used as a puller in the gap scheme run game,
and he showed really strong force on contact. Let's talk zone.
You know, he can generate a lot of power. He
can keep his feet moving. I mentioned front side reach blocks.
He showed the ability to do that to get his
hips turned. He can climb to the second level, he

(58:29):
stayed balanced with power. I like Miles Frasier. And again
I'm bad at where guys get drafted, but he could
fit into his own run game. And I think, you know,
you're starting I think to get into the category the
area of third fourth round, tight pick around type players.
But who knows. But I would bet just talking generally

(58:50):
now from thirty thousand feet, you know, the macro view,
I think they're gonna look at guys inside because I'm
not sure as we started this segment in that they
have those guys on the roster right now that they
would ideally like to have. You know that that's just
my worldview based on you know, Kubiak and that zone
run game concept is sort of a foundation.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
As always, you're the best, love talking to it, great stuff.
We will we're talking to you. We're going to find
a date sometime before the draft to do what we
did in the season. It was probably the most popular
thing we did last year, I mean in terms of
football coverage. When we just kind of turn it over
to you and mister Millen for a while and just
but we'll talk about, you know, Kubiak's schemes, what they're

(59:31):
looking for the draft, maybe not even so much specific players,
just what they're looking for, you know, and what they
want to do, what McDonald wants to do. And I
think we can do that with the two of you,
and well, we've reached a level of football knowledge that
most of us can ever get to, so I can't
wait to do that.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Well, you know, it's funny, not just because I'm talking
to you, but I think the Seahawks are going to
be one of the most interesting teams this year because
what they put together on defense, the whole thing with
Darnold and Kubiak, you know, in the play Action Pass game,
and you know, obviously they want to you know, add
some players here and the that are important. But I
think they're going to be a really really interesting team.
This defense, to me, and we'll talk more about this obviously,

(01:00:06):
even as we start with the season, this is a
really fascinating defensive unit.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
To me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
They could be a dominant unit now, you know, just
looking at personnel and knowing you know, how smart McDonald is.
I'm really anxious to see them.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Thank you, sir. I'm sure you have more tape to
look at today, so we'll turn you loose.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Ah, Yeah, I do, I do. You know I've been
you know, it just hit me today somebody. I was
talking to somebody and I realized I've been working seven
days a week since I class August fifteenth.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
So you need a day off, sir, Maybe on maybe
on let me see what the date would be on
April twenty six, So maybe the twenty seventh of April,
you get a day off.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Maybe, Yeah, that's that's what I'm looking for.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Yeah, Jess make a note. We'll call Greg on the
twenty eighth and see if he wants to come on.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
I was gonna say, as someone who planned her own
wedding around football season, I completely understand.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
We're calling it. I'll let I always let Jess call.
You always am to her call. So we'll do that
later on in the month.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
I have great chats though, that's the thing.

Speaker 8 (01:01:04):
Yeah, we do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
We haven't had one in a while. Test we'll have
to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
I owe you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
All right, there you go. Thanks Greg. We'll talk to
you next week. Thanks Greg, cos we'll come back. We'll
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and three tomorrow on the show. Will be at Jimmy's
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not Oakland, not Alameda County, not Vegas, just athletics.

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football for the Kent Knights. We got to play in
the field before a Sea X game, I say around
nineteen eighty scored a touchdown. What little fans in the
stadium was before the game cheered. Don't forget the urinal
troughs and the men's bathroom, all those were fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
You know, love those.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
The grass did love those.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Everyone just thought trough was the best thing ever.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Everyone loved those. And you know what, those things lived
on up until a couple of years ago at the
Tacoma Dome, but they got rid of them there too,
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Nine three one, says Kingdom memory. Last manner game of
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because it Yeah, some people are up on Beacon Hills
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What was what made them special?

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They were green? Oh oh yeah, they were green. Like
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is what they did back in the day. I swear
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(01:06:25):
whatever was, whatever it was. We were there because you
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Yeah yeah, And so you do booth and they would
like have one or two. But what they would do
at the end of the game, if the hot dogs
didn't sell, they take them out of the buns, wash
them off, and then re use them. Yeah, king dogs
were a special thing.

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I think I just got mm hmmm inherent food poisoning from.

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Listening to I'll Tell My favorite memory, honestly was this. Okay,
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realized the dome didn't collapse. Crowd went wild side. Note
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Dave nee House ran on the booth. Great game.

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I still remember listening back to that audio.

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Dave knee House and Dave neve House welcome back Baseball
pretty much sums it up. Yeah, yeah, I think that's
it all right. You hear that a couple of times tomorrow. Uh,
see what else we've got going on here. I have
two stories at the Sounders game the first night as
well years later as at the MS game. My grandfather
took me and my five year old brother at the time,
who went all went to the trough to do our business,

(01:07:38):
and my little brother looks over our grandpa says, wow,
you have an old one. It is fantastic. Also teaches
me to ever read stuff cold again. Let's see Kingdome.

Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Sat in the top row for the first sporting event
Sounders versus Cosmos Hale and Franz Beckenbauer. I was at
that game. I mentioned that earlier with Mark. It was awesome.
Nice nineteen seventy seven Baseball All Star Game, original Seahawks
season ticket holder, Final four, Misschig universeeat in Hall and
overtime Paul McCartney in the wings. But favorite memory I
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during the text me back he in that. I wonder
if that was during the good Will Games ninety one.
That might have been kind of the the Bob Walsh
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it Actually it was actually really cool. They tracking fields
out at dub and stuff. It's pretty cool. Yeah, let's see.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Toronto Blue Jays fans kicked out for heckling George Bell.

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I'm gonna read this one because this is mine and
we gotta get to a break. I know, okay, four,
two five, build a beer Man and Rick the peanut
throwing guy. Those guys were two legends, and I'll never
build a beer man, freeze your teeth, give your tongue
a sleigh ride ice cold beer. I remember his saying
to this day. And literally I wasn't even old enough
to drink beer. But the big build of beer man,
freeze your teeth, give your tongue a sleigh ride, ice

(01:09:04):
cold beer. As he's pedaling beers up and down the
and they came in these like like cardboard or like
paper cups with blacks around them, and you had to
drink the damn beer quick, yeah, because it would just
melt right from the like it would go right through
that Like you couldn't hold lot of those things forever.
And I'll tell you the coolest thing I ever thought
this is like my dad was a TV news anchor

(01:09:26):
and that was back when people watch local TV news
a lot. And we were sitting in a game and
Build a beer Man saw him. He says milk for oh,
can I buy you a beer? And Build a Beer
Man gave my dad a free beer, and I thought
that was the coolest thing I'd ever seen it go. Damn,
I didn't realize my dad was that big of a deal.
It's like he's just you know, your dad's milt whatever,

(01:09:46):
and build a beer man. And Rick the peanut guy
loved him. He gave him free peanuts all the time.
I thought those were the coolest things ever. And then
you know, I was like, man, maybe someday those gis
guys give me a free peanut or free beer. Of
course no longer there with us, So there's the implosion.
Implosion happened. But yeah, freezer teeth, give your tongue a sleigh, right,
high school a beer. Build a beer Man was an
absolute legend of that. A lot of people about rust

(01:10:09):
being a tool, yes, see as I agree, a lot
of stuff about the urinals and the pet troughs. Yes. Indeed.
The other thing you miss is a little secret bar
in the Kingdom.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Oh yeah, they someone texted in about that. It's like
a closet.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
It was like just like marked door on the concourse
and you open it up and it's about as big
as this room here anders And it was a bar,
and it was a forefinger poor and a little plastic
cup whiskey coke. That's what you get, simple as that
gen and tonic whatever it was. Nobody knew it was
even there. Yeah, Oh, that's fantastic to go the triangle
afterwards and away you go, oh the triangle. All right,

(01:10:45):
we're done. Softy joint is coming up next. I'm gonna
give you. I'm gonna give you a line, and I
want you to tell me who said it. I know

(01:11:06):
you'll get it on the first tribe. All right.

Speaker 10 (01:11:08):
Every time I hear this theme song coming in this bumper,
as we call in the business, I think it's like
an opening for a Western magic.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
From your Star Wars thing? Is this Star Wars? Okay?
Ready there you see what's the line? All right?

Speaker 10 (01:11:23):
This is from one of your weird films you like
to watch first of all. You know me, I'll watch films,
creepy films.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
You know what? Yesterday the best part of about the
uh little clash of the whatever it was yesterday we
did clash around. Every time Softy brought up a movie
of reference, everyone kind of looked at him like he's
got two heads. All right, So here we go. Freeze
your teeth, give your tongue a sleigh ride, ice cold beer.
Oh god, I have no idea. I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
You would know. I know what I know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
I don't know the guy. He would pedal beer in
the Kingdome, freeze your teeth, give your tongue a sleigh ride,
ice cold beer. You never heard that, okay, I've never
heard you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
I never ran it.

Speaker 10 (01:12:03):
You were probably you were probably too young, never ran
into build a beermer. I was more of a Rick
the Peanut guy. Yeah, Rick Kaminski. Yeah, he was like
I got hit in the face by a Rick Kaminski fastball.
Now when you was behind this where you're where you
bought somebody else, somebody else right next to me and
just bang right. I mean I may have moved in
the He was incredible. People that never saw Rick the
Peanut Guy. He would chuck a bag of peanuts and there,

(01:12:26):
and it was like and he could do it from
forty yards away.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Guy weighed ninety pounds. Yes, I mean it was unbelievable.
And the best thing was he had the slick watch
wristbands like all kinds of wristbands, and had and a
headband the whole nine yards. But that guy, you'd wave
at him from like forty yards away, and you may
not even want peanuts, but you wanted him to throw
you the peanuts, right, And so you order you caught him.

Speaker 10 (01:12:47):
Yeah, how many how many people did you see catch
a bag of peanuts from Rick the Peanut Guy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
That didn't order it? No, And the whole thing was
just like he didn't he didn't catch part of the experience.
It's parting experience.

Speaker 10 (01:13:01):
Well, and it was funny because for a guy that
and I don't know what he did in a spare time.
I'm sure he had another job. I don't know how
much money you make something peanuts at the Kingdome.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
He was always happy.

Speaker 10 (01:13:11):
He was in all the time watching the worst baseball ever.
The guy sells peanuts and he's in a great fricking.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
He was there in the Bill Plumber days going nineteen
ninety two were gone and twenty games Why the Peanuts.

Speaker 10 (01:13:22):
The first time I heard a dirty joke is when
Rick the Peanut Guy delivered a bag of hot, piping
hot peanuts to me and my dad at a Mariner
baseball game and he told me my first dirty joke?

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Oh, my dad, did I think I can say it
on the air. By the way, it's not.

Speaker 10 (01:13:35):
That it's not that terrible you and I have Back
in the eighties, it was probably terrible, But now it's
like hey, or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
I thought. Back in the eighties it was more terrible.
And now you can't say I think I can say it,
to be honest with you, you might try.

Speaker 10 (01:13:47):
My dad looks at me and says, hey, who's the
world's strongest man?

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
I said, who?

Speaker 8 (01:13:51):
Just like that?

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
The peanut man. He keeps working. Well, his nuts are burning.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
That's a good job.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
That was fun.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
That's pretty Imagine being like nine and your dad says, well,
all right, I know you're play to do something anyway,
but what was your favorite memory?

Speaker 10 (01:14:14):
They don't the last game ever? Uh with the Mariners
and Rangers. Last Seahawk game was the Dolphin game. That's
the day that Hugh Mellon almost killed me. By the
way in the press box.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
What happened?

Speaker 10 (01:14:24):
Well, I want to you so so Hugh, and uh,
you and I have talked about this on the year before. Okay,
we talked about this on the year before. He's sitting
in the front row of the press box. Uh, this
is the playoff game, wild Card game, John John getting
a versus Dan Marino. And I walked up to Hugh
and he hadn't seen me coming, and he was sitting
here and I'm behind.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Him, Hey, you right in the face, right right in
the back of the head.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
He win.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
He looks like he's gonna kick my ass.

Speaker 7 (01:14:51):
I don't blame the guy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
And he's in my face and he's mad. He's like
thirty eight, thirty seven years old. And I said, out
of his mind.

Speaker 10 (01:14:58):
He said, dude, I understand, and you're mad, but if
you punch me right now, we're never ever getting for
another Seahawk game.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
He's like, you're right, and he sat down. I mean,
he remembers that.

Speaker 10 (01:15:12):
But the last game ever against the Rangers was Edgar
got kicked out of the game. Griffy hit a bomb
to the upper deck and right field and some guy
jumps out of the left field stands wearing nothing but
a sock like one sock was knocked on his foot.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Gotcha, I got right after. I asked that I had
to figure it out at every situation. Having so much
fun that Ranger game.

Speaker 10 (01:15:34):
And then a week and a half later, Jose Mason
gave it up against the Padres in the first opening
game at Safego Field.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Yeah, and we were off and running. Baby. That's actually
probably appropriate.

Speaker 10 (01:15:44):
During my kleptomaniac days, I stole an all Star ballot
voting box from the Kingdome just walked out of it. Second,
the day of the Little when you punched out the
little the security gate right with the chads, there it is.
I took a picture of morn.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
God, you stressed me out when I wasn't even there.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
I have I have seats from the Kingdom.

Speaker 10 (01:16:01):
Remember they used to have that rope that would separate
the outfield seats from the box seats.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Well, it was a general mission. Like if you buy
a general mission, they wouldn't let you like in the yeah, jest.
They just have like a big rope, Like I was
supposed to just stand here because there's a rope. But
you know what they did.

Speaker 10 (01:16:13):
Lay used to have a Chainley fence. I'm gonna say
they put the Chainley fence one hundred level. There was
a chainlea fence with a lot on it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
Like, you guys are in steerage.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
You ain't coming over here.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
You paid eight dollars for those tickets. Damn me, you're
not going to come down to the empty seats.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
You're not setting with.

Speaker 10 (01:16:28):
The first class people. You're with the bums over here
in the outfield. Let's see petros Mike Florio, Larry Stone.
I'm sure he'll have some Kingdom memories as well. He'll
make his debut courtesy of the Ram by the Way,
and then Brian Schmetzer what joined us as well at
five forty five tonight, and Dan Bilzma from Krack and
by the Way's weekly visit courtesy of Days about the
Fourth Line.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
I will, okay, I will, and Joey to court hitting
a wall. You should, I'll do all that.

Speaker 6 (01:16:52):
That's yea for the mild mannered and marginally objectionably in
for ness.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
This is paddle Day saying so long everyone,

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