Furness Show 4-15: Joe Sheehan, Steve Palazzolo, John Lund.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Joshi enjoins us Joshian newsletter Joe Shean dot com. He
is with us right now on the Beacon Plumbing hotline. Hello, sir,
how are you good?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Now?

Speaker 4 (00:36):
What's going up?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Not much? Not much, Uh, lots to get to. We
just mentioned the Mariners have a series of nine game
homes or nine games, sorry, nine game road trip starting
tonight in Cincinnati against the Reds. They're going to have
a player make his major league debut at third base,
Ben Williamson. Good prospect, but what we're told, very good glove.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Not a great hitter. But you wrote a thing about
how hitting is down all the way across baseball. Maybe
he'll just fit right in.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Yeah, I was looking earlier getting ready for this hit,
and I saw that the Mariners are hitting two ten, three, eight,
three fifty and that's still an above average weight and
runs created in Major League Baseball right now. Just it's tough.
Yesterday was a high scoring day, but coming indi US today,
teams were under four point three runs a game, and
that includes you know, all the extraading nonsense that happens,

(01:23):
and all the pitcher the position players pitching. So it's
really a bit of a dead dead ball error. We'll
see as the weather warms up. Obviously it's not going
to stay this low, but we should be. We could
be headed for one of the lower scoring seasons really
since dead ball error was it's considered up until nineteen nineteen,
but really it was just the nineteen hundreds. You had

(01:45):
the nineteen sixties, you know, Bob Gibson and the big
strike zone, and then you had a smaller dead ball
period from eighty eight to ninety two. This looks a
bit like that, only it's shaped differently. Back then the
teams would hit to sixty without much power. We hit
two forty with a lot of power.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
You're you study the numbers all the time. I want
to get to the numbers in a second, but in
a general sense, why is this? I mean, there's such
a thing as a dead ball, there's such a thing
as that, you know, well, the steroid earrow when you
know a lot of people were hit and Britdy Anderson's
hting fifty bombs. There's things like that. Pitching we know

(02:24):
is really good when you look at it. Joe, what
is the biggest cause for this? Because players are bigger, stronger, faster,
But I guess maybe that means but pictures are as well.
But what's the cause.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
The pictures are too close to the hitters. If you
were designing baseball today, you wouldn't put them out at
sixty foot six inches. You probably put it at sixty two,
maybe sixty three. The pictures are too close to the hitters.
That's really why. That's the single defining point that shapes
the entirety of today's game. It's why hitters have to
sell out the power because they don't really have enough

(02:56):
reaction time. And that's kind of just feeds everything. Pitchers
are too close to the hitters. In recent seasons, we've
seen teams get better defensively as well. Now we had
you know, they ban the shift going into twenty twenty three,
I guess it was. But if you watch games today,
you know infielders are still all over the place, and
they've gotten very good at fielding grounders and short line drives.

(03:19):
We just can we know where the hitters are going
to hit the ball. So if batting average online drives
is down because of that batting average and the round
ball is down, And then the other thing is outfielders.
There are two things again, position team's position. They're in
their outfielders deeper than they ever have before because they've
decided sensibly that giving up a single isn't as bad

(03:40):
as giving up a double or a triple. I know, crazy, right,
But again it goes to knowing where the ball is
going to be hit and also choosing better defensive players.
There seems to be a trend now, particularly in up
the middle positions, to select for defense rather than offense.
So you've got teams saying, hey, look, we don't care
if this it's to thirty, we want the glove out there.

(04:02):
And at the league level of the accumulation of all
those decisions leads to some really ugly bottom of lineups
seven eighty nine around the league is just really disastrous.
So again, every team is doing what it can to win,
but the completably, the total of all those decisions is
taking runs out of the league. It's taking hits out

(04:22):
of the league, taking particularly singles and doubles. If you
look at batting average on balls and play, that number
typically throughout baseball history bounced around three hundred, and you know,
I want to say, it's two eighty one in the
early going this year, and it's been in the two
nineties in recent seasons. And this gets to you know,
teams are just really good at turning balls and playing
outs and things are very hard on hitters. So if

(04:43):
you think about I think we talked about this last week,
you know, how are we going to score runs? Well,
you know, in a league that it's two forty, it's
very hard to string hits together. You're just not gonna
have a whole lot of innings where you get three
four singles or doubles. So it goes back to what
we got to hit the ball over the fence I
was looking coming in Today, the Marriagers score almost half
their runs on homers. Twenty nine out of sixty one
runs have come out home months because that's the only

(05:05):
path to score, and you've got to hit the ball over.
Everybody's said, if you just did it over the outfielders, said, well,
you can't hit it over the outfielders dead anymore because
the outfielder that used to be playing two hundred and
ninety feet from home plate is now playing three hundred
and fifteen feet from home plate, so it's much harder
to hit it over his head. If you hit it
to the outfield, it's harder to hit it into the
gaps because the outfielders have better angles to cut those out.

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Doubles are down, triples are down. So again, all of
these things go to how do we score runs? And
right now the defenses, including the pitching, just way ahead
of everybody else. And people have said to me, you know,
can you really notice, like you know, one in one
hit a game one, you know, one and a half
it's a game. Well, yes, if you turn one hit
hit a game into an out, it's about six tenths

(05:49):
of a one. Turn one and a half into one
and a half. Not that baseball works that way. Turn
about a full run a game where all of this
happens in a very small space like the wast thatting average. Ever,
I want to say it's two thirty seven. The highest
is two ninety and you know that's you know, a
hit or to a game over the course of a
full season. What was costner a major? Was it major league?

(06:13):
Not Major league? By one hit a week? See costa
is a paint of the butt.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
This one.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
It's get too many big, yeah, Bulder, Ye, yeah, tin Cup.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
I was recording Tin Cup the other day. But yeah,
one hit a week. The different street two fifty and
three hundred and the majors is one hit a week.
So that's kind of the difference between having a high
offense league and a low offense league. You know, one
hit a week across one hit, one hit a week
across the entire league. So yeah, it's it's tough time

(06:43):
for hitters. Die down, man. It's just and plus you
know stuff we talked about before too. It's just teams
are carrying eight relievers. Pitchers never ever pitched higher. If
you're a starter, you get your ninety pitches in, they
pull you, They bring in a reliever. He goes fifteen pitches,
they bring in the next reliever. Relievers never pitch on
three straight days anymore, and managers try to keep them

(07:05):
from pitching on consecutive days. You know, there's a chart
I use for the gaming newsletter on road a Wire,
and you can just see it. Just go through this
chart any given day and you'll see that most pitchers
aren't even pitching on back to back days anymore. So
pitchers never pitched tired anymore. We know it. In terms
of starters, right, Starters never go deep into games anymore.
Starters don't pitch on four days rest anymore. Five days

(07:27):
rest has become the standard. There are more starts on
five days rest. I'm gonna get a resting for this
opinion on five days rest than not anything else. So
even though the classic five man rotation, even that's kind
of gone by the wayside. It's a five day rotation.
So all of these things are contributing to to lower offense.

(07:48):
And you know, I don't see any I don't see
anything from MLB indicating that they either recognize they have
a problem or they have any idea.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
If it's Joshi and joining us, yeah, I mean it's
the are things interesting because I think the Mariners, you
could if if Josh Haterer would have been available, last Wednesday,
they probably don't win that game against the Astros, right,
but he had come in and close the previous two.
Same thing. It can work the other way. I mean
six of the mariners eight wins this season have come
with a save, a high leverage save from Ondris Munno's. Like,

(08:20):
if he's not available at some point, they're probably in
trouble too. I want to get back to the home
runs in a second, because maybe Jerry Depoto is playing
chess while we're playing checkers here. But before we get
to that, how much of the is it to blame on?
Just hell, Joe, you're to blame. You were at the
start of the advanced metrics world, the scouting and all
the information available to these teams. Now you got you

(08:43):
see him look down at their wristbands. You know, cal
Rawley comes up, all right, where am I going to play?

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Here?

Speaker 6 (08:48):
Here?

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Here, here, depending on the pitch, all this stuff. I
mean that that has to contribute to part of it, too, right.

Speaker 7 (08:54):
Oh sure?

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Based absolutely you think do you think I'd be richer
for having ruined an entire sport? Really worked out that way?
You got to remember, I mean when I was starting
out in the nineties, we were being told we were
ruining baseball for you know, it's funny using OBP to
evaluate hitters instead of adding average or telling people RBIs
or content, we were ruining baseball. So it's funny because

(09:16):
I look at some of the stuff that's being that's
out there now. You know, well, we're going to talk
about steam shifted weight, and we're going to talk about
batting the where guys have their feet in the batter's box.
And I'm like, it's just hilarious to me. The stuff
that we can do now that is more accepted than.
You know, RBIs a context dependent Maybe Joe Carter isn't
that good and being called your ruining baseball for that.

(09:36):
But the point I like to make here is that
the changes in the game are too One is information,
and if you had given John McGraw the information we
have today, he would have aligned his defenders the same way.
It's just about information collection. If you can tell Casey Stegel, Casey,
this guy hits the baseball here eighty percent of the time,

(09:58):
he would have put Bobby richardson there seven of the time.
So that's part of it, right. The other thing is
the physical development. You know, when I was coming up.
If you threw ninety five, they did a big graphic
for you, ninety five by one hour picture. Oh here's
this flame on the God love fox, and now you
throw ninety five. That's that's the bond end for being
a picture. Certainly a relief pitcher, ninety five is the buying.

(10:19):
If you don't throw ninety five, you really don't have
a place in a bullpen. So my thing about that
is if Bill James had never been born and pitchers
were still throwing ninety five, ninety six, ninety seven, ninety eight,
the game would look much the same. It's not the
stat heads that did it. It's the velocity of the pictures.
It's pictures who can just throw so hard from sixty

(10:41):
feet six inches that they break the game. I'm not
saying statins have had no advanence and don't mean it
like that, but statads have also been the one saying
move the mound back. Statards have been the one saying,
don't let teams have forty seven pitchers a year, tap
them at eleven on a given day, tap them at
a certain transactions per month. Stat heeads have been the

(11:02):
one pointing out ways to fix the game from the
league level. So you think about how I came to
the game in the nineties. A lot of our focus
was on how do you win, get guys on base,
pictures out, to strike guys out, you know, all the
things that we didn't you know, Stadhead, you know, oh
forty now, we weren't really thinking about the league level.

(11:24):
But when guys that you think about the league level,
we're proposing all of these solutions that the league is
just ignored. I don't think you can necessarily blame stat
heads for you know, I'll look at the strikeouts, to
look at the home runs, but also acknowledging the strikeouts
a proposing ways to fix the strikeouts and the home
runs the league. I can't make the league. They changed

(11:44):
kind a consulting conversation with some guys league office, maybe
twenty one or twenty two, and they literally implemented the
opposite of everything I suggested.

Speaker 6 (11:53):
So I can't really I can only do.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
So much here. You know, as a writer of somebody
with an audiences on the radio. If I'm going to
tell you the shift isn't your problem, the balls and
player or the problem, and you ban the shift and
don't do anything about the balls and play. That ain't
my fault, man.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
No, is a really interesting thing I'm looking through here.
And because the home runs, which we talked about last
week and you just mentioned it again, I mean that's
because of the pitchers and their ability and scouting like
you're you have guys that are literally swinging for the
offenses every at bat for success. Seattle is seventh in
Major League Baseball in home runs with nineteen Yankees. First

(12:31):
place team Dodgers, we'll get to them in a second,
little struggles lately, Angels, Tigers, these are all the top
home run hitting teams in baseball, and very small sample size,
I know, sixteen games or so, but those are all
the best teams in Major League Baseball right now.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
The only way to have a good offense in any
given year, one team like the five you know, the
Padres last year had got a good offense.

Speaker 6 (12:53):
They were the high.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Contact You look back to the ten years to those
Royals teams and we're going to talk about but you
can name all the exceptions, by and large, if you're one,
if you want to score runs, you have to hit
the ball out of the ballpark, not because that's always.
You know, in eighteen eighty five, they wanted to hit
the ball hard and far. This isn't necessarily new information,
but we've reduced the game because the pitchers are so

(13:16):
good to that being kind of the only path to
it if there just aren't enough other paths to winning.
This is certainly a frustration. You know, people want to
go back to the ages. Hell, I want to go
back to the eighties. But you're not going to replicate
artificial turf. You know, artificial turf ruined a lot of careers.
We're not bringing back Kaufmann Stadium in a k e five.
We're not bringing back Bush Stadium or the Kingdom.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
The Kingdom.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
You can't you can't replicate a lot of them. You know,
an MLB changed the steel rules, change the Pickboff rules
to create more steals. They have created more steels, but
it's all empty calories because if you go from first
to second and all you have is a better view
of two strikeouts, you're not really changing baseball all that much.
You're just adding steels for fantasy players. You've got to
fix the pitch batter relationship. And I feel like we

(14:01):
hit on this once above that I know it's a
hobbyhost of mine, and I apologize for going back to
you all the time. No, but the sixty feet between
the mound and the plate is half the problem at
least maybe more. And you've got pictures again. Eighteen ninety
three was when we last move changed the picture batter distance.
They were throwing seventy five miles an hour. The average

(14:22):
picture was about four foot nine and he had no
extension whatsoever. And now we've got Josh Hayter or Paul's
schemes or whoever you want to pick, these big guys
with all this extension, throwing twenty miles an hour, harder
than they ever did back then. It makes no sense
to have the mound in the same place as it
was one hundred and twenty five years ago.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Is it doable? That's the question. I mean, I think
I'm just thinking of other sports. So the NBA and
even college basketball to a certain extent, they implement the
three point shot. It becomes too easy for guys. They
move the line back and it really isn't that hard
of a thing. They just move it back and they
don't really care if it's different than call college or
high school or even the women's game. They don't care.

(15:04):
They just say we're moving it back. That's what the
NBA does. Hockey is a good example, you know. Years ago.
I want to say, like in two Whenever, one of
the lockout years, one of the more onical lockout years,
they said, we've got increased scoring. We can't have two
to one games every night. They took the center right.
We still see a center ice red line for icing,
but no more is a two line pass off side
so you can fire at two hundred feet to a

(15:26):
guy streaking down. Less offsides, more goals, more offense. Those
are fairly easy to do. Can base Is it realistic
to have baseball move the mound back with diamonds all
across the country, Well, you have to.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
You have to acknowledge it. This is something we're only
going to do at the highest levels.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Okay, maybe college.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
I don't think you can do it. I don't think
both in withood Park here and move them and move
all the mounds back. I think you just accept that
it's something that's going to change when you get to
the professional ranks. I think that's probably where you would
draw the line is professional rights. But there's been resistance
to this. They didn't. They tried an experiment in the
Atlantic League in twenty nineteen. There was resistance to it,
and the numbers didn't show much of a difference. That

(16:07):
doesn't actually matter to me, only because we are dealing
with a problem that only starts in the major leagues.
And what I mean by that is the Atlantic League
didn't have a whole lot of guys starting ninety nine.
They didn't have a lot of ninety one mile an
hour sliders in the Atlantic League. Like this is very
much a major league baseball problem that doesn't really exist
once you get past that level. Once you get down

(16:27):
even into the higher minors. Now, obviously you want guys
training on a greater distance, but by and large, you
need it's a major league problem. It's major league pitchers
who are witches, basically forcing hitters to make to guess,
every hitter is a guest hitter now, because you just
don't have the time to be anything else. So the
other thing I would like to see, and I've been adamant,

(16:49):
I mean, I've been an advocate of automated ball and
strike calling, not the challenge system, just letting the system
make the calls for a very long time now. And
one of the reasons to do this is that, you know,
things are unbalanced between pictures and hitters as it is,
and when so many pitches outside the strike zone are
called ball called strikes, it just further puts the thumb

(17:11):
on the scale against hitters. I know there are people
who live for framing, who just really love seeing the
catcher move their glove from here to here, or not
move their glove from here to here like that. That's
why they love baseball, Okay, but it doesn't really do
a whole lot for the person in section three thirteen.
There is almost nobody at the ballpark who can see framing.
It is entirely something you have to see on TV. Frankly,

(17:32):
you have to see it in slow motion. You really
understand what you're get is it is not fan friendly
in any way, But you know what it's fan friendly. Doubles, Yes,
you know it's fan friendly. A ball in the gap
that a left fielder dives to catch. We want more
balls to play, so I want to see the strike
zone called not just consistently, but a seventeen inch wide plate.

(17:53):
I don't want hitters having to protect two and three
inches off the plate, because that's also important because what's
the pitch gets ahead, oh one, and they'll just keep
throwing pitches off the plate home, hoping the Empire gets bored.
You know what, that's fine, that's close enough, that's a strike.
That's completely JJ real mudo. I want to say, basis
loaded last night against the Giants, the three to two
pitch two baseballs outside gets called a strike. Completely changes

(18:16):
the game. I want to eliminate that. I want a
seventeen inch wide player or even you can make it
narrower as far as it's but we've got to do
something to fix the balance between pitcher and hitters. I
would move the mound back. You don't want to move
the mound back to five. Use abs to call a
strictly plate wide strike zone and force pitchers. Here's the
other thing. I know I'm up against the stead of

(18:38):
the seven here, So let me let me make this
perform right now. Pitchers can throw these incredibly you know, sweepers,
and these pitchers that move the kick change because they
know they might get a wider strike zone that actually exists.
If you force them to throw an actual ball over
the plate, it's going to force them to throw more fastballs,

(19:00):
are thusted to throw more hittable pitches. There's gonna be
a transition here. If you did this tomorrow, yes, walk
rates would go up, offense would go up, but eventually
pictures would a death. You have to force pitchers to
throw more hittable pitches if you just keep giving them
these you know, nineteen and twenty one inch wide plates.
That's just another way in which game the game gets

(19:21):
more strikeouts and fewer as.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Wild stuff realkie before they go Dodgers losing with the
last three series? Is that right? Lost three series in
a row? So I guess they're not gonna go undefeated
this season, is there? Is it just early season or
what have you? I mean, that's that seems a little
odd that that team will be losing series.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
I'm not crazy. That's all of them six right?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (19:41):
Are you asked me about you used need to be
worried about a team.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
That's I'm not worried, ab Yeah, no, so so the
three the three straight series losses, it's just it's it
seemed odd to me. Yeah, good, Okay? Does it mean
does it mean anything? When my Mariners sweep the When
the Mariner sweep somebody though, can that means that?

Speaker 4 (20:00):
And they needed it because they came to that series
three back of the Raiders. You lose that series, but
you only get thirteen games in division now, so you
really don't want to, you know, fall too far behind.
But what I took from that series they allowed six
runs in the entire series. The Raiders aren't hitting for anything.
But that's what you want to see.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
Man.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
It was Wu Gilbert and Wu Miller and Gilbert, right, yes, yeah,
I mean that's the shutdown that that's we're talking about.
The home runs it start just to bring it all together,
Earl Weaver baseball, right, good starting pitching, good defense on
a three run homer, that's what they're playing right now.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
And they don't want that automatic balls and strikes and
that's sixty two foot mound or anything like that in Seattle.
They want to hit home runs and pitch like you
just said. And they'll keep on winning against by the way,
against the Reds, a team that the Mariners have a
highest winning percentage of any team in Major League Baseball
against the Cincinnati Reds in the history, like and now
they've only played them twenty four times, but yeah, nineteen

(20:53):
to five. I think something like that, but hey, you
know what, they've had success against them, so we like that.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
In fact, that junior rivalry.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Who you know what, I'm pretty sure one of those
one or two, maybe two of those five losses came
in Junior's return back to Seattle on that weekend series
years ago, if I'm not mistaken. So hey, listen, thank you, Joe.
Tell me about Joshian newsletter.

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Speaker 7 (21:39):
Johan.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
We appreciate that. And by the way, for the record,
I don't blame you for ruining baseball. Baseball does a
good job of that by itself. Thank you, Joe, talk
to you next week. Thanks brother Josh and Joshian dot com.
Go check it out. It's just it's fascinating stuff, it
really is. I love him explaining that it does it
so well. You know, he he does do it well.
It is crazy though, I mean, right now, the Mariner

(22:02):
model is, as Joe's describing everything, he said, it follows.
It follows the model, and a lot of other teams
are doing it too. So that's the other one. We
just went through the list the teams, All those teams
at the top, like the top ten teams in baseball.
I think nine out of ten that in terms of
home runs are division leaders or right there. Seattle's like
the outlier at eight and eight.

Speaker 8 (22:19):
So if you're a fan, that's like complaining out there's
too many home runs or the marriage is striking out
too much, or there's not enough balls in play.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, you're right. We didn't get into We probably maybe two.
I do it next week, a week after we did
this last year. Remember we did this last year. We
said what is what are the numbers to look for?
Like it used when I was growing up, And we're
playing baseball. Yeah, and even watching Major League baseball. Hey,
if you were hitting two fifty or above, two fifty
was average and above that was great. Up, Yeah, that's
not the case number. So we'll kind of go back
through those numbers. It kind of gives I think it

(22:45):
gives good context when you're watching a game. It's great
to say, here's what this guy's hitting. What are those
numbers left? Joe, give us those numbers.

Speaker 8 (22:52):
I think they shouldn't even show the batting average anymore.
I honestly don't think they should.

Speaker 9 (22:55):
Yeah, I think that's I mean, I want to know.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
I know it's an old school number that people kind
of association. It's the problem. Well, we don't have time
for this good discussion, but it's it's there's a lot
of numbers in sports that used to mean something that
maybe don't need Moore, but still are relevant because that's
the majority of the people are able to relate to it.

Speaker 8 (23:15):
But if you start showing the other one, they might
start to relate to the newer.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Right.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
I mean, a thousand yard rusher used to be a
really big deal. Yeah, you play eighteen games in the NFL, now, Yeah,
that's what is it? Seventy five eight yards a game
something like that.

Speaker 8 (23:26):
How often do they show the total rushing yards anymore
when you're playing a game.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
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Speaker 2 (24:03):
You should probably also not forget to check the mic podcast.
One day ago, Steve fell put together the first round
mock draft. Now we want people to listen to that podcast.
But can you can you can you tell us who
you had Seattle taking you or Sam?

Speaker 10 (24:22):
I had Jehad Campbell, the linebacker out of Alabama to
the Seahawks in the first round.

Speaker 8 (24:27):
Okay, that's the first time I've seeing that one.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Okay, do explain, sir.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
So Campbell.

Speaker 10 (24:34):
I think there's a lot of teams picking in the
teams that have just general defensive needs, particularly along the
defensive line. But I think Campbell is good enough that
teams like the Falcons or Cardinals that could use a
defensive line upgrade might consider Campbell right three down linebacker.
But and then I get to Seattle at pick eighteen,
and Sam's trying to push me though, you gotta draft
a guard, you gotta you.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Gotta hit the need because they never do it, and
this is the year they're finally gonna do it.

Speaker 10 (24:57):
I'm like, no, no, no, you pick best player available.
There will be guards available with the two second round picks.
They'll be some into your offensive line talent. And I
just love the idea of Campbell next to Ernest Jones.
I know Tyrese Knight played pretty well, you know, down
the stretch or whatever, but I think Campbell is just
like an old school outside linebacker. Chasen run really athletic.

(25:19):
He's a good pass rusher as a blitzer. You know,
he was an edge rusher coming out of high school.
I don't think he's an edge rusher at the next level.
I know some people said, hey, third down, let him
do that, but he's just a versatile player, and I
think by far the best linebacker in this draft. And
so I think there's just really good three down linebacker
value in joh Hot Campbell. I think you'd be worth
it at eighteen.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Well, and let me just point out too real quick, Sam,
your buddy Sam, Steve Plosolo was correct, like, just because
there's a need does not mean John Schneider is going
to acknowledge that in the first round, Like that's.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
No, and he says, we know John doesn't want to
do that.

Speaker 10 (25:52):
And then it's like, well, we don't want to do
what we did last year where it's like the process
was wonderful, right Christon Haynes and the third and then
just didn't work out.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
Right.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
So that's where Sam's point is.

Speaker 10 (26:01):
I'm like, no, you stick with it, right you it's
the right move to get Byron Murphy last year, and
you keep taking second and third round guards and at
some point.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
You have an offensive line.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
They did take Murphy last year, They've got Leonard Williams
as well, they re signed Jaron Reid, but they can
always you can. You can never have enough big boys
in the middle of a defensive line. So let's talk
about some of those guys, I'm gonna skip over Mason Graham.
He's a consensus first round pick from Michigan, and ever
I think everyone kind of feels like, like, you know,
he'll be gone. It's probably not'd be a stretch to
that point. Let's talk about his teammate. We'll start there,

(26:30):
Kenneth Grant from Michigan. Probably what a tweener first second
round guy.

Speaker 10 (26:36):
Yeah, I mean Mike I Sam loves Kenneth Grant, so
he would take him maybe top ten, just while we're
talking about him. But Grant, you know, he's a big
boy who can move right. There's a bunch of players
in this draft. Grant's one of them that there. I
forget what he was he's listed three twenty three thirty.
I mean he's he's a big nose tackle type of body,
but doesn't always win like a nose tackle. He's not
that old school stack and shed type of player. He

(26:58):
actually wins with quickness. That's why I think a lot
of people really like Kenneth Grant because he's he's huge
and moves extremely well on the field.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
So he's intriguing. Man.

Speaker 10 (27:08):
I think I think the evaluations for him as a
three hundred and thirty pounder with quickness.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
You could get him.

Speaker 10 (27:13):
As you know, people wanted to take him in Jordan
Davis territory. He went thirteenth overall to the Eagles a
couple of years ago, all the way down to the
bottom end of the first So I think Grant's.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
As a fantastic player.

Speaker 10 (27:22):
He could be good against the run, and he could
be disruptive as a pass rusher as well, which you
don't have many of those guys at six four three thirty.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah, And I think they wanted a little more pass
rushing out of Bier Murphy last year, which they don't
really get. But I mean his first year he battles
some injuries hamstring and stuff like that, and probably seeing
I what would expect to see a jump from him
this year. Derek Harmon from Oregon interesting guy six four
three thirteen.

Speaker 10 (27:46):
Yeah, so he's more of a pass rush pass rush
first type of guy, really disruptive at Oregon.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Transferred to Michigan State.

Speaker 10 (27:53):
I think he led the nation in pressures from my
old friends at PFF. As far as interier defensive line goes.
Another guy, I mean, three hundred plus pounds long, quick
has some pad level issues that show up in the
run game. So he's another guy that's not really hold
the point in the run game type, but he could
be disruptive.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
But I really liked him.

Speaker 10 (28:13):
I think he's one of the better pure interior pass
rushers in the draft.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
It but sounds like he pair well with like Leonard
Williams and Byron Murphy be a nice.

Speaker 10 (28:22):
Absolutely yeah, yeahah, he's probably I think Harmon's a better
pass rusher than Grant and he's probably up there with,
say Walter Nolan in some of the gap among the best.
You know, Mason Graham the best all around package, but
Harmon might be that next best pass rusher on the interior.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Well hit on Walter Nolan from Ole miss hit on
him because's a little smaller at six three and three hundred,
I say small, six three, three hundred, but the position
we're talking about a little smaller.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
All the other guys we're talking are six four sixty five.
They're long.

Speaker 10 (28:47):
Nolan former five star, more of your penetrator type, but
similar right, really good, really good pass rusher, disruptive run defender.
So they all win in similar ways with just different
body types. I like Walton Nolan quite a bit he's
and really productive. Did it across two different schools. Ole
Miss has been, you know, just taking dudes in the
transfer port transfer portal the last few years, stacking up

(29:09):
on stocking up on defensive lineman. Nolan was one of them.
I like him a lot. I mean, I think the
four guys we've talked about so far, I'd be happy
with any of those guys as first rounders.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Let's maybe jump down the second round, Ohio States. Is
it tay Leek Williams. He's he. I like his size,
I mean a little a little more close to the
ground at six to two three d and twenty nine pounds.

Speaker 10 (29:30):
Yeah, the low center of gravity plays, I mean he is.
He might be the best run stopper out of all
of them. Again, Mason Graham, I think does everything well.
Tyleerk Williams is more of an old school hold the
point type of nose tackle, tough to move in the
run game. I don't think he adds nearly as much
as a pass rusher as the other ones. So that's
going to be you know, as we went through our
two routes second round of my mock draft here today,

(29:52):
when I was trying to figure out how do I separate, Like,
if I wanted a defensive lineman and I'm looking at
Tai Leak, I'd be willing. You know, you have to
be willing to give up some pass rush have him
as more of an early down type of player. But
that's valuable in today's NFL, being able to play the
run with fewer bodies in the box.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
I think Tyler gives that ability. He's really tough to move,
He's disruptive in the run game.

Speaker 10 (30:11):
So I think that's his biggest skill set that he's
bringing to the NFL.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
And second round makes a lot of sense for Tyler.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
All Right, I'm gonna we'll wrap it up. Because you've
watched the Mike McDonald defense in Baltimore, you watch the
Mike McDonald defense in Seattle. I'll throw a few names
at you, and these would all be day two ish guys.
Do you tell me which one you think might be
the best fit for a Mike McDonald defense. Of the
remaining guys, you get the Williams kid from Ohio State,
Chamar Turner from Texas A and m Darius Alexander Toledo

(30:40):
Big Alfred Collins, Texas. M Murphy's teammate I believe TJ.
Sanders South Carolina. Which of those guys you think would
fit what Mike McDonald wants in the middle of that
defensive line.

Speaker 10 (30:51):
I would say Darius Alexander from Toledo in part. I
just like him the best if he uses his hands
well and he could be disruptive whether it's McDonald defense
or not.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
TJ.

Speaker 10 (31:02):
Sanders is interesting undersized pass rush are I think not
sure if that's a perfect fit. Alfred Collins is interesting though,
because he's another guy that's that's pretty big.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
He's is how big he is. Yeah, there's a.

Speaker 10 (31:15):
Lot of players Dion Walker from Kentucky similar long body type.
But there's a lot of players like that in this draft.
I say a lot, like there's four. You know, that's
a lot for in a draft to have six, five,
three thirty. So that's what's intriguing about Alfred Collins. If
you think you need that longer body type time of
an old school five technique body. I think Alfred Collins

(31:37):
can do some damage. But of that group, Darius Alexander
from Toledo love him. I think he's a good fit
in the second round for sure.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
I'm looking at Alfred Collins and I'm thinking to myself,
Leonard Williams becomes such a huge part of this defense.
Last year, I mean had just an incredible season. Similar
body type in at least in terms of the measurables
with Alfred Collins, and maybe an insurance policy as much
as a lean on on a Leonard Williams.

Speaker 6 (32:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (32:00):
I mean, look, we just saw the Eagles win the
Super Bowl. And they didn't just invent this this year.
This is a decade plus of Howie Roseman saying I
literally cannot have too many defensive linemen. You can't have it.
You just can't have too much depth there. So it
makes a lot of sense, right. It not only helps
strategically win a game within a game to keep guys crash,
it also, as you're mentioning, gives you fallback options replacements.

(32:25):
The Eagles have done a great job of replacing guys
and not having desperate needs on the defensive line because
that is their identity, that's how they build their team.
So I think it makes a ton of sense to
just stock up on defensive line depth every year.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
All right, So check the mic podcast Thirty Third Teams,
Steve Pells all All and Sam Monson thet they got
the same. So you did the first round yesterday, so
today's second round is that you just.

Speaker 10 (32:47):
Said we did the second round earlier today. I loved
the Seahawks Standwich pick there. I love those two. I
think they could do some damage in this draft. Yeah,
we did that today.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
So go listen to that and you can see what
the guys came up with. YEA, every year we think
there's gonna be moves and trades and then old Schneider
doesn't do something. In the years we think he's gonna stand,
Patty does do something. But they've got so all those
picks in this on day two, it's gonna be an interesting,
uh be an interesting twenty four thirty hours or so
with the day one Day two picks for Seattle. But
we'll talk to you next week on the on on

(33:17):
what will be the day befo, as Pete Carroll would say,
it'll be the day before the day before the draft
next week when we touch base. So we'll talk to
you then.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
We're getting we're getting close. I love it. I love it. Thanks.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
There you go. That's Steve pelos Alo thirty thirteen, joining
us here on the Beacon Plumbing Hot line. We'll take
a break, come back Daily power Play. Busy day for
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Speaker 9 (34:05):
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Speaker 11 (34:09):
You know, to give them you know, I've obviously experienced
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to give them a chance to see what it's like
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That's that's why you play hockey. That those games are
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Speaker 2 (34:26):
That's obviously our goal will get back to that. So
Cracking captain Jordan Eberley this morning talking about getting back
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an ESPN game we should mention as well, so no
local television. The Kraken did make some news today. They've
announced sweeping changes to their ticket plans for season ticket holders. Listen,
the nuts and bolts are pretty simple. It's ticket prices

(35:12):
will be reduced in eighty percent of the season ticket packages,
depending on where you're sitting. Another ten percent will see
a flat no increase, and a handful will but it's
it's basically ninety percent either the same or less for
next year for season tickets. This isn't start contrast to
both the Seahawks and the Mariners, who have raised ticket

(35:32):
prices over the last few years regardless of regardless, and
this is not and pretty large increases. Yeah, I don't
know that, I can't speak to it, but but yeah,
it sounds like it's been significant. And now I think
what that does prove. Much like with the Kraken, oftentimes
it's not our reaction to success or lack thereof all

(35:56):
three teams have missed the playoffs two straight years. The
economics of it, can you get more money and so forth,
The Mariners and the Seahawks are probably not as concerned
with growing their fan base outside of their diehards. In
other words, like Seahawk games are still the highest rated

(36:16):
eighteen Seahawk games are still in the top thirty of
the highest rated television programs in the city of Seattle
every year, period and a story. They do fine. In fact, yeah,
the preseason games in there is probably twenty out of thirty.
But the Mariners have a long fifty year history. I
don't know, they haven't won a lot of games, but
that's what it is. Cracking are new The Kraken are

(36:39):
playing at a higher percentage of capacity than all but
a handful of teams in the NHL. They've sold out
every game since they've been here. So this is not
a reaction to all, God, we're not selling tickets. I
brought up yesterday. We were talking about this the night
that the Mariners had their home opener Opening Day. Yes,
they played a six to forty game. It was also

(37:02):
Sweet sixteen, day one of the NCAA tournament, and we
had a cracking game. That night, I climbing played arena
and the place was full.

Speaker 7 (37:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Now when I say full, yeah, there's scattered empty seats.
Most of those are the corporate seats, you know, down
below centrice. I'd made a point of looking around the
upper deck. It was amazing. I was, I was blown away.
I thought this might be the game that looks kind
of like kind of looks like a preseason game. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
And I think when you said growing your fan base,
people think more butts in seats, right, But that's.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Not what they're doing. And yes, it's a great point,
it's not what it is. It's not growing, Yeah, it's
getting more new people, casual hockey fans. The casual like
your dad's gonna go tonight, absolutely right, so like your dadda, yeah, Dan, grandpa.
Like that's what it's about. It's about getting a new.

Speaker 9 (37:47):
Fan base well and making it more accessible too.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah. And they right for families, Yes, they're going to
have more family packs. The thing I thought that was
the best. And this is if you're a season ticket
holder and you're you know, you're just hearing about this
and you're thinking about renewing or not renewing or whatever.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
It is.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
You know, it comes in different years of contracts. The
thing that was I think is if I was a
season ticular or I think I would be the best
twenty five percent off all food and beverage.

Speaker 12 (38:13):
Which alcohol alcohol, which is rare. Again, that's a that's
a discount, that's a massive discs quarter off. All of
that makes it regular price essentially.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Absolutely, So they're doing great, they're doing good things. They
and and this is a response to them listening to
their fan base. Yes, they send out, you know, surveys
and ask for feedback. Two years ago it was we
can't watch the games or only on root sports. We
cut the cord, we don't want to watch root sports,
we hate Root sports, blah blah blah. So what do

(38:50):
they do. They created their own television network, the Crack
and Hockey Network. Got to deal with a local TV
station in King slash Kong, the Technique Group, and also
with Prime Video. So between Prime Video which pretty much
everybody has Prime and sports fans, especially now because a
little thing called Thursday Night Football which is on Prime
Video exclusively or over the air. Hell, even if you

(39:14):
have an antenna, you can watch King and Kong YEP,
They've tripled their television audience this year, tripled it, streaming massive, massive,
massive TV numbers. For a product that has been below average,
they're one of the most I'm not talking about TV product,
it's been really good. The product on the on the ice,

(39:35):
the TV product is damn good. And they you'll learn
that tonight watching ESPN, folks. Yeah, seriously, geez.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
They are one of the more proactive teams I've ever
and we have the opportunity to talk to management there
and we get to know what happens behind the scenes.
They are unbelievably proactive. They they haven't seen anything like it.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
That's a lot of wiki thing and it trickles down
victory to bonus those guys. But yeah, I mean, and
you know when you but when you have a guy
like Liwicki who walks around the arena during the games,
not during the games, he's a freak. He has to
watch every second, but like intermissions and preimposed talking to
everyone he wants to know. And I love that. I
think it's I think it's you know, some people can say, hey,

(40:15):
we listen to our fans. Well, it's one thing to listen,
it's nothing to act on the list absolutely, and that's
what they did. So really cool thing what they're doing.
You'll hear more about it coming up. But he's going
to join Softy in Dick late this afternoon. I think
four oclocks. All right, Yeah, well that'll be a gone show.

Speaker 9 (40:29):
That disappointment listening. I will make sure I'm in my
car at that point.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Honestly, a little hint here, Fain, you can just take
that segment off because between lie Wiki and Softy, I
don't know, you'll lose all the oxygen in the room.
A lot of words, a lot of lots and lots
of words. Now Tom will come on and he'll explain,
like Anders said, exactly what's going on. But Jess, you're right,
very proactive organization. Good for them doing that, all right,
take a break. Not proactive, just a dipstick is our

(40:52):
good friend, John lined. He'll join us. We'll have to
ask about playing game tonight for Steph and the Warriors.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
We'll do that.

Speaker 6 (40:59):
Come up.

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Speaker 6 (43:07):
I'm you know what, just off of just just listening
to you for the last minute, A few things pop
in mind. First of all, the Big Boys guy just
said somebody is proudly sponsoring your show. I doubt it.
Remember one number.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
It's a it's a casino there. Don't Worrymber number two.

Speaker 6 (43:25):
I got something for you that most people won't remember.
You just spoke of a young lady is six foot
six in the w NBA draft. Remember a young lady
by the name.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Of Margot wherever they were, and that was a sty line.

Speaker 6 (43:40):
Reporter Utah Stars and I was a sideline reporter and
I remember having to interview her and it was it
was just I felt like a small child. I mean,
it was just like she is seven foot two woman,
just towering over you, and it was like, Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (43:54):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (43:55):
And then what's that You a sideline reporter for that?

Speaker 3 (43:58):
I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Were you having to do that?

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (44:01):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (44:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (44:02):
For a summer they they they enticed was the first
summer that they ever had w NBA there, and they said,
tell you what, stay inside. And it's way obviously before.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
The WNBA really caught fire, but it was a it
was an.

Speaker 6 (44:13):
Interesting dynamic to have female basketball in Utah the first
year and it's over a summer. So you're thinking to yourself,
there's eight people in here and it's summertime, and I
really like to be outside. They're like, we'll entice you.
You might get a job of this. And then the
Jats are like, get out of here.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
We hate you.

Speaker 6 (44:26):
We just we needed somebody to do something for us.
But oh, and then you mentioned the playing games. Oh
my gosh, what just what an absolute stop right.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
We're going to get to them. We're going to get
to that in a second. We're gonna get to that
a second. I had to look up because when you okay,
they when they drafted this woman last night, the crack,
the crack of the storm, the storm, uh, the six
foot six, yeah, Dominique, But I guess she can. This
is how we sell it these days. She can dunk.
I don't care. She's skilled. Watching the highlight, she looks
pretty skilled. But we'll see. I mean, it's it's a

(44:57):
she's eighteen or nineteen as a grown woman's league. I look.
I had to look up the margoddic thing because I
remember she passed away at a really young age. She
died at twenty eleven. She was just thirty seven years old.
I went, I didn't have to work those games, thank goodness,
because that was you, uh with the voice with the
voice of the Utah Stars. David Locke.

Speaker 6 (45:22):
You should hurt him back then. He was making he
was making eight people in the Delta Center sound like
it was Game seven of the NBA Finals. Always look
over where he's broadcasting.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
By bro settles down, you can flow down.

Speaker 6 (45:33):
The first two points of the the first two points
of the game, Tammy Reese was a layup. It was
like god lock and I know you're trying to get
the jazz gig, but down, dude, Like, where are you
gonna leave anything? You're a play by play guy, Dude,
you can't make the first two points of the game
sound like Game seven of the NBA Finals. Oh no,

(45:54):
he did make yourself some space to go somewhere.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Man, I'm looking at that. I'm looking at the roster
because I think, let's see Margo di Dick. Who else
was on that team. Wasn't Jennifer Easy on that team?
Or was she on the second year the great Stanford player?

Speaker 6 (46:08):
I don't she was there. Yeah, it was a bunch
of no names. They were like an expansive team. I'm
sure we're getting huge Rady through this discussion.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
But well, I just remember, I just remember Mark. I
remember Margot because seven she was probably one of the
nicest people on the planet too, and so sad that
she does such at such a young age. But yeah,
all right, we move on. Oh, Keith Starboard, I knew
there was somebody here locals. Kate starbourd is a local
legend here in Seattle. If you played for you guys,
you should have known that you were the sideline reporter.
You should probably know that stuff.

Speaker 6 (46:36):
You know, I didn't you think I was doing a
lot of research back in those days, in the middle
of summer.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
No dud, just show up, show up, yeah whatever, how
much your family? Nothing, just came on by exactly John
Lon with us. So yeah, it's the dumbest thing in
the world, isn't it, This whole playing stuff. What are
we doing here? I mean, like, how how jacked is
Golden State? Golden State, I don't know, multiple pot time

(47:02):
champions Steve Kerr dram on staff and they're playing in
a play in game against the Memphis Grizzlies. Come on, man, well,
you know.

Speaker 6 (47:10):
What's amazing about it is you know, you think of
this team that's gone on this great, big run and
won all these championships. This is the fourth time they've
been in the play in they're a playing team every
single year, and everybody got excited around here. Jimmy Butler
came and they were like twenty one and six over
one stretch. But you know, they just they're they're not great,
and if they get knocked out in this whole thing,
you know, heads could roll, and I know Curry can
get this, and it's just that it's one of those

(47:31):
things like I'll be at the game tonight and I'm
going to cover the game and if they win, then
you know they get into the actual playoffs. But I
have more of an issue, and that's I think this
is what you're asking a big picture item. Is everyone's
trying to emulate in the NFL and you just can't.
It's like the Baseball's tried.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
To do it.

Speaker 6 (47:45):
Oh, one game playoff or a three game series. Yeah, oh,
it's the playing game, and it's it's not gonna get
huge ratings. I mean, Steph Curry is a magnet for
some decent ratings, but they're not what they used to be.
So they're just they're cheaping in the season. There's eighty
two games. If you can't make the top, you know,
there's eight teams to get in the playoffs. That's the
way it goes.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Like, let's go well, I mean, just look at the numbers.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Look at it.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
So in the well, but in the just in terms
of record, like you said, there's eighty two games to
prove yourself. So nine and ten in the Eastern Conference
of Chicago and Miami, both teams, both teams are are
well below five hundred nine and ten in the West
Sacramento below five hundred and Dallas that tried to lose
like they Dallas has probably pissed. They're in it, Like

(48:28):
didn't they try to who's after they traded Luca, right,
and they're in it and they're in a third. I mean,
I'm stun Phoenix didn't get in or Portland because they're
right there. They're only a couple of games behind. For
God's sake, It's just it's ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (48:39):
I mean, I guess people in Seattle would be are
probably driving around the three people listening after our WNA discus,
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Might be two.

Speaker 6 (48:46):
But the but you know, okay, the seven and nine
Sea auction, the Beast quake, and they be the Saints.
I understand that. But but the NFL has a a
system in which it's just one and done and it's natural,
and that's the way it goes. You can't play a
seven game series in the NFL, so every other sport
is trying to recreate it. And it's look, do you
deserve to get in after one sixty two or you

(49:07):
deserve in the NBA to get in after eighty two,
or you know, hockey the same kind of a situation.
It's like, just let's play the playoffs. I swear they're
good enough, but it must be that they just think
that the sport isn't good enough. And we've got to
tie a giant pork chop around you know, the neck,
so that the fans will actually tune in. So here's
Steph Curry. And if they lose tonight, then they play
a you know, a game in which they may not

(49:28):
make the playoffs. But anybody down here anyway doesn't deserve
to be in the playoffs. I mean, this looks like
moving on, we want to see the meat of the schedule.
I don't even like the first round of the playoffs
in most in most instances and professional sports, let's get
down to the quarters and the you know, conference finals,
and that's when everybody gets excited.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Well I would. Here's the thing, like, like, this is
how it should look right now, right it should be
Oklahoma City against Memphis. That would be the one that
would be the one to eight matchup. And Memphis has
lost Jalen Wells for the season, so they're down well starter,
So you know you would think, okay, ok see, for
being number one, you get just gonna roll through. That's fine, Houston.

(50:05):
Golden State would be your second round matchup starting right now.
And the Rockets we know are good, but nobody like
you don't want to see a seven seed Golden State
if you're the Rockets in an up and coming team, right, like,
what that would be an intriguing matchup. Why do we
have to waste our time with Golden State having to
beat Memphis and then they're in that's great? Or if
they lose to Memphis, now you've got to beat the

(50:26):
winner of what Sacramento Dallas? Is that how that works?
And I mean it's just really yes, yeah, well.

Speaker 6 (50:30):
And again it's I say this all the time. What
sports are is now It used to be much better, aveiled,
but basically you've got the wolf in sheep's clothing and
the sheep is the sport itself and oh my gosh,
we love watching baseball games of football, games of basketball.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
And hockey and all these different things.

Speaker 6 (50:46):
With the reality is it's all about the business side
of things. I mean, like you just you look at
the situation for like Dallas, for example, in the Adelson's
buy the Mavericks from Mark Cuban and Mark Cuban and
just had it over twenty five years and just he
admitted it in the recent interview, like he just had
it with the fans and the getting beat up over
certain things and everything. Even got blamed for the Luca thing,
and he didn't even trade him. But the reality was

(51:07):
is that you know, he made all this money and
now that Addison's are like, we don't care about Dallas.
We don't know anything about Dallas. And so Dallas is
about football twenty four to seven, three sixty five and
they trade the only marketable asset they have on the
Mavericks and no one's going to pay attention. But they
did it because the guy is stupid, didn't want to
pay some guy a bunch of money. It's just everything
is about business and it's veiled as a sport it's
just recently. We've gotten this so much over time that oh,

(51:30):
we see it now, and there's very rarely somebody like
Paul Allen wanted to win for the Seahawks. Joe Lake
up the owner of the Warriors, wants to win. You know,
all these other owners, probably ninety percent of the owners
out there, they don't care. They treat it like a business.
You know that.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
I think our baseball team knows that very well.

Speaker 6 (51:46):
Up here, you nailed it. You're the Mariners don't want
to win, No, they don't. They they want it like
I'll give you a great example up here. I think
I told you this. Last week. They got a bunch
of money from selling ten percent of the Giants, and
the first thing out of the president of the Giants
San Francisco Giant's mouth was, We're going to fix Willie
May's plasm. We're going to make the sweet snicer. Nothing
about baseball operations, nothing about making the baseball team better,

(52:08):
nothing about Latin players are having a bigger presence in
Japan or doing any of these kind of things to
make the actual team better. This is one of their businesses.
I remember Larry H. Miller sold the Utah Jazz. His
son Greg took over the Jazz and I asked him
about it and he said, this is one of our
fifty businesses. That's what he said. I go to no different,

(52:29):
he goes, No, it's no different. So't they're not going
to overpay like we all think. They're in it to
win it. The reality is their bottom line, their wins
and losses is dollars and cents. That was what the
owners are about.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
That was different, though, John, because Larry Miller wanted to
win right like he was because he was he was
a fan, kind of like Paul Allen was a fan
with the Blazers and the Seahawks, more so the Blazers. Now,
it doesn't always work. I mean I remember we were
there when Paul Allen used to watch all the pre
draft workouts into Walleton down there at practice facility. And

(53:01):
if Paul, if Paul liked the guy, they drafted the guy,
Quintel Woods, Martinel Webster, we can go on and on.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Yeah, I remember all those guys.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Yeah, it's like, really like, Paul, are you sure? It's
like no, no, man, that's the but but you know,
he wanted to wear he cared. He was a fan.
I like that, like you want to want er to
be a fan.

Speaker 6 (53:19):
No, there's no doubt. And then and you know, Jerry
Jones kind of skirts that line. Now for those in
the know, Stephen Jones does everything and just lets his
dad like hang around. It's like, okay, old man, you
know whatever we're gonna draft we want now, we're not
drafting Johnny Manziel, but thanks very much. But the greatest
Paul Allen's story I have is, so this we're I'm
covering a shoot around, which they hardly have anymore in
the NBA because the players can't bother themselves to get

(53:41):
out of bed at ten thirty in the morning, Are
you kidding me? So they Paul Allen's had a shoot around, right,
and they're doing the dancer team for that night, and
there's a they decided, the Blazers decided, this is way
back in the day, that there were gonna be a
couple of male dancers in there. And Paul alm was
standing there and we were kind of looking at his
reaction to the whole thing. So that night comes around
and we see the guys and they're doing it in

(54:01):
the warm ups and all of a sudden you know,
the first quarter break comes and the girls come out
to dance and we're like, where are the dudes? And
come to find out, the Paul Allen saw that in
the pre in the shoot around the.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Way, no that.

Speaker 6 (54:16):
And the guy showed up in their uniforms and they're
looking up good and I'm thinking, Okay, see what this
looks like in the first quarter. And again this is
back in the day.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
So the guy they all of.

Speaker 6 (54:25):
A sudden, the girls come running out and the guys
are standing on the sideline kind of dejected looks on
their face, like what happened? And I asked a guy
later on, they're like, Paul Allen wasn't down the bat.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
You know what his team man, he's right, he's right
in the checks. He can do whatever the hell he wants. Man,
Paul G. You do whatever you want.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Paul G.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
You do whatever you want. I built the building, man, he's.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
Got a little apartment in there.

Speaker 6 (54:52):
He's got the you know, he's got the court side
seat right under the hoop. And he's like, he's like, no,
we're not We're not good.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
I always wanted to go I always and people have
never bring the Motor Center. You want to call it.
If you ever go there and you look at one end,
very top behind a basket, like the top end, there's
like this, you can it looks like an apartment building
or an apartment hanging from the roof. And that's exactly
what it is.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
Like.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
It's Paul Allen had an apartment in there.

Speaker 9 (55:20):
I was just there last month.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
You got to look for that.

Speaker 9 (55:22):
Well, okay, I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
I always wanted to go up there. Man, did you
You never got up there?

Speaker 7 (55:28):
Did you?

Speaker 2 (55:28):
They don't anybody up there?

Speaker 6 (55:29):
You're kidding me. Maybe take a step in that direction
where you're going.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
I'm like, I'm just walking.

Speaker 6 (55:34):
I'm just walking out. I'm leaving. They're like, okay, we
thought you were walking towards the apartment. We just we
just want to make sure so you know you are
not welcome. I'm like, yeah, I know, I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Wasn't like an wasn't Monica Sellius in that apartment once?

Speaker 6 (55:48):
God listen to Yeah you're going back?

Speaker 2 (55:50):
No, but I'm right, aren't I right?

Speaker 3 (55:53):
That was true?

Speaker 4 (55:53):
Right?

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Yeah? Mons up there?

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (55:58):
Yeah, they're just friends.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Yeah, they're just friends. They just had a glass of
wine before the game up there.

Speaker 6 (56:02):
I'm not telling any story about grunting or anything like that.
That's where I'm going.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
No, of course not. You're better than that. You're way
better than that.

Speaker 6 (56:12):
I wouldn't do that. I thought, that's right where you're going.
I was gonna just save the show. I thought that's
you know, you were gonna go down our north in
an avenue that we're you know, we're just trying to
stay in our late here.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Truly truly appreciate you for doing that, John Lon, joining
us for coming on the show. No, someone's got to.
I mean, just just tries every day work.

Speaker 6 (56:30):
Of your show. You have a conscience of the show,
Like everybody's got a roll on the show. Do you
have a conscience?

Speaker 13 (56:37):
I don't think it's and Jazz basically as just on
fire constantly. Yeah, hey is this right or there? The
Warriors actually three in the playing games, is that right?

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (56:49):
They've never won. They never won. Wow, that's why. Like
they lost to San Antonio, who basically had their their
bags packed, but they decided, you know, things go. It's like, well,
you know, guy, we snak and we got our ups
in the car, but god, they're letting us stay around
in the game. So we might as well win. And
then and then they lost that and it dropped him
into the playing game, so you.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Always they're not very good. It's it's different in the
NBA because like guys are rich and they just have
somebody move their stuff for him. But when I work
for the Grizzlies, the minor league hockey team in Utah,
we get we get to a playoff game and it's
like do or die or whatever, and dudes literally have
U hauls in the parking lot, like like if you
could bet on it and be like, I'm so like
right now, it is one hundred percent long beach ice

(57:27):
dogs in this game. Can I find some wage trip somewhere?

Speaker 3 (57:31):
The ice is so great?

Speaker 2 (57:33):
These guys have their U hauls and their trailers in
the parking lot, that would be that is such.

Speaker 6 (57:40):
Great inside information that you could have bet made a
ton of money. Oh you like you like see your
you see your goalie getting out of the U haul
and you're like, yeah, I'm pretty sure that you know
that's not it.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Yeah he's got his trailer and yeah, yeah, I think
I'm out of here. Hey how's your uh, how's your
seven round? John Lund unleashed mock draft for the forty
nine ers.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
Look, I don't.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
I guess that's the only negative of doing a YouTube show,
because sometimes you have to be democratic or on the radio,
you just say what you want and people don't like it,
and you know you're like whatever, it's the infernestia whatever.
And but like on YouTube, in sex, you have to
do these things sometimes, so people just, where's your mock draft?
Where's your mock draft? What I look like mel Kiper Junior, Like, okay,
I'll do it, and I'll play along with the thing,

(58:22):
but honestly, it's the It is the dumbest exercise in history.
Can you can you explain it to me? Give me
a give me the explanation why. And I'm the same
way that every mock draft I see, I don't even care.
It could be like the five year old kid on
the block next to be Jimmy has a mock draft.
I must click on mock draft, like this morning, mel
Kiper and whatever his name is, Field Yates. I don't

(58:44):
even know where the hell Field the eight came from.
Like they have a three round mock draft and I
don't want to click on it, but there I go.
I click on it. It's the insider, So I hate
the insider, and then I do it and I want
and I read it and I know the only thing
I do know is that they're not going to draft
the guys that Kuiper says they're gonna draft. So there's that.
But still it's like I click on every dumb I

(59:04):
clicked on a Bleacher Report one today, I clicked on
a PFF one today. They're all just dumb and they've
picked like every player imaginable. So of course every you
did one point five point eight point, they're up to
like fifty drafts each, so it's like, why I picked
that guy and mocked three point seven two. It's like,
no kidding, you picked every guy. But I can't come on,

(59:25):
You've put on a ton of like Rob rang.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Well, Rob's our guy. Rob's on every week with ye Like, but.

Speaker 6 (59:31):
You click on all these dumb mock drafts and they
don't mean anything, but it's a huge industry.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Well Rob, I just I just asked Rob, Who's who
is the extra pick? And I don't know, I'm not
gonna take click. I don't know who knows line. It's
Gray's Abel, buddy, it's the it's John. It's John Schneider.
When was the last time he picked and pick that
anybody had predicted, you know, like never good point Russell
or urban rule. Russell Okung in twenty ten was probably
the only one that's like, oh, they need a left

(59:58):
tackle Russe. There's two one there, Williams and Russell Okun.
And Williams went right before Russell. It's like, okay, well,
Okoon's the guy boom. Funny how that was his only
on line pick that ever made a made a Pro Bowl.
Yeah along the way, By the way, was that of
all your clicks today, was that the ones you felt
the worst about and the dirtiest about or were there
other ones?

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Oh? The things that I do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure you've clicked on worse than
those mock drafts today.

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
I know you.

Speaker 6 (01:00:24):
Oh no, it's just show research. I don't know what
you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
You tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Let's till you tell your wife when you got to
take your computer and get it disinfected. The viruses are
coming through. I was just clicking on a mock draft,
I swear for who bleechser report. Sure sure it was.

Speaker 6 (01:00:44):
Yeah, some dude that everybody's got like eight different guys
that do him.

Speaker 8 (01:00:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:00:49):
I just that's a good point on Seattle though. And
it's the same thing with the Niners. I mean, for
for everything that the Niners have done in the you know,
the draft, getting a Fred Warner in the third round
and a Party in the seventh, they're only good. Two
first round have been pretty obvious. Boasa was the first
round pick and he resigned and I could they really
don't want anymore. They really have one good first round
pick ever, but they do well in the later rounds.
They just the first round. It's kind of like Seattle, right,

(01:01:11):
I mean in the first round, like, oh god, you know,
and it's just I mean, Jack and Smith and Jigs
turned into a good one. They've had some good ones.
But like you said, Russell o' koon, was that Earl
Thomas in that same draft?

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Well, and everyone everyone here, everyone here was pissed because
because Pete didn't and John didn't take Taylor Mays, who
is a USC guy, he's from from and he's from Seattle.
You guys taking Earl Thomas? Who Thomas?

Speaker 6 (01:01:36):
The Niners tip Taylor May's in the second round and
he bombed.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Yeah, he was ver.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
Yeah, it was. It was not good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
What do you remember about the Amy Herrero days that
with the Utah Stars w NBA team? Were those fun?

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
Do you remember heard?

Speaker 6 (01:01:52):
I can't say that I do. I remember there was
a there was there was one girl and her name
was Tammy Reese. That's the one I remember her. And
she just used to get her She was very, very attractive,
and she just used to She would run up and
down the floor and just get harassed, just constantly. And
I know that they've taken you know, they've taken care
of that. Now, this was a long long time agoin

(01:02:14):
Tammy Reese t A M. I I think R E
I S S. I think is what her name was.
She was out of Virginia. She was a guard out
of Virginia, and she was she was really good, but
she was really attractive and so she would run up
and down the court. And let's just say the eight
people that were attending those games back in the first
year of the w n B A, I feel bad
for the date.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Well, like cat calls, it was like.

Speaker 6 (01:02:35):
Being on It's like when a pretty girl walks by,
like a construction down or something.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Probably the guy harassing her the most was the sideline guy.
So your single back then if I remember right, oh yeah, just.

Speaker 6 (01:02:48):
Before I made my fatal errors of multi divorces, multiple payouts,
all those kinds of things. That man, those days are
so nice. Yeah, calling people on the sidelines.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
And when it was her, it was her stream day.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Someday we'll talk about how you met your first wife
because that.

Speaker 6 (01:03:06):
Yeah, never dip your pen in the company. And we
can pretty much say it that way. Those girls that
are there for promotional purposes only you're not supposed to
marry them. You're not supposed to take them home to
meet mom. They're going to take all your money. Not
that I have any money, but I certainly don't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Now, no, no, you don't, No, you don't.

Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
All right on that note, live in northern California. What
a great idea, smart move on. Yeah, if anybody, by
the way, if anybody is in need of financial planning,
financial future, John London unleashed. That's mainly what I talked
about on the channel is how to keep your finances,
how to send your kids through college, that loans, how

(01:03:46):
to save your money, invest and I'm very good at
betting to like you know, if you need you know
something to bet on or something. Basically, what you do
is you bet the opposite of me, and you do
it a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Uh it's there you go, John lond unleashed. That's that's
the promo. Go get go, go, watch, listen, sign up,
and then you can harass him, give him hell. Ask
you about what clicks he's got going on today and
how many viruses on his computer?

Speaker 6 (01:04:09):
So a lot of viruses?

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
All right, buddy, John lenn at least go check it out.
Get out of here. I'll talk to you track CF.
There you go, that's John Lennon. He's done, he's out
of here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
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Speaker 7 (01:04:53):
So the Marriners of one four in a row and
I just saw as the lineup for today. That's crash.
Davis would say, you never book a streak, but I don't.

Speaker 8 (01:05:11):
I guess like lineup isn't good. So you wouldn't bet
for a streak or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Uh, they have one for in row. They're playing a
team that they've had great success against historically, and they've
got Ben Williamson making his debut today third base. I'm
kind of excited for him.

Speaker 8 (01:05:29):
I know he's not like the top guy that like
all these prospect nerds are looking at, but I'm excited
to watch some competent third.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Base prospect nerds that would include Crawford. Is he a
prospectly would?

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
I think that's an endearing term for him on the
eight twenty scale. What that means eighty.

Speaker 8 (01:05:50):
Scale instead of like zero to one hundred that he
used twenty to eighty. I don't know why, because they're nerds.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
He's just exactly Dylan Moore your lead off hit or
play right you, Julio about in second at center field,
John Berg gets a day off behind the dish, he's
your d h and hitting third, still in and ros
or is your left fielder about and clean up? Nothing
screams offense like the following your five through nine hitters.

(01:06:19):
Mitch Garber behind the plate, Donovan Solano at first, leos
a second, william saying making his debut at third, hitting eighth,
and JP Crawford shorts us planco still like he can
play every fourth day? Is that the deal?

Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
No idea?

Speaker 7 (01:06:33):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
My big question is is it a coincidence? I miss Mitchager.
That's just me. Maybe you guys do too. I do not,
I really miss Mitch. I absolutely do not.

Speaker 8 (01:06:46):
Is it a coincidence that your six through nine hitters
are all of your entire infield?

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Well, throw the catcher in there two five through ninety,
I guess sure, because it's not because it's it's Garb.

Speaker 8 (01:06:57):
Yeah, who's uh second time Garver's caught Castio? Is that
going to be a thing this year?

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Was it a thing last year?

Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
He was the Kirby catcher last year. Yea, yeah, that's
I knew. Somebody had their own, Yeah yeah, or Felix
had who's Felix John Jaso something like that.

Speaker 14 (01:07:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
You went through a lot of them though, But but
I think he was got to call the the perfect game.
Yeah it was the cheese Yeah yeah, yeah, in a minute. Yeah, Well,
he didn't want Miguel Legal or somebody dropping balls on third.
I can I can understand that catcher. They couldn't catch
it weird. It's kind of part of it. It's kind
of a weird part, almost like having a DH that

(01:07:36):
couldn't hit well. Historically speaking, that's been down. It's like
a black hole since you retired, man Cruise. Yeah, that's true.
All right, let's get some text four nine four five
one on the still unnamed all free agents.

Speaker 9 (01:07:55):
When it's text time, it's your time.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
Thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:07:57):
We should we should call it the twenty eighty text line.
Twenty eighty scale text line. Marcus, can you ask Crawford
when he thinks Montees will get his shots? That will
be huge for us. Plus, I've been buying his cards
while they're low. He's an Everett right. Yeah, my guess
is not this year, probably not next year, but maybe
in two years.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Yes, that guy hasn't even seen Bullderam I have seen
Bull Durham. I don't remember lines from movies.

Speaker 7 (01:08:22):
Man.

Speaker 9 (01:08:23):
Oh that's my thing.

Speaker 5 (01:08:24):
I know.

Speaker 9 (01:08:25):
And that's why I swear we are distant relatives in
some way.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
I really really would never say that with any kind
of endearing qualities.

Speaker 9 (01:08:38):
I mean, I don't like every family member I have.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
Maybe you kind of picker like siblings, don't. Yeah, you
can tell we're for Paul g Allen and his band
doing sounds amazing boat trips and stories. Oh, I bet
God probably hadn't sign an NDA though. I has got
to be expired by now, right. He's been gone now
for a few years, six years, seven years.

Speaker 5 (01:08:59):
I wonder I'm I mean that that guy was a smart,
smart man, so I could see him just having one that.

Speaker 9 (01:09:05):
Yeah, the Trust will come after something.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Yeah, that's probably. Can you imagine if the Trust came
after you.

Speaker 9 (01:09:12):
There's some like men in black out there that will
do whatever.

Speaker 7 (01:09:15):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
He used to when in port I should ask to
ask Lon about this next week when he would come
to watching Malanga. Is that her name?

Speaker 7 (01:09:23):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
She can dunk?

Speaker 7 (01:09:26):
Can?

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
She's thin, looks pretty skilled. Okay, I think is pretty
accurate everything. Okay, Off to ask about the same when
when Paul g Allen well on the Blazers till he died,
But when I first went to work in Portland. The
Blaze is a long hallway where the Blazers locker room
was and the visitor locker room, and the visitor's locker

(01:09:49):
room is where the coach would come out for the
opposing team and talk. They didn't have like the backdrop
they have now and all this fun stuff. And he
just come out in the hallway and we're sitting there
once and I even know who was But if Paul
walked down the hallway, he had like this massive security
detail and you all had to kind of turn and
face the wall. Yeah wow, yeah like old like they

(01:10:10):
would like shove you up against the wall. Like I
One time, I was trying to talk to somebody from
I think it was jazzer in town and you like,
there's a TC the trainer or somebody. I was talking
to you, and I'm like, all said, but like what
what do you not make eye contact? Yeah, mister Allen
does not like eye contacts?

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
Who was six?

Speaker 8 (01:10:26):
Oh god, I missed two testy, Mitch, But good vintance
to one testing Mitch because remember he.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:10:38):
Before one second I thought you were talking about his demeanor.

Speaker 9 (01:10:42):
Yeah, and then I realized what you were saying.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Do you think that's do you think that's the issue. No,
there's a possibility somewhere.

Speaker 9 (01:10:49):
I mean, who was the third basement that we had
that that happened to? Who didn't wear a cup?

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
That wasn't Kyle Sager was no, no, no, it was
pre a picture name Mike Parrott that played for the
Mariners years and years ago, like in the seventies or eighties,
and he got he got a line drive right back
up the middle.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
I remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
And we were all playing little good time. Yeah, and
that was like the big thing. That's why you gotta
wear a cup. I mean, and little kids wearing cups
like you're eleven ten, eleven twelve were in a cup
like it's awkward, right, yes, and it looks stupid. It's
like this huge bunch down there and you're like a
little boy like come on, yeah, but wear your cup.

(01:11:26):
You don't want to get hitting though, like Mike Parrott did.
That was no good. It's like don't no, it probably wasn't.
I'll see.

Speaker 9 (01:11:36):
That's like len bias of don't do coke.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
You know. There you go, yeah, oh, I'm sorry, my
mouth was off by a little bit. What did I say?
Seventy five yards a game for one thousand yards in
an eighteen game season, it's fifty nine yards a game
according to this texture. All right, good for you, you
did math, I don't this is Keith Miller, Okay, I'll
let you read that a second. But by the way,
that's that's the whole point with a thousand yards, like

(01:11:58):
like we're talking about stats that really don't mean as
much anymore. Andrews brought up batting average and other's thousand
yard rusher in the NFL doesn't really mean that much.
Still it still has this kind of cool like, hey,
I'm a thousand yard rusher attached to it, right, But
when you look at it from it used to be
a fourteen game schedule in the NFL. Then it was
a fourteen or sixteen game schedule. Now we're seventeen. Doesn't

(01:12:21):
really mean that much.

Speaker 9 (01:12:21):
Okay, what we got from Keith, Oh, let's see, there
are a few different ones.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
I'm the best Keith.

Speaker 9 (01:12:26):
This is the best Keith.

Speaker 5 (01:12:27):
Okay, did Joe just inform me referring to Shean that
my RBA RBI till I die tattoo is null and void.

Speaker 9 (01:12:35):
Damn. Somewhere a little Kevin Shockey got his wings.

Speaker 5 (01:12:42):
It was Beltray by the way, I almost said belt was,
but I didn't want to be wrong on that before
I said a name out loud about a couple of Texters.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
Yeah, that's what I was saying, Beltra got hitting the junk.
Beltra took one of the blank probably. Yeah, everyone's okay,
you guys can stop now, I just remember you can stop.

Speaker 5 (01:12:58):
Angie and the presser. She's trying to figure it out
and made a hand gester or like did it go
like this? Like she couldn't figure it out, and we
were all like, let's not demonstrate.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
No, no, I'm talking. I'm not talking to you.

Speaker 9 (01:13:12):
That situation. Well, nobody knew how to say it. On
the air.

Speaker 15 (01:13:16):
Shannon was all like, you have to say ruptured texticle
and that's not you know who wants to talk about
this topic? Yes, he's next.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
So how does this thing work? Yeah, we haven't seen
you forever. Where you been hol you lost weight? By
the way, you look good, fella, like you appreciate that.
That's kept. I'm thinking about the shaving the beer. Think
about shaving the bear. We shave the beard.

Speaker 14 (01:13:56):
We talked about this, Yes we did do that. Yeah,
you know what is your problem? You're forgetting about the transversation. Okay,
but you know what, I remember important things in life.
By the way, don't shave the beer. Okay, I remember
important things. So this is our audience somehow somebody what
it was?

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
The first texts Hannager, right, Hanniger when it was at
Mitchie one testy or something. Okay, wow, then so I
like to call him Hanniger. Helper works just fine by itself,
don't you think, Clark? I do remember the time. I
do remember that movie line. Okay, all right, So then
it got us to the fly. I brought up the fact. Yeah,

(01:14:33):
I remember when Mike Parrott. Remember Mike perrot he was
the first Mariner to get you know well zis Man's
and remember him? And what I told you? What did
I just tell you? I said, if anybody can remember
all the Marriags that got hitting, then it would be you.
The other thing is our listeners. We could do any
sports topic in the world. Cameraon. Guy brought with a

(01:14:54):
tennis ball and be trading, be trade apparently too.

Speaker 14 (01:14:59):
I heard when it's going one hundred miles an hour
from sixty feet six inches.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
I mean, you know what you like? You like our listeners?
All these guys, hey like all the people getting they
got hit.

Speaker 14 (01:15:10):
Jose Penniagua, no Is Menzania Penniagua. This guy, somebody tell
me he got hit Penniagua's famous for other stuff that
we can't talk about on here. Oh yeah, it'll be
in the book. By the way, Paniagua stuff. Ask people
who cover the team. No, go back to Jeff Baker
when he covered Jeff tonight. I'll ask him to ask
him what's Jose Potiagua famous for.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
It's not it's not the same thing Hanneger and beltrayre No,
but it's even who's the other guy's.

Speaker 14 (01:15:36):
Even more disgusting? Jus Menzania Manzania, I don't remember him.
When was he here fifteen years ago? Maybe I don't
know I was here fifteen years ago.

Speaker 7 (01:15:46):
You were.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Yeah, by the way, don't shave the beer. I'm not
going to ask you that. He starts asking me every
day about shaving the beer. We got a problem.

Speaker 14 (01:15:52):
By the way, there should be some kind of cognitive
tests that you should have to pass before you go
on the air around here, like blowing into a thing
when you get into a car. You you walk into
this studio and you're like, they scanned your.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Retinas and they if we had if we had, if
we had a blow in that before we turn on
the microphone, None of us would be on the air.
Why is this segment so short? You guys break late again? Sure,
blame somebody else, Always somebody else's fault.

Speaker 9 (01:16:19):
Right, it's my fault.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
You know, it's producer's fault.

Speaker 9 (01:16:23):
It's always my fault. It's always the producer's fault.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Which one you got two of them?

Speaker 9 (01:16:26):
The cardinals.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
I still haven't figured out who's in trouble. Who's in charge?
We all know it's not that guy. Not that guy.

Speaker 5 (01:16:35):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
You're right?

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
You don't charge anything, you are correct? You charge of
anything in your house? Absolutely nobody are you. I'm just
in charge of getting yelled at. That's what I'm in
charge of, right, director, Director of getting yelled at? What?

Speaker 4 (01:16:50):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
What did Gina say to me the other day?

Speaker 14 (01:16:52):
Just does Tammy ever just start yelling at you and
the words don't even come out. It's like a word salad.
And Gina just said, well, you just whatever you're gonna dude,
just don't.

Speaker 5 (01:17:04):
Saw it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Because she foresaw its.

Speaker 9 (01:17:07):
Like, just stop it for me, a softy ologist of meteorology.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
I've got to the point now where like I know
it's coming and I try to avoid it, like I run.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
Away, go back.

Speaker 7 (01:17:19):
For me.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
You'll look it looks worse. That's on my SI yelled
and be silent.

Speaker 9 (01:17:26):
You can't retort to it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Yeah, they just walk by you the worst. Like you
just feel like about this, like just.

Speaker 5 (01:17:33):
Like t just tall like you wait, just you know,
rumble upstairs through your body like a ghost, like a
mini going on.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
I hear you have a big Rady show coming up today,
radio show, radio show, big rating. I got Tiki's gonna join.
Never heard of it? Where do we work for it?
You'll find out at four o'clock today.

Speaker 14 (01:17:53):
Okay, Danny sprinkles on today, the Husky basketball coach, and
he is good and pissed by the way the way
things went a year ago. Oh they finished in the
last place Ian in the Big ten. But then again
you knew that I did. And the Cougar fan and
you just wants me to say it. So there, you
won't finish last. If you get said, Rick Howard, I'll tell.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
You that you enjoy a cower last, big fella. We'll
talk to him at three twenty five with the audio.

Speaker 14 (01:18:15):
John Wilner will be with us, and then Brian Schmetzer
from the Brian Schmetzer Orchestra at five forty five, Tonight
before I hate to say it, final cracking game of
the year Tonight Kings Cracking pregame seven, Face Off seven thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
All right, the hell is he doing? I was looking
at Ian's face?

Speaker 10 (01:18:30):
What was that?

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
I'm reading about more people that got hitting that good
on the text line. You'll enjoy it in the text
line in the Luckily, you'll never know the pain.

Speaker 9 (01:18:40):
I will not for the mild, mattered and marginally objectionable,
the infness.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
This is paddle Day saying so long everyone,

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