Furness Show 4-17: Eno Sarris, NFL Draft and Rob Rang

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hell On's Rotch to my Frost Freed Corps Light. One
week away from the NFL Draft, We'll have all the picks,
all the rounds, all the fun. Here we go Friday, Thursday, Friday,
and Saturday, broadcasting live from the Virginia Mason Athletics Center
throughout draft coverage. We'll start there next week on Thursday.
We'll go till nine o'clock every night. Well, on Thursday

(00:28):
and Friday we go till nine o'clock, and then Saturday
start at nine a m. All the round, on all
the rounds. I'll be honest with you, We're you're not
going to hear every pick in the draft because we
get to Day three. We don't care about the fourth
round pick.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Keep you informed about everything.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Happened, everything that means something to you. When the Titans
take a long snapper in the fifth round, we probably
won't worry about that. No, I don't think Washington National's
reliever wore Hey Littlepaz has spending three games for additionally
throwing intentionally throwing out a Pittsburgh Pirates outfielder Andrew McCutchen.
Yesterday's game, they had a little bench clearing brawl. That's fun.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
I kind of like those.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Sure, why not why? I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
I don't want anyone to get hurt, but I like
it when teams stand up for each other.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, NHL season ends tonight. Regular season, but all the
I think everything's been decided. I'll go through that in
the Daily power Play coming up a little bit later
on today. NBA playing games continue. Are the Celtics in
a playing game?

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Just no, No, they're too good for that.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
They're not. Why not no, because.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
They're extremely, extremely good. They're just waiting to see who
they play.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Coming up tonight, Heat and Hawks. Actually, I'm sorry, it's tomorrow.
Nothing tonight Heaton Hawks and Mavericks and Grizzlies. Those are
the games, the playing games left to go. Heat and
Hawks in the East, that's the aced game and Mavericks
Grizzlies is the eight seies game in the West Western
Conference of the National Basketball Association. Let's start the show.

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We're talk about this yesterday. The more technologically asked we get,
the worst stuff gets. It really is true.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Honestly, together, a beautiful open I know.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I know, don't worry about it. Anybody cares about that's
not listen anywhere right now. The the like we were
talking about, like phone lines and stuff, you know, and
and like as soon as we went all digital and
cloud and got rid of like real things like telephones,
key cards instead of a key, what have you? All

(02:29):
these things now we don't even use key cards here.
They don't work. You got to use a phone app.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
It's just if you get your phone going to the bathroom,
you're locked.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
You're locked out. And if I didn't forget my phone,
if that happened, I would just go home. But then
I realized I don't have my phone, and then no
one's there to answer the door. And we just got
too advanced in this world. Let's make life simple. Make
life simple again, Jess, make it simple.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Give me something physical.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, all right, what are we doing today? We got
you know, Sarah's coming up at one twenty talking all
things baseball with him, and then Corbyn Smith at too.
And I'm gonna start there for a second because we
are one week away from the NFL Draft. And there
are times when I have to ask myself it m

(03:17):
I cut out for this job. Nineteen years later here
and twenty odd years.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Doing this and say your resume says yes.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
But here's why, I'm just, and I think I get
this way every time, every every I get this way
every year. At this time, I'm just I'm kind of
over the draft and it hasn't even started. But what
I mean by that is the whole mock draft and
guessing and speculation, and then I just want to get there.

(03:45):
I want to get to five o'clock on Thursday. I
want the commissioner to walk to the podium announce cam
more to the Titans, and then we can just move on. Okay,
can we just get to that point? Please?

Speaker 3 (03:54):
You're sick of that story of getting pounded into the.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Ground every and listen mock drafts. I hate them because it's,
you know, we did a thing here. I think it
was pre pandemic. I want to say twenty nineteen because
I remember doing the shows. I was doing shows at
Dino's across the street from the vMac, and it might
even have been when Softy and and Hugh were doing

(04:17):
the mock draft. They do a mock draft that actually
I like because it's thirty two different people listeners picking
it's not a nerd from the athletic or you know
whatever website, and it's those guys. And there's a big
prize online. But we offered one year a prize of
like a million dollars or a car or something to

(04:38):
get to pick every single first round pick correctly. The
odds of that happening are about the same as getting
a perfect bracket. But I'm ready. I'm just ready for
the draft to start. And here's why this One'm gonna
go with with with you know, Corbin today and with
with Seahawks fans, I'm just getting four nine four five.
One is the question, what do you want them to

(05:01):
do in the first round? And I'm not talking about
even specific players because I just think that's a worthless exercise.
If you say I want them to draft X player,
I think it's a worthless exercise because we have no
idea that guy's going to be there, right. What do
you want them to do in fact days one and
two when they have all those five picks? What do
you want them to do? What do you need them
to do? What will you be happy with if they do?

(05:23):
I mean, if you want to throw a specific player
out there, fine, But assuming that, I mean, do you
want them to address the offensive line in the first round.
Do you want Schneider to trade down and address that later.
Do you want them to take a skill position player.
What do you want them to do in those early rounds?
Because for me, what I'd like to see them do.

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I think they need to obviously fortify the offense, but
I would say if one of those top receivers that
can maybe be an X receiver, I win on the outside.
Because you've got two slot guys in Cup and JSM
your for top two guys, I think we're unless there's
no way Warren slips that far. Lovelin probably not, but

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maybe if that was where to happen, you could go
down that road of a tight end one. But I
want to see skill at the receiver position addressed early.
That's what I like to see. If not that, then
I want to see an edge rusher if there's a
top guy involved. I think those are things they need
to address. I like the defense, and then we all
saw what the defense didn't improve to how they improved

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last year. It was fantastic. But I want to see
something like that happen. I think we're at the point
now we've done a pretty good job, I think on
this show, and I think all the shows. You know,
Chuck does the Draft miss thing and all that other
stuff going.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
On of that segment.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
It's so fun they do all that. We've we've gone
through a million players on this station and we've gone
through a lot of different things. Chuck does a lot
of rumors like and stuff. I'm i'm I'll leave that
to him in the morning, but I want to get
I want to get to the point next. I love
those three days. I'll be honest with you. I think
it's the best. It's among the best things that we

(07:03):
do on this station, and we have done for a
long time, and nobody in the market has ever been
able to match what we do. Now we don't have
to carry baseball game, so that helps. But nobody in
this market has Humillin Great Cosell, and nobody has Rob
rang And whereas a lot of people can sit there
and say, hey, here's what they're doing in the first round,
here's what the first round guys look like. A nobody

(07:24):
like our guy Ranger, who's going to join us coming
up tomorrow at two o'clock. Because on Saturday morning, when
things get dicey and you start rolling out all these
different dudes. That guy Rob Rang knows every one of
those guys.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
It's insane.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
It's the encyclopedia. This guy's crazy.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
Hey, the seventeenth offensive lineman taken in the seventh round.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
And he'll be like, oh, yes, I remember when law.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Maya got drafted. I'll use this for an example. I'm like,
you know, oh, utah lineman lot man. He goes, oh,
right off the kick kill, Yeah, I was a tackle
moving inside that out like well, uh okay boom. Like
Christian Haynes got drafted third round. And the funny thing
was h knew him because he actually, I believe, roomed
with his son with Hugh's son. Yes, but like Rang

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new all the particulars. That's where we shine. And we're
on until nine o'clock on Thursday and Friday, and that's
a ton of fun too. Friday is gonna be pro
I think Friday's gonna be a better day for for
Mariner fans or Marra fans, for Seahawk fans than Thursday
because Friday theyre gonna be busy, Yes, multiple picks, and
I who knows what they're gonna do because it just

(08:30):
has to be in Schneyder's DNA to make a trade,
like it just has to be.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
He does like to accumulate. He likes the diamonds in
the road.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
So we'll see, we'll see what, we'll see what happens.
But yeah, well we're being saying, so fourne four five one.
What do you just want to see him doing? Four nine,
four to five to one on the yet to be
named unrestricted free agent. It's a UFA text line, the
UFA text line.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
It's your time.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's sure it used to be somebody else's time, but
no longer. So yes, mister hand, so you could xit
a fourine four to five one. You can also send
us a voice text talkback. Do that by going to
the iHeartRadio app. All you have to do is click
a little red microphone and check that out as well,
and give us your thoughts. All right, Manners in one

(09:13):
of the dumbest games in the history of baseball, just
came back to win. I say came back. They led
a good chunk of the game and then trailed in
the last inning and then came back to tie it
and force overtime, forced extra innings. They get a win.
Eleven to seven, take two to three in Cincinnati, Randy
rose Reina was good again. He had a couple of
big hits. Cal Rawley I think just hit another home

(09:35):
runn even though the game's over. That's how good he's been.
Two on the day. We'll talk about all of that
with our guy, our baseball guy from the Athletic, Eno,
sarahs joins us.

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(10:42):
my mother in law's doing. All right, welcome in. You know,
how are you, buddy doing great?

Speaker 5 (10:46):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
We have to point out this game just ended elsewhere
on the dial. Eleven to seven. The Seattlementors beat the
Cincinnati Reds in one of the wildest games I think
I've seen in a long time. Crazy this there with
Mariner's leading late, a grand slam home run by former
Mariner Jake Fraley gives the Reds a four to two

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lead heading into the ninth, and then back to back
solos by cal Raley, a Roseraina gets to extra innings
and the Mariners score four. The Reds got none. Thanks
for coming eleven to seven. I'm going to get to
the offense in the second. You kind of wrote about
this with a couple of guys from the athletics. But
Marrier's at ten to nine, now a little bit of
a surge. Reds are nine to ten, but again, it's early.
What do you think of our baseball team out here

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locally and what they've done the first nineteen games.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
They've demonstrated the same, you know, dominant starting pitching. I
think that if there were any questions about what the
bullpen would look like this year beyond Andres Munios, I
think they're starting to answer those questions. Trent Thornton, Carlos
Vargas looked like legitimate setup guys. Vargus had a little
trouble today finding the zone, and he can do that.

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But they're finding the pieces in the bullpen to spot
behind on Ris Munnaz and they're about to get Matt brashback,
who gets busy. So I like their pitching as always,
And I think my point I was trying to make
the last time I was on here was just that
it was a slow start from the offense and they
were going to get going at some point. And it

(12:16):
looks like the offense has fallen in place. They're not
striking out quite as much, and some of the guys
that were cold are trying to put it on today
today Brandy OrderIn and having a two for four game.
That's something you want to see more of.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
You know, cal Rawly hits his eighth home run this year,
He's on a big time heater right now. But eight
home runs at this point the season through nineteen games,
I mean, it's I think I heard today before his
eighth he was on pace with seven to hit wait
for it, sixty three home runs. Probably won't keep that
pace up behind the plate. But in bigger picture terms,

(12:52):
where does cal Rawley rate in your mind among the
best catchers in the game right now?

Speaker 5 (12:58):
I mean, there's a case for to be the number
one catcher in baseball. And it's not that it's not
the normal case. I mean, William Contreras is probably the
number one offensive catcher in baseball, and he is this year,
and he was last year, and you know, he's just

(13:19):
a he's a great offensive player. But count Raley is
the best defensive catcher in baseball. You know, when it
comes to framing, he's second or or first, depending on
what time framing is. When it comes to blocking, he's
up there. When you know, when it comes to the
throwing game, he's up there. And I hear that. You know, pitchers,

(13:43):
I've been hearing the pitchers love throwing to him forever
and so you know, I think he's the best defensive
catcher in the game, and he's one of the three
best offensive catchers in the game. If you add those
things together, you have a case for best catcher in
the game.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
The uh.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I gotta remember about abs in a second, because you
brought something up with framing that I want to get
your thoughts on as well. I mean, like adlid Ruchman
in the American League too, right, Like a lot of
people love him. He's a former Oregon State Beaver, close
to us out here as well. But I think what
you said there is kind of think of what a
lot of us have been thinking here in Seattle, the
combination of defense and offense. And it feels like I

(14:22):
grew up in an era. I mean, I'm old, you know,
very old old man here. I grew up watching the
great Johnny Bench and then Larry later Gary Carter, guys
like that. Why or how has that position changed in
terms of maybe not as reliant on offense as it
used to be.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
I think there's just a real understanding of how difficult
their lives are. That's what I said to Cal and
I thought him, like you, he's a switch hitter, I
didn't even think of this, But he's a switch hitter,
so he's got to think about offense from two sides
of the play. He's gotta he's got to work up
all the pitchers that he's gonna that he's gonna catch
that night, and he's got to start looking at the
catch pres he's gonna fay. Then he's got to start

(15:01):
thinking about defensive things like blocking balls and who's gonna
run on him. So it's you know, there's not it's
not an accident that so many former catchers are managers
because they really have so much to do. And I
think you know, when we took a real step forward
analytically when we included framing in a catcher's value, we
understood that they were able to steal strikes and and

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and get more strikes than other catchers. Once you start
putting that in there, there are hundreds of pitches per game.
If they can steal whatever percentage of those hundreds of
pitches of game, you know, you know, over one hundred
and sixty two games, you start to see how that
little incremental value starts adding up a lot. And once
you add that value and you say, you know what

(15:45):
I'm gonna make a simple on offense. Just hit me
a couple of dingers, you know, Just hit me, hit
me a couple of dingers, and be a good framer
and and call the game well and really understand the
game from back there and I and I won't care
what your batting average is. Uh and Callas, I think
it so some extent, a real extension of that.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
It's a good point because in today's game, I think
it was the rose rain and the extra innings. He
probably should have struck out and they would have gone
into the bottom of the eleventh or tenth with a
one run lead. Instead. The pitch wasn't framed. It was
called a ball. It was a strike three. And it's
I mean that those two or three inches, and if
a catcher can give that to you, it is It's
remarkable what one or two pitches with the difference it

(16:23):
makes you bring up to that the preparation he's got
to do for a game. I'm wondering how much it's
probably a lot more different. I hate the I'll just
be honest with you, you know know. I mean, we
have people all the time in our business of sports radio.
It's you know, the comparisons of you know, this day
versus that day old you know, who was better in
all the generations, and the arguments. Hell, I don't think.

(16:44):
I don't think inside the NBA is on a show
this year without arguing about that stuff. But so I'm
not a big fan of it. But I think it's
safe to say, maybe you can correct me if I'm wrong,
that what cal Rowley or Radley, Rutchman or anybody's got
to do these days as a catcher is far more preparation,
far more detailed than it was back then, just because
of the information available the scouting.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think so. I mean
you're you're talking about hot zones and let's say you're
let's say we're He did let me in a little
bit on this, and he said that the pitchers have
their plan and they'll go over it with him, and
he's offering smaller changes to that. It's not so much
that he has to make the plan for every picture.

(17:25):
So that's a little bit of nuance there that can
help him a little bit, you know, like, yeah, Okay,
they're coming to me with the plan and I'm looking
at it as opposed to I got to come up
with a plan for each of these guys, and and
the proliferation of coaching. I don't know if you've noticed,
but there are now, you know, quality assurance coaching and
not only the pitching coach, but the assistant pitching coach
and the bullpen pitching coach. You know, so there are

(17:48):
more and more coaches to help shoulder some of that burden.
But you know, we talk about stuff like, you know,
on rays and Barrel's on my podcast, we talked about like, hey,
how do you pitch this guy? And we'll like have
heat maps, and one of the questions is do we
use the heat map from the last two weeks, do
we use the heat map from the last two months,
do we use the heat map for the last two years,

(18:09):
because those heat maps might be different because those players
are ever changing. And that that question alone starts to
I think maybe get at like how much information there
is in the game and how much discernment. You know,
a catcher like cal Rally has to say, you know what,
I'm going to trust this last two weeks because I
think I see an adjustment, you know, in the way

(18:30):
he's doing something, and so let's pitch him this way.
Not the way that we pitched him last year. So
if you think about that, you have to continually update
your mental role of decks and and and you know,
trends go through the league so quickly.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yea.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
The kick chains that Munos is throwing is now like
one of the biggest things in the game. You know,
that happens within you know, two months or something now,
So you know, I think the game moves really quickly,
and there's a lot of data, and there's a lot
of technology involved, and I think that just you know,
things a little bit harder.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Munio still has not given up a run this year.
We talked about that kick change a couple of weeks ago.
It was crazy. I want to get to that. We
spend some time with my buddy Joe Shean on Tuesday
talking about how pitchers are just you know, dominating the
game and on and on. Now we're looking at an
eighteen run game here today obviously went to extreadings, but
you guys wrote about about hitting. I'm gonna get to
that in a second, because I think it's an interesting

(19:22):
contrast what we just talked about on this station, this
show a couple of days ago. But where do you
where does Eno Sara's fall in on ABS on automatic
balls and strikes.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
I don't I don't know that I like it, and
it might be surprising. I know there's a lot of
people in my field that really want to get every
call exactly correct, but the question of what exactly correct
is has not really been settled in a way that
I think we're ready for ABS. I mean, so, the

(19:51):
strike zone as it is described in the rule book
is a three three dimensional zone, and in the way
that it is done in ABS or whatever, is a
two dimensional zone. It's just a plane. And so right
there you have a disagreement between the rule book and

(20:12):
how it's being used. And I think that just conspiral
to the point where we're having debates every year about
what is the strike zone? Because ABS will, you know,
allow It would also allow the Commissioner of the ability
to say, Hey, I'm going to shave an inch off
the top of the strike zone this year, and he
can even he would even be able to tell everybody, Hey,

(20:32):
I'm shaving inch off the top of the striketh on
this year. Get used to it, and it would still
be this big deal we always have to deal with
every year. It's almost too much power to give the commissioner.
So I want I want us to feel out the
strike zone the way we've been doing it. I like
the challenge system. I think it's fun. I think that
when you do it in the game. I don't know
if you saw it in spring training. I thought the

(20:54):
audience liked it. It's it's it's we're here to entertain.
And I actually think that arguing about about calls is
part of being a fan. So like when you have
a challenge system, you make sure that the biggest, the
biggest call of the game didn't go wrong, you know,
And then we can still argue about whether or not
those are balls and strikes earlier, and we can still
have framing as a thing, and we don't have to,

(21:16):
you know, let Rob Manford decide every year if he
wants to shave a strike an in shot of the
strike zone here or there.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
You know. I've gone back and forth on this as well.
It did surprise me a little bitause I'm thinking, Okay,
Leno serious, he's got all these numbers and analytics and
all this. I'm thinking, for sure, abs guy. But I've
kind of I've kind of leaned towards what you think.
I don't want to give the computers and the you
know whatever, the pitch graphic. I don't want to give
that abs stuff one hundred percent. I don't mind that,

(21:44):
you know, and I think you know we I'll be
honest with you. I'm one of those guys. I don't
know where you fall in this. I I don't worry
about length of games as much like if I want
to watch a game, I want to watch a game
start to finish and be entertained. It's like when college
football and NFL, it's if it goes three hours, goes
three hours, goes three and a half, goes three Now
held the baseball game today, extra innings went three and
a half hours, I think for Seattle. So I don't

(22:06):
mind those things, but I kind of do, like the
human element tell me about. Then there's an article you
guys wrote, and I found this interesting because I mentioned
this the other day. We talked with Joe about it,
and it feels like a lot of people think pitching
has just over just taken over the game. But you
guys wrote about something that had to do with bat
speed and everything else. Is that changing at all? Did
I get that out of the article that I read

(22:26):
it wrong. Where are we at with the offense and
hitting and bat speed and baseball right now?

Speaker 5 (22:32):
Yeah, I think that hitting is catching up. And one
way that you can talk about it is just the
fact that strikeout rate across the league is finally plateaued.
You know, it was always on an upward trajectory, and
for the last three years we've basically had the same
strike out rate twenty two point six percent strikeout rate

(22:53):
for three stagure years. And that's the first time in
like ten years where the strike out rate hasn't gone up.
So the new rules have had some of effect. But
I think also baseball training. The other thing that you
can say about this is, you know, we started tracking
pitch movements and pitch velocity across baseball in two thousand
and eight, and pitching development took off after that because

(23:14):
we could say, you know, I have my stuff plus number.
You could say, oh, this pitch moves like this, it's good,
it spins like this, it's good, this this this, We
start developing pitchers that throw that way. All this thing.
We only really got baseball hitting stats that mattered for
hitters in twenty fifteen and that was just exit velocity
and launch angle. What we saw after that was a

(23:36):
real focus on power, exit velocity, the launch angle revolution
some of that. Right that was twenty fifteen, we've only
had information about how they're standing in the box and
where the contact point is and what the bat speed is.
We've only had that since twenty twenty. So if you
compare that to twenty two thousand and eight, the pitchers
had a twelve year head start in terms of data,

(24:00):
but the hitters now have had four years of information
about bat speed and their angles at the plate. There
the way they're standing at the plate, the way their
bat moves through air, and now teams are reacting to
that and it's changing the way they train hitters. It's
changing the way that hitters think about hitting, changes the
way that hitters think about their bats. The torpedo bat

(24:22):
is actually have something to do with this new data,
because now we can say we know exactly where on
the bat you hit the ball the most. Let's change
the bat so that it's thickest.

Speaker 6 (24:32):
Where you hit it.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
You have to know where you hit the ball to
be able to say that, and we've only known that
for four years. So I would say that the data
is finally catching up for hitters and they're now have
processing in place just like pitchers do in order to
develop better. So I think there's a little bit to
hitters catching up and some of it you can see
and strike out rate finally staying in one place for
a while.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
You know, just is are the are the Red Socks
the team at the forefront of some of this, or
is it the Baltimore Oriols who is at this kind
of the leader of the pack, so to speak.

Speaker 5 (25:03):
The Red Sox are all in on bat speed and
they have a former dry line guy over there, Jason Ochart,
who just all in on bat speed. And what they've
done with Christian Campbell this rookie is take a guy
that could really make a lot of contact and then
add bat speed to him and it's been a really
successful experiment with that. But the Orioles were the team

(25:24):
that were doing that before, and we used to all
talk about how great these oriole Jung hitters are. I
think they still are great even if they're taking they're
not as good this year so far. And so otherwise,
the Yankees trained guys who hit the ball really hard
and make good swing decisions. So they have pretty good
training and people respect the Dodgers as well. So Mariner's

(25:47):
pitching coaching is very well thought of across the league.
But when it comes to hitting, it's more Red Sox, Yankees,
Dodgers Orioles.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
You can find that article by the way at the
Athletic the athlete dot com, you know, and a couple
of guys put it together. So I was interesting that
an interesting reading too about how guy the Red Sox
want to get the ball pulled into the air more,
you know. And I don't know if that's ballpark related
or not. It feels like in today's day and age,
you can always he hit it the other way, hit
it the other way, all that type of thing. But
they they're they're kind of going back the other way, right, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
I mean if you just look at slugging percentage down
a pull fly ball versus a slugging percentage on an
opposite field fly ball, the difference is like two to
three hundred points.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Whoa.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
So it's a big deal. It has something to do
with spin. When you hit to the opposite field, there's
spin on the ball that's taking it. It's almost like
a slice in Uh, in golf, a slice or fade
fade in golf, you.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Well, especially yeah, but especially a slice. If you if
you hook, if you hit a slice, if I'm if
I'm hitting, if I'm a right hander and I hit
it it slices to the right, you lose distance. You
lose a ton of distance. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
So it's the same phenomenon that makes it lose distance.
But when you're not hitting it true and straight, it doesn't.
And true and straight in baseball is pull the fly ball.
Now there's wrinkles to it, and there's wrinkles to the
bat speed too, which is if I train completely to
pull the ball in the air and to hit have
that bat speed, it may not be the greatest way
to train. Uh, it's you want that outcome. But you know,

(27:16):
there's been guys that I've talked to before that will
practice opposite field fly balls in batting practice to get
the right bat path, and they still want to pull
the ball in the air. So you know, there's some
nuance to this, but generally that speed is good, and
generally pulling the ball in the air is good, and
some teams have recognized that and figured out how to

(27:37):
train for that basic.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
You know, before you go tell people about rates and barrels.
Your your podcast where you can find all you can
anyway you find podcasts out there. What are people going
to listen to when they when they download that?

Speaker 5 (27:49):
Yeah, we uh, we are a show where we have
Jed Lowry, former hitter for the ads and Trevor May.
We have them on Wednesdays and Thursdays. Well, we're just
breaking down. They're helping us give the hitter and pitcher perspective.
Me and my co host Derek ben Riper are kind
of the analytics guys, and we just run through news

(28:09):
and matchups and a lot of the stuff that you
might here elsewhere, except that what we're playing out to
some extent is how the analysts on a team and
the hitter or pitcher on a team would interact. Because
a lot of times I'll come with heat maps. We'll
do something like how do you pitch Jacob Wilson And
I call him with my heat maps and Trevor May says,
you know, I would pitch him like this. So you know,

(28:32):
we give all sorts of different perspectives on the game
and it's a fun place to be.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
We're daily too, I've just subscribed to it as well,
so I'm going to take a listen before we check
in again. Thank you so much. You know I'll talk
to you next week.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
Yeah, thanks for having guys.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
You know, Sarahs from the Athletic joining us here on
the beacon, pullbing hotline back to you by georgeown Brewing.
Appreciate him. Coming on, we'll take a break. We'll do
a quick daily power play coming up.

Speaker 6 (28:55):
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Speaker 2 (29:03):
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Speaker 6 (29:06):
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Speaker 1 (29:07):
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Speaker 2 (29:22):
All right, we got daily power play. I know little
crack of the season is over, but h fair time
of the year. This is actually a good time. We'll
combuy a little NBA too. This is this is a
great time of the year for sports fan. I remember
Fane was talking about this about two weeks ago when
March Madness was starting, and he saw him on March
Madness and the Masters, and and I would add into
that you had March Madness baseball starting the Masters, and

(29:45):
then here we are this weekend with the real NBA
playoffs starting. Play on Games Stupid this tomorrow. They finished
those things up. The real NBA playoffs starting this weekend
and the NHL playoffs starting this weekend as well. The
Stanley Cup playoffs are I just I can't get enough
of it, and the NBA playoffs were fun too, but
the Sandy Cup playoffs is what the Daily Power plays about.

Speaker 6 (30:07):
It is.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Uh, everything's been determined and just probably one of the
least compelling ends of the season in a long time
in the NHL because there was not a lot of drama.
Saint Louis clinched the last spot in the West a
couple of days ago on Tuesday, and that was on
I will say as a foegone conclusion. Calgary pushed them
a little bit towards the end, but Saint Louis controlled
themselves to their destiny. They did get a little drama

(30:29):
at the end. They had the tie game up and
I guess I could have gone one more day, but
they get the get the point, and then last night
the last playoff spot was clinched again. Montreal just needed
to win one, get one point. The last couple of
games they got a point, They've got two points. Last
night they clinched so everything's done. There's actually games tonight,
regular season games tonight in the NHL. None of them
matter at all. Like in terms of playoffs. I know

(30:50):
it's odd, yeah, but the playoffs have been determined and
I'll just go through real quick and a quick fun
Toronto Auto the Eastern Conference. I'm such a Western Conference guy.
Our team is from the West. I kind of watched
the West. We like the timing better because their games
are at night as opposed to four in the afternoon.
But there are two really spicy series in the Eastern Conference,
Toronto and Ottawa, the Battle of Ontario, Brady Kachuk getting

(31:14):
his first chance to play in the play It is
gonna be an absolute war. And I know people don't
like to use that word, but I'll just in sports terms,
it's going to be that. It's gonna be a battle.
It's gonna be incredible, physical, stupid, hard, chippy, ugly, cheap.
A lot of bad things are gonna happen, and that
makes for good hockey playoff series.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
You know what. I like it when it matters give
me all you're gonna.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Get all that. And speaking of which, Tampa Bay and Florida,
The Battle of Florida is gonna get going as well.
That doesn't start till Tuesday, though, because this is the
games tonight. Washington Montreal Washington in grade eight shouldn't have
much of a problem with a young Montreal Canadians team. Carolina,
New Jersey is is there and the New Jersey I

(32:04):
just know Luke Hughes. It doesn't okay, you're not into
the Devils no Western Conference. Winnipeg Saint Louis wild Card
two was Saint Louis last team in Winnipeg, the top
team in the league, and I don't think they're going
to have an easy time. That's gonna be a battle.
That's gonna be a tough When Saint Louis was red
hot at the end of the season, did have a

(32:24):
couple of losses along the way, but they were they
were smoking hot towards the end of the season. That's
gonna be a good one. Dallas and Colorado, both teams
have a potential to win it all and they're.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Because that's a good matchup. That's like a really good.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
I'm gonna say Dallas, even though they kind of scuffled
a little bit down the stre if. Haskin's health is
big landa Scott comes back for Colorado's big Just playoffs
come down a goaltending oteners is better. Uh and and
that's that's the advantage there. And if they had to
go to the Smith for some reason. Number two has
had a really nice season. Vegas Minnesota. Nobody wants to

(33:03):
see Minnesota play in a playoff series of the most
boring team in hockey not named the Los Angeles Kings,
who will get to in a second. Vegas should take
care of them. In Los Angeles and Edmonton meet for
the fourth year in a row. I believe it is.
And that's gonna be a good series. That's going to
be a really really good series. And Edmonton's doesn't have
homemice advantage for the first time when they play in
this playoff series. So much pressure on Connor McDavid and

(33:26):
Leon dry Sidel.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah good La.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
LA is a team that still have I mean with
Dowdy and co Patar, they still have some veterans that
have been there, done that and hoisted the Cups. It's
gonna be a good one. That's gonna be a playoffs
first round. Playoffs are fantastic. Goaltending means a lot Kemper's
better than Stuart Skinner. LA is probably gonna come out
on top of that one.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
I like it, and so will Andrews when he hears
you say that he did not stand there.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
He did not like the Oilers? Does he?

Speaker 4 (33:55):
No?

Speaker 2 (33:55):
What? What is his problem with the Oilers?

Speaker 4 (33:57):
I think it's because of their history with a Kraken
when he has been working games and he takes it
very personally.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
He just really hates him.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Okay, yeah, probably it would be more of the Canucks thing,
but okay, yeah, you think we got to ask him
tomorrow because he's not He did the ten to one show,
so he's not around today. He bailed out of here.
But well, a smart movie is seventy degrees outside outside,
got a dodge, hella and I.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Wouldn't be listening, no, no, but we thank you for listening.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yes, all of you who are listening.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
We thank you.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
There are a lot of people texting in.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I believe that we will have Stanley Cup Finals and
maybe some playoffs on KGr.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
Correct, Yes, we will once the schedule is officially.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
We don't have that yet.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
We don't have him Westwood one right exactly? Or Sports USA?
Who are we doing from Uh, we're gonna probably might
get Edzell on tomorrow. I just texted him. I'm not
sure which series he's doing. Looks like it could be
LA Edmonton or perhaps Vegas Minnesota. Those are T and
T series.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
So what about seven preview the Dallas series?

Speaker 2 (34:58):
You just want to get semi back on, don't fun?
You know what he's gonna do is just gonna absolutely
blast us. Well, yeah, we'll get Sevie. Okay, you know what.
That's a project for you?

Speaker 3 (35:10):
I got it.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
When did they start? Hang on? When I just see Saturday?
You want to get go ahead? You you you book
Sevy for a daily power play?

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Hey man, I'm good at talking to him on the phone.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
They play Monday too. Maybe we shoot for him Monday
for the old We'll talk about that offen. Okay, you
don't know. Brett Severn is one of the analysts for
the Dallas Stars on their TV broadcast of the He's
like the Brett festerling Er Alison.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Lucan for Ford still coaches hockey too.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
He coaches hockey down there and I worked with him
years ago at the Paralympic Games. He's a former Seattle
Breaker slash Thunderbird played the in HL for a.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
While and he's a dang fine guest to have on
the air.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
He'll say stuff to piss you off, so we'll try
to do that. We'll get that on Corpus Smith doesn't
make you mad. He just gives you good information. He's
gonna join us talking Seahawks draft coming up next.

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(36:23):
for the Mariners. Emerson Hancock shout out to him. Five innings,
five hits. He gave up just two runs that came
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after that was good for the next four innings. Did
not walk a man, struck out four, coming back after
he had that bad outing earlier in the years. He
got sent down to Tacoma. But he bounces back nicely
to get the win or to help Seattle in that win.

(36:44):
The win actually in the end goes on removes. I
should mention as well pitch another perfect eleventh inning. Anyway,
Maynors went next up. They had to Toronto take on
the Blue Jays. That game is on Apple TV tomorrow
as well. Eleven to seven, the final Reds losing to
the Mariners ten to nine, ten and nine. The Mariners
now in the American League. They still sit behind the
Rangers at eleven and seven, despite the fact they kicked

(37:06):
their ass last weekend and then somehow the Angels were
above five hundred as well. Okay, let's see one week
away from the NFL Draft, all the picks, all the rounds,
all the fun starting Thursday right here on nine three
point three kJ FM Friday Saturday Saturday morning is always
were on the yeir at nine o'clock when Day three starts,
when the Seahawks really get busy. Of course, Hugh Millon
rob Rand cast of thousands all be out there at

(37:27):
the Virginia Mason Athletic Center should be a ton of
fun as it always is. Let's move into our number two.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
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Speaker 2 (37:58):
Now with Corbyn Smith here and Ah Corman. Finally, Buddy,
we're seven days away the official countdown can begin until
the NFL Draft. Are you ready for the draft? Are
you done with the all the analysis and all the
all the previews you can possibly do? My friend, well, Ian,
I literally just submitted on my word document, my four

(38:21):
hundred and eighty third and final scouting report. I am done.

Speaker 7 (38:26):
And I know so people are gonna say that is insane,
that does not sound like that it's realistic, But uh,
just check out our website and you can probably see
about three hundred of those on various articles.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
So we lose Corbyn, I'm here wet it for Sree, Yeah,
I got you, Okay, we lost it for so uh again.
That's the website Emeralcityspectrum dot com. We'll talk more about
that at the end of the show a segment here.
I want to go down this road for seconds. We
have not really discussed this much on our show, and

(38:56):
it just became like it got reported last week, just
became official about forty eight hours ago or so. What
does Drew Lock signing for the Seahawks? What does that
say about Sam Howe? There maybe want to still draft
a quarterback? I always laugh wall does this prevent the
Seahawks from drafting and quarterback? Well, I don't know what
does but they haven't done it forever. They've done it

(39:17):
twice Sin Sceince twenty ten. So I don't know if
it's a player that prevents him from doing it. But
what does Drew Lock signing big picture mean?

Speaker 7 (39:25):
I think that the biggest impact here is on Sam Howe.
I just it screams to me that he is at
best on tenuous crown. I mean, I don't I don't
know how Sam Howe sticks on this football team this
upcoming season with this situation, because as soon as it
came out of.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
This was a multi year deal.

Speaker 7 (39:45):
Clearly John Schneider has more confidence in Drew Lock, and look,
Drew Lock beat the Philadelphia Eagles on Monday Night Football
two years ago. Sam Howe came into that Green Bay
game last year and looked like he had never played
football before. I mean, you can't have that. You can't
have a more stark difference in backup quarterbacks. So I

(40:05):
think at this point Seattle, he's one point one million
dollar cap hit, so they can keep Sam Howell into
training camp and it's not gonna be a financial hindrance
at all. I just don't I don't see any pathway
unless there's an injury in front of him. I don't
see a pathway where he is on this roster next
year because I mean, when's the last time they held
three quarterbacks, and like they very rarely do that. So

(40:29):
I think from the quarterbacks on the roster standpoint, it
has a lot more bearing on howl and Jaron Hall,
the other QB that's currently under contract. I do not
think that it is any more of an a turrent
to drafting a quarterback than it would have already been,
because if the right guy is there in the right
position on the board, which John Schneider has been saying
year after year. Well, the board just didn't fall our way.

(40:51):
If the board falls their way, nothing is going to
stop them.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
From drafting a quarterback. I get that, and the hell
thing makes all the sense in the world. The interesting
thing is the three quarterbacks on a roster right like,
because if you signed Drew Locke to what they signed
him for right multiple years then and you've got Sam
Darnold here, I would think for the right quarter I

(41:16):
don't know what the right quarterback would be this year,
and I guess what I would think. I'm just gonna
try to connect to dot. Maybe I'm way wrong here.
I could be. I could be wrong, but I don't
think I am because it is the history of John Schneider.
I'm just guessing they don't like the quarterback class like
I I.

Speaker 6 (41:32):
Well, you know, I.

Speaker 7 (41:33):
Would say I would say that that is probably a
fairly safe judgment. But I'm gonna throw one thing out
there for you, Ian And and I'm gonna say this
right now. I am not a big Jalen Milroe fan.
I watched the game against Michigan live, and there are
just some things that I saw in that game to

(41:53):
maybe think he is light years away from being able
to play quarterback in the NFL. However, he's got elite
arm strength and he is a four to three forty
athlete that would be the kind of guy if he's
there at the draft pick that falls into Seattle's board
range that they're willing to take that stab. You could
run some specific packages with him as a wildcat quarterback

(42:15):
early on if you wanted to. That would actually justify
keeping a third quarterback just because of his elite athleticism.
But that's really the only instance that I can think
that that would come into play where they would have
a third quarterback that they could justify keeping on the roster.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
And Corbyn, honestly, that's the thing. Let's remember again, it's
a fifty three man roster and in the John Schneider era,
outside of an odd week or two when maybe somebody
was banged up, right like whoever the starter was at year,
most time, Ross will whatever, they don't ever have three
quarterbacks on the fifty three man And if you drafted
Jaln Milrow, he will be on the fifty three man,

(42:52):
as will Drew Locke and Sam Darnold, right, So to me,
it would almost have to be a guy like Milrow.
And I don't know if there's anybody else like Milrow
that fits what I'm gonna say, that has a really specific,
unique skill set that also needs some developing, Right, I
think that's safe to say, Like you just said, the speed,
the arm strength, all those things. He's not accurate. He's

(43:15):
a long way away from being a quarterback that could
function in the NFL. I mean he's he's, you know,
worse than Anthony Richardson in terms of accuracy, right, So
there's a lot. I've got a.

Speaker 7 (43:24):
Fourth round grade on him me and I just I
just don't I do not see a guy that in
terms of playing quarterback.

Speaker 6 (43:30):
Right.

Speaker 7 (43:30):
His pocket presence is the worst, which normally a guy
with that kind of athleticism you don't have to have
great pocket presence because he can run out of trouble.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
But he doesn't. He seems oblivious a lot of the time.

Speaker 7 (43:40):
So that and the inability to go through his progressions,
the short accuracy is what drives me nuts. So again,
I wouldn't touch until middle rounds at earliest. So is
there anybody else like that?

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Though? That you think is a quarterback wise, it has
some crazy unique skill sets that maybe would be worth
a Day three pick, even with Locke and Darnold on
the roster, assuming in a cut howl.

Speaker 7 (44:05):
There is not another QB in this class that has
that type of unique athleticism.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
I mean there's some athletic qbs.

Speaker 7 (44:12):
I think Jackson Dark can run, but Jackson darts, and
that you're not gonna be drafting him to be a
Wildcat quarterback that has that kind of skill set. He
doesn't run in the four threes. Milrae is one of
one in that regard. So again, you know, if you
have somebody, I'll throw one other name out here. Curtis
Rourke from Indiana is coming off in ACL surgery. He
played the entire year with a torn ACL in Indiana,

(44:35):
won eleven games. The guy has a lot of skills
that fit with Clint Kubiex offense. He's got a quick release,
he's accurate, he's extremely intelligent, he can throw the ball
down field. He's not elite in that regard, but he's
probably looking at potentially a red shirt season as a
late Day three pick that I think could have been
a Day two pick if he wouldn't have had the injury.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
He had a great season. He's a really good quarterback.

Speaker 7 (44:59):
That that would be one you could justify in day three, like, hey,
we can probably stash this guy while he's recovering from
this injury, and then he can compete for a backup
job in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Interesting Corbin Smith joining us here on the beacon, putting hotline,
Animal City Spectrum, Ameralcityspectrum dot com. The you know, the
the draft itself as it comes up. You know the
mock here, mock there, we're all mocking. I want to
go a different direction with what Seattle needs in terms
of roster needs. Where would you list by position group?

(45:33):
I'm assuming interior offensive line is number one, But give
me your list of true needs in terms of roster
positional groups for this team in order? Is is it
interior offensive line number one?

Speaker 7 (45:45):
I would put in tier offensive line number one. But
this is the interesting thing. It would not be at
the top of my list for pick number eighteen.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yes, I think.

Speaker 7 (45:54):
Day two is the sweet spot that they can attack
that deficiency.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
But in terms of their biggest needs, go and maybe center.

Speaker 7 (46:02):
I still have some optimism about Olua Timmy potentially, and
Jalen Sundell's athleticism is something in this system that is
worth watching. So I think the interior line, the guard
spots in particular. Look, this is going to surprise some people.
I've got corner at number two on my list right
now because Rieke Wolan is a free agent after this year,

(46:22):
and he has been benched briefly twice in the last
two years. Even though he's had his moments where he's
looked elite, he's been very up and down. Do you
want to give that guy a big contract after this season?
There's a lot riding there for him going to the
last year of his deal. Josh Job was a revelation
last year, but he's.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
A free agent.

Speaker 7 (46:40):
You just lost Trey Brown and already Burns nayam I approach,
it didn't show anything last year that suggests to you
that he's going to be a starter caliber player. That
is a spot that I can see Seattle drafting as
early as eighteen potentially, because there's some really good corners
that could be in that spot for them. And then
Edge Rusher is number three for me. Free agent next year.

(47:02):
Kennan Newosi's been banged up the last couple of seeds.
Who knows what you're going to get out of him
this season. You just cut Draymont Jones. Derek Hall's got
two years left in his deal. That is a position
that is a much bigger present need than I think
some people realize, and down the line is a massive need.
And oh, by the way, this is a pretty dark
good edg rusher class.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Five picks in the first ninety two those will be
the first two days, pick eighteen on Day one, then
on day two, second round pick number eighteen, pick number
twenty those will be fifty and fifty two overall, But
the eighteenth and twentieth picks in the second round, round three.
Still in day two, pick number eighteen again number eighty

(47:42):
two overall, and pick number twenty eight, that's number ninety
two overall. That was a Geno Smith's trade. By the way,
So as we look through those five picks in the
first two days, do you think they're going to use
all five in those positions or what do you think,
just in terms of what draft value is out there,
makes sense for what John Schneider might attempt to do. Well,

(48:07):
I'll try to go through this quickly. Let's go, let's
go by pick here. I think it picked eighteen. Pick eighteen,
I would say, even though I don't think.

Speaker 7 (48:15):
DT is a top three need, you can never have
too many good defensive tackles and that is the biggest
strength in this entire draft class. It is the best
defensive tackle group I've ever seen in terms of top
tier talent and depth. If you can get somebody like
a Kenneth Grant from Michigan that can be your nose
and also as a monster at three tech, you.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Go when you get that guy.

Speaker 7 (48:35):
So I think pick eighteen, I would say DT, corner
receiver would be the three position groups.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
And then EDGE. I would also say Edge, there's a
couple of guys that would be worth there. Let me
stop you, let me stop you there. What if one
of the there's I mean, Warren's not going to be there,
But what if, like Loveland or Taylor or Arroyos, there
is a tight end.

Speaker 7 (48:59):
Well, I don't think Arroyo is gonna be picked in
the first round, but Loveland and Warren are both players
that I think Seattle would absolutely go for at pick eighteen.
I just don't think they're gonna be there. To be honest,
with you. If if one of them is then that
changes things. So I would say tight ends the other positions.
It's a possibility there and everyone can say, why haven't

(49:19):
you mentioned guard? Well, I think guard is day two.
I think you can get a Donovan Jackson or a
Tate Ratledge, a player like that. Wyatt Milam has been
a tackle in college I think would be a really
good guard. Unless Kelvin Banks junior from Texas false U
at eighteen, and then I would think that there's a
chance Seattle goes down that role because he's been a tackle.

(49:40):
But that guy looks like he could be a monster
in a zone blocking scheme as a guard. That would
be one guy with consideration. But I think interior o
line those two picks on day two, corner makes sense.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Receiver makes sense there. Maybe you can get.

Speaker 7 (49:53):
Somebody like a Jalen Royal's at a Utah State or
Jaden Higgins, the bigger bodied receiver out of el with State.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Maybe one of those guys is there.

Speaker 7 (50:02):
And then day three or not day three, but round
three you could still be looking at receiver there. That
might be where you start to see some surprise position
groups come into play, Like is there a tackle that
falls that you have some interest in, could you potentially
look at a running back? I don't know that they're
gonna go that early, but this is also a very
good running back clap.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
So I think round.

Speaker 7 (50:24):
Three is where you could start to see some I
wouldn't say wrenches, but some positions that aren't in consideration earlier.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
You could start looking on that. We're talking on how
the board falls. Yeah, Chorus Smith JOINNY Central se respect.
We talked about running back last week with your buddy
Rob Rant because I think is I think that's an
interesting one because on the surface that you know, the capitol,
the draft capital, they've invested in the running back position
the last couple of years, you know, three years ago
with Kenneth Walker, two years ago with sax Jarboney, both
second round picks. Walker when healthy is a top back

(50:54):
in the league. He just hasn't been healthy, right Like,
and that still has to always be a consider a
free agent after this year too, right And do you
go down the road of resigning a guy list? I mean,
I think that's I think this year determines a lot
for him, right Like, what you want to do with
Ken Walker and that running back class is really deep
and safe to say that the head coach has basically

(51:15):
told everybody in the world what he wants to do
with this offense. It's not Ryan Grubb drop back and
try to chuck it. It's they want to get running
the football again effectively. Right.

Speaker 7 (51:25):
Yeah, And I think when you look at that running
back depth chart, you get to consider you've got two
years left with sharbon A and McIntosh. But I don't
know how great sharbon A is necessarily going to fit
in this zone scheme. We'll find out. Walker, I think
would be a great fan, but he's got to stay
healthy and he's going to be a free agent after
this year. If there's a player like DJ Giddens from
Kansas State that falls into their lap at pick ninety

(51:47):
two or early in the fourth round, I think DJ
Giddens is the second best zone running running back in
this draft. Asson jen t is just incredible. He's number one.
The guy could do everything. But DJ Giddens reminds me
of Sean Alexander a little bit. He's got that bigger body,
but he's more of a glider that makes guys with
in space and they don't get him lined up, not

(52:09):
gonna truck guys. But he's got incredible vision seeing cutback
lanes and stuff, and that is crucial in this style offense.
And he can catch the football as well. That would
be a player that I could see if he slips
ninety two or early day three, that the Seahawks could
very easily bring in. Say all right, go see if
you can beat out one of these guys that we
have on the roster. And we learned at twenty nineteen

(52:30):
there's no such thing as too many healthy running backs
or good running backs I have on a roster.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
I want to go back to the cornerback position for
a second if I can, Corbyn, because I think that's
another one that you know, we you mentioned it, We've
talked about a little bit with other guests on this
on the station or on the show here. You know,
we know it. Yet everyone knows that they have in
Devin Witherspoon, you know, Pro Bowl caliber player, every every
time he steps in the field. He's gonna work inside,
he's gonna work outside.

Speaker 6 (52:54):
All that.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
But Rege Wollan got bench last year. And as you mentioned,
free agency, yeah, and free agency's upcoming. If Josh Joeb
is your best option Trey Brown is no longer here.
Quarterback absolutely is a position of concern, right.

Speaker 7 (53:10):
It is, And like I said, that is a position
that I've got in my short list in round one
because look just look at who they've had out to
the facility for visits. They just brought in Will Johnson,
who many viewed as the top corner. He had an
injury last year for Michigan, but incredible ball production, former
All American. They met with him, They met with Chavon
Revel Junior from East Carolina, who is actually my favorite

(53:32):
corner in this draft class, but he's coming off to
an ACL.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
So medicals are gonna be big for both those guys.

Speaker 7 (53:38):
But those are both top twenty caliber players, and if
the Medicals check out, I could see him go that
direction and one of their name I'll throw out there
at pick eighteen, Texas cornerback Jday Baron because he has
some Devin Witherspoon trades where he can blitz inside, he
can play in the slot, He's played boundary, he's a
good tackler, he's the physical player, not the biggest guy,

(53:59):
but it would give Mike McDonald a flexibility. He could
move those two guys between Boundary and Nickel, and just
think how difficult that makes an opposing offense when you've
got two different guys that can do that and also
can play in the boundary. And he's supposed to be
a captain caliber off the field type guy as well.
So I think corner is definitely a position. And even

(54:21):
Day two you got guys like Garan Porter from Iowa
State who I believe the passer rating against him last
year was four point seven.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
That's not a typo. If there's some really good corners in.

Speaker 7 (54:31):
This draft class, I'd actually be really surprised Ian if
they don't pick one with one of those first three picks.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Last thing for Corbyn Smith Emeral City Spectrum and we'll
talk again on Draft Day next Thursday. That would be this,
what what do you think? And based on what other
teams may be wanting to do, what are the possibilities
John Schneider trades down from eighteen if maybe somebody is
not there that he really really that they're in love with.

(55:00):
But how many other teams are thinking about trading down?
Do you think? I think it's gonna be extremely difficult
to trade down in the first round.

Speaker 7 (55:08):
And just think about this Ian how rare is it
to be a week away from the draft and every
single team, all thirty two teams have their native first
round pick.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
That should tell you all you need to know. Teams
are not moving around right now.

Speaker 7 (55:22):
I think it's going to be very difficult to get
good value back in return because I think this is
a good draft class.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
It is. There's not a lot of.

Speaker 7 (55:29):
Elite blue chip talent in it, So after go about
the first five or six picks, you're gonna have about
twenty five thirty players that you could cluster in together.
So a lot of teams are gonna like, why would
I trade up when I've got six guys that we
have the same score or similar grade for and I
can just wait to get.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
One of those guys and not invest my pick.

Speaker 7 (55:47):
So I'm not saying it's impossible, but I would actually
be surprised if we see a lot of trade downs
or very many in that first round, at least in
this draft, just because of the fact that it seems
like there's a lot of guys there in that questionable
first second round grade area that really.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Makes it clustered together. Emerald City Spectrum, All Seattle Sports,
all the time, tell folks about what you guys have
going on there, even though I see a byeline with
one Christopher Crawford and Anderson Hurst. Despite that, what do
you got going on there?

Speaker 7 (56:22):
Yeah, if you check out the site, I mean I
just posted a video on it too.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
If you're wanting stuff to get ready for the draft.

Speaker 7 (56:27):
Again, I think I've probably got three hundred scouting reports
on various articles on there. I've got my annual big
board that I just posted, and I've got in depth
scouting reports for every single one of the twenty one
reported and confirmed official thirty visits, which, by the way, Ian,
those are important for the Seahawks, they might not be
for other teams. But almost twenty percent of John schneiders,

(56:48):
and that's the ones that have been reported, almost twenty
percent of his draft picks have been guys that had
thirty visits.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
My guy Kyle Wims wasn't a thirty visit. He was
a local. But I like the fact they brought him
in here from Wazoo.

Speaker 7 (56:59):
He actually that Actually, Ian, I had, I had two
agents that I spoke with on this. It is no
longer as of this year, Washington State is no longer
a local, No I don't know what I mean, you've
made that drive though, you know how it feels like
you're in a different country.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Sometimes.

Speaker 7 (57:17):
Yes, they've changed it where every team has a smaller zone.
And I don't know all the specifics on it, but
I had a couple of people reach out to me
that were informed on this that Kyle Williams is absolutely
a thirty because Washington State and since he's a California kid,
if he was a Seattle kid, Jackson Slater was a

(57:38):
local because he's from Bellevue.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
But yeah, Washington State is no.

Speaker 7 (57:42):
Longer considered a local, which is just it's mind blowing
to me, But that's the that's the case now. I guess,
well is Alabama local for anybody?

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Good question? Or Mississippi State the players? But right, like,
I mean seriously, like like that's an interesting dynamic. I mean, like,
there's thirty thirty two teams in the NFL. There's one
hundred and twenty five hundred and thirty Division I schools,
but a lot of those SEC schools, you can make
a damn strong argument there's no local visits there either.

(58:14):
That makes it a little more challenging for teams. But
I do like to get back to it. I like
the fact they brought Kyle in. You know, I'm not
sure where he fits in this offense, but I like
the fact they brought him in. He's a that dude compete,
So in fact, he's on the show Monday's that right, Jess.
We think problem is two o'clock, two o'clock Monday. Perfect.

Speaker 7 (58:30):
Hey, he's a deep threat and they need that after
getting rid of DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
There is there's no doubt about that. We will see
and talk to you next week, my friend. Thank you.
That sounds good. Emerald City Spectrum Subscribe local journalism. Go
subscribe right now, Emerald City Spectrum dot com. I joke
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(58:56):
writing on the Sounders, and Corbyn does just such a
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even the Sea Wolves and much more. Go check it out.
Emerald City Spectrum dot com.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
Speaking of the Sea Wolves, did you see they just
added new ownership to their group in one Marshawn Lynch
and Marcus Peters they are joining the Sea Wolves ownership.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Wow, okay, good for them. We will take a break.
We asked for texts and just tells me we've got texts.
We'll get those next four, nine four to five one
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Speaker 6 (01:00:11):
All we back.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
You know what we are, Welcome back. I start letting
the tune ride.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Well, we have this issue, like we have the radio
station out in the whatever. We don't have a sports
bit anymore. We have we wish we have a shared
space out there with sales. But it's it's no, it's
more than that. It's like two minutes. It's pretty it's
pretty long, right, it's pretty well. But I was just
talking to Jackson Feltz. Do you know him.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
I've heard of him here. He's a really really good sucker.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
And Christopher Kid. I'm not sure if you've heard of
him as well. K I gotta find this here it is, Okay,
I gotta find so they're just telling me this. I
gotta find this tweet from Jeff Goodman. Okay, okay, so
three minutes ago Jeff Goodman college basketball analyst, right, founder
of the field of sixty eight good good College hoops

(01:00:59):
site for me ESPN guy, this transfer portal is just
stupid right now. All these guys going in the portal
who have no eligibility complete blank show. Like there's guys
in the portal for hoops that don't have eligibility left
what I.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Don't understand that?

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
How?

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
How because guys think they can get into I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Man, but you can't play.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
Yeah, I don't get.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Okay, let's go to four nine, four five one on
the unnamed right now, it's still much like we'll see
here in hockey very soon. It's an unrestricted free agent
UFA calling it all salespeople, UFA Unrestricted free agent. Our

(01:01:46):
text line for now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
It's when it's text time, it's your time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
There you go. That's God's country. Corbyn Smith is a
three six L respect the police go Koug's Corbyn's fine
with the Poloos. It's the NFL says they're not a
local visit anymore. So that tells you what they think
though of got Wins. They brought him in on a
thirty visit. I like that, and they you know, cost
him one of their thirties.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
But I am glad that Corven broke that down because
I didn't exactly understand that either.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
It used to be used to be Able Lucas. That
if I'm assuming they had Able Lucas in for a
thirty visit, I don't know, but back then, four years ago,
it would have been a local visits.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
But he is also local.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
He's actually from here. Yeah right, let's see, once we
have robo calls on balls and strikes, framing won't matter anymore. Yeah,
that's that would take that out of it. I don't
I kind of like I've gone so over the back
and forth all over the place too. Let's just keep
the humans. We've got to go automatic balls and strikes.
I don't I don't mind what they did in spring,
the challenge of the balls and strikes. I don't mind that.

(01:02:41):
I don't mind that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Yeah, I actually mind it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
And it would be. I think it would be fairly quick.

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
Yeah, that's what I mean, as long as it doesn't
extend the game for you know, an extreme amount of time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Yes, and Mike Holmgren drafted. You always seem to have
homegroun sniffing around too. We're talking about a draft coverage.
So yeah, Mike is there on day one I believe,
is that right, Jess.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
Yes, Okay, yes, Ellie.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
I think he'll do an hour with Safty and Dick,
and then I would try to rope him into being
there longer.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
And he will say no.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
He'll say no, and he.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Does not enjoy it as much as we do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
He'll be at the facility three times as long as
he'll be on the air. Because what Mike does he
walks in as only he can, yes, makes his way around.
He'll go down into the equipment room. See e k
the equipment manager down there, checking in with Moe Kelly
head upstairs. See what else is I mean? He just
he basically just does his thing. He does what Ring

(01:03:37):
of Honors future Hall of Fame guys do. It, walks
around and he's a big show. And then at some
point soft he'll be yelling where's home Grid? We need
you on the air.

Speaker 6 (01:03:45):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
That's when I go out, like the end of a
fishing line.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Yeah, and then Micha will come in.

Speaker 6 (01:03:50):
He'll lead it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
He'll lend his insight into what's going on in the
draft room. He'll tell you, I don't know any of
these guys, nor do I care, but he actually the
insight he has is really it's it's really good because
it's a guy that's been there and done it and
he can kind of walk you through the process. And
do we have him on next No? Not, we don't
have on next Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
No, we don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
But oh, I'll see you next Wednesday. Yeah, tomorrow, I'll
do it tomorrow. Okay, we had a really cool show
next week.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Three six, So I agree. And technological advances are not
always progress. No, they're not. They're not at all, one
hundred percent. You were on the same page three six.
So this is dumb, stupid, this whole I almost got
locked out again a minute ago. I couldn't get my
phone to work. Come on, man, there once to the restroom.
That's all I did. And by the way, the Root
sports stream app.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
I did like the War it created when you got
it working though, because you were actually watching live.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
And that's the only good thing about it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
Television was on delay and the salespeople were watching the TV.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
The only good thing about it is it's pretty close
to because I do it through Infinity, so it's pretty
close to being as live as you can get. So, yeah,
we were quite it in The sales guy's got mad
when I said something. But they should be doing their job.

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
Not well, you're lucky that that's your job today is
to watch that game.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Yeah, but it's oh, I should give the tip. This
is the pro tip on that okay stupid app. If
you have it, and like me, you keep getting this
error message on it on your phone or wherever the way,
you got to fix it, at least on the on
the app on the phone. I'ven't tried it on the
laptop that still hasn't worked. But on the phone, if

(01:05:29):
you get that you're through Infinity. You have to log
out then log back in, which means you have to
reauthenticate and get the codes. And it's a process. Even
if you click you know, keep me logged in. Even
you click that, it won't keep you logged in. It's
got a lot of bugs to it. It is nice

(01:05:49):
to be able to watch via stream if that's what
you want to do, like if you're not at home
like I wasn't today. I'm here in a cubicle, but
you have That's that's how I finally got it fixed.
Logged out, Get this code, get that code, reauthenticate here,
reauthenticate there, this code, that code. Four codes later, we
finally got it on, just some time to see Cal
Rowley hit a solo shot. Literally, I got it on

(01:06:11):
just in time. No, I saw Jake Frayley's Grand Slam
first thing I saw, and then oh yeah, rest of
the game after that, well that's one.

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
Now. It was funny because every time I left the
immediate area where everyone was watching, something amazing happened. And
then every time I came back, like I came back
and then the Grand Slam happened that was not in
our favor. So yeah, I felt like and then I
went to the bathroom and the Mariners tied it up.
I'm like, okay, you know what, I'm just going away now.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
I think the best, you know, one of the best
streaming app I've seen. I hate to give these guys
credit is the ESPN plus.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
It has never failed me. To be honest, I got
it too.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
And I call my phone or my laptop. I'm logged in.
I stay logged in. It doesn't kick me out. So easy,
so simple. I don't know why the other ones can't
be that way too.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
I would imagine, just considering the newness of it, that
they'll get these bugs worked out.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
This is me, Susie Sunshine.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
They have no staff. They laid everybody off at Roots Sports,
so I don't know who's going to fix it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
I don't know if it's immediate employees within that building
that would be the one.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
There's nobody in that building, That's what I mean. It's
an empty building. I wonder if we turned out the
lights after the last crack and postgame show. We literally
turned out the lights. Bye, thanks, Kevin shockey side. Okay,
we're done.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
I think we're good.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Stapsy's next already then, wrapping things up? You are you
at least outside of practice?

Speaker 6 (01:07:48):
Today? We are?

Speaker 8 (01:07:49):
We are outside. We are in the touchdown terrace. Is
that what they call this place, Jeff? Touchdown Terraces the
suits behind the east end zone where if you stand
up against the front of the suite. You're supposed to
be closer to the end zone than the players are
when they're on the one yard line?

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Whoa really?

Speaker 6 (01:08:05):
Or the ten yard line? Sorry, you're nine yards away
from the back line? How many right? Just nine?

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Nine?

Speaker 6 (01:08:11):
Nine? Yeah, So it's pretty cool.

Speaker 8 (01:08:14):
I mean, if there's something happening on the other end,
you got no freaking idea what the hell's going on?

Speaker 6 (01:08:18):
Right?

Speaker 8 (01:08:18):
But if it's inside, like the thirty or forty, I
guess it's a pretty cool vantage point.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
So where where do you? I mean, obviously Husky games
are in the press box, but if you were as
a fans have Seahawk tickets, where's the best place to
watch a game?

Speaker 8 (01:08:31):
Three hundred level front row, fifty yard line perfect, Perfect's
where I want to be.

Speaker 6 (01:08:35):
Yeah, don't want to be too low, don't want to
be too high.

Speaker 8 (01:08:38):
I think, uh yeah, I'm sending you a picture right
now where we're sitting right now, I'm sending it to
you and Jess.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
How that three hundred, three hundred level like Kingdom three
hundred level.

Speaker 8 (01:08:49):
Yeah, but I'm talking like fifty yard line front row. Yeah,
nobody's in front of you. That's the yard line seat
you get the whole stadium. Yeah, not too high, not
too low.

Speaker 6 (01:08:57):
It's great.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
I was thicking the old press box in the old
Atlanta and the old Georgia Doman Atlanta. It was like
probably maybe thirty rows up in midfield. It was absolutely perfect.

Speaker 8 (01:09:09):
Well, the new one, the new press box and the
new Mercedes yea sucks because it's totally enclosed. You can't
hear a damn fricking it's awful. We were there for
the Auburn game. Bush Hampden thought that Jake Browning was
Michael Vick and decides to run read option near the
goal line. Remember that, I like, good lord, I like
to call actually detaiose bastards that day.

Speaker 6 (01:09:29):
By the way, But.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Again, when you enclose in a press box, and we're
complaining about press boxes, but when you.

Speaker 6 (01:09:35):
Close the press but when you're a snobby, But when you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Close a press box in an in an indoor stadium, yeah, like,
why what are we doing here?

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
Well?

Speaker 8 (01:09:43):
I guess, I mean, my my point has always been, uh,
don't you want the media to hear the crowd and
hear how loud it is.

Speaker 6 (01:09:49):
That's how loud it is. All that in the environment.

Speaker 8 (01:09:52):
I mean, may as well have us just watching the
game on TV from home for crying out loud. So
I'm actually working with not that I'm working with these
people directly here, but look, longtime Husky employee Chip light
him I think has been here for about seventy five years.
I think Chip was actually born inside Husky Stadium and
someone just showed up and found him. So the school
adopted him, and he's been here for that long. I

(01:10:12):
wanted him to drill, like, you know, little holes in
the glass in the booth that we sit in so
we can hear the crowd and hear the referee and
hear the hear all the uh, you know, the environments.
So yeah, I might just have to bring my own
my own drill bit next year and do that myself.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
I'll go, well, when glass starts flying down into the
patrons below, that's saying there's.

Speaker 8 (01:10:31):
A separate kind of fancy drill you need to drill
through glass. Is that how that works?

Speaker 6 (01:10:35):
Nice idea.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Listen, was the last time you drilled anything? By the way,
I don't even know if we have a drill?

Speaker 6 (01:10:39):
Do you own a drill?

Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
My wife does?

Speaker 6 (01:10:41):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:10:42):
Is she more handy than you are?

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
What do you think? Of course, well I don't. And
her brother is he's a carpenter. So like when we
have stuff to you know, she's like, hey, we should
get this, and I'm like, well, who's gonna put it together?
And she goes, all right, well Tim will Michael?

Speaker 8 (01:10:55):
I just call I just called Gina's uncle, have him
come all round. It just takes care of it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
We just call uncle Tim. He puts it together. And
you know, I sit there the bird uncle bird's I don't.
I'm not handy, buddy, I'm not handy Canadian? Is that
what it is? I can drink, and I can eat,
and I can cook.

Speaker 6 (01:11:12):
I mean, what are Canadians really good for when it's
all said and done?

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Yeah, I think so let's see, uh, eating, drinking, cooking.

Speaker 8 (01:11:20):
Maybe you're freezing your ass off three and sixty four
days or your inside you're not doing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Anything, You're not freezing up there the oh well see
I just got the picture now that you didn't really
have to do that.

Speaker 8 (01:11:33):
It's a nice photo. Is Husky Stadium? Actually you know
my finger, Dick's finger?

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 6 (01:11:38):
Yeah? You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
That's kind of how I feel about Husky stadium too.

Speaker 6 (01:11:41):
I know you, I know you the stadium.

Speaker 8 (01:11:44):
What's your favorite Husky Stadium memory? I know the answer.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Well, Alex brink to for the touchdown at the end, right, No,
come on, dude, Uh well yeah, I mean I'm thinking.

Speaker 8 (01:11:56):
On a minute time out. You weren't a Cougar fan
back then. When did you become a coug eighty three
eighty three because you grew up a Husky fan. Yeah,
and then you kind of went to the dark side.
I saw the lights Dick Bard in reverse. Yeah, I
did reverse to Dick Bard. You know, I don't know
a lot of fans that have done that. I know
a lot of Cougars that became Huskies, but I don't

(01:12:17):
know a lot of Huskies.

Speaker 6 (01:12:18):
That became cougars. Man. No, that's like some kind of
like you know, bacteria.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Well, a lot of people that grew up here, grew
up a Husky fan, went to Wazoo and immediately started
hitting you guys a lot. Yeah, that's pretty much how
it was.

Speaker 6 (01:12:30):
I mean, Justinman gets paid.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
So eighty eighty five, eighty five, I was there pulling
cables for Como and when we Bruce Kingan broadcasting the
game and Mark Rippin lit him up. That was fun.
That was also there. They had to flush the toilets
and Husky Stadium all night long. They had a crew
to flush the toilet because it's so cool.

Speaker 8 (01:12:45):
So what what happened in eighty three that turned you
into a Cougar fan?

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
I went to Wazoo?

Speaker 6 (01:12:50):
You're that old?

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
Shut up?

Speaker 6 (01:12:52):
Holy hell?

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
Yes I am.

Speaker 6 (01:12:54):
That is that true?

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Look at me walking around around.

Speaker 6 (01:12:58):
You went to college in like the nineties.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
I wish, God, I wish you're not that muchy, You're
not that much younger than.

Speaker 6 (01:13:05):
Me, Dude, I graduated high school in nineteen ninety one.

Speaker 8 (01:13:08):
Okay, that you're eight years younger than me. I feel like,
what the hell happened fifty two years? You went to
Wazuo and you went to college when I was ten?

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
Yes, no way, is that right? Yeah? Because I was eighteen?

Speaker 6 (01:13:22):
Yes, god, that's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
And then I think we beat you three or four
years I was.

Speaker 8 (01:13:27):
I realize you're that old dude. Sorry, I apologize. Sorry,
I'm happy to be older more. I'm happy to be here, buddy,
happy to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
Happy to be here.

Speaker 6 (01:13:34):
You're getting some serious discounts now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
No, not yet.

Speaker 6 (01:13:37):
AARP all that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
They get those story you start getting those letters when
you're thirty?

Speaker 8 (01:13:41):
Do you qualify for a handicapped parking pass? Because you're
limping around like.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
A god, I need to find one, don't it?

Speaker 6 (01:13:46):
You look terrible? Are you're going to get that thing? Now?

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
It's brutal. It's brutal next week, right, both these are
all these Yeah, wow, it happens.

Speaker 8 (01:13:54):
I mean honestly, like, I'll just paint a picture and
Ian will probably agree with us. I see Ian Fernest
like maybe twice a week, because we'reunn rot all the time,
pretty sometimes like once a week, and every time I
see you, the first thing I think of is that guy's.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Gotta go to the job.

Speaker 6 (01:14:07):
Nope, a't your knees like that?

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
Well? And then I played terrible played golf yesterday.

Speaker 6 (01:14:12):
And watching you, I know, Yeah, how was your golfriend yesterday?

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Good play?

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Yeah, break fifty all arms, Oh yeah, all arms, all arms,
all arms. Oh we got a break. I'm being told
we got a break.

Speaker 8 (01:14:23):
Coming up on the show, Jonah Colem is going to
join us start running back for you, dub.

Speaker 6 (01:14:27):
He'll join us right at the top of the hour.

Speaker 8 (01:14:30):
Round three obviously gonna respond to Adam Silver's comments regarding
expansion of the Pat McAfee Show today. We'll get to that,
we'll get to Brett Boone, we'll get to Lanton zir Line.

Speaker 6 (01:14:40):
All coming up from you, dub, all right,

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