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Aaron Rodgers channels his inner Nicolas Cage, send a direct message to one team he wants to sign with and introduce Jonas to the term “M’s.” Big updates on the landscape of NIL and Producer Lee gives his movie review of Sinners, kinda.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:16):
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
So it is a football Friday.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
You know we're here, right, we're doing It's Friday, then
we're gonna do it. We're going Friday Friday, Friday, Friday Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's trapped.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Friday, Friday, Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Rug It too a feel.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
It is high hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
It is a football Friday here and we are talking
hold on, give me a second, all right, give me
a second. I'll show you in a minute. She ain't
go anywhere. You holding out, all right, So it is
a football Friday here. We talked about the Aaron Rodgers
sit down with Pat McAfee starring AJ Hawk and just

(01:47):
sort of airing out the New York Jets and the
clown organization.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
That is the New York Jets.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Earlier in the show, also heard in the sit down
with Pat McAfee was Aaron Rodgers discussing what the future
could look like. Obviously, there's been rubblings about the Steelers.
He even pointed to that that he went to Pittsburgh.
He drove a Chevy Malibu that he got from a
rental car spot from another airport to drive to the facility.

(02:17):
He talked about his relationship with Kevin O'Connell. They've been
friends for a long time. All of that was being had.
He talked about Brian day Ball, said he's got a
beautiful football mind. All of that being said, but this
was Rogers discussing where he's at on his career and
what his thoughts are in the future.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
You know, I'm in a different phase of my life.
I'm forty one years old. I'm in a serious relationship
off the field, stuff going on that requires my attention.
You know, to make a commitment to a team is
a big thing, whether you're a first year player or
a twenty year vet. I've been straight up with these
teams from the start about where I was at, you know,
starting with the money thing. You know, I told every
single one of the teams I talked to man about

(02:56):
the money I'll play for ten MS, but also the
conversation about where I was at in my personal life,
the stuff I'm dealing with off the field, in my
inner circle, that that has to take my attention right now.
And so I wasn't, you know, stringing anybody along. I
wasn't holding anybody hostage. I was honest from the jump
about where I was at mentally and some of the
constraints that I have in my life right now that

(03:18):
have to moreant my attention. So yeah, you know, I've
come open to anything and attached to nothing. So so yeah,
retirement still could be, could be a possibility, But right
now my focus has been and has been and will
continue to be in my personal life.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
So translation is going to be a little while. It's
going to be a little while before we get an answer.
It seems like from Rogers, I.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
Think one of the things that this is a dirty
truth of the NFL is the NFL and the teams
and the organizations they want you to be desperate. They
want the only thing you care about to be football,
and look, I don't I don't have a problem with it.
That's the business that they're in. You know, it's cutthroat,

(04:03):
it's winning and losing, and they want their players to live, eat, sleep,
breathe everything football. And I understand a lot of fans
out there too would say, well, that's how they should be,
considering that's your profession, it's your livelihood. You're getting paid
handsomely to do so. But there's another element to things

(04:24):
when you've played for twenty years. And I think the
writing's on the wall for Aaron Rodgers at this point.
Outside of getting another Super Bowl, he's going to be
a first ballot Hall of Famer. He's accomplished already a
ton in this league. And it's not the same I'll
call it desperation. Maybe there's not even the same motivation

(04:45):
when he was in his first few years and he
was trying to replace a Hall of famer, step in
to the shoes left behind a Hall of famer and
Brett Favre, or win that first Super Bowl, or get
that first MVP, or even prove the Green Bay Packers
wrong after they draft Jordan Love. And he've been winning
back to back MVPs. It just doesn't feel like there's

(05:06):
the same desperation or motivation as he once had, and
that to many teams is ridiculously unattractive and it bothers them.
And I think the only reason that Pittsburgh Steelers are
entertaining this is in part the relationship that Mike Tomlin

(05:27):
has with Aaron Rodgers, but also their desperation to get
a quarterback because they went through one of the guys
that was a free agent in Russell Wilson. He was
already there another guy who ended up going to the
New York Jets, the other New York team, so they
already had that. And outside of if this falls through,
maybe Kirk Cousins trying to make a trade for him,

(05:47):
they're not really in a great spot the draft one.
They're probably have to use draft capital to trade up
or hope someone falls to them, and then you're relying
on a rookie. So when you really look at the
landscape for Aaron Rodgers and Pittsburgh really being the only
suitor at least at this moment, maybe maybe Minnesota sneaks
back into it, right with how that was talked about

(06:08):
in the past months, But you hear this and you
just go That is part of the reason why he's
a bit polarizing to a lot of teams out there,
because it's not everything for him anymore. He's got a
personal life, He has an inner circle people he cares
about that at this point in time during the year
is more important to him than maybe football. And I'm

(06:29):
not saying that's a bad thing. I'm not saying that's
a good thing either. It's just how he chooses to
see it at this point time in his career, in
his life, when.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
I chose love, No, I ain't gonna go there. I
ain't even gonna go there. I'm not even gonna go there.
You know what though, he kind of sounds like Nick Cage,
doesn't He Like I started hearing like I started having
memories of con Air when he was writing like letters
due to his uh it was it his daughter that movie,

(06:59):
so he was going to come see his daughter and
stuff like that. He kind of sounds like Nick Cage
reading the letters to his daughter. You know what I
took from that was he's a calculated dude, very calculated,
and I think he takes tremendous pride and being wired

(07:21):
the way that he is, and why shouldn't he him
throwing out a figure. The things I find out to
be a tapeit peculiar. I feel like he's talking directly
to somebody, and I don't think it's the Pittsburgh Steelers,
and I don't think and that could be. I've been
trying to figure out why he hasn't signed with the

(07:42):
Steelers yet. Why you at the meeting, If you walked
away from the meeting feeling good about the meeting, why
don't you just sign with the team and get it going.
If you don't want to be around and you want
to be with your family and deal with your personal
stuff and all that, just let them know that coming
into it, that that's what you want to do. But
I'm a sign here with y'all and we're gonna make

(08:04):
this thing work. Why not do it that way? I
think there's something more to it. I'm starting to believe
that I don't think he wants to play for the
Pittsburgh Steelers. For one, I think that may be a lass,
maybe like a last decision, last made decision for one.
But for two, I think he's just too calculated to
have just, you know, just lobbed out there, what the

(08:27):
amount of money he would play for. I think he's
talking directly to somebody, and I don't know if that's
the Minnesota Vikings. I don't pretend to know who that's
being directed at, but I am my estimation hearing someone
as calculated and is as well spoken as he is
and stays in character. As I mentioned earlier on the show,

(08:50):
he lobbed that out there to somebody that was put
out there intentionally that had something connected to it, And
I just wonder, is it Menacela or who is it?
Who is it?

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah, the ten ms, I don't know, Like I didn't
even know that was a term for a million.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
It just seemed like it was kind of crow Bard
in there, do you know what I mean? Like, let
me just let it be made known to you in particular,
I'll do it for ten ms. It's not about the money.
It kind of comes across to me like maybe it's
Minnesota he's talking to, but maybe there's a team out
there that could use him that he would want to
play for, and he doesn't want it to turn into

(09:31):
we're not going to talk to you because of the
money aspect of it. Maybe that's what he I don't
know what he was going for, but that was directed
directly at somebody.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Do you think that if the options were better, he
would have already made his decision?

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Yes, I kind of think if Minnesota wanted him, he's
signed with Minnesota right now, agreed, agreed, So.

Speaker 6 (09:54):
Like that, he's got a spot right now on Lake Minnetaka.
He's probably you know, getting the dock all set up,
getting the boat all set up, maybe opening up the
pool to there. Ah, probably already has a spar hots
up going. But you, I would say, and he's getting
the grill ready, you know, not trying to let the
rain ruin the rub barb as they'd say up there.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Good call on that. So this is really an indictment
of the Steelers.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah, c Yeah, he sounds like him too. He don't
just look like him, he sounds like him. Gee crazy.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Well, I mean, but isn't this sort of an indictment
on the Steelers situation that it's not good?

Speaker 4 (10:35):
I don't think it's a positive glowing effect that comes
off of what the Pittsburgh Stealers represent right now, that
if you're an organization that players want to be a
part of, and they are clamoring to come be a
part of what it is that you got going on.
I don't think it's handled this way.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
I mean we made the we made the comp to
you know, you're at a bar. There's that one that's
ready and willing at ten pm and then they're still
there at one thirty one forty five and they're doing
last call and you're like, all right, fine, that's crazy,
like and it's just stealing.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Yeah, like to be that to like and that person
at the bar, they know they're the bottle caps person. Okay,
I guess you know that's why you do stuff like,
you know, you make a mess of a person's hotel
room or they're they're home, or you know, you you
do some stuff like that happens in the forty year

(11:31):
old Virgin or whatever it may be. You know, you
are the bottle cap choice. You are not the sober
cap choice. You're not the sober You're not you're not
the sober choice. You're looking through bottle caps.

Speaker 6 (11:45):
Should we have Lee actually waiting on this if we're
talking about you know, drunken sober.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Lee knows he's the bottle caps guy.

Speaker 7 (11:54):
Lee.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
You do know, if you get a good looking person
at the bar, and it's at the end of the night.
It was because you were the only choice that was left.
I ain't do really. Yeah, I don't complain about that.
I'll take it. They gotta know, really why, they gotta know,
because you're still gonna get the same results. Yeah, but
you just don't have to take it as far as

(12:16):
you would with the person they really liked.

Speaker 6 (12:18):
Maybe they get enchanted with Lee's you know, his eyes,
or his his overall general aura around him A great
he's got that magnetic personality.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
You had to be good enough to be an option.
Keep that in mind. You gotta be good enough to
be an option. You just aren't as good as the
first or however many options there are in between the
first option to you, and you gotta be okay with
accepting that. I've been that guy before. I've been that

(12:50):
guy before. Some of my closest friends are pretty mother lovers.
They are. I ain't as pretty as them. But one
thing that you find out when you're not the prettiest
dude and your crew is that they attract a lot
of pretty people and y'all can't have him. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 6 (13:08):
You get some leftover come on over, Come on over.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
And why do you think pigeons hang out underneath the
table at a park because they can't.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Hey, you can only eat so much. Something's dropping something,
and I'm gonna get it. One of them crumbs is
gonna be free with my name on it. You just
gotta be okay with it.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
By the way, we're using these comps for a first
ballot Hall of Fame quarterback.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
At the Steelers. That's great.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
One of the greatest organizations in sports.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
That's crazy.

Speaker 6 (13:41):
And also you keep going back to the Nick Cage thing,
which have an eerie similarity.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
To its crazy kind of crazy.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
What's he up to? Is he doing movies still?

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Lee?

Speaker 8 (13:52):
He has got a movie coming out called Surfers. I
believe that looks awesome.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
You know, so I didn't say he's doing good movies.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Nick Cage has done some good movies. Did you do
a movie about himself? Yeah? Him and Petro Pascal.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Did watch that, Him and travolt To do Face Off.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Wasn't a movie?

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Wait, what range he did one about himself?

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (14:15):
I can't believe he got snubbed by the Oscars.

Speaker 6 (14:19):
Let's go back to Face Off. That movie was way
before it's time. I mean, yeah, I ever ripping off
people's faces putting them on each other. Where's our technology there?
If we're not be able to do that, we can't.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
I mean people do I time, now you do.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Didn't even have to be the face. Things have really progressed.
Oh they really have.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
So it was before It's time. Yeah. I like that movie.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
It really really was.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (14:58):
Had the love interest in that movie? Remember at a
young age watching that thing that she was pretty hot?

Speaker 4 (15:02):
I forget. I don't know Lee, why Dominique Swain. Maybe
you should Brunette dirty Blood, I don't remember.

Speaker 6 (15:13):
Definitely like that.

Speaker 8 (15:16):
Oh I know who you're talking about. Lisa Boyle, Cindy.
She was Nicholas Cage's girlfriend.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yeah, m that's that's how he got in trouble in
con Air. Girl didn't there wasn't somebody pushing up on
his chick and then he like put the dude's you know,
nose bone in his brain or something like that and
that movie and went to jail because he was a
military man. I liked the movie actually good. Yeah, that

(15:43):
was pretty good. Great. They had some great actors and
Simmy was in there. Yeah, who else was in there?

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (15:51):
It wasn't. It wasn't Ring was in there, John John Malcovic,
wasn't virus Cyrus the virus. It wasn't Vin Rams And
I mean there was some good names in that movie, man. Yeah,
it was a cult classic.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Good names on the Jets last year too, they sucked.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
Dang.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Oh yeah, John Cusack, John Cusack. Chappelle's in there. I
forgot about Dave Chappelle. I knew Vin Raimes. Yeah he
is in there.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Danny Trejo, he's in there.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
You know, the dude with the chick with the afro
tattooed on him?

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Those Lee.

Speaker 6 (16:38):
Oh well, by the way, uh Lee, are you done
celebrating your birthday?

Speaker 3 (16:45):
It was still going on, still going baby an.

Speaker 6 (16:49):
Yeah, which night did you get the most hammered? I
think on your actual birthday? On tax Day?

Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (16:58):
Yeah, that was Taco Tuesday?

Speaker 4 (16:59):
R Tuesday.

Speaker 8 (17:00):
It's a good time. Where'd you go Morrison's for Taco Tuesday?

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Five dollars?

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Margerita sounds like a Hispanic name.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
That's very far away from being a Spanish name.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Where'd you go to Jamal's on Saint Patty's today?

Speaker 4 (17:16):
What you're trying to say, Dang, what you're doing, Jonas.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Where are you going to celebrate? Celebrate?

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Yeah, you show your true colors here, Hun, dang, what
are you talking about? That vampire talko?

Speaker 6 (17:33):
God?

Speaker 4 (17:35):
All right, take us a break, man, cool, get us
out of here. That'll wrap up our coverage of Aaron
rod Aaron Rodgers do in Pittsburgh by now, if he
wanted to be there, that's just what everybody needs to
be aware of. And I think that that's the moral
of this story and whoever it is he's talking to
that he's going to go play for Listen, I'll come
play for you. I want to play for you. I'll

(17:56):
do it for ten million. That's That's all I need
is ten now ms. I'm letting you know I need
ten ms.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
By the way, how rich are you that you call
it ten ms? Like ten ms?

Speaker 6 (18:07):
I think it was more like locker room talking to
the dudes in locker room.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
I agree, I wish would be sweet. Cats call them bands?
You know, what's that? Like? A g G? What's a
g grand? What's wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Man?

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Just don't know these terms? Oh my gosh? What hey said?
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(20:09):
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about twenty minutes from now, we are going to close
up shop with a little something called Lee's Leftovers and
on a football Friday, who the hell knows where that's
gonna go? Lee, you got some spicy stuff for us
on a football Friday or what?

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Let's to look ahead too.

Speaker 8 (20:24):
We have Easter Sunday falling on a four to twenty,
so who knows what happens there.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
They're going to get a lot of high people celebrating Jesus. Yeah,
who knows what's in that egg? And recapping an interesting
night for me last night? And yeah, we'll see what happens. Oh,
that's good. All right. That's good.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
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(21:03):
the Syracuse head coach, was talking with w T L
A a M. And had this to say about paying
wide receivers in this new nil landscape.

Speaker 11 (21:14):
All the respect to everybody in the country, to every
wide receiver, to everybody that's doing all this stuff. Like
if you want to make two million out wide receiver,
that's to blow a homie over at Ohio State. Ain't
nobody else making that money given no wide receiver, No
two million dollars playing in college.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
No, that ain't me. I ain't doing that. I can't
do it.

Speaker 7 (21:35):
Unless they tell me that we get a chance to
have Travis Hunter. He could come back to college and
he could come here and play for Ards.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Then he gonna get some of my yet.

Speaker 7 (21:44):
But I ain't paying nobody two thousand this year not
to meet two million whatever I just said.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
He ain't giving nobody that so least. You know, he
sounded like he's from where I came from. He from
straight the way. What's his name? Where's he original from?
He talks like Brown, the head coach of Syracuse. Yeah, yeah,
I would wonder where he's from. Let me look up
where fran Brown is from. He talked like he from Homewood.

Speaker 6 (22:09):
Man, He's originally from Camden, New Jersey.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yeah, yeah, same deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Camden is like Homewood.

Speaker 12 (22:19):
Yeah about thousand oaks. He wouldn't be like a thousand
California guy. Okay, No, he did a hell of a
job in his first year, I know that. And he's
recruited his ass off wherever he's been.

Speaker 6 (22:30):
You know, he did a Georgia George did a hell
of a job, even during this time of Rutgers for
their standards. But he's not wrong. I mean, there's here's
the thing about an I l and not that we
have to keep pounding the pavement on this entire conversation.
I just said, you guys, by the way, really interesting
article that just came out in regards to the transfer
portal and Division one basketball players. But there's only one

(22:53):
percent of the players that are taking the lion's share
of what's out there. And I think that gets lost
sometimes in regards to really what a lot of these
student athletes are making. And I also think and I
gets a bad rep because we see a situation like
niko Ea Malaiyava and we watch how it plays out

(23:13):
and we scorn the NCAA and everyone else involved as
part of the process. And whether it's you know, blaming
the parents, blame the agents, wherever it all goes, the
truth is you're looking at a world where there are
no boundaries. Like people act like you want to do
the same thing if you're in their shoes. And as

(23:35):
I sit here today and look at what some of
these players are asking for or taking the just the
opportunity to go out and see what their market value is,
a lot of people probably do the same thing. So look,
there is only one player in the country, a wide
receiver that deserves to get two million or maybe even
more than that, and that is Jeremiah Smith at Ohio State.
All Right, he is the player that's going to be

(23:57):
considered when he is draft eligible to be the number
one overall pick because he is that good and he's
that ready for the NFL. He would be the number
one player maybe taken in this year's draft if he left.
And he's coming off as true freshman season. So I've
had high praise for him since I watched him in
high school. He's rare. That's a once in a generation

(24:18):
talent and young man who's ready for that sort of
competition at such a young age. But ran Brown's not wrong.
And unfortunately, the truth is there's players who are going
to test it to see what they can make, to
try to line their pockets while they can and take advantage.
And there's some who don't prioritize that. And by the way,
there's some that don't. It's not some, it's more the majority.

(24:39):
I think it's interesting. I was talking to man man
like because we're living it right now.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
We're in then io age and my son is a freshman.
He's not even a true freshman yet. He's an early
and row lee in school and we just were having
the conversation and you know the one thing that I'll
say every one of these kids out here and every

(25:05):
one of these families out here aren't bent on trying
to get as much out of nil as they possibly
can squeeze out of it, I will say, and having
the conversation with him, just listening to his mindset and
some of the guys that are you know, in and

(25:25):
around that that are in this college landscape, there really
are guys that truly are focused in on keeping the
main thing, the main thing, which is getting their education
and playing at the highest level that they can play at.
If you're a four star, five star guy coming out

(25:46):
of high school, or you're in college and you're you've
become an All American or you've all you're All Conference,
there are going to be a lot of opportunities for
you to make appearances, for you to do things that will,
you know, get you a check. I just think that
it's nice to know that there are still a lot

(26:06):
of young aspiring talents that are just going there to develop,
going there to want to go figure right, leave a
lasting impression on on the college landscape of what it
was that they were able to do and impact the game.
I think the young people that are able to do

(26:29):
that and it's not you know, corroded or diminished by
greed of people that are outside of you know themselves
that you know, it could be parents, it could be
managers or agents or whatever it is that that you know,
these guys have these days. I think if they continue

(26:49):
to keep the focus in on what it really represents
to go to college and play ball there, I think
that I think that that's a very very commendable, a
commendable thing. And so while it's like so much Nil talk,
Nil Nil, there are a lot of young people that

(27:11):
are in college right now that aren't looking to try
to take advantage of a coach, or trying to take
advantage of the university, or you know, trying to leverage
all these different things that's going on. And I thought,
I think that that should be stated because I really
feel as though NIL has really opened up a very
very negative type of approach to talking about college sports anymore.

(27:37):
And we were so inundated with the Nico you know,
I'm gonna leave you know, stories that are out there
and what may take place with this player or who's
making this much money in this that and the other.
Like Q said, there's a small minute percentage of people
that are commanding the type of dollars that are being

(27:59):
taughtund and yet there's an entire narrative that is it
has really developed and has taken shape and taken hold
of college sports, college football.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
And I don't know that that's necessarily true.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
There are a lot of stories that would not only
balance out, but would really drown out the amount of
attention being put on the greedy ones, I'll say, the
ones that are looking for those big ass paychecks and
all those different things. Sure, that's becoming polarizing and commanding

(28:35):
headlines and getting clicks, but there are a lot of
young dudes out there that are doing this thing the
right way and still look at it as I want
to be a dope football player first, and it's not
just about trying to get the money out of the
universities and all that stuff. I'm here to play. I
want to have a great relationship with my teammates. I

(28:56):
want to have a great relationship with the community that
I'm a part of. I found that to be pretty
refreshing to hear that from my own child in the scenario,
because a lot of this conversation is circulating not only
in the media, but it's circulating amongst them as well,
and it's a matter of how they're able to internalize

(29:20):
and digest what's being put out there and what's being discussed,
what's realistic and what isn't. And I think that that's
something that should be stated.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Brady mentioned this the article from Ross Ellinger speaking of
the situation in college. Ad Advisor is, a consulting firm
for athletic departments, released today a comprehensive study on the
basketball transfer portal dating back to twenty nineteen. In it,
they found that approximately sixty five percent of all Division

(29:50):
one basketball playing student athletes who enter the transfer portal,
regardless of the competition level their career begin at, either
transferred down a level or did not find a new
home at the highest competition level. In the study, the
Power for Conferences in the Big Ee, seventy percent of
student athletes who entered the portal transferred down or did
not find a new home. At the lowest competition level,

(30:13):
which was the majority of D one programs, sixty one
percent of student athletes who entered the portal transferred down
or did not find a new home.

Speaker 6 (30:21):
For those two but we got to put into context
because there are some things that aren't pointed out, like
you don't know the eligibility issues or rules, which could
have been a reason why they actually ended up not
finding at home. Okay, that's one problem issue with this
that I think everyone's trying to sort out too, how
you can simplify it but also make it easier for

(30:41):
student athletes if they do want to transfer, to still
keep the main thing the main thing, and that's to
get their degree, so they're not leaving after their athletic
career and having nothing to really go off of into
the business world. There's also a thought that, well, if
they're moving to lower ranked teams, it's kind of how
it works. There's players who are transferring from teams that

(31:03):
are higher ranked, better teams they're not either playing or
there's people who are offering them more on other teams
that need it. So you know in reading that it's
like a jarring stat but it's also not paying the
entire picture, like, of course you're gonna have players even
in football, for example, who leave Ohio State, who leave
Notre Dame, who leave like Penn State top programs and

(31:26):
go to smaller schools to play, or they might be
getting offered more money there because they're more valued there,
So that doesn't stand out to me so much. I
think if you had an exact percentage of players that
didn't find a home that would be that would be
more of what I would focus on from this article
that I think is significant is figuring out how you

(31:48):
can educate young people to say, like, maybe it's better
to stay and see this out. Maybe you get an opportunity,
maybe you don't, but at least you have a degree.
In the end.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
That should be at least you have a degree. You
have the opportunity to get the degree that you gain
that knowledge, you gain that understanding, you have direct connection
to your community. I always tell guys and I tell
my kids this, Now, make sure you have your job
lined up before you graduate. I don't know who confused

(32:22):
you on thinking you should be one of these trust
fund babies, which they are. But you're not going to
go travel for ten years, fifteen years and then decide
what you want to do. That's not how we're going
to do it. In our house. You have your job
lined up, you have your people lined up, You have
your your conversations, your allies, your connections, your relationships, you

(32:47):
have all those things lined up before you leave school,
because the moment you get that degree, the moment you lead,
depending on what line of work you're in, you're already overqualified.
You're not going to get a job that you're looking
for just going out there in the regular market, because
they're gonna look at you like, yeah, you're too qualified
for us to bring you in at this entry level position.

(33:09):
We're going to go with this person over here, whatever
it may be. Leverage your community because even after you're
done playing I did not go to school for media
media broadcasts. I did not. I took classes, I studied it,
I worked at it to get better at being able

(33:29):
to do it. But that's not what I went to
school for. I wanted to be a counselor, and so
once I got done playing ball, even while I was
playing ball, the reason why I got opportunities to do media,
it was always a Penn State ard that was hiring me.
And that's a true story. Every single time. Early on,
I had no experience, none of that. And the person,

(33:53):
the person Sam Sam happens to be his name not
Iyo Sam, Penn State Sam. He was a Penn Stater
and he worked at CBS radio, and he gave me,
gave me the opportunity to do radio and learn radio.
He taught me how it worked and all the different
things that went into it. And he's a Penn Stater.

(34:16):
You know, a lot of the opportunities that I see
and I'm able to take advantage of are just conversations
within my Penn State community. And we all have that opportunity.
So there's a lot more value there than just going
there and being a mercenary and having them pay you
and they don't pay you enough, you go play somewhere else.

(34:37):
Even if you don't play a whole lot, there's tremendous
value to staying there and being immersed in the community
that you're attending the school for. It's just simple arithmetic,
if you ask me. Even if it doesn't play out,
and even if it does play out well for you

(34:57):
plan on the field, you're still going to most likely
live more life than you did playing at the professional
level six seven years. If you have a fifteen twenty
year career, that's that's rare. But what one great enjoy that.
But the reality of it is is that your value
is what you build relationship wise within the community that

(35:20):
you're servicing, especially as it applies to the college institution
that you attend.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
All State College led you to a radio listen to college.
I'm Brady's radio mentor, and I worked at Chunky Cheese.
See dang, it's all the same thing.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
Well that which is surprising again going back to one
of our conversations earlier in today's show again walking out
of Radio Roads super Bowl and then you know Lvar
with his swag, you know it kind of how I walk,
probably with a little bit of a limbit because I
messed up feet. And then there's Jonas it looks like
the damn tin man. I mean, you had to have
a little bit of a wiggle in order to be

(35:56):
the rat at Chucky Cheese, and you've got to shake
that asse at some point.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah, but I mean I'm suffering the side effects of
all that. You know, it's a daunting task, adn job,
and it's good to see, man, you know, to fight
through all that, and plus the amount of weight that
I lift, like Brady, come on, man, you know the
joints have seen some damage.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
So it happens. Bud.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Hey, we're all together here on a football Friday, and
we'll close up shop with another edition of Lee's Leftovers.
It's sure to be a spicy one. According to Lee,
that'll be yours next year as it's two pros and
a cup of joe In For Dan Patrick here on
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
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Speaker 2 (36:43):
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(37:27):
The Dan Patrick Show. But right now we close up
shop with this.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Please might smell a little fun ca what is that?

Speaker 6 (37:33):
Sounds incredible?

Speaker 1 (37:34):
But they're still good. Time to find out what's lack?
It's Lee's lap jobs.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
All right to lap what do we got?

Speaker 4 (37:42):
All right?

Speaker 8 (37:43):
Well, before we get to the weekend ahead. Last night,
I wanted to share a story I went to go see. Well,
first of all, my dinner was canceled. My birthday dinner
was canceled, so that was a shame.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
Ended up going to go.

Speaker 8 (37:52):
See the first Imax showing of Sinners, which it comes
out this weekend with Michael B. Jordan, and had a
nice little surprise. Ryan Coogler, the director, came out. He
gave a little speech beforehand. If you don't know Ryan Kugler,
he's directed the likes of Black Panther, uh and Creed
movies all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
So yeah, well Conda forever, man, let's Ryan Kugler. Dude,
Come on, man, will Conda forever? You all know who
Ron Cougler is. Come on, man, space jab Lebron's space
jab there he is right there.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
That's called the movie is called Sinners.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
Yeah, great movie. Go see. It's like like a almost
like a horror flick kind of sol.

Speaker 8 (38:31):
Yeah, I don't want to give away the big surprise
in it, but yeah, how do you know those surprise
because he went to see it?

Speaker 4 (38:37):
I went to see it.

Speaker 6 (38:38):
Oh yeah, you get that access that you shouldn't get.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Yeah, he can't tell Nodays movies.

Speaker 8 (38:44):
Movie's actually, you know, premiere around three pm or seven
pm on Thursdays now instead of Fridays.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Were you on that liver loop while you're in the
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
No, yeah, I passed out at the end. I missed
the end, missed the end. So how do you know
it again? I don't want to go see it.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
I don't want to give away the ending. Oh don't worry.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
I didn't see it.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
By the way, did they know this is how you behave?

Speaker 2 (39:09):
You're supposed to be like watching their movie and discussing it.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Do they know how you behave?

Speaker 2 (39:14):
In there?

Speaker 8 (39:14):
This one was open to the public. I'm free to
do whatever whatever I want.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Well, you got, Butchered admits the ending.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
I did. That's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
I don't want to give it away.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
I gotta go see it.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Oh, don't worry. He can't give it away enough to
know I was very tired.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
How much?

Speaker 3 (39:29):
How what did you drink?

Speaker 4 (39:31):
We went to get sushi.

Speaker 8 (39:33):
Before and the lady who was at the sushi bar
was very nice. She kept on pouring us rice wine.
So we had a couple of hot soaks, some beers,
and some rice wine.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Okay, and that's it. Well, and I was just really tired.
Who were you with?

Speaker 4 (39:50):
I was with of course Todd? Okay, okay, did you
bring a flask in? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (39:56):
I did, so you had more than this.

Speaker 8 (39:59):
Yeah, there's a litt tequila there too, some tequila in
the flask.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
All right?

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Did some people know the new audience it's an interrogation
room because there's always more that you could squeeze out
of this.

Speaker 6 (40:11):
You know that.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
You just got to keep asking questions.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
You know. There was a beat box in there too.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Was there at a beat box too?

Speaker 8 (40:17):
Oh my gosh, that was for the movie. Yeah, I
gave you the pregame during the movie. You had a
beat box.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
And well, there you go. That makes it all make sense, Rady,
that's your guy, that's my guy.

Speaker 8 (40:30):
And then of course I got in trouble with the
lady Fred because she wanted to see the movie with me,
and I went.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
Without her, and I saw Ray Cougler. She's very high,
And weren't you excited that you didn't take the lady
with you? I was excited I got to see Ryan Cougler.
That was cool. Didn't make you happy that you felt
the freedom of hanging with Todd void of any type
of drama or any type of confusion or conflict. Yeah,
And he introduced me to chicken bake from Costco. What

(40:58):
is that? What is that? It's like so good?

Speaker 8 (41:00):
It's uh, I describe it kind of like a hot
pocket but better.

Speaker 13 (41:05):
It's like a roll of bread that's been stuff with
like chickens, Caesar dressing and bacon, all the healthy stuff.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
Yeah, that doesn't sound healthy to me. No, definitely was not. Huh.

Speaker 13 (41:18):
All right, it's so good. It's a good five dollars.
It's like four dollars and can get it like hot
and just right away.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
Rank everything's cheap there. So enjoy WrestleMania forty one, Easter
and four twenty. I'm gonna enjoyed these.

Speaker 8 (41:35):
John Cena, looking to surpass Rick Flair for the all
time record seventeen world champion.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
I can't wait to bet on WrestleMania.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Oh I got the inside on. I'll let you know
when we get off air. Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah,
Because John Wrestling isn't it's not real. But I just
sent you oh joking, I'm joking. Do have a great weekend.
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