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April 23, 2025 41 mins

Dan is live from Green Bay, getting you ready for tomorrow’s NFL Draft and thinks Ashton Jeanty will be the wildcard. And former Cowboys DE Marcus Spears stops by to talk about what Jerry Jones has planned with the 12th pick.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Well, we did it. We made it to Wisconsin. We
made it to Green Bay, and Wisconsin always has a
soft spot in my heart. When we first started this show,
when I left the mother Ship, we were on twenty
seven radio stations around the country. Seven were in the
state of Wisconsin. So the people who showed up early,

(00:26):
we had people who got in line at three point
thirty in the morning. We got a wonderful crowd here
at the bar on Homegrown Way. This is your cue
to make a little noise there. Yeah, it's an extremely
polite perraud here today, extremely polite Crown. But they haven't
had their first beer yet, so it's early. But thank

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hang with us from four to six, a meet and
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all right, the gang's all here, ready to go Pauly's
here's Seaton, the King of comedy, Fritzy and Marvin. Last
night we were at an event for Doug Gottlieb, a
fundraiser for his basketball team, Wisconsin Green Bay, and there
was a woman there who said, you know, she wait,

(01:32):
I can't tell the story. It's over there, okay. So
all of a sudden I walk in and she is
staring at Seaton and she goes, you're my favorite. Kept
whispering and she thought that seatan was Fritzy.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Oh my godess you Hey, you're my favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
And Seaton goes, do I break the news tour? I said, well,
it's a better story if she thinks you're Fritzy. I mean,
I wouldn't feel good if somebody thought I was Fritzy. Yeah, no,
it's not. But then eventually Fritzy was sitting down and
she goes, I'm so sorry, and I go why and

(02:16):
she goes, oh, your voice you're making me cry. It's
going to go away in three years. I got my voices.
She goes, no, you're going away in three years. Can
I sit on Fritzy's lap? And you were sitting there?
I know, I know, I said, yeah, go sit on
his lap, and you know what, you didn't object. It
was like a woman you don't know walks over and

(02:38):
sits on your lap, and you make it seem like
that's just a normal day. It was initially.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Flattered, but she was significantly intoxicated, so I don't know
what she.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Was looking at her blurry eyes and condition. Would she
sit on your lap? She had to be drunk to
sit on your lap.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
She was very loud and boisterous during the whole events,
yelling things and I'm like, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Okay, all right? But it was a nice fundraiser for
Doug Gottlie. People Join is coming up a little bit
later on the Packers head coach Matt Lafleur stopspy Frank Caliendo.
We got a chance to spend time with Frank last night.
He's a genius. He is so much fun. He'll join us.
And Marcus Spears of the Mothership, who I think was
taken the pick before Aaron Rodgers was drafted. Does that

(03:18):
sound right, Pauline?

Speaker 5 (03:19):
That would be the five draft Rogers went to Green Bay.
Of course with number twenty four, I got Marcus Spears
going twenty to Dallas, so four picks before.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Oh wow, okay, so the big swag OUs he's known
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couple of things here watching last night, Marvin and I
were out having a beverage and we were watching the

(04:09):
Lakers game. Although you know there was a moment there
where JJ Reddick went off on the Lakers. I'm thinking
the Lakers are playing pretty well against Minnesota, ended up winning,
and this is JJ Reddick talking about his outburst during
a timeout, not frustration, just coaching.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
I think when we were organized in the right spots,
we did that. We ran some good stuff and frankly,
I thought we missed some open threes, ar got some
great looks. So I mean, other than you know, just
a couple disorganized plays. You know, we played good offense tonight.
He as a coach, you can see it coming when
the other side of that is on the horizon, and

(04:47):
it was building, and just wanted to make sure everybody
was on the same page.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
There were quite a few f bombs dropped during the
time out, just a few, just a couple. That's weird
though You're watching JJ redick up and f bombs to
Lebron and Luca and you know, but he was just saying,
I don't care who you are. Let's not lose focus
here and let Minnesota get back in this. But Lakers
and Minnesota tied at a game apiece, Pacers up two

(05:12):
to OHO in the Bucks Thunder two to ozho on
the Grizzlies. At least Memphis didn't lose by fifty this
time around, So congratulations Memphis. Some nice consolation prizes there,
Magic Celtics, Heat, Calves, Warriors, and the Rockets but the
big news, obviously being in Green Bay is the draft.
And here we are on the eve of the first
round of the draft, and you're trying to get some

(05:34):
kind of information. I saw Daniel Jeremiah, who will be
working the draft for NFL Network last night, and he
reiterated what he said on Pardon might take that with certainty,
the Browns are going to draft Travis Hunter. He will
major in offense and minor in defense, which seems to

(05:55):
be the opposite of what a lot of scouts have
told me. They would want him to be every down
defense and that he would be put in with certain
packages on offense.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Yes, PAULI, Yeah, I saw a little bit of that
on NFL Network yesterday as well, and they said that
on defense, there's opportunity to rest Travis Hunter. Like let's
say it's a third and one and a fourth and
one where he's not needed to make a tackle. He
could sit for a player too, So maybe it maybe
forty plays on defense, seventy on offense.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
And I'm looking at the NFL Draft props over under
quarterbacks taken in the first round minus one twenty for
two and a half quarterbacks. I keep thinking Jackson Dart's
going in the first round and Shadoor Sanders cam Ward's
going number one overall. Now, there was talk this morning
and last night that the Giants did try to make

(06:41):
an effort to go up to number one, which tells
me they're not sold on Shudor Sanders. They did this
private workout. But if you're going up reportedly going up
to try to get the number one pick to take
cam Ward, doesn't sound like you're all in on Shudor Sanders,
because if you were, you'd be like, we're comfortable where
we are at number three. But if you have cam Ward,
it's true. I have a hunter. Now the Giants seem

(07:02):
to be open for business. Are you going to take
Abdul Carter? I still think Ashton Genty is the wild
card here. I think if somebody moves up, that might
be the guy that they would move up for. And
I don't know. Once again, you're trying to sift through
smoking mirrors at this time at the draft. Nobody's really
going to tell you unless you have somebody who says, hey,

(07:24):
I'll tell you, but don't tell anybody, which you can
never do in this business because that means, hey, I'm
not supposed to tell you, but or don't tell anybody.
I'm telling you this. That's how you know, word gets around.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yes see right, if there's one thing that this business
cannot resist, it's I know a little more than you
Slash I called it.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, yeah, but I you know, it's a weird draft
because I don't know you're looking for buzz. We've tried
to create buzz. And that's Sherdor Sanders. That's it. Because
other than that, Ashton Genty, is he going to go
in the top five? Does somebody fall? It's you know,
Mike Tannenbad, the former GM of the Jets. He goes, hey,

(08:04):
it's a draft full of defensive linemen. Wow, okay, this
is I mean, while that's true, Yeah, while it's true,
it's not like you go coming up, you know which
defensive lineman you know? Will whoever take? It's not sexy.
I was watching The Mothership yesterday and they were talking
about the Cowboys and the players the Cowboys would be

(08:26):
interested in. So they're all skill position players. It's running back,
a wide receiver, tight end. And then Mike Tannemom goes,
well that could happen. But there a lot of defensive
linemen in this draft. Well, nobody wants to hear that.
It's like, hey, are you going to go as scripted here?

Speaker 7 (08:43):
You know?

Speaker 2 (08:44):
And by the way, Jerry Jones is hinted that maybe
being all in means that they're going to make some traits.
Now he is hinted at that. Whether that's I don't
even know why you would hint at it. Yeah, surprise everybody,
but Jerry can't resist. But they might be a team
that And I really think the Cowboys would be in

(09:05):
the market for Ashton Genty. He won't be there when
they're what's their draft pick twelve twelve, Okay, probably won't
be there, but can you jump up maybe to five
or six and try to get him? You know, Jerry
loves shiny objects, and Ashton Genty is a really good player.
If you're all in on the so called new NFL that, hey,

(09:27):
we value running backs now for a change.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
Could you imagine if this draft someone trades up for
a running back or maybe with Omaryon Hampton from UNC
two running backs. You mentioned that five draft, the first
pick was Alex Smith. Three of the next four picks
of the first round were running backs. Ronnie Brown, Cedric
Benson and Cadillac Williams all taken the top five. That's
that's never gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Noh, dang. Let me see.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
By the way, old draft Talk is just the best
in the.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Shador Sanders to be drafted by the Steelers plus one
point eighty the odd for him to be the second quarterback,
minus two to fifty Jackson Dart second quarterback drafted, plus
two hundred Ashton Genty to be a top five pick. This,
according to DraftKings, is minus one sixty. So you're saying
there's a chance, but Cam wore the overwhelming favorite to

(10:16):
be the number one pick in the draft seat and
you're doing the poll questions, what do you have for
the first hour of the program. Well, we might as
well start right there. Paul just sent this one over.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
If you were betting Shador Sanders will be drafted top
five or second round.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Oh, those are the only two options?

Speaker 8 (10:31):
Are the only two options? Top five, second round?

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Scalding second round?

Speaker 8 (10:37):
We said top ten or second round, No.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Because I'd probably go top ten, you would, yeah, probably,
but I yeah, I got to get Yeah, it's better
top five or second round. That's pretty good. What else?
What else, do you have.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Another one here from Paul, which would be toughest being
a Bears fanlyving in Green Bay, a Jets fan living
in Boston, or a Commander's fan living in Dallas.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Okay, run the options. So a Bears fan here in
Green Bay. By the way, I did meet a guy yesterday.
I took a walk and I went in to order
my Starbucks. And I've walked back to the hotel where
we're staying and a guy in a white jeep pulled up,
rolled down his window. Hey are you Dan Patrick, he said, sometimes,

(11:32):
and he goes, I heard you ordering your Starbucks, and
so he was following me. So I'm in a fine yeah.
So his name was Whitey, and he had a white
jeep and he is a Lions fan here in Green Bay.
And so we had a long conversation about that that,
you know, a displaced Lions fan. But Whitey, who was

(11:54):
stalking me, maybe kind of creepy, but very nice man.
With the first handshake. I will see this. Green Bay
leads the league in firm handshakes. Oh yeah, even the
women women. Yes, firm handshake, Yeah, firm, very firm.

Speaker 8 (12:12):
Everybody's classic.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
That's what we're known for firm handshaker billboard and and
everybody says a load to you. You don't have to wait,
you know, because we're in New York, and you know,
usually people don't see they don't say anything to you,
but here they're like, how are you doing. I'll be like, great, great,
as long as you're not whitey in a jeep and

(12:35):
you're kind of you know, stalking me. Huh, yeah, I
heard the voice, Yes, Tod.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
It's weird when someone said, what do you think of
green bas up on, you're just gonna go. I am
just at the air for.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
And nobody has seen less of Green Bay than you.
You've been in your hotel room the entire.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
A lot of hours, still trying to find that Chinese
fruit spots.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah. Yeah, well we'll see if we can come up
with a Chinese food restaurant for you. All right, So
we'll settle on that pole question. Ah yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
So the options were Bears fan living in Green Bay,
being a Jets fan living in Boston. That's not ideal,
that's not idea.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, but I don't think they look at like, who
cares about a Jets fan in Boston? They're not any good.
So you're like, no, it's it's like.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
It might actually be a Dolphins fan living in New York.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
How about a Patriot fan in Buffalo.

Speaker 8 (13:28):
Well, the other option here is Commander's fan in Dallas.
That's not great.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
That's I would say an Eagles fan in Dallas.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Well, I think we took Philadelphia off the board because
that is the runaway winner. Being a fan of any
team living in Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Is literally the worst place to be. That would be rough.

Speaker 8 (13:44):
Yeah that's just Philly.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Love Philly.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
But yeah, not it anything West Coast.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
We're a little.

Speaker 8 (13:54):
You know, Midwest Giants fan living in LA.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Like Seahawks fan living in San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
I don't know. I don't know. Do they hate each
other on the West Coast. I don't know. They kind
of chill, yeah, like we're okay. Yeah. More is Giants
Dodgers the most inten in the West Coast. Yeah that's bad.
Oh yeah, you're right that one. But we're talking football wise,
but yeah, that one, that one's bad. Oh, don't wear

(14:25):
Cardinals jersey in San Francisco really no, no, of course,
nobody nobody cares about the car. Like there's certain fan
bases where you go, oh, you know, it's like tapping
the little kid. Oh they got cute. You got your
little jersey guys. Yeah, look at choosing little Fitzgerald. Uh,

(14:45):
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it's two forty nine to one seventy nine, second largest
point differential through the first two games of a playoff

(16:11):
series in NBA history. Congratulations, But Memphis, at least they
made it a little more interesting. Now I started to watch.
They missed their first ten shots, so the worst start
in a playoff game in franchise history. But they get
bounced there. Lakers even their series and the Pacers. Pacers

(16:31):
are a good team. I know this is a Bucks
team that's a little wounded, but the Pacers are a
good team, and they go up too low. And I
do wonder about this with Giannis. If he looks at
the future and he sees that future is not in Milwaukee,
is he going to stay there? Does he want to
stay there? The Celtics are still a i mean, verge

(16:52):
of the dynasty here, and Cleveland's a young team as well.
So just look at the East and you know the
pecking order the Bucks, and then you wonder are they
going to make changes with Doc Rivers. We don't know
what's happening with Dame and his future there as well.
But and they got Kyle Kuzma. They traded Chris Middleton.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
Yes, Paulin, you know how I have a disdain for
the actor Bill Pullman. I think he's kind of an empty.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
It's well well documented.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
Kyle Kuzma is the Bill Pullman of the NBA for Wow. Yeah,
I think he is an unthreatening, non threatening whatever word
you want to say, non threatening NBA player.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
He had twelve points last Oh yeah, yeah, yes, you
mean NBA champion Kyle Kuzma. Did he win one in
the bubble? But it was the bubble doesn't count? Why
is it? It counts for every other player but Lebron
when he won in the bubble. Yeah, but he wanted
Michael never needed to be in a bubble. Yeah, Michael

(17:49):
never would have.

Speaker 8 (17:49):
COVID couldn't be sure COVID didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yes, I read that. Yeah. By the way, if you're
watching on Peacock, we have the rematch here with pickleball,
and uh, Fritzie is being a gamer because uh the
first match. Who did Fritzie won the first match? Right,
Pauli and Fritzy And so it's uh, I don't know

(18:13):
how long it's gonna go. It could be three sets
to win the rematch. But Marvin is finally playing left handed.
He figured out that you can play with your dominant hand,
which was still weird every day. Yeah, and Seaton, but
Fritzy has planner of fasci eyo. Yeah, Todd gets locked in.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
There's something about like when you're playing any kind of
sports against whether it was pickleball, whether it's whiffleball or whatever,
Todd locks in and he is an unbelievable competitor, and
it's off putting.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
It is.

Speaker 8 (18:43):
It's kind of like, WHOA, what the hell's going on here?
How am I getting my ass kicked?

Speaker 2 (18:46):
I don't know. I didn't realize.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
I was like that that Poulie was the competitive what
he likes to make sure he knocked me out.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Of the way.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
But I got Yeah, I started making this angry face
that I get all sweaty, and I looked next thing,
and everybody's like, what easy?

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Just because it's game. By the way, your nipples get hard,
I get excited. Well, I enjoy playing sports. I'm just saying, okay,
I think the women at the pickleball place were a
little unnerved. The owners that, uh, but you you had
your game faces. You had get your game body. It's there.

(19:17):
What a guy has to say? Eyes up here? What
are you looking at? You're the only one I know
wearing peasties when you're out there. He is Marcus Spears.
He is the ESPN analyst, former defensive end, first round
pick twentieth overall by the Cowboys, and of course a
national champion at LSU. He's part of the draft. You
can catch Marcus with Dan Orlovsky. Meta comes Ryan Clark

(19:40):
Lower Rutledge today for Eastern Extended editions on Thursday and Friday.
Please welcome front of the show. Marcus Spears. I go
trub Marcus. Yeah, right there, Marcus looks like he's in
in game. Shit, do you think you're give me a

(20:02):
couple of downs? Yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 9 (20:04):
My wife a couple of weeks ago was like, I'm
tired of you being fat.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Wow, but you made a living being that way.

Speaker 9 (20:11):
You can make a change then, yeah, yeah, but I
don't have to make that living anymore. So, you know,
it's a it's a heavy burden to try to get
weight off.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Man. The biggest player you played against was who Larry Allen? Okay, yeah,
but he was just a teammate Yeah, that was practice. Yeah,
that was double teams in practice. That was Yeah, that's
a bad day. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (20:30):
My first game actually was against Willie Rolfe when he
was in Kansas City. Now he was one hundred years old,
but it did not feel like it.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
It did not feel like it. It felt like he
was twenty. So what's different about somebody that size?

Speaker 9 (20:45):
Well, yeah, I mean, look, my job in my defense
was to hold those guys up so our linebackers could
make plays. So imagine somebody asking you to hold up
four hundred pounds sixty times like we You know, I
was in the league when we when they ran the
football all game like I wish I played now, probably

(21:06):
be a lot healthier and a lot more mentally stable,
but ultimately it was it was what I had to do.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, yeah, the game made me that way really.

Speaker 9 (21:18):
Yeah, how some because you had to psych yourself out,
damn like you know that man like you was covering
the with. You had to psych yourself out to play
against like Willie RoAF and take double teams from Flosi
Adams and Larry Allen every day in practice, and you
know Clint Porters and Washington running it sixty times and
Ron Dane hitting you in the face mask every time,

(21:40):
like it was you know.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Look green Bay.

Speaker 9 (21:42):
We here in Green Bay, asked BJ Roger, how it was, Yeah,
it was it was different.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
What was the game? What was the day after game day?

Speaker 9 (21:52):
Like lay in the bed, It was just a it
was a lay in the bed fast and like it
took me a couple of years for for me to
believe my strength and condition that coaches about you need
to move when you feel horrible. So it was very
difficult for me to like put my mind around go
and take like jogs and lift some weights the day

(22:13):
after the game.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
But as you get older, you realize it worked for you.
So were Jerry Jones. I guess he's all in now
with maybe what they're gonna do with the you know,
with trades here with the draft, we couldn't get five minutes,
six minutes, and but well you played, you played with
the Cowboys, and that's the That's the only reason why
I bring that up is trying to understand the inner
workings here of.

Speaker 9 (22:34):
But it's like it's like a it's like when you're
in a relationship and the man keep telling the woman
I'm gonna get better, right and she realized, like it's
we're fifteen years in now, you still trying to do
those things that you said you will go get better at.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
I'm just going to wait and see what Jerry man like.
But why even keys that you might do that? Why not?
Where's the element of surprise? Because Dad Patrick is going
to ask me about it, Like listen it is.

Speaker 9 (23:03):
I think the intentions are good, and I say that
all the time, right, their intentions are good, and then
Jerry gets off on another tangent and he forgets that
he has to runner football team.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
So yeah, it's unfortunate.

Speaker 9 (23:16):
There's something I grapple with most of the year since
I decided to do this job.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Okay, cam Ward goes number one. Yeah, Daniel Jeremiah said
that it's a certainty that Travis Hunter is going to
that leaves the Giants in kind of an interesting situation. Yeah,
because I like Abdul Carter, but I need to know
more about Abdul Carter with his foot. But I wonder
if they're open for business of maybe somebody going up

(23:45):
and getting ash and gently a little bit higher. And three,
why not just throwing it? This is the rebirth of
the running back.

Speaker 9 (23:54):
I know but they just you know, first, let me
miss I think they'll I think they'll take abdual Carter.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Okay, let me say that. Let me put that out there.

Speaker 9 (24:05):
Ashton Gent needs to reach out to Saquan and Christian
McCaffrey and Derreck Henry and be like, I show appreciate
y'all brothers, man like for bringing us back from the
dead man. Two years ago, we were having a conversation
about running backs not being needed in the NFL, like.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
It's a crazy world when they transitioned like that. But
I think you know what happened. You know, defense has
got smaller and faster, and everybody wanted to get physical.
And I said there would be a market correction because
all of a sudden, it's like, you can't stop our
running backs because on Wall Street will there be Yeah,
I need your help struggling right now.

Speaker 9 (24:45):
No, look, man, I think I think generational pass rushers
is what they've like attached to Abdul Carter, right, And
he doesn't like the comparisons of Michael Parsons, But unfortunately,
when you turn a film on you can tell him apart.
And Micah has given a really good sample size of
what that type of athleticism, what that type of burse

(25:07):
can do in the defense, and him being opposite of
Brian Burns and big Dexter Lawrence in the middle, he'll.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Get a lot of one on ones.

Speaker 9 (25:15):
And last time we saw the John I know, Eli
and a great play get a lot of credit, but
that d Lion won the Super Bowl for him. So
it's hard to pass that up, man, Like, it's hard
to pass that up, especially if you think you're gonna
get a guy that's gonna be a consistent ten ten
to twelve sacks a year. That's hard to pass up
and you not sure on because remember the Giants. Now

(25:40):
I made him know at all season long, but they
took Saquan second and that was an impactful individual position
while he was healthy. But that D line is hey, man,
I tell people all the time, if you don't start
up front, I don't care if you got I don't
care who it is.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Well, that's why I looked at the Eagles that you
put the combination of offensive defensive line. Yep, start there.
Everybody gets caught up in quarterback or wide receiver whatever.

Speaker 9 (26:07):
Because it's boring, Dan, I know it's boring. It's boring
to talk about the big uglies.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Okay, but how does that work on when you guys
do NFL Live. Yeah, and let's say you do want
to talk about defensive line, because this is a draft
that's full of defensive line. That's not sexy. No, it's
not sexy. But I don't care, like I mean, yeah,
but they have a rundown here.

Speaker 9 (26:28):
Yeah, I don't screw the rundown, right, I got, you know,
I got. But honestly, man, like the people that I
work with, especially on NFL Live, and not to cast
in this person or anybody else, because we get a
deeper dive of football, like that show is getting into
the weeds and the nuts and bolsa football, Like Mina
is a d line in that heart, the smallest person

(26:49):
on earth, but she loves talking about the line of scrimmers.
Dan only wants to talk about quarterbacks, so he keeps
us a happy medium. Man RC played defense, so he
gets it. He understands played on one of the best
defense is ever in the league. So I think a
lot of times and I'll produce. I gotta get Mark
Osman a lot of credit, like he understands where I
fall when it comes to making sure that we get

(27:10):
our good conversation about what's happening upfront. I will not
I will fight it to the death to talk about
D line and offensive line play more than more D
line play though.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
He's Marcus Spears. You were twentieth overall picks, so you
went before Aaron Rodgers. Yeah?

Speaker 9 (27:28):
Yeah, unfortunately, Yeah, Well why because, I mean, Dallas was
stupid not to take him.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Were they going to take No, No, there was no
There was no thought of taking you.

Speaker 9 (27:39):
No, they didn't need a they didn't. They didn't at
that time. They didn't feel like they needed a quarterback.
And Romo turned out to be pretty good for some years.
But you know, it's hindsight twenty twenty, right, Like, if
I was drafting again, I would take Aaron Rodgers before me.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Okay, right, basically, what would you do with Romo? He
probably would never see the field, go somewhere else to play.
You know, I thought Romo was a very underrated quarterback.
He was like, if he doesn't get hurt, yeah.

Speaker 9 (28:07):
He'll play five seven more years and have a chance
at the Hall.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
He might be a borderline yeah, borderline yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately
got hurt. Fortunately he got signed by CBS cool, But.

Speaker 9 (28:24):
You know what the law. The law works, buddy. Let
me tell you something. If I had hurt my back
to get that, I would have did it. I would
have done it too, straight up, you'd take an injury. Yeah, absolutely,
But do you believe anything.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
You hear this week the draft in the next.

Speaker 9 (28:42):
Twenty four outside of the first guy, No, Like we
kind of pretty much. That assimilates a couple of weeks
leading into it, and you start to realize, like, Okay,
this is for sure. So I think the only shock
would be if Cam Woard didn't go first.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah. I think the Giants wanted to go up and
get him. Yeah, yeah, which leads me to believe they're
not gonna I think they'll sit at three and wait
for the best player. If Shodoor Sanders was Shadoor.

Speaker 9 (29:10):
Thomas, uh, maybe it'll be different. Listen, here's here's my
take on Shador Right. It's it falls in a little
bit of line with C. J.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Stroud.

Speaker 9 (29:25):
Right, we're talking about athleticism and he doesn't have that
eyepop and stuff that you see now in the league
where players are the.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Josh Allens of the world.

Speaker 9 (29:33):
George Love here, lamar guys that can get out, create
and do phenomenal things.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
He plays the position at a high level.

Speaker 9 (29:40):
Though, Like and I get it that it is Colorado
and he went to Jackson State. You gotta figure out
what the competition was like. But watching him play the position,
you see a lot of traits that translate. Now, is
it third overall translation, I don't think so. Like I didn't.
I didn't. I didn't think that that was that high.
I didn't think Daniel Jones should have went six. But people,

(30:02):
you know, you either fall in love with these guys
or you don't. But I think Chador could be one
of those guys that ends up going late, goes to
a really good situation where he can develop and become
a really good starter in the league. Now, Dan, ninety
eight percent of them fail. Like this is my thing

(30:22):
about the draft. We all get here, like all these
dudes gonna turn into Hall of Famous, like four of
them do every year, no matter what position, Like four
of them really turn out to be franchised changers. Right,
Most of these guys in the first round they end
up being really good starters, or they start and they
play well and they are important pieces to these organizations.

(30:46):
But the conversation around the draft is if he gonna
is he gonna be the face of the franchise, Is he.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Gonna change the team trajectory? The answer most of the
time is hell no.

Speaker 9 (30:55):
Right, But when you're drafting a quarterback, you're putting a
lot of stock into this guy becoming what you hopefully
think he can become based on your projections. I don't
think Shador lacks any of those things that you think
you can turn him into a really good starter. Now,
it matters with coaching, It matters with situation. It matters

(31:15):
like even here right Green Bay. I remember how y'all
were acting when George Love got drafted. I'm not gonna
look I see the crowd over there. I'm not gonna
look at the US, right. But I was one of
the ones that said, like, at what point do you
start the contingency plan? Like do we wait till these
guys literally die to get a new quarterback? No, you

(31:37):
get a guy, you bring him in the system, you
let him sit, you let him groom. He was behind
a guy that won two MVPs while he was here
and air, so it was perfect. Now you walk into
the Green Bay Stadium, it's number ten jerseys everywhere, right,
so I think there you should have a plan. Pittsburgh
is still waffling because they didn't have a plan.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Right.

Speaker 9 (31:58):
So if you gonna take these guys as late in
the draft, or even if you're New York and you
just signed Russ and James, right and you decide at
some eleventh hour that Shador is gonna be the guy,
well he still can sit and learn.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Like, we're not.

Speaker 9 (32:13):
Paying these guys fifty million dollars before they show up
to the facility anymore. You could, you could handle the
financial part of it.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
So I don't, I don't.

Speaker 9 (32:21):
I don't see anything about Chador's game that tells me
he can't turn into a really good start in the league.
I mean, think about it. Darreon Olowski played thirteen years.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
No, he was on a team for thirteen years. He
was on a team for thirteen years. What is that?
I mean? So so a lot of teams thought he
was serviceable as a backup I don't care, or a
backup to the backup. That was just a shot that day. Yeah,
he takes enough shots he do. It doesn't stop. It's

(32:54):
gonna be fair. But you know the only reason why
bring up. You know when you talk about Shudor is
in today's NFL. As Steve Young says every time he's
on the show, there is so much real estate out
there for you to go get. The defenses are giving
this to you. And if you don't have somebody who
can go get that, you got to find somebody who
can go He can go get five to seven though,

(33:14):
like bro think about it, so he's where do the
athleticism got all of it? I know, you know, the
Lord was like I gave you all of them, your
kids to hand.

Speaker 9 (33:25):
But but you generations like my dad is only five
to ten.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
You know what I'm saying, suns for him.

Speaker 9 (33:35):
But again, man, like you look at you, look at you,
look at these we always have to be care first
of all, Steve Young is Steve Young. So Steve was
and people forget like Steve Young was the first like
dual threat killer right in Randall Conaham.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
These guys have been around for a long time.

Speaker 9 (33:56):
Like we we we it's so public now because we
got meet everywhere that we think that Lamar and Josh
and all of these guys are first. Dude, the amount
of athletes that play quarterback were and you gotta think
in the generation of most of those quarterbacks that before
this group of guys, now they were all two three
sport athletes.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
That was the thing to do when we were growing up.

Speaker 9 (34:19):
You played basketball, you played, you ran track, you played,
so they weren't just quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
But I look at it. Can you go get me.

Speaker 9 (34:27):
Five yards on the third and four and we dropped back,
can you get me eight to ten? I think chaduer
can do that. He's not gonna break a home run.
But how many of them really can? I mean, there's
a few of us, but man, we talking about like
six plays.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
It's thirty two teams. Okay, but those are the elite quarterbacks.
Those are the teams in the playoffs. Those are the
teams winning super.

Speaker 9 (34:49):
I mean we would, we would all get them if
they were all out there. It's supplied to man, like
I just I don't.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I don't. I can't subscribe. That's I only hold up
with Yeah.

Speaker 9 (35:00):
But we But but how then, literally what you just said, right,
thirty two of them, it's like seven of those guys
you're not gonna find.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
I don't think cam Ward is a standout athlete. He's
pretty good, he is, He's always pretty good. But if
you're gonna compare me yelling at each other, I don't
know you. You just made me mad. But if you
if you gonna.

Speaker 9 (35:22):
Compare him to Josh, you gonna compare him to.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
I'm just saying, getting five yards is Steve mean? I
saw Jared Golf get eighteen yards? I saw I saw
who else? I'm thinking about old old man in La
right now.

Speaker 9 (35:41):
That's Matt took off a couple of times, like we
don't have to we don't have to like think that
these guys gotta be four four us and and you
know we've been for years trying to get Josh Allen
not to run through people face mad so we could
watch him play for the next fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Right, So yeah, Dan stop? Okay, all right, all right?
Was this It's just not enough of them? Why don't
you take this enthusiasm too?

Speaker 10 (36:07):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (36:07):
NFL Live today, I will all right, that's a tease. Yeah,
he's a Marcus Spears and uh he'll be with Dan
Orlovsky's good buddy Mina Chimes, Ryan Clark, Laura Rutledge today
at for Eastern and extended editions Thursday and Friday, beginning
at three Eastern. Love you man, always great to see you.
I love you brother, Thank you. We'll take a break.
Play of the day's up next.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
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Patrick Show weekdays at nine a m. Eastern six am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
WAP Oh my God.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
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Speaker 10 (36:59):
That was in the Edwards says well, good espicipation there by.

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Kevin in Austin joins us. Good morning, Kevin, What's on
your mind today. Peep love having big swag ulaw man.

(37:50):
What a treat he is hilarious.

Speaker 7 (37:52):
I've got two.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Things for you.

Speaker 7 (37:55):
One, I want to weighut on the poll question, and
then two I have an item investigation proposal. Okay, So
one on the pole question, you roughed out the one
seed being a Cowboys fan anywhere in the world. It
is horrible.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
We suck.

Speaker 7 (38:11):
I'm in Texas and it still sucks. But more importantly,
I was watching during the break of the pickleball match
and I'm no pickleball nerd. But Fritzi was dominating from
inside the kitchen, breaking the rules, which would lead to
having an asterisk next to that wind just like his astros.

(38:32):
I'd like to see if we could get the item
on that.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Okay, yeah, see.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
So far on social media there has been a massive
outcry about Todd cheating and playing from inside the kitchen
when he's not supposed to. Almost immediately people were like,
the reason you guys are getting smoked like that is
because Todd's cheating.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Well, you guys did counteract Todd getting in the kitchen
a little too much, but they aren't prepared for that.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
You were clearly with the athleticism that Todd displayed.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
We were not prepared. Weren't prepared for somebody cheating in pickleball. Correct.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
No, we thought we were going to come in and uh, well, one,
get a fair game, but two.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yes, there was a guy there kind of oversaw facility.
He was. That guy was a buzz killed. He was nice.
He was he was a nice buzzy. He was trying
to explain.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
He was like the facto official in the match. And
he kept saying that's that's illegal, that's illegal, and there
that's illegal, with his arms folded. And then I said,
are we doing stuff illegal? He goes, there's a lot
wrong here. He was very personally upset.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
On both sides. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
Well, that guy came over to me and said, just
just let you know there are a lot of the
points on the other end were questions.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
I didn't see that.

Speaker 5 (39:47):
I saw the guy go up to Todd after the
match and said and said, hey.

Speaker 8 (39:51):
If you want to cheat, this is the best way
to do it.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
And then Todd reported to me what he said in
the kitchen. Let's see Zach and Knoxville. Hi, Zach, what's
on your mind today?

Speaker 10 (40:01):
Hey DP, thanks for taking my call. I've also got
another I team investigation that I've been kind of piecing together.

Speaker 8 (40:09):
I've been connecting the dots.

Speaker 10 (40:11):
You're cleaning out your inventory. You're in Wisconsin now, you're
going to Iowa later in the year.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Stephen A.

Speaker 10 (40:18):
Smith, a couple sundays ago, did not roll out that
he might run for president. Can you sit here today
and say that you are not going to run for
president in three years?

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yes? I can. I can say that confidently. I don't
think steven A. Somebody needs to tell steven A you
have to give up one hundred million dollars that ESPN
is paying you. Now. You tell me if you want
to run for the president. Yeah you do. Yeah, You're
gonna have to give up that salary. And but yeah,
I can. I can say that. No now vice president.

(40:52):
You know, maybe that would be something that seems like
a pretty cushy job. Man. What's up with Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan
don't need him, can't use them? Those press conference would
be pretty interesting with steven A. Just just say, can
I God let.

Speaker 5 (41:09):
Me Barbatos don't need Barbados?

Speaker 2 (41:12):
What uh Suez canal Suez? I want to go get it?
Greenland my Land. Oh, dear Matt Lafleur, the Packers head coach,
will join us, coming up in about ten minutes from now.
Glad you have you with us? Where at the bar

(41:33):
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