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April 4, 2025 35 mins

Hour 2 of A&G features...

  • News coverage around tariffs
  • The torpedo bat
  • Stretching benefits & the most annoying thing
  • Joe still uses AOL & San Quentin Prison

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Getty and he Armstrong and Ghetty, and finally
I heard that due to current prices, some Americans are
dying potatoes for Easter, dying potatoes for Eastern even Russia

(00:31):
is like it sounds bleak.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Wow. So we're not a moment by moment stock market show.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
We never have been. And I've always thought that kind
of analysis is just dumb. The only reason I bring
this up is just to show you that, like the
news coverage reaction around the whole tariff thing. So you
got NBC News bunch of places today, Dow plummets twelve
hundred points minutes into Friday trading. That's after yesterday, which
was the biggest drops. And we found out about the

(01:01):
pandemic back in twenty twenty. And then you got like
this report from ABC last night on how expensive things
are going to be.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Even if Apple made just ten percent of its phones
back here in the US, analysts estimate the cost of
an iPhone would surge from one thousand dollars to three thousand,
five hundred dollars because of the cost of labor here, so.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
An iPhone would more than triple if they just made
ten percent of the iPhones in the I say, no,
I don't know if their math is accurate. They're just
trying to scare people into being against the tariffs.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
I don't know that.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
Tell you what, my iPhone's thirty five hundred dollars. I'm
getting that big bulky otter box case, you know, the
one that makes your pockets bulge and is stupid. But
you're going to have to.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
I think I'm going flip phone, which would probably be
the best thing that ever happened.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
I mean, yeah, that's true. Yeah, right. Anybody who tries
to predict exactly how this is going to shake out
is being silly. But the shake up is every bit
as big as anybody thought it might be if this happened.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
And I'm not just going to lean on the stock market.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
I mean, I've got a really interesting piece from the
Wall Street Journal editorial board, and of course they cite
the plunging in the markets, which could bounce back next week.
Sure it won't necessarily, but it could. So you know,
I'm gonna skip that sort of thing. Well, well, it's
kind we're silly, but tariff. Trump goes out on the lawn.
When was that Tuesday? Wednesday?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
What day was Liberation Day?

Speaker 3 (02:31):
I had my flag of tay and he went out
on the White House lawn there with his big charts about, hey,
look they're they're hitting us with ninety percent terrace fifty
going country by country. So the only fair thing to
do is for us to hit them back. And we're
not hitting the back as hard as they hit us.
We're going like half as much they started the trade war.
We're just you know, now, fighting back, was his argument.

(02:54):
So we were asking yesterday what's what's wrong with that?
If Europe hits us with whatever it was, forty percent tariffs,
why is it a horror for us to hit them
with twenty percent tariffs?

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Right?

Speaker 1 (03:05):
And and some of.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
You all came through with explanations, and Wall Street Journal
had a piece later in the day explaining it.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
Yeah, yeah, about midway through the show, they figured out
how the numbers came to be. And there are two
complaints about the charts. Number one, the tariffs charge to
the USA. The way those were formulated are really mysterious
to a lot of people because they include tariffs and
other non trade barriers. And now I understand why people

(03:37):
said it was kind of arbitrary and confusing how they
arrived at the total number. Then, for instance South Korea,
it says tariff's charge to the US, and there's fine
print I can't including currency manipulation and trade barriers. Okay,
I had to get really close to the screen. Is
fifty percent. But we've got free trade with South Korea,

(03:57):
and the gripe that I've heard explained and this is
a little oversimplified, but that's because you have to oversimplify
everything that's so damn complicated is that we actually do
have very very free trade with South Korea. They have
a few aspects of their economy that they protect for
political reasons, as do we.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
We subsidize the.

Speaker 5 (04:17):
Crap out of our farmers, probably for decent reasons because
we got to have our own food supply in case
of war, but also because farms, farmers, agriculture are incredibly
important politically in America. You cannot be seen as anti
farmer and get elected.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
But the whole, and I've always hated that, but the whole.
We can't have that industry go away if it turns
out it's just cheaper to buy our wheat from somewhere
else all the time. Imagine if we all found out
when the pandemic started, Well, every single thing I want
to buy for medical reasons comes from China. That is horrible. Yeah,

(04:57):
and ninety percent of all the chips in the world
come from Taiwan. How about a potato but compute, how
about if a war starts in all the wheak comes
from some country. Right, Oh my god, that'd be horrible.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, there's a.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
Certain amount of protectionism I think patriots are in favor of.
It's just a question of how much and how many
different industries and whether it works or not. Like we
put the big import duties tariffs on China, they move
their plants to Mexico, with whom we have free trades.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
So it's very whack a mole, or it can be.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
But anyway back to South Korea, so we both protect
various industries and sectors to each other, even though South
Threa is a huge and important trading partner with the
United States and we have a great free trade agreement,
so that fifty percent tariff number is really in dispute.
And then the USA discounted reciprocal tariffs. How they came

(05:49):
up with that, This is from the White House. Reciprocal
tariffs are calculated as the tariff rate necessary to balance
bilateral trade deficits between the US and each of our
trading partners. This calculation assumes that persistent trade deficits are
due to a combination of tariff and non terror factors
that prevent trade from balancing. Tariffs work through direct reductions

(06:12):
of imports. Reciprocal terror frates range from zero percent to
ninety nine percent, but everybody gets ten percent ten percent
on all imports, they said. And there are a number
of problems with this, first of all, and I've been
saying this for a very long time, and y'all know me.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
You've been listening to this show a long time.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
I'm I think Trump is one hundred percent right significant
amount of the time, and I think he's wrong sometimes too.
So it's not I'm not neither in the bag or
never Trumper. The problem is a country like Columbia. One
of their major exports to US is coffee, because we
consume astounding amounts of coffee. And I'm just talking about

(06:52):
me and you never mind the rest of the country We,
except for a very small amount in Hawaii, don't make
any coffee, and Colombia buys a fair number of American goods.
But we're always going to have a trade deficit with Colombia,
partly because of coffee. And that's not because they're being
unfair horrible to us. It's just we're a big, rich
country and they have a commodity that we really really like.

(07:16):
And so I think the fixation with trade deficits is
just it's misplaced. And one of the other complaints that
I'm hearing a lot is that where is it.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
So you have like Iran.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
Is getting a ten percent tariff in Venezuela right before.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
We bomb the regime out of office.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
And Venezuela fifteen percent, but friends like Europe are paying
twenty percent, Japan twenty four, in Taiwan thirty two percent.
The trade deficit is a long time Trump fixation that
he sees as a zero sum game. Trade deficit countries
must be cheating somehow, the Wall Street Journal is talking.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
About and I just don't agree with that.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
And it all again, there is some protectionism I'm fine
with for national security reasons, but the problem with markets
is if you mess with them over here, it causes
eleven different reactions over there, there, and there, and often
those reactions are are unanticipated, and you would have to

(08:21):
seize hold of like the entire economy, like the progressives
always want to do, to control all of those reactions
it and it cascades and gets really really bad for
growth and investment and everybody's pocketbooks. So I'm concerned that
this is not going to work the way Trump thinks
it's going to. Well because I hate Trump or I

(08:43):
wanted Kamala Harris elected, I'm just I'm not seeing how
this works, and I'm being honest.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
So we don't kill you with this. Maybe later this
hour will do this. But we've got Nancy Pelosi on
the House floor from nineteen ninety six, long speech about
tariffs and their importance in a way to balance the
trade and all that sort of stuff that sounds a
lot like what Trump was doing. He would love to
have that Nancy Pelosi out there making that argument right now.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Good looking woman back before electricity, by the way, Nancy.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Hands her before color television.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
Yeah, well she's what eighty Well, of course, she's well
into her eighties.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
All of our leadership needs to be old and just
ask my watch. My watch will tell me. Now I
think you're close.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Come on, Apple, Oh that sucks Apple. Don't give me
a Wikipedia link. How old is Nancy Pelosi?

Speaker 1 (09:41):
This is she just turned eighty five a couple of
days ago.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
As hell as how old she is she uh, at
least she relinquished the reins of the party to Hakim Jeffries,
that genius of New York.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
I had something else about the tariffs, and then this
and then that and Nancy Pelosi and high heels. What
I just trying to help.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
So I took in a podcast with some smart people
yesterday and they were going with on a what's likely
to happen? And they seem to settle on Trump is
going to decide fairly quickly that this is doing too
much political damage. Back off the tariffs, and you know,

(10:25):
point to some things to claim a win, say see
it worked, and then this will be over like in
the next week or two.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, just too quick point, which if happened, then we
would all move on with our lives and things. That
was weird.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
I really care about this stuff because I want the
good stuff he's doing to continue, like cleaning out the
infection that is the American universities, which they're making great
progress on the doge stuff. I really want the dog
stuff to be successful. And the second thing is there
are predatory trade practices that like China does in other
countries that are just utterly unfair that we put up

(11:01):
with because you know, we're getting rich anyway, it's a
huge market.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Let's just not mess with it.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
We'll go ahead and take the unfairness because we're still
making profits that that crap ought to end. And if
he ends the truly you know, dumping of products, you
subsidize your steel industry, you're selling it at a loss
intentionally to put American steel out of business, for instance,
So then you can corner the market that crap we

(11:27):
got to clamp down on.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Maybe he'll just have that result.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
We'll I'll move on with our lives in the market
will surge back near four to zho one k, it'll
be the fat is a slaughtered hog er like a
state fair hog.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
I was looking for a good hog metaphor anyway, and
that is a fat thing.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Or we could stick with this for a while, it
could go the direction then a lot of conservative economists
say and Trump could go down in history. His name
could become a verb for a bad idea.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
I hope not.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
I hope not either. I'm not rooting for that at all,
certainly not anyway. What are you gonna do? What are
you gonna do? You're gonna go to work.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
You're gonna go to work, go home.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
You're gonna love your kids. If you don't have kids,
love your dog, love your neighbor as you love yourself.
You don't have kids or dog, give us it's a
sad life. I guess maybe you got a cat, Maybe
you volunteer in your community.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
You maybe have a plant, Maybe you have a plant
to love. More on the way for about a center field.
Harris is back. Ladies and gentleman.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
Embrace this, Embrace this man, Embrace this team. This season
and they all start for the defending champs.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
President it.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
Every single night they do something that makes us say, Wow,
how much fun is this? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
How much fun is it having all the best players?
I'm sorry, I can't wait to not think that when
I hear those clips and they won again last night.
That's from two nights ago. Uh shoho tani walk off
home run? And then when last night they're nine and zero,
but they had the most expensive best team, won the
World Series last year, added some of the best players
in Major League Baseball in the off season.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
So explain to me why the play by play guy
has to say, embrace this team.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Right this season?

Speaker 5 (13:23):
Because I wasn't sure. As a Dodgers fan, I was
pretty pissed off. What are you talking about. I've rooted
for teams, sorry Dodgers.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
We've all if you're a sports fan, rooted for teams
that you know you were hoping would be good. You
didn't have any idea, lots of people nobody's ever heard of,
and then all of a sudden you catch far and
it's just so amazing. That is not what the Dodgers
are embrace this year. All the biggest name in baseball
on one team doing exactly what you thought they would
do one hundred games. There's gonna be a riot and

(13:51):
they'll burn down the stadium, right, But that's not what
I was going to bring up. It's just this whole
new so I wish I how to google. This is
sho Hao Tani using that new bat. Do we know
that on a torpedo bat? This torpedo bat, do not
know that it's gotten so much attention after the Yankees
had what they're calling the most remarkable five day period

(14:11):
in the bat manufacturing industry and history, wow, because it
has just been a tsunami of craziness for people who
make bats. There are a handful of companies that make
all the bats, but they're all scrambling because that's what
everybody wants now at every level of baseball. Everybody wants
a torpedo bat now. But if you don't make one,
you can't sell a bat because nobody wants the old

(14:32):
fashioned bat. And so it's just that they've gone into
like extra hours, working all night long to try to
produce enough of these bats that everybody wants.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
You know what I'd like to do if I ever retire,
More likely the industry will retire us is that is
wont to do, which is.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
What happens with most people. Remember, we've built those statistics
for various financial places. Everybody thinks they're going to choose
when they're retire, and something like eighty five percent of
people don't.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
Either your industry or your job says yeah, you're retiring now,
or you have a medical thing, or somebody else in
your family has a medical thing or whatever you have.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Very few people choose it. Well, this is what I
know with several people.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
The industry changes in such a way, your job changes
such a way you don't want to do it anymore,
and you quit, Yeah, several years earlier than you were planning, because.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
You're like, people change that much.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
I'm not learning a new computer system, just not so
I guess I'm done. Don't have it in me.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
Anyway, what we're saying, Oh, what I would like to
do is just and I've always been so terrible at
this is just look at the headlines. I see this
bad is taking major League Baseball by storm. I figure
out who makes it and invest in them right now,
right now, right. And it might be automotive, it might
be sociological, you know, trends, media, the clothing, but they're.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Just that's what I do. I throw a few grand
at that. I throw a few grand at that be fun,
It would be fun. The what what do they call that?
Day trading?

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Right or you know it's day trading, but it's not
emotional investing. There's a name for the but but the yeah,
stocks that catch fire that way, yeah, just right if
you're a thinker at all. That weekend that the Yankees
exploded with home runs and you heard about the bat,
you think, who the hell makes that bat?

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah? What company makes that bat?

Speaker 5 (16:13):
I'm just I'm just spend so much time thinking about
this dead end gig.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Hanson don't have I don't have my bandwidth for it. Hanson,
do you have a Little league perspective? As your son
aware of this bat? Can the kids get it? Like,
if you're a thirteen year old, can you get the
torpedo bat?

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Now?

Speaker 3 (16:27):
They use aluminum bats? Right, well they did. Can they
make a torpedo aluminum bat model? It's the shape right
and where you put the weight? So yeah, exactly, it's
where the masses. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Howbout they could do with illumin I don't know anyway.
Uh yes, Katie, Uh, show Hao Tani does not.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Use a torpedo Show Hao Tani, nice job. Screw the
torpedo bat. Imagine if he did? Oh jeez, nine hundred homes?
Uh so?

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Uh coming up?

Speaker 5 (16:57):
One of the most infamous prisons in the world World
Send Quentin is going to become a restorative justice facility.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
What does that mean? Is this a good idea or not?
A kind or gentle or is that just a different
name for a prison.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
Oh oh no, no, restorative justice like from the schools.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
All right, that's worked, so fantastic, Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 6 (17:18):
Every country's called us. That's the beauty of what we do.
We put ourselves in the driver's seat. If we would
have asked some of these country, almost most of these
countries to do us, if ever, they would have said no.
Now they'll do anything for us, But we have tariffs
if it's said, and it's going to make our country.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Very rat jump on the plane yesterday claiming every country
has called him wanting to make a deal, and now
I got them over a barrel.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
They'll do anything we want.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
So let's hope that's true. I wasn't going to talk
about tariffs. I just saw an ad I forgot. I
saw this the other day. So the sketchers slip on
slip in shoes that they advertise, Yeah, the idea of
you don't have to bend over anymore. And then I
saw an ad the other day for slipping pants. Sorry,
you'd have to bend over as much as how drop
you in like Wallace and Corummet, How how.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Lazy slash inactive. Are we gonna get slipping pants, slipping shoes?

Speaker 5 (18:18):
Yeah, I've got to admit there's slipping shoes are kind
of appealing for obvious reasons. But then I think, especially
with my circumstance, I can't stretch enough. I can't like
bend over and cross my legs and touch my toes enough.
I ought to be doing it all day long. So
the idea of, you know, just no effort ever is
not a good idea.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, that's stretching. I started at what nine months ago?
It's changed my life, really has. It's amazing. Wow, I
feel so different. Wow. Yeah, you can just hop around
and bend over and pick things up hopping around a
fair amount. Yeah that's great.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
But oh, here's the most annoying thing out there. I
have a well tuned, for some reason, annoyance meter. Why
do I seek out that are going to annoy me?
But I like to know what, like the upper crust
progressive is into that I'm gonna find so annoying.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
And I've got the latest one for you. Oh you
love to hate it? I love to hate it. Yeah.
The new play George.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Clooney is in on Walsh on Broadway Oh boy, George
Coloney delivers a liberal rallying cry and good.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Night and good luck. Oh I already hate it.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
So it's a it's a Broadway play about Edward R. Murrow,
whose famous sign off was good night and good luck.
But the great legendary radio newsman rights Yeah, journalist, so
legendary journalists, very very famous journalist and known as a
straight shirt shooter, you know, told the truth, that sort
of stuff. And I haven't seen the play, but at

(19:49):
least they're trying to pretend it's like a pushback against
you know, the Facebook won't fact check anymore, and just
all this sort of stuff. The media is not doing
it job anyway. And I've seen George Clooney doing interviews
in the last couple of days, so prepared to be
annoyed by how much you hear about George Clooney's new

(20:10):
play and the liberal rallying cry and all that.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Just take my finger down my throat. Ah my milkshake
for Monday.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
Oh, he's so sick, he's thrown up stuff he eight
in seventh grade.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Ah yeah, yeah, that is incredibly annoying. I'm a man.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
Sorry to bring up a tariffs again, but if Trump
can avoid doing things that you don't mess up. Conservative
America's natural advantage. Right now, we're going to have a long, long,
winning streak, which is why I'm worried about the tariff thing.
Let me see how it plays out. But I mean,
I see the good stuff, the doge stuff, the university stuff.

(20:50):
They're oh stringing out the Smithsonian Institution, right woe, which
is so woke.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
It's sickening, all that good stuff. Just don't mess it up. Woke.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Being on the run for the first time in you know,
a half dozen years is so good. But yeah, no,
nobody will remember any of that sort of stuff if
this tariff thing goes wrong.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
Right exactly, So George Clooney can hold all the self
gratifying Broadway war cries of the lefty wants and nobody
gives a crap, and they've lost the ground and they'll
never win another election if we can just not screw
it all. Speaking of progressivism, are you familiar with the
concept of restorative justice.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
It's big in schools.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
The Obama administration use the funding hammer of the federal
government to force schools into this.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
I have seen it in action. It is ridiculous. Do
you want to give us a quick rundown of what
you've seen. Have you got your classic schoolyard bully in school?
And they, you know, like they walk.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
They like to walk around and hit kids in the
head because they can and they're bigger. And what are
you going to do if you complain about that? What
they do is they bring in the puncher and the
punchy and treat them equally, yes, and have them apologize
to each other and explain their feelings and explain their feelings,
and then they both go out in the playground and
the puncher goes around continuing to punch people in the head, right,

(22:16):
and nothing changes.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
And I've seen this over and over again.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
It is the greatest day for bullies in American history.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
That absolutely is to the left.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Despite all the PSAs you hear and everything else, they
have done away with trying to rain in bullies at all,
and the other aspect of it that's so insidious, is
it is.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
So kids that act up in class are all kinds
of other things.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
All right, Yeah, you can't kick a kid out of
class for being disruptive.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
How about their education? Huh? You need to have restorative justice.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
You need to explain to them how you feel when
they make it impossible for everyone to learn. Then they
explain how they feel, and then they go back to
disrupting the class and the other insidious aspect of this.
This is absolutely soaked in woke and equity in that
you are told by the CRA Department of Education, if
you suspend or sanctioned in any way a disproportionate number

(23:08):
of black kids, Hispanic kids, gay kids, whatever, who knows
how thin they slice the pie, we will take away
your funding.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
So you think, all right, I.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
Got fourteen percent kid of ethnicity X and for whatever reason,
maybe they're from a tough side of town, maybe parental problems, whatever,
they're fourteen percent of the population, they're twenty percent of
the suspensions.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Can't suspend them.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
We got to get those numbers in line, which is
how the Parkland school shooter escaped justice because he was Hispanic.
The school was terrified to alert law enforcement. Oh that's
the other thing. You're not supposed to call law enforcement,
especially against a kid of color.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Well, so like the restorative justice thing, thank god. You know,
if you're in this situation is like a you know,
you're an eight year old and you're getting tormented on
the playground and you say something with a teacher, because
they're all about don't fight back, don't stand up for yourself,
go to an authority, right. The one thing you learn
is the authorities don't do anything. So it's interesting that

(24:15):
the authorities are teaching kids that don't go to authorities
because it accomplishes nothing.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
It's worse than nothing. They all empower the abuser, right.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
But anyway, so you go into the office and you've
got to sit there with the bully who's snickering over
the fact that he gets to punch you in the
head and explain your fear. So, how does it make
you feel, Jimmy, when Johnny punches you in the head,
How miserable of an experience would it be to sit
there with the bully and say, well, it makes me

(24:42):
feel weak and makes me feel like, I mean, that's.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Just so freaking awful.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
It is. It is horrible, and that sort of anger
builds and builds and kids until.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
They act out in a terrible way.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
Oh so, anyway, that is a long preamble to the
fact that the legendary prison send quent, which is kind
of an old dilapidated prison that holds I can't remember
how many guys.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
It's probably in here somewhere, but and.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Merle Haggard did a fantastic live concert there, and so
did Johnny Cash. Absolutely also sits on real estate worth
roughly three zillion dollars. Yeah, if I ever take that
route home from San Francisco and drive by it, I think, God,
if that were a hotel.

Speaker 5 (25:21):
Yeah, between the slums and government project housing and prisons,
that set on incredibly valuable real estate. State of Califlifornia
could pay off its ginormous debts. Anyway, that's an aside.
San Quentin is being redesigned getting a two hundred and
thirty nine million dollar makeover courtesy of California taxpayers. As

(25:44):
Governor Gavey, I'm so lustful for the president, the presidency.
I have to hide behind the desk so you don't
see my arousal newsom you. It's a long name. Yes,
this is a cumbersome nickname, but a good one. He's
attempting to turn the maximum security prison into a restorative
justice facility. Now we should take a break. I will explain.

(26:07):
I will not reject this in a knee jerk fashion.
My opinion on this topic is nuanced.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Maybe he can wear a restraining garment of some sort
keep that to himself.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
Although I tell you what, if Gavy's in favor of it,
I think the presumption that it's stupid is or a
betrayal of taxpayers is a fairly safe assumption.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
But there's more to it than that. I think you'll
find it interest.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
We also got some more information about sleep and battling sleep.
For a couple of weeks, I've done an experiment with
melatonin thanks to one of you Texters that has worked
out great, So I want to talk about that at
some point ifew or your kids struggle with sleep. All
on the way, waffle House announced yes today that for
the first time in the chain's history, will offer delivery.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Oh wow, that's amazing. So now they'll just come to
your house and fight you.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
Wow House taking another shot unfortunate. If you've been following
news from cal Unicorny at all, you know that California
legalized crime and there was an explosion in crime and
drug abuse and homelessness and more crime and misery and horror.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
And Gavin newsm wants to bring that to the entire country.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
The U two can vote for that across the country
in twenty twenty eight. Anyway, So the people California passed
a brand new proposition to correct the old stupid soft
on crime propositions. And the word now from the Capitol
is that the Democrats in Sacramento are going to starve
Prop thirty six to death. They're not going to fund

(27:41):
any of the provisions that the people California voted for.
Oh my god, chicanery in the Capitol where you say,
oh yeah, yeah, we'll have the crackdown on this, that
and the other. Then yeah, we'll fund it to twenty
bucks a week. Yeah, yeah, that'll be fine. So I
don't want to get too into de t on that.
We'll post the information it's actually under I think yesterday's

(28:04):
hot links at Armstrong and getty dot com. California Democrats
plan to starve Prop thirty six to death.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Anyway, that was a bit of a preamble too. What
did I do with it?

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Did you read that on AOL? Hey, Michael Hanson, Katie
Joe was just during the commercials on AOL.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Wow, that's correct. He rode a horse to work and
now he's on AOL. You've got may. I didn't even
know you could still log onto AOL.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
I saw him rewrite the story on his typewriter. Tiity
tipity tap. Oh there it is, okay, Umm, oh, you
gotta facts come in. I believe I am being I
believe I am being mocked.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
AOL still exists.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
And they made me go through like an eleven step
process to sign on to get my stupid email from
some stupid company that I don't want to have any
of my real email addresses.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
And I'm like, here, AOL, what you are?

Speaker 5 (29:02):
I don't care if everybody hacks my accounts, it doesn't matter,
it will have no effect.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
When he gets Hommy's gonna watch his favorite show on
his TVO.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
I gotta prove I'm not a robot, all right, I'm
not a I gotta identify all the fire hydrants in
these eleven pictures, some of.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Which are so distant.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
There might be thirty fire hydrants. I don't know they're
Oh I missed one. Okay, let me do it again.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
I identified all the gd fire hydrants.

Speaker 5 (29:25):
Finally, Oh, I gotta have a six digit code sent
to my phone so nobody hacks in AOL, because if
they did then what.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
G money?

Speaker 5 (29:37):
Also, we can bring you a featurette on good Sleep
next hour, because if they.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Did, then what.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
Oh nough AOL's been compromised the nuclear launch codes anyway.
So San Quentin Prison in California, speaking of being pro crime,
as Gavin Newsom is, is going to get a two
hundred and thirty nine million dollar makeover as he attempts
to turn the maximum security prison into a restorative justice facility.

(30:07):
The prison that once housed Charles Manson will now be
a Nordic style rehabilitation center, complete with normalizing spaces in
quotes such as a farmer's market, podcast studios, food trucks,
and a self service grocery store. Construction on the project
is now underway, according to the San Francico Chronicle, and

(30:28):
likely will be complete in January of twenty six, which
means it'll be completed in January of twenty thirty six
for quintuple the quoted price.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Well, what's the goal here? What's the idea?

Speaker 5 (30:41):
They've employed Scandinavian architecture firm Schmidt Hammer Lassen to lead
the remodel. The firm has experienced crafting humane prisons.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
The idea is.

Speaker 5 (30:54):
The reforms will quote, reduce the harm to residents and
staff in our prison by improving dignity, optimizing humanity, providing
incarcerated people the tools they need to become the best
versions of themselves before returning home, and creating a work
environment that supports rehabilitation.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
I will tell you this, how much time do we have?
We have time?

Speaker 5 (31:13):
Good? I read part of a book back in the
day that one of our beloved listeners wrote and sent
it to us. He had been working in volunteering in
prisons for a very long time, and as I recall,
it was entitled how to Create a Monster, and it
was pointing out how often the prison experience makes you know,
like younger, mid level bad guys or whatever, into really
really bad guys, right, and how we want to avoid that.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
So I can understand that I also want to prison
that you would rather not go.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
To Bingo gringo. Two sides to the coiner two. There's
the input and the output question. I get how as
a realist, and again, if you're not a realist, you're
not a good conservative. As a realist, you've got to
be saying, how do we minimize crime, recidivism, violence, and

(32:04):
brutality from people or by people who are getting out
of prison.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
That is a good and noble goal.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
Not for the prisoners, although they end up benefiting a lot,
but for society, for humanity, the community.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
So that's a good goal.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
On the other hand, as you pointed out so wisely,
what about the whole intake question. If prison is so pleasant,
you're house prison, honey, Oh, you know the pressure of
doing my.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Podcast is starting to get to me.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
Well did you relax in the community garden and did you.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Live in a dormant college? Uh? Huh, Okay, it's pretty
much like that.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
Yeah, but we can't leave campus, but we don't want
to because it's really nice. Uh, prison authorities. I'm sorry,
I should finish my point. It's the intake part. If
it is so enlightened and pleasant and like going to
a community college, you've just removed any disincentive for being
convicted of a serious crime.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Obviously, I've thought this for a long time. For most
of us, the lack of freedom is quite a threat.
And then what it does to your reputation. I don't
want to be a guy who spent six weeks in
jail for something. I mean, that wouldn't be good for
my whole world. Look with everybody I've ever known, But
and I don't want to have my freedom taken away.

(33:26):
But I think for a lot of people who go
to prison, they don't have a social structure that cares
that they're going to jail, right, and they don't care
about their freedom that much.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
And their crime, the crime is their career anyway, so
it's not like their career gets derailed for very long.
In fact, they probably learned new techniques. So again, there
are two sides to this coin. But I love this.
Prison authorities will consult design experts for advice on quote,
how to minimize ambient sound and improve light throughout and
to ensure creation of an inclusive design that addresses the

(33:56):
needs of different populations, including older adults, the different abled,
and transgender populations to name a few. Good nutrition will
also be made foundational to the San Quentin experience. The
best way, by far to discredit progressive policies is to
enact them. Unfortunately, a lot of people get hurt while

(34:18):
everybody's waking up to how stupid they are.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
What if they hack into AOL and get my bank
information from six banks ago put.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Them in San Quentin to work on the community garden.
That's what I say. And find out that I'm a
thirty four year old who makes whatever I made back, then.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
We're gonna lock your differently abled ass up for six
solid weeks of doing podcasts and going to the self
service grocery store.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
That'll show you.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
So we ought to do a segment on sleeping because
we've got more information on that and it seems to
be a hot topic for a lotty all, either with
you or your kids. Trump has fired back at the Chinese,
who announced this morning our retaliatory percent tariff. China announced,
Trump said they have made a mistake and they will

(35:07):
regret this.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
So don't trust China, right, sir sous China. See how
that goes.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah, so we've got both big picture and a minute
by minute news for you.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
I guess, Dewey, that sounds like a lot of work.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Anyway, Thanks to one texture who had done a lot
of melatonin experiments, I'm doing something different.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
It works way better.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Talk about that in hour three, among other things, Armstrong
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