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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty and
no Hee Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I got a report from the USDR last night that
more than fifty countries have reached out to the President
to begin a negotiation. But they're doing that because they
understand that they bear a lot of the tariff. And
so I don't think that you're going to see a
big effect on the consumer in the US, because I
do think that the reason why we have a persistent
long run trade deficit is these people have very inelastic supply.
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They've been dumping goods into the country in order to
create job, say in China.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
One of the many Trump people that went on the
Sunday talk shows yesterday to it try to explain why
this isn't as bad as it might look, or the
long term plan, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I do know this.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
When we came on the air today, I took a
look at the old Dow just as the uh, you know,
kind of a national meter avowed the mood or whatever,
and it was down I think sixteen hundred. Now like
a minute ago it was down one hundred, so I
don't know, you know, what's going on there. I wonder
if did somebody make a phone call and say, hey, look,
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we're going to end this in like a week, so
don't freak out.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I don't know. I wonder if somebody whispered something.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Let's see what happened where it is at the end
of the day though, because it was a very rough
start very early on.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, the S and P.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
While the nastac's actually up a little bit. The S
and P is down about a quarter a point having
rebounded so well.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
But imagine if at the end of the day the
Dow ends up flatter up, what are the talking points
going to be from the tariff haters at that point.
One other thing, though, the Trump guy there saying people
in America haven't seen any of these prices yet. One
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of my favorite commentators, who's a straight shooter, over the
weekend said they he the way he does his Amazon
basket is he regularly put stuff in the basket and
like he'll get to buying it later. And he had
ten things in his basket from like a week or
so ago, and then over the weekend, all ten of
them had gone up various amounts in price. Wow, which
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was surprising to me. I haven't been keeping an eye
on it that closely. I don't know if you're feeling
any of this or not. Do you put stuff in
the basket then buy it all at once? I don't
either click any click when I need it, because otherwise
I'd forget, I would think. But that's not the operative
question here, Katie.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Oh, My save for a later list is embarrassingly long.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh really? Oh yeah, Because I'll see.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Something I'm like, oh, that's cool, and I'll put it
in there, and then I checked the other day.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
And I'm like, wow, I need to stop yesterday.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Do you ever look at it and think what was
I thinking when I put that in the basket?
Speaker 5 (02:54):
All the time. There's a couple of tequila ideas in there.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I'm like, oh, yeah, golf clubs. I'm not going to
play golf.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
What's a tequila idea? I'm going to drink some. That's
the only idea I've ever read.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Where I've had some tequila and I think things are
a good idea.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
And then later and I'm like, ah, drunk purchases.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Yeah, well, hey, at least I put them in the
basket and I.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Don't make them right yeah, man, if I if I
still all right?
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Yeah, my wife is texting me right now, don't bother, honey.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I know if I still drink, i'd want a breathalyzer
attached to my Amazon account. You got to blow into
it before I can put anything in the cart.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
That is such a good idea.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Well, that's been proposed for your phone too, so you
don't you know, booty call your ex and advisedly and
that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Drunk texting in general. Right, oh oh so uh.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Much more importantly, perhaps a couple of our favorite historians
and thinkers, Neil Ferguson it looks like Nile. It's Neil,
he's a skulk, and Victor Davis Hanson taking something like
opposite sides on whether this Trump tariff thing is a
good idea or not. Here's the difficulty for us and
everybody on this. Nobody's really quite sure if Trump is
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seriously going long term isolationist because he gives he certainly
says he is at times, or if that's just a posturing,
a posture, a bargaining position in order to truly get
more reciprocal lower tariffs in place to help US exports.
Now that's the goal. It's hard to argue against. Honestly,
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I mean and honestly, Neil Ferguson and VDH would probably
agree with each other. But I'll just give you a
little of their thinking. This is Neil Ferguson. Depending on
your worldview, you probably think Trump's tariff blitz is one
of two things. Either, a committed protectionist is trying to
make America great again by killing globalism, ending forever wars,
and bringing manufacturing jobs to the US. Alternatively, an unhinged
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demagogue is crashing both the world economy and the liberal
national order, mainly to the advantage of authoritarian regimes, mostly China.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Here's what is actually happening.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
The American Empire that came into existence after the chaos
of the thirties is being broken up after eighty years.
Despite Trump's imperial impulses Greenland to Canada, Panama. He's engaged
right now in a kind of wild decolonization project. Like
the post nineteen forty five British labor governments. He wants
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to shelter domestic manufacturing in the working class behind tariffs
while reducing overseas commitments, but the net result will be
both economically damaging and geopolitically weakening. Americans will come to
miss globalism and policing the world. They will belatedly realize
that there is no portal through which the US can
return to the nineteen fifties, much less than nineteen hundreds.
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And the principal beneficiary of this project will not be
Russia but China.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I don't know about the globalism part.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I do think will come to miss policing the world,
which I didn't believe your.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Go why briefly if you'd like. I think we just.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Benefited so much from being the one that calls the shots,
way more than we realize. And when we think, when
we think, oh, we need to stop you know this,
who's with me? And they all say, we're not really
with you.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Anybody who's ever gone from CEO to vice president of
something or other and exactly actually like fifth on the
flow chart will tell you that it's a hell of
a lot better to be the CEO in a lot
of ways.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
And we're the CEO of the world for a long time.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Anyway, that says cool, You might be right, but we
just can't afford to do it anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
You might be right.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
It's certainly an argument worth discussing. Yeah, we can't, you know,
run the treasury dry, although the way we slather money
around on domestic stuff, that's what's killing the treasury anyway.
It's a very very long piece, Neil Ferguson wrote, it's
just the very like introduction touch on it. Victor Davis Hanson,
on the other hand, who has in recent days been
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fairly critical of Trump at times when he thinks it's appropriate.
VDH is very much an independent thinker. He frequently agrees
with Trump. He says, what is the logic behind the
Trump tariffs? Why are they incurring such infactive Why is
he willing to take such political risks in a fashion
that no prior Republican administration had dared?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Let me explain, He.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Says, the US has not run a trade surplus since
nineteen seventy five, which is, to my horror, half a
century ago. America is now nearing a one trillion dollar
annual trade deficit with an ossified trade policy unchanged from
a bygone era. This is something I brought up many times.
But after World War Two, the US was the only
major industrial power that emerged from the war not just
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intact and capable of settling its wartime deficits and debts,
but also far stronger, both relatively and absolutely than when
it had entered the war. In December nineteen forty one,
recovering Europe and Asian needed massive inputs of goods and services.
They were on their knees, right, yeah, I did, and
so we went there. We let them go ahead and
erect some tariffs so they could raise some money and
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also so they could get their industries up and running,
because we would have just crushed them competitively for a
long time.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Pointing to various statistics from the early fifties right after
World War Two and using those as the standard we
need to get back to is just not helpful. It's
it's using your honeymoon as the standard for the happiness
of your relationship.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Right thirty years into your marriage. Yeah, it's just wildly unrealistic.
The world was decimated except for US, so, yeah, the
numbers were crazy, and then quite intelligently the US. And
I'm really summering summarizing once again vdh's point of view.
You know, we can post the link to these you
may get paywalled I love the free press. They put
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out a lot of great stuff. Maybe you want to subscribe.
But he points out that the idea ida of helping
all of these countries back on their feet so they
would become thriving economies on their own and then become
our customers was a very good idea, and it was
very very successful, witness the rise in the standard of
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living of Americans over the last seventy five eighty years.
But that it's, as he said, earlier policies of a
bygone era you want to talk about. You can't return
to nineteen fifty. Well, the tariffs of nineteen fifty or
seventy or eighty shouldn't be the tariffs of today either,
especially when you look at Asia they've gone from. And
(09:38):
this is, you know, an overly broad characterization. But squatting
in huts, as Jack often says in China to an
economic superpower in the last fifty years.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
That's not very inaccurate. That's a perfectly reasonable as summary.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Oh yes, subsistence farming has turned into just cities of
unimaginable size and wealth. And I think it's all going
to collapse before too long because comings doesn't work, and
they have terrible, terrible problems. But anyway, yeah, we need
a restructuring.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Well.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
On the other hand, and if EDH is right about
all this, that's fine. If it's actually a long term
isolationist policy high tariffs all the time will make everything
in the US, that's never going to work.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I just don't think it can work.
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Speaker 1 (11:44):
I do want to talk about the Minecraft movie later,
which is the biggest movie of the year so far
and an interesting phenomenon around it sounds really entertaining too.
I was reading about it that I thought was interesting.
But Jack Black's the Starvet so he was the host
of Saturday Night Lived. You see the sketch of the
first play.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I thought that was so clever. I have none of
it ever. Play You should watch that one. It's pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, it's just the idea that people are sitting there
and They don't have any idea what's going on.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
They don't know what a play is.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
This is like ancient Greek or something like that, and
people are out there doing their things.
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Like, Hey, Jim, how are you doing. You're not supposed
to talk to them.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Why my name is mar No, you're not, You're Jim.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
You're my neighbor. Why are you acting like this? That's funny.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
If you've never seen a play before, you would be
very confused. But I want to talk about the Minecraft movie,
which my son saw, and I definitely want to do this.
I think Joe's absolutely going to agree with this. What
Michelle Obama is said about their marriage, clearing up some
of the whispers that have been out there about the
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Obama marriage.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
She is a man, as it turns out. Oh my god, wow,
I pulled him over there, folks. He didn't see that.
I'm coming right to the bread basket. I've seen the
videos where they slow it down and you can see, oh,
stop it now, he's doing it.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Okay, stay with us on the way.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
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Speaker 2 (13:30):
Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Got a couple of things about marriages here, which I
think very interesting. First, this one, this is not good.
A married Alabama high school lunch lady had been bringing
a teen student home for sex. So she's forty one.
She looks like every single one of these women who
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have sex with high school students. Why they all look
exactly alike and are like above average cute? I don't know,
or kind of know. I guess they're reliving their popular
years or whatever well going on.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
And they feel their beauty and their sexual power fading anyway,
so they want to exercise.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Two things on this I thought were kind of interesting.
One the fact that she was Nobody ever talks about
the poor husband. I mean, your wife cheats on you. Brutal,
absolutely brutal, no matter what.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
High school kid. Oh now we're in home. Now we're
but at.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Your own home. Oh my god, that's rough. I don't
know if you can survive that. By the way, they're
in Alabama.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
First of all, honey, why do the sheet smell of
axe body spray.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Or or algebra? The smell of algebra she's a lunch lady.
There's two things here. There's two mitigating things here. One
she's not she's a lunch lady, not a feature. And
two the kid is thought to be a junior age
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of consent in Alabama's sixteen so she may not have
broken any law. And she's the lunchuity. So does she
have to go?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
You can't use schools as like sex hookups for anybody
in any circumstance if it's a students.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
And all she's doing is putting out the schlop on the.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Tradition out more than schlop dishing out love. Anyway, Ah, yeah,
I just know you can't. You can't run it as
your own personal law hook up.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
And then there so there's been a lot of talk
about the Obama's marriage for some reason, I guess because
she didn't go to the funeral. Barack went alone and
there was like some other thing that.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
The Carter funeral.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, there's some other thing that they didn't show up
together at.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
And then people like auguration, right inauguration.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
That's it, and and then the pictures of him with
Jennifer Aniston. I don't know, but anyway, she said this,
she's got a podcast. Michelle Obama has a podcast, and
Barack Obama actually said this himself. He said, let me
just say this about marriage. It sure helps to be
out of the White House and have a little more
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time with her. He said, she has been very forgiving
for those years where I was in the White House
and I was so you know, occupied, which I'm sure
is true.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
She revealed in her podcast that there was a period
of time where she couldn't stand her husband. She said,
for a solid decade when their daughters were young, were little.
It was very difficult. And then she talked about how
marriage is never fifty to fifty. There were times when
it was like seventy thirty him and then sixty forty meters.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Anyway, the only reason I was going to bring it
up is.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Like everybody I know, all my old friends have been
married forever, but they they all, they all point to
difficult times, like long periods of difficult times they went
through in their marriages and they're still together. And I
just wish more people knew that the people that you
hit it mad time clearly got to blow it up.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Clearly got to blow it up. We don't. It just
doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
As opposed to it'll come back and just you know, yeah,
that's absolutely true. I'd love to see more more Hallmark
movies about that.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Oh, that's what they should do.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
There should be more rom coms where you go through
a patch often when it is raising the kids, where
it's difficult and you know, there's no spark and everything
like that, and it seems like drudgery in a job,
and then it comes back.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
That's what all the work and none of the fun
stuff for a while. That's what the Hallmark movies should
be about. That's a good one right there. Yeah, yeah,
I would definitely say hang in there. I have many
more thoughts on the topic, but we're up against a
heard break. She should get back to that. It might
be the most important topic of the day. Or we
can talk about tariffs. Tariffs is much more important. Trade
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war jumps trade war.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Imagine when the kids were young and your husband's president
of the United States.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
It's a pretty one sided affair. I'm guessing. Oh yeah,
please your roommates at best.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, how difficult was that? If you missed a segment
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Speaker 2 (18:42):
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Speaker 8 (18:44):
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Speaker 2 (18:49):
Wow, swastikas the penises. We're truly the Party of Lincoln.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
So that is Mike Myers doing his Elon musk there
with the first self vandalizing car, the test movie. Why
why would you need that? Well, here we have some
I haven't watched this video. Yeah, which one is?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
This?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Is this? Eighty eight eight one h Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:11):
This is a young gentleman in a suit with a uh.
He's got a guy with a camera and he's asking
people at some of the anti Tesla, anti Elon protests
around the country, what are you actually protesting against? And
somebody gets the idea, by golly, he might be critical
of us, And this is how it sounded.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
He's anti Trump and anti Elon. Must protesters seeing what
they're protesting.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
For protest procedure, don't film in this consent of anyone's faces.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
And we'd ask if you are on public property, though,
so we can film. Easy, dude, you don't have our
consent to do this. Don't touch me. Don't touch me.
Who don't touch me? I didn't touch you for.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Do you touch me?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Don't touch me?
Speaker 9 (19:50):
Almost easy?
Speaker 10 (19:53):
No, don't all those around get up man, look at.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Look at him, Look at him, Look at him. The
microphon the freak out. Uh.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
That's fairly heavily edited, and we will post the video
at armstrong and getdy dot com under hot links if
it's not there already.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
The people he's dealing with are completely unhinged.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Clearly what's elbows? What's that means? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
They like put their elbows up as opposed to their
arms or hands or something. But they're all acting like
enraged children, utterly irrational.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, they sound completely crazy. How do they not know
they sound crazy? Fashions hair, You people are nuts, You're
absolutely nuts.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
It's actually kind of disturbing in the same way that
you watch a group of rioters running rampage and beating
people down or whatever, because you know, there's no reasoning
with these people whatsoever. There's no talking them down, there's
no explaining. Look, I one hundred percent respect your right
to do this.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
But I know, but like during the George Floyd riots,
I at least understood what they were angry about. I
think it was misconstrued that, you know, there is a
haunt of young black men going on by police across
America and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
And I'm just twisted by Marxists. But you watch that.
That video was horrifying to watch it.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I mean, I can understand how you get a strong
emotional reaction out of that. I don't understand your strong
emotional reaction about Elon in doge In hating Tesla's That
makes no sense to me whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
No, it's bizarre.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
And then we got another interview with somebody talking about
being at one of the protests.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
This woman is an immigrant, has lived in the US
for a long time.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Can they be at least fifty percent of them are
using airbnb? Is an Airbnb part of a dodge too?
This is the most stupid group of.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
People I've ever seen.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
What Elon Musk is doing for this country is saving it,
saving it so people can have social security ten years
from now.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Man, where are you from?
Speaker 6 (22:22):
I'm originally from Israel and my husband is from England.
The immigrated to this wonderful country forty years ago, and
we are proud American and these people are stupid.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
That's fantastic. Oh my god, that is really really good. Yeah, well,
I don't care where you're from. It's difficult to look
at the TESTO protests in particular and understand what the
hell they're talking about. Can you please one again, just
because I want to hear a little bit of the
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the sound of their voice again.
Speaker 10 (22:59):
Anti Trump and anti Elon must protesters seeing what they're
protesting for.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Protest the sdure don't film in this consent of anyone's faces,
and we'd ask if.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
You were on public property though, so we can film. Easy, dude,
you'll have our consent to do this. Don't touch me,
don't touch me? WHOA, don't touch right there? Don't touch you?
Do you touch me? Don't touch me? Easy?
Speaker 9 (23:18):
Almost easy, elbows around, get up the property man.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Okay, that's enough of that. So I should have watched
the video. You send it to us over the weekend, Katie.
But wow, what does he look like?
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (23:36):
The guy who's going don't jush y, don't right, he's.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Wearing a construction vest and a mask, and part of
that video this the guy with the suit and the
microphone who's trying to ask these people what they're protesting about,
actually runs away from them about fifty yards and they
chase him down and surround him, and it's just absolute chaos,
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and nobody would even allow him the opportunity to ask
him why they were there.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Well, all right, and to me, so they're angry.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
They got to be angry that he's on the other
side of the issue, because if you're proud of what
you're doing, and I assume you are, you're in a
public place trying to attack tesselas or whatever, I would
assume that you want coverage for this. I mean, you've
been announcing it nationwide on a regular basis.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
I'm going to put the whole video up at Katie's corner.
But one of the things that they did accuse him
of being during this video was he was the agitator.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Right, Yeah, I just don't get why if I'm part
of a protest, I want as many that's the whole
protest thing. You want as many cameras there as possible
because you believe you're on the right side of the issue.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
You're trying to convince other people.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Yeah, very frantic, very adolescent, very very strange vibe going
on there.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Like I said before, disturbing.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
So when they started chasing the guy, that's it's not
it's that's a you hate this guy because he's on
the other side of the issue. I think that's what
that is. Boy, God, dang, they sound crazy. I don't
know if they realize how crazy they sound.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Okay, we got more in the way, stay here for
hour four.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
On the same day, the NCAA will crown amen's basketball
champion tonight. A judge in California is expected to make
a ruling which will lead to fundamental changes now how
college athletes are paid, which could even more disrupt the
whole college athlete thing again again.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, wow, crazy. So I don't know if you heard this.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
At the end of last week, the Trump administration escalated
campaign against American universities. That's a hell of way to
put it, progressive journalist, his campaign against universities, Yeah, trying
to stop them being utterly infected Marxists.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
This is a doctrination factory.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I'm getting off track, but this is another example of
them being on the wrong side of an issue most
of America. Look at the polling, has no what's the
word confidence.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
In universities anymore. You're on the wrong side of it.
I know.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
That's how insulated and crazy the tiny percentage of Americans
who make up the mainstream media are. They just have
a bizarre view of this country, unrecognizable for the rest
of us. But anyway, later on the article, it's a
bit more fair, just because they had to report at
least some facts. The administration is freezing National Institutes of
Health grants to Brown and Harvard, and they've made specific
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demands nine actions that quote we regard as necessary for
Harvard University's continued financial relationship with the United States government.
Most of the demands concerned how the university operates, comprehensive
mask ban, changes to governance, leadership, and admissions, and end
to DEI program demanding necessary changes we made quote to
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address bias, improve viewpoint diversity, and end ideological capture, which
feeled anti submitic harassment. According to the letter to the university,
all of those ideas were absolutely you know, pillars of
liberal America for a very very long time. But progressive
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America is illiberal. They are totalitarians. They want everybody to
conform to their way of thinking. And I love the
fact that we're at least trying to clean out Marxist
in doctrination factories. They're really anti American in doctrination factories
are universities. And on that topic, former Columbia University president
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Katrina Armstrong, who just retired, was she sat for a
deposition at the Department of Health and Human Services in
connection with the Trump administration civil rights investigation into Columbia.
So she quit, but she doesn't escape civil rights, you know,
law investigations because all the flaming anti Semitism. And here's
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where it gets unintentionally funny. Former Columbia University President Katrine Armstrong.
Armstrong told the federal government on Tuesday she could not
recall students calling for the destruction of the state of Israel,
nor could she recall hearing of allegations that students spit
on their Jewish counterparts. She didn't recall that a member
of the faculty had in class described Jewish donors to
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Columbia as quote, wealthy white capitalists to laundered blood money.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
In fact, Armstrong didn't seem to.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Remember much of anything about her seven month ten years
interim president of the embattled Ivy League school, The Washington
Freebacon obtained a transcript of the deposition. So what about
student activists agitating to end Israel?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Sitting here?
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I have, you know, no specific memory of hearing that,
but I recognize the concern about that and understand that
she said stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Let's see.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Over the course of the interview, the government pressed Armstrong
about her familiarity with the university's own task force on
anti Semitism and whether the school had made changes pursuant
to its recommendations and funding questions and that sort of thing.
And she just said, over and over and over again,
I have no specific recollection of that, let's see, Armstrong.
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Whereas when the lawyer gets her, at one point, Keviney Keviny,
the the attorney for the government, said, I don't understand
how you could read that in this report and not
remember hearing an allegation about that a student had spit
on a Jewish student.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Well, you couldn't, That is the thing.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
She's lying, well exactly, And Keviny asked Armstrong whether she
called any of the quote specific horrible things you heard
from Jewish students she could not, though, she said, quote,
the most hurtful things I heard were about friends no
longer being friends.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I'm just trying to understand, said the government lawyer.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
How you have such a terrible memory of specific incidents
of anti semitism when you're clearly an intelligent doctor.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Can you explain that to me? How do you not.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Remember all these horrific specific things that happened on your campus.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I'm sorry, I just don't recall them. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah again, the oh, oh, there's one more.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I'm sorry, one more.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Asked in the deposition, what she told faculty members in
the big meeting about the school's policies and there would
be no changes in the mass policies.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Armstrong said she quote did not have precise recollections of
what she had said in that meeting or other meetings
related in the following days. You're aware there's a transcript
to that meeting, the lawyer asked her.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I have understood that.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
She said, everybody, everybody who may be in a position
where they need to lie someday, should learn from from
politicians and others that making up something not true you
can really get busted on saying you don't remember, not much.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Anybody can do no, no, unless you lay it on
too thick like this chick did, and somebody might hold
you in contempt to something. But as you say, I'm sorry,
I got a terrible memory. It sounds kind of familiar
but not really. Yeah, what can they do?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yes, you do remember, it's hard to bust you on. Remember.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
The fall of prestige of the whole university thing nationwide,
in particular elite universities is something I have enjoyed so much,
and I look forward to it continuing for many years
to come. Elon Musk over the weekend, who broke with
Trump over the whole tariff thing, included because Trump's got
was quoting one of his pH Harvard PhD economists who's
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claiming this is a good idea, which again it might be,
I don't know, but Elon Musk tweeted out a PhD
in econ from Harvard is a bad thing, not a
good thing.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
So that sort of view, which.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I think is kind of catching on.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
That's the populist view, interestingly enough, and Trump is on
the other side of it, citing a Harvard PhD. That's
kind of funny. Yeah, it's very hard for us to
figure out whether this is a good idea or not
because nobody's sure what Trump's actually trying to do. Whether
it's actually just get tariffs lowered so the reciprocal tariffs
are reciprocal, or if you're actually trying to restructure world
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trade for the next hundred years.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
So I haven't checked in with my daily up to
the moment.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Thing.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
WHOA, the Dow is currently down less than a point.
That is something.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
The market has found a firm bottom.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
So the headlines that come out of today are going
to be interesting depending on when where the market's closed,
because they started in bad shape and your cable news
channels were making a really big deal.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Out of it.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
That was down almost two thousand points to start the day,
and if that was going to be day three of
those kind of drops, oh that was going to be
the only story in America. Somehow, for some reason, it
turned around a lot. And like Jim Kramer said on
CNBC Today, look, the market was too hot, it was
a bubble. As everybody knew, it needed to correct. It's corrected,
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and here's the bottom. Maybe it's that, or maybe, as
Joe said earlier, maybe the Trump people said something to
somebody that calmed them down.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
You had a heck of a series of headlines in
the Wall Street Journal where is it.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Not facts?
Speaker 4 (33:42):
But oh here it is Wall Street starts to speak
out against Trump's tariffs. You had a couple of like
super giant eight hundred pound gorilla guys whose names you
might or might not know, who came out vocally for
the first time against the tariffs. And Jamie Diamond, the
legendary banker as well, and probably all of Trump's friends
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and half the members of the mar A Lago have
spoken out.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
It'll be interesting to see how this shakes out. For sure.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Well, it's wildly going up and down today and we'll
see where it closes, what the news is.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
And again, you know, unless.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
You're pulling all your money out of your four to
one k Thursday or today, how much difference it makes
to you?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Anyway?
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Yeah, I had my wife return the lobster to the
grocery store and get some shrimp, and I had to
return the shrimp and get some crawdads, and then I
had to return the crawdads and just buy some baitfish
and go down to the pond to see what she
could catch.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Well, that's that's quite a change in in your lifestyle
in a very short amount of time, is what you're saying,
Trump's trade war. You went from lobster to go into
the creek and fishing, hoping to catch something, hoping to
catch a.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Little bluegill or a car for something.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
I don't know, some sort of fish, if we're lucky,
some sort of panfish that can get you through the day.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Right, it's not easy. How long have I got Michael
trying to decide what the launch and I don't know.
You don't look good. We got a minute twenty.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
It reminds me my son said his stomach hurt last night.
And he said, it's not that I'm sick kind of
stomach hurt. It's like that I ate something. Stomach hurt.
And I said, okay, well let's go through it. You
ate and he listed a couple of things, and he said,
and I had some red vines, you know, the licorice.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
How many red vines do you have? Probably twenty? I said.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I said, I'm not a doctor. You know, I'm not
a doctor. But I think we've stumbled upon it. I
think the twenty red vines are why your stomach hurts.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
If I ate twenty red vines, they would return to
the surface in short order.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
If you and what are the chemicals in those?
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Hey, RFK Junior? Is there anything approaching not poison in
a red vine? Red dye one through thirty?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
What isn't it? Something like that? He bought a three
and a half pound jug at the grocer's or like
a big container. Anyway, we've got good stuff an hour four.
THERENA could be a big change to college athletics. That
makes it even harder to figure out how it's gonna
survive on the day of the NCAA final.
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