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December 3, 2024 12 mins
Nat Irvin II, Lexus Gardner and Dr. Raymond Green from the U of L School of Business visit to promote Cardinal Bridge Academy which helps students get a pathway to college with various forms of assistance and dual credit offerings in high school. 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nat Irvin has returned to the studio. I haven't seen
him in a while, win and played golf in a while.
It's good to have you back, my friend. I have
to be back, Terry. I always like to see when
you have pictures of your family online. There's so much
love there all the time, and I think that's the
way life should be.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Will I tell you what it is good to be
blessed with a good family, and as do you, yes, sir, right,
And you know this particular time of the year, everybody
is reminded of how important family is. And I still, yeah,
I love. I love being a part of this. You know,
when we think about family, this community that we have
is also a family. And the university of the University of.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Louisville is my other family, university, school, business. And you
have seventeen years in now I do. Can you believe
that you were a media guy back in the day,
way back when part that's exactly a little bit of
this and I have done it.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I have done a little bit of it, both television
and radio.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
That's right. But you're you're kind of a good sounding
board for a lot of us in media as well too,
so I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I enjoy being able to share the airways with both
you here at you know, a Fordy and with whas
with you know the ABC affiliate.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, yeah TV. Doug Provitt, Yeah, Doug Prophet, he's all right.
He was walking through here last night taking pictures of
the Christmas tree. He's a nosy one. He's a good one.
He's a good one. He's like Chevy Chase when he
sees a Christmas tree lights. Also joining us as doctor
Raymond Green. He's the inaugural executive director of under undergraduate

(01:30):
Programs at the University of Louville College of Business. Good
to have you, Raymond Terry is great to be here
on the show.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Thanks for having us.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Let's remind folks of when you and I first met.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
You and I first met X number of years ago,
when you had back surgery and I was an undergraduate
student at the School of Music here at U of L.
We were advertising for Tuba Christmas and so we came
to your house with a tuba quartet and played Christmas
carols in your living room.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
That was so great. I was like, I must be
a big shot. Now they're sending a band to my house.
To play. Yeah, that was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
That was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
That was great. It was a clever idea for radio.
It's great to see you again. It's good to be seen.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
So a lot of years since then, and we're talking
about twenty years ago, right, Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
After I graduated, I became a high school band director
and then the high school principal at Central High School
here in Louisville. And I did that for six years,
and for the last three and a half years, I've
been the executive director of undergrad programs in the College
of Business.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Fantastic. Central High School is one of our like you know,
foundational schools in this community.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
It is. It's a beacon of hope. It really is
a light in the community. It's a place where students come,
their lives are transformed. The whole community rallies around the
school and supports the school. It was an honor to
get to do that.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah, you feel the love for it too, because it's
just one of the pillars of those of the community.
That's right, one of the early ones. That's right. Ill Manuel,
you know all that works also with us as Lexus Gardner,
program director of cardinal Bridge Academy at the University of
Louisville College of Business. Hello, Lexis, good to see you.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Good to see you.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Thank you so much for having us. Yeah, we want
to talk more about the cardinal Bridge Academy exactly what
it does. Tell me about it.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yeah, So, Cardinal Bridge Academy is dual credit, and we
all know that dual credit is nothing new. It's been
done since the early two thousands, but we try to
vamp it a little bit and add a little bit
of additional help to students, so students can take part
in this in their junior and senior year at our
partner high schools. And then we also help with scholarship,
writing applications, housing applications, and all of the other bits

(03:35):
that go with going to college.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
You said, dual credit is that like bulgo, buy one,
get what you're doing, you're doubling down. Is that what's happening?

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Well sort of?

Speaker 3 (03:45):
So really, well, I.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Mean, if you're doing work, you're doing one job, you
getting paid twice, is that what's happening?

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Kind of? So students are doing it for no cost
to them, which in dual credit. Now, I mean a
lot of times students end up paying maybe a little
bit at least for books, and we have a wonderful
end I met right now from young who fully pays
for textbooks, the courses, tech fees. We pay a faculty
with it. So students do all of this for no
cost to them and they realistically every class that they

(04:11):
take saves them about sixteen hundred dollars in their educational journey.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
And now I hear this program has grown exponentially.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Well, it has, Terry, because it started Raymond. We need
to start what year was that, well with the conversation
started in twenty seventeen. Twenty seventeen, So here's how it starts, Terry.
This is a great story because it's a reflection of
the unit of this community. Right. So I get a
call from the provost, or actually the provost gets a
call that the dean gets a call from the provost
and says that we have a program we want to

(04:39):
initiate call Pathways, right, and Todd Moradian, who's the dean
at the time, pitches it to me. I'm the assistant
dean for Thought Leadership, Sipping Engagement.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
It's my project.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
So the first person I think about is Raymond Green
at Central High School about what we already have there
because we've had a long standing program with the College
of Business and not really dual credit, but something similar
to dual credit, and which is what the program that
Joe Gutman is known for. So we've been partnering with him.
So what we have to do though, is because the

(05:09):
program coming from the Provost Office doesn't come with money.
It comes with a little bit of assistance. But you've
got to figure this out. Well, what I do is
I call Raymond Green and say, look, if we can
get this started, would you be willing to do it?

Speaker 1 (05:22):
All?

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Right, So, first of all, we have to create a curriculum,
we have to decide what courses we're going to offer.
Then we have to find money, and that's where the
Young Foundation came in. We pitched the program to the
Young Foundation, which was headed up by a woman who's
called Jerlynd Green. She's no longer there. Jerlynd likes the idea.
But because we have a track record at Central High
School and we don't really have, you know, like twenty

(05:44):
thirty students. We have seven students is all that we're
going to have. Then we got to find a faculty member. Well,
we don't have really a faculty member who's dedicated to this,
but one of our colleagues on the faculty recommends Melanie Campbell,
who's in systems. Melissa camp doctors in Cincinnati, and she agrees,
and she's already in course overload. She agrees that she'll

(06:06):
help launch this program. And we don't have textbooks, but
we get a benefit from one of our partners who says, look,
we'll give you the textbooks for free, just launch the thing.
So that's how we got startedary with seven students. Young
gave us a million dollars nearly. Ben de Pooti got
on the call with the Young Foundation, helped us to
make the vision, create the vision and say that the

(06:27):
university would be in favor of it.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
And so we.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Started off at Central High School. We eventually got an
executive director, doctor Erica she's not doctor yet, Erica Holloway,
and she was the one who changed the name from
Pathways to Cardinal Bridge Academy. And next thing you know, man,
we were going from seven students to fourteen one school,

(06:52):
two schools and now I'll say, how many schools do
we have?

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Now we're at eleven schools with four hundred students.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
See how things grow. And this is all helping people
stay on the rails and keep moving forward with their education.
So they can see, you're a futurist. He gets this.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
That they can see themselves in a position where maybe
they hadn't before. That's right.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
And Terry, the beauty of the program is when a
student earns an A or B in two of our classes,
that counts as their admission to the university. Now the
student has just demonstrated they can do our work. So
if you think about the student who maybe struggles with
their test course but they can do the work, they
just demonstrated they can do the work. Why wouldn't we
want that student? And so we have removed a barrier

(07:34):
to higher education by giving students an opportunity, giving them
a head start on college. Show us who can do
the work and when they do it, and the majority
of successful like this has some great statistics on that
that shows the success. But when they have the opportunity,
the students meet they rise to the occasion. And so
now we have so many students that are at the
University of Louisville and other universities now just because we

(07:56):
gave them a head start.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
The university is growing, isn't it less?

Speaker 3 (08:00):
It is?

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, I mean, I mean we were all worried they're
for going through the pandemic. Is everything just going to
come to a screeching halt? But you're seeing a growth
curve now.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yeah, the growth is incredible across the university. I mean
from Cardinal Bridge Academy we have last year, I think
I had about one hundred and fifty seniors, and fifty
of those seniors are at the university right now, fifty
five roughly, and thirty of them are in College of Business.
So the conversion rate from high school to college is incredible.
But even from twenty fifteen, Again, twenty fifteen was fairly

(08:32):
new for dual credit. At the time, AP was all
the rave, so whenever people are really doing dual credit,
it really showed a difference. And in four years, within
four years of high school graduation, ninety percent of dual
credit students are going to college.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
You've been yep, that's the dream. Yeah, making the dream
come to fruition. Let me side step for just a
minute here, a mister futurist. Yeah, when am I going
to get a jet pack? So when does that happen?

Speaker 3 (08:59):
That way?

Speaker 2 (09:00):
You can get a jet pack now, it's just not
you don't want to actually do the you know, I
want to be George Jetson and go home now. But
you can do that now. But Terry, the thing is,
you don't really want to do what it takes to
do that. You've seen the jet packs. They've been demonstrated.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
The ones over the water a little awkward, you know,
and make a little noise, you know what I mean?
You know, my luck I go up ten feet and
come down a crocodile bite my leg off.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
But actually those that with the way that drones are working,
that same. You know this because you know you have
all that background and aeronautics, but that's not something that's
all that far off. Yeah, all kinds of versions of
these quote jet packs. They're not jet packs per se.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
But you know, I saw a story a few days
ago about a drone dropping a Wendy's cheeseburger at some
of those yard Are we that lazy? Now that's what
we're going to do? Now? How many drones are we
going to be able to put in the sky out
them running into each other?

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Well, that's the problem with trying to go forward with
what are the western legislation, what's going to be the
pathways for how we actually get to implement some of
you know, some of the possibilities that technology offers. You
got to still deal with the real world of commerce.
You got to feel with the laws. You know, you
can't just have everything flying over folks houses.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Right, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
It's just it's a great idea, and see, well, who's
going to agree to allow you to just fly anything
and everything over everyone's home.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
You got to have these young fresh minds that all
you educators are dealing with are the ones who are
going to come up with a solution, But the.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Lawyers are going to be the ones who finally decide
what in the insurance companies right the risk?

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, it's great talking to all of you. Where can
people learn more about Cardinal Bridge Academy. Is there a
certain site for that?

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yes, we have a website. It is Cardinal Bridge Academy
connected through the University of Louisville's main website. You can
literally just google Cardinal Bridge Academy and it'll give you
all of the wonderful, wonderful information. If you are a
high school interested in joining us. That information's on there
as well. We're always looking. But of course with growth
comes needing money. So that's one of the parts that

(11:02):
we're at right now is just finding donors who can
continue this wonderful program and allow more students to have
this opportunity.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
But it's like foundations like yulms that do it. But
there are other folks who could step in as well.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, yeah, we still need support. That was an initial
grant from Young Foundation, so but we still need.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Support and now we want to sustain It's not like
you can go to the state legislature over this. This
is something where you depend on foundations and that's right.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
That's an issue gift and I think we've demonstrated the
effectiveness of it and.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
From seven to four hundred, i'd say so. I think so.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
And you know in our enrollment ary, which you mentioned
a second ago, that University of Louisville's enrollment now is
over twenty four thousand students, you know, and you look
at the demographics. We represent one hundred and seventeen of
the counties of the Commonwealth, all go to the University
of Louisville. The number first generation students, which obviously they
called their Bridge Academy represent Is that still something like?

(11:56):
What is that, Raymond? Is that near fifty percent nearing
fifty percent, fifty percent first generation students? You know, our
University of Louisville is a reflection of the Commonwealth. It's
a reflection of Louisville. It's a reflection of what happens
on the basketball court.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
You know.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
What I mean toa is a reflection what happened this
past Saturday.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
That was kind of you and I didn't text each other,
but we would have been laughing about it for sure.
It's great to see again. Thankful you guys.
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