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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If I sound like my lips are all tied up,
it's because I'm eating some new heart healthy trail mix
or something. Ricky Jones in the studio with made you
try yours yet.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yeah, man, it's all right. It ain't bad. I mean,
it ain't like snickers or anything.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
But it's dried up cranberryes, walnuts, almonds, brazil nuts, and
pepitas whatever that means.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I don't know what a pupita is.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Today doctor Jones is wearing doctor Martin Luther King image
on his chest, but it's of his mug shot.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
King was a criminal man, right, that's right America. Martin
Luther King Junr. Up my dear Morehouse brother, Martin Luther
King Junior from the class of forty eight Morehouse.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
College, what's his name? That ran the FBI was probably
wearing a you know, Jackahova corset, corset or whatever you
call it, and my heels when he says, go get him.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
This is one of those things where you you understand
American history as much as people will will lionize Martin
Luther King Jr. Now we love King Da Da Da
da da Jaigar Hoover in the FBI and I'm quoting
said that Martin Luther King Junior was the most dangerous
man in America. Wow, that's what they wrote about him
and their co intel profiles that he was the most
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dangerous man in America.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
All Martin Luther King Jr. Worked for Was love and justice.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So all these people who are making this argument, America's
on this path now we're realizing this about him. Look,
America's been rocking like this. It's been rocking like this.
Know your history, James R.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Old Ray. You think he was a pawn of the FBI.
They put him there to kill doctor King.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I have no idea. I have no idea, and I
don't think. I don't think we'll ever know. But what
we do know is that all Martin Luther King Jr.
Worked for Was love, justice, equality. The man was non
violent and he literally got his face blown off for it.
That's America.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
We've seen the imagery, that's for sure. Yeah. Yeah, well
out of that happy thoughts.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Welcome to America. Brother.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Hey, I can't undertain you all the time. Sometimes we
got to deal with some hard trying. The wost hard
truths are disturbing.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
How you feeling after the election.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I feel fine. I always felt fine. I'm shocked that
people are shocked.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
You know, people were calling me up crying, and I'm
seeing people all on TV and they're devastating.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
But Numba said, on this show some time ago, you said,
the mad King's coming back.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
And here's why I said that. I want to be
as succinct as possible so we can get our soccer
coach in here. A little bit later, Donald Trump is
a scapegoat, right, and people wonder what I mean by
that Donald Trump is a scapegoat. People want to make
the argument that all of the nastiness that we're seeing
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right now, all of the racism, the white supremacy, the nativism,
you know, the misogyny, this, this, this leaning towards white
ethno state sensibilities, that it's all about Donald Trump. I
have been saying for years, as you know, Terry, for
almost a day that cad Now like, look, this is
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not about Donald Trump. This is about America. He's just
representative of the worst tendencies of America. And so when
I moved on last week or week before and I
wrote about the comparisons of Trump to Hitler, I'm like, later,
for all the comparisons to Trump to Hitler. People need
to think more about comparisons of America to post World
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War One Germany. So all the stuff that people think
about Trump, it's all true. I mean, he is a
political strong man, he's got fascist tendencies, he's got all
of that stuff, and Americans went out and voted for
So folks with old Trump is going to ruin that. Ay,
you better become self aware about where this country really is.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
You don't think the Democrats shocked themselves from the foot
of the few capacities. Number one I think hugely was
the Queers for Palestine. The whole thing where it looked
like they were afraid to say to people who were
intimating that we should that we should allow Israel to
be wiped out. It's like Democrats were. They were a
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little chepichaete that instead of standing up saying we got
to protect Israel.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
No, they weren't.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
The Democrats were absolutely down with whatever's going on in
the Israel and Godza situation. I mean they're they're supportive
of it. The Democrats are in office right now. They
are arming Israel now. The question is are you comfortable
with genocide or not?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
All right?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
As Tanahasei coach said, He's like, look, I'm not a
supporter of genocide, and what's happening to people in that
area of the world is genocide when you're seeing you know,
Palestinian children and babies wiped out by the thousands. For me,
that has nothing to do with Israel's right to exist.
I'm not a fan of genocide. But nobody can make
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the argument that the Democrats lost this election because they
didn't fight hard enough for Israel. They were completely supportive
of it. They have been supplying the Israelis. That's not
a question of whether I support it or not. It's
a question of what the Democrats have done. The Democrats
did exactly what the Republicans would have done, and the
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Republicans supported. That's American American government. So no, the Democrats
didn't shoot themselves in the foot on the Israeli Palestinian situation.
They're supportive of. They'll continue to supply the Israelis with arms.
So if people are comfortable, I understand what happened on
October sixth, and I tell my Jewish brothers and sisters
this too. Seventh, you know October seventh, who are friends
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of mine I'm like, look, I understand that I'm not
anybody who stands up against genocide, and then you say, oh,
you're anti submitic that that doesn't work for me. I
understand what happened, But now we're going to justify the
killing over forty fifty thousand civilian men, women, children, and babies.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Give them the hostages hostages back.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So that's the argument though, Terry, I mean, that's the
argument thought. So you're like, either give us the hostages
back or we're gonna kill these babies, and that's cool.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
We're normalizing that.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Human shields. Yeah, it's a horrific situation.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
That's their argument, is a human shield.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
That's not the first time this is.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, I mean that's America normalizing that. I mean, you're
bombing hospital after hospital after hospital, and every time you say,
you know, all these people are dying is because oh,
Hamas is using them as human shields. I cannot morally
as a human being by that argument. I could not
morally if I were a political leader or a military leader,
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even if I knew they were human shields, I could
not murder those children. I couldn't do that. But again,
that's just me. So that's not the reason the Democrats laws.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Let's jump to another component of the election. The Latino
vote is overwhelming in terms of favoring Donald Trump over
Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Why is that Latino men people have people have to
understand not Latino women, but Latino men, and people have
to understand that Latino is a blanket term. It doesn't
a apply to everybody, but it's telling you that you
got a certain percentage of Latinos who are down with that.
There's a great book that people should use called White Privilege.
You read called White Privilege by Peggy Macintosh. She wrote
a years ago, and she talked about the process by
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which Hispanics attempted to become white. So there's a certain
percentage of Hispanic brothers and sisters that are trying to
tap into whiteness by supporting the type of madness that's
going on in this white supremacist ideological stage that it's
playing out through a political platform. So it's not all,
but it's a good percentage of them, you know, And
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so you just have to acknowledge that. And white people,
black people, I should I should say, with all this
talk about these black brown coalitions, let that go.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Let that go.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
And those are the conversations that black people are having
right now. Right, they're like, hey, bro, all we got.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Is us When people say black and brown.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, that's not real. That's not real. Nobody's nobody's honoring that.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
You look at the attack on quote unquote diversity or
afirmative action and higher education. Asians were used as the
foil for that with the attacks at Harvard, UNC Chapel
Hill and other schools. No Asian stepped up and said
anything about it, because everybody knew that it was really
attack on black access. Asian brothers and sister said none
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about it. They did not defend them. Hispanics have said
nothing about that black struggle. So what black people are
talking about right now? And that's one instructive thing about
this moment where black folks will come in I think
more and more, maybe even in this cowardly area, at
least they understand you're on your own negroes. So you
the stand up and come up with some strategies and
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some pushes, right and an agenda that's going to speak
to black suffering, or you're done. I mean, that's what's happening.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I saw your videos. You pumped out two videos of
I saw to them anyway and getting a lot of views,
and you're saying these types of things. It's like, hey,
black people, we're by ourselves. Yeah, I mean, huddle up, team,
it's just us.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Well we better. I mean, look, I take instruction in distance.
We brought them up from my Jewish brothers and sisters.
When they have the Jewish sat they tell their children,
never forget you who are a slave in the land
of Egypt. So they're constantly telling their children who they are,
who they and who their ancestors were, and what they
went through and what they're going through right now, what
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they're facing. Because they're Jewish. I respect that. I'm just
telling my people the same thing. And I understand that
in certain areas like here, it is unusual. It is
really unusual to have a black person that's not afraid
of white people and will sit in the room with
white people and say, hey, this is what's going on, right,
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this is what's going on. And I'm not afraid that
you could take my livelihood or my life. My dignity
is much more important to me than that. And I
have a black child that I am duty bound to
protect and try to make the world a better place
for her to enter into with more dignity and humanity
and equality.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
So yeah, yeah, I made the videos. I did it.
I'll do it again.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
She's a lot more charming than you, oh did I
didn't need to say that out loud.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
No, she's not, man hey, very charming. Of course you
are white women.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Man. I sent you a picture this morning. It was
Michael Cooper, who played for the Lakers, Ricky in the
middle and me. I just happened to see it on something,
so I sent it to you, and Ricky all he
said was who's that good looking guy in the middle.
You are not locked, all right, doctor Jones. Political scientists,
what is this disparity in the number of voters? It
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looks like there's about sixteen million fewer Democrat votes than
Joe Biden received in twenty twenty. How is that possible?
Sixteen million?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
There is a crisis of faith in American institutions across
the board, all right. A crisis of faith in educational institutions,
a crisis of faith in economic institutions, a crisis of
faith in media. As you know, a christis of faith
in political institutions. There are a lot of lessons to
come out of this. The Democratic Party right now is
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forming a circular firing squad, and they're going to everybody.
They're going at Kamala Harris's campaign said, why were you
running around with Liz Cheney and telling Dick Cheney I
appreciate your service. I mean, look, there are a lot
of sensible people who understand politics and history, and it's like,
what the hell is going on with you when you
say to Dick Cheney, all right, I appreciate you for
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what you've done for the country. I mean, what the
hell is that? I mean, that's that's that's a bizarro world, right,
And they're they're they're coming at Joe Biden saying, oh,
you stayed in it too long because you're arrogance. All
this is blame the Democratic Party is just as they
lack the same level of self awareness.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
That's why America does.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You cannot continue as a party on the local, state,
and federal level basically to stand for nothing until people
who have historically and contemporarily supported you, we're trash. If
they're honest, they say we're trash. We don't really do
the things that we should do and pay attention to
you as our loyal constituents. But we're better than the Republicans.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
That is a campaign of fear. Now, people have a
I think a right to fear the Republicans. But the
Democrats need to get their stuff together. This is why
I'm an independent. The Republicans are callous. The Democrats are cowardly.
They have very, very poor strategy. And I tell Democrats
that all the time. So at some point people are
not going to come out and support you because you're
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not doing anything to activate them.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Right, that's the message to the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Sixteen million people.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Look, man, that number.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Seems ridiculous in context when you compare it to the
other numbers generated, Because the other numbers generated in the
last several presidential elections, we're all in the sixteen million
dollars or sixty million. Count Carrie fifty nine million, John
Kerry Obama sixty nine and a half million, then sixty
five and and sixty six million, Hillary Clinton sixty six million,
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Joe Biden eighty one million, Kamala Harris sixty six million.
So you see, the numbers are pretty level, and all
of a sudden, it's.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
The number spiked in twenty twenty with Biden when you
look at that longitudinally. So if you compare the Democratic
turnout in twenty four to twenty, it seems like this
incredible drop, right, But when you as you just went
through those numbers, when you look at it longitudinally over time,
it was pretty stable.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Right this year. I don't get caught up in that
as much. Though.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
What I get caught up in, if people are honest, okay,
is that Donald Trump, a convicted felon with fascist tendencies
that people know is pretty much a madman. He is
a political strong man, right that has been normalized. He
not only won the electoral vote, he won the popular
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vote too. Now what does that say about America?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Now?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I know what the news outlets are going to say,
and I don't know what people gonna say. Oh, it's
all about the economy. I don't believe in this economic
populism argument. Folk have been making that argument going back
to the Tea Party And when did the Tea Party
pop up right after Barack Obama? This they people refuse
to say. It's about race, okay. Donald Trump is the
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avatar of maintaining a racial stratification that has existed since
the country began and a whole lot of American the
disturbing percentage of Americans are willing to ignore everything else
about him as long as he does that.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Trump's got seventy one million. She had sixty six million
somewhere around there. So again, Biden had eighty one million.
That people are always gonna scratch their heads over that.
In wonder.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I don't think they will scratch their heads over it
in wonder because people saw from twenty sixteen to twenty
what Trump did. I mean, and so I mean, look, man,
he was off the chain.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Okay, then whider then that happened.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Again, and that's why that's what you have to ask
quite America though, right, Okay, by twenty twenty, Americans was like,
we cannot allow this mad man to continue literally as
to hold the most powerful office in the world unless
he's running against a black woman. Okay, if you run
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against a black woman, it's okay. That seems to be the message.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
We're closing there. That's a good closing line.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Hey, just saying, man, doctor Ricky Jones.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Find him on social media and every Oh he's a
TikTok star too.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
I'm quitting my job. I'm about to become an influencer.
Baby