April 22, 2025 • 13 mins
Ultramarathoner Tavi Wallace, who has completed two 100 mile races along with 78 marathons, will pace runners in this week's Kentucky Derby Festival Marathon and miniMarathon.
60 different pacers organized by Dallas Harshfield will run at various speeds to keep runners at their desired speeds. Tavi, for instance, will carry a sign that reads 3:55 PACE. That means she will run 8:57 per mile for the entire 26.2 miles of the marathon course. Any runner who is properly trained to stay at that pace will earn a sub-4 hour final race time of 3 hours and 55 minutes.
Other paces will scoot along at varying paces from a 3:15 finish time all the way up to a 6 full hours pace to finish the marathon.
Let's run, baby!
60 different pacers organized by Dallas Harshfield will run at various speeds to keep runners at their desired speeds. Tavi, for instance, will carry a sign that reads 3:55 PACE. That means she will run 8:57 per mile for the entire 26.2 miles of the marathon course. Any runner who is properly trained to stay at that pace will earn a sub-4 hour final race time of 3 hours and 55 minutes.
Other paces will scoot along at varying paces from a 3:15 finish time all the way up to a 6 full hours pace to finish the marathon.
Let's run, baby!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We are in the throes of Kentucky Derby Festival season
as we lead up to the one hundred and fifty
first Kentucky Derby. Lots of events on the schedule, as
you're well aware, nothing more scintillating than the Saturday morning
runs the Kentucky Derby Festival Mini Marathon, which is a
half marathon and the full marathon for those of you
(00:22):
uninitiated to this information. A half marathon it's thirteen point
one miles. A marathon is twice that, twenty six point two.
I have some racing experts in the studio with me,
longtime friend Tobby Wallace. Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Thank you, Terry. I don't know if I'd be considered
an expert.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
But I think anyone who's run one hundred miles multiple
times in her life is an expert.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Appreciate it. Thanks for having me on again.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Those are called ultras.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Is the Multra marathon marathon thirty one miles, it's a
fifty k or over.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, how many times have you done that one hundred
mile business?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Just twice so far?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Only just twice, just twice.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
They take it out you.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
You brought your beautiful baby with you today.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
He's here in the studio as well.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
She's having fun.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, playing the quiet game.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah. App here's dis interested in moms medium.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, it does not care.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, well that's mighty nights because Saturday people are going
to be counting on you, Dallas. Harsfield's with us too,
Kentucky Derby Festival, Mini and Marathon. Pacing is the task
at hand. Good to see you, Dallas.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
It's great to see you, Terry. How you doing all good?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
As we lead up to this race? This is so fun.
People work on this for months months, Dallas. They get
excited that new year comes. I'm making a resolution. I'm
going to ruin your marathon.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
They're twice as crazy a full marathon.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Too, exactly right. But people take on these challenges and
then the high Holy Day is Saturday. They're they're moving
toward it, and they're about here Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, less than a week for them. They're tapering now.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
They start getting a little nervous and think, oh my goodness,
am I going to be able to do this? And
pacers help with this. Explain what a pacer does, Dallas.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Yeah, Terry, So we have sixty pacers coming in this
week for the for the mini marathon and marathon and
essentially what they do is they hold a nice little
stick up and with their paytime and their go time.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So explain this for people. The runners go along and
what is on the stick? What does the signs set?
Speaker 5 (02:18):
It's their go time. For example, if they want to
run that four hours or in Tavy's spots, she's going
to run the three fifty five for US YEP this Saturday,
So she's going to be run to three fifty five.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Because people who've been training know about where they think
they can finish.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, if you want to break four hours, it's eight
fifty seven pace, so it's right under that.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Four hour mark.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
There was kind of an ask for that, so we
decided to add that this year as well.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I like that three fifty five. I didn't know the
math there, So that's eight fifty seven per mile.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, very specific.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
So of course for all those runners that have at
four hour go, they want to run at nine oh seven,
but if they can run at eight fifty seven, it
gives them a little bit of cushion to get there.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Get their ear What is the fastest pace?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Yeah, we have a three ten marathon.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Oh yeah, a three.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Ten marathon and we have a one forty mini marathon.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
What does that come out to? Yeah a mile?
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, three ten would be a seven to
fifteen mile fifteen yus. Yeah, if you're running the one
forty on a mini marathon, that's a seven.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Thirty eight, thirty eight something like that, seven per.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Mile folks, in case you're doing the math here and.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
The good news, but the good news is too, we
have pacers all the way for a six hour marathon,
So if somebody just wants to finish, yeah, and just
wants to do it, we have a pacer for it.
And we have a pacer that can run a three
fifteen half marathon as well, so we'll have that's a
pacer for everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, that helps. Some folks have obviously been working on it,
but they're a little slower paced, so you can is
that how long they leave the actual course open is
six hours? Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Well, we'll actually provide a sweeper too as well, so
if somebody is really having a tough day, a challenging day,
we'll have somebody that will walk with them and they'll
they'll get home yeah yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
They'll still get their medal if they get there by
six hours their medal.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
They will get the medal.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
And this year you know too, they're doing this five
k on Friday night at seven o'clock. It's sewed out
and they're going to give you a special medal if
you do the Friday and then you're is it, say
the Saturday, if you're going to double down to get it, they'll.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Get only twelve hours to recover.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
But Tobby, you're one hundred mile runner, you're an ultra,
So a five k on Friday night you could just
shuffle through as just a kind of a little quiet,
little last bit of training.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I mean, I think some people will use it as
a shakeout run, but I think a lot of people
like you know, having the special medal and that kind
of thing too. But I think a draw for that
is a lot of the people that are from out
of town are bringing friends and family to and then
that's kind of something for them to do as well
and participate and have the T shirt and so you know,
it's kind of nice that they included that in.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
It's kind of something for everybody. You can do both
or you can just do one.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Yeah, and this is a testament on how great this
pace team's going to be this year, we're gonna have
sixty pacers. Tobby was telling me out in the in
the waiting room, how many marathons have you ran?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I'm up to seventy eight, seventy eight?
Speaker 5 (05:10):
So how would you like Terry to be a first
time marathoner? And you'll run in next to somebody like Tobby.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Who's collecting her seventy nine.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Not gonna tell people that, no, but I tell you what,
I would have so much trust in faith in her
because she knows exactly what to do when to do it.
Because of course, it is just so much more than running, right,
it's all if you're running this marathon, it's nutrition, and
it's mental.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
The mind can be your worst enemy too, you know,
if you let it. Sometimes people get really anxious or nervous,
and it's like you've done the work, you can do it,
You're gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
And Tobby, obviously you're very precise in what you do.
So if your pace is three hours fifty five minutes,
you're leading folks who want to be that time, You're
gonna have a watch on so that you know that
you're right at eight eight minutes fifty seven seconds per
mile exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I'm trying to try to keep it as consistent as possible.
You know, we were talking about this, but I think
it also depends on the pace groups.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Some of them.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
It depends on kind of the pace group, but they'll
do kind of a walk run, you know, strategy.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Some of them do.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
It's called like time in the bank, where before you
get into Iroquois it's going to be a little hillier.
So they'll do it like, not a lot, but a
little bit faster so that when you get into the
park you don't have to kind of be sprinting.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
So and that's what the faster groups.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I love the park. I think that the hills actually
open up your leg muscles both ways going up and
going down, and works different motions.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Not everyone would agree with you, I know, well we
talked about that earlier. We have there's some folks going
doing an Olympic tom trowel and they use this race
and OTQ. How great is it to be back in
South Louisville though, the run up and through those hills.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
And the way it should be.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Down Third Street you're passing central again, and people do and.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
People are into it who live in the homes. They're
out there playing music for you. They put a little
spray hose up now and again you can run through
if you opt to. You know, it just falls in
a little space. Yeah, it's like I'm hot and you
run through their little missing hose. It's like it feels good.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
They probably will this Saturday we were talking about it
looks like it's going to be in the ninety percent
for like humidity ninety plus, So make sure everybody has
sodium and electrolytes. But yeah, you're gonna need to be
replacing what you're losing.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
What other advice you want to give people who are first, second,
third time or is there still new bees at a marathon?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I think what I like to tell people specifically first
time marathon runners. It's kind of intimidating to have that,
you know, unknown, like I've never run this far, this
is foreign territory. But just know, no matter what time
you run for the half or the full, the five
k as well, it's going to be a personal best,
it's going to be a personal record. Right whatever time
you run, just focus on finishing and that's the fastest
(07:38):
you've ever done that distance. So there's it's a milestone
in and of itself.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, for my first a second, I cut forty minutes
because you don't know what a marathon is until you
do it, and then you're like, you know, it's panic
and all other things. And then once you do it,
you're like, oh, okay, yeah, well it's still hard, but
it's still it gives you a frame of reference.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I always kind of also say it's like a twenty
mile run and then a ten k race, if that
makes sense, because most people hit the wall kind of
around that last ten kmark and it really just becomes like,
don't you know, don't get in your head too much.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
You've trained your body to do this.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Yeah, yeah, we'll have So we'll have an expo a
pacer booth at the expo too, and we'll be giving
tips throughout the packet pickup process. And just to piggyback off,
what Tobby says is this, trust the process, right, You've
done all the training, no pun attendant, but the haze
in the barn. Yeah that's right, right, So trust the
process and a horse pun.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
There's no high tech to this either. It's really literally
look at the sign, just no stay near the sign
that the pacer.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Is carrying and you don't even need to look at
your watch, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Because the pacer knows what he or she's doing.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
And our pacers are pretty entertaining too.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Yeah, they'll they'll take your mind off the hurt and
the pain and the miles.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
We can talk for four hours straight towards the end,
no one responding back.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So yeah, what is.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Does anyone know? Our marathon time record in Louisville for
the Kentucky Derby Festival.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I feel like it was Antonio a few years ago.
It's like a two Oh don't quote me on air.
He was trying to Olympic trial qualify. I think it
was like two fourteen or two.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Okay, I saw Boston the two four forty five. It
was pretty impressive for a career John career. His brother
Wesley obviously came to the University of Louisville. That was
kind of fun for a little local love in the
boss Tvey. I don't know if you know this or not,
but Terry he can get down there too.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
My, right's marathons before I used to have.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I'll be running these races. I'll be they gone.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
There's Terry minors, I said, I gotta stay with that guy. Yeah,
I tell you you better break three forty to stay
with them, because you ran into three thirty.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I know I did. I have my medals in a
box at a home and I look at him sometimes
and I think, boy, I must have been completely out
of my mind.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Welcomed up pacing.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Now we're still out of our minds.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Have a great one. Guys, where do people find your
pacing booth?
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Yeah, so we'll be It's gonna be a freedom hall
pack could pick up his Thursday and Friday. It's four
to eight on Thursday and it's eleven to eight on Friday.
We'll have all the big pacer signs there. We'll have
at least ten pacers for every hour there. And we
cannot wait to help you.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah, we'll be wearing neon yellow on race day as well,
if you need to find us in the corrals.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yes, of course that helps.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Dallas great Sea again, it's always awesome seeing Jabby.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
You are the best. When's your next when's your next
hundred miler?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I don't you're not doing it.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I can't as long as we ask last thing for you.
What's going through your head at mile eighty two eighty
four and you still got sixteen miles left.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
A lot of times, not much is going on at that.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Point, is it putting? At that point, it's a little
bit of sleep deprivation. So I might be hallucinating. It
might not even you know. I think the last time
I was around that, I asked my pacer if I
was still running, because I didn't know if what I
was doing was running anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Here's two words for you, Netflix Special. The next time
you do that, put a GoPro on your head. Yeah,
we want to see it.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Oh no, it would be embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
You've already done it. You could do it again.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
It's not that glamorous.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I'll buy you the GoPro. Tobby Wallace, you are awesome.
All right, you too? Dallas back in a minute on
news radio. Wait forty whs Hey, Joe Lincoln. What do
you think goes through somebody's mind, like Tobby, she's running
one hundred mile or you're at miles seventy three and
you think I've still got more than a marathon remaining.
(11:22):
Just think about what that feels, how your legs are
feeling right, You've already run seventy three miles. You have
twenty seven left. Yeah, I think, I don't know. You
can't be angry with yourself at that point you've already
completed so much. But maybe you're just like, but you're
a failure if you don't go to a marathon in
front of you. And of course that's a thing where
(11:43):
you run for twenty four hours. They give you a
twenty four hour window to do that. Oh so you're
running all night. Obviously, I can't imagine a marathon. Nonetheless,
four of them almost right. I just I suggested to
her a Netflix especially, wear a GoPro, have somebody else
shoot some of it. Yeah, I mean that would be
something to see. I don't play. Let's get through that.
When do you lose the ability to speak during that? Though?
(12:05):
It has to go away pretty soon. I would be
eight hours in, Yeah, I don't know. Eight hours in, Oh,
I got sixteen more or whatever. It depends on what
pact you're going. But still that's right. And then if
you're twenty four hours and two minutes, sorry you don't qualify.
But I got here. Yeah, but you had to do
it within twenty four hours. You got to go sit
in a cold tub, bil angry after that, I asked
(12:27):
her what she's thinking. She didn't give me a good answer.
I know what i'd be thinking about, big triple cheeseburger
when I get to th right, Rick, put a little
mustard on that, babe. Oh yeah, I'm there. Tomatoes, Oh
that would be good. That's all I'd be thinking on
the side right. All I've been eating is health food
for the last six weeks to get ready for this,
(12:48):
and now I'm going to have a cheeseburger and ruin
it all. You finished, You finished that run, You've lost
twenty eight pounds. You eat the cheeseburger, you gain twelve
of them back. No, but you have to carbeload before
a race like that run. That's true. Yeah, your body
burns it all up. It's all good.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
M hmm.
We are in the throes of Kentucky Derby Festival season
as we lead up to the one hundred and fifty
first Kentucky Derby. Lots of events on the schedule, as
you're well aware, nothing more scintillating than the Saturday morning
runs the Kentucky Derby Festival Mini Marathon, which is a
half marathon and the full marathon for those of you
(00:22):
uninitiated to this information. A half marathon it's thirteen point
one miles. A marathon is twice that, twenty six point two.
I have some racing experts in the studio with me,
longtime friend Tobby Wallace. Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Thank you, Terry. I don't know if I'd be considered
an expert.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
But I think anyone who's run one hundred miles multiple
times in her life is an expert.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Appreciate it. Thanks for having me on again.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Those are called ultras.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Is the Multra marathon marathon thirty one miles, it's a
fifty k or over.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, how many times have you done that one hundred
mile business?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Just twice so far?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Only just twice, just twice.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
They take it out you.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
You brought your beautiful baby with you today.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
He's here in the studio as well.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
She's having fun.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, playing the quiet game.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah. App here's dis interested in moms medium.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, it does not care.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, well that's mighty nights because Saturday people are going
to be counting on you, Dallas. Harsfield's with us too,
Kentucky Derby Festival, Mini and Marathon. Pacing is the task
at hand. Good to see you, Dallas.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
It's great to see you, Terry. How you doing all good?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
As we lead up to this race? This is so fun.
People work on this for months months, Dallas. They get
excited that new year comes. I'm making a resolution. I'm
going to ruin your marathon.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
They're twice as crazy a full marathon.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Too, exactly right. But people take on these challenges and
then the high Holy Day is Saturday. They're they're moving
toward it, and they're about here Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, less than a week for them. They're tapering now.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
They start getting a little nervous and think, oh my goodness,
am I going to be able to do this? And
pacers help with this. Explain what a pacer does, Dallas.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Yeah, Terry, So we have sixty pacers coming in this
week for the for the mini marathon and marathon and
essentially what they do is they hold a nice little
stick up and with their paytime and their go time.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So explain this for people. The runners go along and
what is on the stick? What does the signs set?
Speaker 5 (02:18):
It's their go time. For example, if they want to
run that four hours or in Tavy's spots, she's going
to run the three fifty five for US YEP this Saturday,
So she's going to be run to three fifty five.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Because people who've been training know about where they think
they can finish.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, if you want to break four hours, it's eight
fifty seven pace, so it's right under that.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Four hour mark.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
There was kind of an ask for that, so we
decided to add that this year as well.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I like that three fifty five. I didn't know the
math there, So that's eight fifty seven per mile.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, very specific.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
So of course for all those runners that have at
four hour go, they want to run at nine oh seven,
but if they can run at eight fifty seven, it
gives them a little bit of cushion to get there.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Get their ear What is the fastest pace?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Yeah, we have a three ten marathon.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Oh yeah, a three.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Ten marathon and we have a one forty mini marathon.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
What does that come out to? Yeah a mile?
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, three ten would be a seven to
fifteen mile fifteen yus. Yeah, if you're running the one
forty on a mini marathon, that's a seven.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Thirty eight, thirty eight something like that, seven per.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Mile folks, in case you're doing the math here and.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
The good news, but the good news is too, we
have pacers all the way for a six hour marathon,
So if somebody just wants to finish, yeah, and just
wants to do it, we have a pacer for it.
And we have a pacer that can run a three
fifteen half marathon as well, so we'll have that's a
pacer for everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, that helps. Some folks have obviously been working on it,
but they're a little slower paced, so you can is
that how long they leave the actual course open is
six hours? Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Well, we'll actually provide a sweeper too as well, so
if somebody is really having a tough day, a challenging day,
we'll have somebody that will walk with them and they'll
they'll get home yeah yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
They'll still get their medal if they get there by
six hours their medal.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
They will get the medal.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
And this year you know too, they're doing this five
k on Friday night at seven o'clock. It's sewed out
and they're going to give you a special medal if
you do the Friday and then you're is it, say
the Saturday, if you're going to double down to get it, they'll.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Get only twelve hours to recover.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
But Tobby, you're one hundred mile runner, you're an ultra,
So a five k on Friday night you could just
shuffle through as just a kind of a little quiet,
little last bit of training.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I mean, I think some people will use it as
a shakeout run, but I think a lot of people
like you know, having the special medal and that kind
of thing too. But I think a draw for that
is a lot of the people that are from out
of town are bringing friends and family to and then
that's kind of something for them to do as well
and participate and have the T shirt and so you know,
it's kind of nice that they included that in.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
It's kind of something for everybody. You can do both
or you can just do one.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Yeah, and this is a testament on how great this
pace team's going to be this year, we're gonna have
sixty pacers. Tobby was telling me out in the in
the waiting room, how many marathons have you ran?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I'm up to seventy eight, seventy eight?
Speaker 5 (05:10):
So how would you like Terry to be a first
time marathoner? And you'll run in next to somebody like Tobby.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Who's collecting her seventy nine.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Not gonna tell people that, no, but I tell you what,
I would have so much trust in faith in her
because she knows exactly what to do when to do it.
Because of course, it is just so much more than running, right,
it's all if you're running this marathon, it's nutrition, and
it's mental.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
The mind can be your worst enemy too, you know,
if you let it. Sometimes people get really anxious or nervous,
and it's like you've done the work, you can do it,
You're gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
And Tobby, obviously you're very precise in what you do.
So if your pace is three hours fifty five minutes,
you're leading folks who want to be that time, You're
gonna have a watch on so that you know that
you're right at eight eight minutes fifty seven seconds per
mile exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I'm trying to try to keep it as consistent as possible.
You know, we were talking about this, but I think
it also depends on the pace groups.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Some of them.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
It depends on kind of the pace group, but they'll
do kind of a walk run, you know, strategy.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Some of them do.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
It's called like time in the bank, where before you
get into Iroquois it's going to be a little hillier.
So they'll do it like, not a lot, but a
little bit faster so that when you get into the
park you don't have to kind of be sprinting.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
So and that's what the faster groups.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I love the park. I think that the hills actually
open up your leg muscles both ways going up and
going down, and works different motions.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Not everyone would agree with you, I know, well we
talked about that earlier. We have there's some folks going
doing an Olympic tom trowel and they use this race
and OTQ. How great is it to be back in
South Louisville though, the run up and through those hills.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
And the way it should be.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Down Third Street you're passing central again, and people do and.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
People are into it who live in the homes. They're
out there playing music for you. They put a little
spray hose up now and again you can run through
if you opt to. You know, it just falls in
a little space. Yeah, it's like I'm hot and you
run through their little missing hose. It's like it feels good.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
They probably will this Saturday we were talking about it
looks like it's going to be in the ninety percent
for like humidity ninety plus, So make sure everybody has
sodium and electrolytes. But yeah, you're gonna need to be
replacing what you're losing.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
What other advice you want to give people who are first, second,
third time or is there still new bees at a marathon?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I think what I like to tell people specifically first
time marathon runners. It's kind of intimidating to have that,
you know, unknown, like I've never run this far, this
is foreign territory. But just know, no matter what time
you run for the half or the full, the five
k as well, it's going to be a personal best,
it's going to be a personal record. Right whatever time
you run, just focus on finishing and that's the fastest
(07:38):
you've ever done that distance. So there's it's a milestone
in and of itself.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, for my first a second, I cut forty minutes
because you don't know what a marathon is until you
do it, and then you're like, you know, it's panic
and all other things. And then once you do it,
you're like, oh, okay, yeah, well it's still hard, but
it's still it gives you a frame of reference.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I always kind of also say it's like a twenty
mile run and then a ten k race, if that
makes sense, because most people hit the wall kind of
around that last ten kmark and it really just becomes like,
don't you know, don't get in your head too much.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
You've trained your body to do this.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Yeah, yeah, we'll have So we'll have an expo a
pacer booth at the expo too, and we'll be giving
tips throughout the packet pickup process. And just to piggyback off,
what Tobby says is this, trust the process, right, You've
done all the training, no pun attendant, but the haze
in the barn. Yeah that's right, right, So trust the
process and a horse pun.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
There's no high tech to this either. It's really literally
look at the sign, just no stay near the sign
that the pacer.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Is carrying and you don't even need to look at
your watch, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Because the pacer knows what he or she's doing.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
And our pacers are pretty entertaining too.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Yeah, they'll they'll take your mind off the hurt and
the pain and the miles.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
We can talk for four hours straight towards the end,
no one responding back.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So yeah, what is.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Does anyone know? Our marathon time record in Louisville for
the Kentucky Derby Festival.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I feel like it was Antonio a few years ago.
It's like a two Oh don't quote me on air.
He was trying to Olympic trial qualify. I think it
was like two fourteen or two.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Okay, I saw Boston the two four forty five. It
was pretty impressive for a career John career. His brother
Wesley obviously came to the University of Louisville. That was
kind of fun for a little local love in the
boss Tvey. I don't know if you know this or not,
but Terry he can get down there too.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
My, right's marathons before I used to have.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I'll be running these races. I'll be they gone.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
There's Terry minors, I said, I gotta stay with that guy. Yeah,
I tell you you better break three forty to stay
with them, because you ran into three thirty.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I know I did. I have my medals in a
box at a home and I look at him sometimes
and I think, boy, I must have been completely out
of my mind.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Welcomed up pacing.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Now we're still out of our minds.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Have a great one. Guys, where do people find your
pacing booth?
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Yeah, so we'll be It's gonna be a freedom hall
pack could pick up his Thursday and Friday. It's four
to eight on Thursday and it's eleven to eight on Friday.
We'll have all the big pacer signs there. We'll have
at least ten pacers for every hour there. And we
cannot wait to help you.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah, we'll be wearing neon yellow on race day as well,
if you need to find us in the corrals.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yes, of course that helps.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Dallas great Sea again, it's always awesome seeing Jabby.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
You are the best. When's your next when's your next
hundred miler?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I don't you're not doing it.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I can't as long as we ask last thing for you.
What's going through your head at mile eighty two eighty
four and you still got sixteen miles left.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
A lot of times, not much is going on at that.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Point, is it putting? At that point, it's a little
bit of sleep deprivation. So I might be hallucinating. It
might not even you know. I think the last time
I was around that, I asked my pacer if I
was still running, because I didn't know if what I
was doing was running anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Here's two words for you, Netflix Special. The next time
you do that, put a GoPro on your head. Yeah,
we want to see it.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Oh no, it would be embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
You've already done it. You could do it again.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
It's not that glamorous.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I'll buy you the GoPro. Tobby Wallace, you are awesome.
All right, you too? Dallas back in a minute on
news radio. Wait forty whs Hey, Joe Lincoln. What do
you think goes through somebody's mind, like Tobby, she's running
one hundred mile or you're at miles seventy three and
you think I've still got more than a marathon remaining.
(11:22):
Just think about what that feels, how your legs are
feeling right, You've already run seventy three miles. You have
twenty seven left. Yeah, I think, I don't know. You
can't be angry with yourself at that point you've already
completed so much. But maybe you're just like, but you're
a failure if you don't go to a marathon in
front of you. And of course that's a thing where
(11:43):
you run for twenty four hours. They give you a
twenty four hour window to do that. Oh so you're
running all night. Obviously, I can't imagine a marathon. Nonetheless,
four of them almost right. I just I suggested to
her a Netflix especially, wear a GoPro, have somebody else
shoot some of it. Yeah, I mean that would be
something to see. I don't play. Let's get through that.
When do you lose the ability to speak during that? Though?
(12:05):
It has to go away pretty soon. I would be
eight hours in, Yeah, I don't know. Eight hours in, Oh,
I got sixteen more or whatever. It depends on what
pact you're going. But still that's right. And then if
you're twenty four hours and two minutes, sorry you don't qualify.
But I got here. Yeah, but you had to do
it within twenty four hours. You got to go sit
in a cold tub, bil angry after that, I asked
(12:27):
her what she's thinking. She didn't give me a good answer.
I know what i'd be thinking about, big triple cheeseburger
when I get to th right, Rick, put a little
mustard on that, babe. Oh yeah, I'm there. Tomatoes, Oh
that would be good. That's all I'd be thinking on
the side right. All I've been eating is health food
for the last six weeks to get ready for this,
(12:48):
and now I'm going to have a cheeseburger and ruin
it all. You finished, You finished that run, You've lost
twenty eight pounds. You eat the cheeseburger, you gain twelve
of them back. No, but you have to carbeload before
a race like that run. That's true. Yeah, your body
burns it all up. It's all good.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
M hmm.
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