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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tomorrow, Well mark thirty years of the day. Doesn't seem possible.
Thirty years ago, uh, the deadliest domestic terror attack in
the history of this country, the Alfred Murra Federal Building
bombing in Oklahoma City. And it was one of those
events that for many people, you can you remember what
(00:23):
you're doing, you heard about it, and I remember we
were here at work. It was about nine in the morning,
and you heard about this bombing anything. Well then then
then within a few minutes it became evident how horrible
it was. And we're joined for a few minutes this
morning this morning by Carrie i Isfrin, who's directed this
docu series on national geographic Oklahoma City bombing one day
(00:45):
in America. Carry, good morning, you bet, it's good to
have you with us. I guess all of us who
have lived through it or remember it to know the
basic outlines. Did you learn much new about this and
directing this series?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, I guess I'm part of the generation who, you know,
were maybe a little too young to really fully understand
the gravity of what happened that day. And that's partly
why I wanted to make this series is actually because
you know, it's been thirty years now, there's a generational
two who have no idea what happened that day or
don't know enough about it. And you know, to this
day it's stilled the deadliest domestic terror attack in the US,
(01:25):
and so it felt very important that we, you know,
create something to serve as a historical record of what happened,
and to do so really through the eyes of the
people that lived through that day.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah. So you talked to survivors and the family members.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Right, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, it was one hundred and sixty seven killed in
the blasts, six hundred and eighty four injured. What would
you say is their greatest takeaway from that? Having having survived?
What did you learn from those folks?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I think that the thing that came became clear to
me and that most of the interviews we did was that,
you know, and it surprised me to some extent because
they're talking about obviously this horrendous day, but it was
that sense of resilience, you know, personal resilience and also
as a city. You know, just how I guess remarkable
in a way the human spirit is that when faith
(02:23):
is an evil like this, you know that that resilience
comes from it, So I think for me, it's that
was my biggest learning from it, and I think, particularly
across the series, even though it's a very harrowing and
tough watch at times, I hope that other people also see.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
That what is the and Jim, you've seen, you've seen
the memorial.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's a very moving It's one of the truly most
moving memorials. It's it's in the same class as the
American Cemetery at Normandy, and what they've done with it
is magnificently beautiful. I have a question regarding to me
the most incredible symbol of it, and that is the tree.
This is a tree literally just feet from where the
(03:04):
ryder van exploded, and yet it's survived, and now it
has been permanently damaged, and it's almost hard to imagine
that anything could have survived. But how much is the
tree in your series?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
The very end of the third episode we actually filmed
we spent a day filming at the memorial, so you
see the tree there, and actually we filmed there with Amy,
who is a survivor and she featured in the first episode.
She spent six hours trapped in the rubble and she
actually told me last week, so way back when you know,
when the tree, when they realized the tree had survived.
(03:45):
Some of the survivors have given saplings from the tree,
and you know, Amy's recently moved and was grateful that
actually that tree is still then her smaller tree. So
not only did that tree survive, but you know, so
many other trees have come from it too, and they
belong to survivors, which I just think is a wonderful
symbol of that resilience.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, it's an American elm tree that was bent over,
but it survived, and it's a symbol of the survival
of the community. And there are weddings that are performed
under that tree, Baptisms that are performed under that tree,
Engagements are made under that tree. And I think it
is actually in the logo of the murrh of building
(04:26):
a national monument. But that to me is more of
an illustration of Oklahoma City than any of the other
outward symbols, including the chairs for all the little kids,
and how they've left much of the foundation of the
building in tax so people can see.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
What was there before the blast. But that tree is it's.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Moving, Yeah, and I agree with you. The memorial is
just a remarkable place and they've done such an incredible
job of it, and you know, the encouraged anuine who
can go there.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
The we're talking with the carry is from director of
Oklahoma City bombing. One Day in America. What form does
your docu series take you? Yeah, well, we know you
talked to survivors, but do you take us through the
minute by minute, day by day leading up to it.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, that's it. So it's a three part series. The
first episode really looked at the first hour and a half,
you know, after the bomb exploded in that morning itself.
The second episode is then looking at you know, when
people are starting to realize just the gravity of the situation,
as well as the investigation and those initial searches for
who did this. And then the third episode then is
(05:37):
really about how the community, how those individuals affected, how
they try and find their own version of justice and healing.
And we end, like I said, the series out the memorial,
which just felt right for us.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
That produced one of the most iconic news images of
all time I think in America, the firefighter carrying out
the little girl. Yeah, oh from the nurse break. Yeah, yeah,
well that's great. Is that airing I I assume starting tomorrow, so.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's a much geographic and it's already actually streaming on
this platter.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Very good, Kerry, thank you. I appreciate the work and
your time this morning.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Carry is friend, the director of that Doctor series. That's
one to check out. You really got to visit that one.
It's remember he checked the case of the Federal Building.
Yeah he did. Uh, you got before he decided on
that one.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
You know, we visit Mount Rushmore and that's a very
inspirational monument. But you've got you got to find a
way to get down there.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Another one i've heard is the Gettysburg. Yes, that's another one. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
But if you if you're a great American, you gotta
you gotta check that out.
Tomorrow, Well mark thirty years of the day. Doesn't seem possible.
Thirty years ago, uh, the deadliest domestic terror attack in
the history of this country, the Alfred Murra Federal Building
bombing in Oklahoma City. And it was one of those
events that for many people, you can you remember what
(00:23):
you're doing, you heard about it, and I remember we
were here at work. It was about nine in the morning,
and you heard about this bombing anything. Well then then
then within a few minutes it became evident how horrible
it was. And we're joined for a few minutes this
morning this morning by Carrie i Isfrin, who's directed this
docu series on national geographic Oklahoma City bombing one day
(00:45):
in America. Carry, good morning, you bet, it's good to
have you with us. I guess all of us who
have lived through it or remember it to know the
basic outlines. Did you learn much new about this and
directing this series?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, I guess I'm part of the generation who, you know,
were maybe a little too young to really fully understand
the gravity of what happened that day. And that's partly
why I wanted to make this series is actually because
you know, it's been thirty years now, there's a generational
two who have no idea what happened that day or
don't know enough about it. And you know, to this
day it's stilled the deadliest domestic terror attack in the US,
(01:25):
and so it felt very important that we, you know,
create something to serve as a historical record of what happened,
and to do so really through the eyes of the
people that lived through that day.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah. So you talked to survivors and the family members.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Right, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, it was one hundred and sixty seven killed in
the blasts, six hundred and eighty four injured. What would
you say is their greatest takeaway from that? Having having survived?
What did you learn from those folks?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I think that the thing that came became clear to
me and that most of the interviews we did was that,
you know, and it surprised me to some extent because
they're talking about obviously this horrendous day, but it was
that sense of resilience, you know, personal resilience and also
as a city. You know, just how I guess remarkable
in a way the human spirit is that when faith
(02:23):
is an evil like this, you know that that resilience
comes from it, So I think for me, it's that
was my biggest learning from it, and I think, particularly
across the series, even though it's a very harrowing and
tough watch at times, I hope that other people also see.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
That what is the and Jim, you've seen, you've seen
the memorial.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's a very moving It's one of the truly most
moving memorials. It's it's in the same class as the
American Cemetery at Normandy, and what they've done with it
is magnificently beautiful. I have a question regarding to me
the most incredible symbol of it, and that is the tree.
This is a tree literally just feet from where the
(03:04):
ryder van exploded, and yet it's survived, and now it
has been permanently damaged, and it's almost hard to imagine
that anything could have survived. But how much is the
tree in your series?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
The very end of the third episode we actually filmed
we spent a day filming at the memorial, so you
see the tree there, and actually we filmed there with Amy,
who is a survivor and she featured in the first episode.
She spent six hours trapped in the rubble and she
actually told me last week, so way back when you know,
when the tree, when they realized the tree had survived.
(03:45):
Some of the survivors have given saplings from the tree,
and you know, Amy's recently moved and was grateful that
actually that tree is still then her smaller tree. So
not only did that tree survive, but you know, so
many other trees have come from it too, and they
belong to survivors, which I just think is a wonderful
symbol of that resilience.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, it's an American elm tree that was bent over,
but it survived, and it's a symbol of the survival
of the community. And there are weddings that are performed
under that tree, Baptisms that are performed under that tree,
Engagements are made under that tree. And I think it
is actually in the logo of the murrh of building
(04:26):
a national monument. But that to me is more of
an illustration of Oklahoma City than any of the other
outward symbols, including the chairs for all the little kids,
and how they've left much of the foundation of the
building in tax so people can see.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
What was there before the blast. But that tree is it's.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Moving, Yeah, and I agree with you. The memorial is
just a remarkable place and they've done such an incredible
job of it, and you know, the encouraged anuine who
can go there.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
The we're talking with the carry is from director of
Oklahoma City bombing. One Day in America. What form does
your docu series take you? Yeah, well, we know you
talked to survivors, but do you take us through the
minute by minute, day by day leading up to it.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, that's it. So it's a three part series. The
first episode really looked at the first hour and a half,
you know, after the bomb exploded in that morning itself.
The second episode is then looking at you know, when
people are starting to realize just the gravity of the situation,
as well as the investigation and those initial searches for
who did this. And then the third episode then is
(05:37):
really about how the community, how those individuals affected, how
they try and find their own version of justice and healing.
And we end, like I said, the series out the memorial,
which just felt right for us.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
That produced one of the most iconic news images of
all time I think in America, the firefighter carrying out
the little girl. Yeah, oh from the nurse break. Yeah, yeah,
well that's great. Is that airing I I assume starting tomorrow, so.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's a much geographic and it's already actually streaming on
this platter.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Very good, Kerry, thank you. I appreciate the work and
your time this morning.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Carry is friend, the director of that Doctor series. That's
one to check out. You really got to visit that one.
It's remember he checked the case of the Federal Building.
Yeah he did. Uh, you got before he decided on
that one.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
You know, we visit Mount Rushmore and that's a very
inspirational monument. But you've got you got to find a
way to get down there.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Another one i've heard is the Gettysburg. Yes, that's another one. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
But if you if you're a great American, you gotta
you gotta check that out.
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