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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Carolina Cares with Scottie Blaisdell and Hannah Tyler,
and today we get to talk about a really.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Cool event, such a great event.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
It's right here in the Triad, the Coltrane Jazz Festivals
coming up.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
I was going to say.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Thirteenth, but I'm understanding this is thirteen point five. We
shall discuss. Joe Williams is here, also Patrick Harmon who
is a board member and also city council member as well. Joe,
let's talk about this. How long have you been involved
with the Coltrane Jazz Festival.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Well, it's been a while.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
We started out with the getting the statue of John
Coltrane in downtown City Hall, and I was involved. I
was on the committee to make that happen, and I
got involved. I was just in shock when I was
in the area and that Coltrane grew up here in
High Point, in the city that I'm living. I'm originally
from Philadelphia, so my information was born in Hamlet, Philadelphia,
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New York, and I didn't know about high Points. So
I was fascinated and excited to know that I'm now
living in the same city John Coltrane. So I wanted
a mission to tell all my friends industry vets, hey,
did you know Coltrane was from high Point? They said no,
you know, so that's kind of, you know, the exciting
part and got me started with the festival.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
And then we moved.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
After we got the statue moved, maybe two years I
met Patrick Harmon, and Patrick Harmon I give him credit
as the guy that kind of sparked the interests back
into the festival. With some momentum from the statue, Patrick
got involved say hey, what do we do next? You know,
we talked about I'm the music guy festival.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Patrick.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
You know, he was the you know, he was the
catalyst in my opinion that gave me the confidence to
go ahead and go forward. And you know we're at
it now. We're in number thirteen and a half.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yes, Oh, you want to go ahead and explain the
point five.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Well, you know, we had COVID and we we did
not do a full festival. We did a virtual one,
and we did it out of a group out of
la and we did it in the studio and went
overwhel So.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
You have to do what you gotta do right exactly, Well, we're.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
All moving and grooving back then trying to figure things out.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So, Joe, similar to you, mind blown when I found
out John Coltrane was from right here in high Point.
Can we talk about the jazz community that not only
high Point but also throughout the Triad that maybe is
sparked because he was born here.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Well, I think that.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Gosh, when I travel, people knew more about Coltrane than
I found locally, you know, so.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I think that he was more.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
He has touched so many people in the industry, and
it's just interesting. I talked to common on one extreme
and then you read the books on Carlos Santana or
the other extreme, and then you realize. And in San
Francisco there's a church named after John Coltrane, and we
had Kirk Well, I'm visit one to visit his house,
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came to visit his house and was in tears that
he has such an impact on the industry, not just jazz,
just music.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
He is a musical icon. Yeah, that's true. If I
asked the question, no, that was yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I think you did a great job.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Great answer. And uh, and Patrick, I know you're getting
a lot of credit here from from Joe.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Joe exaggerate.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
What is it that made you feel like something like
this has to happen for high Point.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Well, it's about the time I worked for the Hayden
Harmor Foundation and we had just started working in the
Washington Street area, historic black neighborhood here in high Point,
which is where Coltrane grew up and went to school there.
It just seemed kind of silly to me that high
Point wasn't taking advantage of the fact that Coltrane's interest
in music was nurtured here at William Penn School back
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in the day. Started the community band and then with
the high school band. Sam Burford, who was the principal
at the time, started the high school band, and so
we got his you know, kind of this toe in
the water around music here in high Point because he
lived here from about age two to when he graduated this. Oh,
he's here a long time. It wasn't here like five minutes.
I mean, just when need to celebrate that fact and
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educate folks. Like Joe said, everybody, I thought he's in Philadelphia.
It's like going to Memphis. All like Elvis hide in
some kind of house in Memphis, right, the same sort
of thing. Right, we have a graceland here in my
Point the Coultran House is still here, the city owns
it and be some cool things coming with that, and
just celebrating coltraneing this legacy, and I mean the impact
of that community has on young folks is kind of
what we celebrate with the student instrument and give away
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every year.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I should mention the culture and jazz festivals coming up
August thirty first through September one Oak Hollow in high Point.
I noticed you were listed as one of the best
jazz festivals in the US. This is by a jazz observer.
How did that feel to get that kind of credibility
within the jazz community.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
You know, I think it started. You know, this festival
started from a labor of love. It was not mapped out,
It was not a business plan. It was two people
saying we need to do something good for our community
and this message needed to get out.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
So, you know, you treat people that way.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
You can feel the difference between something that's kind of
put you know, forced and created. This is just from
a labor of love. We didn't do it for monetary
reasons or anything like that. And I think that this
is how this was the catalyst. And then when we
got started with the student intrument. We said, what can
we do to touch people immediately so you can see it.
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You know, you have fundraisers, You never know what happens
to the money after you raise them. I mean sometime
you do so. Touching kids and giving them an instrument,
not only an instrument, a brand new instrument has changed
their lives. And I hear the stories from parents saying, hey,
my kid got this instrument. He carries it everywhere he goes,
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his grades improved. You know, one that got a message
that's going to yell for music. So it's the kind
of one of those gifts that keep on giving. And
you know, so that instrument travels and it gets passed
on to other people, and I think it's our little
way of keeping the music alive.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I want to get into You mentioned the students going
to Yale College scholarships. You guys actually offer scholarships for
students as well too.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Well, not scholarships, but we give them brand new instruments.
And now that's the second half. You know, as we
say where do we go from here? We want to
start giving scholarships. You want to start staying in touch
with the kids that now age out and to go
to college and know what they're doing with that instrument
and things like.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
We're talking to Joe Williams and also Patrick Harmon. It's
all about the Coltrane Jazz Festival that's coming up. Let's
get some specifics here. You mentioned the kids. I'm sure
this festival is not just for the grown ups, but
kids are welcome and encouraged to come as well.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Right, yeah, we bring we invite kids. We've had kids
from the School of the Arts. We had not kids,
the young adults, but this year we were contacted by
a youth group that they gave guitars to young kids.
I think they were like twelve to fifteen. So we're
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inviting those kids to the festival be their first experience.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
They come from.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Probably a part of the city that they don't get
a lot of opportunities, so we're going to make sure
that they get there and get a chance to experience
it first hand.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
And Joe, can we briefly touch on just the importance
of music in children's life because it seems to be
a program that's getting cut out of schools more and
more these days, and they don't have access to learning
instruments and just the power of music.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Well, you know the stories we get from the letters
that we get from a lot of kids say that
they listen to music, but they never know how to start.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
You know, how do you get an instrument?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
You can love music, but if you don't get an instrument,
you just can't go any further. And we just hear
stories when they are depressed, when they got things that
are going on in their home that they don't know
how to deal with. The Music is that safe haven
that they get in there and play then instrument or
listen to that music and it makes them feel better.
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And this is the letters that we get, and you
can tell their heartfelt it's not just you know, mom, dad, hey,
help me write this letter. You can tell they're really
telling real stories.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
How how do you define jazz music?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Because if someone's going to come to.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
The Coltrane Jazz Festival, what kind of music are we
gonna hear there.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I'm a music guy and I don't like labels per se.
So jazz music is music. It's one of the original
forms of music. I think that what we hear is
a jazz musician can play anything, but it's not the
other way around. Well, yes, that's true. Yeah, So I
just think people get confused. They say jazz and they
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think of a specific thing. If you work in any
office building, you're gonna hear jazz music, you know, piped in,
you know. I think if there's a rock jazz, there
is a country jazz. Is a gospel jazz, I mean,
you can there's just so many different forms of music
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that are inbided embodied in jazz.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
So it's just hard to pull a label on it.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Well, you mentioned those other artists earlier and how they
were influenced by John Coltran. It's a perfect example. Those
are that's a random group of famous musicians and entertainers
that have that connection to jazz.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I do have to say to your point, more and
more genres are picking up on it. I can't speak
for all but country music I'm a fan of. And
to go to a live show and there's an entire
jazz section behind them playing the saxophone and the horns,
it's it's so cool to see and introduce new people
to it in a way that might be more palatable
to them.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
We had Kingfish, which is a big blues he's a
big blues artist and he came to our festival and
we interviewed him, and you know, I thought, well, he
might not even know who Coltrane it is, you know. No,
he was just giving us a lecture, you know, you
know on the songs he plays and how he incorporated
in his music and playing the guitar. You know, what's
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the percussionist that we had, Yeah, Pancho Sanchez. He you know,
he admires Coltrane. He just is just part of his DNA.
He came to the festival twice and he just did
an album, you know, based on Coltrane and how he
played the horn. So Coltrane just he kind of how
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gonna say.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
It's like he's the AI. He was the AI to music.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
He just changed the thinking of how people play.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
No, Patrick, are there artists that you can mention right
now they're going to be there? Or is there still
surprises being planned? I mean, what can we say?
Speaker 5 (10:45):
No surprises? That's all out known right now? Yeah, I
will say I mean to Joe's point, I mean, musicians
don't don't say these lines that I think fans of
genres of music see and when you're young, you know,
you always talking about about others honorism and you get older,
it's like, you know, my off CDs right, very wide
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range of anything under the sun. Really. Yeah. So the headliners.
Gregory Porter's coming back. He's a fantastic singer and Joe
came away with him early on when his career was starting.
I mean sort of phenomenal singer he is, and he
definitely is. He's amazing. And Ryan Culberson is the headline
for the Other Day and I'm excited about since I'm
more into blues than jazz. Truthfully, Samantha Fish is coming
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to play. Journally like to have a blues musician. Someday
we're gonna have two, Joe, but we had Kimbo last
year and I was all excited about the year before anyway,
one of my favorites and so but it's always a
good time. The idea is we try to have some
headliners that have had some crossover appeal because they're really
appealing to the general music fan to come and hear
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some fantastic music and then become bands of the band afterwards,
Like Snarky Puppy had people my age, we're all into
Snarky Puppy after they've played a few years ago. We
never heard of him without coming to the festival. And
we have a lot of ticket buyers who will buy
their tickets before the artists are announced because they kind
of know they're going to get some good music and
it's a bit of a family reunion out there. We
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have a lot of return visitors and it's very quietmosphere
and there's some beautiful by the lake. Artists love it.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Speaking of tickets, where can people get them? That's what's
coming out August thirty, first September first here.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
True Coltrane, jazzfast dot Com. All the details are there
in the FAQ and all that sort of stuff is
right there.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, that's a very it's a very well put together website.
By the way, as I was perusing it earlier, I
also see it's all different ages of artists that are
performing too. There's some Heyesus Molina is on here. Looks
like a young guy. I don't know anything about him,
but I'm like.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
He's a he's a social media sensation. If you heard
of chick Area, that's a baby chick Area exactly. Seeing
no fantastic. He just did something with the Symphony in Boston.
Incredible young talent you know, he's the future of our industry.
I want to say something real quick about Greg Reporter.
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When I first brought Greg Reporter to the festival several
years ago, no one knew who he was, and they
was asking me why am I booking him? You know,
he wear these ear muffs and they were asking me
all kind of strange questions. I tell you, within fifteen
sects of him opening his mouth, the park was dead silence.
Never happened in my you know, in my career, dead silence.
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And he kept them for what eighty minutes. He had
gave five standing ovations and talking about somebody that sings
and put chills in you, you know, your hair, you know.
So I would tell anybody that hasn't been to see
Greg Reporter come as in experience.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And let's circle back once again. There's a thing you're
doing for the kids where you're providing those instruments. How
does a maybe a person listening right now, maybe I
have a child, they want to get them involved. What's
the first steps to maybe be one of those recipients.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Our goal is if you have aptitude of music, you
may not have the means and you just have a desire.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
To get started.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
You just go to our website and you can send
to a video or written essay on what music means
to you.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
And that's it.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Wow, it's the Coltrane Jazz Festival. It's the thirteenth point
five version of it. Joe Williams and Patrick Harmon, thanks
for being here August thirty one through September one, Oak
Hollow right here in beautiful high Point. Thanks again for
coming in What's that on the Lake? Thanks for being
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here for Carolina Cares.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Thank you for having us