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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the weed O' podcast, starring husband and wife
Mojo from Mojo in the Morning and his better half Chelsea.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
On this episode, I know I always come up with
the teas for what we're going to talk about on
the show. I've got a couple of teases, and then
I want to make sure that you at least have
some kind of a tease.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
My teas on this one is we're going to talk
about the Big Five, oh, because we said we were
going to do that. The other one is being a
radio wife because I just got back from Morning Show
boot Camp. And then I just want to talk about
how much you missed me when I was going. What's
your teas?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Not much?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
All right, let's be.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Getting well, all right, all right, all right, without further delay,
here are Mojo and Chelsea.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
All right, Hey, this is actually like the first thing,
or one of the first things that we're doing since
I got back from being gone for a few days
from a radio convention.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
It's putting another microphone in front of your mouth, right yay.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
The convention that I just attended was called Morning Show
boot Camp. It's a radio convention of a bunch of
radio morning shows like our Mojo on the Morning Show.
And then there's a bunch of you know, people that
are there that work in podcasting now, and there's also
some radio consultants and all kinds of people, which actually,
(01:46):
you should be going to morning show boot camp now
that we have a podcast together.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
So I'm going to let you go and bring back
all of the information.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
No, I think it would be good you came one time.
I feel like.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I've into more than one, but maybe just that one
felt like a million wrapped up in one. Or then
I've been to so many radio events that you know,
it's not your passion like this, it's not radio, it's
not my passion. And so while I have you know,
can enjoy it, and I've been around it, there is
(02:23):
just a certain type of person that goes to these
conventions and they are ex extremely not insult you at all,
but you are very passionate about your industry, and you
know a lot of people in the industry. And I
feel that when I attend these things, whether it was
(02:44):
norms parties, your agent's you know yearly party or radio
show boot camp or you know things, I don't want
you to feel that you have to entertain me, and
you don't, by the way, well you don't feel that
you have to entertain, like you all of a sudden
(03:05):
walk off of the abyss of people who are discussing ratings,
and you know, and this is your stick, this is
your thing, and I don't care.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
It's kind of like when wives have to go to
their husband's softball games, you know what I mean. Well,
I mean it's the stands and go with.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
The but you cheer, right Like the one I went to,
you got an award, So I recorded that for you
and then I left and I am there to be supportive,
but you know, we've been married a long time and
I think it's okay for me to say, hey, I'm
going to set this out like I support you from afar,
(03:50):
you know, And I think that's okay.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
You know what my favorite was was when you did
go to that boot camp, the one where I got
the award. You kept calling it nerd Fest.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Because it's total nerd fest, And it's so funny to
me because as a spouse of this, you think, could
you talk about Oh? And then we go hang out
in the bar and I you know, we're in the
bar all night and I thought, okay, well that's really
not that I'm thinking you're doing anything in the bar.
But then I go and I see what the bar
looks like. I was saught to myself.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
It's a bunch of guys, fat guys wearing Hawaiian shirts.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
And they're landyards on so happy representing who they work
for and what their title is. And you know, good
for you. Like, I think that this is so important.
I'm not taking that away, but you have. I had
one thing in my head, and then when I actually
lived it and went to it, I was like, not
what I thought, and this is your thing.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I was actually kind of surprised. You know, this year.
I first off, a lot of people ask about you
because they will listen to the show, and then they
listen to also this podcast, so there was a lot
of people saying, hey, it's Chelsea here. And also because
Joe was there too, because you know, now we have
a son that works in the industry. But there was
a lot of wives that were there, a lot of
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guys grot wives and girlfriends. You know, I don't know,
like especially some of the guys who are just married.
I'm thinking you are never going to keep her. But
then there are those like you know, I got a
chance in for such a long time. We never got along,
which I never understood why. I think a lot of
it was just ego on both parts. But I got
a chance to spend a lot of time with John Jay,
(05:28):
who does a morning show in syndicated markets, but he's
based out of Arizona, where I used to be. He
actually took the old radio station that I worked at, KREQ,
and you know, did amazing things with it. And John
Jay and I never got along, like we would go
to boot camp and I literally would never even say
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more than a couple of words to him.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Which is kind of crazy because you are very you
are a very friendly.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Guy, and I listen. I don't blame him, yeah, and
I don't blame me. I blame both of us because
I think we both ego use yes, got caught up
in things. But I got a chance to meet his
wife for the very first time, and his wife, Blake,
hung out a lot with Joe and myself and Lydia
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and really was awesome. And it was actually kind of
funny because meeting her made me realize if I would
have met her years prior, I would have actually liked
the guy because just like how you'd make me better,
Blake makes John Jay a lot better. And she was
really sweet with Joe like, she was very like. She
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talked a lot about you know, growing up and the
you know and all the stuff that you know you
as a mom, like, she asked a lot of questions
about things that we did in our family and stuff,
and Joe kept making references to me later about Wow,
I think she and mom would get along and I said, no,
she wouldn't because I would not let her because it's John. No,
I'm just kidding. But yeah, So I do think it
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would be cool if you did want to go sometime.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Probably not.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I think you would have liked this one because it,
oh yeah, yeah, Joe did. Joe did something at boot
camp that was pretty cool. It was boot camp is
one of those things where everybody talks about how amazing
they are and man, I'm you know, this is the
bit that does the greatest bit and this is you
know what you know we did promotionally and this is
(07:23):
all this stuff, and Joe got up there.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Well, they have things called a panel. Yah, you have
to explain that because not everyone talks. You're invited to
be on the panel.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, so we were, so you're there's a bunch of
different panels, And Joe was on a panel called Masters
of the Industry or something like that, which is wild
because he's only been in radio for a couple three
years and he was he was morning show. He was
on a panel with like one of the highest rated
shows in Florida. He was on the panel with Ellen
k who is in California. She's the voice of the
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Grammys and Oscars and all that stuff. Gosh, who else
is on there? Oh, Sana g who's like number one
in San Francisco, and then Tom Pulman, who's.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
And everyone's like who cares, right.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
No, Tom Pulman's like the biggest of the big And
then there's Joe, who is a startup morning show been
on for four years, doing a great job and making
a lot of money for iHeart and got a lot
of followers. But Joe talked about struggles trying to build
audience because radio is goes through a tough time ratings wise,
(08:29):
like shows that just start, you know, trying to get
people interested in him, And everybody loved the things that
he was saying because and I think that this is
where you would have been so proud of him. He
didn't try to beat his chest and sound like he
was the greatest. He actually showed vulnerability and it was
pretty cool. It was as a dad, it was pretty
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fucking awesome.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, so you were very proud.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, it was. It was a pretty awesome thing. And
then we got drunk afterwards and hung out in the
bar with the guys with lanyards nerds.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Radio nerds.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Did you ever think, in the years that I would
go to boot camp that there was like crazy shit
going on in the in the.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I don't know if I thought that there was crazy shit.
I think I was just too caught up in what
I was doing here at home. I honestly like, I
think that one thing with our relationship is I let
you do your thing. You know, you go, And it
was never like don't go, or do you you know,
I don't want you to go. It was like, go
(09:33):
have fun and I'm gonna I'll be here with the kids,
Like I never. I don't think I ever really, because
again it's you guys are just a bunch of people
kind of stroking your own ego, talking about not your
own ego, but you guys get to you know, sit
around and discuss what's going on in radio, which again
not fun to the average person, and you know, listen
(09:56):
to I think the like and to talk. I think
the fact that I went that one year really has
fulfilled my morning show boot camp cup because I again
it's just I love doing this podcast, but I'm not
in the industry like anyone can put and everyone basically
(10:17):
is putting a microphone in front of themselves and having
a podcast. It's really you know, I think what makes
sets our sets hours apart from the millions and a
little bit sets us apart is you're in radio, so
we have kind of a built in audience that has
the listeners that wanted to know my point of view
(10:38):
on stuff. I think, like that's what kind of sets
ours apart from other people. But I think it's such
a little little snippet of what we do.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
But to go back to Joe, I do like how
Joe showed his vulnerability, and that's the thing I also
like that we try to do when we do this
podcast is to not make you know, our relationship or
our family seem like we're the most perfect thing. Yeah,
I did miss you. I felt like you missed me too.
(11:07):
When we would have conversations that way. No, when we
would have conversations, I kind of felt like I did
kind of feel like, well, you would say you didn't
sleep well, you know, things like that like that may you,
I know, but it made me feel like it, even
if you didn't mean it that way, it.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Made me you're taking it that way, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
It made me feel like, oh, you know when we were.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
On Wednesday night Thursday night, and you're gone for three nights.
So to me, it's funny like, of course, of course
I missed you, but it's I think you know, you
want me to say all the time, I, oh my god,
I can't wait for you to come home. Oh I
just I of course I missed you, but I think
(11:46):
I'm really good. It's nice to have the bed to yourself.
It's nice too only pick up after yourself. I had
some good times with Luke, and so it was, you know,
and you're busy too, like it.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
It's okay to be apart from each other for a
couple of days and not miss like miss each other.
I think that that is okay.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I do remember going to that same convention and I
was thinking about this when we were not in a
good place and we weren't even in the same bedroom,
because I do remember it being really fucking hard to
be away from you. None, Yeah, it was really hard
because well, a lot of it was your insecurities of
our relationship, and I think that it was a lot
(12:33):
of it was just I was just so insecure in
our relationship at the time, and honestly, I was worried
about me too, like cause I was I was not
getting fulfilled at home, and I did worry that. You know,
you worry that you're going to go somewhere, go to
you know, a morning show boot camp where everybody is
feeding your ego and telling you how great stuff is,
and you worry about how you're going to take that.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Well, I think I've prepared you in the sense that
I don't really feed your ego constantly, like I meaning,
I don't stroke your ego and tell you how amazing
you are on radio our relationship. I think a big
reason that we have been able to make it this
far is I don't worship the ground you walk on
because I just don't. And I think that when times
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get really rough, you're just already kind of used to
it because I'm not gonna you have so many people
that stroke your ego and fulfill that role for you,
and that you know that part.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
But it's different constantly when.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I'm sure and I've told you that I'm proud of you,
I've told you that you you know, you are great
in what you're doing. I don't do it every day.
That's not who I am, and I just won't do
it every day, but I when you need it, I
think I'm I give it, but I don't do it.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Like today, one of the coolest things you did for
me was Okay, I give you a lot of compliments
about how you look, but today you actually made a
couple of three references. I think it was I'm counting,
but you're like, hey, you look you look like you've
lost a lot of you and you look like that
makes me feel good like that, Honestly, I have.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Been telling you the whole time.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
You've been loosening ight, right, But it also you're like, yeah,
you look really good, and I'm like, oh fuck, this
is actually nice. I'm not trying to say this to
make you look to our podcast listener like you don't
do that. You do, but when you do it, I
and this is sometimes in relationships where I think that
there are some relationships that feed each other a ton. Sure,
(14:37):
and because we don't always feed each other or get fed,
you know when you hear it, chick.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
And by the way, I am pretty confident in how
I am in this relationship, So it doesn't matter how
you portray me. I am good with how I know.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Why do you think I said that just for that reason?
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Well, I just when you said, you know, I don't
want listeners to think that you don't like I know
what I do in this relationship. It's hard because you know,
I get portrayed a certain way, but I also know
I have to have confidence in who I am and
where would I bring to this relationship.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, no, I get it. And I actually that's one
of the turnouts for me of you, because I like
your confidence in that that you don't give a fuck.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
I really don't, I know, and it gets less and
less as I get older.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Really, yeah, you don't give a fuck about anything?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Or yeah, I just I don't really, you know. I
think when you're younger, you put a lot more pressure
on yourself because of peer pressure people around you. Man,
I feel so sorry for the people growing up today
because they have the added of social media pressure. I
cannot even imagine. I wish social media would go away.
(15:55):
It is so horrible. And believe me, I live on
TikTok every day. I made us a snack today of
cottage cheese bread that I found the rest of beyond TikTok.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
So I have a Instagram page right, but it's hard.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
It is so hard. I don't you know, I update
it once a week. I don't. I'm not on there constantly,
and maybe I should be on there a little bit
more doing things like to generate more interest. But I
feel social media is just it's the devil basically, and
it's you're comparing yourself every single time you turn it on.
(16:33):
You're comparing yourself to what that person looks like, or
what they're doing, or what they have and or what
you don't have, what you're not doing, what you don't
look like, and it's just it's horrible. It's so horrible,
I feel. I But as I've gotten older, I've realized
who cares I And I look at some videos, I'm like, wow,
(16:58):
that's so amazing that you made that video. It takes
me forever to make a video, and I think to myself, well,
numb one. I just don't do it a lot, so
I'm not that versed in it. But also, man, you're
racing so much time with that phone in front of
your face, trying And I get it because in London
when we were on our family trip, I was trying
to record things but also soak them in and trying
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to be in the moment and trying to remember, but
also trying to record it. So you have it forever
and double edged sword.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I wonder before social media though, was there also was
that when as you got older you got more confident
in who you were? Oh for sure, because I think
because I saw it, you know everything from my father
and yeah to you know.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Companent more comfortable and you realize that time is fleeting.
And speaking of social media, I saw something that you
know read that generation from generation from generation now they
probably won't even know your name. You're great, great, Your
family has done an amazing job for keeping your mother's
memory alive for children who have never even met her
(18:07):
right and who she is. And because her grandchildren who
never even knew her, they post pictures about her, They
fully identify with her. A lot of kids in your
families through yeah, through your sisters really keeping her. Yeah, well,
(18:32):
I would say like majority of you know, Mary Joe's
kids and Tracy's kids, like they identify more with your mom,
like they they and our you know, our kids do too,
but they're the girls kind of really have kept her
memory alive a lot through them. So I will say
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that that that is the exception to the rule, because
if your sisters didn't, they wouldn't know a lot about
your mom.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
It would just be a picture.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
And then the generation after that, you know, their kids
probably won't know about Grandma pat. It'll be a name
that is tied to a school project. That is probably
the picture that we have of her on the beach,
that the iconic one that we always flipped around in
our family, right, Yeah, And so you think about that,
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and you think when you're wrapped up in your day
to day life and how stressful it is, and how
you know this is unfair or this is you know,
how many generations past you won't even and it's kind
of sad, won't even know your day to day or
what's going on, or your name or anyway.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah, well, and also but I also believe she didn't
live a long life, so what little life she lived
is always probably put more on a pedestal. And that
probably also plays a little bit of a part too,
because I think that.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
I think it's also your family.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
People die young. I think people make them off to.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Be for sure, But there is something that you guys
do with your mom that is I've never seen that.
I've known people that have died young, and I've never
seen grandchildren who have never met their grandma before who
so fully identify with her identity. I've never seen that before,
(20:27):
and I just that's great that you guys keep your
mom alive in that. But my point be like, I
think that that is a rare occasion. I think that
majority you know, someone dies, we get, you know, think
about it. Like my our grandchildren will know about my grandfather,
but he will not have the impact on them obviously
(20:51):
that he had on our kids. He'll be part of stories,
but it won't be how he was with the boys.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I disagree. I think Joey's kids will definitely talk more
about your grandfather than any of the other kids, because
he's got tattoos with his words on them and things
like that. So I think it all depends on how
that person impacted. The person that's telling the story.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Well, I don't think that they're going to have pictures
of my grandfather around their house, and I again, nothing's
wrong with that. My point being in all of this
is what we put so much importance on which you know,
we should live in a great life, but realize that
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live it for us, not for anybody else, because at
the end of the day, a lot of people are
not going to remember, are not gonna sit there and
pine over it, and you know, it's it's so live
it and make sure that you're happy. You're not living
it for somebody else. Yeah, to please other people, to
make other people happy, do it for you, because it's fleeting,
(22:01):
and then it's gone, and then there's generation after generation
after generation. You know.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Well, I'm gonna put a video together with this whole conversation,
so I just want you to thank you for that.
By the way, now I'm just kidding that I won't
do a video.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
I'm going to take it because I'm sitting here in
my robe, but it's.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Don't and I'm in underwear, so we're this is a
great little uh, if people could only see us, they
would probably uh, maybe we might have more people listening,
maybe speaking of as the years go on, Yeah, the
Big five all it's common, it's happening.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
You keep on trying to make me fifty, but I'm
not fifty yet.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I'm not making you fifty. But I do think that
if I looked like you when I was fifty years old,
I'd tell everybody I was fifty five. No, I would
tell everybody. I'd tell everybody I how great. I mean,
you look amazing.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
And it's wild because I've known you since you were seventeen.
I think that you know now you're just this old
fifty year old lady. Yep, how do you feel?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I feel fine. I mean, aside from my left knee
that hurts me all the time, I feel great, Like
I feel good. And I'm trying to do this mindset
you know of again, life is fleeting, and I need
to be around the people I want to be around
and do the things that I want to do. It's
(23:28):
okay to say no. It's actually really good to say
no to some people. It's great to set boundaries, and
it's also great to have time for me.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I do you at all dread turning fifty because some
people dread birthdays.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
No, I don't dread it. But I also I'm also
not the person that it's like, it's my birthday, let's
make it about me. I've never been like that with birthdays.
You know, I've wanted to spend it with my kids,
best friends, or but I'm not this big like it's
my day. We're do you know? I don't. I've never
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been that way.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Did you set any goals before fifty? Liked, were there
any things that you set?
Speaker 4 (24:13):
I mean, I definitely when I turned fifties, so on
September seventeenth, I want to look good. So I'm, you know,
down to the last wire here now trying to get
on that treadmill every day. But uh, I think that's
just that, like I wanted to walk into fifty feeling
good and looking good.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I remember a lot of your birthdays, Like I actually
remember your eighteenth birthday, Okay, I remember your dad. Your
mom and dad had a party for you. I was
on the radio at the time, and you guys actually
called me when I was on the radio.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
I don't remember that, but I remember the party at
my mom's Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I remember when you turned twenty one, okay, and I
thought that that was kind of wild because.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Four days after I gave birth to Joe exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
That was that was weird. I remember when you turned thirty,
and thirty kind of felt a lot like fifty. Well,
I say it this way, when you turned thirty, you
had goals beforehand, like you were really really focused on,
and it wasn't physical health. It was also like you
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were in your mental health, like you were into you
wanted to be around good friends, like you were really
big on that. Because we had moved and we had
been what five years maybe in Detroit at the time,
I think six, okay, So it was kind of like
I threw a party for you that you didn't know about.
But I remember you knew that one person was coming
out for your thirtieth, which I remember how excited you
(25:44):
were because Xenia was a longtime friend and also somebody
that you'd almost never expect to come out because she
wasn't like she visited a ton and actually since hasn't
really visited. But it was something about it that made
me think. I was thinking about this the other day
when we were recording the last podcast, and I was thinking,
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there's a little bit of a similarity, and I think
you might get pregnant.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
I will not. It's funny though, I got pregnant thirty
I did. I got pregnant that summer. So you had
the party that summer. I got pregnant. And then so
on my thirtieth birthday, I was pregnant with Luke. Yeah,
I was. I was. That was crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
So in twenty years you had a new baby, you
started a new business. You have helped countless people, like literally,
you have a million and one friends that call you
for advice all the time and help them. You sent
off three kids to college and you're still married to me.
(26:55):
Yeah yeah, Where will you be at sixty?
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Probably single? Living the life all the time. Say what
all the time?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Being single about?
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I don't say it all the time. I think you
say it quite frequently, but when the microphones are not
all right, So.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Let's do this, then, five for fifty. I want you
to think of five things that five things that are
kind of goals of yours now that you are turning fifty,
like you know you you are, you are focused on
taking care of yourself in a lot of more ways.
Than just your physical but what because this would be
(27:36):
a good thing even for anybody who's listening to this
to think about with every birthday that comes up, setting goals.
You know, He's just a boot camp. And one of
the things that one of the morning guys, actually John Jay,
told me, was that he writes down his goals and
he puts him in his wallet and every morning and
when he wakes up as he's you know, getting ready,
(27:57):
he actually looks at his goals and like one of
his goal, as I thought was really good, was he
wanted new management at the radio station. Oh wow, which
I thought was kind of cool. But what would be
five goals that you would want?
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I mean five is a lot to be fair, because
I don't.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
See if you don't if you only have two or
three or one, who knows.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
So I think I'm on this wellness journey that I'm
not you know, complete, and so I'm not completed it yet.
So one of it. One of my goals is to
really physically and mentally feel you know, you look in
the mirror and you don't realize. My dad said that,
my grandma always said this. I feel a certain age,
(28:37):
but I look in the mirror and I have no
idea who's looking back at me? And I never understood it.
I kind of get it, you know, I because you
I feel like I look differently than when I take
a photo. I'm like, oh my god, I look really
old in that picture. That's not that is the worst picture.
But so I want to I want to. So one
(28:59):
goal would be I want to feel how I think
I should feel, if that makes sense. So I have
like a couple of you know, things I have to
work on still with my wellness that you were talking about, Well,
that is that's inflammation because that went away in London.
That was you know, that's our food here. What can
(29:21):
you do about our food? But it's you know, hormone
like getting those completely optimized. I'm not completely optimized and everything.
So it's just working trying to figure all this out
and learning about it. I'm really passionate about it and
I love talking to other people about it. So maybe
(29:41):
another goal would be maybe going into something that could
help people with that. You know, I don't know what
that looks like, but I would love to. With all
the knowledge that I've been learning over the past couple
of years, I'd love to and I you know, I
talked to some listeners. One thing was I had breast implants.
(30:03):
I had them taken out, and I'm a firm, firm
believer in doing that. That was one of the dominoes
when I had them put in that just started taking
me out physically. Was having those a foreign substance in
my body. So you know, maybe doing something with on that.
(30:28):
I would really love to be able to spend some
more time in Chicago. I've said that before and I
didn't do it last year. And I think that that's
you know, as explain that well, because Jacob lives in Chicago, and.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I spend more time with Jacob. Yeah, not even just Chicago, right.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Why I didn't want to freak him out when because
when he's listening to this, but you know, maybe and
he's starting his new internship is in today as he's
listening to this is his birthday, and I hope it
went really well. We're so proud of you. But I
would really you know, if it's not too much for him,
(31:08):
I would really love like where we say, Okay, I'm
going to come out, or even if it got to
the point where he was like, hey, can you come out?
And the answer is always yes. So I would really
love to do that. And then it's hard with Michigan
State because he's so off doing his own thing. But
(31:32):
I'd love this school year to have some more dedicated
time with Luke too, even though I know that that's hard,
but I guess just you know, more dedicated time. Joe
is so easy if I call and say, hey, what
do you you know, do you want me to come out?
And yesterday? I want to do here yesterday, So he's
he's you know, he wants me there all the time.
(31:54):
But it's the other two not that they don't want
me there, but I know that they have busy lives
and I just want to spend After London, we had
so much fun, at least I did, and I want
to be with them more.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
You know, do you want to spend more time with
them or are you hoping that they want they want
you to spend more time with them.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Oh, I would hope that they Yeah, that they would
want it, but and I guess, you know, it's not
that it's quantity, but it's quality. Like you know, one
thing Jacob and I talked about is I want to
go out there and we want to go to this
one place six that we could not get to see
in London, and it would just you know, so you
(32:37):
have a goal of wanting to do that. The problem
is life gets in the way, and you know, we
have this coming up in this and this and this,
and so you know, I think it's really important that
I just make a point to saying, hey, during this time,
pick a weekend and let me know and let me
know if you're free, and I'd love to come out.
(32:59):
So yeah, in time with the kids. What else is
another goal? I mean, getting organized more because I'm really
bad at that. I used to be so good at
that and I'm not anymore. I need to get organized.
(33:20):
Pretty boring what you're looking at me?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Like, No, I just I'll spend more time with you.
But oh but here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Though, Yeah we do, but I don't feel that that's
a goal of mine because we are, like I think
we've really made it a point. Well I'm is it rude?
I mean, I'm just being truthful and honest. As the
kids have gotten as the kids have left the house, I.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Mean, we're going to have each other for a long time.
It's those kids that are going to be starting and.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
It's to me, it's not it's not a goal because
we do it. Yeah, I mean we literally live together
and see each other every day. I mean I think
it's it's not like we're not eating dinners together and
not spending time together.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
So sorry if that hurt your feelings that you're not a.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Goal, but I swear to God it didn't know.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
You are my present, like it's not you.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Know, or I would like to tell you if you can,
am I good? Do you have me more? You have more?
I've got five things, five for your fifty that I'm
going to tell you that I'm very excited about for you.
Number First off, I've known you since you were seventeen.
Number one, never in a million years thought that you
would be the wife that you are. I thought you'd
(34:34):
be a little bit better. No, I never thought that. Honestly,
I go to you know, all the times that I've
gone through anything, You've always been there for me, so
first and foremost even probably then wife, you're a great friend,
so you're amazing, and then you're also a great wife.
So maybe that's number two. Okay, could never in a
(34:56):
million years have ever predicted that you would be the
mother to our children, like you are really blown away,
like you're no your Your mom and I have this conversation.
We actually talked. Uh, we've been talking a lot recently,
(35:17):
your mom and dad and I because your birthday's coming up,
and I was talking to your mom about like what
kind of a mom you are and you come from
an amazing mother. But she says it, you know, she's
wowed by what kind of mom you are. I'm even
more wowed, and I see it every single day. Just
(35:39):
blows me away. I mean I see you at your worst,
like where you're fucking screaming at them, like yeah, and
I'm having I feel like I'm you know, having to
everything's okay, whatever, But I also see you every day
more so at your best, and your worst actually is
your best because your meaning as well with them, you're
(36:02):
an amazing person, Like you are literally an amazing person.
You have done so much for people that literally I
don't even know who the fuck they are. Reminds me
a lot of my mom. I know, we talk about
my mom, but it was very similar, like where my
mom would do things and we'd be like, who the
fuck is this person? Your parents are both like that
(36:27):
like we've spent countless Thanksgivings.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
With holidays with strangers, a lot of.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Very interesting people. It's like it's like it's like I
don't know everybody that went to the UH to the
Birth of Jesus, Like where are all these people come from?
And then as far as you as a like both
looks and stuff wise, I always, I always, you know,
(36:53):
joked when I first met you at Oh yeah, I remember,
I'm one of my things. I poked fun at was
like you're oh, look at you. You're like the cute
girl or whatever the deal is. And I kind of like,
poked fun, You're still that girl, Like it's pretty wild,
Like I mean, you're an unbelievably beautiful woman. But I
still look at you every single day and I see
the same person. Oh thank you, so thank god that
(37:17):
you're that way, because if you would have had a
horrible fire in an accident and not look that same.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Way, I mean, it would still be the same person.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I'd have to lie about it on the podcast. But no,
So that's that's all I have to say. Well, thank
you and happy almost. I won't say the word because
you're not.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
I will say this though, what you can say is oh,
you got more to say? I will say this. I
take the compliments, you know, and thank you for all
of that. I am the mother that I am because
I've been given the space to do that by you,
So I will that's the only thing. I'm gonna give you.
(37:54):
Props For the rest, I'll take it from myselba I have.
It's my most rewarding accomplishment. I will give you some
of the credit because you have afforded me a space
to be a stay at home mom, and you have
(38:16):
supported a lot of things that I've done with them
so well.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
My hope is that I worked the first thirty years
of our marriage, you'll work the last thirty.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
No, I'm not no.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
By the way, to our listeners, I hope you got
something out of this. If you didn't, I got something,
and it was able to spend time with Chelsea and
to our sons whose mom basically said, you know, she
would like to spend time with you. I promise I
won't come with the end.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
The end
Welcome to the weed O' podcast, starring husband and wife
Mojo from Mojo in the Morning and his better half Chelsea.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
On this episode, I know I always come up with
the teas for what we're going to talk about on
the show. I've got a couple of teases, and then
I want to make sure that you at least have
some kind of a tease.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
My teas on this one is we're going to talk
about the Big Five, oh, because we said we were
going to do that. The other one is being a
radio wife because I just got back from Morning Show
boot Camp. And then I just want to talk about
how much you missed me when I was going. What's
your teas?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Not much?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
All right, let's be.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Getting well, all right, all right, all right, without further delay,
here are Mojo and Chelsea.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
All right, Hey, this is actually like the first thing,
or one of the first things that we're doing since
I got back from being gone for a few days
from a radio convention.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
It's putting another microphone in front of your mouth, right yay.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
The convention that I just attended was called Morning Show
boot Camp. It's a radio convention of a bunch of
radio morning shows like our Mojo on the Morning Show.
And then there's a bunch of you know, people that
are there that work in podcasting now, and there's also
some radio consultants and all kinds of people, which actually,
(01:46):
you should be going to morning show boot camp now
that we have a podcast together.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
So I'm going to let you go and bring back
all of the information.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
No, I think it would be good you came one time.
I feel like.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I've into more than one, but maybe just that one
felt like a million wrapped up in one. Or then
I've been to so many radio events that you know,
it's not your passion like this, it's not radio, it's
not my passion. And so while I have you know,
can enjoy it, and I've been around it, there is
(02:23):
just a certain type of person that goes to these
conventions and they are ex extremely not insult you at all,
but you are very passionate about your industry, and you
know a lot of people in the industry. And I
feel that when I attend these things, whether it was
(02:44):
norms parties, your agent's you know yearly party or radio
show boot camp or you know things, I don't want
you to feel that you have to entertain me, and
you don't, by the way, well you don't feel that
you have to entertain, like you all of a sudden
(03:05):
walk off of the abyss of people who are discussing ratings,
and you know, and this is your stick, this is
your thing, and I don't care.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
It's kind of like when wives have to go to
their husband's softball games, you know what I mean. Well,
I mean it's the stands and go with.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
The but you cheer, right Like the one I went to,
you got an award, So I recorded that for you
and then I left and I am there to be supportive,
but you know, we've been married a long time and
I think it's okay for me to say, hey, I'm
going to set this out like I support you from afar,
(03:50):
you know, And I think that's okay.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
You know what my favorite was was when you did
go to that boot camp, the one where I got
the award. You kept calling it nerd Fest.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Because it's total nerd fest, And it's so funny to
me because as a spouse of this, you think, could
you talk about Oh? And then we go hang out
in the bar and I you know, we're in the
bar all night and I thought, okay, well that's really
not that I'm thinking you're doing anything in the bar.
But then I go and I see what the bar
looks like. I was saught to myself.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
It's a bunch of guys, fat guys wearing Hawaiian shirts.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
And they're landyards on so happy representing who they work
for and what their title is. And you know, good
for you. Like, I think that this is so important.
I'm not taking that away, but you have. I had
one thing in my head, and then when I actually
lived it and went to it, I was like, not
what I thought, and this is your thing.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I was actually kind of surprised. You know, this year.
I first off, a lot of people ask about you
because they will listen to the show, and then they
listen to also this podcast, so there was a lot
of people saying, hey, it's Chelsea here. And also because
Joe was there too, because you know, now we have
a son that works in the industry. But there was
a lot of wives that were there, a lot of
(05:07):
guys grot wives and girlfriends. You know, I don't know,
like especially some of the guys who are just married.
I'm thinking you are never going to keep her. But
then there are those like you know, I got a
chance in for such a long time. We never got along,
which I never understood why. I think a lot of
it was just ego on both parts. But I got
a chance to spend a lot of time with John Jay,
(05:28):
who does a morning show in syndicated markets, but he's
based out of Arizona, where I used to be. He
actually took the old radio station that I worked at, KREQ,
and you know, did amazing things with it. And John
Jay and I never got along, like we would go
to boot camp and I literally would never even say
(05:48):
more than a couple of words to him.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Which is kind of crazy because you are very you
are a very friendly.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Guy, and I listen. I don't blame him, yeah, and
I don't blame me. I blame both of us because
I think we both ego use yes, got caught up
in things. But I got a chance to meet his
wife for the very first time, and his wife, Blake,
hung out a lot with Joe and myself and Lydia
(06:14):
and really was awesome. And it was actually kind of
funny because meeting her made me realize if I would
have met her years prior, I would have actually liked
the guy because just like how you'd make me better,
Blake makes John Jay a lot better. And she was
really sweet with Joe like, she was very like. She
(06:35):
talked a lot about you know, growing up and the
you know and all the stuff that you know you
as a mom, like, she asked a lot of questions
about things that we did in our family and stuff,
and Joe kept making references to me later about Wow,
I think she and mom would get along and I said, no,
she wouldn't because I would not let her because it's John. No,
I'm just kidding. But yeah, So I do think it
(06:58):
would be cool if you did want to go sometime.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Probably not.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I think you would have liked this one because it,
oh yeah, yeah, Joe did. Joe did something at boot
camp that was pretty cool. It was boot camp is
one of those things where everybody talks about how amazing
they are and man, I'm you know, this is the
bit that does the greatest bit and this is you
know what you know we did promotionally and this is
(07:23):
all this stuff, and Joe got up there.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Well, they have things called a panel. Yah, you have
to explain that because not everyone talks. You're invited to
be on the panel.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, so we were, so you're there's a bunch of
different panels, And Joe was on a panel called Masters
of the Industry or something like that, which is wild
because he's only been in radio for a couple three
years and he was he was morning show. He was
on a panel with like one of the highest rated
shows in Florida. He was on the panel with Ellen
k who is in California. She's the voice of the
(07:55):
Grammys and Oscars and all that stuff. Gosh, who else
is on there? Oh, Sana g who's like number one
in San Francisco, and then Tom Pulman, who's.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
And everyone's like who cares, right.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
No, Tom Pulman's like the biggest of the big And
then there's Joe, who is a startup morning show been
on for four years, doing a great job and making
a lot of money for iHeart and got a lot
of followers. But Joe talked about struggles trying to build
audience because radio is goes through a tough time ratings wise,
(08:29):
like shows that just start, you know, trying to get
people interested in him, And everybody loved the things that
he was saying because and I think that this is
where you would have been so proud of him. He
didn't try to beat his chest and sound like he
was the greatest. He actually showed vulnerability and it was
pretty cool. It was as a dad, it was pretty
(08:51):
fucking awesome.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, so you were very proud.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, it was. It was a pretty awesome thing. And
then we got drunk afterwards and hung out in the
bar with the guys with lanyards nerds.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Radio nerds.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Did you ever think, in the years that I would
go to boot camp that there was like crazy shit
going on in the in the.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I don't know if I thought that there was crazy shit.
I think I was just too caught up in what
I was doing here at home. I honestly like, I
think that one thing with our relationship is I let
you do your thing. You know, you go, And it
was never like don't go, or do you you know,
I don't want you to go. It was like, go
(09:33):
have fun and I'm gonna I'll be here with the kids,
Like I never. I don't think I ever really, because
again it's you guys are just a bunch of people
kind of stroking your own ego, talking about not your
own ego, but you guys get to you know, sit
around and discuss what's going on in radio, which again
not fun to the average person, and you know, listen
(09:56):
to I think the like and to talk. I think
the fact that I went that one year really has
fulfilled my morning show boot camp cup because I again
it's just I love doing this podcast, but I'm not
in the industry like anyone can put and everyone basically
(10:17):
is putting a microphone in front of themselves and having
a podcast. It's really you know, I think what makes
sets our sets hours apart from the millions and a
little bit sets us apart is you're in radio, so
we have kind of a built in audience that has
the listeners that wanted to know my point of view
(10:38):
on stuff. I think, like that's what kind of sets
ours apart from other people. But I think it's such
a little little snippet of what we do.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
But to go back to Joe, I do like how
Joe showed his vulnerability, and that's the thing I also
like that we try to do when we do this
podcast is to not make you know, our relationship or
our family seem like we're the most perfect thing. Yeah,
I did miss you. I felt like you missed me too.
(11:07):
When we would have conversations that way. No, when we
would have conversations, I kind of felt like I did
kind of feel like, well, you would say you didn't
sleep well, you know, things like that like that may you,
I know, but it made me feel like it, even
if you didn't mean it that way, it.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Made me you're taking it that way, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
It made me feel like, oh, you know when we were.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
On Wednesday night Thursday night, and you're gone for three nights.
So to me, it's funny like, of course, of course
I missed you, but it's I think you know, you
want me to say all the time, I, oh my god,
I can't wait for you to come home. Oh I
just I of course I missed you, but I think
(11:46):
I'm really good. It's nice to have the bed to yourself.
It's nice too only pick up after yourself. I had
some good times with Luke, and so it was, you know,
and you're busy too, like it.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
It's okay to be apart from each other for a
couple of days and not miss like miss each other.
I think that that is okay.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I do remember going to that same convention and I
was thinking about this when we were not in a
good place and we weren't even in the same bedroom,
because I do remember it being really fucking hard to
be away from you. None, Yeah, it was really hard
because well, a lot of it was your insecurities of
our relationship, and I think that it was a lot
(12:33):
of it was just I was just so insecure in
our relationship at the time, and honestly, I was worried
about me too, like cause I was I was not
getting fulfilled at home, and I did worry that. You know,
you worry that you're going to go somewhere, go to
you know, a morning show boot camp where everybody is
feeding your ego and telling you how great stuff is,
and you worry about how you're going to take that.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Well, I think I've prepared you in the sense that
I don't really feed your ego constantly, like I meaning,
I don't stroke your ego and tell you how amazing
you are on radio our relationship. I think a big
reason that we have been able to make it this
far is I don't worship the ground you walk on
because I just don't. And I think that when times
(13:19):
get really rough, you're just already kind of used to
it because I'm not gonna you have so many people
that stroke your ego and fulfill that role for you,
and that you know that part.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
But it's different constantly when.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I'm sure and I've told you that I'm proud of you,
I've told you that you you know, you are great
in what you're doing. I don't do it every day.
That's not who I am, and I just won't do
it every day, but I when you need it, I
think I'm I give it, but I don't do it.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Like today, one of the coolest things you did for
me was Okay, I give you a lot of compliments
about how you look, but today you actually made a
couple of three references. I think it was I'm counting,
but you're like, hey, you look you look like you've
lost a lot of you and you look like that
makes me feel good like that, Honestly, I have.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Been telling you the whole time.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
You've been loosening ight, right, But it also you're like, yeah,
you look really good, and I'm like, oh fuck, this
is actually nice. I'm not trying to say this to
make you look to our podcast listener like you don't
do that. You do, but when you do it, I
and this is sometimes in relationships where I think that
there are some relationships that feed each other a ton. Sure,
(14:37):
and because we don't always feed each other or get fed,
you know when you hear it, chick.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
And by the way, I am pretty confident in how
I am in this relationship, So it doesn't matter how
you portray me. I am good with how I know.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Why do you think I said that just for that reason?
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Well, I just when you said, you know, I don't
want listeners to think that you don't like I know
what I do in this relationship. It's hard because you know,
I get portrayed a certain way, but I also know
I have to have confidence in who I am and
where would I bring to this relationship.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, no, I get it. And I actually that's one
of the turnouts for me of you, because I like
your confidence in that that you don't give a fuck.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
I really don't, I know, and it gets less and
less as I get older.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Really, yeah, you don't give a fuck about anything?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Or yeah, I just I don't really, you know. I
think when you're younger, you put a lot more pressure
on yourself because of peer pressure people around you. Man,
I feel so sorry for the people growing up today
because they have the added of social media pressure. I
cannot even imagine. I wish social media would go away.
(15:55):
It is so horrible. And believe me, I live on
TikTok every day. I made us a snack today of
cottage cheese bread that I found the rest of beyond TikTok.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
So I have a Instagram page right, but it's hard.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
It is so hard. I don't you know, I update
it once a week. I don't. I'm not on there constantly,
and maybe I should be on there a little bit
more doing things like to generate more interest. But I
feel social media is just it's the devil basically, and
it's you're comparing yourself every single time you turn it on.
(16:33):
You're comparing yourself to what that person looks like, or
what they're doing, or what they have and or what
you don't have, what you're not doing, what you don't
look like, and it's just it's horrible. It's so horrible,
I feel. I But as I've gotten older, I've realized
who cares I And I look at some videos, I'm like, wow,
(16:58):
that's so amazing that you made that video. It takes
me forever to make a video, and I think to myself, well,
numb one. I just don't do it a lot, so
I'm not that versed in it. But also, man, you're
racing so much time with that phone in front of
your face, trying And I get it because in London
when we were on our family trip, I was trying
to record things but also soak them in and trying
(17:20):
to be in the moment and trying to remember, but
also trying to record it. So you have it forever
and double edged sword.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I wonder before social media though, was there also was
that when as you got older you got more confident
in who you were? Oh for sure, because I think
because I saw it, you know everything from my father
and yeah to you know.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Companent more comfortable and you realize that time is fleeting.
And speaking of social media, I saw something that you
know read that generation from generation from generation now they
probably won't even know your name. You're great, great, Your
family has done an amazing job for keeping your mother's
memory alive for children who have never even met her
(18:07):
right and who she is. And because her grandchildren who
never even knew her, they post pictures about her, They
fully identify with her. A lot of kids in your
families through yeah, through your sisters really keeping her. Yeah, well,
(18:32):
I would say like majority of you know, Mary Joe's
kids and Tracy's kids, like they identify more with your mom,
like they they and our you know, our kids do too,
but they're the girls kind of really have kept her
memory alive a lot through them. So I will say
(18:56):
that that that is the exception to the rule, because
if your sisters didn't, they wouldn't know a lot about
your mom.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
It would just be a picture.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
And then the generation after that, you know, their kids
probably won't know about Grandma pat. It'll be a name
that is tied to a school project. That is probably
the picture that we have of her on the beach,
that the iconic one that we always flipped around in
our family, right, Yeah, And so you think about that,
(19:28):
and you think when you're wrapped up in your day
to day life and how stressful it is, and how
you know this is unfair or this is you know,
how many generations past you won't even and it's kind
of sad, won't even know your day to day or
what's going on, or your name or anyway.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah, well, and also but I also believe she didn't
live a long life, so what little life she lived
is always probably put more on a pedestal. And that
probably also plays a little bit of a part too,
because I think that.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
I think it's also your family.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
People die young. I think people make them off to.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Be for sure, But there is something that you guys
do with your mom that is I've never seen that.
I've known people that have died young, and I've never
seen grandchildren who have never met their grandma before who
so fully identify with her identity. I've never seen that before,
(20:27):
and I just that's great that you guys keep your
mom alive in that. But my point be like, I
think that that is a rare occasion. I think that
majority you know, someone dies, we get, you know, think
about it. Like my our grandchildren will know about my grandfather,
but he will not have the impact on them obviously
(20:51):
that he had on our kids. He'll be part of stories,
but it won't be how he was with the boys.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I disagree. I think Joey's kids will definitely talk more
about your grandfather than any of the other kids, because
he's got tattoos with his words on them and things
like that. So I think it all depends on how
that person impacted. The person that's telling the story.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Well, I don't think that they're going to have pictures
of my grandfather around their house, and I again, nothing's
wrong with that. My point being in all of this
is what we put so much importance on which you know,
we should live in a great life, but realize that
(21:36):
live it for us, not for anybody else, because at
the end of the day, a lot of people are
not going to remember, are not gonna sit there and
pine over it, and you know, it's it's so live
it and make sure that you're happy. You're not living
it for somebody else. Yeah, to please other people, to
make other people happy, do it for you, because it's fleeting,
(22:01):
and then it's gone, and then there's generation after generation
after generation. You know.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Well, I'm gonna put a video together with this whole conversation,
so I just want you to thank you for that.
By the way, now I'm just kidding that I won't
do a video.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
I'm going to take it because I'm sitting here in
my robe, but it's.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Don't and I'm in underwear, so we're this is a
great little uh, if people could only see us, they
would probably uh, maybe we might have more people listening,
maybe speaking of as the years go on, Yeah, the
Big five all it's common, it's happening.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
You keep on trying to make me fifty, but I'm
not fifty yet.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I'm not making you fifty. But I do think that
if I looked like you when I was fifty years old,
I'd tell everybody I was fifty five. No, I would
tell everybody. I'd tell everybody I how great. I mean,
you look amazing.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
And it's wild because I've known you since you were seventeen.
I think that you know now you're just this old
fifty year old lady. Yep, how do you feel?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I feel fine. I mean, aside from my left knee
that hurts me all the time, I feel great, Like
I feel good. And I'm trying to do this mindset
you know of again, life is fleeting, and I need
to be around the people I want to be around
and do the things that I want to do. It's
(23:28):
okay to say no. It's actually really good to say
no to some people. It's great to set boundaries, and
it's also great to have time for me.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I do you at all dread turning fifty because some
people dread birthdays.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
No, I don't dread it. But I also I'm also
not the person that it's like, it's my birthday, let's
make it about me. I've never been like that with birthdays.
You know, I've wanted to spend it with my kids,
best friends, or but I'm not this big like it's
my day. We're do you know? I don't. I've never
(24:08):
been that way.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Did you set any goals before fifty? Liked, were there
any things that you set?
Speaker 4 (24:13):
I mean, I definitely when I turned fifties, so on
September seventeenth, I want to look good. So I'm, you know,
down to the last wire here now trying to get
on that treadmill every day. But uh, I think that's
just that, like I wanted to walk into fifty feeling
good and looking good.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I remember a lot of your birthdays, Like I actually
remember your eighteenth birthday, Okay, I remember your dad. Your
mom and dad had a party for you. I was
on the radio at the time, and you guys actually
called me when I was on the radio.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
I don't remember that, but I remember the party at
my mom's Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I remember when you turned twenty one, okay, and I
thought that that was kind of wild because.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Four days after I gave birth to Joe exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
That was that was weird. I remember when you turned thirty,
and thirty kind of felt a lot like fifty. Well,
I say it this way, when you turned thirty, you
had goals beforehand, like you were really really focused on,
and it wasn't physical health. It was also like you
(25:22):
were in your mental health, like you were into you
wanted to be around good friends, like you were really
big on that. Because we had moved and we had
been what five years maybe in Detroit at the time,
I think six, okay, So it was kind of like
I threw a party for you that you didn't know about.
But I remember you knew that one person was coming
out for your thirtieth, which I remember how excited you
(25:44):
were because Xenia was a longtime friend and also somebody
that you'd almost never expect to come out because she
wasn't like she visited a ton and actually since hasn't
really visited. But it was something about it that made
me think. I was thinking about this the other day
when we were recording the last podcast, and I was thinking,
(26:06):
there's a little bit of a similarity, and I think
you might get pregnant.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
I will not. It's funny though, I got pregnant thirty
I did. I got pregnant that summer. So you had
the party that summer. I got pregnant. And then so
on my thirtieth birthday, I was pregnant with Luke. Yeah,
I was. I was. That was crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
So in twenty years you had a new baby, you
started a new business. You have helped countless people, like literally,
you have a million and one friends that call you
for advice all the time and help them. You sent
off three kids to college and you're still married to me.
(26:55):
Yeah yeah, Where will you be at sixty?
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Probably single? Living the life all the time. Say what
all the time?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Being single about?
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I don't say it all the time. I think you
say it quite frequently, but when the microphones are not
all right, So.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Let's do this, then, five for fifty. I want you
to think of five things that five things that are
kind of goals of yours now that you are turning fifty,
like you know you you are, you are focused on
taking care of yourself in a lot of more ways.
Than just your physical but what because this would be
(27:36):
a good thing even for anybody who's listening to this
to think about with every birthday that comes up, setting goals.
You know, He's just a boot camp. And one of
the things that one of the morning guys, actually John Jay,
told me, was that he writes down his goals and
he puts him in his wallet and every morning and
when he wakes up as he's you know, getting ready,
(27:57):
he actually looks at his goals and like one of
his goal, as I thought was really good, was he
wanted new management at the radio station. Oh wow, which
I thought was kind of cool. But what would be
five goals that you would want?
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I mean five is a lot to be fair, because
I don't.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
See if you don't if you only have two or
three or one, who knows.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
So I think I'm on this wellness journey that I'm
not you know, complete, and so I'm not completed it yet.
So one of it. One of my goals is to
really physically and mentally feel you know, you look in
the mirror and you don't realize. My dad said that,
my grandma always said this. I feel a certain age,
(28:37):
but I look in the mirror and I have no
idea who's looking back at me? And I never understood it.
I kind of get it, you know, I because you
I feel like I look differently than when I take
a photo. I'm like, oh my god, I look really
old in that picture. That's not that is the worst picture.
But so I want to I want to. So one
(28:59):
goal would be I want to feel how I think
I should feel, if that makes sense. So I have
like a couple of you know, things I have to
work on still with my wellness that you were talking about, Well,
that is that's inflammation because that went away in London.
That was you know, that's our food here. What can
(29:21):
you do about our food? But it's you know, hormone
like getting those completely optimized. I'm not completely optimized and everything.
So it's just working trying to figure all this out
and learning about it. I'm really passionate about it and
I love talking to other people about it. So maybe
(29:41):
another goal would be maybe going into something that could
help people with that. You know, I don't know what
that looks like, but I would love to. With all
the knowledge that I've been learning over the past couple
of years, I'd love to and I you know, I
talked to some listeners. One thing was I had breast implants.
(30:03):
I had them taken out, and I'm a firm, firm
believer in doing that. That was one of the dominoes
when I had them put in that just started taking
me out physically. Was having those a foreign substance in
my body. So you know, maybe doing something with on that.
(30:28):
I would really love to be able to spend some
more time in Chicago. I've said that before and I
didn't do it last year. And I think that that's
you know, as explain that well, because Jacob lives in Chicago, and.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I spend more time with Jacob. Yeah, not even just Chicago, right.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Why I didn't want to freak him out when because
when he's listening to this, but you know, maybe and
he's starting his new internship is in today as he's
listening to this is his birthday, and I hope it
went really well. We're so proud of you. But I
would really you know, if it's not too much for him,
(31:08):
I would really love like where we say, Okay, I'm
going to come out, or even if it got to
the point where he was like, hey, can you come out?
And the answer is always yes. So I would really
love to do that. And then it's hard with Michigan
State because he's so off doing his own thing. But
(31:32):
I'd love this school year to have some more dedicated
time with Luke too, even though I know that that's hard,
but I guess just you know, more dedicated time. Joe
is so easy if I call and say, hey, what
do you you know, do you want me to come out?
And yesterday? I want to do here yesterday, So he's
he's you know, he wants me there all the time.
(31:54):
But it's the other two not that they don't want
me there, but I know that they have busy lives
and I just want to spend After London, we had
so much fun, at least I did, and I want
to be with them more.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
You know, do you want to spend more time with
them or are you hoping that they want they want
you to spend more time with them.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Oh, I would hope that they Yeah, that they would
want it, but and I guess, you know, it's not
that it's quantity, but it's quality. Like you know, one
thing Jacob and I talked about is I want to
go out there and we want to go to this
one place six that we could not get to see
in London, and it would just you know, so you
(32:37):
have a goal of wanting to do that. The problem
is life gets in the way, and you know, we
have this coming up in this and this and this,
and so you know, I think it's really important that
I just make a point to saying, hey, during this time,
pick a weekend and let me know and let me
know if you're free, and I'd love to come out.
(32:59):
So yeah, in time with the kids. What else is
another goal? I mean, getting organized more because I'm really
bad at that. I used to be so good at
that and I'm not anymore. I need to get organized.
(33:20):
Pretty boring what you're looking at me?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Like, No, I just I'll spend more time with you.
But oh but here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Though, Yeah we do, but I don't feel that that's
a goal of mine because we are, like I think
we've really made it a point. Well I'm is it rude?
I mean, I'm just being truthful and honest. As the
kids have gotten as the kids have left the house, I.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Mean, we're going to have each other for a long time.
It's those kids that are going to be starting and.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
It's to me, it's not it's not a goal because
we do it. Yeah, I mean we literally live together
and see each other every day. I mean I think
it's it's not like we're not eating dinners together and
not spending time together.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
So sorry if that hurt your feelings that you're not a.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Goal, but I swear to God it didn't know.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
You are my present, like it's not you.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Know, or I would like to tell you if you can,
am I good? Do you have me more? You have more?
I've got five things, five for your fifty that I'm
going to tell you that I'm very excited about for you.
Number First off, I've known you since you were seventeen.
Number one, never in a million years thought that you
would be the wife that you are. I thought you'd
(34:34):
be a little bit better. No, I never thought that. Honestly,
I go to you know, all the times that I've
gone through anything, You've always been there for me, so
first and foremost even probably then wife, you're a great friend,
so you're amazing, and then you're also a great wife.
So maybe that's number two. Okay, could never in a
(34:56):
million years have ever predicted that you would be the
mother to our children, like you are really blown away,
like you're no your Your mom and I have this conversation.
We actually talked. Uh, we've been talking a lot recently,
(35:17):
your mom and dad and I because your birthday's coming up,
and I was talking to your mom about like what
kind of a mom you are and you come from
an amazing mother. But she says it, you know, she's
wowed by what kind of mom you are. I'm even
more wowed, and I see it every single day. Just
(35:39):
blows me away. I mean I see you at your worst,
like where you're fucking screaming at them, like yeah, and
I'm having I feel like I'm you know, having to
everything's okay, whatever, But I also see you every day
more so at your best, and your worst actually is
your best because your meaning as well with them, you're
(36:02):
an amazing person, Like you are literally an amazing person.
You have done so much for people that literally I
don't even know who the fuck they are. Reminds me
a lot of my mom. I know, we talk about
my mom, but it was very similar, like where my
mom would do things and we'd be like, who the
fuck is this person? Your parents are both like that
(36:27):
like we've spent countless Thanksgivings.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
With holidays with strangers, a lot of.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Very interesting people. It's like it's like it's like I
don't know everybody that went to the UH to the
Birth of Jesus, Like where are all these people come from?
And then as far as you as a like both
looks and stuff wise, I always, I always, you know,
(36:53):
joked when I first met you at Oh yeah, I remember,
I'm one of my things. I poked fun at was
like you're oh, look at you. You're like the cute
girl or whatever the deal is. And I kind of like,
poked fun, You're still that girl, Like it's pretty wild,
Like I mean, you're an unbelievably beautiful woman. But I
still look at you every single day and I see
the same person. Oh thank you, so thank god that
(37:17):
you're that way, because if you would have had a
horrible fire in an accident and not look that same.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Way, I mean, it would still be the same person.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I'd have to lie about it on the podcast. But no,
So that's that's all I have to say. Well, thank
you and happy almost. I won't say the word because
you're not.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
I will say this though, what you can say is oh,
you got more to say? I will say this. I
take the compliments, you know, and thank you for all
of that. I am the mother that I am because
I've been given the space to do that by you,
So I will that's the only thing. I'm gonna give you.
(37:54):
Props For the rest, I'll take it from myselba I have.
It's my most rewarding accomplishment. I will give you some
of the credit because you have afforded me a space
to be a stay at home mom, and you have
(38:16):
supported a lot of things that I've done with them
so well.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
My hope is that I worked the first thirty years
of our marriage, you'll work the last thirty.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
No, I'm not no.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
By the way, to our listeners, I hope you got
something out of this. If you didn't, I got something,
and it was able to spend time with Chelsea and
to our sons whose mom basically said, you know, she
would like to spend time with you. I promise I
won't come with the end.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
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