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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The plans are underway for the passing of Pope Francis
and the funeral, and then obviously they'll go into conclave
and choose a new Pope. Donald Trump recalling President or
I mean, Pope Francis.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
He's a very good man who loved, loved the world,
and he especially loved people that were having a hard time.
And that's good with me.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Joining us now for a little bit more on this.
Jonathan Savage, our Fox correspondent in London, as the reactions
continue to pour in from around the world, Jonathan, welcome, come.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
On in Hi there to speak to you again.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, so here we are. We're getting the plans underway.
And I mean, what an impact he had, and he
was certainly progressive in a lot of ways. It drew
some controversy as well. Never changed any actual I guess,
policies if you will. Inside the Catholic Church. He brought
them up and raised eyebrows on both sides of the
progressive and conservative sides of the fence. But once again,
(00:51):
even though those discussions that came out of his PayPal
reign did not come to fruition and change anything. So
with Dad, said the bishops, I guess the cardinals rather
coming in from around the globe for the conclave. So
let's talk about some of the reactions from folks around
the globe and how Europe's responding.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yes, obviously, when a pope dies, it's a monumental moment
for the Catholic Church and the one point four billion
people who form its congregation, and thoughts of course turned
to what and who is next. But in the meantime,
with the Pope's death so recent, the response is continued
to pour in. You heard there, obviously from President Trump,
(01:34):
who disagreed I think fundamentally with Pope Francis on a
number of issues, including immigration. The clashed on that, but
you can tell there was a mutual respect there, I
think to a certain extent. Also Georgia Maloney, the Italian
Prime Minister, wouldn't have agreed with Porte Francis on many things,
but she called him a great man and a great shepherd.
Coming to the funeral on Saturday will be the Argentinian
(01:57):
President Pope Francis. Of course from Argentine Haavia Malay mentioned
the Yes, they had differences. He says there were differences
seem minor in the aftermath of Fort Francis's death, and
he said, having been able to know him in his
goodness and wisdom was a true honor.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah. And the way he lived his life too, I
thought was full of humility, and he was a humble man.
He did not want to stay in the big suite
at the Vatican. He actually I stayed made his home
rather where the other facility there at the Vatican was
built by Pope John Paul. And he said, you know,
I traveled in public, you know transportation. I didn't have
limousines everywhere I went. And so he lived a common life.
(02:37):
And one of the things he did to as well
as wash feet those people in prisons and juvenile detention
centers as well. So let's talk about what's ahead for
this week. He'll lie in stay correct at Saint Peter's Basilica.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yes, that's going to happen tomorrow where his body will
be moved to the basilica, and that will of course
give thousands of people the opportunity to file past his
call food and play pay respects at a very close,
close proximity to Pope Francis. That's obviously an important part
of the funeral procedures for many many people, and there
(03:13):
will be thousands or thousands flocking to the Vatican City
over the next few days ahead of Saturday morning's funeral
ten am local time, very early hours of the morning
obviously in the United States. But I don't think that's
going to stop at too many people from staying up
or getting up early to watch it and taking part
in that. You know.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
He also left specific instructions for his tomb, specifying that
the tomb must be in the earth, simple, without particular decoration,
and with the only inscription Franciscos. So very simple man.
He lived his life that way and it was quite
an example, and his Christ led a simple life as well.
Was not about high pomp and stance. As they get
ready for the conclave, and I mentioned the cardinals are
(03:55):
coming in from around the globe, a lot of these
people did not the cardinals get into politics at all.
They were too busy taking care of the poor and
the sick, of those that were downtrodden. So when they
get together like this, does politics get into the to
the discussions with the.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Cardinals, I think it's hard to escape because what the
cardinals will have to do is decide not just who
is going to be pope, but the direction they want
the church to go in. Do they want a pope
who will continue the progressive as some have called it,
direction that Pope Francis took the church, or do they
want to return to more traditional Catholic doctrines. And it's
(04:36):
worth saying that there will be one hundred and thirty
five cardinal electors that comprises of the cardinals who are
under eighty years of age. Now all of the one
hundred and thirty five, one hundred and eight were appointed
by Francis himself, twenty two by his predecessor, Pope Benedict,
and five all the way back by Pope John Paul.
Now will that make a difference, We wait and see.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
It's not necessarily meaning that as many cardinals that were
appointed by Pope Francis will continue his beliefs in running
the church and directing the church. In fact, it may
end up being quite the opposite. A lot of popes,
a lot of people, rather discussing the next pope, have said,
I wish and hope and pray that the church goes
back to in the pope directs into scriptural teaching, teach
(05:21):
the Bible period and leave everything politically out of this.
We shall see as the Conclave will meet, and we
look for the white smoke. When they first let the
black smoke go, that means they've had a vote and
they don't have a new pope. But when the white
smoke comes up, that means they do have a new pope.
The Conclave is going to successfully get a successor, and
(05:42):
we'll start in May sixth and run through May twelfth.
Jonathan Savage, thank you, buddy. I appreciate you being here
with me this morning.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Thank you
The plans are underway for the passing of Pope Francis
and the funeral, and then obviously they'll go into conclave
and choose a new Pope. Donald Trump recalling President or
I mean, Pope Francis.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
He's a very good man who loved, loved the world,
and he especially loved people that were having a hard time.
And that's good with me.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Joining us now for a little bit more on this.
Jonathan Savage, our Fox correspondent in London, as the reactions
continue to pour in from around the world, Jonathan, welcome, come.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
On in Hi there to speak to you again.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, so here we are. We're getting the plans underway.
And I mean, what an impact he had, and he
was certainly progressive in a lot of ways. It drew
some controversy as well. Never changed any actual I guess,
policies if you will. Inside the Catholic Church. He brought
them up and raised eyebrows on both sides of the
progressive and conservative sides of the fence. But once again,
(00:51):
even though those discussions that came out of his PayPal
reign did not come to fruition and change anything. So
with Dad, said the bishops, I guess the cardinals rather
coming in from around the globe for the conclave. So
let's talk about some of the reactions from folks around
the globe and how Europe's responding.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yes, obviously, when a pope dies, it's a monumental moment
for the Catholic Church and the one point four billion
people who form its congregation, and thoughts of course turned
to what and who is next. But in the meantime,
with the Pope's death so recent, the response is continued
to pour in. You heard there, obviously from President Trump,
(01:34):
who disagreed I think fundamentally with Pope Francis on a
number of issues, including immigration. The clashed on that, but
you can tell there was a mutual respect there, I
think to a certain extent. Also Georgia Maloney, the Italian
Prime Minister, wouldn't have agreed with Porte Francis on many things,
but she called him a great man and a great shepherd.
Coming to the funeral on Saturday will be the Argentinian
(01:57):
President Pope Francis. Of course from Argentine Haavia Malay mentioned
the Yes, they had differences. He says there were differences
seem minor in the aftermath of Fort Francis's death, and
he said, having been able to know him in his
goodness and wisdom was a true honor.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah. And the way he lived his life too, I
thought was full of humility, and he was a humble man.
He did not want to stay in the big suite
at the Vatican. He actually I stayed made his home
rather where the other facility there at the Vatican was
built by Pope John Paul. And he said, you know,
I traveled in public, you know transportation. I didn't have
limousines everywhere I went. And so he lived a common life.
(02:37):
And one of the things he did to as well
as wash feet those people in prisons and juvenile detention
centers as well. So let's talk about what's ahead for
this week. He'll lie in stay correct at Saint Peter's Basilica.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yes, that's going to happen tomorrow where his body will
be moved to the basilica, and that will of course
give thousands of people the opportunity to file past his
call food and play pay respects at a very close,
close proximity to Pope Francis. That's obviously an important part
of the funeral procedures for many many people, and there
(03:13):
will be thousands or thousands flocking to the Vatican City
over the next few days ahead of Saturday morning's funeral
ten am local time, very early hours of the morning
obviously in the United States. But I don't think that's
going to stop at too many people from staying up
or getting up early to watch it and taking part
in that. You know.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
He also left specific instructions for his tomb, specifying that
the tomb must be in the earth, simple, without particular decoration,
and with the only inscription Franciscos. So very simple man.
He lived his life that way and it was quite
an example, and his Christ led a simple life as well.
Was not about high pomp and stance. As they get
ready for the conclave, and I mentioned the cardinals are
(03:55):
coming in from around the globe, a lot of these
people did not the cardinals get into politics at all.
They were too busy taking care of the poor and
the sick, of those that were downtrodden. So when they
get together like this, does politics get into the to
the discussions with the.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Cardinals, I think it's hard to escape because what the
cardinals will have to do is decide not just who
is going to be pope, but the direction they want
the church to go in. Do they want a pope
who will continue the progressive as some have called it,
direction that Pope Francis took the church, or do they
want to return to more traditional Catholic doctrines. And it's
(04:36):
worth saying that there will be one hundred and thirty
five cardinal electors that comprises of the cardinals who are
under eighty years of age. Now all of the one
hundred and thirty five, one hundred and eight were appointed
by Francis himself, twenty two by his predecessor, Pope Benedict,
and five all the way back by Pope John Paul.
Now will that make a difference, We wait and see.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
It's not necessarily meaning that as many cardinals that were
appointed by Pope Francis will continue his beliefs in running
the church and directing the church. In fact, it may
end up being quite the opposite. A lot of popes,
a lot of people, rather discussing the next pope, have said,
I wish and hope and pray that the church goes
back to in the pope directs into scriptural teaching, teach
(05:21):
the Bible period and leave everything politically out of this.
We shall see as the Conclave will meet, and we
look for the white smoke. When they first let the
black smoke go, that means they've had a vote and
they don't have a new pope. But when the white
smoke comes up, that means they do have a new pope.
The Conclave is going to successfully get a successor, and
(05:42):
we'll start in May sixth and run through May twelfth.
Jonathan Savage, thank you, buddy. I appreciate you being here
with me this morning.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Thank you
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