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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Alabama's Morning News. I'm JT. Stephen Wilford joins us now
the national spokesman for gun Owners of America. Stephen, welcome
back in glad to have you this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Oh, glad to be back. Only I just wish it
was an underset circumstances.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I mean, I saw this yesterday afternoon. I'm thinking, geez,
not again, what are we doing here? And then I
find out this kid, I say kid, he's twenty years old,
was the son of a I guess county deputy down there,
sheriff's deputy, and got access to you know, the guns
that mom has and jumped out and you know, pulls
a shotgun of jams up, he pulls a pistol, kills
(00:37):
two people. Cops tell him to drop the weapon. He doesn't.
He gets shot by the cops. He's alive, should survive
this whole thing. And others are injured as well in
this matter. And I think President Trump said it best. Look,
I support the Second Amendment. Guns don't shoot themselves. You
know it's people that do this. But you know your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
And all of this.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I mean, why these gun free the zones have become
such soft targets, right.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Well, exactly, in Texas we have campus carry, which a
student Mike could have stopped him. And on top of
the campus carry, Florida has a bill saying that eighteen
to twenty year olds can't buy a gun at all. Okay,
(01:24):
how well did that work out? The guy was twenty?
How well did that work out? Because criminals ignored that?
And the average age of a college student is eighteen
to twenty two years old. And if my daughter or
my son were going to that college, I would want
them to have the ability to carry on campus, to
(01:47):
own their own gun, and to be able to defend themselves.
This one. A lot of information is not out yet
on it, and that I have privileged too, And it's
much worse than want the public's being told at this point.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
You know, it's it's always I say, you know, better
to have the gun and not need it as opposed
to needing it and not having it. So if you're
going to, you know, try and fight these types of
things that seem to be happening more and more these days,
and society is in its whole point of you know,
let's just go ahead, and you know I'm going to
overreact and pull out a gun. You know, if everybody
(02:27):
that thought that way had wanted to express rage and
had a gun, and if they knew I better or not,
because you know, there's a different attitude in this town
about gun. There could be gun owners surrounding me and
I don't even know it, but you know, bring some
training with those legislative changes and allowing people to carry
on campus and you know, okay, fine, if you're going
(02:47):
to carry that gun, you've got to complete X, Y
Z training process or whatever. Do you see a push
in this direction that is opposed to saying increase the
amount of gun laws, take guns away from people, maybe
shifting and going to fine, have a gun, Second Amendment,
but in order to carry it in certain places, you've
got to be trained up well.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Now, in a school situation, maybe maybe training, But the
Second Amendment allows for you to carry in like a
eighty five year old grandmother. It's not going to be
able to go take any real.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
No no, no, I mean I meant. I meant in
areas where predominantly you know, they don't allow guns. I'm
not talking about grandma sitting in a ranch trying to
keep bad guys out of the front door. No different scenario.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So to keep in their arms is a second Amendment
and you should be able to. However, you know, if
you're going to be a teacher or a faculty and
you're going to carry inside of a school, I think
you should have training. I think you should actually train
with law enforcement so they know if they come into
(03:55):
that school, the law enforcement knows who you are. In
this case, it even blows that out of the water
because apparently the kid was part of the kid he's
twenty years old. He was part of a board for
shootings and so he would review shootings for the police department.
They knew him very well, and the police trained him.
(04:18):
And that's some of what I know that you know.
So the police actually and when they came on the scene,
they knew him, and he was a student there, and
he was carrying a gun. And it's real lucky or
blessed that they figured out real quick he was the
problem and when he wouldn't wouldn't follow orders, they shot him.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Well, I tell you know, the investigations underway, and I'm
telling you I don't know if we'll ever get the motive,
but there's going to be certainly some red flags. If
I'm a betman that this guy, you know, showed some
signs that they was potentially a problem.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
What the tough part of it was is the fact
that they were trying to overturn some of these trenical
gun laws that they enacted after Parkland, and they were
trying to overturn it that way that eighteen to twenty
year olds could own guns again in Florida, and they
(05:21):
were trying to overturn it, you know, they were trying
to push for campus carrying stuff. And now all of
that stuff is apparently taken back seat, and they don't
want to do it. They don't have the guts to
do it right now. And that's terrible because those are
the solutions, those aren't the problems. Because if my kid
(05:41):
would have been on that campus with a gun, all
three of my children were distinguished experts with a pistol
by the time they were eight years old, they could
have protected the rest of the students to put pay.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a
(06:02):
gun is a good guy with a gun.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
One hundred percent agree with you, one hundred percent. Steven
Welford
Alabama's Morning News. I'm JT. Stephen Wilford joins us now
the national spokesman for gun Owners of America. Stephen, welcome
back in glad to have you this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Oh, glad to be back. Only I just wish it
was an underset circumstances.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I mean, I saw this yesterday afternoon. I'm thinking, geez,
not again, what are we doing here? And then I
find out this kid, I say kid, he's twenty years old,
was the son of a I guess county deputy down there,
sheriff's deputy, and got access to you know, the guns
that mom has and jumped out and you know, pulls
a shotgun of jams up, he pulls a pistol, kills
(00:37):
two people. Cops tell him to drop the weapon. He doesn't.
He gets shot by the cops. He's alive, should survive
this whole thing. And others are injured as well in
this matter. And I think President Trump said it best. Look,
I support the Second Amendment. Guns don't shoot themselves. You
know it's people that do this. But you know your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
And all of this.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I mean, why these gun free the zones have become
such soft targets, right.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Well, exactly, in Texas we have campus carry, which a
student Mike could have stopped him. And on top of
the campus carry, Florida has a bill saying that eighteen
to twenty year olds can't buy a gun at all. Okay,
(01:24):
how well did that work out? The guy was twenty?
How well did that work out? Because criminals ignored that?
And the average age of a college student is eighteen
to twenty two years old. And if my daughter or
my son were going to that college, I would want
them to have the ability to carry on campus, to
(01:47):
own their own gun, and to be able to defend themselves.
This one. A lot of information is not out yet
on it, and that I have privileged too, And it's
much worse than want the public's being told at this point.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
You know, it's it's always I say, you know, better
to have the gun and not need it as opposed
to needing it and not having it. So if you're
going to, you know, try and fight these types of
things that seem to be happening more and more these days,
and society is in its whole point of you know,
let's just go ahead, and you know I'm going to
overreact and pull out a gun. You know, if everybody
(02:27):
that thought that way had wanted to express rage and
had a gun, and if they knew I better or not,
because you know, there's a different attitude in this town
about gun. There could be gun owners surrounding me and
I don't even know it, but you know, bring some
training with those legislative changes and allowing people to carry
on campus and you know, okay, fine, if you're going
(02:47):
to carry that gun, you've got to complete X, Y
Z training process or whatever. Do you see a push
in this direction that is opposed to saying increase the
amount of gun laws, take guns away from people, maybe
shifting and going to fine, have a gun, Second Amendment,
but in order to carry it in certain places, you've
got to be trained up well.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Now, in a school situation, maybe maybe training, But the
Second Amendment allows for you to carry in like a
eighty five year old grandmother. It's not going to be
able to go take any real.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
No no, no, I mean I meant. I meant in
areas where predominantly you know, they don't allow guns. I'm
not talking about grandma sitting in a ranch trying to
keep bad guys out of the front door. No different scenario.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So to keep in their arms is a second Amendment
and you should be able to. However, you know, if
you're going to be a teacher or a faculty and
you're going to carry inside of a school, I think
you should have training. I think you should actually train
with law enforcement so they know if they come into
(03:55):
that school, the law enforcement knows who you are. In
this case, it even blows that out of the water
because apparently the kid was part of the kid he's
twenty years old. He was part of a board for
shootings and so he would review shootings for the police department.
They knew him very well, and the police trained him.
(04:18):
And that's some of what I know that you know.
So the police actually and when they came on the scene,
they knew him, and he was a student there, and
he was carrying a gun. And it's real lucky or
blessed that they figured out real quick he was the
problem and when he wouldn't wouldn't follow orders, they shot him.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Well, I tell you know, the investigations underway, and I'm
telling you I don't know if we'll ever get the motive,
but there's going to be certainly some red flags. If
I'm a betman that this guy, you know, showed some
signs that they was potentially a problem.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
What the tough part of it was is the fact
that they were trying to overturn some of these trenical
gun laws that they enacted after Parkland, and they were
trying to overturn it that way that eighteen to twenty
year olds could own guns again in Florida, and they
(05:21):
were trying to overturn it, you know, they were trying
to push for campus carrying stuff. And now all of
that stuff is apparently taken back seat, and they don't
want to do it. They don't have the guts to
do it right now. And that's terrible because those are
the solutions, those aren't the problems. Because if my kid
(05:41):
would have been on that campus with a gun, all
three of my children were distinguished experts with a pistol
by the time they were eight years old, they could
have protected the rest of the students to put pay.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a
(06:02):
gun is a good guy with a gun.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
One hundred percent agree with you, one hundred percent. Steven
Welford
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