At Home with Gary Sullivan 2/18/2024 Hour 1

Gary is back on a Sunday to answer your questions and offer expert tips.

Episode Transcript

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Well, a good Sunday morning.Welcome aboard at home with Gary Salvin.
Man. It's a little chilly outthere today, no question about that.
Uh I guess we'll definitely be workinginside unless we want to maybe sweep out
the garage, right, getting thatsalt residue out of that garage. That
can be very corrossive when mixed withwater. So there's a little do it

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project already. All right, here'sour phone number you can join us.
It's five one three seven hundred allright here in fifty five K see Deep
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sponsoring this hour of that Home withGary Salvin. Well, another weekend getting

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a few things done around the home. And one of the things I kind
of stumbled upon and thought it mightbe a good idea just to spend a
little time talking about that. Wetalk a lot about decks, We talked
a lot about water intrusion and crossspaces and leaky basements, and you know,
a lot of that stuff. Buttoday I kind of like to focus
a little bit on wood rot.You know, wood rot is obviously caused

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by water, which is obviously thenumber one enemy of your home. I
say it all the time, andwater can enter your home all different kinds
of places. And one of thethings there are places to look for wood
rot I have found is around yourentry system to your home, your front

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door, and obviously the molding,the framing of the entry system, maybe
the last eight inches of that.You can tell pretty quickly if you're on
the outside or even on the insidequite honestly, down at the base,
whether the paint is peeling or maybeit's just checking getting cracks vertical cracks in

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the paint. That's usually a signthat something's going on there. And if
you take a little screwdriver or pocketknife and press in through that paint,
I think it's pretty likely you're goingto find that the wood is relatively soft
there and that that wood is rotting. But an area I think that's missed

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a lot is the actual door itself. And for some reason, it's always
seems to be the inside or theedge of the door facing the side with
the hinges. Okay, not thelockside, the hinge side. And if

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you take a look at that dooragain, maybe that last ten or twelve
inches always seems to be very vulnerable. Sometimes the water just the way it
gets down through the jam. That'swhy the frame and the jam and the
molding's rot the door. I don'tknow whether water gets trapped in there.

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Maybe it's just a door that hasa southwest facing. When you get a
good storm, it can work itsway in there. But just check that
periodically and again, just a softpiece of wood is just a sign of
some damage, some water issues.And then of course, you know find
in those areas of problems doesn't deeany good unless you execute a plan to

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fix the problem and eliminate the Thoseare two different things. You have to
number one, figure out what's goingon, and there's been damage, and
we're gonna want to fix that,But we got to kind of figure out
what's going on. Why is thisa problem? Is that door? Are
those hinges loose? And that doorsjust tilted forward a little bit and it's

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not you know, square, it'snot closing tightly and water's getting there.
Once we discover that, and wecan correct that tightening the screws and the
hinges, maybe even building the hingeout from the bottom. And the way
you would do that is take threescrews off the jam, taking sometimes a

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penny and put it behind that hingewhich pulls it out a little bit,
and tighten up the screws. SometimesI'll do that sometimes the screw hole where
the screw screwing into a stript alittle bit, and the way to that
door is just pulling it out alittle bit. And again we can fix
that. You can take a coupleof toothpicks some wood glue and insert them

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into the hole. That's one wayyou could cut off. You take a
golf tee which is tapered and tapit in with a hammer with a little
wood glue, and then take ablade of saw blade and just cut that
off surface with the jam, thena little pilot hole and then run the
screw and there there's easy ways tofix it. There's even a little item

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you can get the hardware store,so a little piece of it's thicker than
foil. It's almost like a verylight piece of sheet metal with teeth on
it. This thing's not even ahalf inch wide, and maybe it's two
inches long. You just fold itin half, insert it into the hole
and just run the screw and doeswork real well too. But tightening up

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that may very well do it.And then to remove the wood rot is
not that difficult. I mean youand just scrape it away in some cases,
and sometimes you can again get apocket knife or something that chiselm just
kind of dig that wood rot outand make a patch. And there's different

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kinds of patches out there, andthere's wood patches and wood fillers are kind
of two different things. When youget to the hardware store, you'll find
all kinds of you'll find epoxies,you'll find acrylics. And the one that
I have found is almost a system. It takes two products, so it's
gonna be a little bit more expensive. It's made by a company called Abatron,

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and one is called liquid wood.Now, after you scrape all that
wood out of that exposed area,the problem area. You can take the
liquid wood and just with a youknow, maybe a half inch paintbrush,

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dip it in there and base thatair where you've scraped all the rotted wood
out. And it's a liquid itsoaks into the wood fibers and then it
really hardens that wood because there'll stillbe some soft wood left. So when
it hardens that wood, it's reallybuilding you a good patchable base. You're

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not patching something onto a flimsy substrate, so you scrape it out. You
do the liquid wood, and thencome back with a product called wood epos
and it's an epoxy based wood.It's a different kind of wood patch.
Then you'll probably find in other productsthis can be. Not that you're going

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to need it, but this canbe. You can create a wood patch
the size of a basketball with this. Most of them are the size of
a golf ball, so it's moreversatile. And now you got that good
bass. You got a good wood, a pot rolled into a ball,
stuff it into the hole the crevicethat you've kind of cleaned out, and

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then you could take a putty knife, you could take a pocket knife.
You could take a trial and justsmooth that surface off and let it dry
and it usually is a twenty fourhour period and that is standable, stainable,
paintable. You can run screws intoit, so it functions just like

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wood. It's a very handy product. And whether it's that front door area,
the door itself, the jam,whether it's out in the shed and
you gotta you know, some studsdown at the base that are rotted.
You can make those patches using thosetwo products fairly successfully. That original product

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was done and used a lot ofhistoric homes where they have those big columns,
and even down at the base whereagain that base where it sits on
a concrete it's a problem area pullsup water, water puddles around it.
On those door jams, I seepeople they're always off the concrete by maybe
three aces of an inch, andpeople calk that closed. And that's a

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problem because it's kind of your drain. In other words, if you have
this trim and this jam, andyou have it trimmed out and at the
top there's a crevice and it's notcocked, water can run down in near
filter all the way down and flushout at the base. Unless you've calked
it. And if you've calked it, you've created a reservoir. And that

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reservoir of water is just gonna sitin there. It's going to be absorbed
by the backside of that wood insome cases, which of course has never
bainted. It's absorbed and it beginsto rod. And that's the problem kind
of cause your own problem that thecalking goes up top doesn't necessarily go down
at the bottom. All right,let me give you the phone number you

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can grab a line. Love totalk to you about your home projects as
we work our way through another weekend. It's one eight hundred, eight hundred
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with Gary Salva and chatting a littlebit about rotted wood around your homes.
And of course those areas are usuallywhere there is water intrusion. We were
talking about the entry system or doorsystem to your home front or back.
Also finding a lot around windows,especially if you have wood windows, and
if you don't have wood windows,you might have wood sills, which can

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also be a problem when it comesto wood rot. But I want to
circle back a little bit because Iwas talking about how to patch rotted wood,
you know, and get the oldstuff out, hardened the base where
the rotted wood was scraped out,and then making the patch. And now
I was talking about how the jamis raised, usually a little bit off

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the concrete in case water gets meheineric can flush out. And I was
saying that the problem is usually abovethe door, and I said that's where
the cock goes. The cock doesn'tgo down at the bottom because if you
cock the bottom, it holds thewater into that jam area. So what

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I'm talking about there is if youhave a brick house in some cases mortar's
missing or brick is cracked, thatwater can get behind the brick and where
it shows up, well, itdepends on a lot of things. It
depends if it has wheepoles at thebottom, Could it hold that water?

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Could it not go behind the brickwall? Could just go in front of
the brick wall and then get intothat seam at the top where the moldings
are. That's probably more likely thecase. And that's where I was talking
about marking or calcking that and Isaid, put a bit of cock in
here, But I didn't really talkabout the type of cocks because you know

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as well as I do, whenyou get to the hardware store and you
see twenty four feet of calocking,you can sometimes get a little confused of
exactly what you're supposed to use.You can use all kinds of calking,
but they all have their pros andcons. From a price standpoint, the
least expensive, good quality cocking thatyou could use would be an acrylic siliconized

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colcking. It has the benefits ofsilicone that it does remain somewhat flexible.
It's got decent adhesion. It's gotthe benefits of acrylic, meaning it's paintable.
But when you have two different typesof substrates I'm talking about wood going

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against brick or aluminum against wood,those different substrates, they expand and they
contract and they move like everything inour home, but they move at different
rates and so it's not consistent,usually based on weather and temperature. But

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that does a good job. Canyou do better? Sure? Sure you
can use Oh by the way,that acrylic, silk and ized cocking is
also very easy to apply. Soif you're somebody that might use a cocking
gun once or twice a year,that might be the product you want to
go with, just because it's easyto run a bead of calking. It's

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even pressure with movement, but it'snot real sticky, real gummy. It's
fairly easy to run a bead ofcalking, So that might be your cacking.
But if you're really looking for somethingmore long term with better adhesion,
the first one first cocking. Alot of you are thinking right now when
I said it it's all silicone,Well yeah you can. Silicone has got

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great adhesion, great flexibility, doesn'tget brittle doesn't crack, it is difficult
to apply. It's a thicker colckingthan the acrylic silicon ice cocking. Uh,
So I would recommend practicing with that, especially if it's in a noticeable
area. How do you practice getyour cocking too, Get your cocking gun,

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Get a big old cardboard box,make a ninety degree angle and practice
getting a smooth, smooth beat inthere. Maybe you practice with an expensive
cock first and then try a littledab or two of the silicon and then
have at it. The problem withthe silicone, though, is it's not
painable. Now you can get aclear silicon, maybe that's what you'd want

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to do, but a lot ofpeople don't realize silicon. They do make
a paintable silicone, it's scarce.Most silicones are just not paintable. So
if you were going to try tomatch that trim work, you're going to
be disappointed because it's not to beable to be done. So it takes
me to my third cocking, whichis probably the best you could use with

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mixed substrates to fill in a gap, whether it's around a window, a
door, or really around anything onthe exterior of your home. And that
is a euthane. Now your thane. There's a brand called Lexol which makes
a crystal clear which is awesome.There's also one called Quad which comes in

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different colors, and then there's justyour quad. You know, normal white
euthane calking that can be painted.Now your thane has the best adhesion,
the best flexibility, and it's aboutthe same range of a silicon in terms

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of application. Not the easiest toapply, but you might just want to
practice with it first before you useit. But Quad would be the perfect
cock in that area, especially ifyou have mixed substrates. So, uh
yeah, let's get those things sealedup. But remember that clucking doesn't go
at the base, goes at thetop. Your calls will me next.

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about your project and Dave Welcome,Good morning, Gary morning. I'm read

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that cole Mix's asphalt is a temporarypatching macare can be. I saw one
on the bag and Friday at abig box it said it was a permanent
patch. Have you ever heard ofsuch animal? Well, I think it's
all marketing, Dave, to behonest with you, because quite honestly,

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there's really no permanent patch. Whatdo you know in life that's permanent?
So yeah, so, and that'sthe truth. Even all the patching compounds
that I talk about for concrete,I mean, there's varying degrees of life
spans. And we're of course subjectto the concrete. Were subject to the

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way the concrete was put in.We're subject to the base under the concrete,
We're subject to what the earth isdoing underneath the base. But some,
certainly, as I was talking andexplaining your thing, caking, as
I was talking, has the bestadhesion, has the best flexibility, it's
paintable. They all have features.So what are you trying to patch?

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Is it on a concrete driveway orasphalt driveway or what do you got?
No, No, it's going tobe the original. And what I'm doing
is I'm putting down I'm using angleiron as water. The birds the water
across my driveway because of the erosion, and I was going to embed the

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angle iron in the lower portion ofthe asphalt patch across the driveway, you
know, okay, about nine seedsof it, and that's to keep it
the water from eroding underneath the angleiron. Sure, And are you sloping
that to one side or the otheror how's that? Yes, sir,
okay, it's going to be ona steep ridge. I said, it's

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across the ridge. Well, that'sa unique kind of idea. It's a
unique problem. So yeah, Ithink it is. It's really restoring the
old natural waterflow before for the drivewaywas right right. And I think the
way you're talking using a cold patchand packing that in around that iron man,

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I think, uh, I surelygive that a try. I'm trying
to, quite honestly, I'm tryingto think of what would do better.
I can't think of anything better.I've been racking my brain on that.
Well, the one thing that Ithought of, but it costs you.
It wouldn't be worth it. Itcosts you too much money. Would be
almost like an epoxy. You've seenthe epoxy that comes in tubes. I'm

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not talking about the liquid. It'salmost like a clay where you mix the
resin and the hardener and you couldmake almost like a roping to the width
of that crevice and pack that inthen put the iron in there. That
might do a little better, butit wouldn't. It would be expensive to
do it that way. So yeah, way cold passion. I heard Friday

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as a guy said, if youcan catch a paving crew just before they
quit business and just pour that inthere, yeah, they supposedly they they
have to dump that residue and thenyou can get a couple of five gallon
buckets full. If it's still warm. Yeah, don't put that down and
tamp it and use that in lieuof it. But I haven't seen any

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paving crews in years. Well yeah, well paving crews aren't going to be
out yet anyway. For the mostpart, you get a nice warm day,
you get a pothole crew, youknow, something along those lines.
But you know, one of thethings you might do is just call some
asphalt ceiling companies, uh, youknow, they don't have to be road

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repair or anything like that, andtell them what you're doing and is there
you know, can you just youknow, even if you had to buy
it and they were in your area, is that a possibility? Anually?
I live in the middle of nowherein southwest Georgia everywhere. Okay, well

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we'll scratch that off the list.Then, yeah, I just try and
use a cold patch then I thinkthat's probably you know, the worst that's
going to happen is that that metalwould eventually the expansion contraction, since we
have two different substrates, would breaksome of the cold patch off. It

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would start heaving, and you know, maybe you'd have to pull that metal
piece out and dig that out.But I don't think it's going to happen
overnight. I think it would giveyou, you know, five years or
something like that. At least Iwas hoping all it's doing is prevent at
least you can move real hard,so that that's that's a fairly good substrate.

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Yeah, oh yeah, yeah,yeah. It all depends where you
live in the country, depends onyou know, how that base goes too.
I get asked all the time,what are any gutters on my house?
I said, well, you do, if you don't, if you
have if you have clay, andyou don't know if you have sand.
That's the little rule of thumb.So I appreciate the call. Okay,

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thank you sir, All right,take care bye bye. All right,
it's eight hundred eight two three eighttwo five five grab line Carl. Welcome
morning, Gary, morning. Ihave I can't remember names that it is
a trecks like deck and it's abouttwelve years old, and I'm starting to

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get puddling on it because the cracksor the spaces between the boards have either
swoorn together or gotten filled up withdirt and grime. I do not know.

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But the covered portions of the deckare still just like they were.
The gaps, are there any waterthat forces in, goes through and it
goes away. But the puddeling onthe deck is concerning. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, it's expanded, would bemy guest. Now, certainly there
could be dirt and debris, andthe reason it's showing up outside of the
covered areas is the direct sun moreheat. It's interesting that when you're doing
a deck or building a deck,if you using pressure tree wood installation is

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one way. Using composites it's anotherway because remember woods, composites are plastic
and wood and they expand. Sowhen you're doing a press treated deck,
you're trying to get those boards astight together as you possibly can. When
you're installing them. And when you'redoing a composite deck, you know you're

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taking like a number ten finishing nowand using that as a space, or
even a number twelve finishing now andusing that as a spacer, because it
will expand and in the shaded area, it's just not in that direct heat
and it's not as expanding as bad. So, how how do you get

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those spaces back to the way theywere? Yeah, well, I think
the first thing I would do isI would make sure what I just told
you is accurate. And I meanthey expand, but it could be a
dirt issue to taking a long I'msure. I'm sure it is expansion.
Yeah, correct, Okay, wellis it on that composite would is it

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a pure composite or is it acapped composite eight years ago? I'm guessing
it's a pure composite. Wow,you're over my head there. I wish
I was more intelligent. I hadthe deck put in by a professional and
he did use spacers. Yeah,and now with the expansion, especially like

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you said, in the sunny areasand the areas that get a lot of
rain, that's where the puddling isoccurring. Well, here's what I would
do. I mean, are yougoing to do this yourself? Or are
you're going to call him back andsee what he because I'm sure they run
into this occasionally, and I've seendifferent people do different things, And one

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of the things I've seen him dois actually take like a five and a
half inch circular salt blade with avery thin blade and literally run it down
those lines. Well, that wouldbe have to be someone more talented than
I am at my age. Soknee work is not comfortable. I'm right

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there with you. I'm right therewith you. So I guess what I
was going to say is and maybethere's a better answer on that, but
I would just call him and askhim if you know he did the deck,
we're not fouling him. You knowwe've got it where it's expanded and

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it's it's puddling, and have theydo you have a corrective solution for that?
And he probably will or if hedoesn't, suggest what we just talked
about, because I have seen thatused, Okay, I I I will

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now is there a sailor after thatis done? Is there some type of
seiler to put on that composite deckwhich would help it from this happening again
or is it just part of theprocess with expanding. Both those questions have

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an answer of yes. So thereare sealers, but and they do help
to a degree, but they're notnecessary, so I think, you know,
unless they're really tired looking. That'sone of the nice things about composites
is they shouldn't need sealers, butthey do make them because there's been different

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generations of those composites that had issues. So I know there's there's several valspar
I think makes a composite deck sealer, and they're they're there several out there,
but I think I think I wouldconsult with him and see if he
can open those up for you.If you can't mention a you know,

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a thin blade with a small curveand see if he can just run that
five and a half inch a soliddown nose and see if that's going to
help you out. Okay. Theother thing that I have on the deck
is the staining. It's almost likea mold or a fungus that developed about

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two years into the deck being in. Okay, well, that we can
take care of, so that wecan take care of again, there's still
wood fiber in there. So there'sstill a food source and it's outdoor,
so you can do a couple ofthings. You can use a deck cleaner,
which is a oxalic or non exalicoxygenated bleach. It's a powder,

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it's mixed with water. It issprayed onto the deck. You allow it
to sit for ten minutes and thenscrub in rents. That's one way.
The other way is there's a productcalled Wet and Forget. Wet and Forget
is a concentrate. You put itin a tank sprayer and add water and

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spray it on and spray it ontothe deck. But you gotta wait like
five or six weeks. It disappears, but there is no there is no
scrubbing involved. So if you wanta media gratification get it cleaned up.
Just go to the hardware store.Ask for an oxalic ass or gosh,
why am I saying that, andoxygenated bleach. Mix it with water,

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spray it on, take a streetbroom after about ten minutes, agitate and
rinse. That ll go the directionof the Wet and Forget. Thanks much
for the call, Take a breakand back to your calls. You're at
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you've got a question, dollas upat eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five Keith welcome, I'm noingfine, thank you. I bought a
six by eight metal building to gooutside, uh huh, and I built
the floor to it out of threequarter instaiency to plywood. I built it

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ten by ten, okay, SoI put the building right in the middle.
So I have all this exposed plywoodon the outside, and it seems
like when it rains, it's almostlike the floor inside is It's not really
wet, but it looks kind ofdamp, and I wonder if something the
water that's on the outside may beabsorbing into the plywood and getting it wet

(39:35):
inside. It could be. Itcould be. Is there a product that
I could put on the outside tosteal that to keep that from happening?
Yeah? So is it a ledgethat's out extending beyond the walls? Is
it like two three inches or helpme out there? Well, it's yeah,

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it's got to jump edge, youknow, on two on two sides,
but it only sticks out maybe aninch. It's not a very very
long good edge. Hmmm. Theonly thing I would know, since it
is pressure treated, would be likea deck sealer. Do you do you

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happen to have any deck sealer atthe house. Oh no, I don't
know. I don't let if Iget it. Well, the only problem
with the deck sealers you gotta buygallons of it. You gotta buy a
gallon. So that's why i'm butthat would be what I would use.
I I I was thinking paint.Paint won't do it. Well, paint
will peel off it? Yeah,I mean after a year of its sitting

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out there, it won't peel offm hm. But a deck filler should
do it then, yeah, Imean paint would be better. But you
got to wait a year. Andhas this just been built. Yeah,
it's only been up for probably threefour months. Is there any way to
trim that piece off at all?H you're talking about the extension of the

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floor, Yeah, yeah, sothat the you know, the sighting on
there could then shed the water straightto the ground rather on rather than on
that deck board. Yeah. Well, the thing is there is because it's
not a very heavy building, youknow. So one part, the back
part of it, the bottom ofit is speak right close to one of

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the joyes, but it's not inthe joys. It's actually in the plywood.
And then and then uh where onone side of the shed is it's
actually over over one of the otherjoyes. So it's kind of that's what
I was gonna do. I wasgonna trim it all out and just where
it'd be in the middle. ButI'm not a carpenter, so I'm a

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bulldozer man. There's also another thing. As you were talking, I was
thinking other things may work on theirThere's a product called geocill. It's geo
ce l. It is a tripolymerclear rubberized ceialant. You'd use it for

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the inside of gutters. And it'sbrushable, so it'd be like a real
thick rubberized membrane you'd be brushing onthat. That might be a good option
for you. Yes, yes,it's called geocill ge O ce L brushable

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sealant. Let's ceo. Okay,okay, I guess I could go on
that online or would I have it? Uh? Ace may have it.
I've seen it also in home depots. It's not a real, real,
you know, popular commodity type product, but you know it's available and you'd

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certainly find it online too. Yes. Yeah, a brush or just a
brush. You can just put iton with a brush. It's almost like
a real syrup. It's almost likea thick pancake syrup. Okay, but
get that a try. Not awater proof Yeah. Yeah, I'll get

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out of cart if it works,give it. I'll get back when you
let you know at work. Soundsgreat, Thank you? Take care all
right? Uh. One of myfavorite products you hear me talk about it.
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