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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Best time of the day. I get us a good afternoon.
Welcome now our number four and you're at home with
Gary Sullivan. What great weather today? Huh? And uh did
you get frosted? You have freeze of freeze warning was
issued where I live up in Liberty Township, and uh
it did? It got really cold. A couple of things
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to remind you there too, is get that hose off
the hose bib uh for sure. If you've got an
irrigation system, cover up. If you've got any exposed copper lines,
let's start getting those insulated. A couple worthwhile tips there.
All right. It can be a warm week though, so
that's cool, beautiful fall weather. All right. Let me give
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you the phone number. It's eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five talking about your home, and if
you've got a project going on, feel free to join us.
We're going to get back to the phone lines we got, Ken, Ken,
thanks for hanging on. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Thank you, thanks for taking my call. Gary. I called
because a lady a while back called you and complained
about her dehumidifier that wasn't training through the hose, and
you mentioned that there might be a stuck valve in there.
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You weren't sure, and I'm not a guy that's good
with tools, but I had that same problem, and I
took the back of it off and looked in there.
I didn't see a valve, but I did see a trough,
and I didn't see anything that was hindering it. So
I began to suspect that the trough could have been
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angled wrong, or my basement floor was angled wrong. So
I'll take a thin board, laid it under the front
of the dehumidifier.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Gave it some grade, and guess what it worked.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I haven't exactly, so I hope I can help her
or anyone else that had that same problem.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Because no, that's a that's a great tip. In fact,
another thing that came up when you were describing it
very well as I was thinking in that trough, because
there is some trough sometimes there's a like I said,
a valve. But in those troughs sometimes if it's you know,
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it's been humid, but it's kind of got it controlled
with it. Do you umidifire and you get a little
bit of a slime that builds up down in that trough,
that could that could be keeping it stagnant, not flowing.
But I love the grade tip because especially in basements,
you know, there usually is a little bit of grade
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to the floor, especially if there's a floor drain. If
you kind of got that up on the wrong side
of that grade could certainly be the problem. So that's
a very helpful tip. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Oh that's quite all right.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I helped, I hope, because I hope it did too,
very very good.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I don't think she was the only one that called.
So yeah, it worked. It was simple, So good luck
with everyone else.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Very good. Thanks again, Ken, appreciate it, Thank you. Bet
all right. It's eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five. Let's go to Tom. Tom welcome.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I don't know why, yes, sir, I wanted some product
recommendations for I'm building a like a I don't know,
a TV room in the basement. And the floor is
this concrete, and the and the walls were painted years ago,
at least ten years ago, with some kind of white paint.
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And I don't think it was painted with a ceiling
type a seiler type paint, you know what I mean? Like,
what what do you what do you when you paint
basement walls, What do you usually use a certain kind?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Well, so you're painting this for cosmetic reasons, correct, you
don't have a moisture problem or anything along those lines.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
No problem.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Well, for a basement wall and it's been painted and
you want to paint it for cosmetic reasons, I'd use
a regular interior wallpaint. Okay, that's good enough.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Well, I don't know. I guess I don't have no
idea if they put a what do you if you're
building a new house and you have a base block basement,
what do you usually paint it with some type of.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Well, you can paint all kinds of things on there.
You can use a regular interior wall paint, as I
just suggested, maybe with a primer. For the first time,
you would use a primer and then a wall paint.
Like the other fellow that had a little bit of
a moisture issue. There's a dry lock, which is a
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waterproofing paint which is very thick. It's a synthetic rubber
or Portland cement based paint. You could use that. That's
why I was asking if you were just doing it
for cosmetics or whether you're trying to hold back water.
You know, vapor or anything along those lines.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Well, I guess this is the contractor that painted it,
and I don't know what he painted it with. Should
he have used the dry lock? Should he use the
dry lock paint or not?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
No, unless you told him to or it was specked
in the building. If it was just like you know,
in a lot, I'd say most builders when they're building
a house, they're not even going to paint that wall.
They're just going to leave it be a concrete wall. Right, So, well,
whoever painted it, I don't know what they used, right,
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I know.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
That, but I just think I don't know. I just
wondered what happens is it was the wrong thing to
do that, to not do dry lock on it, that's
what I wanted.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Well, Well, dry lock is a specific type of paint
that is a waterproofing paint to hold back up to
ten pounds per square inch of water. So usually it's
used as a problem solving kind of paint. And if
you just build a house, you probably don't have that problem.
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And if somebody is going to paint it, they probably
just used a regular interior wallpaint. They may not even
have primed it. It's not going to really hurt anything.
And if they use that or they use the dry
lock because there was a problem and you want to
just cosmetically change the looks. A regular wallpaint can go
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over both of those and not harm anything.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Okay, Well I just kind of kind of wish he
would have told me. I would have found out what
it was. I mean, you know, I was building this house,
and you know, I don't. You know, most people don't
know what to ask about or their specs.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
On the architectural drawings and the specs. You know. I've
seen a lot of people that that you know, they
just you know, no big deal until you want to
change something that's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Well, I'm trying to think, well, it doesn't matter what
the water problem that I had, what's underneath the siding,
not on the block above the block. When before he
before he puts this the fake stone whatever you call it,
on top of my what's that green board four by
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eight sheets? It's some kind of waterproofing plywood, you know
what I mean? The zip system. You've heard of that, right, Yeah? Okay,
Well he puts zip system on, but that's considered one
water resistant barrier. But before you put the system up.
You're supposed to have a second water water barrier like
most people put, I don't know what's that tibak or
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whether you're supposed to have too.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, well that's all above grade though, right, Yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
But that's that was supposedly COD two water resistant bah Okay,
but he didn't do it, and and that and that's
I don't know, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I just well, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Can bring up a good point too, and let me
kind of go on that. You know, when you build
a house and you have all the plans and you
have all the specifications. I've told this to many people,
is when that thing is built and you're ready to
close on that home, there's nothing wrong with getting the
home inspection service to go over and see if that's
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built properly, right, and see if those specifications were adhered to,
because you're right, right, and not all of us building
a home are in the home improvement industry or in
the home building industry, and you don't know. And that's
that's why you know, the home inspection things can actually
you know, you know, when I build a home, I
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know i'll i'll if i'm I'll finance it through a
you know, like a you know, a company, a mortgage company,
and they'll take draws on it and they'll come in
and do the inspections to make sure what they're paying
for is done exactly to what they said they were
going to do. So, I mean, that's a good tip
for everybody, Tom and people need to realize that it's
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it is a new house, but you know, if it's
not built properly, you can have problems with new houses too. Right.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
The other tip I had was when I found out
he didn't put the the second waterproof barrier over the
that zip system, you know, and the building department is, oh,
well it's it's already up.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Now it's too late, you know what I mean, Well,
it's not their problem, right, you know, they got to
give you occupancy permit and move on. And I guess
they can, you know, determine exactly what's in the contract
or I don't even know if they're gonna dig that deep,
but uh yeah, that's uh, that's certainly the issue. And
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I do encourage people to get the home inspected. And
I don't think anything really has to do with that
uh basement wall painting, but if you do, if you're
doing it for cosmics. Just let me lead this little
tidbit with you. And by the way, if you'd like
to join us, do so. It's eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five. We've got open lines and
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you can.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I know a lot of people looking for extra room
in your house.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I've seen people turning garages into gyms. Now I've seen
basements gyms. Uh. You know, obviously get more of the
bigger deal with uh. You know, recreation rooms and TV,
you know, theater rooms and things like that. But if
you're just looking for a cosmetic changing, you got small
kids gonna play, just paint those walls. It don't change
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the look. It'll be helpful, all right. It's eight hundred
eight two three eight two five five at home with
Gary Salvyn right here in fifty five care see detalk station. Well,
this time of year, there's so many things to talk
about and so many things to really pay attention to
in your home and even on the outside of your home.
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And I always make a list of different things to
just kind of talk about when we have a chance.
And one of the things with the winds we've had,
with the amount of rainfall at times we've had like
Colleen when she kind of blew in a little bit
of Rainfor us, we always hear in the news stories
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of trees falling on cars, falling on houses, and again,
you know, I talk a lot about prevention of problems
and preventive maintenance for your homes and things you really
ought to check into as the leaves are like I
got a big old ash tree which I treat, and
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it's in good, healthy shape and it still has all
its leaves, but they're all going to drop here in
the next week. And I got a locust tree and
those leaves are just about practically dropped. The reason I'm
bringing that up is if you have, and many of
us do, especially in older neighborhoods in a Greater Cincinnati area,
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and especially in older urban areas where the lots are
a little smaller and you have very large, mature trees
and these large branches are extending over the house, it
would be a really good idea to have that tree
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trimmed at the very least, have that tree inspected, inspected
for the health of the tree, the health of the branch,
and trimmed back. Because a lot of the trees that
you see that fall and new damage. And our friend
Ron Wilson can attest to this. They were already in
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a pay in a period of you know, decline, and
they were weak, and then you get heavy rains and
you get winds, and then you get branches that snopped off,
and if they're over a house, that's a problem. Having
them inspected, having them trimmed back, that's a if you
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live in a situation as I just described, that would
be a good thing to put on your list. The
other thing is this time of year. We had that
horrific fire this past week where three maybe four people
died in a house fire. In October's kind of fire
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safety month. But there's so many things that you know,
as you talk about preventive maintenance that you know not
done could in effect cause a fire of different you know, degrees.
I guess I don't think that one's been quite determined yet,
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but even not having your dryer inspected and clean out
the lint and make sure it's properly vented can overheat
a dryer and create a fire. And you know, a
good sign that you have a problem is when you
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realize you're doing the wash and you're running the dryer
and the clothes just aren't drying as rapidly as they
used to. And if that's the case, there's a good
chance that that duckwork is compromised, got lint build up
in it, or the vent outside has a lint build
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up in that, or in some of these condos, I've
seen the vent pipe from a dryer extend out twenty
feet before it exits the house and a little dip
in that or a couple of elbows, and it doesn't
have enough force to get the hot air out of
the duck work, creating condensation of water in the duck work,
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causing a dryer it overheat. So you can check out.
In most cases, most of us can check to see
if that duck work behind the dryer to the exit
of the house is clean. And hardware stores sell duck
cleaning brushes. You can have it professionally cleaned out. But
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that's something new again, put on that list as we
spend more time indoors. Now, all right back to the phones.
We got Todd Todd welcome, Oh.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
You got me quick, you got me too quick?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Area, There you go.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
What a great program. I learned so much Okay, get
to the point. I was an arborist at CG and
E and Duke Energy, so I tram everything around, electrical
wires and a lot of nasty stuff and whatever. You
find a decent tree company, get a couple estimates to
get to your point. Excuse me, We got part of
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that hurricane wind up here, which is nothing compared to
poor North Carolina down there. Cabling embracing, which is installing
a lag screw and two opposite areas a structure. They
balance themselves out. So when you get you have large
lembs like you're talking about in older parts of town,
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you get huge trees twenty feet away from the house
which were little thirty years ago. And then you get
large limbs, and you find a decent company a couple estimates.
I still climb, not as fast as I used to,
but I've been installing a lot of tables. It's less expensive.
You're not taking out a large portion of the tree, right,
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and you're basically like tabling and bracing like a bridge
holds itself up if it's structurally worth doing it, and
it's usually a lot less expensive.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Right, Well, barbarous, You're exactly right. They can give you options.
A lot of what you can do because I've seen this.
This drives me crazy too, is you'll be in a
little quarter acre lobbed in an urban setting and that
tree's probably a seventy year old pinoak.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Well, those are the worst for the root system.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, and that sucker is just chopped up so much.
It's like, give up on this tree. You have like
a totem pull in your front yard. You know they've already,
you know, somebody's all done the deed to that poor tree.
Whereas if you have a certified your question.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Gary specific to the pen I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead, Okay,
that's very important because they're beautiful, they're fast growing. Pinoak
is an oak family obviously, because we have such heavy,
dense clay soiled, they don't have a deep root system.
I've taken unfortunately a lot of them off of houses
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and power lines with h Penoaks and specifically Bradford pairs
are another.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
But in fact, I'm putting cables in a neighbor's tree,
a very large you know, send it out, put some
tables in. It's less expensive, and it makes it safer
because they have narrow crotches. But penoaks get so much
dead wood in them. It's uh common for that particular Oh,
unlike white oaks and some red oaks they don't get
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that problem. So when you see them skinned up, Yeah,
and sometimes people are over you know, overdo it. But
you're talking about several tons blowing in the wind there
next to a little house.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Right, No, yeah, at the very least, get a certified
arborists in there and let them just do a little
inspection of it. We inspect all kinds of things and ask.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Them why they're telling you what they're telling you.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Right, Well, talk about that when I'm always talking about
getting you know, a couple estimates on a big job
like a roof, and they'll say, well should I do
this and should I do that? I ask them what
the differences are? You know? Yeah, exactly. They'll be happy
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because the person that's probably doing those estimates is proud
by the way they do it. They'll give you their
reasoning and then it's up to you to listen and
make a decision. But you're exactly right. You gotta get
some professional help. Like that fella I was talking to earlier.
I probably don't get too stressed out by calls, but
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he's telling me there's not enough room for this stove,
and the code makes me pull the feet of the
wall and can I just put another stoveboard behind? Well,
I'm not gonna tell you. Yes, oh he no, that
code is there for a reason.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
No, but they can because I have an r V
and I put a little wood stove in there. But
you can put a double wall. But that was left
up to me.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Right, yeah, exactly that. You know, you said it right.
I'm not going to tell you. You can go talk
to a CSI certified chimney sweep and he's not gonna
tell you either, but you can check with him. But
you know, as you're home for yourself and see, yeah,
you can do whatever you want to do. You're there.
You just keep checking that wall.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Though you're the one that's gonna burn your.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Like you know, like Jeff on the Chimney Care company
up in Loveland, he'd always stand there and say, you
just got to remember you're building a fire inside your house.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Heck yeah, and that's that's seven eight, nine hundred degrees. Yeah,
so next to the wood.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, And there's codes for a reason, but you can
do whatever you want. Yeah, Todd. Thank you very much.
I appreciate ill.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Thank no, thanks for your program, my lord. I've digged out,
dug out my own foundation, put drainage in thanks to
your help years ago of the you know ever drive
does a great job, but I didn't have the money.
They are the best. My brother worked for him, but
I got my own spade and started digging a hole.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, there you go. Well, very good, Thank you my friend.
Thank you, Garrett, take care, goodbye. Twelve thirty one. It is.
We'll take a break, we'll come back. We'll talk with Rick,
and if you'd like to join us, please do. It's
eight hundred and eight two three two five to five
year at home with Garry Salvan right here in fifty
five k seed detalk station and back at it we go,
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twelve thirty six on your Saturday. I hope it's been
a good one. Got some great weather this afternoon tomorrow?
Looking good? All right? TURR phone number is eight hundred
eight two three eight two five five. Jump on board
and uh let's talk about your home issues or home projects.
Let's go to Rick. Rick.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Welcome, yep, Hey Rick, Yeah, hello, yep, fire away hello, yep.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yes, I got I got some leaf stains on a
new concrete driveway.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
What is the best way to get them off?
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Well, Uh, you can try a bunch of things. They're tough.
It depends what kind of leaf it is, but a
lot of them have what they call tannins in them,
and tannin's are a stain. And when it's you know,
you get a lot of morning dew and you get
moisture and rain. It penetrates into the concrete. So you
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can try something as simple like tri sodium phosphate, which
is a powder, very heavy detergent. Get it onto the surface,
take a street broom. I'd let it sit there probably
ten fifteen minutes if you can, and then get a
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street broom in just you know, the woody fibered street broom,
or even a pressure washer and have at it. See
if you can clean it up that way. It really
depends on how far down those tannins got into the concrete.
I mean, sometimes you'll lighten them, but you won't just
get rid of them. It'll just eventually fade away. There's
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also I know people will use baking soda and make
a paste with water and just put it over the
stains and let that sit there again about probably forty
five minutes. Let that sit there, and then hit it
with a pressure watcher. I've seen people use hydrogen peroxide.
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I've seen another thing I haven't used, but I think
I'm going to try it, or if you want to
try it and be the field reporter. In the hardware
stores or in paint stores, there's what they call a
deck brightener, and a deck brightener is oxalic acid, which
is wood bleach. And I got just a gut feeling
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that that may work, but I've not tried it.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
What was it called solic acid?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Well, it's oxalic acid, but it's packaged in a product
called a deck brightener. Okay, an oxalic acid is what
they take stains out a wood floors with, and so
that might be an option, but I have not used that,
so I'm not gonna say that's definitely gonna work. The
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other issues I have to use. Yeah, no, no, that's
not gonna do it. That's just gonna do molds, mildew, fungus, algae,
that type of thing.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Okay, Well, I got quite a bit of space to do,
and that's why I was.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
I was wondering, you know. Yeah, Well, they're they're tough.
I mean, I used to have a walnut tree by
my house, and you know, every fall you could see
the you could see perfect shapes of leaves, and I'd
get out there and I'd scrub them down with a
tri sodium phosphate and get a pressure and hit pressure
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washer and hit them, or even like an oxygenated bleach.
That's another powder you could try. And it always kind
of cleaned it up, but it would never remove it
one hundred percent. But by uh springtime next year, the
sun beat it up and I beat it up, and
by by May it was kind of clean and waited
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till fall again. But waller trees are real high and tans,
so they do make these are maple trees.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
And what it.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Is, Okay, well, most of your leaves have tannins. It's
you know, how how poors the concrete is, and what
type of leef it is?
Speaker 6 (26:32):
Would that deck brightener with it hurt the concrete?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
What? What would hurt it?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
That deck brightener?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
No, no, it's not going to hurt anything. No, no,
But it's kind of a like I said, it is
an exotic acid, but it's not strong enough to etch
concrete or anything. The purpose of that product, I told
you what the base was, the exolic acid on on wood.
What it'll do is it'll take the gray out of
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wood and make it look almost new again. It kind
of restores the original look. So you know it may work.
I don't know. I've not used it.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Do you have a brand name board or.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
No, everybody's got their own. They're all pretty much the same.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Okay, alrighty you describe it works, I'll let you know.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Please do, thank you, thank you, all right, take care? Yeah,
who knows, but that will all right. Let's go Scott, Scott, welcome,
good morning. How are you doing fine? Yeah, it is fine.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
I got a question, And I apologize if somebody has
hit on this the past week or so, but I
couldn't get to the podcast to catch up with it.
But I'm installing a new mail box this fall, treated
southern pine, and I thought I heard about a week
or two ago somebody commented on a deck situation where
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most recently they are not putting the treated lumber out there.
I guess in the manufacturing it's not quite what it
used to be decades ago, Like it's not baked in
as well or saturated as much. So I'm kind of
worried about letting this go. You used to, they used
to say, let it season before you do anything with it,
stain it or peanut But is it okay? I want
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to I want to paint it. I want to pean
it white. Do I do it now at the installation
or let it I'm afraid to let it sit through
the one.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, I hear it, and and there's some concern to that.
There is some concern that it's a valid concern. So
I don't want you to paint it because it's gonna
peel right off. There's still enoughing there pretty much.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
You want to pick it up. Yeah, it's nice. It
was nice and heavy, so I know there's something in there.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah yeah, if so, so the process will be. What
makes pressure treated wood vulnerable is when the wood cracks.
So when it dries out, it shrinks, and it dries
out faster in the summertime because the UV rays of
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the sun right it's intense, and that wood shrinks and
it cracks, and the pressure treatment is probably I don't know,
an eight eighth of an inch, quarter of an inch,
three sixteenths of an inch just doesn't go down very
far into the wood, and when that cracks, that center
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of that crack is not pressure treated. Okay, so and
it's gonna hold water. So the real thing is to
keep that from cracking, I guess is the best way
to do it. But you can't paint it because there's
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too much water. It's going to be pulled up, that
paint's going to appeal and it's still going to crack.
So painting is not an answer. How long has that
been up at this point.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
I haven't put it, I haven't installed it yet.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Okay. One of the things you might be able to
do is still get a protection on there, and the
semi transparent stains, which can then be covered up with
a solid color stain or pain, will offer sunlight protection
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to that wood. But it has to penetrate into the
wood too. It's not a coating, it's a penetrate. So
that wood's got to be dry, but it doesn't have
to be as dry as it would have to be
if it were solid color stain. If you're following all that,
so if we're and we're also going to a point
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where that sun is not as intense now, right, so
it's less likely to crack from the sun in the
months November through March or through February for sure. So
maybe you put it up and then next March put
like a clear semi transparent stain on there, like a
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super deck that has some UV protection in if you
want to put a darker color on there, like a
chocolate brown, is going to have better UV protection, And
by next March you could get that to give it
protection and then paint it next September. Okay, So kind
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of a kind of like mother Nature will protect it
for the first three or four months because the sun
will below in the sky, it won't be as intense.
Then are semi transparent will be able to penetrate. It'll
give it protection to the summer months, and then paint
it next year. It'll be dried out.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
At that point. At that point there won't be any
cooked because I really want to paint it white. It
doesn't matter at that point, since I've stealed at what
color it is when I decided to paint it, doesn't
That's correct, Okay, Okay, yeah, I was worried about that.
I've seen that a neighborhood closed the mind. Remember when
they built that development, they had a thing where all
the mailboxes there looked the same and they were all installed.
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They are big mass of like six by six posts,
six by six arm a big mailbox and they were
white with a black mailbox and they were colored that installation.
I was like, how did they do that? Was so fast?
Like was this aged or were they produced and sitting somewhere.
And I really liked the look and that's what I
wanted to do. But yeah, I'm thinking, you just can't
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paint that with it being so heavy satura.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
You really can't. And there I get horror stories all
the time on this show where somebody painted it, and
they especially on decks maybe not mailboxes, just put in
a deck, spent all this money and they put solid
color stain on it. The peel.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Kills right off.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
What what what's a recommended type? I'm sure it's not.
You can't be painting that late texts. It's outside on
that lumber.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Oh yeah, breeze. So you could use a you could
use a white solid color stain, or you could use
a good quality exterior paint. Once you waited that year
and it's got something to bite into, you're fine.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Okay, all right, okay, all right, well I clears up
a lot of it. I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
You're quite welcome, Thank you. All right, Uh, let's take
a little break. We'll come back. We got Richard if
you'd like to join us. It's eight hundred eighty two
three eight two five five year at home with Gary
Salvan right here on fifty five. Care see the talk station.
All right, back at it we go, twelve fifty two.
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That is the time, and we're talking a little home improvement.
A reminder, back at it tomorrow morning, nine to noon.
No on Sundays, we should be here with any kind
of look at all. All right, let's talk to Richard. Richard.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
Welcome, Hi Gary, Thanks thanks for having this show. This
is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
I got a question about cutting marble. Okay, not the
poors and laminate tiles or anything like that, but solid marble.
Uh what kind of blade? And do rental shops have
the kind of blade that I need?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah? They do, they do. Of course. The best thing
when cutting marble would be like a wet saw.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
Oh yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Mean that's the best. But after that, a circular saw
or an angle grinder and a diamond cut blade. Okay
are these tiles? Is that what they are? Yes?
Speaker 7 (34:56):
Yes, I'm a father of a dog who has a
ten year old house and redoing their shower that was leaking. Okay,
So I'm replacing some tile, okay, And I've got the
cement backboard and everything like that, and I've got all
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that time, and unfortunately the replacement tile is not the
porcelain laminate. It's the solid marble.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Okay, Okay, Well to answer your question, yes, yeah, I
was a circular saw with a diamond cut blade. They'll
have the blades there and everything. That would be the
way i'd go.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
Okay, if if the blade on some of them that
I've called up said they'll cut porcelain and they're supposed
to be diamond tip blades, is.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
That I don't know if there's a difference between the
two or not. To be honest with you, I would
assume that that would be the same kind of blade.
Speaker 7 (36:06):
Uh. Yeah, I would think so, because no one's going
to have a solid diamond it's blade. It's going to
be just a diamond tipical.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, it's yeah. I mean I literally would say a
diamond blade, you know. I mean, I don't know if
I need to go any deeper than that. I'm cutting
marble and your diamond blade and you know the circular
salt for that, and go for it.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
Yeah, okay, okay, all right, excellent, Thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Welcome.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
All right, let me know how you make out, Richard.
I appreciate the call. Thank you. All right. Well, that's
we've covered the gamut today, there's no question about it. Yeah,
I'm still troubled by a couple the calls today. You know,
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I'm like everybody else, you know, there are projects that
I just don't want to get involved in. It's either
going to be physically too demanding for where I am
in life, or it's going to be too complicated. And
I will and I understand that frustration. And it's your house.
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You can do whatever you want in your house. I
don't try to make a project any more difficult than
it is, and I try to be as honest as
I can when it comes to the results that you're
trying to accomplish, but always kind of think of this
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source of the problem. Here's a story. I had my
fall checking for my furnace, and there's a furnace that
does the upstairs bedroom that's in an attic, and twenty
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five years ago you could use a high efficiency furnace
in an attic, and the code today is you should not.
But I like my high efficiency furnace, right, and that's
what I want. Well, we can do that. There's some
precautions you have to do. You're not new construction or
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anything like that. And I was asking questions just like
you would be doing. I knew what I wanted, and
they're explaining to me about why you don't want that.
And the reason is there's a water pipe inside this
and if you were out of the house for a
week and that thing got really cold, it could break
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and then you'd have water dripping down. And I'm thinking, like,
you know that that's not going to happen, but it could.
It could. The moral of the thing is, we're all
kind of have to make that decision, right. I wanted
that high efficiency up there, but we don't use those
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bedrooms like we used to, and it's not as important
as it used to be to be high efficiency. And
sometimes we're gone and maybe for a few days, and
I didn't want to take that risk, and I made
a decision not to put a high efficiency furnace up there,
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And so all I can do when you have questions
like that is to challenge you to make a decision
at your house. Do whatever you want, but you know,
you got to consider safety. You've got to consider if
it isn't going to perform what you wanted to do,
how much damage can it, you know, cause and we're
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all faced with decisions like that. So I try not
to be uh pushy about it, but I am going
to tell you, well, you know it says not to
and here's why. All right, enough of that, Danny boy,
thank you very much, Sorry folks about the cold. And
we called through four hours and the Good Lord willing,
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we'll be back tomorrow for more At Home with Gary
Sullivan
Best time of the day. I get us a good afternoon.
Welcome now our number four and you're at home with
Gary Sullivan. What great weather today? Huh? And uh did
you get frosted? You have freeze of freeze warning was
issued where I live up in Liberty Township, and uh
it did? It got really cold. A couple of things
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to remind you there too, is get that hose off
the hose bib uh for sure. If you've got an
irrigation system, cover up. If you've got any exposed copper lines,
let's start getting those insulated. A couple worthwhile tips there.
All right. It can be a warm week though, so
that's cool, beautiful fall weather. All right. Let me give
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you the phone number. It's eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five talking about your home, and if
you've got a project going on, feel free to join us.
We're going to get back to the phone lines we got, Ken, Ken,
thanks for hanging on. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Thank you, thanks for taking my call. Gary. I called
because a lady a while back called you and complained
about her dehumidifier that wasn't training through the hose, and
you mentioned that there might be a stuck valve in there.
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You weren't sure, and I'm not a guy that's good
with tools, but I had that same problem, and I
took the back of it off and looked in there.
I didn't see a valve, but I did see a trough,
and I didn't see anything that was hindering it. So
I began to suspect that the trough could have been
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angled wrong, or my basement floor was angled wrong. So
I'll take a thin board, laid it under the front
of the dehumidifier.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Gave it some grade, and guess what it worked.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I haven't exactly, so I hope I can help her
or anyone else that had that same problem.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Because no, that's a that's a great tip. In fact,
another thing that came up when you were describing it
very well as I was thinking in that trough, because
there is some trough sometimes there's a like I said,
a valve. But in those troughs sometimes if it's you know,
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it's been humid, but it's kind of got it controlled
with it. Do you umidifire and you get a little
bit of a slime that builds up down in that trough,
that could that could be keeping it stagnant, not flowing.
But I love the grade tip because especially in basements,
you know, there usually is a little bit of grade
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to the floor, especially if there's a floor drain. If
you kind of got that up on the wrong side
of that grade could certainly be the problem. So that's
a very helpful tip. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Oh that's quite all right.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I helped, I hope, because I hope it did too,
very very good.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I don't think she was the only one that called.
So yeah, it worked. It was simple, So good luck
with everyone else.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Very good. Thanks again, Ken, appreciate it, Thank you. Bet
all right. It's eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five. Let's go to Tom. Tom welcome.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I don't know why, yes, sir, I wanted some product
recommendations for I'm building a like a I don't know,
a TV room in the basement. And the floor is
this concrete, and the and the walls were painted years ago,
at least ten years ago, with some kind of white paint.
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And I don't think it was painted with a ceiling
type a seiler type paint, you know what I mean? Like,
what what do you what do you when you paint
basement walls, What do you usually use a certain kind?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Well, so you're painting this for cosmetic reasons, correct, you
don't have a moisture problem or anything along those lines.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
No problem.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Well, for a basement wall and it's been painted and
you want to paint it for cosmetic reasons, I'd use
a regular interior wallpaint. Okay, that's good enough.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Well, I don't know. I guess I don't have no
idea if they put a what do you if you're
building a new house and you have a base block basement,
what do you usually paint it with some type of.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Well, you can paint all kinds of things on there.
You can use a regular interior wall paint, as I
just suggested, maybe with a primer. For the first time,
you would use a primer and then a wall paint.
Like the other fellow that had a little bit of
a moisture issue. There's a dry lock, which is a
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waterproofing paint which is very thick. It's a synthetic rubber
or Portland cement based paint. You could use that. That's
why I was asking if you were just doing it
for cosmetics or whether you're trying to hold back water.
You know, vapor or anything along those lines.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Well, I guess this is the contractor that painted it,
and I don't know what he painted it with. Should
he have used the dry lock? Should he use the
dry lock paint or not?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
No, unless you told him to or it was specked
in the building. If it was just like you know,
in a lot, I'd say most builders when they're building
a house, they're not even going to paint that wall.
They're just going to leave it be a concrete wall. Right, So, well,
whoever painted it, I don't know what they used, right,
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I know.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
That, but I just think I don't know. I just
wondered what happens is it was the wrong thing to
do that, to not do dry lock on it, that's
what I wanted.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Well, Well, dry lock is a specific type of paint
that is a waterproofing paint to hold back up to
ten pounds per square inch of water. So usually it's
used as a problem solving kind of paint. And if
you just build a house, you probably don't have that problem.
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And if somebody is going to paint it, they probably
just used a regular interior wallpaint. They may not even
have primed it. It's not going to really hurt anything.
And if they use that or they use the dry
lock because there was a problem and you want to
just cosmetically change the looks. A regular wallpaint can go
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over both of those and not harm anything.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Okay, Well I just kind of kind of wish he
would have told me. I would have found out what
it was. I mean, you know, I was building this house,
and you know, I don't. You know, most people don't
know what to ask about or their specs.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
On the architectural drawings and the specs. You know. I've
seen a lot of people that that you know, they
just you know, no big deal until you want to
change something that's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Well, I'm trying to think, well, it doesn't matter what
the water problem that I had, what's underneath the siding,
not on the block above the block. When before he
before he puts this the fake stone whatever you call it,
on top of my what's that green board four by
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eight sheets? It's some kind of waterproofing plywood, you know
what I mean? The zip system. You've heard of that, right, Yeah? Okay,
Well he puts zip system on, but that's considered one
water resistant barrier. But before you put the system up.
You're supposed to have a second water water barrier like
most people put, I don't know what's that tibak or
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whether you're supposed to have too.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, well that's all above grade though, right, Yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
But that's that was supposedly COD two water resistant bah Okay,
but he didn't do it, and and that and that's
I don't know, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I just well, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Can bring up a good point too, and let me
kind of go on that. You know, when you build
a house and you have all the plans and you
have all the specifications. I've told this to many people,
is when that thing is built and you're ready to
close on that home, there's nothing wrong with getting the
home inspection service to go over and see if that's
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built properly, right, and see if those specifications were adhered to,
because you're right, right, and not all of us building
a home are in the home improvement industry or in
the home building industry, and you don't know. And that's
that's why you know, the home inspection things can actually
you know, you know, when I build a home, I
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know i'll i'll if i'm I'll finance it through a
you know, like a you know, a company, a mortgage company,
and they'll take draws on it and they'll come in
and do the inspections to make sure what they're paying
for is done exactly to what they said they were
going to do. So, I mean, that's a good tip
for everybody, Tom and people need to realize that it's
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it is a new house, but you know, if it's
not built properly, you can have problems with new houses too. Right.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
The other tip I had was when I found out
he didn't put the the second waterproof barrier over the
that zip system, you know, and the building department is, oh,
well it's it's already up.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Now it's too late, you know what I mean, Well,
it's not their problem, right, you know, they got to
give you occupancy permit and move on. And I guess
they can, you know, determine exactly what's in the contract
or I don't even know if they're gonna dig that deep,
but uh yeah, that's uh, that's certainly the issue. And
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I do encourage people to get the home inspected. And
I don't think anything really has to do with that
uh basement wall painting, but if you do, if you're
doing it for cosmics. Just let me lead this little
tidbit with you. And by the way, if you'd like
to join us, do so. It's eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five. We've got open lines and
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you can.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I know a lot of people looking for extra room
in your house.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I've seen people turning garages into gyms. Now I've seen
basements gyms. Uh. You know, obviously get more of the
bigger deal with uh. You know, recreation rooms and TV,
you know, theater rooms and things like that. But if
you're just looking for a cosmetic changing, you got small
kids gonna play, just paint those walls. It don't change
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the look. It'll be helpful, all right. It's eight hundred
eight two three eight two five five at home with
Gary Salvyn right here in fifty five care see detalk station. Well,
this time of year, there's so many things to talk
about and so many things to really pay attention to
in your home and even on the outside of your home.
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And I always make a list of different things to
just kind of talk about when we have a chance.
And one of the things with the winds we've had,
with the amount of rainfall at times we've had like
Colleen when she kind of blew in a little bit
of Rainfor us, we always hear in the news stories
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of trees falling on cars, falling on houses, and again,
you know, I talk a lot about prevention of problems
and preventive maintenance for your homes and things you really
ought to check into as the leaves are like I
got a big old ash tree which I treat, and
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it's in good, healthy shape and it still has all
its leaves, but they're all going to drop here in
the next week. And I got a locust tree and
those leaves are just about practically dropped. The reason I'm
bringing that up is if you have, and many of
us do, especially in older neighborhoods in a Greater Cincinnati area,
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and especially in older urban areas where the lots are
a little smaller and you have very large, mature trees
and these large branches are extending over the house, it
would be a really good idea to have that tree
(12:50):
trimmed at the very least, have that tree inspected, inspected
for the health of the tree, the health of the branch,
and trimmed back. Because a lot of the trees that
you see that fall and new damage. And our friend
Ron Wilson can attest to this. They were already in
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a pay in a period of you know, decline, and
they were weak, and then you get heavy rains and
you get winds, and then you get branches that snopped off,
and if they're over a house, that's a problem. Having
them inspected, having them trimmed back, that's a if you
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live in a situation as I just described, that would
be a good thing to put on your list. The
other thing is this time of year. We had that
horrific fire this past week where three maybe four people
died in a house fire. In October's kind of fire
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safety month. But there's so many things that you know,
as you talk about preventive maintenance that you know not
done could in effect cause a fire of different you know, degrees.
I guess I don't think that one's been quite determined yet,
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but even not having your dryer inspected and clean out
the lint and make sure it's properly vented can overheat
a dryer and create a fire. And you know, a
good sign that you have a problem is when you
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realize you're doing the wash and you're running the dryer
and the clothes just aren't drying as rapidly as they
used to. And if that's the case, there's a good
chance that that duckwork is compromised, got lint build up
in it, or the vent outside has a lint build
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up in that, or in some of these condos, I've
seen the vent pipe from a dryer extend out twenty
feet before it exits the house and a little dip
in that or a couple of elbows, and it doesn't
have enough force to get the hot air out of
the duck work, creating condensation of water in the duck work,
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causing a dryer it overheat. So you can check out.
In most cases, most of us can check to see
if that duck work behind the dryer to the exit
of the house is clean. And hardware stores sell duck
cleaning brushes. You can have it professionally cleaned out. But
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that's something new again, put on that list as we
spend more time indoors. Now, all right back to the phones.
We got Todd Todd welcome, Oh.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
You got me quick, you got me too quick?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Area, There you go.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
What a great program. I learned so much Okay, get
to the point. I was an arborist at CG and
E and Duke Energy, so I tram everything around, electrical
wires and a lot of nasty stuff and whatever. You
find a decent tree company, get a couple estimates to
get to your point. Excuse me, We got part of
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that hurricane wind up here, which is nothing compared to
poor North Carolina down there. Cabling embracing, which is installing
a lag screw and two opposite areas a structure. They
balance themselves out. So when you get you have large
lembs like you're talking about in older parts of town,
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you get huge trees twenty feet away from the house
which were little thirty years ago. And then you get
large limbs, and you find a decent company a couple estimates.
I still climb, not as fast as I used to,
but I've been installing a lot of tables. It's less expensive.
You're not taking out a large portion of the tree, right,
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and you're basically like tabling and bracing like a bridge
holds itself up if it's structurally worth doing it, and
it's usually a lot less expensive.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Right, Well, barbarous, You're exactly right. They can give you options.
A lot of what you can do because I've seen this.
This drives me crazy too, is you'll be in a
little quarter acre lobbed in an urban setting and that
tree's probably a seventy year old pinoak.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Well, those are the worst for the root system.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, and that sucker is just chopped up so much.
It's like, give up on this tree. You have like
a totem pull in your front yard. You know they've already,
you know, somebody's all done the deed to that poor tree.
Whereas if you have a certified your question.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Gary specific to the pen I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead, Okay,
that's very important because they're beautiful, they're fast growing. Pinoak
is an oak family obviously, because we have such heavy,
dense clay soiled, they don't have a deep root system.
I've taken unfortunately a lot of them off of houses
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and power lines with h Penoaks and specifically Bradford pairs
are another.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
But in fact, I'm putting cables in a neighbor's tree,
a very large you know, send it out, put some
tables in. It's less expensive, and it makes it safer
because they have narrow crotches. But penoaks get so much
dead wood in them. It's uh common for that particular Oh,
unlike white oaks and some red oaks they don't get
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that problem. So when you see them skinned up, Yeah,
and sometimes people are over you know, overdo it. But
you're talking about several tons blowing in the wind there
next to a little house.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Right, No, yeah, at the very least, get a certified
arborists in there and let them just do a little
inspection of it. We inspect all kinds of things and ask.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Them why they're telling you what they're telling you.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Right, Well, talk about that when I'm always talking about
getting you know, a couple estimates on a big job
like a roof, and they'll say, well should I do
this and should I do that? I ask them what
the differences are? You know? Yeah, exactly. They'll be happy
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because the person that's probably doing those estimates is proud
by the way they do it. They'll give you their
reasoning and then it's up to you to listen and
make a decision. But you're exactly right. You gotta get
some professional help. Like that fella I was talking to earlier.
I probably don't get too stressed out by calls, but
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he's telling me there's not enough room for this stove,
and the code makes me pull the feet of the
wall and can I just put another stoveboard behind? Well,
I'm not gonna tell you. Yes, oh he no, that
code is there for a reason.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
No, but they can because I have an r V
and I put a little wood stove in there. But
you can put a double wall. But that was left
up to me.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Right, yeah, exactly that. You know, you said it right.
I'm not going to tell you. You can go talk
to a CSI certified chimney sweep and he's not gonna
tell you either, but you can check with him. But
you know, as you're home for yourself and see, yeah,
you can do whatever you want to do. You're there.
You just keep checking that wall.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Though you're the one that's gonna burn your.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Like you know, like Jeff on the Chimney Care company
up in Loveland, he'd always stand there and say, you
just got to remember you're building a fire inside your house.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Heck yeah, and that's that's seven eight, nine hundred degrees. Yeah,
so next to the wood.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, And there's codes for a reason, but you can
do whatever you want. Yeah, Todd. Thank you very much.
I appreciate ill.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Thank no, thanks for your program, my lord. I've digged out,
dug out my own foundation, put drainage in thanks to
your help years ago of the you know ever drive
does a great job, but I didn't have the money.
They are the best. My brother worked for him, but
I got my own spade and started digging a hole.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, there you go. Well, very good, Thank you my friend.
Thank you, Garrett, take care, goodbye. Twelve thirty one. It is.
We'll take a break, we'll come back. We'll talk with Rick,
and if you'd like to join us, please do. It's
eight hundred and eight two three two five to five
year at home with Garry Salvan right here in fifty
five k seed detalk station and back at it we go,
(22:06):
twelve thirty six on your Saturday. I hope it's been
a good one. Got some great weather this afternoon tomorrow?
Looking good? All right? TURR phone number is eight hundred
eight two three eight two five five. Jump on board
and uh let's talk about your home issues or home projects.
Let's go to Rick. Rick.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Welcome, yep, Hey Rick, Yeah, hello, yep, fire away hello, yep.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yes, I got I got some leaf stains on a
new concrete driveway.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
What is the best way to get them off?
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Well, Uh, you can try a bunch of things. They're tough.
It depends what kind of leaf it is, but a
lot of them have what they call tannins in them,
and tannin's are a stain. And when it's you know,
you get a lot of morning dew and you get
moisture and rain. It penetrates into the concrete. So you
(23:06):
can try something as simple like tri sodium phosphate, which
is a powder, very heavy detergent. Get it onto the surface,
take a street broom. I'd let it sit there probably
ten fifteen minutes if you can, and then get a
(23:27):
street broom in just you know, the woody fibered street broom,
or even a pressure washer and have at it. See
if you can clean it up that way. It really
depends on how far down those tannins got into the concrete.
I mean, sometimes you'll lighten them, but you won't just
get rid of them. It'll just eventually fade away. There's
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also I know people will use baking soda and make
a paste with water and just put it over the
stains and let that sit there again about probably forty
five minutes. Let that sit there, and then hit it
with a pressure watcher. I've seen people use hydrogen peroxide.
(24:15):
I've seen another thing I haven't used, but I think
I'm going to try it, or if you want to
try it and be the field reporter. In the hardware
stores or in paint stores, there's what they call a
deck brightener, and a deck brightener is oxalic acid, which
is wood bleach. And I got just a gut feeling
(24:41):
that that may work, but I've not tried it.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
What was it called solic acid?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Well, it's oxalic acid, but it's packaged in a product
called a deck brightener. Okay, an oxalic acid is what
they take stains out a wood floors with, and so
that might be an option, but I have not used that,
so I'm not gonna say that's definitely gonna work. The
(25:11):
other issues I have to use. Yeah, no, no, that's
not gonna do it. That's just gonna do molds, mildew, fungus, algae,
that type of thing.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Okay, Well, I got quite a bit of space to do,
and that's why I was.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
I was wondering, you know. Yeah, Well, they're they're tough.
I mean, I used to have a walnut tree by
my house, and you know, every fall you could see
the you could see perfect shapes of leaves, and I'd
get out there and I'd scrub them down with a
tri sodium phosphate and get a pressure and hit pressure
(25:51):
washer and hit them, or even like an oxygenated bleach.
That's another powder you could try. And it always kind
of cleaned it up, but it would never remove it
one hundred percent. But by uh springtime next year, the
sun beat it up and I beat it up, and
by by May it was kind of clean and waited
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till fall again. But waller trees are real high and tans,
so they do make these are maple trees.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
And what it.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Is, Okay, well, most of your leaves have tannins. It's
you know, how how poors the concrete is, and what
type of leef it is?
Speaker 6 (26:32):
Would that deck brightener with it hurt the concrete?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
What? What would hurt it?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
That deck brightener?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
No, no, it's not going to hurt anything. No, no,
But it's kind of a like I said, it is
an exotic acid, but it's not strong enough to etch
concrete or anything. The purpose of that product, I told
you what the base was, the exolic acid on on wood.
What it'll do is it'll take the gray out of
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wood and make it look almost new again. It kind
of restores the original look. So you know it may work.
I don't know. I've not used it.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Do you have a brand name board or.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
No, everybody's got their own. They're all pretty much the same.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Okay, alrighty you describe it works, I'll let you know.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Please do, thank you, thank you, all right, take care? Yeah,
who knows, but that will all right. Let's go Scott, Scott, welcome,
good morning. How are you doing fine? Yeah, it is fine.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
I got a question, And I apologize if somebody has
hit on this the past week or so, but I
couldn't get to the podcast to catch up with it.
But I'm installing a new mail box this fall, treated
southern pine, and I thought I heard about a week
or two ago somebody commented on a deck situation where
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most recently they are not putting the treated lumber out there.
I guess in the manufacturing it's not quite what it
used to be decades ago, Like it's not baked in
as well or saturated as much. So I'm kind of
worried about letting this go. You used to, they used
to say, let it season before you do anything with it,
stain it or peanut But is it okay? I want
(28:25):
to I want to paint it. I want to pean
it white. Do I do it now at the installation
or let it I'm afraid to let it sit through
the one.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, I hear it, and and there's some concern to that.
There is some concern that it's a valid concern. So
I don't want you to paint it because it's gonna
peel right off. There's still enoughing there pretty much.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
You want to pick it up. Yeah, it's nice. It
was nice and heavy, so I know there's something in there.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah yeah, if so, so the process will be. What
makes pressure treated wood vulnerable is when the wood cracks.
So when it dries out, it shrinks, and it dries
out faster in the summertime because the UV rays of
(29:12):
the sun right it's intense, and that wood shrinks and
it cracks, and the pressure treatment is probably I don't know,
an eight eighth of an inch, quarter of an inch,
three sixteenths of an inch just doesn't go down very
far into the wood, and when that cracks, that center
(29:33):
of that crack is not pressure treated. Okay, so and
it's gonna hold water. So the real thing is to
keep that from cracking, I guess is the best way
to do it. But you can't paint it because there's
(29:56):
too much water. It's going to be pulled up, that
paint's going to appeal and it's still going to crack.
So painting is not an answer. How long has that
been up at this point.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
I haven't put it, I haven't installed it yet.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Okay. One of the things you might be able to
do is still get a protection on there, and the
semi transparent stains, which can then be covered up with
a solid color stain or pain, will offer sunlight protection
(30:31):
to that wood. But it has to penetrate into the
wood too. It's not a coating, it's a penetrate. So
that wood's got to be dry, but it doesn't have
to be as dry as it would have to be
if it were solid color stain. If you're following all that,
so if we're and we're also going to a point
(30:54):
where that sun is not as intense now, right, so
it's less likely to crack from the sun in the
months November through March or through February for sure. So
maybe you put it up and then next March put
like a clear semi transparent stain on there, like a
(31:20):
super deck that has some UV protection in if you
want to put a darker color on there, like a
chocolate brown, is going to have better UV protection, And
by next March you could get that to give it
protection and then paint it next September. Okay, So kind
(31:43):
of a kind of like mother Nature will protect it
for the first three or four months because the sun
will below in the sky, it won't be as intense.
Then are semi transparent will be able to penetrate. It'll
give it protection to the summer months, and then paint
it next year. It'll be dried out.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
At that point. At that point there won't be any
cooked because I really want to paint it white. It
doesn't matter at that point, since I've stealed at what
color it is when I decided to paint it, doesn't
That's correct, Okay, Okay, yeah, I was worried about that.
I've seen that a neighborhood closed the mind. Remember when
they built that development, they had a thing where all
the mailboxes there looked the same and they were all installed.
(32:22):
They are big mass of like six by six posts,
six by six arm a big mailbox and they were
white with a black mailbox and they were colored that installation.
I was like, how did they do that? Was so fast?
Like was this aged or were they produced and sitting somewhere.
And I really liked the look and that's what I
wanted to do. But yeah, I'm thinking, you just can't
(32:43):
paint that with it being so heavy satura.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
You really can't. And there I get horror stories all
the time on this show where somebody painted it, and
they especially on decks maybe not mailboxes, just put in
a deck, spent all this money and they put solid
color stain on it. The peel.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Kills right off.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
What what what's a recommended type? I'm sure it's not.
You can't be painting that late texts. It's outside on
that lumber.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Oh yeah, breeze. So you could use a you could
use a white solid color stain, or you could use
a good quality exterior paint. Once you waited that year
and it's got something to bite into, you're fine.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Okay, all right, okay, all right, well I clears up
a lot of it. I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
You're quite welcome, Thank you. All right, Uh, let's take
a little break. We'll come back. We got Richard if
you'd like to join us. It's eight hundred eighty two
three eight two five five year at home with Gary
Salvan right here on fifty five. Care see the talk station.
All right, back at it we go, twelve fifty two.
(33:53):
That is the time, and we're talking a little home improvement.
A reminder, back at it tomorrow morning, nine to noon.
No on Sundays, we should be here with any kind
of look at all. All right, let's talk to Richard. Richard.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
Welcome, Hi Gary, Thanks thanks for having this show. This
is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
I got a question about cutting marble. Okay, not the
poors and laminate tiles or anything like that, but solid marble.
Uh what kind of blade? And do rental shops have
the kind of blade that I need?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah? They do, they do. Of course. The best thing
when cutting marble would be like a wet saw.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
Oh yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Mean that's the best. But after that, a circular saw
or an angle grinder and a diamond cut blade. Okay
are these tiles? Is that what they are? Yes?
Speaker 7 (34:56):
Yes, I'm a father of a dog who has a
ten year old house and redoing their shower that was leaking. Okay,
So I'm replacing some tile, okay, And I've got the
cement backboard and everything like that, and I've got all
(35:17):
that time, and unfortunately the replacement tile is not the
porcelain laminate. It's the solid marble.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Okay, Okay, Well to answer your question, yes, yeah, I
was a circular saw with a diamond cut blade. They'll
have the blades there and everything. That would be the
way i'd go.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
Okay, if if the blade on some of them that
I've called up said they'll cut porcelain and they're supposed
to be diamond tip blades, is.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
That I don't know if there's a difference between the
two or not. To be honest with you, I would
assume that that would be the same kind of blade.
Speaker 7 (36:06):
Uh. Yeah, I would think so, because no one's going
to have a solid diamond it's blade. It's going to
be just a diamond tipical.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, it's yeah. I mean I literally would say a
diamond blade, you know. I mean, I don't know if
I need to go any deeper than that. I'm cutting
marble and your diamond blade and you know the circular
salt for that, and go for it.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
Yeah, okay, okay, all right, excellent, Thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Welcome.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
All right, let me know how you make out, Richard.
I appreciate the call. Thank you. All right. Well, that's
we've covered the gamut today, there's no question about it. Yeah,
I'm still troubled by a couple the calls today. You know,
(36:57):
I'm like everybody else, you know, there are projects that
I just don't want to get involved in. It's either
going to be physically too demanding for where I am
in life, or it's going to be too complicated. And
I will and I understand that frustration. And it's your house.
(37:21):
You can do whatever you want in your house. I
don't try to make a project any more difficult than
it is, and I try to be as honest as
I can when it comes to the results that you're
trying to accomplish, but always kind of think of this
(37:42):
source of the problem. Here's a story. I had my
fall checking for my furnace, and there's a furnace that
does the upstairs bedroom that's in an attic, and twenty
(38:04):
five years ago you could use a high efficiency furnace
in an attic, and the code today is you should not.
But I like my high efficiency furnace, right, and that's
what I want. Well, we can do that. There's some
precautions you have to do. You're not new construction or
(38:25):
anything like that. And I was asking questions just like
you would be doing. I knew what I wanted, and
they're explaining to me about why you don't want that.
And the reason is there's a water pipe inside this
and if you were out of the house for a
week and that thing got really cold, it could break
(38:46):
and then you'd have water dripping down. And I'm thinking, like,
you know that that's not going to happen, but it could.
It could. The moral of the thing is, we're all
kind of have to make that decision, right. I wanted
that high efficiency up there, but we don't use those
(39:07):
bedrooms like we used to, and it's not as important
as it used to be to be high efficiency. And
sometimes we're gone and maybe for a few days, and
I didn't want to take that risk, and I made
a decision not to put a high efficiency furnace up there,
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And so all I can do when you have questions
like that is to challenge you to make a decision
at your house. Do whatever you want, but you know,
you got to consider safety. You've got to consider if
it isn't going to perform what you wanted to do,
how much damage can it, you know, cause and we're
(39:51):
all faced with decisions like that. So I try not
to be uh pushy about it, but I am going
to tell you, well, you know it says not to
and here's why. All right, enough of that, Danny boy,
thank you very much, Sorry folks about the cold. And
we called through four hours and the Good Lord willing,
(40:13):
we'll be back tomorrow for more At Home with Gary
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